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4494307 No.4494307 [Reply] [Original]

don't loose your art-bf/gf cause they hate your drawings - let the vent out anon

>> No.4494315

>>4494307
what a fucking sad world we live in

>> No.4494326

I fucking hate having my art recognized on /ic/. It doesn't even translate to actual clout off /ic/. I want to go back to being a nobody, because then I'd at least get actual honest feedback instead of people shitposting the same shit at me. I know I'm getting crabbed on just because I get (you)s, but I already feel like shit about art and hearing anons say it's shit over and over again makes me want to give up on this board entirely. I used to have fun here when no one recognized me for my art, I wish I could go back to those days.

>> No.4494329

>>4494326
I recognize your art because you keep making the same mistakes. I’d point them out to you but you’re too stubborn and insist on your own method. Until you change that you’ll keep getting recognized.

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4494331

>>4494326
I know that feel bro. You know it is time to leave when you have faggots go as far as recognizing the way you post and everyone giving you a name you never fucking asked for and it even follows you on other boards.

>> No.4494338

I wish this place wasn't a shithole because the diversity of opinions and knowledge behind Anonymous is fucking great. And the book threads and the artist threads and this thread and that thread. Fucking top notch.

But the posters here are on the spectrum and they need to get off this board and seek psychological and therapeutic help. The ones who shitpost and add nothing of value. You know who you are.

>> No.4494340

>>4494331

>follows you on other boards

You noticed that too huh.

>> No.4494353

>>4494331
>>4494326
At least they don’t know your social media, right?

>> No.4494359

>>4494331
Yeah, I think I just need to cut /ic/ out, maybe even 4chan entirely. I want to have fun posting here but it feels impossible nowadays

>>4494353
I've had people post complaining about my social media on here, even when I wasn't participating on the thread at all.

>> No.4494368

Doing pathetically in social media is bothering more than it should. I know I shouldn't care about that.

>> No.4494380

>>4494359
You can’t cut out 4chan. You’re here forever may you like it or not.

>> No.4494432
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4494432

I had fun with drawing recently but then i started to get into comfort zone big time, i didnt really explore anything new just the same stuff, even same colors.
Even if it was fun i also wanted to improve the overall quality and technique, i developed my own style while i was in that comfort zone but that style came to life out of laziness it just was what i could do and nothing more.

So i decided its time to get out of comfort zone and focus on things i always struggled with big time.
Well its the third day of my training and the works i produce fell down a lot and i want to kill myself i hope it passes.
I really i want to learn new things instead of just drawing but each time i do that i die inside, the longer you stay inside that comfort zone the harder it is to leave

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4494438

>>4494307

I should get back to drawing. All I want to draw is beautiful chiseled male bodies.

>> No.4494448

>>4494432
Don't take yourself so seriously, anon: you don't need to produce masterpieces every time you pick up a pencil. Have fun with failure, reflect on it and move on.

>> No.4494560
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4494560

I feel like I'm going to be mediocre forever. I've done thousands of drawings over the past five years and my shit is still boring, 2-dimensional, unambitious, wildly inconsistent, and completely bereft of both skill and meaning. Seeing artists who actually know what they're doing has long stopped being inspiring, I can't imagine ever becoming a competent artist no matter how much I work. I can't imagine becoming someone who has interesting or relevant things to say with their work. I can't even imagine art being fun. I just get depressed and envious instead. I push away people who want to be friends because they're infinitely better artists than me and I can't understand why they'd ever give a shit about me.

I want to quit but drawing is the only thing I know how to do, if I throw it away I'd just be another autistic shut-in who does nothing productive with his life. I'd have to get some shitty retail job and live with my brain turned off until I eventually die. Either way I'll wind up unhappy, there's nothing I can do.

>> No.4494583

>>4494326
Ever posting art on 4chan is my #1 internet related regret, it's way too personal and recognizable.

>> No.4494628
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4494628

>>4494583
Use a different brush and medium every time. If you draw a lot digitally, draw with a brush pen traditionally next time.
I posted on here about 6-7 different drawings but you’ll never guess who drew those based on this. (Well maybe except for one other drawing.)

>> No.4494631

>>4494628
Oh fuck, forgot to remove that on the top left. Oh, well.
Point remains. Even if you could trace me back to one or two drawings there are others out there that you would never be able to recognize because I used an entirely different medium.

>> No.4494762

>>4494631
>>4494628
Eventually you get to a point where you're recognizable on style alone.

>> No.4495654
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4495654

God i hate being an autistic retard who cant fucking learn, nothing but constant mistakes, ive trying life drawing classes multiple times but ive consistantly wound up being just as retarded as i started. I cant fucking understand how to draw 3 dimensionally. Cant fucking undersrand clothing nor hair, Im at the point where it seems like less of hassle to just abuse 3d software and draw over it because my autistic retard brain cant comprehend how to do anything.

>> No.4495675

>>4494762
This. Unless you artistically commit yourself to making all your art look completely different, people are going to notice after a while.

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4495761

>>4494307
>those 5 guys who like, retweet at comment on every drawing I post
Thanks

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4495770

>>4494326
Being assigned a name means you're that good. I wish I'd have a quarter of the critiques you get

>> No.4495787

>>4495770
mikufag has a name and i dont think hes even near to being good

>> No.4495908

>>4494560
Don't feel bad anon, I'm in the exact same situation right now. I feel like my shit is boring and inconsistent, case-in-point when I post something on a thread and it gets zero replies. Like is it good? Is it bad? Only answer is that it must be so boring it's not worth the reply right? Also it's impossible to go on Instagram or Pinterest anymore, I don't feel inspired anymore just jealous. It's soul-crushing to see progression posts start with crayon-esque shit and within literally 2-3 years they're rendering beautiful anime drawings or realistic portraits.
Sorry if this isn't making you feel better anon, but just know that there's other people who feel the exact same way. We just have to keep chugging along until something 'clicks', right?

>> No.4495942

>>4494307
Background theme for this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI

>> No.4495963

>>4494560
>>4495908
You and me brothers

>> No.4495992

>do this course
>study this
>just draw
>draw from life
God i hate art since theres no way to go around to learning this shit. Ive been completely lost and just been doing things at random because nothing ever makes sense, so i feel like im just lost at sea on a boat, hoping i land on an island that doesnt even exist.

>> No.4496007

Fuck you Zucc. let me fucking schedule my fucking instagram posts and give me the fucking option to opt out of seeing how many people have liked my posts since my last visit. My retarded fucking brain can't stop getting dopamine kicks out of that shit and I don't want to become another one of your social media drones.
>inb4 use an external scheduler
you still have to post shit manually with those so it doesn't solve anything.
>inb4 get the business account facebook integration
I tried setting up a dummy facebook page just for that purpose, but apparently fb is smart enough to recognize it for what it is and refuses to link it with instagram

>> No.4496032

Why do i even come here anymore, this place just completely drains and saps away any of little remaining joy i get from drawing.

>> No.4496036

This isn’t art related but oh my god I want a job so bad please chick-fil-a come through! How do I get a job during the corona times as a /beg/? I just want to move out. This town is a fucking dead end and it’s so stifling living with my parents still.

>> No.4496050

>>4496036
is your house rented or owned? both parents alive? are you an only child? how much are bills and land taxes? you'd be pretty dumb to leave a small town if you're favored to own a house and pass it down, assuming you're on some more open land and not a compacted suburb

>> No.4496053

I WILL MAKE IT! YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!

