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[Anonymous No.4553552]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4551239

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

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[Anonymous No.4553574]

Gentlemen, a statement before we begin:

FUCK /INT/FAGS
FUCK DUNNIES
FUCK JANNIES
AND FUCK ARNOLD

[Anonymous No.4553580]

>>4553574
based

[Anonymous No.4553581]

>>4551233
no, it's about movement and "intention" of the movement, if that makes sense. It's more exaggerated

[Anonymous No.4553582]

what does /ic/ mean when you call someone a crab?

[Anonymous No.4553583]

>>4553582
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

[Anonymous No.4553585]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.4553586]

>>4553574

[Anonymous No.4553588]

>>4553583
but how does that manifest here? people giving bad advice based on their own practices?

[Anonymous No.4553590]

>>4553574
he said what we were all thinking

[Anonymous No.4553591]

Consider conduct studies on the following because why the fuck not.

[Anonymous No.4553593]

>>4553583
But what do we call self-aware crabs that perpetuate the cycle?

[Anonymous No.4553594]

>>4553591

[Anonymous No.4553595]

>>4553594

[Anonymous No.4553597]

>>4553595

[Anonymous No.4553599]

>>4553574
Ahh, fpbp at once

[Anonymous No.4553600]

>>4553597

[Anonymous No.4553601]

>>4553600

[Anonymous No.4553603]

>>4553552
>Picresize
Nigga just put your image in the mc paint and change the size

[Anonymous No.4553604]

>>4553588
people jealous of other people succeeding, and thus trying to bring everyone else down with them

[Anonymous No.4553607]

>>4553588
A few different ways.
Sometimes crabbing can be as simple as being angry that someone is better than you or progressing faster than you, and then lashing out.
Another form of crabbing is intentionally giving people bad advice to try and stunt their growth. This one is kinda hard to do though, because no matter what advice you think is bad advice, someone else will unironically believe that it's good advice and that it's exactly the advice that should be given to /beg/s.

[Anonymous No.4553608]

>>4553604
ahh, I get it. /vg/agdg has a terminal pandemic of that disease

[Anonymous No.4553622]

>>4553574
No crits for you then ;^)
t. /int/fag

[Anonymous No.4553624]

>>4553603
>Nearest Neighbour resizing
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.4553629]

>>4553591
I fucked up one eye sorry

[Anonymous No.4553640]

>>4553574
BASED

[Anonymous No.4553641]

How do I draw like pic related and make it look good?

[Anonymous No.4553644]

Bouguereau study

[Anonymous No.4553650]

>>4553629

[Anonymous No.4553661]

reposting here for critique since I came in at the end of the last thread.

Any tips regarding how to draw hair? I tried different shitty methods and they're all pretty time consuming.

[Anonymous No.4553669]

>>4553644
looks nice anon

[Anonymous No.4553671]

>>4553661
It's hard to criticize that drawing because it's a very timid type of thing, drawing a photo reference with thin lines and no coloring. it's decent IMO, but there's not much to say. you should try to get out of your comfort zone and push further. if you want to stay in the observation area, try coloring something or making a value study or a full body figure

[Anonymous No.4553688]

>>4553671
Cheers man, I absolutely suck at colouring. Any resources I could use? I just started drawing recently and i've picked up Drawing on the right side of the brain and Keys to drawing. I've also started drawing boxes and used Loomis for the construction of this one, but so far none of them talked about shading and colouring.

[Anonymous No.4553705]

Red line it please. It feels off as fuck and I dont wanna finish it unless the body is good.

[Anonymous No.4553712]

>>4553641
Pull of a picasso id imagine

[Anonymous No.4553715]

>>4553705
Did you use a ref?

[Anonymous No.4553721]

Gesture only tho.

[Anonymous No.4553723]

>>4553721
>>4553715

[Anonymous No.4553726]

>>4553721
how does she have so little ass

[Anonymous No.4553728]

>>4553726
I liked the pose but I need more ass and more tits in my life senpai.

[Anonymous No.4553732]

>>4553726
That's the best type desu, a firm petite butt are the choice of connoisseurs.

[Anonymous No.4553762]

>>4552956
Damn, it's been 6 hours and only now am I noticing other glaring issues with this.

[Anonymous No.4553764]

>>4553644
her forehead is too short
Also resize your pics

[Anonymous No.4553791]

Why yes I draw Loomis. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.4553801]

Why yes, I draw Loomis. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.4553808]

>>4553801
because your head is so big your body is invisible.

[Anonymous No.4553812]

>>4553552
cute rat

[Anonymous No.4553822]

>>4553726
That's white "women" for ya

[Anonymous No.4553856]

>>4553661
Bottom of the face looks slightly stretched. Based on your reference, the distance from the nose to the chin should be about the same as the nose to the lid of his left eye.

[Anonymous No.4553873]

>>4553822
This is an /int/elligent take

[Anonymous No.4553877]

>>4553594
Just fuck my shit up, senpai

[Anonymous No.4553906]

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself but I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around perspective and vanishing points. I understand how buildings fit into perspective, but I guess I get confused when it comes to organic forms that are made up of a bunch of objects, I know you can put the objects in boxs to help visualize it but;

does each object then have its own set of vanishing points?
like say an animal is made of multiple "boxes",
do each of those boxes have their own vanishing points? because I can't really wrap my head around how to draw intersecting objects where one is rotated naturally and keep it in perspective, I just keep drawing weird buildings or a complete mess(pic related)

maybe I'm just /beg/ and I learn this stuff later, I was just trying to experiment, I'm still getting used to thinking in 3d space (and drawing boxes obviously) so I don't even know how to word the question I want to ask, thanks if anyone understands what I'm trying to say

[Anonymous No.4553914]

>>4553906
>does each object then have its own set of vanishing points?
If you have two boxes and one is rotated at a different angle, then yes, it would have its own set of vanishing points. When lines are perfectly parallel, they go to the same VP.

