IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART

[Anonymous No.4429899]

please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4424889


READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.
Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4429900]

Loomis is power!!!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4429972]

Hope she's not too ugly

[Anonymous No.4429989]

Is looking at poses and then drawing them a good way to learn a decent anatomy? First two on the left are from looking at pics and the third one far right is combining both (which essentially it's from imagination)

[Anonymous No.4429993]

>>4429989
I don't see why it's not a good way to learn anatomy

[Anonymous No.4429994]

Not quite done yet, but I’m really enjoying this self quarantine time. This is my backyard

[Anonymous No.4429995]

>>4429993
Maybe I asked the wrong question. .
Is it a good way to learn AND draw anatomy from "imagination"?

[Anonymous No.4429996]

>>4429972
I think the face is almost good, but the space between the nose and eye makes that eye look a little wonky. Her neck’s a bit fat, too.

[Anonymous No.4430001]

>>4429995
yes, it's our holy grail. Sadly that's hard and no easy method. Lot's of observation from reality + photographs AND imagination drawing without references. It's important to do the latter because if you only copy your eye will only create with a reference and that's why renderfags exist. Also, recheck for anatomical and proportion errors all your drawings. And draw from life. Go to as many live model classes as possible.

[Anonymous No.4430004]

>>4429989
I would say study Hampton and do that in conjunction with drawing poses. Drawing is always good, but why not stand on the shoulders of the giants before you?

Anatomy has been studied for a long time, and there have been many great artists and teachers figuring out tips and tricks along the way.

[Anonymous No.4430021]

any glaring issues with this?

[Anonymous No.4430033]

>>4430021
The main jarring thing is the elbow lines in the forearms in mid girl. The line where the forearm extenson musles join the humerus. When the middle girl is pushing away the guy you should put the bicep crook (the small "hole" where the biceps ends and where you bend the arm). That joining line you do is only seen from an external view of the arm, and we are currently watching an internal view of the middle girls arm. If you leave them, it gives the wrong impression the forearms are twisted.

[Anonymous No.4430036]

>>4429989
I hate that you draw and shade just like me anon. Do it better for the both of us.

[Anonymous No.4430038]

>>4430021
How do I draw good feet and hands like you?

[Anonymous No.4430071]

just finished this. anyone see anything heinously wrong with it besides COOM?

[Anonymous No.4430075]

>use rough pencil brush to do lines
>come out great, feel satisfied

>use pen brush to do lines
>lines look imperfect, start all over
how do i break my dependance on the pencil brush? I want nice clean lines and this ain't cuttin it.

[Anonymous No.4430077]

>>4429996
Thanks Anon, now that you point that out her eye does look like it's way too far to the side. I'm also now noticing her ear is not where it should be. It looks melted off with the way it looks now. The lips still brother me so I'll have to do some studies on lips soon.

[Anonymous No.4430111]

>>4430071
her dang pussy is too low
her legs look odd, especially at the hip, I get that she's supposed to be a robot or whatever but it just looks weird, not in a good way. She is way off balance, almost looks like she's falling to our right.

Look at some references and compare it to your work. Look at the way the spine and legs bend in that position, (pic related, pretty bad reference but the closest I could find to yours)

[Anonymous No.4430123]

>>4430075
Make more interesting lines with the pen

[Anonymous No.4430155]

>>4430033
I think I get what you mean. I'll work on that

>>4430038
I honestly can't tell what's sincere on this board anymore

[Anonymous No.4430163]

>>4430111
good to know, thanks for the insight

[Anonymous No.4430176]

>>4429899
Random studies, 3 min each.

[Anonymous No.4430178]

>>4430021
The one in the centre is okay but you obviously haven't figures out how to draw faces in perspective yet.

[Anonymous No.4430187]

Okay, I looked at principles of drawing hair, but I can't do it and have it come out looking nice. Need more practice on that front. Also need to practice using that shading book, and I don't understand clothes at all so that goes on the list too.

Been slacking on copying, did nothing beyond the first two. I can only do it slowly but I will try to finish 5-6 by end of March. It should help with hair, and I'll hopefully get rid of these mob chara eyes and learn to draw them in detail.

[Anonymous No.4430198]

>>4430021
cute feet Anon!

[Anonymous No.4430199]

Started doing more anatomy studies. 3 minutes each. Also reading Anatomy for Sculptors if I don't understand wtf I'm looking at.

[Anonymous No.4430233]

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DRAW THE ABS/PELVIS/UPPER LEG THIS SHIT IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE
Every part of the body I draw is shitty because I'm a /beg/ but this feels like the last area of the body I have absolutely zero understanding of. Everything from the bottom of the rib cage to the thighs is a mystery to me.

[Anonymous No.4430301]

Its too hard for me boys. I cant do it. I have no discipline or confidence. i'm just going to consume media the whole day. I hope all of you will make it and thanks everyone that helped me

[Anonymous No.4430306]

>>4430301
Unbelievably based

[Anonymous No.4430310]

>>4430233
Feel the form.

[Anonymous No.4430311]

>>4430301
Based quitter.

[Anonymous No.4430312]

>>4430310
I don't know what the form is.
The variability in the length of people's torsos confuses me.

[Anonymous No.4430314]

>>4429900
Nice dude, these are some of the best Loomis heads I've seen in /beg/, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4430318]

>>4430301
see you tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4430322]

>>4430318
No! im giving up shut up!

[Anonymous No.4430352]

Some quarantined loomis exercices

[Anonymous No.4430370]

damn it i'm stuck

[Anonymous No.4430382]

Quick sketch to take a break from loomis study

[Anonymous No.4430411]

Coomis study

[Anonymous No.4430414]

>>4430411

[Anonymous No.4430422]

>>4430370
Everything looks flat. Gotta feel the form bro. Try drawing individual body parts for a little while, like just rib cages or just pelvises or just glutes and focus on making the form feel 3D.

