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/asg/ - Anime Study General Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:28:30 2020 No.4459197 [Reply] [Original]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

Make it Stick: The Science of Successful Learning:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=F0581EBF3D1D926E1A67127383C97350

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Effective Art Study Guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Discord:
https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

Previous Thread:
>>4451899

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:38:45 2020 No.4459209 File: 4 KB, 240x240, 1585188507955.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] are these threads worthy of investing my presence?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:44:03 2020 No.4459221 >>4459209 Nope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:51:13 2020 No.4459234 Will drawing from hentai help me with anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 21:57:25 2020 No.4459244 >>4459234 Nope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 22:08:15 2020 No.4459263 File: 164 KB, 1080x1350, 79379851_127514288723011_7112679615509589814_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.instagram.com/braveking_/ https://www.artstation.com/braveking

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 22:13:42 2020 No.4459277 >>4459234 it won't help you learn anatomy, but it's fine for practicing what you've learned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 22:22:13 2020 No.4459295 >>4459197 I miss the grey sketch chad

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 31 22:52:04 2020 No.4459360 File: 1.17 MB, 2152x3068, 1555084558330.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 02:20:26 2020 No.4459848 File: 175 KB, 506x900, 20200401_021719 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tomato

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 02:23:44 2020 No.4459863 >>4459848 could use some loomis

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 02:36:37 2020 No.4459905 >>4459848 >padding bra so much it starts looking lumpy good storyline

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 04:18:47 2020 No.4460217 i think i have a cold

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 04:36:46 2020 No.4460263 File: 1.54 MB, 3000x2000, 3-30-20.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] quarantine is killing my productivity

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 04:53:33 2020 No.4460299 >>4460263 Blog?

>>	A͏͞no̸nym̛ous Wed Apr 1 05:09:34 2020 No.4460319 how are your COUGH studies going guys?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 05:18:15 2020 No.4460329 >>4460319 i haven't draw in a month because my pc broke and i hate traditional drawing

>>	An̴onymo̷͘u͢ş́ Wed Apr 1 05:19:41 2020 No.4460334 >>4460329 you need the COOF ipad pro 12.9 with the apple pencil

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 05:28:24 2020 No.4460347 >>4460334 it sure is the solution to all my problems

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:49:54 2020 No.4460737 >>4460263 This is much better than grey sketch-kun

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:51:09 2020 No.4460740 What a shitty april first..

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 09:57:06 2020 No.4460755 >>4460329 any good tutorial for digital drawing? I'm using CSP.

>>	A͜n̶̵o͘nymo̧ù͘ś͝͠ Wed Apr 1 11:02:12 2020 No.4460864 >>4460755 you have not even seen my work, i don't think i'm worth giving any type of advice, but all i can say is read the op resouces and you will find a lot of tutorials

>>	Ąn̛on̶y̛m̴̢o̡͞u̡s͟ Wed Apr 1 11:56:40 2020 No.4460929 >>4460334 >ipad pro 12.9 with the apple pencil cringe

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 15:39:21 2020 No.4461297

>Make it Stick: The Science of Successful Learning
I've been reading this book. The ways for effective practice is interleaving and spacing.

So for example I'm trying to copy a piece of art I like. Could interleaving be drawing the body pose for day, next day focus on the face, third day focus on the colours?

Also I've found forcing myself to draw from immagination has helped.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 15:58:50 2020 No.4461333 >>4461297 >wasting your time reading some pseudoscience about how to learn instead of just learning ngmi

>>	Ąn̶̵͢on͟ý̨m̴o͜us͠ Wed Apr 1 16:23:08 2020 No.4461362 I DONT WANT AN IPAD I DONT WANT A SHITTY NO-SCREEN TABLET I DONT WANT TRADITIONAL GIMME MY HUIONBUX ALREADY MR. PRESIDENT I NEED A 20 INCH HUION OR I'LL RIOT

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 16:27:56 2020 No.4461370 >4461362 Huion is shit.

>>	Anoń̷y͝m̷̀͢ǫ͘͝us̷ Wed Apr 1 16:29:55 2020 No.4461375 >>4461370 I aint paying 2.5k for a display anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 16:43:11 2020 No.4461393 GREY SKETCH KUN? ARE YOU OKAY?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 17:37:47 2020 No.4461509 >>4461393 some of his shitposts were deleted on the last thread, so the schizo tranny probably is banned be grateful for that

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 17:38:34 2020 No.4461514 File: 563 KB, 847x1248, 1556349970588.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does this deserves 40k likes

>>	A͏̢n͏͘on̴yḿo͡u͞s̶͠ Wed Apr 1 17:40:58 2020 No.4461518 >>4461509 Thank god.

>>	Á̛͞n̴͜on͘͠y̷móus͝ Wed Apr 1 19:46:43 2020 No.4461705 >>4461514 it deserves more

>>	A̶n͡͡o͠n̶ym͞ò̧͏us̶ Wed Apr 1 19:57:38 2020 No.4461716 >now I can't post my work without being afraid of getting banned. Thanks crabs, I was starting to git gud but now I'll give up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 20:00:38 2020 No.4461723 >grey sketch tranny is giving up Hallelujah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 20:01:46 2020 No.4461725 I was gonna do that but after the first drawing looked like shit I got like super depressed and can't find motivation to draw anymore

>>	A̶no̡ny̴͠m̨ou͝s Wed Apr 1 20:47:22 2020 No.4461827 File: 92 KB, 760x614, imperial_knight_thumbs_up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4461514 >40k likes For The Emperor!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 20:49:40 2020 No.4461835 File: 1.00 MB, 1000x1180, DoD3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4460319 I did this one today

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:00:27 2020 No.4461848 File: 122 KB, 1192x550, 1583004474965.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >4460319 Bad, still can't understand gaysture

>>	An͠on͏҉ymou͞s Wed Apr 1 21:24:42 2020 No.4461890 File: 1.09 MB, 3024x4032, 1584532136640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How long do I have to practice perspective stuff before going trough anime artbooks and studying them? I get sleepy and bored after drawing perspective for hours...

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:27:54 2020 No.4461900

Looking for any or all of these. I figured I'd check to see if anyone here has them.
Relax & Lazy Poses Catalog Vol. 1 - Men & Women Reference Book
Relax & Lazy Poses Catalog Vol. 2 - Suited Men & High School Students Reference Book
Relax & Lazy Poses Catalog Vol. 4 - Office Life Reference Book

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:28:15 2020 No.4461901 >>4461835 sick, anon.

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:28:44 2020 No.4461903

>>4460929
>he's poor

>>4461835
looking *COOF* good anon

>>4461890
how long do you HAVE to? zero hours. how long should you? until you understand the very basics. i think if you draw and just keep perspective in mind, that will be enough. it's only people who are completely unaware of what perspective even is that don't steadily improve

>>	A҉n͏onymoú̸s Wed Apr 1 21:29:21 2020 No.4461905 File: 2 KB, 60x125, 1585701698827s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4461890 >tfw i never ever readed any perspective book and im above begtier i wuold tell you non but since you are asking... just keep it up

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:29:46 2020 No.4461906 >>4461903 hey, my covid went away! i'm cured!

An̕҉on̴ymous̵ Wed Apr 1 21:34:11 2020 No.4461914
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>>4461835
uncanny anatomy the neck is too long or the perspective is off there, her arms are too long or her lower body is weirdly large , you can see her hips and ass amost at the same level of her forearm,elbow.nice colors tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:36:49 2020 No.4461924 >>4461914 while you might be right about the neck on that one, you are wrong about the elbow thing. if you look at both arms you'll notice its loose cloth not the actual limb

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:40:01 2020 No.4461930 >>4460263 blog?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:40:06 2020 No.4461931 >>4461914 PYW

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:48:18 2020 No.4461959 File: 39 KB, 374x347, 1569862147151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4460263 >get good 50 you can illustrate my novels

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:49:17 2020 No.4461963 Alright, guess I'll stop doing perspective study and finally get to drawing anime like I always wanted.

>>	Ano͠n̶y̕m҉̸ous̀ Wed Apr 1 21:50:10 2020 No.4461967 File: 67 KB, 736x736, img-e1f7460fa66250dfd37f3cdfd47e8cd3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do they shade with purple but still keep it from being eye burning? It's so colorful and lively, but when I do it its oversaturation hell.

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:57:27 2020 No.4461985

>>4460993
Artist mom let me try her old paints out when I was in high school, I was playing around with watercolors and acrylics, and wanted to try them, so she showed me the basics, and I did a couple of paintings. When i took an oil class in college I already knew most of the material for the class, but really appreciated the stuff about prepping canvases and mixing glazes, and more in-depth info on brushes and how to use them.

