/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.4438882]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

Make it Stick: The Science of Successful Learning:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=F0581EBF3D1D926E1A67127383C97350

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Effective Art Study Guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Discord:
https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

Previous Thread:
>>4428380

[Anonymous No.4438885]

https://twitter.com/banana69281

[Anonymous No.4438943]

Nice and young.

[Anonymous No.4438945]

>>4438943
how what are you using to draw bodys?

[Anonymous No.4438948]

An attempt was made

[Anonymous No.4438949]

how many hours do you guys draw a day? I've been at 8+ a day for about a few months. Being a neet is pretty nice

[Anonymous No.4438950]

>>4438949
reee

[Anonymous No.4438951]

>>4438945
Anime of course.

[Anonymous No.4438970]

>>4438949
When I draw, It's usually 12+ hours, but I don't draw everyday.

Did you copy that image?

[Anonymous No.4438978]

>>4438970
12+ hours? nice I wish I watched less anime so I could do that. and
I learned by copying, but I drew that by memory.

I learned everything from copying, here's a sketch I did a few hours ago

[Anonymous No.4438980]

>>4438978
did you really learn that from copying. if so how you copy and what anime style did you copy

[Anonymous No.4438996]

>>4438980
i pick a different artist or mangaka every 2 months, then just start copying on tracing paper for the whole day. After like a few days I attempt to draw on a normal piece of paper with the reference in front of me. Eventually after a few weeks or a month or 2. I try to draw from memory without a reference, I do this in my sketchbook.

I literally do this for 8+ hours everyday. 4 hours in the morning and 4 hours at night. All you need is drive, motivation, and time. Hopefully I will develop my own style soon.

[Anonymous No.4438997]

>>4438978
So paper vs digital? Did paper help you learn quicker?

>>4438980
Well when you actually draw, things happen.

[Anonymous No.4439001]

>>4438980
it's fake and gay anon

[Anonymous No.4439004]

>>4438997
I only draw with paper, never have I ever touched digital. I feel like paper is easy though? I don't know either way, I think copying will help us all

>>4439001
>it's fake and gay anon
no it's not see >>4438996 also pyw

[Anonymous No.4439212]

Any advice to make this piece of shit I drew, at least, passable?

[Anonymous No.4439219]

>>4438948
>>4439212
why did you delete it and come back 4 hours late?

[Anonymous No.4439221]

>>4439219

I dunno, I changed my mind.

[Anonymous No.4439242]

mind telling me if these threads are worth posting my work to?

[Anonymous No.4439251]

>>4439212
consult your priest and seek the Lord's forgiveness.
then delete your colors and just flat fill

[Anonymous No.4439257]

Can't decide what to draw, so I thought of studying taco's construction today

[Anonymous No.4439270]

>>4438949
>drew that by memory.

Sure... Every detail copied so perfectly to the original.

[Anonymous No.4439355]

>>4439270
I'm honestly genuinely perplexed of what's even the point of this. Instead of wasting time trying to desperately prove that their "side" is right, even with straight up lies, why not just try to get good at drawing?

Are they just trying to crab people down into the wrong road? This isn't the first time they're doing this too, that other time the copy wasn't even theirs and I won't be surprised if that's the case here too.

Do you think they even draw?

[Anonymous No.4439360]

>>4439270
Kek, the savant we need

>>4439355
I personally feel like I learn a lot doing studies. But I wouldn’t do 8 hours a day of them lmao

[Anonymous No.4439361]

>>4439355
it's just the same rehashed shitposting for (You)s. no point reading much into it.

[Anonymous No.4439572]

I cannot believe I still cannot draw these fucking little gook cartoon faces after this much fucking time.
How can this possibly be this hard.
What kind of black sorcery does it take to actually get good at this.

[Anonymous No.4439598]

>>4439572
bro... it's just a circle with a bunch of hair on it

[Anonymous No.4439605]

>>4439598
Yes I can do doodles like that. Sometimes.
I'm talking about drawing pro-level faces. Or at least something that's more presentable than a doodle.

[Anonymous No.4439610]

>>4439004
There was an anon who lied about being able to draw anime from copying, but took a screenshot of some random jap’s art account. You can’t believe it immediately, or you’re actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.4439613]

>>4439004
Looks like someone is retarded enough to believe that already, lmao.
>>4439270

[Anonymous No.4439634]

>>4439605

[Anonymous No.4439643]

>>4439610
he knows because he's the one who did it and is saying the same shit in the same threads as last time.

[Anonymous No.4439734]

>>4438978
I'm just finishing a challenge to copy 100 images from doujins. I've found that working with challenges motivates me more than anything. Copying doujins made me realize a lot about how to make figures more dynamic and how much foreshortening they use on good doujins.

I think I'll try 100 realistic portraits next.

[Anonymous No.4439741]

>>4439270
I'll be honest, if he liked that image and drew it from reference two to three times, he could easily draw it from memory with few errors, provided he's a good draftsman and has a good memory.

[Anonymous No.4439752]

>>4439605
Draw the same thing over and over again till you get it, it's not hard concept.

>>4439741
This is true, that's why I believed the person could be telling the truth for a split second.

[Anonymous No.4439834]

>the abosulte state of fundieniggers getting angry at copyfags being better than them
kek

[Anonymous No.4439842]

>>4439834
Fundiechads don’t have to lie about their progress unlike copyfags, kek.

[Anonymous No.4439868]

Choose your fighter

[Anonymous No.4439872]

Just construct from imagination/knowledge then use reference/copy to fill in parts you don't full understand yet

[Anonymous No.4439878]

>>4439842
k-keep seething hahaha just wait i will find a image unsauceable and i will make you all fundiekeks so man haha , what im not wasting my time y-you guys are getting so trolled ahahahah

[Anonymous No.4439880]

>>4439868
Kanisan would be top cute if not for her weird shirt. Also I didn't even know these things were called Black Tiger. And although left is the cutest. I don't even know what a Puchohenza is.

[Anonymous No.4439881]

>>4439868
Noo, I pick none, because these are all personalityless moeblobs.

[Anonymous No.4439931]

>>4439878
>>4439834
fundiefags are just as bad as 100% copyfags, the ideal is in between.

if you only draw from imagination, you'll never get new information, you're just copying shit from your memory, you won't get better.

if you only copy, you'll never learn how to get shit from your memory unto the paper.

but if you copy a lot and sometimes try and do memory drawings you'll get better for sure.

[Anonymous No.4439936]

>>4439931
What people call imagination is actually just memory, the more visual library you have, the better your "imagination" is.

[Anonymous No.4439944]

>>4439936
So fundiefags have no visual library, but know how to draw, whereas copyfags have a huge visual library, but don't know how to use it?

[Anonymous No.4439951]

>>4438882
What is easier draw an anime girl or make a 3d model?

[Anonymous No.4439953]

>>4439951
Well technically, a 3d model is way easier because you can just hit a button and you get a cube, a sphere or even a monkey face. But realistically drawing an anime girl is way easier than actually 3d modelling. One takes 5 minutes the other takes 5 hours.

[Anonymous No.4439970]

>>4439881
>personalityless moeblobs
Anyone who thinks greyfag isn't trolling is now retarded

[Anonymous No.4439990]

>>4439970
Who's trolling here buddy? Moeshitters killed anime with their moeshit shows and gachashit and now I can't find any good anime anymore. I hate weebs more than anything in killing anime.

