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Disney btfo

>> No.4375468

>>4375463
Why are these dumb youtube videos so popular now
Yes I wouldn't ever quit such a nice job, but youtubers be youtubers

>> No.4375471

Don't these jobs have a high turnover of employees anyway?

>> No.4375474

another stellar thread on /ic/

>> No.4375477

Why this shit doesn't get banned?

>> No.4375484

my brashhhes got in the way of animating.
dishhhney can go fuck themshhhelves.

>> No.4375566

>>4375463
Ngmis use these vids to cope
>nyeeeh Disney is shit anyways

>> No.4375582

>>4375463
>I quit my job at X doing Y
>I now make digital snake oil in the form of daily 10 minute videos on Youtube and call it "entrepreneurship"

This shits all over /g/ too. It drives me mad.

>> No.4375640

Bro why this chinky look like she drew her eyebrows on. She looks like Ellen Pao. Gayest san francisco art student voice I've ever heard too.

>> No.4375667
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Based Ethan

>> No.4375732
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but let's be real here, what is the actual problem that is happening in the art industry, if specifically the animation and comic industry (or any industry that has to do with making story) right now? Aside from her personal complain.

>> No.4375741

>>4375463
oh no what will disney do without sakimichan they are done for

>> No.4375892

>>4375732
Western industry doesn't want to take risks compared to there eastern counterpart and rather stick to the same formula thats been working since the 1930s.
Another problem is, the woke/sjw mentality/gating puts restriction to creative freedom for artists/studios in the west.

>> No.4375909

>>4375463

She cute. Who is she? Links?

>> No.4375912

>>4375471
yes but attention whores can now monetize their faggotry

>> No.4375925

>>4375732
>>4375892
Plus creating stories based on marketing research and design by committee.

>> No.4375928

This girl's never getting a job again. Feels bad.

>> No.4375951

>>4375912
>talks about how it's dumb everything is about money
>talks about how she left that to make her own business so she can now make her own money
???
What does this bitch even mean? There's no way she'll make as much as she did previously.

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4375953

>>4375463

i highly doubt she quit

>> No.4375959

>>4375953
very catty, I don't agree with everything she says in the video but not everyone enjoys corporate work anon

>> No.4376020
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This woman is very, very ugly. I feel bad looking at this picture.

>> No.4376024

>>4376020
You should be fucking glad. I watched the whole god damn video and it was cringe right from the beginning. I would take it all back to just be able to only know the image.

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>>4375741
Don't insult Sakimichan like that please. Sakimi is an S-tier art waifu, this other one is trash.

>> No.4376048

>>4375667
Dare I say... /ourguy/

>> No.4376049

>>4376025

looks like an average korean guy

>> No.4376054

>>4375471
yes but they do treat their employees like shit
you're nothing more than a resource to HR and accounting and they don't give a single shit if you burn out
that said, people who make youtube videos like this aren't helping

>> No.4376088

>>4375463
She brings up valid points but is so clumsy in presenting her argument that seething incels who hate everything with a vagina and crazy woke corporate asskissers tear her apart.
The overreliance on suits micromanaging creatives is a problem and highschool politics in the office is a problem (and in my experience it's mostly women being toxic to other women).
But she's very heavy handed in how she presents herself so it gives turbo corporate shills like that "I'm toxic ironically" dickwad that likes to post his own videos on /ic/ an opening to tear into her because "she's rich" and even if she is a spoiled little princess the core of her problems is still valid and affects people from all backgrounds in the creative industry

>> No.4376094

>>4375667
Wow much based corporate asskissing and mansplaining from some 30 year old boomer telling her and everyone else to suck it up and give the boss a nice big smile while he shits down your throat.

>> No.4376125

>>4375667
Based and truthpilled Ethan

>> No.4376139

>I thought animation would be different from a 9 to 5 job

God shes fucking retarded, talks retarded. I'm just gonna close this video

>> No.4376142

>>4376139
No, stop, you have to watch the entire thing. It gets much worse.

>> No.4376146

I came to this board b/c of ethan. is his advice actually worth taking?

>> No.4376147

>>4375463
All she is ranting about is the same shit John K used to rant about on his blog.

