/beg/ thread

[Anonymous No.4480644]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4478154

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.
Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4480660]

>>4480654
it's the corona
SCHOOOOOOOOL'S
OUT
FOR
SUMM

[Anonymous No.4480671]

Is Paul Blart a Christmas movie?

[Anonymous No.4480681]

>>4480644
any tips for learning to light the body? I'm going through Vilppu just trying to feel the form, anatomy is the next section, I already downloaded anatomy for sculptors to use while watching the lectures.

[Anonymous No.4480709]

>that nice feel when your mind locks in on the form when you're figure drawing and it feels like your pencil is sensually dancing along the form like some kind of lewd ant

[Anonymous No.4480711]

>>4480709
>that devastating feel when the next day you realise it's shit

[Anonymous No.4480716]

>it's time to draw the feet or hands

[Anonymous No.4480720]

>in the middle of a drawing
>"holy shit I have gotten so fucking good, I'm going to post this on /beg/ and just casually say "Latest study." and everyone will reply with "wow anon!" and "not /beg/!""
>finish the drawing
>"actually I don't know about this one, maybe I won't post it after all"
>look at the same drawing two days later
>"dear god this is awful"

[Anonymous No.4480729]

>>4480711
doesn't matter if you've already coomed to it

[Anonymous No.4480732]

>>4480681
Have you tried an eraser or rubbing it with a cloth or piece of paper

[Anonymous No.4480741]

>>4480720
I know that feel bro

[Anonymous No.4480753]

what's the typical process of how your drawings collapse?
>draw placeholder figure drawing head. looks good
>draw upper body. looks good
>working my way down now. lower body looks good
>upper legs look good
>upper arms look okay
>lower arms. oh no oh no no
>lower legs. oh no no no no
>placeholder mitten hands no no oh no
>feet. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4480764]

>>4480753
mostly, i have to redo the arms or something, which makes the legs look weird, so i redo that, which makes something else look weird ... forever and ever.

[Anonymous No.4480769]

>>4480753
I don't know that feel talentlet. lol.

[Anonymous No.4480770]

if a pro suggests me to do an exercise but i feel like its totally useless and im not learning anything, should i do anyway?

[Anonymous No.4480773]

>>4480753
Draw head sketch
Draw hody sketch
Draw face
Realize head is wrong make head smaller
Draw body
Realize head too small make body smaller
Draw arms
Draw legs
Draw duck feet and mittens
Redraw hand arm is now wrong redraw arm (repeat)
Redraw legs and feet (repeat)
Realize I forgot to do a non stiff and interesting pose on the sketch so the drawing is fucked
Turn it into a lewd drawing fap and give up

[Anonymous No.4480777]

>>4480770
at least try it

[Anonymous No.4480778]

>>4480770
yeah probably. depends on who the pro is though. so many times I've skipped stuff because I thought it looked useless and then I found out much later on that actually I was retarded and it was very important after all. this applies to basically everything I ever heard from vilppu for example

[Anonymous No.4480783]

>>4480764
On the one hand you have to know when to call it quits, on the other hand I think redoing incorrect parts of your drawing is very important and it's something /ic/ seems to neglect almost entirely, so I think it's actually better to err on that side.

[Anonymous No.4480792]

How can I improve the hands and hair (And clothing folds)?

[Anonymous No.4480793]

from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlSomivIJkk

does it count as tracing?

[Anonymous No.4480807]

loomis is great for understand heads and shit but I suck absolute dick at drawing the actual features in it

[Anonymous No.4480814]

I removed the extra nipples, because why the fuck not. I'm going to try drawing the character again, but this time in a bed and with less muscles and a cuter face.

[Anonymous No.4480816]

>>4480753
>mark out everything
>looks good
>work through anatomy up to contour
>looks great
>place sheet over monitor to check out
>damn, this is perfect
>look at other side
>2/3rds the width. fuck
>try to adjust
>fuck fuck fuck
>spaghetti spills out onto the page
>final result sub/beg/

[Anonymous No.4480819]

>>4480814
This is pretty good Anon, if you color it I'm sure /d/ would love it.

[Anonymous No.4480827]

>>4480814
I liked it, but the dick is too simetrical, too cylindrical, too boring. See how some doujin artists draw dick, try making it more charming.

[Anonymous No.4480829]

>>4480814
the legs being so tightly together, while he's bending backwards like that-- his arms behind his head -- is very weird.
it's off balance, or unnatural. very jarring, at least, to me.

[Anonymous No.4480833]

>>4480814
leave /beg/ go away!

[Anonymous No.4480836]

I tried to do the model another anon brought

[Anonymous No.4480841]

>>4480827
>>4480819
>>4480829
Thanks. This was pretty much my second time drawing a dick, I'm going to try something more creative the next time. Maybe the path to enlightenment is to try drawing one of those crazy dicks from radiohead or something. I just got a idea.

[Anonymous No.4480842]

Some more progress, almost done

[Anonymous No.4480845]

>>4480836
v. cool lines /int/ poster

[Anonymous No.4480848]

>>4480753
>anatomy passable
>pose is stiff and ugly
>FUCK

point A, meet point B

[Anonymous No.4480849]

>>4480845
i also wanted an excuse to stare at that tummy and thighs

[coomer No.4480857]

>>4480849
those breasts look hard as rock gaddam

[Anonymous No.4480863]

>>4480857
i need to study more tits, but in my defense, the antigravity was like that when i got there

[Anonymous No.4480867]

>>4480857
The flatness is a bigger problem than the hardness.

[Anonymous No.4480869]

>>4480863
It looks like you have more fundamental problems like form and perspective, Instead of copying this picture all the time, I would choose some female full body shots to study, something from Quickposes or croquis cafe is a good start.