>>	An͡ǫņ̴͡ymo̢͠͡u̴s̸ Wed Apr 1 21:57:33 2020 No.4461986 File: 120 KB, 1600x2000, terrible.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ultra /beg/fag here first time

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:58:20 2020 No.4461987 nice bait coofer

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 21:58:30 2020 No.4461988 File: 560 KB, 1000x1180, vokmp0o1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4461924 what do you see? this is what i see i redline of yours would be great maybe im missing something

>>	A̡n̢͞o̴n̸͘͝y͜͠m̴ous Wed Apr 1 22:04:32 2020 No.4462000 >>4461987 >coofer Not bait

>>	Anơ̴ņ͟y͝҉̛͘mou҉s̡ Wed Apr 1 22:05:15 2020 No.4462001 >>4461986 based gmi

An̵onym̡ous Wed Apr 1 22:12:27 2020 No.4462018

>>4461988
ah i see what you were getting at now. I think it is just the perspective on the right arm being off.

I was talking about the left arm not the right. i figured you were looking at the contour of the drapery on the left arm as though it were the limb itself. it seems that we were simply talking about different things.

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 22:22:18 2020 No.4462043
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>>4461988
OP here, it's the ref from the study
Seeing now I think the arm is really weird.
I was kind of inattentive with the sketch because the main purpose of the study was to try to color from greyscale. If you are the same person who helped me with my previous original work thanks, do you have a blog or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 22:27:37 2020 No.4462058 >>4461903 pyw

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 22:44:42 2020 No.4462091 no you post yours first

Anonymous Wed Apr 1 23:07:47 2020 No.4462148
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>>4462043
>>4462043
if you see the outline of her body you can tell how heavily stylized is the body her legs are larger so it balance the arms too , but it's really long regardless, and your pic was cropped so it looked even off , its like raita,bayonetta body type.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 1 23:29:55 2020 No.4462178 File: 94 KB, 618x739, 1562356417711.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm done with perspective fuck boxes and fuck turtles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 00:05:59 2020 No.4462237 File: 3.00 MB, 2480x3508, 1565022471018.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finished my first ever polished turd.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 00:08:56 2020 No.4462240 >>4462237 soul

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 00:16:29 2020 No.4462249 >>4462237 cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 00:30:16 2020 No.4462267 >>4462249 >>4462240 thanks for the kind words anons, I'll keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 00:33:10 2020 No.4462272 >>4462237 this has to be bait.

>>	Ąn̸̨o̵̴͠n̶̕ymou̢s̵ Thu Apr 2 00:38:01 2020 No.4462275 >>4462237 based, gmi, soul, etc.

>>	A͜no̶͝n̷͡ymo҉ư̡s̨҉ Thu Apr 2 02:23:01 2020 No.4462377 File: 131 KB, 1151x1363, needsloomis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4462091 ok

>>	An̷̸o͠n͠y͢mou̵̸s̷ Thu Apr 2 02:25:14 2020 No.4462380 File: 299 KB, 1908x1041, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4462377 what the hell this is mine fuck you imposter

>>	A͝͡n͜͠o̴͠n̵y̧mơ̢us Thu Apr 2 02:35:08 2020 No.4462387 >>4462380 I saw it here first: >>4461338

>>	A̧n̕ó̶͞nymou͟s Thu Apr 2 02:38:47 2020 No.4462388 >>4462387 oh. I posted that in one of these threads. glad to know someone was butthurt enough to make it the op for a /beg/ thread lmao. Also people seem to recognize me but I don't really post that much, do I have a unique style or something???

>>	A͢͠҉ņo͟n̛y̧͏mo͏u͘s Thu Apr 2 02:42:16 2020 No.4462395 File: 407 KB, 1366x768, imposter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4462380 Liar. I was the one that drew it first using microsoft paint.

>>	Ano̸n̕͝y̴m̶̧͡o͜ùs̵ Thu Apr 2 02:43:36 2020 No.4462398 >>4462388 >glad to know someone was butthurt enough to make it the op for a /beg/ thread You must be fun at parties. I think it fitst /beg quite nicely tho

An̨ony̵m̶o͝͏͡us Thu Apr 2 02:46:37 2020 No.4462405
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>>4462395
note the date created... btfo'd
>>4462398
I say butthurt because I originally posted it in response to getting "pyw'd" after spamming "loomis" and I got 50 billion you's for how shit it is
>you must be fun at parties
hello r*ddit

>>	An̶҉̴o̶ny̢͟m̨̧̀ous̛ Thu Apr 2 02:47:41 2020 No.4462407 >>4462405 Dude chill it was just an april fools joke.

>>	A͏no͜ńý̨m̧ous Thu Apr 2 02:49:22 2020 No.4462410 >>4462407 erm... its april 2nd... awkward turtle

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 02:49:32 2020 No.4462411 File: 1.36 MB, 2202x4080, 181001a04у.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	A͜n̶̢̧o͏n̡ym̕oų͜͡s Thu Apr 2 02:50:01 2020 No.4462412 >>4462410 Not where I live.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 02:50:07 2020 No.4462413 File: 491 KB, 1910x2890, 20200321110037154.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Ano̸n͘͞y̴ḿ̷̕o̵u͘͡s Thu Apr 2 02:51:41 2020 No.4462415 File: 31 KB, 601x508, Iamfine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4462388 >>. glad to know someone was butthurt enough to make it the op for a /beg/ thread lmao.

>>	Ano̴̡n͠y͢m͜ou̷s Thu Apr 2 02:51:47 2020 No.4462416 File: 24 KB, 1611x408, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4462412

>>	Aņ̨onym̡o̷u͞͏s Thu Apr 2 02:53:29 2020 No.4462418 >>4462415 see >>4462405 it seems you are the one who is mad. I'm glad I'm getting some /ic/ notoriety in my otherwise pathetic life

>>	Aņ̶̴͞o͏͏ńymou͝s͢͡ Thu Apr 2 02:53:51 2020 No.4462419 >>4462416 I mean 4chan's prank is still up. The world has different timezones, dude.

>>	A͡no̕n͏y̛moùs͢ Thu Apr 2 02:57:09 2020 No.4462424 >>4462419 woah what, what the fuck are time zones

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 08:08:10 2020 No.4462768 >>4462058 >8

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 08:39:56 2020 No.4462799 >>4462058 Can’t, furry is banned

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 14:52:05 2020 No.4463407 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRM4UkaiCtE

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 15:19:23 2020 No.4463449 >>4462799 based

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:10:13 2020 No.4463548 >>4462799 post it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:16:51 2020 No.4463566 >>4463407 based

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:17:35 2020 No.4463568 >>4463566 based on what

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:18:28 2020 No.4463570 >>4463568 He is just samefagging. Nobody thinks fur crap is based.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:18:43 2020 No.4463571 Did grey sketch kun finally not make it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:19:56 2020 No.4463573 >>4463568 based on me, the most based of them all

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:20:01 2020 No.4463574 >>4463571 He got banned and gave up last thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 16:37:19 2020 No.4463633 >>4463571 I think corona-chan killed him

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 17:50:33 2020 No.4463809 >>4463571 whos that? post his work

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:28:33 2020 No.4463912 File: 38 KB, 730x774, sai.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463809

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:29:31 2020 No.4463915 File: 993 KB, 250x250, 1584014258195.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463912

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:31:12 2020 No.4463922 >>4463912 How did you get so good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:34:00 2020 No.4463933 >>4463922 practice fundies every day. Don't copy unless you want to end up like >>4462413 >>4462411 >>4461986 >>4461848

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:35:31 2020 No.4463939 >>4463933 Pyw

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:39:18 2020 No.4463957 File: 29 KB, 503x774, sai.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463939

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:41:05 2020 No.4463966 Chad turd polisher vs Virgin Sketch-hell resident

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:43:29 2020 No.4463973 File: 17 KB, 533x700, 2020-04-02 15-42-40.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463912 no, I'm the real grey poster

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:43:34 2020 No.4463974 >>4459360 daisuke ishiwatari?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:46:07 2020 No.4463985 >>4463974 yes, is me son.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:46:08 2020 No.4463986 File: 15 KB, 700x533, 1585867409724.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463973 no i'm grey poster

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:47:11 2020 No.4463991 File: 11 KB, 400x400, 1556763951701.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stop larping as me please

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:47:28 2020 No.4463992 >>4463912 >>4463957 >>4463973 >>4463986 >>4463991 >>4456450 >tfw the real grey sketch kun is still better than his imitators

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:47:47 2020 No.4463995 File: 9 KB, 726x774, sai.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463991 Your lines are too dark to be me

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:48:49 2020 No.4463999 >>4463992 pyw

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:49:53 2020 No.4464003 File: 2 KB, 518x655, work.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463999

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:50:43 2020 No.4464006 >>4464003 How do I get as good as you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:51:39 2020 No.4464009 >>4464006 don't use loomis and draw from imagination all the time as you can see my imagination is very vivid

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:51:40 2020 No.4464010 >>4464003 ah so >>4463992 is just grey guy larping as someone else. you can fool us grey anon. only you would post work so light it could hardly be called work

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 18:54:49 2020 No.4464020

>>4464006
Every line has to show how insecure I feel about my imagination by making just a few strokes and making the lines as light as possible so my errors aren't as visible as possible.