[Anonymous No.4430425]

>>4430322
c'mon dude it can't be that bad. pyw and I'll give you my honest opinion of whether or not you're gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.4430433]

>>4430425
its not just about being bad. its also about having no discipline and confidence. until I figure that out i might as well just stop

[Anonymous No.4430434]

>>4430312
>I don't know what the form is.
How are you supposed to know if you don't feel it?

[Anonymous No.4430439]

>>4430434
I think that knowing the form comes before feeling the form. You have to know what the thing looks like and then you can simplify it into boxes and draw your wrapping lines and all that stuff. Pretty sure that's how it works for me.
Anyway I know the answer is I need to just study pelvic anatomy more, was just hoping if anyone had any tips to share though, a way of thinking about or simplifying the forms that worked well for them, etc. I'm especially confused about the abs/area between the rib cage and pelvis and how far down the crotch needs to go. It all feels highly variable from person to person and also between men and women obviously. On some people the stomach area feels very long and substantial and on others it seems to almost disappear.

[Anonymous No.4430447]

starting with drawing is too hard. even tho there is a sticky theres a million different ways that people say is the best and as a beginner you dont know what is at all

[Anonymous No.4430448]

>>4430433
I got my discipline after people started commissioning me, since it's not really your choice after you accept to work. Meanwhile, my last personal work was, well, a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.4430449]

>>4430448
im not good enough at all to be commisioned. Also i dont want to do it for money just to put my ideas on paper.

[Anonymous No.4430450]

>>4430439
For fucks sake. I didn't ask you simplify the fucking form into boxes. I said feel the fucking form. Look at the fucking form and feel it when you draw. Should be feeling the form instead of typing a fucking novel in reply.

[Anonymous No.4430451]

>>4430448
Even if it's only $10 commission, it's still something to make you more responsible and disciplined with art

[Anonymous No.4430479]

lil sketch from imagination to see if I'm improving from the loomis grind

[Anonymous No.4430480]

>>4430450
>look at the fucking form and feel it when you draw
I'm asking for advice on drawing this part of the body from imagination. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[Anonymous No.4430484]

Anyone here use designdoll? How do I import a model and then make it poseable? I import it but cant figure out how to add the things to pose it.

[Anonymous No.4430505]

>>4430484
On their site there is a number for each model. On the app, at the top left (I think it's there, somewhere where you can type and maybe there is "ID" written, dunno) paste than number in there.

[Anonymous No.4430528]

>>4430071
those arms bother me so much

[Anonymous No.4430534]

>>4429996
>>4430077
Okay here's my attempt to make some of these changes. I still hate the lips because I'm dumb and can't into lips. Everything else is just meh to me

[Anonymous No.4430569]

>>4430534
Try adding some hair on the left. She looks like she has none in there

[Anonymous No.4430590]

>>4430534
not >>4429996

I made a few adjustments just to shift some stuff. I noticed that the area around her eyes/top of her face is a more saturated red than the chin/neck, it makes it look like she has stubble. Also the lines around the mouth/nose makes her look more masculine as well.

[Anonymous No.4430608]

>>4430569
Will do, maybe a little just below the cheek so that it doesn't look like it's wrapping around her face?

>>4430590
Thanks for the quick edits! I made the areas adding the center of the face a little more saturated towards red as an attempt to use more subtle contrast as I'm still trying to figure how to execute that well. Perhaps I should incorporate the color under the chin more into the rest of the face so it doesn't look too much like chin hair? I'm eating lunch now so I'll work on it in a bit to see how I can make that work.

[Anonymous No.4430627]

>>4430608
I'm the hair guy
Exactly what I mean. You know what to do anon

[Anonymous No.4430654]

>>4429900
Bottom right looks flat, the construction is ok but the face features are just symbols. work on it, Anon

>>4429972
At first, I rly tried to fix your drawing but you've made a lot of mistakes. You need to work on the overall shapes of the head first, anon. Also, push more your values (shift the image to grayscale to see what I mean)

I meant to post this yesterday, but 4chan died

[Anonymous No.4430669]

>>4430505
No I mean your own custom 3d model not ones they have made. I can import them but cannot figue out how to set it up to pose it.

[Anonymous No.4430672]

looks stupid I don't know why

[Anonymous No.4430683]

>>4430654
Thanks for the blueline anon! From the mistakes I made that jump out to me the first big one is an over-exaggerated jawline and overall wider face/box. The next is being too scared to add volume to the air and a lack of understanding of how hair clumps and forms on the head. Lastly the lips don't curve around the form at all and makes it look more plastered on. If there's anything else I missed feel free to let me know.
I figured I might as well post the underlying sketch.

I can't thank the anons of this thread enough for the feedback

[Anonymous No.4430696]

i still dont know why the far arm feels broken.

[Anonymous No.4430704]

>>4430696
Did you consider to try and twist your arm and bend it how she is?

[Anonymous No.4430708]

>>4430696
put a video camera somewhere and try to take this pose...

and resize your picture please.

[Anonymous No.4430711]

>>4430704
yes but i cant really see behind my back even with a mirror. so i can only guess very roughly

[Anonymous No.4430713]

>>4430711
Well to spell it out for you, the hand should not be facing the viewer. You need to twist it back to face her and it won't look so broken

[Anonymous No.4430718]

>>4430713
will do thank you

[Anonymous No.4430752]

All the changes so far look a lot better, but I'm sure there's still a lot more mistakes to correct.

[Anonymous No.4430805]

>>4429900
Loomis chads rise up

[Anonymous No.4430806]

roomis kun yamate kudasai

[Anonymous No.4430847]

>>4430683
>>4430752
way way better, anon.Face and ear looks better now, also her neck and collar bone. Nose could be a little bigger and chin a little smaller, but that just for stylization purposes. Her left eye still a problem, should be a bit bigger and/or closer to the nose bridge.
On the topic of hair, there's plenty of tutoriales on deviantart and around here so go check them
Keep it up. anon

[Anonymous No.4430852]

>>4430696
I've tried not replying up to this point, but I need to know: what is this character supposed to be doing? Why does she have one arm above her head and folded at an abnormal angle? Why is the other arm just floating in space (aside from not obscuring the giant ass)? Are the hands supposed to clenched into fists?