[Anonymous No.4440007]

>>4439990
Can you draw a girl with big boobs?

[Anonymous No.4440014]

How exactly do anime head proportions differ from normal human head proportions? Do the eyes just get larger but everything else stays the same? Do the eyes getting bigger push the nose down? Obviously I know it varies a lot from character to character.

[Anonymous No.4440017]

>>4440007
No thanks, I am le lolicon.

[Anonymous No.4440020]

>>4440014
Eyes and heads get bigger

[Anonymous No.4440021]

>>4440014
Way too complex of a thing to explain in one post. People spend an entire life time studying it. Best tip I can give you is to check out mangamaterials.

[Anonymous No.4440030]

>>4439931
Copyfags are worse, anon.

[Anonymous No.4440031]

>>4440014
Compare front shots of anime characters and humans and you will have your answer.

[Anonymous No.4440044]

>>4440021
>>4440031
>"learn fundamentals to improve"
>ok let's start with the most fundamental thing and figure out anime proportions
>"lol way too complex to explain just figure it out bro"
Honestly why the fuck do I even bother

[Anonymous No.4440048]

>>4440044
I just can't figure out how to stop rapidly oscillating between an intuition/copy approach and a fundies approach.
I post my shitty art, people tell me to learn fundies, I go looking for specific information on perspective/proportions/etc and everyone says "oh you actually just have to feel it and figure it out for yourself" which is exactly what I was fucking doig before.
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.4440052]

>>4440044
>>4440048
Look, you can either continue to complain or you can go out and study yourself instead of asking as if there's a singular simple answer.

[Anonymous No.4440059]

>>4440052
If there's no one answer then where am I supposed to start? Which set of proportions is most "fundamental"?

[Anonymous No.4440060]

>>4440059
That's for you to decide. Studies begin by someone asking a question they're curious about and then gathering the necessary data to conduct their method to reach a conclusion.

[Anonymous No.4440061]

>>4440048
>>4440059
I post my practice in this thread all the time, draw some sketches and stop falling in love with your first drawing. Draw the shapes of the characters of whatever you like. Stop listening to the retarded copyfags ITT,

Start training a fundie, to improve at other fundies.

[Anonymous No.4440063]

>>4440061
Fuck off you fucking schizo and never give me advice again

[Anonymous No.4440066]

>>4440060
That's literally what I do by making copies, drawing from imagination, and trying to correct mistakes.
I keep hearing that there's a magical base of knowledge called "fundies" that makes this process go much faster, but it never seems to materialize.

[Anonymous No.4440067]

>>4440044
/asg/

[Anonymous No.4440076]

>>4440048
>Copy drawings you like.
>Draw from imagination sometimes.
>Go through good courses from good teachers.
>Try and study things from life, draw them, think about why they are the way they are visually.

This is basically the routine of a good student. After some years you can go and balance this to have most of your output from your imagination (memory), but that's it, there's no secret or anything special.

Drawing is just the methodic application of the fundamentals, and the fundamentals are mostly learned through methodic practice.

Get a kid that has drawn for 10 years, mostly copying manga he likes and drawing what he wants from imagination, you'll see that he'll have strong fundamentals if the artists he copies have those as well.

Practice is the most essential, the rest of what you can do can only assist it.

[Anonymous No.4440092]

>>4440066
You shouldn't think of the fundamentals as something that makes the process go faster. Fundamentals reworded just means being able to draw good. If you can draw good, then studying another aspect of drawing obviously will be much easier. The fundamentals are already marked in the sticky if you want a refresher. They're just basic principles that never change.

[Anonymous No.4440094]

>>4440044
You're not going to "figure out" anime proportions by asking people here. You need to spend thousands of hours drawing and comparing with your own eyes. There's no hurt in asking that type of question, but if you're not stupid you surely realize that a picture says more than a thousand words in this case.

There's nothing stopping you from hunting down a bunch of character sheets with front/side shots of characters. You can load them up beside images of real people and compare. Will you suddenly internalize anime proportions by doing this? No. You must practice

>I just can't figure out how to stop rapidly oscillating between an intuition/copy approach and a fundies approach.
Here's an approach: 1. draw from imagination (while looking at tutorial/refs/anatomy diagrams) 2. copy your favorite artists (this is where you learn anime proportions) 3. draw from life/do perspective studies. The time you choose to allocate to either of these every day is up to you. If you keep these three steps in your head and draw a lot, the experience gained from drawing (and failing) will tell you which one is most important at the present.

[Anonymous No.4440110]

>>4440094
>You need to spend thousands of hours drawing and comparing with your own eyes.
Yeah. I get that. I'm doing that. Was just really frustrated today is all. It's unbelievably discouraging to hear "learn fundies" as a response to everything I draw and no one can explain what fundies are or how to practice them. I've looked for the knowledge, I've read Loomis, I promise. Still can't make an anime eye look right on a character who is looking very down and away. If you have refs please post them.
There's also that thread up with the faggot who was saying "if you're not good after 300 hours you should just quit" and that really, really got to me. I know he's wrong. But at the same time, still being this bad after investing so much time does start to shake my confidence.
I probably just need to get away from this place.

[Anonymous No.4440114]

I've had zero ideas lately so I decided to do this

[Anonymous No.4440118]

...Aaand this one as well.

[Anonymous No.4440177]

>>4440030
it's not a copyfag, it's an internet troll.

[Anonymous No.4440219]

i am looking at this picture at work, is her head actually small or is it just the perspective?

[Anonymous No.4440221]

>>4440219
that's just a small head.

[Anonymous No.4440224]

>>4440110
300 hours? lmao try like 5000 at least.

[Anonymous No.4440229]

>>4440118
looks great imo

[Anonymous No.4440262]

Tracegod itt, got better at art faster than light from the sun reached the Proxima Centauri.

[Anonymous No.4440267]

>>4440114
>>4440118
Looks good and anime.
Would be nice if you could give some guidance to people in this thread. But it would fall on deaf ears, or in this case blind eyes because we're all beyond help.

[Anonymous No.4440309]

>>4440262
It's so simple, people don't get it because they don't want to. The reality is that the more time you invest on copying, the better you are. If you aren't at the level for copying something, then tracing might be a good idea, then you try copying it again, then try drawing from memory.

Little by little you'll develop a visual library and gain draftsmanship from the sheer hours you put into it, just like that guy puts 8 hours every fucking day.

Then comes anon, anon draws 1 hour every day, "why am I not good?". Well...

I'd still recommend doing some courses and reading books so that you're learning from masters as well, but 90% of your skill I'd say will come from practice, and 90% or so of your practice should be copying shit from others. When you get good you can balance this more and draw more from memory, but until then you need to put in the hours.

[Anonymous No.4440314]

>>4440262
That's sir cunny smasher to you.

[Anonymous No.4440330]

Nah this ones more epic.

[Anonymous No.4440406]

Focusing on practice and few project
VS
Reading these threads more

Which is the best?
You guys are fast.

[Anonymous No.4440414]

anyone knows what's the name of this style of painting?