>> No.4496054

>>4496032
There's nowhere else to go anon. Do you wanna hang-out with the Sonic kids at DeviantArt, feel pressure from the pros at Artstation, or maybe have an existential crisis on Instagram? Oh, how about tucking into a hugbox on Discord? Or you could try out Pixiv if you speak Japanese, otherwise they'll fucking hate you.

>> No.4496058

>>4495787
I wish I was as good as mikufag, unironicly.

>> No.4496063

i have yet again disappointed everyone

>> No.4496069

>>4496054
there's always twitter, the nips use it more than pixiv so you can appeal to them if you try

>> No.4496076

>>4496050
It’s owned and they’re both alive and probably not dying anytime soon. I have a brother that they probably like more. I’m in a compacted suburb. You know that episode of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Mac and Dennis move to the suburbs and go insane? That’s me every fucking day. I also thought I would stay here a while and save up money and not have to pay rent but I don’t think living with my parents is good for my mental health and I’d probably better move out sooner rather than later.

>> No.4496089

>>4496069
Twitters character limit is literally designed to turn people into flanderised versions of themselves and make meaningful engagement practically impossible. If you want an audience there you basically have to shitpost and come up with new hot takes on the daily, respond to other people tweets within a 10 minute window before they've moved on to something else and basically turn your entire life into a social media performance piece.

>> No.4496097

>>4496089
welcome to money making moron
people don't know what they want until you tell them what they want
people are mostly dumb, with short attention spans
etc

>> No.4496114

>>4496097
If social media platforms weren't deliberately designed to amplify peoples worst impulses it would be possible for content creators to get an audience without selling their souls even today.
Youtube animators did just fine producing one 10 minute high quality video every few months until the algorithms was adjusted to increase the time people spend on the site by promoting content that can be churned out on the daily.

>> No.4496119

>>4496114
yes and now "content creators" have taken advantage of endless money, and slower video producers have fallen back to patreon and twitch donations, as have artists. again, people are dumb and bad with their money, why aren't (You) taking advantage if you want it so much

>> No.4496122

>>4496119
because you can't use social media without falling into the rhythm the sites are designed to make you develop, and once you start checking twitter every 30 minutes your art gains days are over and done with.

>> No.4496129

>>4494326
Are you Asukafag?
Fix your god damned faces, until you at least make an effort to do that you deserve no sympathy.

>> No.4496329

>>4496129
Asukafag would never post such aggressive message

>> No.4496334

>>4496329
We don’t know that, this is not only a vent thread, but also an anonymous site, so there are still the chances that’s him.

>> No.4496336

>>4496334
He's polish and don't talk like that

>> No.4496350
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4496350

I’m horrendously slow an even I simple figure drawing will take me upwards of 20 minutes to carve out with the soft brush tool
I used to be able to draw cool stuff in pen, now my pen drawings are illegible thanks to mistakes
I see clout-chasing as worse than death, but I also know I simply wouldn’t attract any fans that way. I’m slow, shit with color, and not as compelling as the top-tiers of artists who can make money that way
Many aspects of my art are getting worse: I can’t draw a good face anymore. I’ve drawn better faces four years ago as an absolute /beg/ than I did yesterday
>>4494560
>>4495963
>>4495908
This makes four of us

>> No.4496354

>>4496129
OBSESSED

>> No.4496383

I feel scared that I can't seem to conjure up good ideas for drawings without relying on others.
Can't remember the good ideas for very long due to my adhd so I once spent a month writing incredibly descriptive records on ideas I thought up, such was my fear of forgetting.
But even when I do try, it's like trying to swim in a salt marsh. You just end up confused, feeling like a dirty and smelly retard goblin.
Like the ability to dream things up and process of thinking are divorced.
I feel tainted, not inspired.

I mainly operate in the mindset of "how do I prepare mentally for a career?".

>> No.4496408

>>4494326
>having multiple people telling you your mistake
>still doing the same mistakes
An classical example of insanity.

>> No.4496506

>tweet a text message
>suddenly notifications are flooded with likes on my previous drawings
What the FUCK is twitter algorithm problem

>> No.4496550

>>4496506
twitter doesn't want its users following 50 profiles that post every once in a while, checking what's new once a week, and otherwise getting on with their lives, it wants people to flood each other with trivial bullshit and """engage""" with the platform, so it rewards you for being a good little post pig.

>> No.4496570

>>4496550
Wow that sucks
I noticed not so long time ago that posting a text tweet few hours prior to posting new art will get you much more likes

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4496731

I havent draw a single happy face since I started to draw, and I started to draw years ago. I think depression is really ruining my aproach to art, since I also use boring colors and uninteresting light setups. I get supermad when I fail to paint something I propose to do to the point of getting angry and yelling everyone irl. Everytime I draw a person and I recognize what it make it beautiful, I feel more and more ugly and hopeless. Also I have been feeling even loner now, because I have realized that "drawing for yourself" do not exist. Art has always meant to be shared, this was true even in primitive times. And yet I dont have any friends to share my art and no one seem to be interested on it when I post it since its boring and ugly, completing in this way a never ending cycle.

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4496826

>retweet someone
>it gets more likes than my art

>> No.4497291
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4497291

I'm not learning anything solid and I'm losing my mind. I heavily rely on reference and trying multiple times with guess work and layer abusing. I can't compose a decent image and my drawings are boring my. I can't even draw a nice bust of a character without reference, and with reference it still comes out really crappy until I spend hours trying to make it look presentable. I'm having a meltdown today because I just feel like a hack. I post art every day that some people like, and even get paid to do drawings for them, meanwhile I'm still struggling with the basics for hours. I don't get why I'm unable to draw attractive faces or decent perspective yet after observing and drawing characters every day. Sometimes I draw simple shapes too but that is boring and I feel like it doesn't do anything for me. But then I try to draw things like prokos rib cage and pelvis shape that he shows in the videos, and I dont understand them at all, then I go ahead to draw the body over the poorly shaped ribcage and it's all out of whack. I try again and again. It's all so tiring but I really want to become a good artist so that I can make fun comics and fan art me and other people like

>> No.4497344

>>4496826
damn

>> No.4497356
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4497356

>>4494438
Understandable.

>> No.4497368

I have the best ideas when I'm really tired, right before falling asleep, probably because I'm drifting into dreamland already, but I am then also too tired to write something down or make something out of it. I just fall asleep, knowing it will all vanish the next day everytime.

>> No.4497467

Drawing is so lonely, I can't bear it.

>> No.4497506

Why the heck am I even compelled to draw pictures
What does it do for ME
Everything I can put on a canvas is just as vivid in my imagination, if not more
I don't gain anything from rendering it

>> No.4497579
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4497579

>>4494307
>real life is shit
>art is shit
>games are shit
>see no point in getting good
>get ignored anyways
>thinking about selling out and pandering to retards makes me want to slit my wrists
>normies make me hate myself for not being a good slave and take it up my ass like they do
>artfags make me hate myself for not being as autistic and delusional as they are
>cannot even relate to anyone
God left me unfinished

>> No.4497634

>>4494307
I don't have a direction to build towards when it comes to art. Originally I wanted to work in the TV animation industry, but god damn has it gone to absolute shit in the last few years, and even if I wanted to swallow my pride I don't want to live in Los Angeles of all fucking places in a shit hole over priced apartment just so I can work on some mediocre kids cartoon. Comics are either dying or just straight up fucking dead thanks to Corona, so that's a no go. I don't know, it feels like I hate myself and everything that I make because I don't draw with a set purpose, there's nothing inherently interesting in the work that I make, and I feel like a retard for not knowing what I wanna say with art at almost 25 years old. How can I believe that I'm gonna make it when I don't even know what "making it" is, y'know?