[Anonymous No.4430859]

>>4430806
Nice loomis head, anon

[Anonymous No.4430883]

>>4429899
hey i made it to the op

[Anonymous No.4430908]

>>4430852
i was gonna make her hold knives.

[Anonymous No.4430928]

[Anonymous No.4430963]

>>4430883
i absolutely love nature drawings and your work is everything is aspire to be

[Anonymous No.4430995]

loose ref
I'll look up coloring lessons later, got too focused on drawing

[Anonymous No.4431008]

Practicing Loomis heads, always feel like trash

[Anonymous No.4431026]

>>4431008
anon, keep on the deliberate practicing and studies :)

[Anonymous No.4431048]

>>4431026
Ty anon, looking back at my old stuff it looks way better. Gotta just keep focused <3

[Anonymous No.4431067]

Some rocks

[Anonymous No.4431074]

>>4431008
Keep practicing

[Anonymous No.4431075]

>>4431008
You put the brows ABOVE the browline rather than on it. Then bring everything else down too and it'll look pretty decent

[Anonymous No.4431081]

should i feel the form for cloth as well? i feel like a smooth brain trying to comprehend

[Anonymous No.4431089]

>>4431081
what's this form feeling bullshit people keep on talking about

[Anonymous No.4431100]

>>4431089
this board is full of monomaniac autist, it's a meme about the importance of understanding the underlaying 3D structure the 2D representation of a volume.

[Anonymous No.4431103]

>>4430696

[Anonymous No.4431104]

>>4431100
so kinda like OPs pic

[Anonymous No.4431106]

Hello anons. I want to draw, but I don't know how. Like what I am supposed to do to get good at drawing? What should I learn? What and how should I practice? Is it better to practice on paper or tablet? I need someone to guide me because I'm completely lost.

[Anonymous No.4431111]

>>4431106
Go read the sticky. Get an iPad and an apple pen, and procreate. Grind loomis till the bones in your hands fall off

[Anonymous No.4431113]

>>4431074
Thank you I will
>>4431075
Thanks for the advice, I'll try that

[Anonymous No.4431115]

>>4429899
i don’t get the organic forms part of dynamic sketching. how do i know if my lines are right?

[Anonymous No.4431117]

Can someone buy me am ipad and apple pencil pls and ty I'm a poor boy that just wants to draw like the old masters

[Anonymous No.4431118]

>>4431106
or just a pencil, no need for an apple, but loomis is pretty cool

you might want to look at Drawabox too, very good stuff

also make sure you register on cgpeers once the window is open

[Anonymous No.4431122]

>>4431106
Get cheap paper and a cheap pencil draw whatever you want post your result. You need to draw things that keep you motivated but you also need to improve and accept critique.

[Anonymous No.4431123]

>>4431117
if kikenstein can draw with a cookie so can you goy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQE6Dho8nZo

[Anonymous No.4431132]

>>4430696

[Anonymous No.4431136]

>>4431117
really? you can't afford an apple ipad pro for only a cheap price of one thousand US dollars (which doesn't include the apple pencil 2, which is more expensive than the apple pencil 1)

[Anonymous No.4431138]

>>4431136
>which doesn't include the apple pencil 2

[Anonymous No.4431141]

>>4431117
if you are a big tiddies non fatty cutie girly and you sucky fucky my lil dick I'll buy you one * blush *

[Anonymous No.4431149]

>>4430908
I think I see what you're going for. Keep going. I want to see how this ends.

[Anonymous No.4431154]

Currently grinding loomis faces

I'm still so shit drawing from memory. Gonna keep on working off example. The way I've been doing it is creating the shapes and set it on the face model; then I borrow eyes & mouth from a reference

[Anonymous No.4431197]

>>4431136
Really. Pls give me the money

[Anonymous No.4431200]

>>4431115
Literally it's just, do they look right to you.
You just have to grind long enough to build the intuition, no way around it.

[Anonymous No.4431203]

>>4431106
Fun with a pencil, drawabox, Keys to drawing are all good resources.
Use paper and pencil.

[Anonymous No.4431211]

new sketch

[Anonymous No.4431217]

>>4431211
Cant put my finger on it but the legs seem wrong

[Anonymous No.4431225]

>>4431217
The knee and shin of her left leg don't line up. All in all though it looks great.

[Anonymous No.4431235]

>>4430447
Just draw what you like, whatever inspires you.

[Anonymous No.4431238]

>>4430447
just pick one guide and stick to it, otherwise you're never going to actually start drawing

[Anonymous No.4431243]

>>4430883
i love your animals

[Anonymous No.4431314]

finished

>>4430178
yeah perspective is my worst point

>>4430198
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4431316]

>>4431314
middle character looks great but the guy on the left is stiff. Could probably benefit from a distinct bend of the spine.

[Anonymous No.4431319]

>>4429899
My first try at drawing (almost) full body from reference. Haven't read loomis or study anatomy at all. This was done in 30 minutes.

[lolivillain No.4431331]

>>4430422
time to use screen tone i guess
but i never practiced value for 4 month
just gonna use basic lightening and screen tone reference i guess

[Anonymous No.4431376]

I drew tifa because I have no creativity

>>4430352
i really like the facial features you express (cheekbones and jawlines especially)
>>4430696
like the other anon said, try recreating the pose and figure out an accurate arm gesture. Other than that, your linework is very clean and the colors used are appealing.
>>4431211
I think the thighs and the head are big compared to the torso. I do like the top-down perspective, though!