[Anonymous No.4553927]

>>4553906
Each group of parallel lines has its own vanishing point. So when you draw something from reality like a landscape, you basically have infinite vanishing points. What you do is you pay attention to the VPs that seem most important and ignore the rest. Your perspective won't be perfect but people won't notice either

[Anonymous No.4553968]

>>4553650
>>4553877
Nice attempt lads but it's full of symbol drawing
Check this image out >>4553585 in order for you to avoid it

[Anonymous No.4553976]

do you all have pirated photoshop?

[Anonymous No.4553987]

>>4553968
Thanks, I'll give it a try

[Anonymous No.4554014]

Decided to use some old copic pens for a few days just to vary things up

[Anonymous No.4554028]

>>4554014
I like the hair but the big face shadow looks off

[Anonymous No.4554041]

>>4554028
yea, completely fucked that up

[Anonymous No.4554049]

>>4553976
I bought it legally because I'm not poor

[Anonymous No.4554050]

charcoal is harder to get dark darks idk why. Got lazy at the end

[Anonymous No.4554052]

>>4554050
What? Charcoal can give you the darkest darks easily, but for graphite it's literally impossible.

[Anonymous No.4554058]

>>4554049
it's 30 dollars a month or something ,their system is 100% retarded

[Anonymous No.4554060]

>>4554052
guess im just not used to it yet or using enough pressure idk, /beg/ hell is rough

[Anonymous No.4554073]

>>4553585
Am I symbol drawing ?
I think the line work is pretty sloppy
> Is there any guide on sketching?

[Anonymous No.4554131]

[Anonymous No.4554132]

>>4554131
nice

[Anonymous No.4554146]

Would redrawing every panel of jojo's bizzare adventure starting from part 1 onward be a good way to learn?

[Anonymous No.4554154]

>>4554146
If you somehow have the balls to do it then go

[Anonymous No.4554155]

>>4554146
it'd be a good way to learn how to redraw every panel of jojo's bizzare adventure starting from part 1 onward

[Anonymous No.4554165]

uh

[Anonymous No.4554169]

>>4554155
Would that have transferable skills to drawing other things?

[Anonymous No.4554172]

>>4554169
Lol no

[Anonymous No.4554173]

>>4554165
You did a pretty good job man

[Anonymous No.4554174]

>>4554146
>I'll just dedicate ten years of my life to this

>>4554169
You'd be pretty good at drawing panels of JoJo

[Anonymous No.4554176]

>>4554169
Nah dude nobody ever got better at drawing by drawing things. Talent Is Real.

[Anonymous No.4554178]

>>4554165
Amazing work Anon but why did you infiltrated /beg/? I hope this motivates people in this thread

[Anonymous No.4554183]

>>4554169
i think if you want to draw other things you should just go ahead and do it instead of redrawing all of jojo

[Anonymous No.4554191]

>>4554183
Because I like araki's art style so I thought I'd shamelessly steal it like he did with FoTNS until I can branch out and make my own style.

And by "other things" I mean Jojo fanart and other characters in the style of Jojo.

I like jojo.

[Anonymous No.4554195]

>>4554146
Will you deliver ?

[Anonymous No.4554198]

>>4554178
wtf guys
it not compete picasso and and I can get shapes somewhat close but it muddy mess and all kind of wrong. I can't even draw propertly.

[Anonymous No.4554212]

>>4554191
if you are obsessed with araki's art then yes its a good idea to go copy his art.
also look at his processes, find out what fashion magazines and sculptures he uses as reference, get extra insight from his interviews and make yourself more araki than araki himself

[Anonymous No.4554227]

I never had so much fun with my pencil before you guys

[Anonymous No.4554234]

I wonder what Loomis' voice sounded like. I wish there were some recordings of him because it would be very inspiring to see him for real.

[Anonymous No.4554236]

>>4553976
nah I got it for free by applying to some shit in my college, just had to answer a survey, fill some stuff, and alas I have free photoshop for the next 4 years.

[Anonymous No.4554242]

>>4554227
Good job man!

>>4554234
I imagine it being goofy for some reason

[Anonymous No.4554248]

>Japanese mangakas keep saying how they learned by redrawing pannels of their favorite manga
>Some of them barely touched fundies and if they did it was just to refine their style
>/asg/ keeps dabbing on fundies cultists again and again
>/beg/ now told someone that actually found the true way to making it to fuck off and draw loomoos so he can keep being a beg and probably evolve to a crab

[Anonymous No.4554249]

>>4553641
pick your fav wally wood pic
try to copy it within a time limit of 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.4554252]

>>4553726
"she"

[Anonymous No.4554257]

>>4554248
If one want to grind dundies he go to /beg/ if he want copy manga he go to /asg/.