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>>4375667
>consoomer boot licks shitty hypocritcal industry
not shocked really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lcB9u-9mVE

the only way to stop these shit practices is to stop participating the broken game or do some labor union

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>>4376146
got fired because he literally couldn't draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEvMHRgPdyk&t=4m25s

he's mediocre and uses clickbait and zoomer maymays to compensate for his lack of skill. also draws delicious chocolate very poorly to the point where it looks like /d/

>> No.4376193

>>4376139
>>I thought animation would be different from a 9 to 5 job
Wouldn't animation be much more intensive than that?

>> No.4376227

>>4376088
This
I can tell you work in the industry, not just an /ic/ larp

>> No.4376239
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>>4375732
The industry is pure Hawaiian shirt nepotism and I've watched producers manipulate artists in the most pathetic ways, promote friends who do not know what they are doing, and smear people who challenge them.

Many studios want young animators because they are easier to manipulate. Exchange students, LGBTQ, HF autists, meek females, beta males, all easy for producers to manipulate.

It's the only way they have authority, hiring kids, and keeping a few friends/lap dogs around.

This why so many people leave the industry in their 30's and 40's. When you are 20 you are naive and starving to prove yourself and get some accolades...

Never work unpaid overtime! It's a production managers job to prevent this, but most cant animate or design themselves... so how the fuck can they manage it?

>>>If 100 artists work only 1 hour of unpaid overtime a day, the studio will save more than half a million dollars in labour over a year... only 1 hour a day!!!

If a studio pays overtime, this is the only exception to what I'm talking about. (((Most wont))).

If a studio depends on hiring fresh artists every 6 or 12 months they are exploiting youth... period.

>> No.4376241

>>4376163
pyw

>> No.4376255

>>4376239
Is that why it's full of Asian girls who go marry white guys who keep their job

>> No.4376262

>>4376255
Studios hire women because they are more submissive and still equally skilled. The industry will eventually be all estrogen and the stories will reflect this.

>> No.4376264

Was it really Disney or more her department?

Companies are just people that work there.
It's up to the leaders to set the standard.

>> No.4376304

>>4376239
>Many studios want young animators because they are easier to manipulate. Exchange students, LGBTQ, HF autists, meek females, beta males, all easy for producers to manipulate.
This is true.
Corporations don't give a shit about who you fuck, but they make sure you self stigmatize and victimize to a degree where you lose trust in your family/community and instead start to think the corporation is your friend by putting up a rainbow flag in the office.
The more alienated a person is the easier they are to control and exploit.

>> No.4376305

>>4376264
This is a industry wide problem. The suits that try to meddle with projects and completely fuck them up and gossip girls. In the games industry it's just as bad. Animation has it a bit worse because that shit has to be carried by art direction and writing alone and can't be saved by decent gameplay.

>> No.4376347

>>4376160
I would say Telstra is fucking based for that statement, but they also banned 4Chan in Australia so fuck em.

>> No.4376363

>>4375463
Jesus she's an insufferable.

>> No.4376609

>>4375468
I know people who worked at Disney, they all say 'Don't do it". It's not a nice job, at all. Imagineering is even worse, I know two people who worked there who considered it their ultimate dream job, and wanted to firebomb the place within 6 months. Disney has a bad rep across the board, people work there for their resume and reel, and get the fuck out asap - like getting into Pixar. They know that there's thousands of people who will replace anyone in the company at a moment's notice.

>> No.4376622

>>4376239
Very few of the positions in studios like Disney are hourly. You're salary, so if you need to pull 18 hour days to hit a deadline, you do it. From what I've been told, the only hourly creatives at Disney are contractors.

>> No.4376652

>>4375732
Answer is simple.
East rewards artistic excellence
West doesn't

>> No.4376692

>>4376139
>>4376193
She's not even a real animator. She's a storyboard artist.

She basically makes clip notes all day shoot the shit with her coworkers.
Cushy af job.

>> No.4376711

>>4376692
This. 99% of these fags that call themselves animators are just storyboarders and writers. This especially true if they work with 2D animation. They likely haven't drawn a single animation frame since graduating school.

>> No.4376713

>>4376652
Is this true? Moving to Japan then. But how to get in?