[Anonymous No.4431397]

>>4429899

[Anonymous No.4431402]

>>4429972
>>4429996
gave it a try as well

[Anonymous No.4431456]

I still dont know how it will teach me to draw big anime tiddies tho

[Anonymous No.4431466]

art either makes me want to live forever or kill myself. what do?

[Anonymous No.4431475]

I’m having trouble pointing my loomis heads up or down

[Anonymous No.4431480]

>>4431475
Loomis doesn’t really talk about it. Just draw your contour line a little more diagonally instead of straight and it’ll tilt your heads.

[Anonymous No.4431481]

>>4431211

[Anonymous No.4431485]

[Anonymous No.4431496]

[Anonymous No.4431513]

>>4431496
i think im prob retarded but i think something looks wrong with the near eyeball it feels flat i think

[Anonymous No.4431517]

>>4430963
>>4431243
start doing Peter Han Dynamic Sketching then,
https://mega.nz/#F!whAg2QYD!S6X1smoI1lMNulQmvrMRbQ
https://mega.nz/#F!sSYAxKqb!f2gWy-eQZJNvRfiUTu1ASA?8LpwgZRT

then pick some absolutely god tier artists you adore to wake up and go to bed every day wondering when you'll be even a quarter as good as
and you'll probably be at my level or more in a few months of daily practice

[Anonymous No.4431534]

>>4431517
damn, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4431543]

>>4430479
This looks like Jhonny from space Dandy

[Anonymous No.4431556]

>>4430696
Dat ass is caliente

[Anonymous No.4431671]

[Anonymous No.4431672]

>>4430696
Teach me how to draw good ass like you

[Anonymous No.4431681]

>>4431316
Thanks. I'll be more dynamic next time

[Anonymous No.4431694]

Does someone have a link to the cursed gallery that some anon posted where its the same style of portrait but theirs thousands of them and they all have yellow skin and like pink lips and they're all colored pencil. People meme with it to show progression as an artist sometimes... Please this is very important. I need to laugh right now.

[Anonymous No.4431696]

>>4430883
did a lion im unsatisfied with,

hopefully i can get it right with a third iteration tomorrow morning

[Anonymous No.4431706]

>>4431694
I don't think this is the exact artist but its basically an imgur gallery that has tons of portraits that looks like this. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.4431743]

Some anatomy experiments.

[Anonymous No.4431841]

>>4431376
The body looks good for the most part, especially the hands. Add depth(light/shadow). The face is the main thing that needs improvement. The eyes look symbol drawing-y and the overall shape is a little strange. I'd recommend studying facial anatomy a bit more and stylize from ther
>>4431397
Good form, shape, colors are a bit dull imo, but the rendering is great
>>4431402
absolutely based
>>4431496
gmi
>>4431696
not bad overall, just make sure you get the facial proportions right before you render, it saves a fuckton of time
>>4431743
inner elbow looks strange for some reason


I feel like the pose is too bland, and something's off.
>Tips and/or redline plz?

[Anonymous No.4431873]

>>4431485
>>4431103
Hello mr. Amerimutt, I'd like to recommend you to get back to /pol/ corona virus threads and not to spam this thread with your shitty reaction images with no meaning other than discouraging beginner artists.

[Anonymous No.4431879]

This is a series of 30 second gestures that I did yesterday. I drew them a lot bigger and resized them all, then resized the canvas to be 1500x1500 so that they could all fit in this image.
I know that you guys probably get people posting gestures of stick people constantly in these threads, but do you have any advice or general ideas that I should be focusing on to improve these gestures? Am I getting the right idea? How can I transition from these gestures to more complete images?

[Anonymous No.4431882]

>>4431879
Here are also some gestures I did afterwards from my imagination. I don't think I spent more than a minute or two on each of these, but I wasn't keeping track.

[Anonymous No.4431886]

how to draw proper size.size always varies in my drawings

[Anonymous No.4431896]

>>4430995
this is better than all the trash in this thread

[Anonymous No.4431900]

>>4431496
Good shit Asuka Anon!

[Anonymous No.4431913]

Still working on this damn arm.

[Anonymous No.4431923]

>>4431841
>inner elbow looks strange for some reason
Yeah I know it's fucked, I've been trying to fix it.

[Anonymous No.4431929]

Ten minute robot sketch to start the day any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4431934]

While I think I am getting better with my lineart, I am total shit when it comes to give it color (I am talking digital) I have a block, I cannot get past that. A quick advice?

[Anonymous No.4431963]

I think it's getting there. Cleaned up on the right.

[Anonymous No.4431987]

>>4431841
The ear is way too big

[Anonymous No.4431990]

>>4431402
It's very good, the one thing that stands out to me is the forehead is really big. Perhaps because we're looking up at her, it should be foreshortened. It seems both too tall and too far forward. I could be wrong though.

[Anonymous No.4431992]

>>4431934
Pyw. We can't give you general advice.

[Anonymous No.4431998]

Is this good? They're 60 sec gestures.

[Anonymous No.4432034]

>>4431998
that's really good Anon!

[Anonymous No.4432047]

new to digital. whats the best way to do colour for something like this?

[Anonymous No.4432064]

>>4431886
do perspective

[Anonymous No.4432071]

>>4432047
use solid color fill layers with mask

[Anonymous No.4432131]

>>4432034
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.4432214]

>>4430669
>>4430484
anyone?

[Anonymous No.4432233]

[Anonymous No.4432284]

>>4431990
yeah its a little wonky, might try a fix later

[Anonymous No.4432287]

>>4431117
don't fall for the applefag meme, buy pic related instead and plug into pc.

[Anonymous No.4432295]

>call book "fun with a pencil"
>it is not fun

[Anonymous No.4432373]

>>4432295
I know that feel
But hey, it will pay off eventually r-right?