Also, only spend 10 seconds per day drawing every sketch I will be posting throughout the day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:31:02 2020 No.4464080 File: 190 KB, 800x726, 1565509081088.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463992 "grey sketch kun" is likely "gmi anon" (behind pic related) trolling the threads by only posting art he made with his left hand

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:39:17 2020 No.4464095 >>4464080 Why is it likely?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:46:51 2020 No.4464105 >>4463548 You just want me banned

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:52:37 2020 No.4464121 >>4464095 "grey sketch kun" is definitely "gmi anon" trolling the threads by only posting art he made with his left hand

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:53:31 2020 No.4464125 >>4464121 You just repeated yourself. I'm asking, why is it likely?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 19:53:52 2020 No.4464126 >>4463933 >quote fundie >think it's copying Thanks for proving I'm doing ok

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 20:37:25 2020 No.4464202 >>4464080 >>4464121 retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 20:48:02 2020 No.4464238 >>4464095 >>4464125 >>4464202 You're being so weird, can't you tell I wasn't being serious?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 20:58:44 2020 No.4464266 Does anyone know any good anime references for women's face while they are in pain? Screaming, crying, or in intense agony.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 21:00:29 2020 No.4464269 File: 394 KB, 1261x1305, 1584817354005.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4464238

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 21:08:42 2020 No.4464289 >>4464266 >tag:guro

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 21:11:04 2020 No.4464293 >>4464289 what's tag:guro?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 21:12:55 2020 No.4464302 File: 100 KB, 1518x612, ngmi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4464269

Anonymous Thu Apr 2 21:42:31 2020 No.4464372

>>4464266
He means you should search for guro genre drawings on your favorite anime art website, while not all of them portray agony you should have much difficulty in finding some that do

This erikku_(kata235) guy does some nice stuff
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3743004

Note that posting guro in 4chan is against the global rules so I can't post it that's why I linked instead

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 21:53:16 2020 No.4464393 >>4464302 punches your dumb face

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:26:15 2020 No.4464447 May I draw anime if I'm left handed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:28:56 2020 No.4464452 >>4464447 No sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:29:41 2020 No.4464453 >>4464452 Thank you for a reply.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:38:59 2020 No.4464465 >>4464372 >out of ammo >she's still in fear anyways What

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 2 22:47:05 2020 No.4464470 >>4464393 owie uwu Actually I wonder why more artists don't try the left hand vs right hand gimmick on art websites

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 02:32:33 2020 No.4464725 >>4463574 why would he get banned? I doubt he posted CP which is the only way you can get banned in this shithole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:00:10 2020 No.4464743 >>4460263 >get good 50

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:01:29 2020 No.4464744 anime is bad for both the soul and body

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:07:19 2020 No.4464752 >>4464725 for being a dumbfuck and trolling also he gave a lot of false advice. you really shouldn't give any type of advice when you consider yourself as a beg

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:13:47 2020 No.4464757 >>4464752 pyw, he was way better than anyone here bar a few I'm 100% certain you're not able to output in 10 seconds a drawing of comparable quality

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:15:11 2020 No.4464759 >>4464757 >t. grey sketch kun

>>	Popsik Fri Apr 3 03:27:22 2020 No.4464769 File: 523 KB, 980x1080, d9gz3fh-aa9ааа.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4463933 pls no bully

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:27:54 2020 No.4464771 >>4464752 eh the guy that spams Loomis is more annoying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 03:32:09 2020 No.4464777 >>4464769 Just clean your lines and you get a 10/10

>>	Popsik Fri Apr 3 03:36:53 2020 No.4464781 Guys do i need add link in my draws for twitter and main blog to gather auditory ? never did that before, it works ?

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 04:37:44 2020 No.4464845

>>4464757
unfortunately, my pc broke more than a month ago and i haven't draw anything since then (i have posted some of my works in previous threats tho), and for your dumbass: i've never said i'm better than grey sketch fag, i'm also a beg but the difference between me and that pile of autism is that i don't claim to have the "best" studying methods neither i look down to everyone that post his art here

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 05:26:06 2020 No.4464911 >>4464845 LOL.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 05:49:52 2020 No.4464951 >>4464757 No one cares what you can draw in 10 seconds. Only your actual work matters. Grey sketch tranny admits that he has no work beyond the 10 second sketches so he basically gets an automatic zero, everyone elae ranks above him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 06:04:28 2020 No.4464976 >>4460263 This is great. But your handwriting man, it's gorgeous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 07:11:04 2020 No.4465083 >>4464771 But less harmful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 07:54:15 2020 No.4465141 >>4460263 I'm jealous of your handwriting. Did you actually study Loomis' books?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 07:59:08 2020 No.4465152 >>4464771 Who? Are you talking about that squid loli guy who drops by here every so often?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 08:43:32 2020 No.4465224 I’m so fucking slow, god damn it takes me so long to do a simple study

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:35:01 2020 No.4465306 >>4464845 Sure kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:37:16 2020 No.4465308 >>4465224 I feel you bro. Know that you will get faster over time. It's one of the things that improves from Just Drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:52:36 2020 No.4465337 Am I a faggot if I don't like anime/manga but enjoy their style?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:53:45 2020 No.4465338 >>4465337 Go to >>4446619 and ask

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:54:14 2020 No.4465339 >>4465308 Thanks bro. We’re alll gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 09:54:53 2020 No.4465340 File: 146 KB, 537x452, 1566043038627.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4465338 My apologies. I'll sage and leave.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 10:49:10 2020 No.4465431 >>4465340 Bye fag

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 10:54:51 2020 No.4465440 >>4465340 I wanna fugg Wendy

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 11:09:55 2020 No.4465462

>>4464725
desu you should rightfully be banned from /ic/ if you continuously thumb your nose at everyone trying to provide feedback, he is essentially muh style personified with everything that you can go wrong with as an aspiring artist. Imagine investing time and effort trying to explain to someone in great detail so they can turn back and say nu-uh! this isn't written in muh japanese anmay moonrunes therefore your comments are invalidated! Worst of all this insufferable prick has continued to draw in the same exact incoherent and incomplete manner for years now which just goes to show that he is not here to grow instead he's here to disrupt and continue to be a nuisance for everybody that has tried to help him. Good riddance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 11:27:58 2020 No.4465491 >>4465340 C-Cute

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 11:42:12 2020 No.4465514 >>4465462 If he’s banned then 3/4 of this shit board should be too. Nearly every poster breaks 2-3 rules on a daily basis.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 11:43:49 2020 No.4465519 >>4465514 Hence posting your work when prompted to is essential and failure to do so only goes to show you're here to shitpost. You faggots are not even hiding that fact anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 11:59:35 2020 No.4465534 >>4465519 Follow your own advice, dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:01:35 2020 No.4465539 >>4465519 >Hence [...] What do you mean? Doesn't seem like a logical conclusion

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:04:30 2020 No.4465542 >>4465539 Conclusion: Post your work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:05:36 2020 No.4465544 >>4465542 Yes that was your conclusion but it doesn't seem logical. Why do you use the word "hence"? As far as I know, /ic/ has no rules regulating pyw challenges.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:07:48 2020 No.4465548

>>4465544
Therefore posting your work would conclude that you're not just here to shitpost and are actually drawing. There needs to be no explanation it is simple either you're drawing or you're not and if you post the merc_wip that only highlights your shitposts and whatever that came out from your mouth can be reasonably disregarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:11:24 2020 No.4465552 >>4465548 Why don’t you start first?

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:11:35 2020 No.4465553

>>4465548
>posting your work would conclude that you're not just here to shitpost and are actually drawing.
That doesn't really make sense to me. You seem to be saying that I can tell anybody to post work and if they don't comply they're a shitposter who gets b&.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:14:42 2020 No.4465555
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>>4465553
>You seem to be saying that I can tell anybody to post work and if they don't comply they're a shitposter
You've said it yourself, 3/4 of this board and nearly every poster breaks 2-3 rules on a daily basis.
>>4465552

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:22:18 2020 No.4465566

>>4465555
>You've said it yourself, 3/4 of this board and nearly every poster breaks 2-3 rules on a daily basis.
What did I say? I know I didn't say that 3/4 of this board and nearly every poster breaks 2-3 rules on a daily basis. Again, as far as I know, /ic/ has no rules regulating pyw challenges, and categorically branding people who don't post work shitposters is unreasonable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:24:54 2020 No.4465569 >>4465566 >>4465514

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:25:26 2020 No.4465570 File: 142 KB, 781x261, 3309EBD1-8480-46EF-9DAE-F74953745ACC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4465566 I’m the anon that said that. >>4465555 ....mikufag?

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:28:55 2020 No.4465573

>>4465569
>>4465570
u wot? Anyway, my own opinion is that grey sketch fag should be allowed to exist here. If the anons posting on this board were high quality, belligerent people like grey sketch fag would get 0 replies. /ic/ force feeds him (You)s and treats him like a celebrity instead of a nuisance so /ic/ gets what it deserves.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:34:07 2020 No.4465585

>>4465573
I get where you're coming from, but how much is enough when somebody blatantly announces that they are not here to receive critique not with words but with actions. You and I both know that faggot has never once completed a finished product, has not taken into consideration any of the feedback he's been given, insists on continuing to draw in his own safespace bubble and the post from a couple of threads expresses his issue perfectly by giving an example of how this guy keeps practicing the same note over and over again until he perfects it. If that is the case, what is he doing here in the first place if his intentions are to remain at the same level he was years ago?