[Anonymous No.4554258]

>>4554248
Not even a fundie extremist (because I'm lazy), but this is a pretty weird cope. Copying and "self-learning" or whatever you want to call it is still just practice and it depends on your talent, intelligence and time.

[Anonymous No.4554262]

what do you guys think of my progress

[Anonymous No.4554270]

here's another example. i drew this in mid march

[Anonymous No.4554273]

and i drew this a couple of days ago

[Anonymous No.4554278]

>>4554262
looks okay (you're growing deeper into style and that might stunt your growth eventually) but why are they so depressed are you okay anon

[Anonymous No.4554281]

>>4554262
right reminds me of Parappa

[Anonymous No.4554285]

>>4554278
>are you okay anon
no

[Anonymous No.4554299]

>>4554198
It's just an exercise la you're not supposed to be competing with anybody, just try to follow the instructions given in this image >>4553585

[Anonymous No.4554309]

>>4554262
gmi

[Anonymous No.4554315]

>>4554309
what does gmi mean

[Anonymous No.4554335]

>>4554299
>competing
take me a moment to figure out what this supposed to mean.
> it not compLete picasso.
like eyes is about on the same level

Otherwise have no idea what you talkin about,

[Anonymous No.4554350]

>>4553595
I gave the glasses man a try. Where did I go wrong?

[Anonymous No.4554355]

>>4554350
is that heinrich himmler

[Anonymous No.4554359]

>>4554315
gonna make it

[Anonymous No.4554362]

why does proko say to not do the contour then proceed to do almost exclusivelt the contour? Gesture has never clicked for me because it always looks like im doing shitty contours but turns out that's what he does?

[Anonymous No.4554364]

>>4554355
Who?

[Anonymous No.4554370]

>>4554350
You did a good job anon, but i feel he looks like he was made for yaoi

>>4554355
>>4554364
Heinrich Himmler more like Heinrich Hammanah Hammanah Hammanah Oooga

[Anonymous No.4554374]

>>4554359
thanks fren

[Anonymous No.4554377]

>>4554350
He looks like an idonesian teacher. The glasses make the eyes look smaller.

[Anonymous No.4554390]

>>4554370
>>4554377
Thanks for the feedback lads, I guess I built him for the big asian cock

[Anonymous No.4554407]

>>4554146
some Anon actually did something like that in /asg/ but he did it for Fishine's bitch faces.

[Anonymous No.4554415]

>>4554248
It is because a manga (like every comic book) is a A STORY first and foremost. If the story is good enough the Mangaka will get at least 1 assistant that can actually draw so the Mangaka only need to draw the drafts. If the manga gains traction more assistants will be hired so that the quality can be better.

For the last fucking time MANGA IS NOT ABOUT ART, IT IS ABOUT THE STORY!

[Anonymous No.4554417]

>>4554415
I like draft more.

[Anonymous No.4554418]

[Anonymous No.4554420]

>>4554415
Why don't people just read novels?>>4554417
I think you are retarded.

[Anonymous No.4554423]

>>4554178
There should be a new rule in the OP.
>If you can't post outside of /beg/ without consistently being told to go back to /beg/, then you're incapable of judging what doesn't belong in /beg/.
I know it's not perfect but at least it would stop the incessant "you don't belong here" comments about mid and high tier beg-drawings by people who don't know anything.

>>4554165
Disclaimer I mostly have the same problems as you do, so this is coming from someone who's also trying to work this stuff out.
Your value range is pretty good but imo the light side isn't light enough.
Mostly what you could improve on is brushwork.
As in the appropriate use of low and high opacity brushes and working with an appropriate brush size.
There's small visible brushmarks all over the face, you could eventually blend them out but from what I've been able to find people recommend working with a brush that's as large as possible for any given task.

>>4554362
That's exactly why I think prokos approach to gesture is bad for beginners, it's too easily mistaken for simplified contour drawing.
Tbf his explanation is actually pretty good it's just his application that's not really that helpful.
Have a look at how a bunch of different people approach the subject, the tim gula vids on prokos channel arn't bad but the goto guy for gesture is definitely vilppu.

[Anonymous No.4554425]

after staring at this for hours, i can't find anything that i can change that doesn't fuck the whole thing up

[Anonymous No.4554430]

>>4554420
Because believe it or not people like reading stories with visuals. Even if they're bad ex. One Pan Man

[Anonymous No.4554439]

>>4554430
So you admit that people do like the art in manga. Mangakas do take fride in the work and try to improve them. I will not buy One Pan Man but will One Punch Man.

[Anonymous No.4554443]

>>4553552
Studying scott robertson for drawing loli hentai

[Anonymous No.4554457]

>>4554439
Anon, you're not getting it
The art might be ass, but it gives the story greater impact than just reading words

[Anonymous No.4554460]

>>4554423
>I actually followed proko
Holy shit no wonder people here told me my gestures looked like straight ass. I got prokucked

[Anonymous No.4554462]

>>4554418
I like it. Is this your OC?

[Anonymous No.4554470]

>>4554425
Leave it as is. Too late to start fixing stuff now, without a lot of extra work.
Anyways, good work anon.

[Anonymous No.4554480]

I like picture and concept but what bother me is it like dark blue square with one small line. maybe it is just my notebook. It supposed to be flat shaded but I think it lack value contrast. What I did is what first come to mind but not mean its good.

[Anonymous No.4554489]

>>4554262
you went full cope. There's no way out of this.