[Anonymous No.4432376]

>>4432295
>he doesn’t think drawing is more fun than work

[Anonymous No.4432447]

>>4432287
Reminder for people with a cheap tablet. You can use a nintendo switch joycon as a drawing remote for shortcut keys. A free alternative if you already have a switch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRwmXopINA

[Anonymous No.4432461]

[Anonymous No.4432471]

Daily loomis head grind cc welcome

[Anonymous No.4432506]

>>4431841
>>4431987
holy shit, I didn't even notice the ear
>>4431963
better
>>4432461
the eyes on the side view look exactly like the front view, work on that. good otherwise
also: check out /alt/

[Anonymous No.4432507]

>>4432471
And another one

[Anonymous No.4432559]

Trying to understand gesture and move into construction then doing dark areas of shadows.
Still many mistakes, but if i keep at it definitely going to improve :)

[Anonymous No.4432576]

>>4432507
I started loomis today and im ashamed. can you post one of your first loomis for reference to see if i need to kill myself.

[Anonymous No.4432605]

>>4431517
>then pick some absolutely god tier artists you adore to wake up and go to bed every day wondering when you'll be even a quarter as good as
This really can't be stressed enough

[Anonymous No.4432615]

Proko shoulders
Biggest issue I have with Proko right now is the lack of any decernable depth or form.

[Anonymous No.4432626]

>>4432615
Proko keeps all the useful shit and understanding of his method under paywall

[Anonymous No.4432630]

>>4432615
Just imagine the muscles over it

[Anonymous No.4432635]

>>4432626
cgpeers has it under Figure Drawing Fundamentals Course
>>4432630
muscles come later, this is the shoulder bones lesson.

[Anonymous No.4432637]

>>4432576
I started getting serious about drawing around april 2018. I drawn for 2 month then took a break I started again around december 2018 then drawn for about 3 month. Then took another break and started again in august 2019 just for 1 month. I started drawing again one month ago so maybe Im going to stop and take a break because I feel discouraged or keep going.
On a 2 year period I’ve been drawing only 7 months, in this period I burned through 3 A4 spiral notebook of 120 sheets each plus a fucking lot of printer paper like 100 or 200 sheets worth of drawing. I got frustrated a lot and gave up a lot.
But I got the best result when I was ending a day frustrated and tried again the next day forcing myself to continue.

Here is an imagination portrait I did in april 2018 (never ever work from imagination if you are starting always copy drawing from accomplished masters and do photo as well).

[Anonymous No.4432639]

>>4432637
Here is one I did recently

[Anonymous No.4432640]

>>4432615
How does one actually apply Proko's teaching in their works?
Do you draw the Prokonstruction on top of the gesture or do you draw the Prokonstruction on top of a simplified version of the forms (like pic related)?

[Anonymous No.4432642]

would darkening the values help or no?

[Anonymous No.4432644]

>>4432640
Follow the process proko goes through.

[Anonymous No.4432646]

>>4432373
why tf do most of em look like el goblinos

[Anonymous No.4432652]

>>4432644
Seems that Proko's method IS actually the marvel shape, but done without any gesture underneath it.

[Anonymous No.4432673]

>>4430805
loomis is big gay

[Anonymous No.4432681]

>>4432373
It will pays off but it takes month do photo study too in between loomis study, focus on simple shape first don’t try to draw all the details.

[Anonymous No.4432692]

Trying to draw irl ppl. Yes, the bottom one is Asian and the top right is white. Idk what happened to the top left.

What should I focus on?

[Anonymous No.4432717]

>>4431402
Thanks for the paintover anon! The planes are very clearly defined here and the brushwork is very good. Anyone have any tips for improving your brushwork?

[Anonymous No.4432742]

Doraemon (manga) on-model attempt without a construction breakdown (constructing it based on what I see in the image)

[Anonymous No.4432743]

>>4432742
Doraemon (manga) attempt with a construction breakdown (break down construction beforehand and then reconstructing both)

[Anonymous No.4432753]

>>4432692
You really shouldn't even be thinking about drawing people at this point. Instead try to focus on doing the basics like familiarizing yourself with the concept of symbol drawing, forms, and beginner perspective. If you haven't, reading the sticky should get you going.

[Anonymous No.4432777]

>>4430752
Keep an eye on the skull shape,hair will follow it
eye angle,they look a bit downy with the outer top edges drooping down so dramatically
and ear placement, it's between the eyebrows and bottom of the nose
the lips looked a bit flat too, I like the hair rendering you do though, I can't render for shit
rounder chins/jaw makes it look more feminine, I added fly away hairs cause I think they look cool but that's just personal preferences, keep up the good work bud, take with a grain of salt I'm beg too

[Anonymous No.4432785]

>>4432777
You made the head more feminine but you also made the construction worse

[Anonymous No.4432796]

>>4432652
Gesture is simple c curves, s curves and straights, ignoring bumps and angulations and focusing on proportion and line of action. That picture shows gesture, shows that he’s simplifying and drawing through much of the information.

[Anonymous No.4432812]

today I'm going to do 1.5 hours of loomis heads and .5 hours of eye and mouth studies

[Anonymous No.4432814]

>>4432717
>brushwork
literally painted that with the default airbrush, g-pen and blend/blur tools in csp.In fact was about to ask you what brush you used
>tips
i guess it all comes down to edges (hard vs soft etc)

[Anonymous No.4432817]

>>4432576
Hey, not the guy you replied to but I just wanted to show you that it's possible to improve from absolute zero. Pic on the left is one of the first things I ever drew, as an adult, not as a toddler. Pic on the right is something I drew today. Still /beg/ tier but there is improvement. So, I'm sure you can improve too.

[Anonymous No.4432826]

when shading do i start with the most darkest areas?

[Anonymous No.4432827]

>>4432576
My art experience has been only doodling anime in high school. After a 10 year hiatus I started 3 days ago. Here are my first loomis heads

[Anonymous No.4432828]

>>4432826
The standard advice is to do the exact opposite.