[Anonymous No.4480883]

>>4480867
flatness? he drew pretty much spheres.
>>4480869
second this; when tend to do the same poses when taking nudes for the obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.4480886]

>>4480869
>fundamental problems with form and perspective
>recommends something other than working directly on fundamental form and perspective
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4480889]

>>4480863
i want to nap on that tummy while toying with her pubes and smelling my fingers now and then

[Anonymous No.4480890]

How do I get better at drawing cute?

[Anonymous No.4480893]

>>4480845
What?

[Anonymous No.4480897]

>>4480886
If you do figure drawings you should be able to grasp more fundamentals if you aren't a complete dumbo.

[Anonymous No.4480907]

>>4480814
that anatomy is terrible, nippes that hig, 300 abs,serratus that short,weird lat marks, one arm shorter , scapula that high, inflated leg with no form and wrong perstive relative to the ''abs''.

[Anonymous No.4480919]

The fuck is /int/, are you referring to the board?

[Anonymous No.4480920]

>>4480897
the 'work out the difficult parts of a song by playing it over from the beginning' approach

[Anonymous No.4480921]

>>4480907
Still better than anything you've ever drawn lol

[Anonymous No.4480926]

>>4480907
do you have any idea how many abs a human has, friend

also those were tits in previous versions of that fag's drawing lmao

[Anonymous No.4480927]

>>4480921
>no u
yikes

[Anonymous No.4480931]

>>4480919
/intermediate/, newfag.
which actually i take back. it looked a lot better before i zoomed out.

[Anonymous No.4480933]

>>4480770
if you dont want to do it then do it twice as much.
the mind is lazy and the excersises that help the most are the most tiring.

[Anonymous No.4480937]

>>4480926
i forgot because of the lockdown there's only zoomers browsing the board now

[Anonymous No.4480945]

>>4480931
So, can you give me critique now?

[Anonymous No.4480950]

this sucks

[Anonymous No.4480952]

>>4480950
Correct, so draw more, get an actual sketchbook and fix your mistakes.

[Anonymous No.4480954]

>>4480937
look at your hands and tell me how many fingers you see!

[Anonymous No.4480960]

>>4480954
>zoomer has never hear of the 300 movie and the abs meme in there
okay fag

[Anonymous No.4480963]

>>4480960
that's right, ten! good job!

[Anonymous No.4480969]

>>4480963
so 290 less, damn that anon still right. fuck

[Anonymous No.4480970]

>>4480952
I have one just didn't feel like drawing on it

tho I feel like i'm making progress, but I just know how to half ass a head tho

[Anonymous No.4480974]

>>4480970
god putting side by side the one with a reference and the one from memory really shows how much dick I suck

[Anonymous No.4480978]

>>4480974
I can't tell which is which bro. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.4480980]

>>4480945
wasn't being sarcastic weirdo. i liked the lines. probably you're around my level so i wouldn't be comfortable doing that.

[Anonymous No.4480982]

>>4480978
come on now, clearly the one in the left is the one with a reference, I should stop chickening from drawing actual chins

[Anonymous No.4480987]

>>4480980
Well, thanks! I'm doing values right now

[Anonymous No.4480990]

>>4480970
Here you go

[Anonymous No.4480991]

>>4480974
More loomis or look at bridgeman heads and Asaro heads. Do some asaro head studies and I bet you'll get a bit better at faces. I got better at portraits when I took a ton of mugshots online and did each one.

[Anonymous No.4480993]

>>4480982
They're all about the same quality.

[Anonymous No.4480997]

>>4480990
much better, I'm absolute inept at drawing iris

[Anonymous No.4481002]

>>4480991
alright, I'll do it thanks

[Anonymous No.4481006]

>>4480644
>tfw put off by how good the digital art in /beg/ tends to look compared to the physical paper drawings i do
>remember that mistakes in digital art can literally be deleted as they happen, meaning your end product can look great without seeing all the lines that came before that one
>feel a bit better about my shitty paper drawings

[Anonymous No.4481013]

>>4480997
I think the eyes were the biggest thing that jumps out, scary looking. otherwise almost passable

[Anonymous No.4481025]

>>4481006
You can delete mistakes forever on digital, but doesn't mean that finding the right lines is any easier.
Why don't you give digital a try?

[Anonymous No.4481033]

>>4481025
I've been thinking of that, is the Wacom Intuos S good for starters?

[Anonymous No.4481035]

>>4481025
it doesn't make any given attempt easier, but it surely gives you an order of magnitude more attempts in the same amount of time.

[Anonymous No.4481043]

>>4481033
go for the L if you can or the M if you absolute can't

[Anonymous No.4481047]

>>4481006
idk,i think computer vs. paper is hard to compare.
paper is definitely quicker though-- a little easier to do, but for big projects computer has a better finish, maybe.

[Anonymous No.4481051]

>>4480907
Actually, thanks for the comment about nipples, serratus etc, nearly everything I have finished so far are females, never had bothered to notice those details until now.

[Anonymous No.4481059]

>>4481043
The store only sells S, what's the difference?

[Anonymous No.4481061]

>>4481051
>everything i have finished so far are females
how many of them had pensies anon?

[Anonymous No.4481063]

Is it okay to use a soft brush to paint shadows and light for a softly blended semi realism look?

[Anonymous No.4481069]

>>4481063
All you need is the hard round and slight opacity sometimes to get shadows

[Anonymous No.4481072]

>>4481059
dimensions of active area, imagine drawing on a 5x3 inch area but your monitor is 24'', so a small stroke is going to be a huge one in your monitor. you want the closest active area to your monitor size mostly to have a better control of your lines.