[Anonymous No.4440418]

>>4440414
Maximum exposure

[Anonymous No.4440422]

>>4440110
I'm probably abusing this analogy at this point but it's important to realize that learning to draw is difficult, just like picking up piano or whatever. Nobody is gonna play piano for 300 hours and be good. It's still Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, Gymnopédie No. 1, scales and maybe some sheet reading, I don't know. Imagine a pro pianist at a concert. That's pretty much the equivalent to whatever star animator or god pixiv illustrator you're pining for. They've been doing it seriously for a long time.

Again, drawing from imagination, copying your idols, drawing from life/learning perspective. The rest is up to your brain. Luckily most people can get super good at drawing if they think critically and don't mope around like a little bitch. If you're on 4chan and formulating sentences you can theoretically learn it.

If somebody simply tells you to "learn fundamentals" from now on, please just ignore it. The fundamentals are as deep as an abyss, depending on whom you ask only a modern 3D render engine can reach it. This doesn't mean that the word is taboo, I simply mean that it's terribly abstract/bad as actual critique. Consider constructive critique, like, "her eyes are placed too high" or "ears too small".

Pic related is a simple demonstration of how you might use references to learn proportion (and other things). It actually works. But don't just look at it like an idiot, draw it yourself in your drawing program. Why not copy what I did, with your own references? Maybe it turns out better. At any rate, if you post it in this thread we can all give advice to each other.

[Anonymous No.4440434]

Where do you anons usually get your gestures from? anime/manga or human beings?

[Anonymous No.4440469]

>>4440434
imagination

[Anonymous No.4440473]

>>4440434
mirrors have worked the best for me

[Anonymous No.4440489]

will I make more gains from tracing or copying

[Anonymous No.4440493]

>>4440489
try both and see which one works best for you

[Anonymous No.4440496]

>>4440422
learning the piano is WAY easier than learning how to draw

t. pianist

[Anonymous No.4440498]

where did i go oh so wrong

[Anonymous No.4440504]

>>4440496
I tried piano but found it harder than drawing

[Anonymous No.4440512]

>>4440498
You're trying to draw the shape of something your brain doesn't understand. Look at a ref.

[Anonymous No.4440517]

>>4440496
are you comparing playing already written music to drawing your own creative work? because doing simple observational copying is probably a more apt comparison. you can copy reasonably in a couple months, which is still staggering through beginner etudes in music.
how long does it take to write your own?

[Anonymous No.4440532]

>>4440498
close enough bro

just FEEL THE FORMS and try to figure out where you're messing up, and keep repeating the process. my shit was absolutely abysmal 2 months ago and i couldn't see half the problems. i'm sure in 2 more months this will look like shit too. cant believe i doubted a literal 1000 times folded ancient nipponese ninjitsu technique. copyfags are gonna make it.
>>/ic/thread/S4316963#p4326073

[Anonymous No.4440539]

>>4440489
only trace when you see you can't copy it well, copying engages your brain much more and is thus much better for learning.

[Anonymous No.4440540]

Some day all the suffering will end.

[Anonymous No.4440541]

>>4440517
true. you can't compare mechanical ability i.e. monkey see monkey do to creative ability. but if you can't do the former, the chances of being able to do the latter is 0%. even if you have ideas you won't be able to realize them. that's why all the classical composers could play an instrument at least half decently. the japs understand this and that's why they copy so much to get good

[Anonymous No.4440543]

>>4440489
i haven't encountered something i needed to trace yet. copying helps you see each form and start to understand how to construct them

>>4440540
nice bro now put it on a body

[Anonymous No.4440546]

fgoanon are you still alive

[Anonymous No.4440547]

>>4440532
fanks bruddah. idk what to expect bc i only started studying weebshit week ago. want to understand what make something look moe tho, because i feel everything i do feels more moe than more mature, don't want to be labelled as a kid diddler.

[Anonymous No.4440554]

>>4440547
The reaction when someone sees my pedo art is one of the best motivators though.

[Anonymous No.4440556]

>>4440532
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4440557]

>>4440554
id like to have a range though, i don't just want to draw cutting boards, also want to draw a multitude of things.

[Anonymous No.4440560]

>>4440422
I think it's so funny, people might think art is a lower form of expression than music.

With music, if someone asked "hey, do you think its a waste to learn to play smoke on the water?", people might think he's legit retarded.

But on art people ask themselves if it helps copying the works of other artists lmao. Even for traditional art, they make master studies. Why would it be different with weebshit?

[Anonymous No.4440566]

>>4440554
Alright I'm not gonna lie grey sketch kun there is something appealing about your work.

[Anonymous No.4440567]

>>4440547
>want to understand what make something look moe tho, because i feel everything i do feels more moe than more mature
copy the moest drawings you can find then, and your copies will be slightly less moe but still moe. moe is a difficult one because it's not really obvious as a style
>don't want to be labelled as a kid diddler
who cares bro most people will label you immediately and judge you whether you try to stop them or not. i want people to label me, i wish someone would call me up on the phone right now and call me a chimo so i could laugh at them

>>4440556
bro they're just copies of the top ones why have a blog for that?

[Anonymous No.4440569]

>>4440566
About time.

[Anonymous No.4440581]

>>4440566
stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.4440602]

>>4438949
0

[Anonymous No.4440614]

>>4440566
>>4440581
Though honestly though, there's some easy tricks to make your shit more appealing. That's why I'm not worried about coloring and shit.

[Anonymous No.4440617]

>4440614
Didn't think it was actually possible for you to get even worse than you were before.

[Anonymous No.4440623]

>>4440617
You've already outed yourself as a crab, I can't take you seriously.

Besides if you insulted a sketch i used a reference for, I'd be more inclined to care.

[Anonymous No.4440626]

I'm trying to get out of beg hell, and for some reason every time I try to draw anime-style eyes from imagination, I end up doing those shitty cartoon ones. It's like they are my default ones and I hate it.

Any advice?

[Anonymous No.4440628]

>>4440617
Everyone likes talking shit about grey sketch kun, but I doubt your work is any better.

[Anonymous No.4440631]

>>4440626
Study anime. Analyze artists you like, literally measure out the facial proportions they use and angles of the faces and make plenty of copies

[Anonymous No.4440633]

>>4440631

Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.4440637]

Who are the Gods of stylized fantasy illustrations?

[Anonymous No.4440668]

>>4440626
*imagination* is just memory, if you want to be able to draw something from *imagination*, first think about what it is that you want to draw.

do you want to draw a girl like, say, ryuko from Kill la Kill? Copy her, then after 5min try to draw it from *imagination*, you'll strain your brain trying to think how to do it, next time you try it will be easier. Do this until you can draw characters like her easily.

Also don't color your shit until you have a basic grasp on drawing, if your drawing is shit, coloring/rendering won't make it good.

[Anonymous No.4440676]

Isn't anime just a Loomis body with a stylized head put on? How should I draw the head?

[Anonymous No.4440681]

>>4440676
copy anime heads you like

[Anonymous No.4440688]

>>4439881
youve been here everyday for the past week haven't you

[Anonymous No.4440725]

>>4440688
Maybe, I'm just here all day so it seems like a week.

[Anonymous No.4440742]

>>4440498
I think it looks ok, probably just double down on the chicken scratch

[Anonymous No.4440745]

>>4440498
You got a twitter?

