/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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Anonymous Tue Feb 4 07:06:17 2020 No.4347586 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4342534

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 07:36:20 2020 No.4347625 there is only pros on /ic/ today?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 07:43:32 2020 No.4347631 What is the difference between shapes and forms?

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 07:54:16 2020 No.4347644
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The fact that a finished painting I'll spend hours on would most likely turn out terrible scares me. I keep feeling that the time spent on that drawing would be a waste cause it looks bad. This results in a bunch of sketches like this one and barely anything complete.
How to fix this mindset?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 07:55:55 2020 No.4347650 >>4347631 2d and 3d

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:02:37 2020 No.4347661 >>4347650 Art displayed on a flat surface is always 2d.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:03:49 2020 No.4347663 File: 1.14 MB, 1429x845, Gator.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is kind of where I am right now after month of not doing studying art. I really want to get back into it, where should I take my study from here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:10:30 2020 No.4347681 >>4347663 Digital painting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:12:35 2020 No.4347685 >>4347661 Hmmhmm grayons

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:14:03 2020 No.4347691 File: 94 KB, 720x736, 1519198348408.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4347685

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:16:21 2020 No.4347697 >>4347496 gesture is interchangeable with figure drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:16:59 2020 No.4347700 is it ok to study multiple fundamentals at the same time?

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:17:11 2020 No.4347701

>>4347644
Same dude. I have an idea for a big finished piece, I’ll start drawing the sketch, do the lineart and find I posed the character poorly and it looks way too stiff and I end up going back to study unsure of when I’ll ever finish something big. Right now I want to draw something for a friend, and I want to put my all into it, but my all isn’t good enough yet. Sorry, no advice, but I can relate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:17:15 2020 No.4347703 >>4347697 I never really thought of it that way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:18:18 2020 No.4347706 >>4347700 I usually practice one fundamental till I get a bit bored of it and then practice a different fundamental. If you force yourself to practice a specific thing you'll burn yourself out and end up disliking drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:30:00 2020 No.4347728 >>4347706 thats what i thought too, i guess 2-3 fundamentals plus drawing what you like is doable

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:40:38 2020 No.4347743 >>4347728 Just apply what you learn all the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:43:06 2020 No.4347749 File: 72 KB, 480x633, newdraw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i have autism and i dont know how to keep drawing every day

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:43:47 2020 No.4347750 >>4347663 Cute!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:44:49 2020 No.4347751 >>4347749 I thought autists loved regular unchanging schedules.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:46:24 2020 No.4347753 >>4347749 You're confusing autism with retardation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 08:55:18 2020 No.4347765 >>4347749 I'd buy that shirt

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 09:02:22 2020 No.4347772 File: 113 KB, 1288x856, work.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] awful

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 09:14:02 2020 No.4347783 >>4347772 Showing major improvement. Your drawings have structure now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 09:18:45 2020 No.4347785 File: 128 KB, 1131x867, fagfagfaga.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] morning doodles

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 09:18:55 2020 No.4347786 >>4347783 i lost something along the way to structure

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 09:38:18 2020 No.4347814 File: 129 KB, 360x360, 1560835721950.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4347751 >>4347753 is /ic/ really this unhelpful?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 09:38:55 2020 No.4347817 Is there a gesture model tool that doesnt give you a bunch of boring examples ? Like more than half of the examples in quickposes are standing straight up with their arms in a fucking T pose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 09:53:42 2020 No.4347827 >>4347814 not all the time depends on how unhelpful you are!

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 10:17:17 2020 No.4347847 >>4347843 cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 10:18:20 2020 No.4347849 Is there any way to make gesture drawing more interesting ? It feels like the most boring thing I have ever had to practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 10:21:58 2020 No.4347854 File: 129 KB, 738x1312, DSC_0002_copy_738x1312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 10:22:49 2020 No.4347855 >>4347854 If you have low standards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 10:24:22 2020 No.4347860 File: 2.03 MB, 3008x4016, IMG_20200204_145729.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Didn't finish cause it already looked retarded. I just picked up keys to drawing and i'm reading ir. Where can i improve, based on this drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 10:24:53 2020 No.4347862 >>4347849 Post work.

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 10:48:17 2020 No.4347885

>>4347860
Don't just copy it, just copying is never good and won't get you as far as real studies and real referencing does. The proportions are fucked. If you just want to do anime that's fine, see the basic shapes Anime faces consist of and practice anatomy.