[Anonymous No.4481076]

>>4481061
haha every bisexual likes trannies haha

[Anonymous No.4481085]

>draw overhand
>everything looks beautiful and feel of life. Even simple shapes look very satisfying to me
>draw with tripod grip
>ugly looking, amateurish, stiff, lifeless, shit
Why? I draw with my arm both times, no wrist movement. It’s like I forget how to draw with a tripod grip but with overhand my imagination flows so freely. This is so stupid

[Anonymous No.4481088]

>>4481076
>draw a tranny
>people think you like trannies
>help help i'm being stereotyped
fuck off faggot

[Anonymous No.4481091]

>>4481072
I have a 15 inch laptop.. but I get it

[Anonymous No.4481103]

>>4481088
>draw thing
>people think I like thing
I hate this meme. Wish I could draw things I hate or find disgusting without people making wrong assumptions about me

[Anonymous No.4481115]

>>4481103
I want to draw porn but I feel anxious that somebody is going to find my drawings, so that's why I want to try digital

[Anonymous No.4481119]

>>4480814
Even after that takedown the other anon gave you, I wish I had your talent. You have been at this only a fraction of the time a lot of us have.

[Anonymous No.4481133]

[Anonymous No.4481135]

>>4481133
Be less messy and draw like you care anon. What are those random blotches of graphite on the tiddies?

[Anonymous No.4481143]

I was trying to blend oops

[Anonymous No.4481153]

Any critique on my will Smith portrait? Took 3 or 4 hours with the shading

[Anonymous No.4481164]

>>4481153
>*sazuke flashbacks begin*

[Anonymous No.4481165]

>>4481143
I can't say for sure but you were probably using too hard of a pencil or you pressed to hard for it to blend properly.

[Anonymous No.4481169]

>>4481153
Read drawing on the right side of the brain and keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.4481190]

>>4481088
>draw a tranny
oh i see, you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.4481235]

>>4481153
Was this really made with a Sasuke reference pic

[Anonymous No.4481243]

>>4481133
that's a front on angle. the reference was like 2/3 or 3/4

[Anonymous No.4481244]

>>4481133
is this chick a /beg/ meme

[Anonymous No.4481254]

sorry for big file, crit?

[Anonymous No.4481263]

>>4481254
it's good anon (: beyond my ability to critique

[Anonymous No.4481265]

>>4481235
Why do people keep mentioning samsuke? Is there a meme I dont know about

[Anonymous No.4481269]

>>4481244
I don't know

[Anonymous No.4481272]

Who!

[Anonymous No.4481280]

>>4480644
I changed a bit of this from my last post. How do the fuck do I do foreshorting without turning her into a midget?

[Anonymous No.4481311]

>>4480792
>6 fingers

U avin a giggle m8?

[Anonymous No.4481313]

i am working through drawing on the right side of the brain. where tf am i supposed to get a portrait model while on lockdown and can't leave my house? should i just draw a photo?

[Anonymous No.4481323]

mirror, photo, get a bust

[Anonymous No.4481325]

>>4480890
Big heads and eyes, study cute things

[Anonymous No.4481330]

>>4480927
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4481338]

>>4481272
Love the eyes, can't crit you because I don't know how to paint but nice job!

[Anonymous No.4481341]

>>4481313
Please draw Picasso's portrait of Igor Stravinsky upside down at least 1000 times

[Anonymous No.4481342]

>>4481272
Resize plz

[Anonymous No.4481344]

i need help shading this piece

[Anonymous No.4481370]

[Anonymous No.4481397]

>>4481280
It's a couple of things you have wrong that is attributing to the effect.

Its mainly about proportions. The right thigh needs to be thicker and taller, and the angle of the lower leg doesn't really work. She looks a bit anorexic in your image

This is my take on it anyway. sorry if the neck was a style choice, but the arms were kinda awkward as well

[Anonymous No.4481404]

Is it just me or are male faces inherently more varied in terms of ratios?

[Anonymous No.4481412]

30 seconds gesture, trying to use lines as few as possible, is there anything im doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.4481424]

>>4481397
Realised her torso was too short and tried to fix again and played with bringing back your original angle of the left foot, closest i could do without feeling like i was breaking it

[Anonymous No.4481431]

>>4481412
Doesn't seem like you are doing anything wrong. If I were you i'd already be picking a couple of those to use for a more detailed figure

[Anonymous No.4481471]

>>4481431
>for a more detailed figure
You mean start doing construction or contour?

[Anonymous No.4481478]

Hey, I noticed that going back to tradition art (ie, pencil and paper) for the first time in a little while that my art was way worse compared to digital (ie, tablet). Is this a normal thing to happen? Should I try to balance them more, or is it not necessary?

[Anonymous No.4481482]

come on guys, where are the crabs telling me its shit?

[Anonymous No.4481504]

>>4481478
of course there is gonna be a difference, muscle memory deteriorates fast.

[Anonymous No.4481522]

[Anonymous No.4481553]

>he doesn’t use modeling tone

[Anonymous No.4481577]

Hey can anyone critique?

[Anonymous No.4481578]

>>4481577
ear is in the back of her neck

[Anonymous No.4481605]

>>4481577
>paintover

[Anonymous No.4481607]

>>4481577
im getting so quasy vives from that eye

[Anonymous No.4481612]

faces are fucking hard

[Anonymous No.4481616]

>>4481612
I can tell you're spending a fair amount of time on these, because you're giving yourself time to chicken scratch and be indecisive with your lines. Your measurements are off, too.

I don't think I can give you any advice to fix these drawings, so I won't try.

My rec:

Draw 100 faces. One minute each. Use pixelovely or some other tool. Don't chicken scratch, use long fluid lines.

You'll probably not be able to finish the first 25 and hate the first 50, but you will improve.

If you do this, come back and post results.

[Anonymous No.4481626]

>>4481612
oh boy... you're actually retarded

[Anonymous No.4481628]

Not a fix but attempt to solve it by my self to do something. dnot really know how to do this.