[Anonymous No.4554491]

>>4554489
what does that even mean

[Anonymous No.4554492]

>>4554480
Holy shit, what a huge improvement imo

[Anonymous No.4554495]

>>4554462
Nah, just some random imagination shit. I liked his look though, maybe I should do more of him

[Anonymous No.4554497]

>>4554470
thanks!

>>4554480
here's the original version, i kinda struggled with shading

[Anonymous No.4554499]

Figure study

[Anonymous No.4554518]

>>4554420
>Why don't people just read novels?
Because that requires imagination.
>So you admit that people do like the art in manga.
Yes but art is still secondary nature. There are numerous examples for both manga and western comics with shit tier art being successful.

And besides this whole question was originally about the Mangakas and their art abilities. Despite popular belief usually the mangaka himself is NOT the main source of the art, at least not today anymore, save for the rough drafts. The assistant or group of assistants are the ones that do the actual drawing.

[Anonymous No.4554527]

>>4554499
looks good post ref pls

[Anonymous No.4554539]

>>4554457
New anon here. I think well written prose can and almost always will have better impact then poor art. I just don't understand the justification for bad art when it's doing a disservice to the story which is apparently the most important part for you.
>>4554415
Honestly this is a perfect example. The overbearing perspective in the first panel of the draft is far more interesting then the bland finished version. The draft isn't great but the final version is just so much duller in comparison. Absolutely no narrative being told through the finished panel.

[Anonymous No.4554610]

Been going through Proko's anatomy lessons. I'm still having some issues with getting the right position of a object in 3d space.

[Anonymous No.4554611]

>>4554610
another one

[Anonymous No.4554621]

some poses from imagination I did earlier this year

[Anonymous No.4554647]

how do i learn how to draw the head

[Anonymous No.4554648]

how do u guys enjoy consistantly churning out shitty drawings? Its getting down

[Anonymous No.4554650]

>>4554621
lovin that sense of movement and scale. work on cleaning up those lines a little bit though-- the "sketchy" look is indicative of low confidence line work. Just move the pen with a little more oomph and you'll get cleaner crisper line work. If you dont get a perfect line in the first go just ctrl-z and try again. You've already proven you understand scale really well so you'll get the right line eventually and then you'll get better at getting the line first try.

TL;DR: You're sick af just be bold with lines.

[Anonymous No.4554659]

>>4553585
I am starting to get rid of my symbol drawing, but the more I practice and the less I feel this will help me to draw from imagination. Like, OK, I will know how to copy something by breaking down everything into shapes. But how do I convert this into something that will help me to conjure those shapes from scratch? Is this nothing but technical practice?

[Anonymous No.4554663]

>>4554362
Same reason why he can't draw from imagination. He's trained too hard in the "draw what you see" style, his muscle memory doesn't follow his brain.

[Anonymous No.4554682]

started lurking this board for the past few days and got motivated to start drawing again. thanks you guys.

[Anonymous No.4554691]

>>4554131
im going to use this to train eye drawing

[Anonymous No.4554693]

>>4554682
thats some nice looking hair

any tips on learning how to do it?

[Anonymous No.4554729]

Can somebody help me out.
I'm told my hands on my loli bodies are small. I normally make them slightly longer than half of the forearm. Should instead I make them based on the size of the face instead?
They'd look huge compared to her forearms.

[Anonymous No.4554747]

Anyone got a cracked clip studio link for mac? I found an old version but it's really buggy

[Anonymous No.4554752]

>haven't improve in over a year
should I give up?

[Anonymous No.4554791]

>>4554650
Danke, I've been gong through Drawabox and I think my line quality has been getting better

[Anonymous No.4554802]

I still have no real idea on what symbol drawing is. Is it just "draw eye" now "draw nose" then "draw mouth"? Like each thing is it's own entity instead of each line being it's own entity?

[Anonymous No.4554805]

Oh god I'm FUCKING DRAWING
AAAAAAAAAAA I'M GONNA DRAAAAAAWWWW

[Anonymous No.4554830]

>>4554443
Are you Korean by any chance

[Anonymous No.4554854]

>>4554648
By being proud of the work I've done, even if the end result is shitty. It's about practice and improving not creating a good final picture, because you can never get to a good result without churning out shit.

If you draw daily, and ensure you focus on and improve one piece of the puzzle, in 100 days you will have 100 shitty drawings BUT you will have improved 100 pieces of the puzzle.

That's the healthy mentality and attitude towards learning any craft.

[Anonymous No.4554858]

>>4554802
Symbol drawing can mean many things.

When drawing realistically from life it means that you're drawing what you think is there instead of what's actually there. You're missing a lot of the details.

When drawing from memory it means you're either drawing too flat, or you're missing detail.

Like this: >>4553585

Note that the idea relates more to realistic drawing than cartoony or heavily stylised stuff. For those, if people say you're symbol drawing you can tell them to go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.4554862]

[Anonymous No.4554875]

>>4554802
Symbol drawing, as i define it, is a lack of understanding of form and the inability to draw something as it is, instead of how your brain perceives and categorizes it. Instead of drawing the eye as a complex 3d form rotated in space, almost like a rendered model, you end up drawing it as it's surface level appearance, its symbol. An apple as a circle with a line at the top. An eye as an almond with a circle in the middle and straight lines jutting out from the top and bottom. Whenever you start associating a shape as the way to draw that thing then you've assigned a symbol to that object and stopped seeing the 3d form.