[Anonymous No.4432847]

>>4432777
Thanks anon, also I'm a sucker for flyaway hair strands, but I also struggle with them, maybe just a small round brush for them (right now I'm using something more like a chalky square brush to help me balance between hard and soft edges). I redid the hair style just because I felt like it. I also tried to soften to collarbone. I didn't raise the ear much because the head is tilted upward, but I did bring it out more and finished it up a bit. Made the bottom lip more full and softened the jaw and carved/rounded the chin a bit to remove chin and raised the eyes a bit like you mentioned. I also moved the left eye in a bit like what >>4430847 said.

[Anonymous No.4432848]

>been drawing on and off for about 2-3 years
>every 2 weeks of doodling i decide to get serious this time
>try to do something more
>fail and lose all motivation and love for drawing until the next time
anyone got similar experience?
any tips how to break this cycle ?
sometimes i just wish i never started doodling

[Anonymous No.4432854]

>>4432848
grab a doodle and do your best with it. or try the last artist standing /draw daily discord group

[Anonymous No.4432859]

>>4432814
Oh I painted this in Corel Painter. It's called the Concept Art Jitter Smooth in the pastels section. I tried out CSP a bit and I didn't find anything I liked.

[Anonymous No.4432861]

Is there any glaring issues in this? I’m trying to get more into NSFW art and drawing people. The worst things I can see in it is the nose and chin/jaw. The nose is only like that because I was hasty and put darker ink in while it was still wet. I’m really satisfied with how I did the hands and boobs though. Redlining and opinions would be greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4432865]

>>4432848
> try the last artist standing
you mean the book ?
>draw daily discord group
>got any links for that ?

[Anonymous No.4432866]

>>4432865
meant for>>4432854

[Anonymous No.4432892]

Some eye study. I tried to apply it on a female head. Going to grind loomis heads now

[Anonymous No.4432905]

>>4432847
It looks amazing, good work
I just use my mouse and the lasso tool for fly aways, make a line and try to trace it back, my shaky mouse movements give it an organic feel imo, then you can lock opacity and paint over it
do you have a twitter or somewhere I can follow your work?

[Anonymous No.4432928]

>>4432905
Thanks anon, I only have a Tumblr for now for, but should I make a Twitter? I'll try what you said for stray hairs, but I'm left handed so I might use my pen instead. The past few weeks posting in /beg/ and everyone's feedback has helped me so much more then when I've been doing stuff myself.

[Anonymous No.4432955]

A few more heads and then tomorrow I’ll start a mouth study

[Anonymous No.4432988]

>>4432928
Having both couldn't hurt, reach a wider audience, I think the twitter art scene is bigger too

[Anonymous No.4433004]

Henlo

[Anonymous No.4433016]

>>4433004
I like the middle one a lot

[Anonymous No.4433033]

>>4433004
shit when thats beg what am I then

[Anonymous No.4433052]

>>4433033
You can make perfect photocopies of references all day long, doesn't mean you're not /beg/. Drawing from reference just takes practice and patience, but not knowledge.
I'm assuming those drawings are from reference. Not to diminish the fine work that went into them.

[Anonymous No.4433061]

>>4433052
>>4433004
The first two artworks are from references. The last one (on far right) is a live portrait

[Anonymous No.4433063]

>>4433016
>>4433033
>>4433052
Also thank you!

[Anonymous No.4433077]

>>4431456
Gets your lines sharp and confident so your anime tiddy looks attractive and not sketchy

[https://twitter.com/richardthe(...) No.4433090]

>>4432988
My Twitter is https://twitter.com/richardthesenp1
and my Tumblr is https://richard-the-senpai.tumblr.com/
Right now I've got more of my sketches on Tumblr, but I'll be adding more of that to my Twitter overtime.

[Anonymous No.4433096]

>>4432461

>>4432506
Yeah, front views are very much my comfort zone '~'

[Anonymous No.4433130]

Trying no reference forms. This construction thing is really cool, it make me Feel like an architect or surgeon.

[Anonymous No.4433155]

>>4432373
>it will pay off eventually r-right?
haha s-sure haha

[Anonymous No.4433167]

>>4433130
if you only knew anatomy

[Anonymous No.4433168]

>>4433167
One thing at a time bro

[Anonymous No.4433170]

>>4431397
Top tier taste in cars anon, looks really good except the rear window looks like it's flat (or maybe you extended the rear seat too high) If that is supposed to be the 2+2 model the gas cap is behind the rear tire.

Keep up the great work anon

[Anonymous No.4433172]

>>4433130
>>4433167
And gesture.

[Anonymous No.4433242]

>>4429899
How shit is this yukkuri? I have little idea how to depict form.
At lest I have fun makeing it. . .

[Anonymous No.4433246]

>>4433242
fug
i 4get teh meme

[Anonymous No.4433253]

>>4431402
>>4432717
fixed, plus shes a little younger now

[Anonymous No.4433259]

>>4433253
wrong quote >>4431990

[Anonymous No.4433273]

High.

[Anonymous No.4433278]

I despise this one. This is what happens when you don't draw for a week.

[Anonymous No.4433311]

why does the hair look god awful

[Anonymous No.4433314]

>>4433278
Stop posting your shitty comic here

[Anonymous No.4433333]

been some good shit in here recently, lotta people working hard and showing potential. usually these threads are a nightmare but this one's alright. gives me hope. keep up the good work, kings

[Anonymous No.4433393]

>>4433333
Based and also checked

[Anonymous No.4433396]

>>4433311
They flow weird.

[OP No.4433414]

>>4429994
Nice. The (two?) brown trees on the left look awkward up against each other. And the top right corner looks unfinished. Overall, though, solid.

[Anonymous No.4433423]

>>4433311
beg redline for a beg thread.

The hair lacks definite shapes and structure, looking like a mop instead. Try to break it down into shapes instead of leaving it an amorphous blob.

Your hair should also have a defined gesture. In yours you have limp braids that tell the viewer nothing about the direction of energy.

Also learn how to draw hands, unlike me. I changed the arm positions to look more deliberate and to improve the silhouette. Keep it up, touhouchad.