[Anonymous No.4481629]

>>4481522
Can I get critique for my rendering?

[Anonymous No.4481642]

>>4481628
>>4481424
>>4481397
>>4481280

I was basing my drawing off this reference photo fyi,

Thanks for the info however.

[Anonymous No.4481646]

>>4481628
it's a lot better anon, by shrinking her torse it is now in proportion with the legs, and you fixed the arm/leg poses a lot.

Only thing remaining imo is the right foot, i think the angle is still a little weird unless she is sitting on a downward slope/hill

[Anonymous No.4481652]

>>4481642
oh ok so yeh, just an anorexic model.
Major difference I can see from your sketch would be torso length and angle of the right leg in this case

[Anonymous No.4481655]

>>4481577
I've attached what I would do (this is just a rough, quick edit). A few notes:

+As others have mentioned, her left eye (our right) is absolutely borked. Eyes are tough to draw at this angle - the eye would probably look more like what I've drawn here.

+The placement of the ear is, (as other anon said) currently at the back of her neck, which looks odd. Consider erasing it and redrawing it in this general area. The neck is a little girth as well - consider taking the whole thing in a notch.

+I selected the entire hair+bow and moved it down a bit. It looks like the whole mass is a little high.

+Her body looks odd. Consider simplifying the shape. It's sort of unclear what pose she's supposed to be in. Arms out in front? If so, make it a little clearer.

+Mouth was a little too small. Looked like she was making a puckered 'kissy' face.

+A simple rimlight could really help describe the forms of her face. I find rimlights work nicely on portraits with such bright yet super simple backgrounds.

+The previous minty BG color is fine, but I think you could just make it a nice light blue - make the color scheme look more unified.

+The bow is really well done and I like the texture of the hair!

+All of my criticisms came from just flipping the canvas horizontally. Remember to do that often, especially when drawing portraits. These things will jump out like a sore thumb.

Hope this helps!

[Anonymous No.4481656]

>>4481616
I don't really want to delve deep into faces before I'm more comfortable with other stuff, Thanks for the critique though.
>>4481626
???

[Anonymous No.4481658]

i think I may be mentally challenged, I cannot imagine cubes in space.

[Anonymous No.4481675]

>>4481656
Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.4481682]

>>4481069
What about when I want a watercolor effect?

[Anonymous No.4481731]

Been out of /ic/ for quite some time, now quarentine forced me to go back

[Anonymous No.4481733]

>>4481731

[Anonymous No.4481735]

>>4481733

[Anonymous No.4481768]

>>4481578
That'll be fixed by next post hopefully
>>4481605
I only named it a paintover because I've made a few passes.
>>4481607
Noted. They've bothered me so much it's not even funny.
>>4481655
Thanks anon! The only thing I think I'm iffy about is the lips don't look right still. I should look for some references tomorrow before I put some work in it.

I appreciate all the time anons!

[Anonymous No.4481772]

>>4481731
Oh these look cute! Very soulful

[Anonymous No.4481792]

i’m trying to draw this image https://imgur.com/a/MbrEcIp

[Anonymous No.4481826]

>>4481612
L o o m i s
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[Anonymous No.4481837]

>>4481772
Thanks, anon

These are very significant improvements over my older drawings, they're not that good yet but I'm happy

[Anonymous No.4481876]

[Anonymous No.4481889]

>>4481612
i'm fucking awful holy shit

[Anonymous No.4481899]

What do you do when you sit and can't draw anything? All i am able to do is scribble stuff from imagination

[Anonymous No.4481932]

>>4481628
lol

[Anonymous No.4481989]

>>4481899
Perspective work, reference studies, figureS and gestures, loomis

[Anonymous No.4481999]

>What do you do when you can't
sometimes trying itt things for a change

[Anonymous No.4482001]

>>4481889
>Get told to draw a bunch of faces quickly
>Oh I don't want to really draw faces
>Keeps fucking drawing faces

You are, but not for the reasons you think.

Try something different or stop fucking complaining.

[Anonymous No.4482008]

>>4481889
try to not draw eyes.

[Anonymous No.4482045]

>>4480720
Literally me

[Anonymous No.4482050]

lower body seems a bit weird, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4482051]

>>4482050
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4482052]

hey /beg/, sketch from a few days that i have a question on coloring
i want to put a water color over this, but im not sure if i should go at it with a micron pen first before watercolor, or just clean it up and put watercolor with the graphite

any anons who've worked with watercolor, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4482067]

>>4482050
Left thigh is too thick I'd say. Add some more room for the vag, maybe that will make it look better

[Anonymous No.4482078]

>>4482051
don't have one, should I get one?

>>4482067
good thought, ill play around with it

[Anonymous No.4482085]

Her right arm looks weird or is just me?

[Anonymous No.4482087]

>>4482085
I wouldn't worry about the arm, but her face is way too wide and that mouth need to be smaller or readjusted

[Anonymous No.4482098]

WIP, im stuck, idk what to do next

[Anonymous No.4482101]

>>4482098
Add on details

>>4482087
>but her face
> butter face

[Anonymous No.4482108]

>>4480644
Did a thing

[Anonymous No.4482109]

All right, I'm not having a good time with this. I don't understand lineart, and it's not the "I can grok it if I watch some tutorials" type of not-understanding, I feel like I'm missing something basic here. Artists I follow have very crisp lines that start and taper neatly, even at their beginner stages, but I can't seem to get these no matter which brush and stabilizer I try. Curves are completely impossible, I've just about given up on breasts.

Is this a software issue, do I need SAI or Photoshop rather than Krita? Or does it have to do with practice, and if so, what exercises should I do to fix it? I don't know how to draw clothes/accessories, so everything I draw has few lines and little variance in line thickness. Maybe this is why things look off if I can't get body contours exactly right, and I can distract the eye if I added clothes. Would studying that help?