[Anonymous No.4440752]

>>4440676
No, it's a Bridgeman body with a stylized head.

[Anonymous No.4440753]

>>4440668
Good advice, anon. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4440756]

>>4440676
>he doesn't know how to follow deviantart tutorials that even kids can follow
/ic/ is pathetic.

[Anonymous No.4440759]

took the time to doddle and try to copy that style i liked but still need work.

[Anonymous No.4440760]

>>4440759
You draw some nice medium titties

[Anonymous No.4440773]

So guys any good artist to copy you can recommend me?


Call me lazy all you want, but hear my story first. You see, I was actually a western fag, but after the recent streak of SJWs ruining western enterteinment I decided to convert to anime


.... but the issue is that I don't know anything about artists beyond thinking the style is pretty rad.

Any recs?

[Anonymous No.4440776]

>>4440756
Links?

[Anonymous No.4440804]

>>4440745
i use insta more, https://twitter.com/thimg_ haven't posted on the thing for a while.

[Anonymous No.4440805]

>>4440773
Here's a few random ones of varying styles. Pick one or a few that you like and see who they like and follow.

https://twitter.com/kaiikarashi/media
https://twitter.com/ataboh/media
https://twitter.com/REDUM4/media
https://twitter.com/a8732330/media
https://twitter.com/nanora02/media
https://twitter.com/tabata_san11/media
https://twitter.com/waterkuma0/media
https://twitter.com/nanban319/media

[Anonymous No.4440808]

>>4440805
NTA, but. You've got good taste, anon. I'm always glad to add more people to my list to study even if it's already at 2k+

[Anonymous No.4440823]

>>4440805

I am that anon that asked. Thank you! I'm adding them to my study list.

[Anonymous No.4440824]

>>4439944
That's how I would see it as well. Both are incredibly slow for making gains on their own, too. It doesn't take that long to learn how to draw a 3D head by studying fundies, but learning how to draw appealing features is definitely something you should study, for example.

Fundies and studies compliment each other. Literally anyone can make it if they consciously practice both.

[Anonymous No.4440834]

Any critiques? Im roughly a week old on this board anything I can improve on? I know for certain I need to get my butt on gesture

[Anonymous No.4440840]

>>4440834
learn to rotate images for a start

[Anonymous No.4440846]

finally got to draw something after 6 months. thanks koronavirus

[Anonymous No.4440848]

>>4440846

[Anonymous No.4440852]

>>4440846
>>4440848
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4440853]

>>4440840

[Anonymous No.4440855]

>>4440840
holy shit im retarded

[Anonymous No.4440856]

>>4440532
god i coomed to that doujin so many times

[Anonymous No.4440886]

>>4440759
good job anon! keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4440915]

I'm shit at drawing bodies and I'm currently trying this method.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4440922]

I'm shit at drawing bodies and I'm currently trying this method to try to get out of beg hell.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4440925]

>>4440856
sauce

[Anonymous No.4440946]

>>4440922
Oh and I forgot the last step where my inks and color are so shit people don't think I did use construction and basic shape.

.... I hate myself.

[Anonymous No.4440966]

>>4440946
You forgot that fabric pulls anon

[Anonymous No.4440973]

>>4440966
Thank anon, gotta practice those.

[Anonymous No.4441036]

>>4440925
261074

[Anonymous No.4441041]

>>4440855
bro don't ink anything until you have a fully finished sketch

[Anonymous No.4441265]

[Anonymous No.4441271]

>>4441036
dank

[Anonymous No.4441381]

I love this sketch style.

[Anonymous No.4441388]

>>4441381

[Anonymous No.4441457]

[Anonymous No.4441485]

>>4438943
blog?

[Anonymous No.4441499]

How the fuck do I do a color selection in CSP?

[Anonymous No.4441692]

Can I get constructive criticism?

[Anonymous No.4441697]

>>4441692
Loomis

[Anonymous No.4441700]

>>4441692
on? Can barely see half the shit.

[Anonymous No.4441702]

>>4441457
may loomis save you.

[Anonymous No.4441703]

Which is better? Loomis or Hampton? Or should I do both?

[Anonymous No.4441710]

Refs. My hand accuracy getting better shows how little I know, it's hurts bros.

>>4441703
Try them both.

[Anonymous No.4441711]

>>4441703
Whichever works for you. They're all just basic starting points. Once you get into the flow of things you'll be using your own method when you don't need to follow their guidelines.
I see a lot of anime artists drawing a line down the center of a sphere immediately after drawing it to show the direction of the face and the height of the whole head, and I've started using that after studying Loomis for a bit.

[Anonymous No.4441715]

>>4441710
how do i draw clean smooth lines like you?

[Anonymous No.4441718]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd9YlgrhwWqCSiGwPwA_N_nqKfTLY1Kn8 coupled with proko's loomis videos are the single best resource for anime

prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.4441721]

>>4439270
>Every detail copied
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.4441724]

>>4441710
>>4441711
I'll try both then. I heard that both are good foundations.

[Anonymous No.4441725]

>>4441721
fucking dumbass

[Anonymous No.4441727]

>>4441715
Drawing shitloads, that's it.

[Anonymous No.4441728]

>>4441718
I suppose someone could learn using another guide that works for them. I've been using both a lot recently though, so I can vouch for them. Proko's a bit of a meme but he does condense most of Loomis's lessons within his short videos.
I don't really like starting by drawing the side of the head after drawing the sphere. Maybe if I studied the skull more that'd be easier, but if you're a beginner you're going to have a hard time knowing where to draw it. I find it much easier to draw in the chin first like Pin2D seems to do.

[Anonymous No.4441730]

>>4441692
>>4441700

[Anonymous No.4441731]

>>4441721
Retard

[Anonymous No.4441733]

Hi, can someone help me to do this kind of open jacket in this pose? im kind of desperate ..

[Anonymous No.4441761]

>>4441730
Back to fundies.

>>4441733
Boobs too high, right foot out of perspective. Jackets are too hard for me.

[Anonymous No.4441768]

>>4441703
>Loomis or Hampton?
Grey sketch kun

[Anonymous No.4441769]

Can anyone redline this for me? To me it looks okay but I feel like something might be off (I have been staring at it for a while) I’ve been trying to study anatomy so I don’t think it’s my worst but I could still use some help.

[Anonymous No.4441771]

>>4441381
>>4441388
more art like this?

[Anonymous No.4441774]

>>4441769
It's too unfinished for a quality redline. Keep going then ask for a critique.

[Anonymous No.4441785]

>>4441774
>It’s too hard for me to give critique.

[Anonymous No.4441800]

>>4441785
fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.4441809]

>>4441769
probably try adding an eye to here instead of scribbles?

[Anonymous No.4441816]

fuck this shit i give up, i'm going back to fundies.

[Anonymous No.4441822]

Besides the background that is terrible

[Anonymous No.4441823]

>>4441816
Reminder copying is dumb, and you're dumb if you copy.

[Anonymous No.4441825]

>>4441822
Blog? I love this.

[Anonymous No.4441830]

>>4441825
https://twitter.com/dajoubf33

[Anonymous No.4441884]

>>4441816
What does back to fundies mean? What sorts of things are you going to draw? I'm genuinely curious, I'm lost as fuck with all these different learning methods so I like to hear from others.

