Why don't we crowdfund to pay some artist to do the best free how to draw course ever?

[Anonymous No.4449703]

Title.

Why instead of crabbing each other or pirating NMA we crowdfund to pay the best art teachers to do the best kickass how to draw course with an easy to follow plan anyone can access?

And we end all of our suffering?

Just an idea.

[Anonymous No.4449704]

stupid frogposter

[Anonymous No.4449708]

>>4449704

[Anonymous No.4449709]

based frogposter

[Anonymous No.4449794]

>>4449703
Because the best art teachers would go near anything to do with /ic/. The crabs here would destroy their reputation at the slightest perceived misstep.
It would be nothing but crab, crab, crab.

[Anonymous No.4449798]

>>4449703 (OP)
Because the best art teachers would never go near anything associated with /ic/. The crabs here would destroy their reputation at the slightest perceived misstep.
It would be nothing but crab, crab, crab.

[Anonymous No.4449804]

There's already more than enough free material out there to become a pro, you gotta get over the need to be hand held every step of the way- 90% of gettin good you gotta figure out yourself.

[Anonymous No.4449824]

>>4449703
>>4449703
Torrent the 300gb of watts attelie r nigga, that is the course you're talking about

[Anonymous No.4449830]

>>4449804
All of this material isn't worth shit if you don't know where to start so hand-holding is a must

[Anonymous No.4449863]

>Why don't we crowdfund to pay some artist to do the best free how to draw course ever?
1) This: >>4449804. There's plenty of free information already.
2) pirating NMA is easier than crowdfunding art teachers
3) if you're serious about art enough to spend money, then you'll learn more by hiring a tutor to focus just on you.
4) Nobody would agree to make such lessons. Teaching art is what many artists do for a living. Any artist good enough to make such lessons would kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by making a full, free art course.

[Anonymous No.4449873]

>>4449824
Have you actually watched it?

watts atelier and atelier trainigin in general is designed for copy fags.

Watts literally tells you to use loomis.

[Anonymous No.4449883]

>>4449830
this

[Anonymous No.4449887]

>>4449863
>4) Nobody would agree to make such lessons. Teaching art is what many artists do for a living. Any artist good enough to make such lessons would kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by making a full, free art course.


Bullshit, besides that's why I said crowdfunding. Making videos isn't that expensive but we could make the money worth it for someone to share their secrets

[Anonymous No.4449893]

>>4449830
If you think like this not only an art career is completely out of reach but even drawing as a hobby is not for you...

[Anonymous No.4449894]

>>4449893
Post your work

[Anonymous No.4449919]

>>4449894
Go draw.

[Anonymous No.4449924]

>>4449830
True at lower levels, but the more experienced you are the more you are expected to figure it out yourself.

There's no secrets about drawing that we don't already know or that you can't find yourself. What it comes down to is a lot of practice, love, and drive. If you want to git gud all you really have to do is keep cramming practices and lessons, keep pushing yourself and keep trying different things. Do this consistently for like 3-5 years and you'll be there.

That's the reality of every discipline. The only reason why that guy is up there and you're down here is because that guy did his time, and he probably enjoyed it too.

[Anonymous No.4449937]

>>4449919
Stop deflecting and Post your work

[Anonymous No.4449946]

>>4449924
Let’s see if he ask you to pyw... hmm

[Anonymous No.4449952]

>>4449919
Fucking pos happyfuckboi.

[Anonymous No.4449958]

>>4449946
No, just you. PYW

[Anonymous No.4449973]

>>4449703
Why would crowdfunding change anything? They wouldn't suddenly be able to make a magical supercourse just because they're funded with 1 million dollars.

[Anonymous No.4449976]

>>4449973
Nothing "magical" about hiring someone competent.

It's pretty obvious.

[Anonymous No.4449980]

>>4449958
>>4449952
Don’t neck yourself because of me I feel kinda bad that you are snapping because of one little truth.

[Anonymous No.4449996]

>>4449980
Post your pyw tranny

[Anonymous No.4449998]

>>4449980
The truth that you are a /beg larping?

PYW

[Anonymous No.4450014]

>>4449976
But we already have competent art teachers.

[Anonymous No.4450020]

>>4450014
teaching for free, from zero? Name one.

[Anonymous No.4450030]

>>4450020
Sticky

[Anonymous No.4450029]

>>4450020
Who do you want to fund anyways?

[Anonymous No.4450037]

The sticky is just a collection of books and art youtube channels scattered aimlessly. None of those do what I said.

[Anonymous No.4450044]

>>4450030
>The sticky is just a collection of books and art youtube channels scattered aimlessly.