Once I get lineart right on this, I plan to follow some of Hyanna Natsu's videos to try my hand at proper rendering. I also need to look into the 'contours of the female body' book on panda.

[Anonymous No.4482125]

>>4482109
Draw organic shapes to build your line confidence. Things like shapes and tubes and curves feel organic when they feel soft and tridimensional, that's your goal. A side effect is also gaining confidence in your lines and being able to do let's say an entire breast contour in one line.
Don't remember the tutorial guy's name but he's one of the spammed memes from here, someone will point you in the right direction, but basically what you need to do is draw a contour of a weird shape you imagine and give it equatorial lines to give it a parent volume. Only shapes, nothing fancy like body parts.
At least for me it was the best way to loose chicken scratching, though on digital without seeing what I draw it's upped on the difficulty.
Also if you put too much stabilisation it'll give you bad habits.

[Anonymous No.4482131]

[Anonymous No.4482140]

>>4482109
Her position is very stiff and not readable, I mean what the fuck is she doing exactly? Before doing a piece try and figure out what the reference pose is telling you, is it sexy? cute? or angry? Map out the pose with lines first before doing anything, even shapes.

[Anonymous No.4482150]

>>4482125
I think drawabox has an exercise like that. I'll go through it and report back, thank you.

One thing I noticed is that some artists draw multiple lines for their contours, but their lines follow exactly from one another. Are they just that experienced, or is there a guide setting that says 'align the start of my next line to the tail of my last' somewhere?

>>4482140
>what the reference pose is telling you
That might be the problem, I'd been drawing from imagination. I'll find a pose book to follow instead.

I also have lots of problems attaching the head to the body, and sizing the head up right. I've heard that drawing the head first is a bad idea, so maybe stopping that would help, even though every single speedpainter I've watched does it.

[Anonymous No.4482174]

Do you guys draw with construction or just kinda draw the face then move on to the body and limbs? Maybe it’s becuase I’m in /beg/ but it’s easier for me to do the ladder. Also I draw on paper and a lead pencil so doing construction is a pain in the ass. But if it’ll be better to learn for the future by all means I’ll work towards improving it. If it’s not that important I’ll keep doing what I’m doing

[Anonymous No.4482192]

>>4482174
i'm starting to do the former nowadays. i was never be able to work within the construction.
i've always done construction, but i'm not sure why it's working out more so for me at this point. it's definitely convenient / less frustrating though.

[Anonymous No.4482196]

>>4481243
btw

[Anonymous No.4482217]

I'm hitting the art gym hard. Head anatomy and Barque drawing course. What I'm doing with Barque is maybe different though. I try to do the deconstruction myself and then compare it to the professional deconstruction and see what I can learn. Because these guys are awesome at deconstructing the form into simple planes which is what I want to learn. There's so much wisdom in these simple drawings I feel myself leveling up every minute.

[Anonymous No.4482221]

>>4482108
You are forgetting that eyelids have thickness, if you add that (especially to the eye further away) the eyes would instantly look a lot better, otherwise good job.

[Anonymous No.4482234]

>>4482221
not that anon but could you go through the effort of demonstrating how you'd show thickness? especially on the eye on the right.

[Anonymous No.4482239]

>>4482050
wtf is that front facing vagoon

[Anonymous No.4482309]

>>4481577
here is my take but >>4481655 summarized it better than I could

[Anonymous No.4482312]

>>4482221
Holy shit that's what was bothering me, thanks
Altough I always fuck up the thickness of the eyelids, do you have any tips or reference?
I know manga for example makes eyelids extremely black and thick but I never manage to make it look right when going for more realism

[Anonymous No.4482322]

[Anonymous No.4482332]

>>4482217
What resources and courses are you using? I have been wanting to try out Barque, but unsure where to start.

[Anonymous No.4482345]

>>4482109
>Is this a software issue, do I need SAI or Photoshop rather than Krita? Or does it have to do with practice, and if so, what exercises should I do to fix it? I don't know how to draw clothes/accessories, so everything I draw has few lines and little variance in line thickness. Maybe this is why things look off if I can't get body contours exactly right, and I can distract the eye if I added clothes. Would studying that help?

It is not a software issue, it doesn't matter if you do lines on a screen or using a pencil.

To understand lineart think about it like this
"Lines are present where there is a visible hard edge between two values"
Usually these appear as contour lines around objects. Now obviously real life objects do not have lines around them only sudden changes in value. You could also think of it where there is a sharp turn in the form if you want "feel the form memes." It could also be imagined where there is a lot of ambient occlusion since light does not fit there so there will be a change in values.

Studying helps keep at it Anon!

[Anonymous No.4482362]

>>4481254
>tfw Anon is feeling the form

[Anonymous No.4482388]

>>4481522
Looks good keep it up!

[Anonymous No.4482445]

>>4481254
Fourth one on the top left is very nice. Why are your lines so inconsistent between each figure? Trying different brushes?

[Anonymous No.4482447]

>>4481642
basically, your details are confusing things, redlining in trad and overlaying is kind of dumb but here goes.
>big chunk of shadow hides the back of her butt, visibly shortening the leg
>big fold on the left hides the bottom of her thigh. showing it clearly going behind the calf is an easy way to add depth
>big tear on her pants ends up looking like kneecap
>folds should be headed towards the bottom of her kneecap which is causing them
it also looks like you thought about adding the seam, which would have been a good detail to add more info.

[Anonymous No.4482455]

[Anonymous No.4482470]

from ref

[Anonymous No.4482479]

>>4482470
Hi asukaposter

[Anonymous No.4482486]

>>4482479
hello

[Anonymous No.4482493]

can i get some good tentacle tutorials/references? it’s not for porn i swear

[Anonymous No.4482496]

>>4482470
Are you ever going to actually improve or have you found your safe corner of lazy shit?