[Anonymous No.4441885]

>>4441884
Loomis

[Anonymous No.4441890]

>>4441884
>>4441885
This is unironically a good answer. Loomis had good teachings in word and methods. You can't draw a proper face without knowing where everything goes. Is one of the things he says, but he also has a lot of great things.

[Anonymous No.4441898]

>just realized I've been drawing symbol drawings all this week
lol at my life

>>4441822
Pelvis not attached, floating girls are boring.

[Anonymous No.4441942]

>>4441885
>>4441890
People still draw like shit after reading Loomis. Every single person in /beg/ is both reading Loomis and drawing like garbage. Makes it kind hard to take seriously. How do you know when you're ready to "move on" from Loomis? What level of quality should your drawings be?
I want to nail this down in terms of specifics that go beyond the word "Loomis", because all I see is Loomisfags flailing around and being just as shit as copyfags.

[Anonymous No.4441947]

>>4441942
You don't read Loomis only once. You may think they draw like garbage, but the truth is they got better and that's all that matters. Do you care about getting better? Then that's all you need. You seem more like you're trying to look for some secret material that'll rocket you to a master. If you focus on getting better bit by bit, eventually you'll see you're getting closer to where you want to be.

[Anonymous No.4441974]

I wanna study cute little shota's, but loomis boys are too masculine.
What do i do?

[Anonymous No.4441980]

>>4441947
>You may think they draw like garbage, but the truth is they got better and that's all that matters.
This only confirms my suspicions that there's a double standard for copyfags and fundiesfags. If a copyfag draws like shit he's a retard, failure, shows that fundies is the only way, etc. if a fundiesfag draws like shit then that's totally based and look at how much he's improving and surely he's on the right path to success. It's so blatant.
>you seem to think that there's some secret material that'll rocket you to a master
No. I literally do not. I think the exact opposite of that. I think the only way to get good is a shitload of practice and trial and error. If anyone thinks that there's secret knowledge, it's the fundiesfags. Their answer to literally every mistake in someone's work is "Loomis/fundies". What in the world am I supposed to take from that except, knowing Loomis/fundies will allow you to draw well? But when you push them it always turns into "no just knowing Loomis won't help you draw well, it's actually Loomis plus thousands of hours of practice plus all this other shit will allow you to draw well". Which is a hell of a disclaimer to forget to include.

[Anonymous No.4441984]

>>4441974
Are you sure you read Loomis? He has an entire section on drawing younger people even to like toddlers.

[Anonymous No.4441985]

>>4441974
Go to the police station, they have the answer for that.

[Anonymous No.4441997]

>>4441974
Draw some cunny instead you retarded pedo.

[Anonymous No.4442001]

>>4441980
This confirms that copyfags have brain rot.

[Anonymous No.4442005]

>>4442001
Why don't you respond to the points I made instead of just posting a smug one-liner and hoping you can trick people into thinking you btfo'd me.

[Anonymous No.4442009]

>>4441985
Huh? It's police station, not an Art Academy, you dumbass, they obviously can't help me

[Anonymous No.4442011]

>>4441984
They are either look too babyish or masculine, just look at it

[Anonymous No.4442026]

>>4442005
How about you quit wasting time writing some mini essay and go draw. People like you are always focusing on the wrong things.

[Anonymous No.4442029]

>>4441769
the anatomy is really beg , it's way more complicated than just learning the lenght of the limbs and such im still stuck there, the leg barely has any form in both girls, the knee on that girl it's atrocious, i cant give you the anatomy breakdown on that i havent touched that yet, but it definitely doenst look like that so heres more or less somethign that does lok more like a leg , also you are placing the bone in the middle of the leg thats wrong, or more like theres more fat in the inner leg, and the arm jsut like the leg 0 form, the triceps when is relaxed and pressend against or just close to the body it looks bigger, it doesn't have too look hyper realistic but at least make that change visible , but those arms have 0 form like did you even studied anatomy not even memeing. and for the head the eyes are way too sunked on the left and his forehead is almost in a 45 grades angle and i feel the ear is a bit too far , maybe his head needs to be abit more bigger in the back but desu the head it's probably the thing you can give you more space? to do it in your own way just don't put the ear too far back or too close to the eyes

[Anonymous No.4442031]

>>4442029
Not that anon, but come on calling this beg anatomy is a stretch. He just missed a fat deposit

[Anonymous No.4442038]

>>4442031
>thats not beg,
LOL ahahahaha
Good one anon, hahahahaha very good joke. Such a silly thing to type.

[Anonymous No.4442044]

>>4440637
Akihiko Yoshida

[Anonymous No.4442060]

Did some poses and i like the eyes but what do you thing.


Also can someone put hair on the left drawing. i don't know if its possible and i been erasing for hours but maybe its the eyes not being nice....i don't know

[Anonymous No.4442075]

Taking my fundies for a spin, no ref.

[Anonymous No.4442113]

>>4442029
Thank you so much for this this is exactly what I was looking for! I was working on the lineart and I did fix the head when doing the lineart. Does the position of the right characters eye look alright? I struggled a bit with that.
Also do you have some recommendations of where I can learn anatomy similar to your style? Like "the bone in the middle of the leg" makes so much sense. I was starting loomis but maybe I didnt get far enough to learn how you did.
Thanks again though!

[Anonymous No.4442138]

>>4442113
the best book imo to learn anatomy is anatomy for sculptors however is more an anatomy book than a how to draw anatomy, the eyes onthe right or her left, it kinda looks flat but i think it's good enough for now and her eyebrow the thinner part should be pointing down a bit more, as for the anatomy i know you didn't ask for it but is still showing major problems but i wont tell you to stop drawing however just keep in mind that most of your anatomy problems are because you don't know it ,even the simple details, pic related it's how you should see the body as you draw this makes it so easy to know how to convey those forms more realistic im not talking about realistic as an style

[Anonymous No.4442209]

Any advice to get out of beg hell faster?

I'm currently studying Freehand figure drawing for illustrators for the manequin and Tadashi Osawa for gesture,

[Anonymous No.4442229]

>>4442209
Do that, but a lot.

[Anonymous No.4442252]

>>4442209
Why worry about speed when you’re already improving? Greed is dangerous.

[Anonymous No.4442286]

>>4442229
>>4442252

Thanks for the advice guys!

[Anonymous No.4442290]

>>4442229
Could you take an hour or two on a drawing so I can see how well you can draw? It would be the most kind gift, please and thank you.

[Anonymous No.4442292]

>>4442290
He already explained in the last thread, he is a self-admitted /beg/ and that grey sketches he posts are his best work.

[Anonymous No.4442304]

It’s been months. I fear that fishine anon may have just given up drawing altogether. We could have learned if it was worth it.

[Anonymous No.4442308]

>>4442290
Fundies are life, you can't do anything without fundies. I never stop until I have them all.

[Anonymous No.4442309]

>>4442304
>fishine anon
Who?

[Anonymous No.4442310]

>>4442308
So is that a yes? I’m not very good at reading poetry.

[Anonymous No.4442327]

>>4442310
LET ME DO MY FUCKING FUUUUNDIES

[Anonymous No.4442331]

>>4442327
didnt you say all you did was symbol drawing?