None of those do what I said of teachng you from zzero to proffiient in an easy to undertand way

[Anonymous No.4450045]

This is the problem when you know nothing you don’t even know what you don’t know. Very sad.

[Anonymous No.4450056]

>>4450045
pyw

[Anonymous No.4450061]

>>4449703
if this were to happen you wouldn't get any new information, lol. what are you expecting? You have all you need online and more

[Anonymous No.4450091]

>>4450020
What's so bad about purchasing a couple of books for like $20 anyway? Why does it need to be free? If you're so poor or hate the idea of it that much then there's plenty of torrents that have all the good courses/books.

All the knowledge you ever need is out there. Its your refusal to get it and dedicate yourself to learning them that's stopping you.

[Anonymous No.4450100]

>>4450091
Crowdfunding isn't free

[Anonymous No.4450101]

>>4449703
No course will work if you don't pick up a pencil and fucking draw.
Nearly any book or course will work if you do.
Just draw.

[Anonymous No.4450110]

>>4450045
Fucking this. Imagine believing it's the instruction that's the problem, that if you could just throw enough money at the problem, you'll make some supercourse that will make drawing easy to learn for everybody and come with a complimentary blow job to boot. Like, just draw bro.

[Anonymous No.4450112]

>>4449873
>>4450020
I think the half-truth is that any artists doing successful imaginative illustration (which is what I'm assuming your aiming for, since you're deriding Watts) simply does not have the time to make a course of such a grand scale.

Artists like that are too preoccupied with their work, experimenting and developing their methods and working on their own IP/projects in general. They will on occasion make a couple of courses focusing on one or two concepts, but a course with a grand scale of zero to master will simply not happen because they will neither have the time nor mental budget nor experience to make anything of that scale.

A course that can micromanage every little thing that you should learn and handhold you tight from zero to master can only be made by an artist that is passionate enough to spend time teaching 95% of the time. But what do you become when all you do is teach 95% of the time? You become just that: an art teacher, and a damn good one probably, but not a superstar artist with that can produce mindblowing works from imagination and a creator of well-known IPs.
These kind of courses cannot be made by someone like Frank Frazetta or Kim Jung Gi.

That's why you really don't have much choice but jump from teachers to teachers, because the kind of supergenius that can teach you everything is simply fictional.

[Anonymous No.4450127]

>>4450112
Thats something crowdfunding's sweet sweet money could easily solve.

[Anonymous No.4450136]

>>4450127
No it won't. Money won't suddenly make an artist be a godly teacher, that's a really a naive assumption.
Do you at least have any ideas on who you want to fund here?

[Anonymous No.4450139]

>>4450136
Goalpost moving. You said good artists wouldn't do it because lack of money. Crowdfunding solves that problem

[Anonymous No.4450142]

>>4450139
That's not at all what I said, re-read my post.

[Anonymous No.4450145]

>>4450112
It's more like the idea of a course that can make you a Frazetta or a KJG is a fantasy in the first place. Plenty of guys can teach you how to draw, nobody can teach you how to be an artist. I'm being serious here too, this isn't some artsy fartsy mumbo jumbo. Literally if you're not endlessly curious and driven, you might get competent at drawing but you won't do anything really creative with it. Good news is, you can decide what you're going to be, this stuff isn't written in stone. But people waiting on someone to give them directions on how to be creative...absurd on its face.

[Anonymous No.4450152]

So your hypothesis is that the reason no good "how to draw from imagination" type courses exist is because there aren't any made by artists who you perceive to be good. Is that it?

[Anonymous No.4450169]

>>4450152
The op is a troll/autist just let this thread go

[Anonymous No.4450291]

>>4449703
Because it would be socialism and I rather die free than be a socialist !

[Anonymous No.4450581]

>>4449703
I can varely buy food and this shit head wants me to pay a crowdfund.

[Anonymous No.4451485]

I feel like theres no need for something like this. I really fucking doubt that you have even tried to study any of the books /ic/ usually recomends. Loomis starts the book with drawing a ball and a box. If you're an actual begginer and just wants to be sure before putting the effort, my advice is to stop overthinking and do it. Loomis isnt perfect but its a great way to start. After that you should have a pretty good understanding of some of the basics and can easily transition to more classical books. Think it like this: if you knew everything from every book available on the internet you'd be on Michelangelos level.

[Anonymous No.4452274]

>>4451485
You are projecting hard. Kek.

[Anonymous No.4453646]

>>4452274
Im giving advice based on my personal experience. I did this shit already. If you're mad at me for telling you to do what worked for me then i have nothing to say.