[Anonymous No.4554883]

i feel like i messed up somewhere

[Anonymous No.4554884]

>>4554729
pedo

[Anonymous No.4554885]

>>4554862
what wuz ur reference

[Anonymous No.4554892]

>>4554802
Symbol drawing is a meme

Don't worry about making your art "not symbols", worry about making it look good.

[Anonymous No.4554895]

>>4554885

[Anonymous No.4554904]

>>4554895
c-cute

[Anonymous No.4554905]

>>4554362
That's not contour.

[Anonymous No.4554906]

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE I GIVE UP EVERYTHING I DRAW FOR YEARS NOW IS PURE SHIT FUCK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4554913]

Could you please give me criticism so I can improve

Also I've been drawing for almost 4 months now, is this good progress or should I be further along by now

[Anonymous No.4554912]

>>4554906
PYW and stop baby raging.

[Anonymous No.4554914]

>>4554913
Sorry for the size, a bit smaller

[Anonymous No.4554915]

>>4554914
looks nice desu

[Anonymous No.4554918]

>>4554906
Was it autism

[Anonymous No.4554929]

>>4554914
I like it but the muscles do not very appealing for me.

[/beg/ No.4554935]

>>4554914
I will call you anatomy-curious.

biggest challenge you need to overcome is to decouple from paper surface and explore space.

[Anonymous No.4554944]

[Anonymous No.4554955]

>>4554915
Thank man

>>4554929
Do you know why you don't like the muscles? I felt like I was just winging the rendering. I don't really know how to do hatching

>>4554935
>anatomy-curious.
what do you mean
>biggest challenge you need to overcome is to decouple from paper surface and explore space.
Do you mean that it looks flat? How to fix

[Anonymous No.4554956]

Drawing is supposed to be much easier when you can draw lines and shapes properly, but basically all of my lines and shapes look terrible. How long does it take for muscle memory to work?

[Anonymous No.4554960]

>>4554955
It's look like you draw raw muscle. I mean it lacks a layer of skin.

[/beg/ No.4554980]

>>4554955
>what do you mean
I mean you do not really know what is going on yet but you tried to get gist of it and looked at pictures/

[Anonymous No.4554983]

what would be the best course to follow n order to get better at colour/shading?

[Anonymous No.4554984]

[/beg/ No.4554995]

>>4554983
why top of stripes brighter then front of stripes but top of hat darker then front of the hat?

[Anonymous No.4554996]

>>4554146
go for t anon, i'll read it

[Anonymous No.4554999]

>>4554984
Cute!

[Anonymous No.4555004]

>>4554995
i was doing the head last so when i coloured in the front of the hat I couldn't be asked to pick a different lighter colour.

[Anonymous No.4555011]

>>4554956
I'd say 10 to 12 years, no biggie

[Anonymous No.4555012]

>>4554273
>>4554270
that's quite the noticeable improvement anon. Good on you

[Anonymous No.4555018]

>>4554234
>thinking that Loomis is a real person
lmao

[Anonymous No.4555031]

bored of feets. gonna study buts and legs for now

[Anonymous No.4555035]

>>4555018
What did you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4555037]

>>4555031
based. what about footwear?

[Anonymous No.4555041]

>>4554914
Not /beg/
>>4551064

[Anonymous No.4555058]

>>4554960
I see. I was actually keeping that in mind, but I guess I still overdid the definition of some parts

>>4554980
I looked at pictures for the part between the chest and the abs, and the stuff at the sides of the abs (serratus ribs etc). I still don't know what's going on there.

>>4555041
Idk if you're joking, but if you're serious, thank you

[Anonymous No.4555066]

>>4555035
Loomis is just a fictional character meant to inspire others, anon. He's no more real than Santa Claus, the easter bunny or the tooth fairy.

[Anonymous No.4555071]

>>4555035
Maymay.

[Anonymous No.4555074]

>>4555066
>>4555071
>>4555041
Allowing /beg/s to give critique/advice was a mistake

[Anonymous No.4555076]

Could i get some feedback
>>4554984
>>4554883

[Anonymous No.4555080]

>>4555076
Yes, draw older characters

[Anonymous No.4555098]

What do you lads think of Drawabox
I feel autistic doing those exercises and don't see how can they help me git gud

[Anonymous No.4555102]

>>4555058
One more crit/question anon. which one A or B ?

[Anonymous No.4555106]

>>4555031
When one does a study like this, do they draw from reference or imagination?

[Anonymous No.4555119]

>>4555102
I'm honestly not sure, i was kind of guessing. Those armpit muscles sometimes look like they go between the biceps and the triceps (pic related)

In some pictures it looks like it is the way I did it, and in others like you did it. What's the correct answer?

[Anonymous No.4555122]

>>4555119
See this and judge for your self.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-Nn73fUlU9k/maxresdefault.jpg
I gave you crit, now give mine. OK?
Does this picture >>4554073 look gay to you ? What make you think so ? I gave him a big chin and a scar, but he still looks pretty fruity too me.

[Anonymous No.4555124]

>>4554423
>goto guy for gesture is definitely vilppu.
What's your opinion on Micheal Hampton?

[Anonymous No.4555169]

>>4554073
Thanks for the crits.