[Anonymous No.4442332]

I cling to every small bit of improvement as a glimmer of light in the immense darkness.

[Anonymous No.4442344]

>>4442331
Something clicked when I remembered about perspective, not sure.

[Anonymous No.4442352]

>>4442309
An absolute /asg/ legend who grabbed every panel and drawing of fishine’s faces to be used as a reference for copying everyday for a month. Easily went through a thousand faces. Although fishine anon shortly disappeared afterwards once the quest was completed and hasn’t been seen since.

[Anonymous No.4442357]

>>4442344
Bro.
Imma help you out.
What you are doing is not fundies.

[Anonymous No.4442364]

>>4442357
Oh well, I draw for myself anyway.

[Anonymous No.4442410]

Who are your artist inspirations, friends?

[Anonymous No.4442442]

>>4442410
The Pixiv Top 100 Daily Rankings

[Anonymous No.4442446]

>>4442031
post your work right now dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.4442465]

>>4442446
Make me brainlet NGMI

[Anonymous No.4442506]

>>4442410
Pixiv top 3

[Anonymous No.4442507]

[Anonymous No.4442508]

>>4442507
Hitokaku p42 btw

[Anonymous No.4442509]

>>4442352
I remember him, sadly he was a retard, and didn't even know how to even copy right.

[Anonymous No.4442545]

>>4442507
>wtf is he doing
>these lines aren't fundies
Meanwhile at chads desk with his no refs.

[Anonymous No.4442612]

sthis shit is hard

[Anonymous No.4442634]

>>4442612
aight im done for today

[Anonymous No.4442700]

>>4442138
Artist source of that pic?

[Anonymous No.4442704]

>>4442442
What a basic bitch

[Anonymous No.4443143]

>>4442704
What are your artist inspirations?

[Anonymous No.4443180]

>>4443143
grey sketch kun

[Anonymous No.4443185]

>>4443143
Grey sketch kun

[Anonymous No.4443379]

[Anonymous No.4443392]

>>4443379

[Anonymous No.4443398]

>>4443379
How do I draw hair like you senpai?

[Anonymous No.4443412]

>>4443379
>never fixed the boob height and foot perspective
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4443437]

>>4443412
>critique foot and boob
>never draws foot and boob
neck yourself please

[Anonymous No.4443438]

>>4443412
Still better than anything you'll ever draw.

[Anonymous No.4443441]

>>4443437
you are setthing friend, fix your beg drawing now

[Anonymous No.4443444]

>>4443438
t.faggot who doesn't even draw to begin with it

[Anonymous No.4443446]

>>4443444
>projecting

[Anonymous No.4443449]

>>4442545
Why are you wasting time on these weird grey chicken scratch sketches when you could be practicing fundies?

[Anonymous No.4443452]

>>4443446
It’s true considering how many people actually post art in this geneal.

[Anonymous No.4443454]

>>4443379
>when you fall for the ''only copy'' meme

[Anonymous No.4443455]

>>4443412
Why do you exist

[Anonymous No.4443456]

>>4443437
When you finally master drawing floating girls in a white background, I'll have mastered the ability to draw girls in seconds from imagination.

[Anonymous No.4443459]

>>4443454
If that's what "only copying" gets you then he's doing pretty good for himself. It's better than what the average Loomisfag posts anyway.

[Anonymous No.4443461]

>>4443456
>those legs
Ouch.
Back to fundies, kid.

[Anonymous No.4443462]

>>4443454
not him but pyw

[Anonymous No.4443466]

>>4443459
> he's doing pretty good
copyfags will settle for that

> It's better than what the average Loomisfag posts anyway.
while in reality ''loomisfags'' dab on a daily basis on copyfags with their superior redline

oh no no no

[Anonymous No.4443469]

>>4443454
based

[Anonymous No.4443470]

>>4443444
>doesn't even draw to begin with
I'm >>4442332 and >>4440540

[Anonymous No.4443472]

>>4443459
>cope

[Anonymous No.4443473]

>>4443454
I'd rather draw and paint like >>4443379
than this >>4443412 or >>4443456

[Anonymous No.4443474]

>>4443379
ooof.

[Anonymous No.4443476]

>>4443461
I don't treat my artwork as a extension of myself.

>>4443459
Great bro, he spent a week on a subpar picture, I'd look at for a second.

[Anonymous No.4443479]

>>4443476
You truly are a magnificent troll, with a level of dedication and subtlety that you don't see much of anymore.

[Anonymous No.4443480]

>>4443466
NGMI-chan go back to your cave

[Anonymous No.4443486]

>>4443466
pyw
>superior redline
It's incredibly rare to see anyone on /ic/ redline anything, it's always "I'm too busy" or "that's not even good enough to redline". And if someone does happen to post a redline, it'll either be incomprehensible or worse than the original.

[Anonymous No.4443487]

>>4443454
Fucking based, lmao.

[Anonymous No.4443491]

>>4443473
If this is what I can draw in 5 seconds, imagine what It's like when I spend a week.

[Anonymous No.4443494]

>>4443491
I don't need to imagine, you've already told me you can't draw for that long. You can't even prove it to yourself.

[Anonymous No.4443495]

>>4443494
He has a point, anon. If something like that takes him 5 seconds, then he drew one drawing for a week it will turn out a lot better than the artwork posted above.

[Anonymous No.4443496]

>>4443495
Oh god please don't start buying into grey sketch kun's cult of personality.
When he posts good art I'll call him a good artist, until then all he's posted is /beg/-tier scribbles so that's what I'll call him.

[Anonymous No.4443500]

>>4443496
>reddit told me finished pictures must be done in a long periods of time!!
>YOUR ART ISN'T REAL BRO!!
Have you listened to your own screeching?

[Anonymous No.4443503]

>>4443500
Why are you posting it if you don't want a critique?
You're trolling and not in a clever way.

[Anonymous No.4443506]

>>4443503
Just copy anime is such good critique, kek. Copyfags are retarded as always.

[Anonymous No.4443509]

>>4443503
I do want critiques, but critiquing my finished art is useless to me, because I already know the problem with it because I'm not a retard, but if you criticize the fundamental way I draw, I can actually learn something, and way in you're correct. I have actually learned stuff from this place.

[Anonymous No.4443510]

>>4443509
way in if you're correct*

[Anonymous No.4443512]

>>4443379
i don't want to jump in the bandwagon but why did you considered this acceptable not that the rest is any good but this is beyond me

[Anonymous No.4443515]

>>4443512
I don't understand why everyone is shitting on this guy so hard.
From a quick glance it's the best original work in the thread.
It's anime study general not anime professionals general.
I mean there's plenty of worse work here if you want to shit on that instead.
Jeez.

[Anonymous No.4443516]

>>4443506
Learning to copy a reference image is probably the most important thing you can learn and it should be something you learn to do if you are interested in dramatically improving.
First let me just say this as concisely as possible. If you cannot copy another image/photo faithfully, what chance do you have of giving your own concepts and ideas any justice. If you cannot copy a face and get the proportions right how will you be able to visualize one in your head and do the same.


Copying is easier then drawing from scratch. You can make observations and comparisons. It's less draining emotionally and physically. Overall its the perfect way of knowing how well you handle your pencil.