[Anonymous No.4482500]

>>4482493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Vz_8OSVic

[Anonymous No.4482507]

>>4482496
i dont know what else to do then

[Anonymous No.4482509]

I drew this for someone in the /v/ drawthread, and everyone there tore it for not having any line weight(among other complaints like the shitty fan, long neck, and tits). Where would I add line weight on it?

[Anonymous No.4482512]

>>4482470
>>4482455
based
>>4482500
they're so cute

[Anonymous No.4482513]

Trying to pay more attention to value

[Anonymous No.4482517]

>>4482496
I'd say that Asukafag has improved decently fast by /beg/ standards. You can't expect people to just rocket straight up constantly.

[Anonymous No.4482520]

>>4482509
>worrying about lineweight when the lines aren't right in the first place
please say sike

[Anonymous No.4482522]

>>4482509
The standard advice is you make your lines thicker on surfaces that are covered in more shadow. Just follow the light and shadow based on your light source.
Really you should just feel it though and play around, it's one of the areas of your art where you have a ton of freedom to do whatever.

[Anonymous No.4482535]

>>4482520
>it's written in the rules of art that you CANNOT play around or experiment until you have MASTERED all previous steps
Future Istebrak in the making

[Anonymous No.4482542]

>>4482520
t. boxfag

[Anonymous No.4482566]

>>4482517
He's just about ready to fuck off from /beg/ but he's plateaued just before that and doesn't want to leave.

[Anonymous No.4482567]

I'm really loving these Barque plates. Learning so much about good lines.

[Anonymous No.4482568]

>>4482535
>>4482542
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.4482575]

anon (smug): yeah, i post cringe.

[Anonymous No.4482607]

>>4481085
Probably a lower angle with the overhand grip so the pencil gives a more varied and flowing line than with the upright sharper line of the tripod grip. Besides angle, if you're drawing with your arm and shoulder the actual grip with which your hold your pencil is entirely arbitrary.

[Anonymous No.4482612]

>>4482535
he wasn't asking about playing around and experimenting, he was asking about improving a drawing that got dunked on, and he took bad advice away from /v/.
it's bad because the shape of everything is fucked, not lineweight.

[Anonymous No.4482632]

>>4481047
i don't think paper is easier than digital anon.
paper forces you to get the lines right in one go or risk chicken scratches whereas digital allows unlimited attempts without the chicken stripes

[Anonymous No.4482641]

>>4482568
The right side only looks complicated it's just incredibly boring construction.

[Anonymous No.4482651]

>>4482632
I think generally paper/traditional methods have a natural aesthetic to them, but at this point digital has so many tools that you can basically replicate any aesthetic from trad alongside having an undo button and layers if you know what you're doing

[Anonymous No.4482655]

>>4482568
>le do this before you do this
You can't draw either of them

[Anonymous No.4482660]

>>4482632
unlimited attempts don't really matter when you're not doing something really big.
and shading, gradations-- way easier with a pencil than with a tablet. maybe it's just because i'm more used to it.

[Anonymous No.4482690]

>>4482001
>>4482008
like this?

[Anonymous No.4482697]

Haven't draw in a while.
Got some free time in my work so i just pick a pen. I really liked the result and desing.
There are flaws for sure so whats your thoughts? Maybe ctirique?

[Anonymous No.4482699]

>>4482697
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4482715]

>>4482690
you really just need to work on facial features, proko has some decent guides on youtube but there's always the vid thread if you want to dive deeper

>>4482697
i'm too /beg/ to crit anything above waist, but the perspective on the left leg look weird to me (the one going back). also the balance of the pose looks weak almost like she's about to fall over, but it's hard to tell since can't see feet fully. Other than that I like I think it looks very clean and nice

[Anonymous No.4482720]

>>4482612
I was basically told that because all the lines being the same made it hard to draw the eye to any one thing, made it all blend together. Or is that not right and I should focus on something else?

[Anonymous No.4482746]

>>4482632
>paper forces you to get the lines right in one go or risk chicken scratches
dynamic sketching 1 confuses people so much. thinking about your lines ahead of time and committing to them is a good mindset and training tool, but it's not a physical restriction on working in trad.

[Anonymous No.4482760]

>>4482445
No, they're the same brush, just different sizes, I was using krita so I have a hotkey that toggles it into eraser mode. I figured for exercise it would be ok

[Anonymous No.4482763]

Apart from the line quality what else is fundamentally wrong? #1 was drawn from a reference, #2 was too but from a different angle

[Anonymous No.4482764]

>>4482763

[Anonymous No.4482766]

I tried to be more realistic today. How am i doing so far ?

[Anonymous No.4482772]

>>4482690

[Anonymous No.4482775]

>>4482764
>>4482763
i don't wanna have to be the one to tell you this but essentially everything

take your time to accurately copy your reference if you're already studying it, there is absolutely no reason to go in and draw individual strands of hair when the actual structure beneath it doesn't look right

you're symbol drawing instead of drawing what you see. That's not how eyes look like on a human being, and they're not placed like that except if you have a skull deformity

first nose goes straight out of her forehead
post reference though so we know what went wrong exactly

[Anonymous No.4482778]

>>4482766
not great

[J No.4482781]

Any thoughts? I'm trying to work in my shading and anatomy. But looking carefully I notice that my line work is also weak.

[Anonymous No.4482786]

>>4482715
Yup i see that too, feeling entire pose before puting it on paper is hard part.
Underdrawing would probably let me spot bad balance, but its also good habit to try draw without it i guess.

[Anonymous No.4482787]

>>4482772
something along these lines?