>> No.4497645

>>4494307
I HATE PERSPECTIVE SO GODDAMN MUCH, FUCK PERSPECTIVE, I'll never read a FUCK about eprspecite I rather spent 25 hours watching landscapes and other shit to learn the perspective instead of drawing fucking shitty lines I even rather leave the art before READING A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT ABOUT PERSPECTIVE, FUCK IT FUCK PERSPECTIVE, I'm using designs that i find on google to my draws, because I'll fucking never draw perspective never fuck perspective fuck perspective

>> No.4497944

>favourite jap artist on twitter blocks/unblocks you to get you to unfollow them

I don't know what to feel. Senpai noticed me but that kinda hurt a little. Maybe it was because of the english comment. At least they didn't completely block me.

>> No.4497947

>>4497944
Which artist? Don't give me that "t-they'll find out who I am!" shit
just share

>> No.4497948

>>4497645
Same i fucking cant stand perspective at all

>> No.4497950

I was about to link you it but then I just remembered someone will click on the "followers" list and see my name and I'm known around here.

Sorry...

>> No.4497953

>>4497950
meant for >>4497947

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4498090

>TFW YOU GET NOT ONE BUT TWO NEW SKETCHBOOKS

I feel like a boss bros. Gonna fill them both with studies and grind hard.

>> No.4498150

>>4497950
>>4497953
Yeah ok fag
>>4498090
Getting new books feels good. Nice

>> No.4498164

>>4496350
20 minutes is a standard length of time for figure drawing.

>> No.4498196

I really want to be good but I really don't think I ever will be, I am not talented at all

>> No.4498198

>>4498196
you're right, you're not talented.

>> No.4498201

>>4498198
That's what I just said

>> No.4498204

>>4498201

I'm just making it more clear in your head.

>> No.4498208

>>4498204
I am going to clarify this dick in your mouth

>> No.4498210

>>4494307
I just want a qt gf who's not a slut, start a family and make money with my comics

>> No.4498211

>>4498208

lol cope you fucking loser. stay in your hole.

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4498224

>>4498211
>cope seethe dilate
Get a new lexicon

>> No.4498234

i am tired

>> No.4498605

I'm fully convinced now that I have to take acid to unlock parts of my brain or sacrifice a goat to Satan, just to be as good as the pros. Watching tutorial videos of people slapping out beautiful drawings in a few lines and coloring those drawings to realistic proportions just using 1 or 2 brushes is fucking with my brain.

>> No.4498610

are any of you terrified of the future?

>> No.4498802
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4498802

I am a slave of my own fandom.

>> No.4498818

>>4496408
>>4495770
I don't even get artistic critiques. I just get people saying they hate my subject matter, or making personal attacks. Even when I ask for actual crit specifically I don't get anything substantial.

>>4496129
I'm not Askukafag bruh

>> No.4498819

I have no friends and no one care about me...

I came back to /ic/ just so i could have someone to share my art with but the praise or likes i've get seem hollow.
I'm having fun for the first time in a long time drawwing but I know once that euphoria is gone im back to nothing. I'm putting up a cheerful facade...or am I? I'm not sure desu but i know it wont last and all the anons im tricking into adding me or interacting with me will soon know I'm hollow and empty and will fall off like everyone else has.

The only thing that stays with me are gains. Praise be to da gains along the way. Since they are our true and only friends.

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4499032

>>4494307
>when you can just look at the drawing and understand how every part was made, can see every stroke and every layer mode
Is this the power of gmi

>> No.4499063

>>4497950
hi atlas! is it you and that the original artist of that work you traced blocked you?

i see you deleted those posts accusing him

>> No.4499068

>>4499063

At least I don't draw mangled lolis.

>> No.4499073

>>4498605
technical mastery just seems like magic to you because you're ignorant. imagine thinking that you can learn a language by doing drugs.

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4499075

>>4499068
whatever you say sunshine i'm still better than you

>> No.4499078

>>4499075

>being this delusional

On your knees you low life.

>> No.4499086

>people still giving him (you)s

>> No.4499087
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4499087

>>4499078
but i am
i don't copy or trace like you do.

>> No.4499088

>>4499087
You have me mistaken for someone else and likewise the same for me. However, I was a bit spot on in my description.

You're a good man and I respect loli artists. Forgive my rudeness.

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4499100

>>4497291
Your entire post sounds like me. I know your dread all too well. The only thing that keeps me going is the blind faith that someday drawing anything will not be a constant struggle at every step.

>> No.4499173

Fuck this board, you faggots are barely any help, half the time i get either shitpost reponses or baseless responses with no context, im doubting getting critque here is worth hassle in dealing with you faggots

>> No.4499179

>>4499173
See you in a few hours.

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4499180

>>4499063
Kek oh it's that loser. A friend of mine knew him and said he was a little bitch about his art too. Stupid tracer

>> No.4499181

positive vent, im so proud of myself for following through with my craft and not quitting after being heavily shamed. (my parents serched through my stuff when i was 16 and found nsfw content and said some really hurtful things) Im objectively "good" now and it feels so sweet, i finally am good at something.

>> No.4499849

I can't seem to do studies or practice anymore, I just wanna get in and just draw.
I'm thinking of just tricking myself to practice as I get on with fun stuff to draw

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>>4494307
>>4494326
>>4494329
>>4496129
>>4496408
>OP makes vent thread
>first sad sack that vents gets flamed by sour cunts

>> No.4500217

>>4500198
Fuck off and die

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>>4496731
Consume the sadness, don't let it consume you. Turn it into something else, something sad but beautiful.

van Gogh had the same problem early on in his career, but he turned it around. He developed his unique style, even as his teachers grew frustrated with his stubbornness and unwillingness to recieve proper instruction. Use what you have to make what you want to see, and fuck opinions.

>> No.4500225

>>4500217
off topic comments make this board, apparently.

>> No.4500244

>>4500225
This is the vent thread

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4500268

>>4497356
so beautiful

i wish i was beautiful

he is what i can only dream of but never be

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4500360

How do you find the courage for ending your pieces that took a week to make it

>> No.4500365

>>4500268
Just lift

>> No.4500425

>>4500365
>start lifting
>get covered in disgusting stretch marks
t-thanks /fit/

>> No.4500461

>>4498818
>I don't get anything substantial.

ye I doubt that

>> No.4500463

They ignored my post :(

>> No.4500513

>>4500463
what post

>> No.4500524

I feel bad for what I done to someone yesterday but they deserved some form of bullying for treating our relationship like a joke. I'm not asking for forgiveness but I hope they understand I was annoyed and angry at their actions. Part of me feels that maybe they were really just looking out for me in their own demented way by telling me to die every time I post etc etc to get me to stop coming here but they have to understand I really have no one else to talk to and 4chan is the only place to talk to people.

Being armed with this knowledge, one can easily use this to their advantage by continuously making posts to get others to not reciprocate what I wanted. Maybe I'm thinking too deep about an alternative reason for why they did what they did and truthfully they could really not give a damn and that's fine too.

But I could not live with myself if I someone managed to put a friend in a bad mood, even slightly. So I'm sorry.