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 11:05:27 2020 No.4347906
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>>4347862
just one of the examples that I tried to make gestures from. It might just be because its the first time I've done gestures so I cant feel the use of it as quickly as practicing basic shapes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 11:07:36 2020 No.4347911 >>4347906 Have you done any figure drawing yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 11:09:05 2020 No.4347913 >>4347911 Nothing like that as of yet. This is the first time I've done gesture which I assumed should be done before doing a full figure drawing. The only practice I've done so far is getting used to the tablet and basic shapes like ovals and cubes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 11:26:31 2020 No.4347928 >>4347785 omg guys he’s not drawing asuka

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 12:40:03 2020 No.4348049 >>4347786 It will come back once get comfortable with the technique.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 12:42:06 2020 No.4348056 File: 145 KB, 960x1280, foottos 024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can i improve on my own?

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 12:45:30 2020 No.4348062

>Only ever drawn with max density pen brushes
>want to grow out of cell shading
>every attempt at soft-shading ends up looking like shit
>Start a piece with heavy focus on the background to try and learn all different brush settings
>feel like crying after an hour over my sea that looks nothing like a sea
Where the fuck do people learn all this shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 12:56:21 2020 No.4348085 >>4348056 Don't draw every strand of hair and the eyes are too far apart. Hair is more like clumps and at that angle the right eye is slightly hidden by the nose and the left eye is too far from the center of the face

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 12:57:36 2020 No.4348090 >>4348062 >waahhh I tried something new for like an hour and I wasnt good at it!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 13:04:47 2020 No.4348111 >>4347860 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 13:42:57 2020 No.4348226 >>4348056 Read a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 13:49:42 2020 No.4348236 File: 36 KB, 159x192, Loomis Pretty Girl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If Im too retarded o get to even this after a few days should I give up. I feel like itll take me forever if I cant even do a ball right.

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 13:53:53 2020 No.4348245

>>4348236
Practice, practice, practice. Mastery as a goal right now is useless and will only frustrate and disappoint you.
It's okay. It's not good, but it's okay. Go practice some fundamentals like drawing posture and simple shapes for 15 minutes, draw for fun for another 15 minutes, then try again. Do the same thing tomorrow, or better yet, move on to a different lesson.
Mastery is not your goal.
Mastery is not your goal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 13:55:46 2020 No.4348250 Whats the name of the hogarth book?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 13:59:27 2020 No.4348261 >>4347661 Yes. But you have to understand the form of something to get the shape of it that appears on the final product.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:00:36 2020 No.4348264 >>4348250 Which one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:03:06 2020 No.4348271 >>4348226 Name of a good book, pls?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:03:48 2020 No.4348272 >>4348264 The one on bodies

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:04:00 2020 No.4348273 Are there any good ETHNIC alternatives to Loomis. Sorry, but as a queer POC I don’t want to be told how to draw by an old white guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:06:40 2020 No.4348279 >>4348273 Roomis

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:08:35 2020 No.4348283 >>4348273 No Better quit drawing since its owned by white people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:10:16 2020 No.4348285 >>4348273 Time to reinvent art thought a queer poc lens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:11:19 2020 No.4348286 >>4348236 Looks fine. Now do the rest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:12:21 2020 No.4348288 >>4348272 Dynamic anatomy - Revised and Expanded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:15:39 2020 No.4348298 >>4348271 What interests you?

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:32:09 2020 No.4348322

>Question about colouring
I was colouring a yellow flower in the shade and I had no idea what colouring pencils to use.
I once heard that for colouring something in a dark area, just add some blue to it.
Obviously doesn't work on pencils. Any help?
>tl;dr how to colour something in a shady area using pencils

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:32:26 2020 No.4348324 >>4347814 you literally told us nothing but 'waah i want to draw more' go read a fucking book on motivation and habits or something, jfc

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:35:20 2020 No.4348326

What are the most conflicting pieces of advice that you hear when people talk about art improvement? To me it's always references and tracing. Some artists tell you not to trace and others say it helps you learn. Some artists say to never draw from reference others say it helps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:44:04 2020 No.4348345 File: 8 KB, 225x224, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4348326 do you take everything at face value

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:48:06 2020 No.4348359 >>4348345 another empty post as an excuse to roleplay as a cartoon girl, autism

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:51:39 2020 No.4348371 File: 82 KB, 1015x1015, C6l0I2aWgAAY-SX.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4348359 >a fucking chinese cartoon makes him seethe

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:52:51 2020 No.4348373 >>4348326 literally what the fuck does /ic/ say that doesnt conflict with itself