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 12:40:33 2020 No.4465595

>>4465585
I understand you too and I think I went a bit too far: there have been instances where grey sketch fag has denounced copying in very clear terms, in this very thread. No matter what you think about copying, it's one of the main points of this thread; when he does that in this thread he should be banned for off-topic content/trolling. That said, people giving a bunch of replies to autists deserve what they get imo

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 14:26:48 2020 No.4465834 >>4464725 >which is the only way you can get banned in this shithole I got banned the other day because I talked shit about another ''artist''

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 14:31:39 2020 No.4465849 File: 32 KB, 577x203, asdad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4465834 Good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 14:38:06 2020 No.4465870 >>4465849 S-sorry

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 15:43:03 2020 No.4466003 to be honest anyone who criticize anyone else's work really should phw

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 15:44:21 2020 No.4466005 >>4466003 We’ve already learned every critposter here is worse than grey sketch so there’s no point anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:05:09 2020 No.4466070 File: 1.35 MB, 1080x768, 1585935227216.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4459197 Is this good art or ngmi?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:08:41 2020 No.4466076 >>4466070 chapter already out? link please

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:14:24 2020 No.4466090 >>4466005 Oh, well damn man, so where do I go for good critique of my shit works

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:16:30 2020 No.4466096 >>4466070 He gmi years ago

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:16:59 2020 No.4466099 >>4466090 DA has a unique built in critique platform but it is only for members that pay for a subscription :^)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:17:49 2020 No.4466102 >>4466070 Obviously ngmi

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:17:56 2020 No.4466103 >>4466099 >DA I'd rather still trust you guys instead

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:25:07 2020 No.4466125 File: 2.43 MB, 1407x1000, 1585935363235.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4466076 https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/13933686331618368656

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 16:32:37 2020 No.4466144 File: 418 KB, 680x680, 1585941128634.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4466125

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 17:28:54 2020 No.4466280 File: 1.21 MB, 1452x1037, 20200330.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4464080 >>4464121 please don't slander me

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 17:43:49 2020 No.4466315 >>4466280 Hnng so jealous

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 17:44:48 2020 No.4466317 >>4461514 tits too big

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 17:46:39 2020 No.4466322 >>4466280 where have you been you big doof don't u know we're all supposed to ngmi? and you're out there busy practicing, baka

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:11:44 2020 No.4466370 >>4466323 Another nice one again grey sketch, nice

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:14:32 2020 No.4466378 File: 31 KB, 447x579, sai2_2020-04-03_21-43-12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:17:04 2020 No.4466380 /Asg/: >>4466280 Expectation >>4462377 Reality

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:32:55 2020 No.4466407 Why do I feel like all my brushes are trash

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:42:24 2020 No.4466425 >>4466407 It's not the brush. It's how you use it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:45:33 2020 No.4466431 File: 472 KB, 1280x1280, 14364567.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4466099 >deviantart critiques

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 18:56:09 2020 No.4466446 >>4466431 is that motherfucking krenz on the bottom right ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:01:38 2020 No.4466459 >>4466280 Who are you and how long did this take you to reach this level

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:02:22 2020 No.4466462 >>4465340 Yup, definitely a faggot.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:26:01 2020 No.4466509

>>4466459
if this is who I think it is he answered it in an old thread before:

"in the last 18 months i've probably skimmed through all the resources that /ic/ talks about. these are the ones i chose to spend time with, in chronological order:
keys to drawing
watt's atelier video lessons
scott robertson's how to draw
scott eaton's anatomy
eric olson's perspective lectures
hitokaku
i'm definitely not saying that these are the ideal resources, and i'm certain that the order was suboptimal. i say this because i know that /ic/ is stupidly obsessed with minmaxing the optimal path. also i'll mention that i'm kind of a shitbag and i didn't fully complete any one of these, i just jumped ship when i thought i got what i needed. if there's anything else in particular you want specifics on, just let me know."

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:28:51 2020 No.4466514 >>4466509 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 19:37:24 2020 No.4466528 >>4466509 >watt's atelier video lessons >scott eaton's anatomy >eric olson's perspective lectures How good are they? They never seem to be available in the vid thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 20:00:06 2020 No.4466578 >>4466509 Any list like this but for rendering btw?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 20:14:31 2020 No.4466611 >>4466578 >>4466528 dunno, I'm not that anon. you can check the archive and see if they talked about it: https://yuki.la/search.html?boards=ic&startdate=2008-02-02&enddate=2020-03-29&sort=descending&subject=%2fasg%2f#page=2

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 20:49:50 2020 No.4466681 >>4466380 lol so true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 21:18:22 2020 No.4466736 Best book for figure drawing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 21:23:30 2020 No.4466747 >>4466280 GMI Teach me senpai, what brush setting you use? I'm using CSP and I'm completely new into digital. What canvas setting I should use for illust? A4? Also, what different between raster and vector layers? Which layers should I use?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 21:30:03 2020 No.4466755 >>4466280 You have some talent.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 21:42:00 2020 No.4466777 >>4466280 Are you the Norwegian guy?

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:09:05 2020 No.4466826

>>4466322
i dipped out during the meaningless war of fundies vs copying and the disappointing subsequent reign of grey sketch anon. i hope you anons are doing well, the ones that are really trying instead of arguing
>>4466459
i used to be hitokaku poster but some kind anons started calling me gmi anon. it's been about 2.5 years
>>4466509
hey you got it! that's my post! it's probably time to leave when people start recognizing you, i think
>>4466528
i owe a lot of my progress to those resources, man i'm really lucky to live in a time where i have access to that
>>4466747
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1711220
i use the first brush in this pack (さらぺん), i didn’t really mess with the settings. stabilization 0. it has a lot of behavioral similarities to microns, which i really enjoy using. don't worry about the a4 stuff unless you're printing your work, because you also have to take dpi into account. if you're just starting out, i would just open a canvas that's around 2000 pixels in each dimension and start sketching. lower the resolution if your computer is slowing down, raise the resolution if you find that the pixels are too large. use raster layers until you know what you're doing
>>4466380
>>4466315
>>4466755
thanks for the (you)s anons
>>4466777
nope

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:12:51 2020 No.4466834 [DELETED]

Hey, I've known about these thread for quite sometime but never really posted here. Is it fine for more advanced anime-styled artists to post here? I feel I am somewhat more advanced than some anons here but I try my best to make it appear as it's drawn by an eastern as much as possible with some little tidbits of my own to make it appear a bit different. If that makes sense? But I feel a bit self-conscious about how my drawings look and feel they miss the mark to make it appear more eastern sometimes.

Would it still be okay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:13:45 2020 No.4466837 File: 331 KB, 839x1159, Comic121.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] work in progress

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:19:48 2020 No.4466845 File: 1.04 MB, 1200x1563, werk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4466834 >I feel I am somewhat more advanced than some anons here okay but you most top this first

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:50:43 2020 No.4466889 File: 325 KB, 1071x924, figure study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] learning more figure drawing, finished a challenge for 100 doujin drawings these days, I think my next challenge will be 100 digital portraits...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:54:36 2020 No.4466893 >>4466834 The real question is why do you feel the want or need to post here if you're more advanced than every single person here? Do you believe we who just want to bring everyone down to our level will be able to help you?

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 22:58:10 2020 No.4466896 [DELETED]

>>4466893
Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my initial post but regardless of my skill level, I'm still learning just as everyone else here. Especially since I would like for my works to appear more like it's drawn by an Eastern person.

While I don't think I'm more advanced than everyone here, I feel that I do understand a bit more than some people that post here. I just ask if it's fine to post and seek advice here and there and not have it be taken in the wrong way by some people.

Does it a bit more sense?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:00:39 2020 No.4466900 >>4466896 Sure that makes sense. Stay if you want, but if you can't take the heat, you can leave too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:06:35 2020 No.4466914 >>4466900 >heat lmao you are all /beg/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:07:03 2020 No.4466915 >>4466896 Not to be blunt but do whatever you want anon. If you post something great, people will praise you and some will despite you out of jealousy, it's normal. Take advices, opinions and critiques always with a grain of salt.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:11:46 2020 No.4466932 [DELETED]

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>>4466915
>>4466900
Alright, thanks.

This is something I've been working on, on and off, for a bit. It is for an acquaintance of mine who is a fan of Jahy-sama -- a character I'm not really familiar of. There are still things I need to improve on and fix (such as the straps, for example. As Jahy's straps are not quite like this).
I'm trying to be more conscious of my lines as well. Perhaps I may also paint over this afterwards.
What do you guys think so far?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:12:50 2020 No.4466935 >>4466932 How do I get as good as you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:14:40 2020 No.4466939 File: 28 KB, 800x450, PRESSX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4466834 >? I feel I am somewhat more advanced than some anons

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:15:32 2020 No.4466942 >>4466932 Hands are expressive and the face is fantastic, but the lower half is looking wonky.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:15:40 2020 No.4466943 [DELETED]

>>4466932
Also, to add, I know the ear is messed up and I will improve it later on. For now, I am focusing on the body.