Yeah he doesn't look too tough. I think it's several things. The eye area looks a bit girly because of the big eyelashes and girly brow, maybe consider giving him a bit more bone thickness right above the eyebrows and make the eyelashes smaller.

Also the profile is a bit girly too imo, to make him more manly id make the cheekbone a tiny bit smaller and id make the lower face a bit bigger. I wish i could redline this for you but i can only draw on paper.

[Anonymous No.4555181]

>>4555169
Thanks bro. No prob.

[Anonymous No.4555218]

I'm an early on art student right now. I want to draw digitally for my own private art, I bought a cheapo wacom tablet and have been playing with it, feels weird. A lot of the pen brushes feel too bold and bulky, is it just me not being used to this yet? It feels like all my lines are stiff and weird, well of course on top of me not even being slightly good at art yet.

[Anonymous No.4555219]

>>4555124
that that's not his name

[Anonymous No.4555242]

>>4555076
Ok
>>4554984 is cute and I like it
>>4554883 stop drawing FBI material

[Anonymous No.4555250]

>>4555122
you gave'em real pouty lips

[Anonymous No.4555259]

Should I finish it? This'll be the last completed work I'll draw in a while.

[Anonymous No.4555263]

>>4555259
Looking at the thumbnail, I'll answer myself and say no. It's unbelievable how different something looks when uploaded for the public to see.

[Anonymous No.4555265]

>>4555219
I meant *Michael Hampton. I fucked up his ae
Is he still good to learn from, I'm doing most of my learning from him. He's been pretty helpful

[Anonymous No.4555273]

Always feels like my messy ass sketches are way better than any attempt I make at doing lineart.

[Anonymous No.4555281]

>>4555259
>>4555263
Don't give up anon. I can see the attempt.

[/beg/ No.4555282]

>>4555259
legs have different length. feet and hands need more work.

[Anonymous No.4555291]

>>4555259
hands are really bad. stop drawing isolated fingers

[Anonymous No.4555297]

>>4555291
I've been told something along the lines of this yesterday, but I don't understand how fingers can be considered one shape as part of the hand.

[Anonymous No.4555305]

>>4555297
When fingers are touching or almost touching, as they often are, they can be thought of as one shape.

[Anonymous No.4555311]

Is it even possible to properly shade a drawing on printer paper using a shitty graphite pencil?

[Anonymous No.4555314]

>>4555311
looks really good if you ask me

[Anonymous No.4555320]

>>4555297
I'm /beg/ so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I used to draw hands finger by finger like you and I think my hands improved quite a bit once I started following that advice

first draw a mitten shape, then place the fingers using internal lines and shapes. unless the hand is very artificially spread out, fingers tend to follow a certain flow

[Anonymous No.4555323]

>>4555314
its not mine, I'm asking if it's possible to replicate this amount of detail on shitty A4 printer paper

[Anonymous No.4555324]

>>4555305
Thanks, I see what you mean. I'll work on this tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4555326]

>>4555311
Yep definitely. The problem is you, not your materials. I'm not saying that to be mean, rather it should be a relief that you're not missing out on any special tools or tricks. It's just a matter of you getting better.

[Anonymous No.4555332]

>>4555326

[/beg/ No.4555344]

>>4555332
>smooth
your shitty A4 printer paper is not shitty enough

[Anonymous No.4555353]

>>4554854
Thanks for this anon, this is some good advice. We all gotta be positive with one another while also giving each other valuable criticism. Like penguins huddling together when its freezing, we can all make it to /int/artica

>>4554682
Great job man

[Anonymous No.4555390]

>>4555332
Here I tried to do a sphere on printer paper, no blending or smudging. Obviously this isn't the limit to how smooth your shading can get on printer paper, someone above /beg/ could do a much better job.

[Anonymous No.4555401]

>drawing on paper

[Anonymous No.4555410]

>>4553856
Yep, proportions of the chin are off, noticed when you said it. Thanks my man

>>4553671
I spent most of my drawing time today shading this pic related. It's my first time doing it so be honest and harsh, how much does it suck? What should I do to improve?

[Anonymous No.4555412]

>>4555401
>already jumping to tablets

[Anonymous No.4555413]

>>4554862
>>4554895

Problem is, your Asuka now has the head/body ratio of a 5 year old. But with the design of a pre-adult.

Either make her childlike or think about proportion when you use a ref for a pose.

[Anonymous No.4555418]

>>4555412
>>4555401
Does it matter?
Most people can do both vice versa
Stop fighting and go study.

[Anonymous No.4555425]

>>4555412
>>4555418
I've only ever drawn on tablets, I got my first one in 2015 specifically to make pixel art. now I'm trying to learn "real" art but I'm already way more comfortable with the tablet than with messy pencils and pens

there's literally nothing wrong with starting with digital, it's a crab myth

[Anonymous No.4555443]

>>4553552
Another day, another loomies

[Anonymous No.4555457]

>>4555443
it's good but the mouth isn't following the 3D shape of the face

[Anonymous No.4555477]

>>4555457
Could you please show me anon?

[Anonymous No.4555479]

>>4555443
That's amazing Anon specially the mouth who follows the 3D shape of the face perfectly

[Anonymous No.4555480]

>>4555273
They're the same, it's just that the lineart exposes all your mistakes to you.

[Anonymous No.4555485]

>>4555477
>>4555443
nice stuff anon, keep going I believe in you

[Anonymous No.4555524]

>>4555485
Thank you anon

>>4555457
>>4555479
One liar, one truth teller

[Anonymous No.4555561]

How the fuck do you study loomis the right way?