>> No.4500546

>never learn from my mistakes not only in art but in life
wish i was never born an autistic retard

>> No.4500579

>>4496053
my nigga

>> No.4500748

Been trying to get somewhere with my art but I recently learnt that even my partner looks down on that aspiring artist type and from how they talk about my art its clear they think im ngmi.
I still have hope of making it one day but it gets lonely without any support, also bothering now waiting for the relationship to end.

Slowly been making more art friends though, hopefully it'll help.

>> No.4501012
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>old friend logs in
>It's been so long since you've shared a drawing from way back when
>tfw you realize you don't have anything appropriate to share because all you've been doing is drawing coomer tier shit
What have I done.

>> No.4501020

>>4501012
Sin doesn’t pay

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>>4501012
>talk to best friend for the first time since 6 years ago
>tell him I'm into drawing now and have been creating anime porn
>"oh nice, that's like every teenage boys dream"
>conversation proceeds as normal

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I have a problem. I'm extremely slow. No really, to the point it's a legitimate issue. I can take hours on just a single portion of a drawing.
I mean, I'm proud of my progress, I feel like I've been improving a lot and I even started kinda liking my art, but I've been completely unable to increase my speed since I began drawing.
If you suck at faces, you study faces. If you suck at hands, you study hands. What the fuck am I supposed to do when I'm terribly slow?

>> No.4501494

>>4501418
Put your pp in vv and then go ee

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>>4494307
>someone with 2002 in their nickname draws better than you

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>>4501012
Imagine being that insecure about what you're doing

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>Almost 11 years on twitter and I'm finally about to hit 10k followers

I'm so happy. The reason I'm happy is because I've been drawing only things I enjoy drawing (usually the same handful of waifus all my life... to me, it doesn't get boring. I enjoy drawing them.) compared to my peers who are in the 10k~20k+ in a much shorter time frame because they actually draw fanart of flavor of the month games and anime.

>> No.4502092
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4502092

>tired of creating meaningless shit, want to start making original comics finally
>don't want to write a SFW comic because none of my followers would give two shits about it
>don't want to write a porn comic because making up thinly-veiled excuses for people to fuck is incredibly boring to do and not at all worth the effort compared to just drawing the fucking by itself
what do

>> No.4502191

I want to make a thread on /ic/ even though I know it's probably a bad idea I don't know how long I can hold off making it

>> No.4502257

>>4502092
Take sfw story, add graphic sex on it. You don't have to change the plot to make excuses for sex, dummy.

>> No.4502261

>>4502191
Yeah it probably is a bad idea knowing you.

>> No.4502275

>>4502261
I'll try to hold off for as long as I can but I don't know what will happen once I have access to my laptop

>> No.4502296

>>4502275
Why is it a bad idea?

>> No.4502351

I’ve been doing more studies recently and was happy with my progress but in the past two days it’s like it went down the shitter and I’ve lost any ability to draw and I want to jump off a bridge because artistic progress was the only thing keeping me sane in quarantine.

>> No.4502374

>>4502296
A few reasons:
I don't know if I would be able to put enough effort into making the thread properly
I am at beg level so I can't possibly make it a worthwhile thread on my own although it could be worthwhile if others joined I am a little scared of getting bullied if no one else joins
The board has multiple threads covering broad subjects so I'm not sure if it's justified making a thread when it could have it's content split and posted separately in the different large threads we have available
I'm not sure there is interest in the subject of the thread (but I also think the only way to accurately gauge the interest is to actually make the thread)
And finally the combination of the above reasons makes me think my desire to create such a thread might be motivated by selfish reasons... But when there are so many threads created daily with an evidently downright malicious intent behind them I can't help but think "Maybe my thread wouldn't be so bad after all"

>> No.4502378

>>4502351
Try drawing something just for fun today and get your mind back on track. Keeping your nerves is important when learning anything.

>> No.4502467
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4502467

>be neet for almost two years after graduating from 4 year college
>had a job interview at the start of the month; thought it went well
>marketing/media assistant position at an art non-profit in the city
>get a followup email from hiring manager asking further questions
>as I send my reply state governor announces stay-at-home order
>two weeks go by; no word from the hiring manager about the job
>check email; completely forgot I had signed up for their newsletter
>funding for the arts has been slashed statewide until further notice
>non-profit will lose $5492 they'd normally receive by month's end

>> No.4502499

>>4498818
you should see if there are any public critiques in your city and participate in one of them; you'll probably have a better experience

>> No.4503346

I'm so sick of drawing every day, i hate it I hate it I hate it god fuck please. I want one day where I don't have to draw, please god, just break the pinky of my both my hands and free me for a short amount of time from this

>> No.4503443

>>4503346
why are you drawing if you hate it, fag

>> No.4503453

>>4503443
Coombux I bet

>> No.4503474

>>4503443
I love drawing I just want to take a break

>> No.4503484

>>4503346
>i hate it I hate it I hate it god fuck please.
>>4503474
>I love drawing I just want to take a break

Then take a break. Tf is stopping you?

>> No.4503527

i really want to draw, really bad , but every time i try to come up with something it feels void and meaningless so i just strongli take inspiration from other drawings i like or that makes me feel something and then regretting it cause i just made an even more void fake.my only ideas come right the moment before i get to sleep and of course i dont remember shit in the morning.

>> No.4503534

>>4503527
why does everything you draw need meaning? Why does it matter?

>> No.4503540

>>4503534
i guess im just a cry baby who wants at least something with a meaning

>> No.4503554

>>4503540
damn now that im reading my self it really does seems like a very dumb argument , thanks anon, i should just follow my instincts without caring

>> No.4503650

>>4502257
I'm fine with fanservice and the like, but I don't want to waste my time writing an actual story if people are only going to gloss over it for the lewd parts

>> No.4503664

>>4503527
I'm kind of the same way where I'll be struck with the desire to draw something specific only to completely forget what I was going to do by the time I sit down to draw

keep a notebook next to your bed and/or a text file on your phone/computer where you can write your ideas down as you get them. If you read it later and don't feel it anymore, that's fine, at least the idea stuck around instead of disappearing before it got a chance. A lot of the time you'll either still find yourself wanting to do it or at least thinking about it will inspire you to do something else

>> No.4503669

>>4503650
(not that other anon)
then make it good; integrate the sex with the story properly. ideally they complement each other.
are your fans seriously so tasteless as to not enjoy porn w/ well written characters? i'm not talking about fanservice.

>> No.4503686

>>4503650
You will never write an actual story because you have nothing to tell. If your goal with your comic is to keep your followers entertained then keep up with the meaningless shit and draw anime titties for the rest of your life.

>> No.4503733

>>4503686
you're not wrong, anon

>> No.4503760
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I went from 20 followers to over 800 because a notable youtuber used my art in a video, but I now feel intimidated by the fact that now far more people are seeing my art. I didn't think I'd be getting this many followers at my current skill level. I guess how i'd put is, is that I feel like my skill level is too low for the amount of people seeing it, how do I overcome this? I have been working every day to get better but I still want to post on a frequent basis to keep my name on people's pages.

>>4495761
Based positive-posting

>> No.4503819

I'm taking my first steps into digital art and I'm very excited. I am nervous about how slow I may improve but I want to have fun!

>> No.4503827

>>4503760
Then don’t disappoint those people. Improve yourself not only helping your self esteem, but also have something to show to your new followers.

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4503845

How do you politely deny a fucking deviantart artist in collaboration

>> No.4503857 [DELETED] 

>>4503845
Just say no like a like a normal person, dumbass.

>> No.4503860

>>4503845
Just say no like a normal person

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>>4503857
>>4503860
He's being persistent

>> No.4503870

>>4503865
Just say no means no and if he is still trying, then block em.