[J No.4482795]

>>4482781

[Anonymous No.4482797]

>>4482766
here is the ref im using

>>4482778
the whole piece or can you point something out ?

[Anonymous No.4482798]

>>4482781
> (2.98 MB, 3120x4160)
> namefag

sigh

you're not doing bad, just that everything looks a bit flatter than it needs to be. the angular/geometric lines add to it

the collarbones and mastoid muscle seem to show that the upper torso is rotated to the left, but her breasts and everything below are all pointing to the right; you might need to re-measure the torso

otherwise please resize :/

[Anonymous No.4482815]

>>4482720
the wavy bits of hair and kimono are reasonable, so is her waist, but that's about it.
she's got no jaw on the left side of her face, her left eye is somehow on top of her ear, the right half/back of her neck is missing, her left index finger isn't attached, her left arm has two elbows or is too long, and so on.

as far as where to start. since it's weebshit a lot of things are forgiveable if you have a cute head, so start by working on that.
hitokaku index/nakamura seichi books(pic related) might be a good start for you for workable animu heads. there's a mega in the /asg/ OP that has them

[Anonymous No.4482823]

i know it's kinda messy, but thoughts? Not from ref, shit at coloring

[Anonymous No.4482830]

[Anonymous No.4482832]

>>4482775
>i don't wanna have to be the one to tell you this but essentially everything
Lol it's fine, that's what I'm here for. Here's the reference. You don't need to point out all the bits that look wrong, I can see them too, I'm more interested in techniques and exercises to not do that again. Won't bother with the second one since I put in less effort, but for what it's worth he has really crap hair irl too

[Anonymous No.4482837]

>>4482787
with faces subtle things make a lot of difference.
keep in mind basics: look for parallels, measure proportions.

[Anonymous No.4482844]

>>4482837
btw, i'm not good.
and i tried to keep the shapes v. simple b/c i didn't want to overwhelm you. the main thing i saw is that the forehead is more so parallel to the cheek than you thought.

[Anonymous No.4482851]

>>4482832

try first blocking out her general face shapes and getting the angles right: notice for example how she doesn't have a straight line from her far cheek to her chin, but it goes down to her jaw, then slightly changes course towards her chin

use a centreline that goes from the top of her forehead down the nose over the mouth to the chin, and gauge how far off you're putting features

don't be afraid to put it in photoshop or any random program with layers, put a 50% opacity grey over her, and use a line tool on a top layer to trace the angles and shapes after you've drawn your ref for the first time
it'll help you see with your hands where you went wrong

[J No.4482853]

>>4482798
Yeah, I wasn't convinced with the torso-head proportion either. Thanks for your help.

Also sorry for the size, I just check the rules, I'll resize if I post other pics

[Anonymous No.4482858]

>>4482853
much better size lol

try to not draw the features in immediately, you're just pasting in eye symbols etc

if anything, find and use generic shadow shapes that represent what you see, not what you know is there, you don't need anything else than that to make a genuinely believable face

[Anonymous No.4482864]

>>4482690
Yes. Now do another 95.

Will redline one later, when I'm home.

[Anonymous No.4482875]

hey guys i fixed a a few things what do guys think?

[Anonymous No.4482878]

>>4482864
k, I will give up on trying facial features for now, I clearly have no clue how to do it

>>4482837
>>4482844
thank you dude

[Anonymous No.4482880]

>>4482878
see:
>>4482851

[Anonymous No.4482895]

>>4482875
post reference?

[Anonymous No.4482905]

[Anonymous No.4482906]

Bridgmaaaaan!

[Anonymous No.4482909]

>>4482905
mm, i too love posting 6 month old images i saved from another thread

[Anonymous No.4482913]

>>4480644
I'm trying to draw without using references, pic related was a 10 min warm up.
I definitely feel like my circles are getting better than the potatoes i was drawing 2 months ago so thats cool.
my lines are still trash though, I'm going through pages of superimposed practice to try and shake the wobble and get more comfortable with my straight ones at least.
I still don't get drawing from the shoulder though, it feels uneconomical to do if all i want is a smaller line that will look better drawn from the elbow anyway.

[Anonymous No.4482915]

fuck, sorry.
I'm trying to draw without using references, pic related was a 10 min warm up.
I definitely feel like my circles are getting better than the potatoes i was drawing 2 months ago so thats cool.
my lines are still trash though, I'm going through pages of superimposed practice to try and shake the wobble and get more comfortable with my straight ones at least.
I still don't get drawing from the shoulder though, it feels uneconomical to do if all i want is a smaller line that will look better drawn from the elbow anyway.

[Anonymous No.4482916]

>>4482909
I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about. If it's the filename, I'm using 4chanX which randomizes filenames of my uploads.

[Anonymous No.4482921]

>>4482880
>>4482880
thanks, it got a bit better

[Anonymous No.4482923]

>>4482915
also, this was my first time trying to implement the ghosting practice stuff

[Anonymous No.4482924]

>>4482470
can you post ur ref

[Anonymous No.4482928]

>>4482916
> 4chanX user
i am; in that case yeah
get out of beg you'll scare the newbies

[Anonymous No.4482935]

>no one ever tells you to get out of beg

[Anonymous No.4482939]

>>4482928
Yeah, but /beg/'s the closest thing we have to a fundies thread. /draw/' s too advanced and /alt/'s not exactly focused on fundies and more on wips or finished works.

[Anonymous No.4482980]

>>4482875
water now I like bit more. ear is transparent film thing

[Anonymous No.4483033]

>>4482935
I know that feel Anon.
Granted I've yet to actually post a colored piece here at all.
I figure it'll happen one day.