>>4466935
I'm not quite sure how to respond to that, really. Other than focusing a lot on the lines/line-weight and drawing something over and over until it looks alright. I'm sorry I am not very helpful, but I feel improving my linework (even though I am still imperfect at it) helped me over time.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:17:35 2020 No.4466953 [DELETED]

>>4466942
Oh, I'm not done with the lower half of the body at all yet. If it makes sense, I try to make a bit of a "base" for me to draw over an improve. That is why it lacks detail and is much more loose. Is there anything about it that I need to fix right now? A redline would be much appreciated.

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:19:30 2020 No.4466958

>>4466932
IMO nice lineart; arms, hands, face, breasts look good. But the foreshortening of the torso looks really weird. Did you use a reference for the pose? Maybe it's just me not being all too accostumed with THICC girls.

Also maybe tone down a bit the shading of the neck?

Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:22:28 2020 No.4466963 [DELETED]

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>>4466958
Oh, I didn't really use a reference for the pose. My intention was to have a bit of an exaggerated pose where she's leaning over with her arms up. The issue is that I'm not really sure how to make the area around the torso look alright as I've never really done a pose like this before.

As for the neck, Jahy-sama apparently has that black strap on her neck

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 3 23:47:46 2020 No.4467039 File: 403 KB, 631x1000, fug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When drawing hair should I start from the root and make my way down? I usually start with the bangs and move outwards. /beg/ tier sketch coming through.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:36:15 2020 No.4467107
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>>4466932
it's really nice, i especially like the way you did the black and white hair rendering. just some minor perspective things i would sort out. if you're having issues thinking through the hip area, try drawing through the form around the back (done in red). some more minor things: middle finger might be missing a knuckle, collar ring perspective

i'm glad you posted this, it would be a nice change of pace for this thread to have more posts with this sort of effort

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:45:03 2020 No.4467131
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>>4467039
yeah, try to think about the point of origin for hair. most beginner drawings have issues when it comes to that, but i can see you've thought it through in the one you posted
pic related shows all the hair comes from the root. pic from pin2d youtube channel

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 00:47:24 2020 No.4467135 [DELETED]

>>4467107
Oh, thank you so much for the redline, I like it quite a bit! I will try improving it whenever I post a new progress. And thanks for changing the collar ring and the straps a bit. I wasn't sure how to draw that at all since I don't draw those sorts of clothes but you helped give me an idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:13:47 2020 No.4467157 >>4467131 Thanks man, I figured I was doing it backwards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 01:48:37 2020 No.4467203 >>4467107 dipshit know it all redliner strikes again lmfao the redline you did is fucking unreadable shithead

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 05:53:34 2020 No.4467395 >>4466932 Are you a copyfag or a fundiesfag ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 05:57:35 2020 No.4467402 >>4467395 >not reading the rest of his posts and how he didn't even use a reference He's a fundiesfag.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:19:43 2020 No.4467425

>>4466826
>it's probably time to leave when people start recognizing you
nah, you should stick around gmi-anon. If you only post studies from time to time on here and no personal work, you'll probably still be lowkey enough for people not to find out who you are (if you have a blog or smth).
I can understand you leaving during the Grey Period, but now that grey sketch-kun is gone, having more people like you around has the potential to turn /asg/ into smth that's actually productive.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 06:35:20 2020 No.4467447

>>4466826
>https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1711220

Thanks anon.

>use raster layers until you know what you're doing

Is there any specific reason why newbie in digital arts should stick to raster and go for vector when they have more experience?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 07:17:00 2020 No.4467473 >>4467402 Not using a reference has nothing to do with being a fundiesfag. Why are fundiesfags so delusional?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 07:45:35 2020 No.4467496 >>4467473 The guy went through the entire Erik Olson lectures and did pages after pages of construction practice. He is 100% a fundiesfag

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 08:07:57 2020 No.4467523 >>4467496 Oh well ok then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 08:10:19 2020 No.4467529 >>4466826 Damn I've been working every single day for 2.5 years too and I've not anywhere that level. I should have just read some books..

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 08:44:15 2020 No.4467568

>>4467496
Wait.
I don't think >>4466932 and >>4466826 are the same person. >>4466826 is the one who went through Erik Olson but he posted before >>4466834. Someone asked >>4466932 how he got better and he said >>4466943 "I don't know how to respond to that".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 08:59:48 2020 No.4467590 >>4467529 I guess it's time to kill myself

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:01:48 2020 No.4467666 >>4467590 No anon don't give up, you give up then you're ngmi. Don't let your gains go no matter how little or big they are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:12:43 2020 No.4467688 >>4466932 is a girl who posts in /alt/ all the time. She has a pretty identifiable hatching style that shows up in all of her work. I don't think she's posted in here before. She's not the Erik Olson/hitokaku anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:15:46 2020 No.4467694 >>4467688 I believe you are mistaken, anon. I have only posted in those types of threads once and it was months ago. I posted a Yuyuko drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:29:49 2020 No.4467728 >>4467529 Everyday for 2.5 years?! Can you pyw I'm a little curious

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:30:58 2020 No.4467731 >>4467694 Are you the /jp/ guy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 10:38:06 2020 No.4467742 >>4467731 /jp/ guy? I'm not quite sure what you're referring to exactly as I am sure there may have been many other artists who've drawn Yuyuko before me, haha, but I am from /jp/ and have posted a few drawings in the OC threads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:19:27 2020 No.4467812 Total of 20 posts without pyw, huh. NGMI thread then

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:41:17 2020 No.4467856

>>4467666
>Gains
feel like I had none of that but it's entirely my fault for focusing on the wrong things for so long, thinking that would get me somewhere.
But thanks, I'm gonna try and focus on going through all these books and hopefully get rid of bad habits.

>>4467728
actually, according to my files it's been just about 2 years for me, my bad, but otherwise I've been at it full time only stopping working when I'm sick
curious how bad you can be without books? go right ahead and laugh
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/25900387

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:43:47 2020 No.4467858 >>4467856 Did you use a 3d model? lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:44:57 2020 No.4467861 >>4467858 No, I hate that. I did toy with them and it's useless. Now I don't even use references much even if that's bad too

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:45:53 2020 No.4467863 >>4467856 sorry for random question, but is pixiv worth for westerners, alreayd learned english dont want to start learning a 3rd language just cuz the west shits on every good site until it because a wastedump

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:47:40 2020 No.4467868 >>4467856 What were you doing in those 2 years?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 11:48:24 2020 No.4467870 >>4467863 It's the only safe place to post anime >>4467868 Yes ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:04:43 2020 No.4467899 >>4467856 It doesn't look that bad for 2 years. Just gotta keep grinding. I think the face in that drawing could use some improvements.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:05:26 2020 No.4467900 >>4467856 Not bad anon, once you get better at drawing face/expressions it'd look better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:17:12 2020 No.4467929 >>4467856 >everyday >only a day worth of art Come on now anon, show us your practice drill or warm up. Also beginners should stick to traditional.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:17:18 2020 No.4467930 >practice for a day >give up for 2 weeks GOD DAMN IT COME ON. HOW DO I STAY ON TRACK

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:23:46 2020 No.4467943 >>4467930 The same way you always come here everyday

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:30:10 2020 No.4467959 File: 203 KB, 506x900, 20200404_115127.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i can't find hair that goes with it or draw hair. does anybody know how to do it and can redline hair to see if its possible?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:42:12 2020 No.4467980 >>4467930 my trick, practise using subjects you like, for example do figure drawing but make it a character i like, stuff like that, practising "fundamentals" gets pretty tiresome unless you start messing around with it and applying to your own work

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:44:02 2020 No.4467987 >>4467959 >i can't find hair that goes with it How? There's tons of front facing refs you can use. Asking for a redline won't help you learn the process yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 12:47:01 2020 No.4467998 >>4467987 you correct but i want to know what style goes with it and if its possible. just a request tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:03:31 2020 No.4468059 File: 284 KB, 506x900, tl20kii6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4467959 what is this anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:10:14 2020 No.4468077 >>4468059 the back since its sideways. could have done it wrong or made it to big. wil fix

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:25:49 2020 No.4468109 File: 385 KB, 2048x2732, Illustration_sans_titre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to render wet clothes

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 13:53:44 2020 No.4468168 >>4467929 >only a day worth of art Post what you can do in a day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:01:36 2020 No.4468183 >>4468109 Blog?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:40:17 2020 No.4468246

>>4468109
pretty decent, but the shadows especially under the clothes are pretty muddy, if anything they should be more bluish because they are under a blue cloth and maybe not so dark as skin that can be seen through wet clothes receive same light as the surface somewhat

as with everything, keep practising and studying ref and comparing your imagination work with refs to betetr see what you need to improve/fix

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:49:56 2020 No.4468272
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>>4467447
raster layers are easier to understand and you'll really only run into issues when upscaling a lot. it's also just way more commonly used. i know how vector layers work but i really never needed use them so that's why i say stick to raster for now
>>4467496
>The guy went through the entire Erik Olson lectures and did pages after pages of construction practice. He is 100% a fundiesfag
if you're talking about me, i'm not the one who drew the jahy. also i have some literal hundreds of pages of copies too. anyway, please don't put me into this weird fundies vs copying false dichtomy that these threads have been stuck on for the past little while. if you want to improve quickly, it's important to do BOTH and more (such as drawing from life)
>>4467529
working is the hard part, which fortunately you're already good at. but studying helps to break through some plateaus. good luck anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:53:59 2020 No.4468276 File: 914 KB, 1812x2560, 0000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone know a mangaka/doujin artist with a style similiar to Orion? https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/179964/artworks

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:56:15 2020 No.4468281 >>4468272 Can you run through how you personally approach copying?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 14:57:18 2020 No.4468284 >>4468272 where'd you learn the approach of doing everything with a pen instead of a pencil? How to Draw by Robertson?