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 14:54:39 2020 No.4348381 >>4348373 this is true

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:03:53 2020 No.4348399 >>4348371 autism

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:11:42 2020 No.4348413 File: 26 KB, 300x100, 1550936750961.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4348326 >never draw from reference Who would even say such a thing? Jesus fuck /ic/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:13:55 2020 No.4348420 I wasted so much time by not going straight to Loomis. What the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:15:50 2020 No.4348422 >>4348420 What have you been doing instead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:17:24 2020 No.4348428 >>4348422 Learning from Youtube tutorials.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:19:47 2020 No.4348434 >>4348420 How did you get used to Loomis ? Every time I tried his books I felt frustrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:24:20 2020 No.4348441 >>4348434 Low reading comprehension?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:25:23 2020 No.4348444 >>4348441 It just didnt feel comfortable when doing it from a book I suppose. When I could see an example done in like a video I dont really have an issue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:29:35 2020 No.4348458 >>4348434 I think it's just fun. Maybe youtube tutorials gave me the basics to enjoy the books. Not basics as in drawing basics, but mindset wise. It felt refreshing to read something a level deeper than youtube tutorials, as good as some of them are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:30:44 2020 No.4348463 >>4348458 This is a good mindset.

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:31:10 2020 No.4348466

>>4348458
>I think it's just fun. Maybe youtube tutorials gave me the basics to enjoy the books. Not basics as in drawing basics, but mindset wise. It felt refreshing to read something a level deeper than youtube tutorials, as good as some of them are.
That might be the case, I've only been drawing for about a month now and I started Loomis fun with a pencil from day one and got frustrated with the practice that I did.
I'll try it again when I get some more hours done and get more into the groove of drawing without stressing too much about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:35:28 2020 No.4348486 >>4348434 Loomis is overrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:36:32 2020 No.4348488 >>4348271 2001 fiction, and nonfiction Man And His Symbols

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:37:01 2020 No.4348490 >>4348285 So Tumblr?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:37:08 2020 No.4348492 >>4348466 Instead of treating it as a step by step guide, skip trying to follow along drawing, and just read the book, focus on understanding what he's trying to teach you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:53:30 2020 No.4348536 File: 61 KB, 407x865, pani stojąca.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] help

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 15:55:36 2020 No.4348542 >>4348536 >pani stojąca fucking Polish is hilarious lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 16:01:53 2020 No.4348554 >>4348536 The shoulders plus arms bug me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 16:36:12 2020 No.4348626 >>4348492 I could do that this whole time? I skipped fun with a pencil because I didn’t drawing the blooks. Is it really ok just to read it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 16:36:56 2020 No.4348628 >>4348245 I think you've helped me realize what kind of mindset I should get for now. Thanks for that, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 16:38:12 2020 No.4348631 File: 670 KB, 954x794, Orc-Girl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4347843 A little more work thrown in to add more contrast and putting a little work into the clothes. If anyone sees anything weird that jumps out at them let me know

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 16:38:59 2020 No.4348635 >>4348536 Hips and ass look like they're missing bones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 16:42:38 2020 No.4348645 >>4348626 Who'd have thought.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 17:05:57 2020 No.4348694 >>4348536 The shapes you choose are very inconsistent, and the way you bend joints makes the figure look unbalanced. Think of joints as hard angles, just like how you mix soft and hard edges with tone you mix curves and hard angles in construction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 17:17:05 2020 No.4348710 >>4347663 Grow more confidence in your colours, you’ve obviously got an eye but you seem timid to actually block colour out. Try and look at colour theory and shading

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 17:18:47 2020 No.4348713 >>4348536 Legs are cursed

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:02:09 2020 No.4348793 File: 69 KB, 349x885, fsafsafafasfsaf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this better

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:07:34 2020 No.4348797 >>4347644 yeah same. finishing a "whole piece" is something I've been meaning to try for a while but every time I start changing a sketch after I initially draw it or mess with linework it starts looking like shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:07:42 2020 No.4348799 >>4348793 What happened to the neck?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:10:33 2020 No.4348806 >>4348793 a little bit but her right leg look like it's been detached from her hip

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:11:31 2020 No.4348808 >>4347644 I think we just need to lower our expectations, suck it up, and just finish something for once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:12:51 2020 No.4348811 >>4348808 Or at least push it beyond where we'd normally let go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:44:35 2020 No.4348872 >>4348631 this >>4347843 is better. the curly strand are just annoying to look at and with the head shape like that when you close up it looks pinched. it's like you made a mistake when resizing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 18:50:17 2020 No.4348879 >>4348872 >it's like you made a mistake when resizing. Yeah I resized in MS Paint when I probably shouldn't have. Overall massive OOF but will work on it some more tomorrow