I'm not saying here that you must faithfully reproduce and image to be do this well but you must be able to capture the essence of a drawing/photograph with no anxiety or frustration. This will transfer into your art as you gain confidence in your individual strokes as well as gathering innate knowledge on anatomy, facial relationships and various other shapes and concepts.


As someone whose dipped in and out of this and finally put hand to the grindstone its clear to me ignoring this for as long as I did as a core part of my learning was a mistake on my part.


Here is my suggestion if you want to see some serious improvements in your hand control and line confidence. Every image you save or fave on those social sites you frequent you need to consider those drawings to tackle. Your goal is to absorb something from them, not just save or fave em for later. Save em in a folder or throw them in tabs. Tackle them DAILY. I MEAN THIS. Your job is to clear this queue. Cram your line art on a page in a sketch pad. Just pound through all the parts of drawing you like or focus on things you week with.

[Anonymous No.4443518]

>>4443515
>From a quick glance
until you open the thumbnail

[Anonymous No.4443520]

>>4443516
tldr?

[Anonymous No.4443523]

>>4443506
I never told him that fagget, I told him to neck himself because he gives shit-tier critiques while posting shit tier """""drawing"""""

[Anonymous No.4443524]

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[Anonymous No.4443525]

>>4443520
tldr read the sticky

[Anonymous No.4443526]

>>4443524
The fuck?

[Anonymous No.4443528]

>>4443525
so copy bad and fundies good, ok

[Anonymous No.4443530]

Sticky literally says to do both you fucking mong, read the sticky

[Anonymous No.4443536]

>>4443524
Based

[Anonymous No.4443538]

>>4443379
kek

[Anonymous No.4443554]

>>4443528
Yes

[Anonymous No.4443565]

>>4441499
Not him but I also want to know how to get good at coloring in CSP.

[Anonymous No.4443580]

>>4440773
My favorite animator/character desiner is Takahiro Kishida, he doesn't have twitter but you could search some of his settei book like Baccano in setteidream.

If you want to copy moe art style try Masato Anno:
https://twitter.com/atasom/media

Masayoshi Tanaka is more balanced between moe and pretty.
https://twitter.com/tanamasa0119

Beautiful/Pretty drawings:
Yoneyama Mai (also subscribe her youtube channel, she posted her speedpaint):
https://twitter.com/yonema
Shota Iwasaki:
https://twitter.com/tarou2

Ecchi/Cool:
Ryo Imamura: https://twitter.com/jusjusojus
Taiki Konno: https://twitter.com/konnotato

Also you might want to copy im@s animators like Atsushi Nishigori (try download his artbook TELEGENIC at setteidream or exhentai)
Yuusuke Matsuo:
https://www.sakugabooru.com/pool/show/39
China:
https://twitter.com/kg_ui
Satoshi Furuhashi:
https://twitter.com/fullhs

Realistic:
Naoki Kobayashi's comiket book
https://www.sakugabooru.com/pool/show/51

Actually, I think Sakugabooru needs to be added to OP link for resources:
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=settei+

You can find literally thousands of settei/character designs there, even key animation/genga.

[Anonymous No.4443583]

fuck drawing cubes, I'm just going to copy my way into getting money from patreon with my lewd drawings.

[Anonymous No.4443597]

>>4443583
the marketingpill claims another soul

[Anonymous No.4443600]

>>4443580
Futoshi Nishiya was also one of the best
http://setteidreams.net/settei/liz-and-the-blue-bird/
http://setteidreams.net/settei/free/

It's such a tragedy he died in KyoAni arson.

[Anonymous No.4443602]

>>4443379

>>4443412
>>4443437
>>4443438
>>4443454
>>4443455
>>4443473
>>4443474
Damn i just wanted to know if at least is decent. Thanks for the time to reply tho

[Anonymous No.4443606]

>>4443602
The more (you)'s you get means how good it is.

[Anonymous No.4443607]

>>4443512
Yeah i looks terrible. I was tired af and i was kind of rushing

[Anonymous No.4443611]

>>4443607
Your art actually okay, just maybe try to look at real life reference once in a while.

[Anonymous No.4443619]

>>4443600
I kekked when I heard that moefag shitters got burned up.

[Anonymous No.4443621]

>>4443611
Thank you anon, next illustration i will do that

[Anonymous No.4443636]

>>4443619
Not surprising that came from you. Soulless ngmi grey anon.

[Anonymous No.4443644]

>>4443379


>>4443398
>>4443412
>>4443437
>>4443438
>>4443454
>>4443466
>>4443494
>>4443495
>>4443496
This is the illustration i Copied.

[Anonymous No.4443658]

>>4443644
You should study a little bit of fundies. Like how the body arches back and make it looks natural. Well, the original art you copied is okay, probably the head is a bit unnatural, but it has good forms other wise (the way she stretched her arms and back). My suggestion is to look at this good redlining/correction book from animator Kiyotaka Oshiyama.
https://exhentai.org/g/1508582/e58c305af2/

The book is a collection of corrections he gave to people who submitted their arts to him.

[Anonymous No.4443663]

>>4443658
>https://exhentai.org/g/1508582/e58c305af2/
It sends me to exhentai.org and the page is blank..

[Anonymous No.4443676]

>>4443658
my bad, is e-gallery. I got it know

[Anonymous No.4443679]

>>4443636
I'm gmi just so I can show you how retarded copyfags are, brb 1000 heads.

[Anonymous No.4443683]

>>4443663
>>4443676
Yeah probably your account is too new to access exhentai, but it should be on e-hentai.

Oh, also I think Atmosphere's (a doujin circle) artbooks are pretty good to copy, they have it at artbook's mega folder:
https://mega.nz/#F!DVt00SJI!IIMPOjhnBj87z9DtSxjWdw!eBsExZqT

The members are Yoneyama Mai. Iwasahi Shouta (tarou2), and Shuhei Handa (ebisu).

[Anonymous No.4443685]

>>4443683
Thank you so much for the help anon and taking the time to reply

[Anonymous No.4443699]

>>4443644

[Anonymous No.4443701]

>>4443644
>it was actually a copyfag

[Anonymous No.4443704]

>>4443701
Yes, wasnt pretty obvious? i took the body structure

[Anonymous No.4443707]

>>4443704
Don't be discouraged, most of reaction image posters aren't going to make it. They've never posted their works after all.

[Anonymous No.4443711]

>>4443707
just like you...

[Anonymous No.4443714]

Pablo Uchida just dropped some good shit
https://twitter.com/pablocafe
https://twitter.com/pablocafe/status/1242464903111143424
https://twitter.com/pablocafe/status/1242471920584380416
https://twitter.com/pablocafe/status/1242476213089603585

He's one of character designers for Gundam Hathaway movie, and it looks so pretty. The other character designer/animation director is Naoyuki Onda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPUwk7tRCM8

[Anonymous No.4443715]

>>4443619
based as always

[Anonymous No.4443717]

>>4443714

[Anonymous No.4443718]

>>4443580
>>4443600
high quality post. thanks for putting that together, anon. didn't know about the "settei" tag

[Anonymous No.4443719]

>>4443663
lurk more retard

[Anonymous No.4443747]

>>4443707
You shouldn’t be outing yourself like that, anon.