>> No.4503872

>>4498818
Mikufag?

>> No.4503876

>>4503872
I don't think he ever posts his art unless someone replies "pyw" to his shitposts

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>>4494307
I made two embarrassing posts today that I would have made fun of if they were made by someone else. It's just not my day.

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>>4503878
>that one drawing I've posted on twitter
>that one and the only drawing that I deleted day later out of embarrasement
Maybe posting anything I drew wasn't a good idea after all

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>>4503886
As Limp Bizkit once said:
It's just one of those days.

>> No.4503977

Man fuck doing keys to drawing exercises.
I already know the purpose of the lesson, why not apply it to the style i want to be trained in drawing?
I'm not being fucking bored like fundiesfags and endlessly pumping out drawing exercises like a machine nor am i gonna soullessly copy animu without applying fundamentals.
I'm self-taught bitch i decide how to make learning fun and make progress at improving at the same time.

>> No.4504036

>>4503845
Just say you don't currently have time due to helping family with Isolation

>> No.4504142
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>>4501012
>Imagine being embarrassed of things you like

https://youtu.be/NdtnvFgELLc?t=27

>> No.4504176

>>4504142
>imagine comparing kjg with the average degenerate coomer
drawing lewds doesn't hurt, but that's not all one should draw

>> No.4504197

>>4504142
I wouldn't be embarrassed of drawing porn if I was THAT good

>> No.4504224

>>4504197
The porn isn't very hot though tbqh

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>>4504224
It's tasteful to a certain degree
no pun intented

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4504348

>Grind a lot, get good enough to do commissions often
>Realize I don't have a sense of humor, or fetishes, can't come up with stories or characters
>100% dry creatively
>Skills are basically useless and I'll always be a draw bitch for someone else's idea

>> No.4504393

>>4504348
why not quit then?

>> No.4504397

>>4504393
I'm hoping maybe I'll become creative one day, somehow. Haha.

>> No.4504421

>>4504397
How's your irl life? Friends? Family? etcetera?
I have the same problem but that's because i got absolutely nothing going on.
It won't get better.

>> No.4504424

>>4504397
Hope you're actually doing things to improve your creativity and not just expecting it to magically improve

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>>4494307
I feel so grateful to have found 4chan. It allows to fuck up and say stupid shit and not have that follow me in the long term.

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>>4504431
Ye sure, Michael.

>> No.4504438

>>4504421
Nothing IRL, just some friends online

>>4504424
I have tried like mind mapping or brainstorming or free association but all I can come up it's a clusterfuck, no charm.

>> No.4504463

>>4504434
Who is Michael?

>> No.4504466

>>4504438
great ideas are just a bunch of average-to-mediocre ideas stacked on top of each other in a trench coat

>> No.4504476

>>4504438
Do you go out and observe your surroundings?

>> No.4504490

>>4494307
im so glad no conventions this year. this break helped me realize it's so fucking toxic. gossip breaks and spreads insanely and it feels like everyones trying to embarrass eachother with fake friendliness. not worth the headache for 10k, delegating selling to someone else from now on for less money

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>>4504197
>>4504176
Even if it is all you draw, you have to own up to it one day. Eventually the cats gonna get out the bag so you might as well own it

>> No.4504528

>>4504514
hey, if you got the libido and you don't mind to only draw lewds, you do you.
I don't think it's healthy thing in the long term, you will always be in your comfort zone and never learn to draw anything else beside lewds.

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4504546

My drawings have no soul

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>>4504438
travel and draw I guess

>> No.4504581
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4504581

Just draw

>> No.4504630
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I don’t know if this has been mentioned by anyone, but after 6 years of drawing I’ve only just realized that all the books and videos out there only teach you what can be communicated. There’s a massive amount of stuff that hasn’t, or can’t, be put into words, that you have you discover yourself through practice. And it doesn’t stop there - great artists are doing some things intuitively, that they often aren’t even conscious of. Take the Lascaux cave drawings for instance, many of them are extremely gestural, despite the fact they were drawn tens of thousands of years before someone put a name to that fundamental. There’s a bit of truth to the draw the rest of owl meme after all

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>>4504630
You know, maybe, we're all just trying too hard.
I like that painting.

>> No.4506282

why is it that my art looks flat to me no matter now much work i put into rendering it? yet i see work from other artists that has tons of depth even if it only has minimal shading. or even if its just fucking line art. it makes no goddamn sense

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>>4494307
Sempai noticed me. I can die happy of corona now.

>> No.4506361

>>4506282
Maybe it's badly placed values and wrong colors
i'd say pyw so i can get a better picture of what you mean

>> No.4506382

>>4504630
I'm glad to see someone else articulate this. I think this is an underappreciated stage of one's artistic development, and it's something a lot of people don't want to hear.

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>>4506361
inb4 a million anons shrieking about coom

>> No.4506713

>>4506627
I mean, the pose is quite stiff, especially in the lower half
the left leg appears broken
Maybe what you want to do is soften the edges a little bit both from the shadows and the highlights
also the light reflecting from under her tits looks weird

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>>4506627
Bad case of flyswatted legs, my dude.

Flyswat poses are where it looks like the limbs have been flattened onto a surface with no perspective. Really common to see in hands-on-hips poses where the elbows stick straight out, or in running/jumping where the legs just lie flat. For the life of me I can't remember what book I saw it in, but it's really stuck with me.

Really helpful in avoiding flat poses. Otherwise pretty good. I dig your lines though, man. Nice job.

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4506808

>slowly gain more followers on Pixiv
>get a bit excited if it's an actual artist and not a lurker with an empty gallery
>aforementioned artist watches 2000+ people

I don't know why, but it's feels more depressing when you just feel like some kid's random trading card in a huge jumbled box if it's coming from an artist than a lurker.

>> No.4507064

>>4494307

>draw for ten years straight, get all fundie books, even do to the occasional class at uni and take precious timeout of my major just to better my art
>it's still stiff and shit on a fundemental level and my mind just can't understand perspective or design properly or even draw confident lines

It hurts. I feel like there has to be something wrong with my brain because doing this for this long without major improvements isn't something I see happen often.

>> No.4507076

>>4506808
Pixiv people follow artists like crazy. They're not like western art culture where people are more cautious over who they follow and worry about being judged. They smash that follow button and hit bookmark on your futa vore doodle

>> No.4507079

>>4503346
Bruh why don't you make learning fun

>> No.4507093

After 5 years, I realized that I enjoy music way more than art.
Oh well, I'm too far in now.

>> No.4507102

>>4504142
I don't like kjg's art because his one-pass method doesn't allow him to really refine the lines and play with shape language, flow, composition, etc. I think his drawings would look even more impressive if he did a second pass with refinements.

But every time I say this I get called a crab.

>>4504514
You can only get away with drawing 100% erotica if you're a handsome french guy who radiates raw sexual energy. If you're a plain looking nerdy guy, it just looks creepy.