>> No.4376719

>>4376692
So she's just like Vilppu?

>> No.4376760

>>4376713
Japanese animators have it rough.

>> No.4376826

>>4375959
What fucking video?
Are we supposed to know who this bitch is?
Link?

>> No.4376828
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>>4375732
Comics are fine if you don’t try to join the big 2 (Marvel and DC). The writer and artist get to express themselves with the editor coming in only to tell them storytelling plot holes and nothing else. Unlike the big 2 where you have to play roulette if you wanna stay on the book, like which character are you gonna kill, what new character are you gonna pull in, and what big controversial twist will bring in new angry readers. pic related is a non big 2 comic that is rumored to getting a live action adaptation

>> No.4376963

>>4376054
>you're nothing more than a resource to HR
>department is literally named Human Resources
retard

> they don't give a single shit if you burn out
Yeah when you're being paid to consistently provide work they need burning out isn't a concern. Burning out just means you can't do your job and if you can't push through it you need to find something else.

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>>4376024
No, I shouldn't be fucking glad, I wouldn't have to even KNOW this human Noh Mask existed if not for /ic/ niggers making threads about it.

Holy shit, you gossipers should be put in a cage.

>> No.4376991

>>4376094
Okay zommer kiddo

>> No.4376993

haha cool fuck Disney

>> No.4377010

>>4376963
Jr HR spotted

>> No.4377019

>>4375892
>stick to the same formula
Speaking of formula, I've lost count of the number of times I've seen this retarded face >>4375953. No idea what's with the obsession with it in the West

>> No.4377030

>>4375892
Doesn't most anime do the same thing to a lesser extent? It's one of the main reason I'm so picky with modern anime lately.

And the sad thing is weebs would unironically defend all these copy and paste Moe waifu isekai shit. God I hate the anime fanbase, it's absolute cancer.

>> No.4377061

>>4376828
It works wonder in europoor imo, if you're an off brand comic artist who doesnt do capeshits in the US then tough luck to you, you're in charge self promotion at full front.

>> No.4377066

>>4377030
Anime makes plenty of risk every season anon, the moe and sol stuffs are a stable, but rewarding risk and flop shows exist every season. What have you been watching anon?
Their manga industry is healthy like europe on the other hand.

>> No.4377067

>>4375667
>Are you going to quit and boohoo or are you going to suck it up and yeehaw?
Imagine being so brainwashed that you think wasting your life wage slaving away for a company that wouldn't care if you died, is better than becoming self employed.

>> No.4377068

>>4377067
Yes, it is

>> No.4377078

>>4377068
That's the most unamerican thing I've read.

>> No.4377084
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>>4376622
There is SO MUCH MONEY in exploiting artists. Just make them try to prove themselves. It's like 'game strategy' sleezy PUA use, but they use it on gullible artists. And if you refuse or criticize they replace you and threaten ((blacklisting)) you.

Someone tell me why the Nobel animation industry worth billions needs to threaten blacklisting its staff ? It's just entertainment. It's because the powers at be know what they do is corrupt, and this is the "culture" that keeps it so profitable. It's so fucking pathetic.

What's great about ops video is its exposing this bullshit. (And shes not the first!) If it was only this girls experience, it would be shared and liked as much as it is. Read the comments on the video. And of course there will be token lap dogs who smear her and people like her... but these people like show business not animation or art.

The jig is up, more conversations will follow.

>> No.4377115

>>4377084
Agree.
Especially this guy is mega sleazy about it
>>4375667
>ha let me guess guyse SHE'S A RICH SPOILED BRAT!!!! SHES RICH EVERYONE THAT INVALIDATES HER POINTS
>us working class minorities LIKE TO BE FUCKED IN THE ASS BY THE MAN AMIRITE FELLOW WORKING CLASS MINORITIES?
What a worthless bootlicker. Disgusting.

>> No.4377119

>>4377084
>The jig is up, more conversations will follow.
The American people are easily distracted.

>> No.4377120

>>4376147
John K is based

>> No.4377126

>>4377115
>>4377119
Both of these are true. As long as everyone's distracted and corporate CEOs keep.importing cheap labor to drive down wages, there will be no meaningful change.