[Anonymous No.4433428]

[Anonymous No.4433439]

Hi. I do an anime-style webcomic. Honestly it was intended to be more like Avatar-style but I failed at that.

I'm open to critique on my latest pages. I have certainly improved but I still don't feel "there" at all.

[Anonymous No.4433442]

>>4433439
and this one two pages ago maybe. This one I like so criticism is welcome too.

[Anonymous No.4433449]

>>4433428
really nice composition. her hands and face are also good. her arms and collarbones are where im seeing the most issues. study how the arms connect to the breast and where the collarbone sits.

[Anonymous No.4433451]

>>4433442
I just noticed both pages are too similar so here is one more dynamic to avoid that criticism. I think its more dynamic.

Hope its not too spammy, im out.

[Anonymous No.4433455]

>>4433428
This ain't my girl Cerebella

[Anonymous No.4433459]

>>4433449
thx for redline.

>>4433455
i showed you mine show me yours.

[Anonymous No.4433460]

>>4433459
Mine is a lot thicker

[Anonymous No.4433467]

So I noticed there's basically no way to do some poses with just lines because the perspective is so fucked. You have to use atmospheric perspective / shading to show what's in front and what's behind.

[Anonymous No.4433473]

>>4433467
I mean this is pure bullshit. Her left leg is forward then behind then forward again it goes from a gesture problem to a rendering issue. I don't know how to capture that in 1 or 2 minutes. It took me like 5 minutes just to work out wtf is going on with the pose.

[Anonymous No.4433481]

I've been struggling to figure out how to do lineart for this sketch, it keeps coming out as too sterile-looking. But I don't want to just leave it as a sketch, that feels lazy too. Any suggestions?hg

[Anonymous No.4433493]

>>4431696

[Anonymous No.4433569]

My anatomy sucks. I want to improve it. What should I read?

[Anonymous No.4433605]

Can i get better at drawing by drawing gondolas every day

[Anonymous No.4433608]

>>4433467
>>4433473
Watch Vilppu. You can use cross contours to indicate the direction of a form in space.

[Anonymous No.4433612]

>>4433608
What’s a cross contour?

[Anonymous No.4433623]

>>4433608
That's what I do, but it's not enough here because the body is almost straight on. Vilppu adds some hatching as well he calls it "pushing".

[Anonymous No.4433625]

>>4433612
When contour lines... cross.

[Anonymous No.4433626]

>>4433605
Yes.

[Anonymous No.4433627]

>>4433569
You need to feel the touch of a woman. Feel the form.

[Anonymous No.4433629]

>>4433627
nigga

[Anonymous No.4433644]

>>4433253
infinitely better

[Anonymous No.4433645]

[Anonymous No.4433646]

>>4433645
i only have pencil and paper with me i still cant afford to buy pc and tablet rn and im getting fucking bored lime im losing my spark idk what to doooo

[Anonymous No.4433658]

>>4432642

[Anonymous No.4433728]

I want to get better at drawing.
I have never showed my sketches to anyone and I feel very insecure about them.
I think this will be an experience I will learn from.
Hit me with every critique anon.

[Anonymous No.4433750]

[Anonymous No.4433751]

>>4433253
The softer approach looks so much better. Thanks again for the paint over

[Anonymous No.4433781]

Tumbling duckweed.

[Anonymous No.4433783]

>>4433658
not them but this is super helpful, thanks

[Anonymous No.4433806]

[Anonymous No.4433814]

>>4433170
Thanks mate. It's supposed to be flat. That's an after market option.

[Anonymous No.4433834]

learn everyday

[Anonymous No.4433842]

>>4429899
how this look fellas?

[Anonymous No.4433872]

I'm new to this board, why does everyone seem to just draw porn

[Anonymous No.4433878]

>>4433834
sauce on that mango?

[Anonymous No.4433893]

what's the best place to share your art when youre still beg?

[Anonymous No.4433896]

>>4433872
4chan

[Anonymous No.4433961]

>>4433750
Toes too small

[Anonymous No.4433966]

>>4433893
If you draw dragon ball, ponies, or furries, deviant art, otherwise Twitter or ig but you will get almost no followers because you're a beg. Art Station if you make it. Behance is like... Professional portfolio.

[Anonymous No.4433970]

never forget

[Anonymous No.4433982]

>>4433646
>losing my spark
Stick a fork in a power socket.

[Anonymous No.4433985]

>>4433982
>inb4 anon gets electricity-based drawing superpowers

[Anonymous No.4434019]

>>4433970

[Anonymous No.4434041]

I've done like 2 hours of gesture today and I'm ready to chuck my wacom at the wall.

[Anonymous No.4434048]

>>4434041

[Anonymous No.4434083]

in modified contour drawing exercise (from drawing on the right side of the brain book): do you have to follow your eyes' movement with you pencil simultaneously or is looking at an edge, trying to draw the edge without looking at paper, then looking at the paper for a moment to see where you ended up at is fine?

[Anonymous No.4434103]

>>4429899
i have ADHD bad. I need just one thing to focus on. What is the best book for a complete beginner?

[Anonymous No.4434117]

>>4430696
Arms only bend 155 degrees from neutral

[Anonymous No.4434143]

AAAH FUCK

[Anonymous No.4434144]

>>4434048
>>4434041
when gesture drawing how do you decide what you want to detail? like should I just be doing head, ribs, hips and joints?

[Anonymous No.4434146]

How do these fucking brushes even work

[Anonymous No.4434163]

Gestures with some construction.
I think i have improved quite a lot since last time, should i aim for 1:1 from reference? I want to be a comic artist and not like proko or a copy machine.

[Anonymous No.4434174]

[Anonymous No.4434179]

>>4434174
those are some pointy hips chief

[Anonymous No.4434199]

Daily loomis head I think I’m learning less and less and going autopilot everytime.