>> No.4507111

Anyone have video recommendations that teach how to construct the body? I tried multiple videos and tried drawing but I feel like I'm not getting it

>> No.4507423

>>4507102
>I dont like KJG's art
I didn't ask this. I'm showing you how a famous artist does what he wants and shows shit like that without skipping a beat or blinking an eye. His own wife and kids know about it and its not even a big deal

>> No.4507500

>>4494307
>watch a video of a pro artist showing his first ever sketchbook
>just ripping the shit out of his old art
>the work he showed was significantly better than anything i'm putting out on my xth book i don't even have count anymore
time to pull the plug huh

>> No.4507505

>>4507500
Post the vid

>> No.4507509

>>4496731
Oh god I want to fuck marisa in the ass over and over again using the timeleap machine

>> No.4507516

>>4507505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dupN99Fq46Y&t=0s
the only part that really, seriously hurt was at the end where he said something like i promise if you practice every day you'll get a lot better

>> No.4507546

>look at every artist i like first drawing on a booru,
95% first drawings are better than i could possibly shit out.
What the fuck, am i just slow and braindead, i hope that isnt the case...

>> No.4507553

>>4507546
that's probably not their first drawing nan o

>> No.4507909

Anyone here overspecialized?
I go from decent to below beg depending on whether I'm drawing or painting, figure or portraits.

>> No.4508222

I wish the problems I encountered when drawing were simple ones, like "I need to study hands so I can draw them better." Instead, my most serious flaws all seem to stem from esoteric bullshit like "I don't fully understand what lines represent so there's little logic behind where I'm trying to place them." It feels like I need to somehow piece together the basic theory behind drawing before I can begin attempting to learn it in earnest.

I know comparing myself to others isn't useful, but it's hard not to be frustrated by how intuitive drawing seems to be to everyone else. I spent a fair bit of time drawing as a kid, but the only "improvement" I ever achieved was from my hand-eye coordination naturally improving as I grew older. I've always been significantly worse than anyone I've ever met, and I still can't quite pinpoint just what it is everyone else has that I lack.

>> No.4508258

>>4508222
Your problem is that you're conflating verbally expressible ideas with "understanding". Those two are actually orthogonal. Just how a description of a painting can't ever make you experience things that looking at the painting, so can't you verbally understand what a line is until you've drawn lines enough that you gain this innate understanding. And you won't be able to accurately verbalize it either, even though you understand. That's the beauty of art, it's an entire dimension of language and meaning that is not verbal in nature. Similar to other forms of art. Skilled musicians often "talk" by playing instruments, because it's easier to communicate a musical idea by playing it, rather than trying to explain.

So, the solution to your problem is Just Draw(tm).

>> No.4508276

I went ahead and bought a cintiq 24 through financing. I hope this corona shit has a round 2 so those monkeys in congress gives us monthly checks. I feel that now is the best time to buy before that happens, I hope I’m right.

I bought this because my 21ux gives me bad value judgment due to how dim the screen has gotten and it overheats way too easily, especially in the summer time. Anyway i hope I made the right decision.

>> No.4508337

>>4500524
haha kill yourself :D
and no I'm not looking out for you, you gigantic faggot

>> No.4508347

>>4508337
>he’s still here

>> No.4508411

>>4508258
Just Drawing sure didn't help me much as a kid, nor does it seem to have done much for me this time around so far as I can tell. Repeating a task makes one more efficient at it over time, but repetition has to be paired with effective experimentation in order to deepen one's understanding or to actually improve (rather than merely getting faster) at performing a task. I think that's where my efforts have fallen flat. I either can't judge the outcome of an experiment because I can't disentangle all the many factors that cause a drawing to become an incomprehensible mess, or I just can't fathom what I could be doing differently in the first place. I end up just floundering around aimlessly unless I can find some theory that applies to whatever specific problem I'm having.

I'm not giving up yet, though, and I've certainly whined enough about my difficulties for now. Thanks for the well-reasoned response, you gave me some things to think about and helped me to collect my thoughts a bit better.

>> No.4508417

>>4500524
I'm not the other guy. I just wanted to get you to dislike me so you wouldn't try talking to me anymore. In retrospective it wasn't a good idea since I wasn't anticipating anything. I never told you to kys, and I didn't reply to you since that day. This is the last time I'll reply.

>> No.4508431

>>4508417
Gosh do you read every thread here? I’m a little embarrassed now. I don’t know why you would go out of your way to get me to hate you, doesn’t make sense. As I said before I don’t hate or hold grudges against you. So as long as you know that, we’re good.

If it’s not you doing it though I’m not sure who hates me this much. I’ve never done anything to anybody to get them to peddle this much venomous behavior against me but whatever. I’ll get the whole board to hate me eventually.

>> No.4508505

Is there a way to disable mass favoriting notifications on deviantart? I keep getting 300+ notes from these retards

>> No.4508516

what the fuck am i supposed to do for 60 postcards? i have no ideas

>> No.4508595

>>4501418
You are probably detailing too much. Go see Marco Bucci's video of merging shapes.

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i don't know why i'm feeling depressed after drawing, i thought the feeling of relaxing after hard work would be great but i just feel empty..
anyone?

>> No.4508677

>>4508671
yeah. the feeling of getting off from a meaningless job and then drawing some meaningless shit that is never good enough

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>>4508258
this is a very good post

>> No.4509088

I just practiced for 12 hours today.
The only feeling I've had the past few days is that i want to draw more and it's not a good feeling at all. Haven't relaxed in days.
Still complete and utter shit btw.

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>come back after a long time
>you start cringing at your own stuff
>delete everything
How many times does it make it?

>> No.4509316
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>>4507516
>my first sketchbook
>that quality
>my first
something aint adding up bro

>> No.4509340

>>4509316
He just means his actual book dedicated to sketching. It's obvious that he had been trying to copy the comic artists he liked for years.

>> No.4509342

>>4507516
his stuff is intermediate at best, this just tells me you're about at beginner level, which this guy was at some point too (and there's no way these were his first ever drawings, first sketchbook? sure), and if you were to look at your very first drawings, or attempts at such, you would have the same attitude.

Don't compare yourself to others now, compare yourself now to yourself yesterday

>> No.4509868 [DELETED] 

>>4508431
Who fucking cares. You're an insufferable little cunt. Kill yourself asap

>> No.4509909

>>4508431
lmao nobody fucking cares. kill yourself asap you insufferable little cunt

>> No.4509944
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>>4509909
Stop, I already have a boyfriend!

>> No.4510180
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4510180

I have no idea how to learn, its like my brain shuts down and flushes all the info down the shitter

>> No.4510601

>>4509944
Are you against havin two? Asking for a friend

>> No.4511123

>>4510601

I'm only against it if my ABF is against it so you gotta ask him

>> No.4511127

>>4507516
Ouch, it hurt too. But it's nice to see someone's humble begginings.

>> No.4511151

>>4504630
>Take the Lascaux cave drawings for instance, many of them are extremely gestural, despite the fact they were drawn tens of thousands of years before someone put a name to that fundamental.
Don't forget that whoever made the paintings revolved their lives around what they drew, like prey and predators, which were essential knowledge for their survival. Its no wonder they knew how to capture the their spirits so easily with a few big strokes.

>> No.4511225

drawing keeps giving me alot of anxiety, i always feel like im doing shitty and gonna fail no matter what so im anxious to even try

>> No.4511357
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4511357

>rough sketch of not popular but existing character gets more likes than fully rendered oc work

>> No.4511376

>>4510180
Because you don't have a good instructor. Some shit is not that hard, but art is more vague than, for example, maths, and you need an explanation how to apply some rules in your own cases, after a while you'll get it.
>>4509088
Just keep the passion but have little breaks here and there, do some exercises to stay healthy n shit. If you won't relax you could burn out quickly.
>>4508671
You're depressed or feel not good enough compared to your heroes. Try comparing to your older works.
>>4508516
Still lives, landscapes, cars, Pokemon
>>4507909
You're not overspecialized, you're just a beginner
>>4504546
You can gain it over time and practice
>>4504438
Don't be afraid to combine seemingly distant and incompatible things, best combine different things and styles you're passionate about.