[Anonymous No.4555566]

>>4555561
Just study! lol

[Anonymous No.4555571]

Just coom'd to my own hentai artwork that I made a month ago even though it looks pretty lame compared to my current skills. This feels like a really depressing low point.

[Anonymous No.4555574]

>>4555561
bee yourself

[Anonymous No.4555577]

guys i need help very badly
i dont understand how the fuck you are supposed to draw people in different perspectives
anyone here knows books that explain this for retards like me or have references of people in different angles that i could study?

[Anonymous No.4555589]

>>4555477
I'm too lazy and /beg/ to redline

but it's very good anyways, I was just nitpicking

[Anonymous No.4555630]

>>4555265
it's Steven actually Michael is his pseudonym or middle name or whatever, but he's really good yes

[Anonymous No.4555655]

[Anonymous No.4555661]

>>4555655
That's very nice anon, anatomical problems but some beautiful colors

[Anonymous No.4555667]

Hey there.

I'm trying WLOP's style again and posted in the last thread.
Here's my second attempt.

Is there anything I should improve, or does it look good so far?

[Anonymous No.4555674]

figure study

[Anonymous No.4555687]

>>4555577
Just take a picture of yourself for reference lol

[Anonymous No.4555688]

>>4555577
I'll help you.

If you're working on your own, I'd suggest trying out DesignDoll. Here's a related picture.

I suggest looking up nude model reference, using this program, looking on Pinterest, or just taking figures pictures of your own body in various angles to help with study.

[Anonymous No.4555704]

I feel pretty good about this

[Anonymous No.4555721]

>>4555655
I felt so good watching the soul in this

[Anonymous No.4555728]

Eye study/practice

[Anonymous No.4555739]

First drawing I did after reading Edwards' Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Thoughts? Total beginner.

[Anonymous No.4555743]

>>4555728
you didn't study anything here buddy, you just filled out a paper with symbols.

[Anonymous No.4555744]

>>4555688
thanks

[Anonymous No.4555748]

>>4555704
nice, foreshortening is hard

[Anonymous No.4555750]

>>4555743
anime eye study/practice

[Anonymous No.4555753]

>>4555739
You did a good job anon, keep it up!


Another Loomis down

[Anonymous No.4555765]

>>4555739
You did a good job anon, keep it up!

Another Loomis down, how accurate is it?

[Anonymous No.4555774]

>>4555765
>3.16 MB, 3264x1705

[Anonymous No.4555777]

It's embarrasing but this is probably my best painting
I think my values used to be too far apart, bringing them closer worked out for the better

[Anonymous No.4555782]

>>4555774
Yes

[Anonymous No.4555788]

>>4555782
Yikes

[Anonymous No.4555790]

>>4555788
Oof

[Anonymous No.4555802]

Why should I learn Loomis's construction methods if he never used them himself and only drew from reference

[Anonymous No.4555808]

Monday I was recommended to draw from reference, and to make better use of my tablet's pen pressure. Here's my drawing and my reference from today. Mainly focusing on shapes and anatomy right now but dabbled into shading a bit

[Anonymous No.4555816]

>>4555802
>he never used them himself and only drew from reference
That's a good one, it never cease to amaze me how /beg/s always come up with new ideas for them to not put in the necessary work

[Anonymous No.4555844]

>>4555808
keep grinding

[Anonymous No.4555861]

What’s a good drawing tablet with a screen between 300$ and 500$?

[Anonymous No.4555874]

>>4555861
No such thing

[Anonymous No.4555876]

>>4555861
I used to think I needed one with a screen too.
Don't worry about it, screenless is fine.

[Anonymous No.4555885]

>>4555876
I have one without a screen but it feels a bit wonky. It’s hard to connect where my pen is on the tablet to where it is on the screen

[Anonymous No.4555888]

>>4555861
just don't buy a small one, big tablet is better than small screen

[Anonymous No.4555893]

>>4555861
I have a Huion Kamvas 13 its great!
Though i bought it at launch so it was cheaper, id say to wait for a cheap huion screen tablet to launch.

[Anonymous No.4555944]

should I feel bad about the fact im regressing??
I finally found what I love drawing, shota, but I used to draw nothing but girls HUGE HUGE big tits and now looking at my old art, ITS SO MUCH BETTER
and my current art is bad like really bad but I love it a lot more and it feels more personal.

How do I stop this, and yesterday night I drew an anime girl and it was fun it was really good for me but I am unhappy with it because I feel like I am being forced to draw her, but I feel happy and free when I am drawing shota.

[Anonymous No.4555956]

>>4555944
You should draw art for you, not for other people.

when you're in the hospital and dying, are you really going to be thinking 'oh man, I really wish I had drawn more popular shit for likes on Twitter'?

Nah, I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.4555967]

>>4555956
No I used to love doing that stuff and it was before I started using twitter too, and I never posted my art on /jp/ for (you)s either.
I love touhou and I loved boobhus so I always drew those for myself
characters like Utsuho and Tewi I would draw constantly with big boobs for myself.

but Now I like shota a lot more....and now I only draw my bad shota ocs and they are a lot uglier.
I don't care about clout or anything, infact my twitter has almost no art on it and only anime screenshots. and I am fine with 8 followers.