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:10:34 2020 No.4468318
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>>4468272
>raster layers are easier to understand and you'll really only run into issues when upscaling a lot

I see, thanks for answering my question. Also, when you're sketching (whether using reference or straight from imagination), do you use different layers? This one I made in 30 minutes using real life reference, all in single raster layer. Sorry for noobs question, I'm really new into drawing let alone digital drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:14:33 2020 No.4468327 >>4468281 this

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:16:59 2020 No.4468335

>>4468318
Also I have a hard time to make the eyes symmetrical. When I tried drawing without sketch, the eyes always ended up wrong. I could draw one okay, but the other always looks different. I tried to flip, rotate, but since it's being done digitally, the feeling is really different from doing it on a paper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:40:36 2020 No.4468393 >>4468272 btw, I`m doing the same thing, do you draw directly with ink or do you lightly sketch it with pencil first?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:43:07 2020 No.4468398 >>4467861 This is unironically one of the reasons you're bad. Get any good artist and ask his opinion on using references. Of course drawing from imagination is also necessary, but most of the time you need to be in LEARN mode and not PERFORMANCE mode.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:43:43 2020 No.4468399 >>4468272 I love the way you draw eyes. Any tips or resources you used? I have trouble memorizing that shape

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 15:52:55 2020 No.4468419 >>4468399 copy thosands of eyes you like

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:25:34 2020 No.4468494
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>>4468281
when i'm doing it mindfully, i would set a goal. for example, those pics, i was trying to figure out the relationship and spacing between the eyes, brows, and nose. i found a pentagon in front view, and then i found the same slightly warped pentagon on a slightly turned view. from there, i tried to recreate the relationships using that pentagon's proportions. after that, i would assess whether i achieved the look and appeal or not. if not, i take some notes on why i think that is, and then i try again one more time with that in mind before moving on. mostly i focus on deconstructing and finding relationships when i copy.
i also do a lot of mindless copying where i'm just trying to keep the hand moving and i'm not really thinking about too much, just trying to capture the silhouette and big picture. i think you'll need some basic skills like keeping proportion, and seeing perspective properly, in order to get the most out of copying
>>4468284
yeah, scott robertson did mention that briefly. i also do a lot of peter han's dynamic sketching (or draw a box) exercises in pen. i found myself focusing on what's important instead of fussing around when i ditched the ability to erase
>>4468318
i mostly just sketch on one layer. my finished works have an ungodly amount of unnamed layers, but for sketching, i want to emulate a traditional experience. to that end, i like to hit tab to hide the UI so i don't think about all the controls and distracting parts of working digitally
>>4468393
just directly with ink. if it becomes too messy or if i want a cleaner drawing, i just draw it again while ditching some of the construction i used previously. ditching the pencil wasn't an easy transition though. i should also mention that this is only for the sake of improving. i would use a pencil if i'm planning on making presentable piece
>>4468399
those eyes are copied from minaba hideo (granblue fantasy guy). so look at his work if you like those eyes

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:28:55 2020 No.4468500
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>>4468399
to elaborate, i also use the hitokaku method to deconstruct eyes from artists i like. i think it's a good way to understand forms of the anime eye (fundamentally the same form as a realistic eye, believe it or not). pic related from his 2nd book 人を描くのって樂しいね - 顔・頭編 (it's fun to draw people, face/head edition)

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:35:45 2020 No.4468507

>>4468494
>just directly with ink. if it becomes too messy or if i want a cleaner drawing, i just draw it again while ditching some of the construction i used previously. ditching the pencil wasn't an easy transition though. i should also mention that this is only for the sake of improving. i would use a pencil if i'm planning on making presentable piec

Thanks, I don't know if you felt the same way as I do before starting, but there's much fear about making wrong lines and just destroying the drawing, even when I draw with a simple BIC pen, I always do the construction lightly and then apply harder lines to make the drawing.

Guess I'll try your approach, maybe I'll make so many mistakes that I'll just develop some confidence after all hahaha.

Thanks anon.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:40:12 2020 No.4468516
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>>4468507
>I don't know if you felt the same way as I do before starting, but there's much fear about making wrong lines and just destroying the drawing
i know that feeling all too well. the way through for me was to destroy thousands of drawings to desensitize the fear. pic related tons of terribly placed lines from mindless copying to get over the fear

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:40:19 2020 No.4468518 >>4468272 >>4468494 greysketch and mikufag permanently btfo for all eternity, anti-fundiefags also btfo, fundie-based copying proven to be the definitive path to gains

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:45:01 2020 No.4468529

>>4468516
any advice for getting in that kind of flow state and just letting go? it's hard for me to detach myself from the end result, there's always this kind of OCD feeling in my mind of "if i fuck this up it's gonna permanently cripple me forever", i think spending time on /ic/ has given me brain damage

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:45:21 2020 No.4468531

>>4468516
Excellent work anon, hope to show my progress on ink some weeks later from applying your approach :D

I just got the 2k images from Toshi from e-hentai, think I'll study all of those now, the way he sketches has so much charm even though it's so minimalistic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:46:05 2020 No.4468535 >>4468516 >this is the power of gmi The light is so bright, it’s blinding. Bless you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:49:27 2020 No.4468542 File: 1.14 MB, 1210x907, toshi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4468531 gl anon, toshi one of my favorites, i ordered several of his books off amazon jp

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:51:18 2020 No.4468546 >>4468529 You are what you believe anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:51:23 2020 No.4468547 File: 76 KB, 384x785, foxgirl-res.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4468531 btw, this is me >>4466889 and this is one of the last images I did on ps some time ago.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:55:33 2020 No.4468558

>>4468529
>any advice for getting in that kind of flow state and just letting go?
sorry if this is shit advice, i'm hesitant to give it but it's the honest to goodness truth for me. take care of everything else in your life to the best of your ability and then it's easier to draw without being weighed down by "i should be doing this other thing instead"
>it's hard for me to detach myself from the end result, there's always this kind of OCD feeling in my mind of "if i fuck this up it's gonna permanently cripple me forever"
that's just inexperience, it works itself out after tons of drawing
>i think spending time on /ic/ has given me brain damage
absolutely can confirm it happened to me too

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 16:58:00 2020 No.4468562 File: 286 KB, 800x600, wild.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4468547 fox girl cute af, you're gmi

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:01:30 2020 No.4468569

>>4468562
Also, just before I go draw, I found a book I think you'd love.

https://e-hentai.org/g/1498106/d319d79bde/

It has so many immediately practical tips, also that style can be used like Etrian Odyssey, so it's very versatile, doesn't need to be full monochrome.