>> No.4511415

How do I stop being perpetually sad over my inability to draw? I wasn't anywhere as sad and self-hating when I was just a consoomer with no goals and wants beyond playing vidya and cooming. Also while I don't directly crab people I feel spiteful towards those who make progress with their art and are happy about it which is pathetic af but I can't help it.

>> No.4511418

>>4511415
Why don't you try practicing so you can make progress too?

>> No.4511422

>>4511415
Draw fun things

>> No.4511458

>>4511418
I don't make progress, not for the lack of practicing

>> No.4511468

>>4507516
Don't watch Sycra's progress video or you risk killing yourself

>> No.4511490

>>4503845
Stop being a bitch and just say no

>> No.4511546
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4511546

..How come everytime I post my work, people just laugh at me and say it sucks, what's the point in it if i'm just gonna be made a laughing stock, it's not fair and I'm sick of it!

>> No.4511649

>>4511415
Develop a mental degree of separation from yourself and your art/art skills. You didn't give a shit when consooming because theres a big degree of separation from the source of fun to yourself, if a vidya sucks you think "this sucks", whereas when you make a drawing you dislike you think "i suck". Which is foolish, given neither your art or art skills are you.

>> No.4511722

Out of all things finding resources on 2D animation is the hardest. Everything else has a bunch of tutorials that hold your hand from point a to B, but animation is 'here are the 12 principles of animation have fun!'. God help you if you want to learn toonboom in a professional context.

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It gets harder and harder to hide your power level with each day passing and different people interacting with me, @ at me and sending private messages. I can't keep that mask of a shy artist anymore. One day I will fucking snap.

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I'm waiting for my tablet to arrive (in 10 days) and I'm bored as shit. I tried making an easy-to-animate drawing, pic related

>> No.4512299
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Learning to draw has made me despise anime. I spend hours meticulously drawing faces that look like actual human beings that took months of practice and study. Meanwhile you have faggots that draw a dot, a line, and some cookie cutter eyes they probably copypasted into their drawing like fucking B^Uckley and get thousands of idiots and coomers praising their art. Fuck you.

>> No.4512307

>>4512299
Ew why would you want to draw actual human beings? Anime is the superior vision God intended to create from dust but forgot to huff and puff 2 more times.

>> No.4512352

>>4512299
keep seething realismfag, kek.

>> No.4512848

My braincells are dying by the hour.
I stay awake in the middle of the night, refreshing the catalog every 20 seconds and read each incoming new shitpost. Kill me senpai.

>> No.4512859 [DELETED] 

My whole life has always been living under the shadow of someone else. My younger brother's IQ is 135, while mine is only 116, he was graduated with honors and currently works as a chief software developed for a multinational corporation, while I was a college dropout who has spent the last decade in shitty jobs and using drugs. Nearly all of my favorite artists are also better than me while younger, sometimes much younger, and have already reached levels that would take me entire years to get on pair with. My ex boyfriend's new boyfriend is an artist who makes nearly 100K in patreon every month, and that guy is 2 years younger than me. Sometimes I just really want to pull the trigger ya know.

>> No.4512875

>>4512859
fag

>> No.4512967

Why is perspective so god damn hard

>> No.4513016
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4513016

>Finished a piece worth months of hardwork
>10 likes
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY DO I EVEN TRY

>> No.4513020

>>4513016
If your piece took you months then you are actually stupid.
Post the link to your twitter post. You won't.

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>>4494307

TO ALL THE MOTHERFUCKERS WHO SAID I WOULDN'T MAKE IT. FUCK YOU.

I'VE MADE IT WHILE MOST OF YOU ARE STILL RETARDS ON AN IMAGE BOARD FULL OF BEGS.

>> No.4513189

>>4500524
>>4508431
Not any of the anons above, but leave here, unironically. Even though it leaves you out cold. And take with you an understanding of what this place represents. It is gate- kept by the worst types- by literal dark triads- narcissists, psychopaths, and the machiavellian. People who enjoy destroying or subverting things because it suits their desires. And those who follow, that believe this rule of law of sociopathy is a good, socially eugenic and healthy thing.

Certain types will have your head spinning around in circles if they're able, making you wonder just what fresh hell made you deserve it. You don't. Period. It might be hard to swallow that people are like this, but I had to learn this the hard way.

Live for something, friend.

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4513333

I don't know why I breath. it feels like I'm not making any progress here, I've been doodling the same strange naked figures for years. Maybe if I memorize the limps from their side views I'll make it.

>> No.4513349

>>4513117

This is a lie. Wanna know how I know? People who still use the r-slur will never make it.

>> No.4513351

>>4513016
post it

>> No.4513405
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4513405

My lack of confidence permeates all I do and it's genuinely hurting my art. It makes me work very slowly, endlessly correcting things. It prevents me from opening comms. I can't make friends because I don't want to show them my art. Sometimes when I finish something, I'll just don't post it, I suddenly feel ashamed of it.

I wish I could fix it.

>> No.4513442
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>>4512299
Seething

>> No.4513678

>>4512848
Based, be sure to crab while you're here

>> No.4513692

>>4513189

I'm not leaving here until every last anon who wronged me perishes under my boot in skill.

>> No.4513696

>>4513442
>galge.com

wtf blast from the past

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>>4513696
A shame it's defunct

>> No.4513741
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>>4512299
To understand the concept behind anime eyes, you have to understand they are painting gemstones. I realized this when I was painting Warhammer High Elves miniatures.

>> No.4513847

>>4512299
The fuck lol.
Post your anime faces if it's so easy.
Protip, it ain't.

>> No.4513856

>>4512299
mediocre anime faces < mediocre realistic faces < good realistic faces < good anime faces
both in appeal and skill required

>> No.4514979

I thought returning to draw an OC I liked would be more enjoyable, that maybe it would light the spark in me again. Something a bit lewd. Yet why do I feel so empty?

>> No.4515004

>>4511546
It's ok gains goblin

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>>4513016
>he didn't sign it with "a piece of art that took me a whole month of hard work is finally done" with your face near monitor / canvas for more internet points

>> No.4515194

>>4494380
I can't believe how addicting this site is, and how slyly it lures you in. You just wake up one day and its become your "friend".

>> No.4515220
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4515220

>you now realize it's been 4 years and you're still /beg/

>> No.4515266

>>4515220
There are anons who are still /beg/ after 6+ years, so don’t worry. Just focus on improving.

>> No.4515614

how the fuck do i draw clothing aaaaaaa, ive asked numerous times on this board and got no answers, with one recommendation was the hogarth book, which could barely understand. what the fuck do i do? ive searched fireden multiple times to no avail, there has to be more books on clothing, help please

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4515657

>artist with 18k followers on twitter creates patreon
>16 patrons month later
Absolute state

>> No.4515667

>>4515657
First, artist name? 2nd are they sfw or coom shit?

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>>4515667
Now that I think of it and looking once again through his gallery, he draws big tiddies and asses but no nipples or genitals. Oh well that explains everything, porn sells

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>>4494307
Something's wrong with me. For the past few days, I've made post after post that I regret making after they're uploaded. It's like I'm slowly losing my critical thinking skills.

>> No.4516037

>>4515657

Why should they pay on Patreon when hes giving it away on the street corner for FREE?

>> No.4516826

>Post the best drawing I ever made 100% from imagination on Instagram.