[Anonymous No.4443758]

>>4443707
pyw

[Anonymous No.4443848]

How do I know if the anime I want to copy will teach me the right skills?
What if the anime has bad anatomy, but since I'm a beginner I can't tell it's bad and learn bad anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4443857]

>>4443848
copy things that look like what you want to draw.
if you want to learn anatomy go learn anatomy.
it's not that fucking hard

[Anonymous No.4443859]

>>4443848
Get an anatomy book, do some 5 min pose studies of naked humans every now and then, and post your anime copies here. If your anatomy is obviously bad, people should tell you. Even if you can't see bad anatomy now you'll gradually get better at seeing, nothing to worry about

[Anonymous No.4443944]

I haven't been visiting these threads for a while, tell me grey sketch is still here being based.

[Anonymous No.4443967]

>>4443944
No. He's stopped because he realized he wasn't improving after attempting a drawing only an hour in length.

[Anonymous No.4444019]

Has anyone in this general ever made it?
Seems like many people post for a month or two then give up when they don't improve.

[Anonymous No.4444024]

>>4444019
What you talk about is the entire state of the board in general. /asg/ only helps you get the necessary materials to get better, the rest is up to you.

[Anonymous No.4444063]

>>4444019
I haven't made it, but I have been practicing for over a year and haven't quit yet.

[Anonymous No.4444133]

>>4444063
pyw

[Anonymous No.4444138]

Any thoughts? When I clean up my sketches I end up hating them because then I can see all my mistakes, I keep coming back and never finish anything.

[Anonymous No.4444147]

>>4444138
It's hurting my brain. The back of the head says its facing down, but his face his facing up.

[Anonymous No.4444197]

one day i can draw and the next i can't

the bottom is from now and top if from morning. am i being paranoid. didn't draw hair for bottom cause i wass erasing to much and thinking it was bad

[Anonymous No.4444200]

>>4444197
forgot

[Anonymous No.4444211]

>>4444200
>copynigger

there's your answer

[Anonymous No.4444217]

>>4444211
b-b-b-based

[Anonymous No.4444218]

>>4443848
Copy from animator's artbooks, key frames, or something that not pixiv, deviantart "illustrators".

[Anonymous No.4444220]

>>4444211
>>4444217
Why am I convinced you two are just same person?

[Anonymous No.4444221]

>>4444217
>pic related
holy based

[Anonymous No.4444225]

>>4444211
i mean yea somewhat since i'm learning from my fav artist.
>>4444217
I will rape you

[Anonymous No.4444230]

>>4444197
>>4444200
Keep at it. I love your progress. It's great.

[Anonymous No.4444235]

>>4444225
>somewhat
these are straight up copies , you aren't retaining shit becuse you only copied, you need to study his drawings the way he draws everything or just the parts that you want to emulate, you aren't doing it right if you are having those problems

[Anonymous No.4444248]

>>4444235
>you need to study his drawings the way he draws everything or just the parts that you want to emulate,
so what i been doing and the eyes?

>>4444235
>these are straight up copies
im trying to emulate his work. its the advice i get from everyone here
"find a artstyle you like and learn,copy ect ect"

[Anonymous No.4444249]

>>4444225
What are you learning exactly?

[Anonymous No.4444259]

>>4444249
copying the eyes of a specific picture he has that i really like from his artstyle. he doesn't have much of the same style since it changes but this one picture really made me wanna learn it

[Anonymous No.4444404]

you aren't railing this dumb fuck copyfag harder fuck him

[Anonymous No.4444408]

>>4444404
shooting for dubs

[Anonymous No.4444537]

space juan practice

[Anonymous No.4444569]

>>4444537
garbage lmao

[Anonymous No.4444632]

>>4444537
Ignore the reaction image poster a.k.a the crab grey anon, keep drawing! You're doing good,

[Anonymous No.4444712]

>>4444537
better than me. whats your secret

[Anonymous No.4444962]

>>4444537
>two on the right look like Muzan from kny
>left ones look like something from one punch man
>it's neither of those artists

[Anonymous No.4444963]

>>4443580
thanks subunga-kun

i hope you frequent these shitty threads more in the future

[Anonymous No.4445057]

>>4444235
>you aren't doing it right if you are having those problems
Then post your fucking problem-free work.
God damn you fundiesfags piss me off, when people actually press you you go "oh no, even if you do everything using the right method you'll still make lots of mistakes and you'll need lots of practice, there's no secret to drawing perfect every time", but then whenever someone has any drawing problem at all, you're right back to "well if you JUST learned fundies and did everything using the exact right method you wouldn't have any problems." Which one fucking is it? Is fundies a magic bullet or not?

[Anonymous No.4445064]

>>4445057
Disregard fundiesfags, disregard copyfags, embrace both practices and rise above mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.4445083]

>>4445057
yopu don't get in one day maybe you should ughhh practice more but you shouldnt really be having problems if you had studied the things you wanted to replicate so you either are just starting or you are not going all the way

[Anonymous No.4445093]

>>4445083
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4445095]

>>4445083
>>4445093
There shouldn't be a problem posting your work assuming you have studied.

[Anonymous No.4445113]

>>4443944
>>4443967
He is literally a few posts above.

[Anonymous No.4445326]

How the fuck I draw if my hands never stop sweating?

[Anonymous No.4445340]

>>4445326
Lose weight.

[Anonymous No.4445367]

>>4444963
Who's subunga

[Anonymous No.4445407]

>>4445340
stop being so fricken based

[Anonymous No.4445498]

I'm sure its easy to tell who this was inspired by

[Anonymous No.4445524]

>>4445498
No? Enlighten us please.

[Anonymous No.4445537]

>>4445524
Yomu (sgt epper) this pic by them.

[Anonymous No.4445598]

>>4445340
>Lose weight.
I'm not fat, HELP ME GREY SKETCH KUN

[Anonymous No.4445601]

>>4445498
How long to draw this?

[Anonymous No.4445676]

>>4444537
more practice
also for that anon yeah, his eyes sometimes look like opm's style but it's faces are more froggy looking

[Anonymous No.4445684]

>>4445598
I dry my hands with water often and use gloves.

[Anonymous No.4445740]

Do you guys have any images of anime artists trying to draw "realistic" images? I'm curious if their style influences even their real work or if they're more like a photocopier.

[Anonymous No.4445748]

>>4445740

[Anonymous No.4445751]

>>4445740

[Anonymous No.4445752]

>>4445748

anime

[Anonymous No.4445793]

>>4445684
>I dry my hands with water
Come on you can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.4445797]

>>4445793
The cold stops them from sweating, your choice.

[Anonymous No.4445836]

>>4445752
>>4445748
Ah, this is useful to look at. I get a bit self conscious when some anons suggest you need to basically be a one-for-one photocopier to understand form. You know, like that one spongebob scene: draw a perfect hyper realistic head and then erase the details until you get an anime girl.

>>4445793
>>4445326
Get a small desk fan and aim it at your hands. Helps me

[Anonymous No.4445903]

New Thread:
>>4445898
>>4445898
>>4445898

[Anonymous No.4445912]

Hi /asg/, I haven't been visiting the threads lately, I drew a gift for my friend of her character, I hope you like it

[Anonymous No.4445913]

>>4445912
How do I get as good as you?