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Anonymous Tue Feb 4 19:20:04 2020 No.4348922

>>4348111

>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah

hmmm...

so, i opened it in google docs and I see these gray watermark? kinda thing. it says

>SoulsCore Art - Henri Cadet

did a search and found this

>https://twitter.com/SoulsCoreArt

WHAT THE FUCK!? is this the guy who wrote that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 19:23:44 2020 No.4348927 >>4348049 what should i study to get better at buildings / landscapes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 19:41:01 2020 No.4348963 >>4347586 What is the best program to use for beginners just starting out on digital drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 19:43:23 2020 No.4348970 >>4348963 photoshop or clip paint studio

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:12:09 2020 No.4349004 so what is the best way to practice your pencil accuracy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:13:50 2020 No.4349007 File: 402 KB, 1635x1667, 8EE4E5E8-186E-4A3D-95E5-05C194945ECC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here’s the last thing I did that I can say I’m proud of. Advice? I don’t really know what to ask for. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:22:08 2020 No.4349021 >>4349004 peter han shit, mark's drawing tutorial exercises, fucking around with ghosting a lot, and unironically tracing

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:25:02 2020 No.4349028
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>>4347586
>Feel free to pose even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you are literally never going to make it
dammit you made me feel bad here it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:39:38 2020 No.4349048 File: 126 KB, 1632x1224, liluzivert1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Started Vilppu. Made a worthy successor to Proko's kangaroo fetus

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:43:18 2020 No.4349053 >>4349028 Why did you need to label those areas lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:45:12 2020 No.4349055 File: 77 KB, 1632x1224, liluzivert2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349048 another

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:46:45 2020 No.4349057 >>4349028 i like it. need more hair volume. try drawing her in 3d

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:48:56 2020 No.4349060 Bros how the FUCK do I Hogarth???

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:58:20 2020 No.4349074
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>>4349053
Because those areas are IMPORTANT!
lol the frame I was using as a reference had a window in the background so I was using that to make sure proportions were right as I drew it

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 20:59:34 2020 No.4349076 >>4349057 Thank you I will attempt that

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 21:09:25 2020 No.4349090 >>4349057 >3d >draws animu

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 21:14:12 2020 No.4349097 >>4348906 can you put more effort into it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 21:32:06 2020 No.4349111 File: 1.65 MB, 942x1332, 1AC585C9-F0F7-4E0F-AC5A-635FB0974141.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4347586 Any tips? Feel like I’m moving really slow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 21:32:50 2020 No.4349112 File: 1.65 MB, 974x1266, ADEB96B8-807C-4823-9BC9-D147AD7D3D94.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349111 Here is the sketch too

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 21:33:56 2020 No.4349114 File: 1.49 MB, 1056x1369, random1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] half way through this i just went to fap then the quality went even lower must remember to draw first, fap later

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 21:54:31 2020 No.4349146 File: 864 KB, 750x1000, Webp.net-resizeimage (18).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could anyone help me with the foreshortening of the leg? I like the rest but I can't draw a convincing bent knee. Please I request thy help

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 22:00:32 2020 No.4349153 File: 96 KB, 1000x989, 1580865771443.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349146 all is fucked

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 22:02:04 2020 No.4349157 File: 242 KB, 925x1000, marshall.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why yes, I do listen to the Draftsmen, how could you tell?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 22:22:00 2020 No.4349195 >>4349097 i honestly cant

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 22:25:44 2020 No.4349206 >>4349153 Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 22:55:23 2020 No.4349251 File: 300 KB, 890x891, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been studying some similar pieces but I wanna know from others point of view, what am I doing wrong? Why doesn't it looks like the reference?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 23:11:48 2020 No.4349278 >>4349146 Try using a cylinder in perspective for the leg and a sphere for the knee!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 23:12:43 2020 No.4349283 File: 466 KB, 2778x1800, 20200204_2301051.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What could I have done to fix the arm on this clownpiece that looks like duke nukem

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 23:25:16 2020 No.4349310 >>4349278 Anon, I... That's what you're already seeing there

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Anonymous Tue Feb 4 23:29:35 2020 No.4349322
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Worried I'm turning into a study autist. Obsessing too often that the content I'm studying isn't going to help me enough or that I'm focusing on too much Loomis and not enough Proko or vice versa. Have a retarded amount of tabs open and a Fort Knox worth of YouTube playlists and PDFs to grab from (most of which I will never use). Any advice on how to focus on the content I really need and seep through the bullshit?