Thanks and see you later!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:05:47 2020 No.4468580 File: 902 KB, 907x1210, jaco.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4468569 wow, you really got my number lol i already have it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:06:27 2020 No.4468582 >>4468494 >>4468500 Thank you anon.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 17:10:03 2020 No.4468587

>>4468558
>and then it's easier to draw without being weighed down by "i should be doing this other thing instead"
yeah that's definitely something i struggle with, like when i'm working on something that's not drawing i'm thinking "i should be drawing" and when i'm drawing i'm thinking "i should be doing something else", it's like this weird dysfunctional paradox that leads to me not getting anything done instead of at least getting something done

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 19:13:05 2020 No.4468840
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>>4461835
I did this study for fun to take a break from Olson's lessons or I would lose my sanity. I'll add the colors later

>>4466514
>>4466509
>>4466528
I asked about these courses in the video course thread and some nice anons delivered, I started some of these today.
it's here if someone is interested
>>4467481 >>4467761 >>4467806

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 19:23:34 2020 No.4468864 >>4468840 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:24:36 2020 No.4468987 >>4468840 >>4462418 >it seems you are the one who is mad. I'm glad I'm getting some /ic/ notoriety in my otherwise pathetic life >wah don't make fun of my shitty art because they bulli me at school grow a pair dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:36:10 2020 No.4468999 >>4468987 Do you really think I care if someone makes fun of my art on 4channel. I hate dramafags

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 20:41:13 2020 No.4469008
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>>4468987
huh...bro?
why did you replied me?
you know that the other guy and I are not the same person, right?
and even then I don't give a shit if people roast me here since sometimes I get useful advice

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:32:07 2020 No.4469079

>>4468494
By performing observational drawing and deconstructing the figure you're analyzing the it and breaking them down to its basic forms as you've described in the pentagon form; you're doing a lot of collateral damage by giving false hopes to these idiots telling them that it is okay to copy when in fact what you're describing is not at all copying but instead an academic approach which is what we've been trying to tell these retards ever since the inception of these circus shows of a thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:33:22 2020 No.4469080 >>4469079 Analyzing it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:35:09 2020 No.4469082 >>4469079 >ever since the inception of these circus shows of a thread. Holy shit can you just leave already? I knew you were the same faggot. Just leave forever. It's been two years already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:37:55 2020 No.4469086 >>4469082 This isn't your echo chamber of a hug box, you're going to hear a lot of things you don't like to hear and you're going to have a lot of feedback which will not go your way. Get used to it snowflake.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 21:38:25 2020 No.4469089
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>>4469079
>>4469086
It is okay to copy.

Pic related is from the foreword of that popular アニメ私塾 book by a guy in the Japanese anime industry. See the triangle?
>上手い絵の模写: 上手い人の絵の記号(絵のパターン)を手に入れる
>Copying good drawings: acquiring the symbols of skilled people's drawings (the patterns of the drawings)
>実物の線画化:実物を理解することで、上手い人の絵が理解できる
>Real life drawing: by understanding real life, we can understand skilled people's drawings
>創作活動全般: 落書きや作品制作
>General original creation: sketching, complete OC works etc

Quote from the foreword:
>こうして、学生時代は「自主制作アニメを作る」「上手い絵の模写」「実物の線画化」のトライアングルを繰り返すことで劇的に上達していき、絵を描き始めてからわずか3年でスタジオジブリの入社試験に合格することができました。
>In this way, I made extreme progress during my school years by repeating a triangle of doing my own original anime drawings, copies of good drawings, and life drawings, and only 3 years after picking up drawing I was able to pass Studio Ghibli's employment test.

He was 19 when he started drawing.

Pic related also shows drawings from before he started practising deliberate copying as well as his original anime drawings from ~2 years after that.

Here's a link to a blog post with where he raves about the efficacy of copying
http://animesijyuku.blogspot.com/2018/05/blog-post_73.html

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:01:56 2020 No.4469113
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>>4469089
I don't think you entirely understand what exactly these morons believe copying is. These guys insist upon copying off anime screenshots that are designed to look good in motion and meet a budget sacrificing details that you would normally find through life drawing. By copying off amawus you will inherit bad habits such as the sidemouths used in the animations without knowing why they're there thinking it is part of the style when in fact it is there as an abstraction of forms to save time and labor. Another example is the missing tip of the lips whenever an Amawu smiles, it's just another abstract form designed to look good in motion that has its origins based from life. If you do not understand the concept of abstract forms, why we use them and most importantly where they originated form you will fail to use it properly thinking it is just a style and as a consequence you will end up with results that you will need to unlearn before you can improve again.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:06:31 2020 No.4469120

>>4469113
Copying anime will help you learn anime stylization. That's all there is to it. You're constructing strawmen and moving goalposts. If you have a problem with what you're describing there, you should be talking about that instead of shitting on copying in general. You're a nobody and if you don't like copying there's no need for you to stay in this thread. Even if you think people in this thread are retarded copyfags that's fine, just leave and let us be. This thread is meant for anime studies and copies of anime references, it says so in the OP. Create your own anime general with no copies allowed if you don't like it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:10:28 2020 No.4469126 [DELETED]

>>4469120
There's already a general with your chinkshit but it has been pozzed by Tumblrittes and trannies. If you want to improve, stop copying off anime and expand on drawing form imagination with all the immersion you've been exposed to for your own sake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 22:55:01 2020 No.4469180 are we allowed to post nsfw loli drawings here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 23:08:13 2020 No.4469191 >>4469180 We only post anime here sir.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 4 23:16:09 2020 No.4469197 >>4469180 Use catbox or cross board link them. 4chan has global rules against loli in all board but /b/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:30:51 2020 No.4469262 >>4469008 >I don't give a shit if people roast me here since sometimes I get useful advice The only advice you need is loomis.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 00:36:58 2020 No.4469272

>>4469079
he literally said he did thousands of mindless copies too you fucking dunning kruger retard mikufag i swear to god this is the second artist who is WAY better than you will ever be that you have talked back to. how many fucking times do you have to get your shit stomped in before you shut your fucking faggot pedo mouth for good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:06:54 2020 No.4469300 I still don't understand the copy thing. How is it different from just tracing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:09:47 2020 No.4469305 >>4469300 The traditional method of tracing is just following the lines. Copying requires you think about how to place those lines and elements together to form a coherent piece.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:14:06 2020 No.4469311 >>4469305 You forget the fact that when you copy off something the answers are already there for you, there is no thinking involved. Try drawing from imagination and see for yourself, you'll find that you'll have absolutely no idea where to even start.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:18:04 2020 No.4469316 >>4469311 How can you not know where to start? Do you have no imagination? The answers are already there for you, there is no thinking involved.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:27:24 2020 No.4469330 >>4469316 No, they're not which is why you use thumbnails roughs, quick sketches, or even silhouettes to draft a concept first and then begin to illustrate using the five P's.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:29:28 2020 No.4469336 >>4469330 Imagine needing to make exceptions. Oh wait, I forgot. You can't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:31:56 2020 No.4469340 >>4469336 Proportion, placement, perspective, planes, patterns. Conception, construction, contour, character (gesture) composition and consistency. I can't spoonfeed you anymore than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:51:55 2020 No.4469377 Tracing and copying isn't bad. Heck, animators trace and copy all the time that's how the "anime style" came to be, morons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 01:57:55 2020 No.4469385 >>4469377 You're not an animator working for a studio with a strict schedule and deadlines to meet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:02:11 2020 No.4469390 >>4469385 I literally am, but only freelance. I worked on Eizouken and Kimetsu no Yaiba

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:04:28 2020 No.4469392 >>4469377 >>4469390 Get out of here real animator. Only fakers get to be here. We'll fight until the ends of times because we're all idiots.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:08:31 2020 No.4469397

>>4469390
By all means use all the tools at your disposal hopefully these retards won't mistake that as an effective way to learn. What it comes down to is the fact that you're all a bunch of lazy Niggers wanting the easy way out and absolutely refuse to put any form of effort into learning instead you're all waiting for handouts. There are no shortcuts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:08:32 2020 No.4469398 >>4469390 What scenes did you work on?

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:24:03 2020 No.4469410

>>4469397
Yes Mikufag, you're right. You know the right way to learn and everyone else is wrong. That's why you've been drawing the same subject matter, the same toddler-bodied Mikus for god-knows-how-long and have not improved at all. That's why despite your professing of fundamental skills you still don't understand the form of the head or how to appealingly stylize it, and you got completely BTFO by a far superior artist that you were trying to shit-talk over it. That's why whenever a skilled artist who goes against your autistic doctrine that has gotten you effectively 0 results shows up, you come up with 100 excuses as to why their situation is different and you aren't REALLY wrong, they're just lying or being misleading. You know everything, and everyone else knows nothing. You don't need anyone's advice, because you're already perfect. Good think the sketchfag is gone; if he had stuck around any longer then you might have had to confront the fact that you and him are exactly the same.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:43:27 2020 No.4469432
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>>4469392
But I'm free right now.

>>4469398
I did 2nd KA on this.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/114341
For Yaiba I haven't actually watched it although I assisted. I don't feel like looking for the exact cut.