[Anonymous No.4434255]

can I just die of the plague quickly and mercifully

[Anonymous No.4434318]

>>4434199
How much reference do you use for these?
I think these all look pretty good, which means they're probably not helping you learn much. You should switch to a daily exercise that gets you more out of your comfort zone.

[Anonymous No.4434342]

>>4434318
it's copy from loomis plates i'm doing the full book more or less just to grind. I try to understand every of his pencil stroke while doing so.
sometime I do a photo reference and sometime some imagination sketch to see if I actually remember what I grinded and it's nice to see that what you grind stay in your muscle memory and come out when you want it. But when I'm drawing and I can let my mind wander I start to ask myself if I'm really learning something.

I think I'm gonna take a break from loomis grind and do something else I don't really know just yet.

[Anonymous No.4434376]

>>4434255
my next head was less horrific luckily

[Anonymous No.4434380]

>>4431496
I tried to change the face what do you think asuka kun ?

[Anonymous No.4434397]

What are some recommenced books on drawing shoes?

[Anonymous No.4434489]

>>4433605
>get better at drawing by drawing
Yes :DDDD

[Anonymous No.4434517]

>>4434397
If you don't mind breaking down the shapes yourself, you can go to stock photo sites(shutterstock, gettyimages) and search for isolated shoes, white background
There's a lot of different shoe types

[Anonymous No.4434566]

anyone ever try this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRNj1h5tVG4
I can't imagine doing this without burning myself out

[Anonymous No.4434596]

>>4434342
>>4434318
>>4434199
Where can I learn loomis without a fucking book i'm not reading a novel to learn this shit

[Anonymous No.4434599]

holy fuck why is the rendering so fucking horrible

[Anonymous No.4434636]

>>4434596
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4434649]

>>4434596
listen to the audiobook

[Anonymous No.4434672]

>>4434596
The truth is you can understand what loomis put in his drawing just by reproducing plate of loomis you find on google image.

Pic related is a guy that learned by copying random loomis plate without actually reading the books as he didn’t totally understand english at the time.
He told me he progressed by drawing loomis for a full year if I remember correctly then he did an awful lot of sketch and drawing from photo or life. And he understood concept that loomis explain in english just by looking at the drawing and analyzing them.

But he put really a lot of hours if you want to speed up the process you will go faster by reading what loomis has to say.

[Anonymous No.4434676]

suck at anatomy but i want to improve
could someone give me some pointers?

[Anonymous No.4434756]

>>4434599
the light on the butt is too harsh. That sun you drew is not the primary source of light by the way you rendered that butt. If it was, the skirt would cast a shadow over the top hemisphere of the butt. The hair likewise is not rendered accurately.

[Anonymous No.4434817]

WHEN YOU DRAW A FACE DO YOU DO THE HEAD FIRST OR THE HAIR.

[Anonymous No.4434845]

should i use auto-level to make photos easier to see?

[Anonymous No.4434849]

[Anonymous No.4434855]

>>4434845
work on your lines, those fingers look broken

[Anonymous No.4434856]

[Anonymous No.4434861]

this one photo i only adjusted brightness and contrast to make it less dark

>>4434855
>work on your lines
do you mean like drawabox practice?

[Anonymous No.4434862]

[Anonymous No.4434866]

this photo is unaltered. (no auto-level or brightness and contrast adjustments)

[Anonymous No.4434877]

[Anonymous No.4434910]

corona chan

[Anonymous No.4435045]

i’m only /beg/ and know this is terrible. am i right in thinking drawabox isn’t worth it beyond lesson 1?

[Anonymous No.4435109]

>>4434599
Adding to what >>4434756 has said, the folds and creases in the clothing have no shadows. The hair casts no shadow on the face. The skin of the face and hand shouldn't behave differently under light from the skin on the ass.

[Anonymous No.4435154]

>>4435045
if you want to quit because your work isn't pretty, then you might be missing the point of drawabox.

as a fellow /begshit/ working through it, though, im curious. what about lesson two makes you think that it might not be worth it?

[Anonymous No.4435228]

>>4435154
that pic is taken from the website. this post is my own work and more correct on how contour lines are supposed to be done - rounded forms in 3d. what i posted above is flat shit with even spaced and overdone lines.

[Anonymous No.4435274]

>>4435228
my bad, i'm a retard.

so you think that uncomfortable is a hack that lacks skill in the techniques that he's trying to teach?

are you just basing this on little demonstration doodles like the one you posted? have you noticed him slipping up anywhere else

[Anonymous No.4435288]

I hope loomis rises from the dead so that he may kill me for my shitty studies.

[Anonymous No.4435304]

>>4435274
not so much a hack as there are just better teachers. main thing drawabox has going for it is it’s free. i will say again that i thought lesson 1 was good, though.

[Anonymous No.4435332]

>>4435304
>not so much a hack as there are just better teachers

any recommendations, then? what better ways are there to learn whatever drawabox tries to teach?

and if you got the gist of this exercise, why does it matter that the demonstration looked sort of shitty? seems like it got the job done.

[Anonymous No.4435354]

>>4435332
its called dynamic sketching, its literally what drawabox was literally based on, and its available right now in the video courses thread

>>4425269

besides that you can always just read robertson or any other perspective course and start applying it, DS is literally just about learning to draw through objects and feel form by drawing tons of things from life

[Anonymous No.4435377]

>>4435354
aight hans's course is a fine alternative, thanks for suggesting it. didn't mean to get salty at you.

is that really why you're fizzling out of drawabox? you just know the content from other sources already? if it seems like im overly invested in it, it's cuz i'm an absolute newbie and drawabox is literally the first extensive are program i've put effort in.

[Anonymous No.4435790]

>>4435377
i'm not that anon. im
>>4430883
>>4431696

if you're an absolute newbie the only thing that its absolutely important you do is draw tons, preferably from life/photos, until you're confident in your linework and know how to observe things correctly (and hopefully how to self-critique)