Additionally, will working too much on the really proper shit lead to burnout/disinterest?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 4 23:32:57 2020 No.4349329 >>4348793 you should be proud anon, keep going

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 23:43:30 2020 No.4349350

>>4349322
just enjoy drawing and the shit that you fuck up on is the shit you need to study, study isn't a prerequisite to drawing it's what you do between drawings. you'll burn out if making proper shit is too hard, takes too long and doesnt make you feel good when you finish it, but then if you study something to improve and then try again you'll see improvement and the experience will be less painful and you'll be encouraged

ideally anyway

Anonymous Tue Feb 4 23:58:37 2020 No.4349380

>>4349314
You have some decent pencil skills, good connected shadow on the lips. However, your a atom is weak, that neck is too long and the nose appears too long tho depends on face. No understanding of the torso under the shirt. Go and study skulls and skeletons as well as neck and shoulder musculature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 00:01:15 2020 No.4349390 >>4349380 Anatomy * is weak. I need to proofread

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 00:09:01 2020 No.4349407 Do I need real life refernces or does pictures from online work just as well. I completely half-assed Key To Drawing since I didnt have real people to draw. I want to start over beginning with this book

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 01:04:23 2020 No.4349491 File: 452 KB, 1160x833, lm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349454 Try to match the values, you can see that face is bright, some hair area/ eyes very dark etc. Use bold bencils. >>4349251 sauce? How's my loomis head?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 01:24:09 2020 No.4349507 File: 158 KB, 1632x1224, Haruhi_posed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349028 >>4349057 Here is a sketch before I go to bed, will try to finish up tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 01:28:17 2020 No.4349515 >>4349507 Nice tits.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 02:16:27 2020 No.4349604 File: 418 KB, 1279x1017, breakindarules.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349581 are you this person?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 02:20:11 2020 No.4349608 >>4349604 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 02:28:02 2020 No.4349617 File: 1.52 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 02:28:48 2020 No.4349620 File: 405 KB, 841x1643, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tourist

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 02:29:40 2020 No.4349622 File: 979 KB, 2230x1351, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 03:36:52 2020 No.4349699 File: 1.41 MB, 1219x900, womand-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] help

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 03:47:48 2020 No.4349712 File: 1.11 MB, 1000x752, 38CA982D-3F7F-46F1-9CB7-FD9B8B54FD04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] send help. thinking about cutting the top off and finishing it from there. no refs used

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 05:04:48 2020 No.4349804

>>4349251
Head at a different angle. Eyes, mouth and hairline are all higher, though you didin't change the jawline. Move the whole face down a bit, and the nose to the right, and try flipping the mouth horizontally - the curve is wrong, but it looks a bit like you might just have had the reference the wrong way around when you drew it. Oh, and the left ear should poke out less.
Your neck is a bit thinner in proportion to the rest, and I think it might be slightly off-centre. It could just be that the left shoulder is slightly pointier, changing the silhouette of the shoulders.
Your eyes are also a bit less round, and the eyelashes shorter. Oh, and the forearms are at a different angle, and thinner. Those things don't matter as much, though.
Overall, I'd say it does look like the reference, in most important ways.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 05:29:49 2020 No.4349831 File: 1.87 MB, 1652x2048, Screenshot_20200205-102721.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349380 pretty bingo on that one

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 05:31:22 2020 No.4349834 >>4348492 I honestly never thought of it this way. I always thought of learning drawing from a book had to be done step by step.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 05:31:52 2020 No.4349836 does anyone know how to apply your current drawing brush onto the outline of the shape-tool ellipse photoshop 2019

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 05:37:30 2020 No.4349841 >>4347663 using duckduckgo with chrome logged in

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 06:10:13 2020 No.4349869 File: 388 KB, 1219x900, womand-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349699 in only b&w values

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 06:17:32 2020 No.4349877 >>4347772 what tool was used here?

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 07:34:23 2020 No.4349933

I'm new to digital art and the multiply layer thing confuses me. Some famous artist uploaded a lineart drawing with the layer set on multiply and when I colour over on a lower layer, the lines go darker. However when I draw my own lineart while setting the layer to multiply and colouring the layer under it, it doesn't make a difference if its set to normal or multiply.