>>4469397
When you got hired to draw your japanese animes the first thing studios train you is how to trace properly for MONTHS. You will just trace and trace drawings until you get it accurately. If you trace it poorly the lines will boil on screen. That's how most animators start in their career. If you can't even do this after training period you'll probably will get fired before doing real work.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:49:03 2020 No.4469438

>>4469432
>When you got hired to draw your japanese animes the first thing studios train you is how to trace properly for MONTHS. You will just trace and trace drawings until you get it accurately. If you trace it poorly the lines will boil on screen. That's how most animators start in their career. If you can't even do this after training period you'll probably will get fired before doing real work.
Of course you're going to be doing that, you're animating a motion picture and taking sketches from another artist, cleaning it up and essentially doing the line art by charting around the drawing. The problem is that begs will misconceive that as an essential learning method because their favorite animay artist does it when in fact they're not learning anything at all.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:51:00 2020 No.4469441
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>>4469432
>>4469438

Even after you got promoted to key, you will still have to copy the characters and locations accurate and on model. If you can't, someone with better drawing skills will correct your attempt at copying with notes and guides, and again you will have to trace that correction unto your work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:53:37 2020 No.4469444 >>4469441 What mango?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:53:59 2020 No.4469445 >>4469444 animeta

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:55:02 2020 No.4469446 >>4469432 How to trace properly?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 02:55:41 2020 No.4469447 >>4469445 Thank you lad. Wish google image search could go back to not being crap.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 03:05:37 2020 No.4469455

>>4469441
Charting over your initial sketch to portray your line art is an essential skill, yes but when it comes to learning how to draw from scratch it will prove to be a moot approach. If it's going to take years for some of you to realize all that copying has been handicapping you it's going to be a lot more difficult having to unlearn all that crap you got from someone tracing over a rough to meet a deadline. You of all people should know that in animation you're simplifying and tuning forms so that they look good in motion. As someone who's learning how to draw this is a disastrous way to learn from something that has been diluted in order to meet a budget.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 03:18:27 2020 No.4469468

>>4469455
>but when it comes to learning how to draw from scratch it will prove to be a moot approach

Copying and tracing is how you learn how to draw, for anime, in my opinion. It might be different for other forms of art, but this is the "anime study thread," right?

>You of all people should know that in animation you're simplifying and tuning forms so that they look good in motion
You literally need good drafting and drawing skills beforehand in order to do this convincingly, and you get that by copying and learning from artists better than you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 03:47:27 2020 No.4469504 >>4469410 Trying to argue with Mikufag is just as pointless as trying to redline him, nothing of value comes from it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:02:53 2020 No.4469518 >>4469438 >>4469455 You are the king of cope. I feel genuine pity for you. >Y-YOU MIGHT BE IN THE INDUSTRY BUT YOU'RE GONNA REGRET MAKING IT WHEN YOU SEE ALL THOSE BAD HABITS YOU PICKED UP!!! Brain damage, plain and simple.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 04:04:39 2020 No.4469520

>>4469446
You do that by flipping the paper. You compare your drawing to the original, if its shaking then its no good. In digital, you can do that by turning your drawing layer on/off and compare.

It's not as easy as it sounds, especially when you have to do hundreds of these with accuracy. My tendency to chicken scratch was gone after this experience.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:12:46 2020 No.4469627

>>4469520
Hey can I please ask a couple questions? How did you get started as a freelance animator? Did you post animations online and somebody contacted you? Do you do it on site in Japan or remotely? Paper or digital?
>When you got hired to draw your japanese animes the first thing studios train you is how to trace properly for MONTHS
This makes me sound like it was on site, with paper?
T. Hanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 06:28:20 2020 No.4469642 >>4469627 >This makes it*

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 07:17:00 2020 No.4469702 >>4469432 You're norio matsumoto?

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 09:04:43 2020 No.4469844

>>4469432
Nick? Wow. congrats man.
Did Norio also use digital? I know he did for his Land of Lustrous animation. What software did you use? I guess it's Animate CC since Science Saru used it. Also, what's the real difference between 1st KA and 2nd KA? If I remember correctly there's also something called LO which is to my surprise, it means rough animation and not the actual layout (please correct me if I got it wrong). Was it like that in your case (doing 2nd KA job)? Cleaning LO from other animators?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:04:52 2020 No.4470037 >>4469390 Sure :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:08:07 2020 No.4470042 >>4470037 I wouldn't be suspect him since it's relatively easier to make it as animator these days rather than illustrators in Japan. Some of my friends are contracted now regularly appear in seasonal anime.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:30:28 2020 No.4470090

>>4469844
No, I am not him.
Using CSP for LO and 2nd KA. Doesn't really matter what software you use as long as you deliver the product they want.
1st KA, also called ichigen is the rough.
What the 2nd KA does is clean it up and make it more on model based on AD's corrections, while following the motion of the 1st KA. Basically redrawing what the 1st KA did. LO is literally layout, it's where the character's are placed in correct perspective and locations according to storyboard, ichigen is the extension to that, making movements based on LO.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:32:30 2020 No.4470095 >>4470090 How does the studio or production assistant handle different file formats if contracted animators use different software? Do you convert it to video file like mp4 first?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:37:00 2020 No.4470105 File: 772 KB, 480x270, 1389458102333.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4470090 I know the questions are stupid but please reply to >>4469627 I beg you

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:37:35 2020 No.4470107 >>4470090 PYW

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:38:57 2020 No.4470112 >>4470090 I just send it as a clip file. (For 2nd KA and LO) Not sure how they handle it on their end but I think they'll export it as individual image files. Then give it to imbetweeners to trace.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:46:57 2020 No.4470143
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>>4469468
All ideals and stylized figures are derived from life, yes? Consider the history of how the animu style came to be - it was inspired by Disney and even Disney heavily derived its idealized and stylized figures from life. If you are proficient in the fundamentals and understand the concepts behind abstract forms used in these heavily stylized figures such as side mouths no harm done in charting lines from other artists but the entire basis of the argument we're having here is for somebody who is learning and wants to skip ahead to stylizing figures they will find out the hard way how crucial it is to understand real world figures, and the how we get to these "symbols" or abstract forms that are simplified and translated into what is essentially shape language that implies form rather than portray it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:47:14 2020 No.4470145

>>4470112
Oh, thanks for answering my question. Between CSP, Animate, and TVPaint, which one do you like more? I know Kou Yoshinari created amazing animation (and compositing) with TVPaint, lot of amazing animators like Kawano at Studio Colorido use it too.

>>4470105
I'm not animator but my friends made it through connection. Basically, twitter. Post your work online, use tag that easily discoverable, join a community like Zettai Absolute. Frend of mine goes with traditional route like applying to certain studios though. Basically built a portfolio, tumblr, personal blog, youtube, twitter.
Though I have to remind you that being animator for anime doesn't pay that much, compared to what western cartoon offers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:48:45 2020 No.4470148 >>4470090 Oh, also I need to ask you, how do you handle complex layout, like a lot of moving backgrounds?

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:50:07 2020 No.4470157

>>4470105
If you want to be freelance you have to gather some connections first. I applied and was trained in-house, thats how I met some people. Because of COVID, I work remotely. They'll contact me when they need help. Or vice versa if im looking for more work. My advice is you have the earn "career capital." Sorry my English sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 11:58:53 2020 No.4470180 >>4470157 where are you from?

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:00:22 2020 No.4470183

>>4470105
just appeal for certain show like Black Clover. They really in need for constant freelance animators, follow Tatsuya Yoshihara and Isuta, post fan animation. If they haven't noticed you reply to their tweets, say you're their fans etc. Sucking dicks is the fastest way to get into the industry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:02:00 2020 No.4470187 >>4470183 >Sucking dicks is the fastest way to get into the industry. You heard it here first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:03:00 2020 No.4470190 File: 160 KB, 423x597, 1564680505000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4470187 Ergo, the K*vshinov cockmongering.

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:10:20 2020 No.4470210

>>4470145
I use CSP just because I have it. Didn't try the others. Colorido's style is amazing, really easy to draw. I helped them on the Neko movie a year ago, fastening days and pokemon too.

>>4470148
We write instructions on the lo and time sheets on how we want the camera to move.

>>4470143
I think you are thinking way too much about the whole process. I myself have never drawn things in real life, maybe from photos and videos for reference, but I learned more from copying artists I like. Drawing anime is easy t b h, you just need common sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:11:36 2020 No.4470214 >>4470210 >Drawing anime is easy t b h, you just need common sense. /asg/ on close watch

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:15:49 2020 No.4470225 >>4470210 >Drawing anime is easy desu, you just need common sense. Otherwise known as basic fundamental life drawing, thank you. You faggots can start drawing from life now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:48:40 2020 No.4470300 >>4470225 cope

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:50:43 2020 No.4470305 What to do when you can imagine a nice drawing in your head, but when your drawing couldn't keep up with your imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:52:51 2020 No.4470309 >>4470305 Practice

Anonymous Sun Apr 5 12:54:28 2020 No.4470312

>>4470305
In order for you to draw from imagination you need to learn to work with abstract forms, develop a methodological approach by putting down your concept on canvas with the use of thumbnail roughs, silhouettes, quick sketch, anything to help you visualize the idea so you can later refine it with forms in space. But in order for you to do that you need to have common sense as someone has put clearly here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:31:47 2020 No.4470643 What to do when you have some basic understanding of fundies but can't imagine anything to draw?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:32:59 2020 No.4470651 >>4470643 Practice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 15:33:38 2020 No.4470656 >>4470643 I use requests from drawthread for practice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 16:49:28 2020 No.4470901 File: 1.13 MB, 1500x1500, _cutegorl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this the real /asg/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 17:58:09 2020 No.4471049 >>4470210 pyw

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 18:20:20 2020 No.4471084 >>4471049 These cuts involving hop https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/114959 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/114957

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 19:08:49 2020 No.4471164 >>4471084 meh

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 20:58:20 2020 No.4471332 >>4471084 Do you have any actual work to post instead of links that anyone can send?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 5 23:07:43 2020 No.4471509 >>4471332 Why would I lie lmao

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