/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4559319]

Alright, this book totally sucks. It doesn't explain how to draw squat. I was going into this expecting an explanation on how to compose anatomy, body parts and expressions. It is an utter brick wall for tutorials. Please give me something to ease the pain.

[Anonymous No.4559324]

>>4559319

[Anonymous No.4559326]

[Anonymous No.4559328]

>>4559319
what are you talking about, its great

[Anonymous No.4559338]

Loomis's books are in major part absolute word vomit and alphabet soup, so here is my straightforward, boiled down advice. I don't really care if this is "wrong" or "right" or whatever, it's just what I did

Fuck that book. Learn to draw volume and simple perspective. Study the head, ribcage, and pelvis. Draw them as simple volumes/forms. Connect them through a gesture line for the spine. Simplify the arms and legs into tapering, segmented tubes. Copy a bunch of photos of people in different poses. From there, start learning actual anatomy, muscles, more detailed features and forms proportions, etc. Try to keep it loose and quick.

[Anonymous No.4559340]

>what are you talking about, its great
Maybe for people who are already advanced. I just got destroyed.

[Anonymous No.4559346]

It was my first book and it was the thing that really made me confident that I could learn drawing. I've literally never heard anyone shit on Loomis before ic

[Anonymous No.4559348]

>>4559346
the average d/ic/k is too stupid to read and too lazy to try and so they go full fox and grapes with loomis and pretend hes a meme.

[Anonymous No.4559357]

>>4559319
>he think he can learn art by reading
Just copy every plate, and then draw them from memory

[Anonymous No.4559358]

>>4559348
I am too stupid and lazy to read Loomis's books, but I won't pretend he's a meme. For some people they work, for some they don't. My attention span is minuscule and can't really even make myself sit through and read all that stuff, so I just do like I described in >>4559338. It's worked alright so far.
The most important thing is actual improvement. It doesn't really matter how you get there, there's lots and lots and lots of ways to learn and grow in art. Loomis is but one of many avenues we can take. If it works, it works, right? No disrespect to those who like and learned from his stuff.

[Anonymous No.4559359]

>>4559319
Maybe try going back to school and passing the fourth grade this time.

Loomis isn't even remotely difficult to read, the problem is you, and your lack of literacy.

[Anonymous No.4559370]

>>4559346
What exactly made you confident? Personally it really intimidated me.

[Anonymous No.4559392]

>>4559370
His opening chat was the thing that really hooked me, and the fact that I only had snake-oil Markcrilley tutorials before that. I found Hampton and Vilppu quickly after that so Loomis wasn't the only guy I learned from, but I never discounted him as a bad resource to learn from. No one resource will teach you everything.

[Anonymous No.4559660]

Unironically watch Proko tutorials, he explains figure drawing better in several minutes than most of "teachers" in hundreds of pages

[Anonymous No.4559680]

>>4559319
Loomis isn't for begs

[Anonymous No.4559907]

>>4559357
This is it. This is how you learn to draw, that's all there is to it. It's actually really fucking simple, but people come up with all these weird rituals and theories to try and make it more complicated than it needs to be.

[Anonymous No.4560010]

>>4559680
I think this is the thing, he was talking to people that probably had a high level of drawing experience under their belt by the time the decided to focus of figure drawing for illustration career purposes.
There is none of this choose the right pencil and how to sharpen it, he expects to know what you are doing and how to handle the materials by lots of mileage already.
Loomis; not for beginners.

[Anonymous No.4560023]

>>4559392
This.
Do any of you morons actually read the damn thing?
Pic related is from the first few pages of OPs book

[Anonymous No.4560027]

>>4559392
This. Do any of you morons actually read what Loomis says

[Anonymous No.4560035]

>>4559319
are you that programming faggot?

[Anonymous No.4560036]

>>4560035
No, that's probably me that you're talking about. But I agree with OP that Loomis's books have not been very useful for me.

[Anonymous No.4560039]

>>4559358
>Loomis is but one of many avenues we can take

Yeah anon. One of many. haha...

[Anonymous No.4560044]

>>4559340
>>4559319
> give me something to ease the pain
what pain, it's a book. do the fucking exercises/plates. read what the man says.
or are you just looking for attention?

[Anonymous No.4560046]

>>4560044
What fucking exercises?
>draw your own figures now!
Gee thanks, great exercise, really builds my confidence.

[Anonymous No.4560052]

>>4560046
im not that anon but maybe you should go to someplace like Calarts. Its more your ''speed''

[Anonymous No.4560055]

>>4560052
Whatever. I know that 90% of people on this board don't even draw and/or are actively crabbing so I shouldn't pay much attention to anything I read here. It would be nice if there were actually good educational materials to teach you how to draw, but I guess that's just not the world we live in.

[Anonymous No.4560064]

>>4560055
>I know that 90% of people on this board don't even draw
>has attenion span of a goldfish that doesnt allow him to even read loomis
kek, the irony

[Anonymous No.4560068]

>>4559319
try bridgman
https://www.scott-eaton.com/outgoing/books/George-Bridgman-Constructive-Anatomy.pdf

[Anonymous No.4560778]

>>4560039
No, I meant just in general, he's one of many sources of information. Basically everything you learn about art is the same, anyway, the only real difference is where and how you learned it. You can only really go up, so long as you keep practicing mindfully and seeking information and new ideas. Just so happens I'm no good with reading books to learn, I'd rather learn by seeing and practicing. As long as it works.

[Anonymous No.4560803]

>how to draw hooman
>draw stick and boxes
>now draw the rest of hooman with all its correct propotions and muscle placement

[Anonymous No.4563170]

>>4560027
tl;dr ...?

[Anonymous No.4563239]

>>4560027
>that red line
Oooh is this what Vilppu meant

[Anonymous No.4564284]

>>4559338
not trying to argue or anything but can you post your work?

[Anonymous No.4564330]

>>4560803
>hooman

you have to go back

[Anonymous No.4564378]

>>4559319
Read Jack Hamm's Drawing the Head and Figure.

[Anonymous No.4564507]

>>4559319
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4564559]

>>4559346
Nobody talked about Loomis at all before /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4564561]

Just watch the gesture and anatomy series of proko in youtube

[Anonymous No.4564569]

>>4560039
Mannequinization was developed by Beaux Arts teachers in the 1800's and taught to Loomis by Bridgman who learned it from Gerome.

Everyone teaches this shit slightly different and desu Buscema's stickman is better to start with, while Hogarth's better for advanced /ints/.

[Anonymous No.4565164]

>>4559338
A very logical way to go about learning to draw pretty much anything right there.

[Anonymous No.4566596]

>>4559319
Use the book and video threads here on the subjects you have trouble with. Look up specific books and courses dealing with those subjects. Loomis is a primer and a meme, not a cure-all.