[Anonymous No.4555993]

pls rate.

[Anonymous No.4556002]

When I spend too much time staring at my drawing while working on it I start having visions and can't see anything well

[Anonymous No.4556008]

>>4555993
cute chocolate eggs

[Anonymous No.4556010]

can i get some feedback
someone told me i was symbol drawing
how to improve

[Anonymous No.4556011]

>>4555765
Looks great anon, with the only fault being the dimple above his lips, it looks more like a huge zit. Reverse the shadows, aka where is white put black and vice versa.

Concave surfaces have different lighting than convex ones.

[Anonymous No.4556012]

>>4556002
It happens. Just take a break.

[Anonymous No.4556036]

>>4555777
you need to go darker with your values my man. compare to your ref - squit, zoom out even.
also nice numbers

[Anonymous No.4556044]

>>4555777
>>4556036
Monochrome paintings are a really great exercise.

My advice would be to start with simpler shapes, not a portrait.

Like start with cubes and cilinders and spheres.

[Anonymous No.4556079]

>>4556010
Ok, so head and talons look nice, the rest needs correction.

When you think wings, in your mind comes instantly the thought: "One horizontal line, then connect with lots of w's." As for tail, "Oh, it looks like a flattened oval." That is symbol drawing.

Look picrel. Observe. The wing is covered with feathers, small on the top, big knifey looking at the bottom, about 6 rows, 4 small, 1 medium, 1 big.

Every feather of the 2 rows has a light grey line going through it. The 4 top rows kinda look like roof tiles of old homes.

A bottom row feather has two sides, the left being darker and 3 times wider than the right. Both sides of the feather are straight, up until the end of the bonelet, where the little hairs make a specific curve.

Think of everything in terms of shapes, lines and colors. Don't say, "Oh, crows are black, I paint everything black." See picrel. The feathers have dark grey, white and light grey on them. Both sides are dark grey shapes, the right side has strokes of white, and a light grey line between them.

There is a completely black line under every feather, as each casts a shadow. The light grey line tapers at the end, top feathers lie inbetween bottom ones.

[Anonymous No.4556086]

>>4556079
Also, middle row is twice as big as the top rows, and bottom row is twice as big as the middle row.

[Anonymous No.4556099]

>>4556079
Good post. Feathers have different purposes, and that influences shape. Wings have definite structures - a hummingbird's wings are the same idea, but completely different in structure to an eagle. An albatross, who glides a lot, has a completely different structure to it's wings than an eagle, which has wings designed for speed, power, and agility.
Form and function. It's something to keep in mind when studying nature.

[Anonymous No.4556118]

>>4556079
thanks a lot anon

[Anonymous No.4556130]

Total beg. Want to start with Scott Robertson How to Draw, am i gmi?

[Anonymous No.4556163]

This is my first drawing. I did the picasso exercise, starting from absolute zero. How did I do?

[Anonymous No.4556238]

Some imagined stuff. Which is the worst and best of the lot and why? Thx

[Anonymous No.4556278]

had a lotta fun making this. what you fellas think?

[Anonymous No.4556281]

>>4556278
The little guy in the lower left isn't bad, but I think the way everything about the giant is blurry and messy is pretty distracting, and as for the guy holding up the giant's arm, something is seriously wrong with his lower body.

[Anonymous No.4556291]

>>4556278
i like it but i dont like how blurry it is

[Anonymous No.4556305]

>>4556130
Are you going to actually read the book and actually draw? Then yes gmi

[Anonymous No.4556318]

>>4556281
fair enough. i can definitely see how distractiing the messiness can be. as for the blonde one, can you help out with the midsection? i can never get it right.
>>4556291
yeah i tried to bring the file size down but i suck balls at it. i hope this screenshot is clearer

[Anonymous No.4556338]

>>4556318
guess not. sorry lads

[Anonymous No.4556376]

I feel like I'm getting obsessed/too reliant on either tracing or copying nearly wholesale from reference poses and anatomy and then pasting over the character details of whatever request I got

Like, sizes and proportions just completely elude me

[Anonymous No.4556385]

can i get some help with my homework?

[Anonymous No.4556393]

>>4556385
https://www.amazon.com/How-Write-Essays-Step-Step/dp/1845283414

read this.

[Anonymous No.4556395]

New

>>4556386 >>4556386 >>4556386

[Anonymous No.4556399]

>>4556163
good line confidence, I predict gmi.

[Anonymous No.4556790]

>>4556278
>you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about vs the guy she tells the guy she told you not to worry about, not to worry about

[Anonymous No.4556838]

>>4556790
Lol thanks pal!

[Anonymous No.4556845]

>>4556278
I like the chad the most, although the cooming hulk is cool too. I like the way you put the right shoulder's muscles in perspective like that, and how low the head is under the traps

What's weird is the amorphous legs and the the left arm, which looks weirdly skinny. It's a cool drawing

[Anonymous No.4556870]

>>4555561
Read and apply.

[Anonymous No.4557378]

Just how important is it to learn to draw from 'the arm', rather than the wrist?

[Anonymous No.4557388]

>>4557378
do you want carpal tunnel anon

[Anonymous No.4557412]

How do I get over the disconnect from not being able to know where my pen will go on a screen?

[Anonymous No.4557414]

>>4557412
Why are you guys using the old thread?

[Anonymous No.4557418]

>>4557414
comfy op pic :3