>feel really good about it.

>8 likes. 0 comments. 1 like is my sister. 1 is my best friend. 1 is a great artist who I think thinks I'm a retarded child who gives me pity likes.

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>check cool artist on twitter
>open media tab
>90% of it are replies with distorted images with crying characters and heart emojis

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>>4497944
>tfw I only use twitter for retweeting art, cute animals, & other sfw stuff.
>random jap artist suddenly followed me
>I liked a bunch of their art from before w/o even realizing
>anxiety kicks up
>scared to shit that they might block me
>tfw they actually blocked me

Fuck this retarded gay earth

>> No.4516925

>>4516826
That’s the only engagement I get.

>> No.4517382

>>4516925
show me

>> No.4517387

>>4516897
holy autism

>> No.4517394

>>4516897
That sucks man. I’m glad he didn’t block me outright but it kinda hurt. Maybe the Japanese community is just as arrogant as the west while from the outside all we see is pretty art. I’m not sure but I still want to break in the Japanese space.

Oh and I actually am friends with this 1 Japanese artist. So that’s cool I guess.

>> No.4517413

I've been a math/science kid all my life and was never really able to "get into" art. I never got farther than occasionally drawing simple Adventure Time characters.

I'm studying to get a masters in CS atm, and I'm trying really hard to improve my drawing abilities. I can now sort of understand how boxes work, my lines are at least kind of consistent, but it's really hard.
It's definitely a mindfuck going from engineering to a creative field, and I don't think I'd ever make it the only thing I do, but I really want to improve. I want to make things that people enjoy looking at. It's just hard as shit to make something as simple as a box look good.

>>4499181
I'm happy for you dude.
GMI.

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>>4517394
>>4516897
Is having a Japanese "artist" that either follows you or favorited your work the token nigger of the art world? Is it supposed to show that you're some type of cultured individual or possess some form of virtuous signaling clout? In the three months I did a test blog where no tags or tittle was used there were dozens of bots except for one artist who happen to follow except I didn't follow back and continued to post content without tags or tittles and they unfollowed; was I supposed to follow back and treat him as a pet or something?

>> No.4517417

>>4516897
What’s with Japanese artist and blocking people?

>> No.4517421

>>4517416

If you’re starting out you should follow back but only if they draw stuff too. People who have 0 following look arrogant to me.

As for a Japanese noticing you, I dunno, that’s just the inner child in me thinking it’s a token r something. But connections are connections and if I can make man Japanese art friends then I’m one step closer to the anime industry.

>> No.4517428

>>4517417
Is it common? Maybe they’re more passive aggressive than we think.

>> No.4517430

>>4517421
>people who have 0 following look arrogant
Maybe they're using the art blog as it was intended for, to post content and not use it for politics, a chatroom, or as a Fagbook.

>> No.4517435

>>4516000
You might have thought about this already, but why do you feel the need to post immediately? Have you tried posting something after a delay? For example, make something, write out the post somewhere, but don't post it until one or two days later.

It'll give you some time to passively think about whether you should post it.
Good luck though, I hope you figure out your issues.

>> No.4517440

>>4517428
An extreme example of this would be Hideki Kamiya (Viewtiful Joe / Bayonetta / Early DMC). There was interesting Nick Robinson video that explains his reasoning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLGGeSLCu9o

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I don't know how to render and you should save yourself the time of typing out scott robertson. im not even going to reply to your comment.

>> No.4518569

>post a wip in a discord
>some ngmi points out a flaw
>can't detail the flaw but just vaguely suggest it
>not helpful at all
>no demonstration of knowledge
>open up their social
>they barely draw
>they just argue on twitter all day
>definition of ngmi
>fuck that cunt bro
>be a sick cunt bro
>they're never gonna paint this well bro
>fuck that cunt bro
>be a sick cunt

>> No.4518575

>>4517893
fucking learn to render bro your perspective is sick you're gmi bro don't feel sorry for yourself go study rendering and be a sick cunt bro

>> No.4518581

>>4499181
fuck yeah bro you're gmi congrats on not listening to those fucking losers and deciding to be a sick cunt

>> No.4518594

>>4517413
man you're gonna do it don't worry if you can do maths and science you can do this and you can bring those skills over with you when the creativity and fundamentals click it'll all come together and you'll be a sick cunt bro

>> No.4518780

>>4517421
>People who have 0 following look arrogant to me.

>Follow amazing artist but literally every 5 mins he's tweeting something so asinine it's beyond belief
or
>Follow that same artist's art-only account so I can get what I want and not the other part where they're making extremely retarded ass tweets on my feed

Art-only accounts are good.

>> No.4519130

>almost no improvement over 9 months
>terrified ill never improve or just end up stagnant
>cant stop hating my own artwork to the point where i just break down
>dont know how to study
>still cant draw cloths hair, rendering or understand 3d space
>lineart is still trash
is there a point where i just have to face acceptance that i was ngmi from the start

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>>4519130
In the past 6 months I improved more than I did since I started in 2016. Never give up, we're all gonna do it.

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>>4499181
there are very few times in my life when ive actually been proud of myself. i view every accomplishment as me barely getting by with the absolute minimum required to not die or be in jail. i know that isn't exactly true but i don't relate to being proud. i mean... do you watch porn in secret that you hide from your friends? you have to delete your browser history before they come over because i do and im not proud of that. do you smoke weed? if so why cant you be happy without it? if not why not? in my case it was contributing to depression and making me lazy and giving me panic attacks in the middle of the night. Should I be proud that I stopped? No, I'm not proud. I didn't have a choice. Who the fuck would put themselves through that. I had this goal in 2018 to commit to a gym, get a personal trainer, eat right. I did it.. I put on 15 lbs of muscle. I hated every second of it and on January 1st of 2019 I quit because I finished the task I haven't been back to a gym since. I can't be proud of that. Even if I was still going, why do you need a trainer? Most people don't have to waste 500 bucks a month to pay some 23 year old to help them. No matter what I do it isn't good enough.

I'm single. Why? I don't blame women for not wanting to fuck me. They can definitely do better. I make 50 grand a year. I live in a tiny studio apartment. Im out of shape. Instead of saving up for a house, going to school to try to make more money, getting a second job or working out what do I do with my time? I try to improve my drawings because for some reason that is the thing taking priority in my life. It's so important that I don't quit this one thing. And how's my progress? Really fucking slow. Imperceptibly incremental. I'm better than a normie who puts no work into drawing. Should I really be proud of that?

>> No.4519808

>>4494307
i swear to the fucking gods making the first drawing is the hardest, ive literally sat looking at a blank page for over 2 hrs

>> No.4519828

>>4519808
i find kjg's live streams very inspiring. put it on and just go for it. dont worry how terrible it looks. dont copy him, but just when i see him in action it makes me feel like i am being apprehensive for no reason. dont worry about it if you make a mistake, just keep going. once you get one or two objects down on the paper, more ideas will come naturally

>> No.4519845

>>4519775
just a random Sikh anons two cents here, but we don't view pride as a positive thing, we try to get rid of it. gratitude is what I think you should try to foster. contentment, compassion, humility, forgiveness and love are what we prescribe, but pride should be eradicated along with lust, anger, greed and attachment. just a point of view.

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4519992

>your biggest fan is a fucking furry

>> No.4520360

>>4517440
This was an interesting watch but I doubt Japanese artist are mimicking this guys trigger happy blocking.

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>>4519845
pride should be absolutely fucking eradicated