[Anonymous No.4483039]

>>4482905
decent, but the ears on the middle two are tripping me up; lower left ear is maybe a bit too far back, top right too low and too narrow?
finish a piece, anon, don't just grind

[Anonymous No.4483064]

>>4483039
Yeah you're right about the ears. Theyre an afterthought so placement and width are off as youve pointed out. Ill definitely do a finished work one of these days. Thanks anom

[Anonymous No.4483096]

>>4480845
>/int/
That's not even the best one. lol

[Anonymous No.4483112]

opinions on moderndayjames?

[Anonymous No.4483158]

>>4482001
that's not me dummy

[Anonymous No.4483168]

Are these colors hard on the eyes?

[Anonymous No.4483215]

[Anonymous No.4483218]

>>4481153
kek

[Anonymous No.4483230]

Did you remember to feel the form today /beg/?

[Anonymous No.4483240]

added some lame hand, totally not what was intended. everything is weird mishmash, head is in another dimension somewhere. but it was interesting and unexpected.

[Anonymous No.4483246]

>>4483240
>в
чo зa хy------

[Anonymous No.4483254]

Anyone have any monitor recommendations? Screenless tablet fag here. Monitors and calibration software recommendations. Everything I paint always looks so different when I view it on my iPad or my pixel phone. I have a pretty budget monitor currently.

Thanks

[Anonymous No.4483257]

>>4483246
Sumerian glyphs

[Anonymous No.4483277]

>>4483240
tits are way too low and no gravity for them like tranny tits

[Anonymous No.4483279]

>>4482895
i used 5 reference images but its on my pc when i get home i will postem

[Anonymous No.4483284]

>>4483240
would fuck her

[Anonymous No.4483290]

>>4483277
have you never seen a woman jump, anon
she is obviously surfing or skateboarding or some other gay flying/falling shit

[Anonymous No.4483303]

>>4483290
>i share the board this this kind of idiots

[Anonymous No.4483308]

>>4483277
>no gravity for them like tranny tits
????????????????????????

[Anonymous No.4483316]

>>4483308
nothing confusing about what he said

[Anonymous No.4483317]

>>4483290
It is based on another anon concept >>4482109

and antigravity was indeed intended effect but too low can also be true. I'm sure it have lot of questionable anatomy

[Anonymous No.4483322]

>>4483303
aside from the fact that you're a weeaboo that has literally never seen a female human in its life, watch the gif closely and examine what gravity does when jumping

[Anonymous No.4483328]

>>4483322
Not that guy but hot damn she reminds me of my balls during a workout session whenever they hang low.

[Anonymous No.4483335]

>>4483316
when trannies have large tits, they don't look particularly firm.
rent free btw

[Anonymous No.4483341]

>>4483322
not only your are stupid but blind too, look at your fucking ref you fucking imbecile, the size is 2 times bigger and they are far higher than those cement tits you fucking ape

[Anonymous No.4483344]

>>4483341
even if school got cancelled, you're still studying right, buddy?

[Anonymous No.4483346]

>>4483335
>d-dont mock the trannies
>r-rent free hehehe

imagine being such a simp for trannies that you need to jump to defend them

[Anonymous No.4483351]

>>4483344
nice argument but what else can you say when you got btfo

[Anonymous No.4483355]

>>4483346
missed your soijack zoomer
bc you have to mention them even when they have nothing to do with anything.
also anti-gravity is a compliment brainlet.

[Anonymous No.4483363]

>>4483341
that's not my drawing lmao copetard

[Anonymous No.4483373]

cement tits ree

[Anonymous No.4483382]

i liked it better when we were posting about the tummy girl

[BCS !aM/SiLoKZA No.4483399]

>>4480644

oh new thread. okay here is a different concept art

[Anonymous No.4483468]

>>4483346
>he doesn't clap tranny cheeks daily
triggered because even they don't want you, huh?

[Anonymous No.4483473]

>>4483322
fuck, real women are disgusting as fuck lmao

[Anonymous No.4483487]

>>4483473
You might be gay, anon.

[Anonymous No.4483500]

>>4482388
How can I improve it? I'm stuck here

[Anonymous No.4483513]

Second time in my life I do architecture

[Anonymous No.4483518]

>>4482772
>>4482787
...could it be?

[Anonymous No.4483544]

>>4480753
>draw sketch
>new layer
>draw sketch with thinner lines and little bit more details
>new layer
>draw lineart with thinner lines and little bit more details
>colors
>purple multiply shadows
>highlights
>cool color dodge layers on top

[Anonymous No.4483593]

Drawing cute things is hard

[Anonymous No.4483656]

How good are resources like sketchdaily and croquis cafe compared to going to an actual life drawing class?

[Anonymous No.4483678]

>>4480720
This happened to me yesterday, today I realized what I was drawing was pretty bad after all..

[Anonymous No.4483711]

>>4483656
Not as good because the geometry is filtered through a camera lens, but they're free, so whatever.

If you're not ultimate sperg or a creep just go out in a public place (.... after the plague passes) and sketch people, you get the benefit of drawing from life with none of the cost.

College campuses are wonderful for this.

[Anonymous No.4483739]

>>4483711
I'm not poor the problem is that I draw more than an hour a day, which is how long I assume the classes are. That sounds like a good idea and yeah I look pretty normal I'm just a short fucker.

[Anonymous No.4483764]

new thread

>>4483761
>>4483761
>>4483761
>>4483761
>>4483761

[Anonymous No.4483773]

>>4483739
>the problem is that I draw more than an hour a day, which is how long I assume the classes are.

my life drawing sessions have always been 4h

and you're allowed to draw at home after that you know

[Anonymous No.4484871]

>>4481889
I fucking hate this mindset so much, here's a newsflash for every /beg/ here, everything you draw for at least the next couple months you're going to fucking hate. Keep your eye on the prize, the end goal, understand that you're going to suck for a while but you WILL improve. Like dude you didn't even finish it, c'mon.