Why does this happen?

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 08:11:57 2020 No.4349975
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I haven't posted here in a couple of months.

I am trying to draw two characters I like kissing each other, so I drew a couple of pages of heads and various heads kissing each other. Do you guys have any advice or critique on if I am doing this right? I was also practicing the anime "shark nose" thing but I don't feel like I could ever get it right.

I know "don't draw anime" but the two characters I want to kiss are anime characters, so, while I typically hate anime/imitating anime, it's going to be required for the image.

Would love to hear what you guys think and I'll respond later, it's 7am and I gotta go to bed.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 09:17:58 2020 No.4350047
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pokemon is cinderace. this is supposed to be a colored sketch and hes supposed to be laying down

how do i make my lines look more appealing? i feel like the lines around the left arm and cock & balls look nice but everything else is shitty, especially the tail and the shoulder spikes, the look tacked-on/flat. i also have no idea how to color. overall it looks stiff and unfocused

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 09:21:06 2020 No.4350050 File: 117 KB, 899x1124, IMG_20200205_151548_680.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] le miku

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 09:24:27 2020 No.4350060 >>4350047 Why has he got that thing in his ass?

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 09:29:55 2020 No.4350067
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>>4349975
>I know "don't draw anime" but the two characters I want to kiss are anime characters, so, while I typically hate anime/imitating anime, it's going to be required for the image.
Boichi, the Dr. Stone mangaka released a drawing book for beginners, there are a few pages about how to draw a kissing couple.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 09:32:52 2020 No.4350072 File: 85 KB, 459x610, 1466007422283.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4350050 >le neck yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 09:33:54 2020 No.4350075 >>4349804 Thank you so very much for your response! I'll take those things in consideration when using a reference next time. I forgot It's all about observation! >>4349491 there u go https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78040464

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 09:49:38 2020 No.4350105
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>>4348872
Did what you said and removed both curly strands and properly scaled it. Not sure how/if I should tackle the background, but in the meantime I'll just make something else

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 10:30:07 2020 No.4350155 >>4347785 i love you

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 10:31:23 2020 No.4350158 File: 1.34 MB, 4032x3024, 657478E7-DEC4-4EFE-8452-D543525D29A6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bored as fuck in my chem class just tell me what to add and I’ll do it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 10:35:14 2020 No.4350162 I haven't drawn in 4 days because of the most intense back pain i've ever felt and now I'm scared of picking up the pencil please send help

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:11:00 2020 No.4350216 >>4348793 Starting to look pretty good anon, are you going to be the next Incase ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:14:50 2020 No.4350224 >>4350162 If you have too much pain when moving your arm around you might just need to rest, maybe read or watch some videos to help with theory stuff in the meanwhile and get back into drawing when your back is better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:17:25 2020 No.4350230 >>4350060 does it make your penis hard seeing it in there?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:22:15 2020 No.4350241 What are the best books on shading?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:25:42 2020 No.4350246 >>4350230 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:31:19 2020 No.4350261 >>4349877 mspaint :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:36:41 2020 No.4350276 File: 890 KB, 850x850, female.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying out painting digitally, so far it's not too too bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:38:20 2020 No.4350285 File: 921 KB, 850x850, oldman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4350276

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:38:57 2020 No.4350286 Speaking of shading, is it normal for some parts to end up darker than others unintentionally? Because while shading i ends up further darkening a portion i already shaded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:47:09 2020 No.4350304 >>4350286 post

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:53:14 2020 No.4350314 File: 2.35 MB, 4032x3024, C811496D-B792-41EA-B340-0B967DEFCD3F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4350304 Here’s an example from a practice exercise i found on google.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:55:25 2020 No.4350316 >>4350285 I like the this one more than >>4350276 I think it's just the color and lighting choice though or maybe because the oldman has a more expressive look

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 11:55:52 2020 No.4350318
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>>4347644
Just.
Fucking.
Do it.
Your paintings are gonna look like shit, your first hundred, hell, thousand will look like shit. No ammount of tutorials or guides will ever change that. The sooner you accept your art looks awful, the sooner you will improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:00:02 2020 No.4350325 >>4350316 I feel the same way (I made them), and I think it's cause oldman just has better flow too, better shapes

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:03:20 2020 No.4350330

>>4350314
some bits are darker because you went over them twice, the amount of graphite loaded onto the page additional to the density of marks (i.e. hatches that are close or far apart) contribute to the value/darkness.

basically just dont go over your shading when you're happy with the value, or if one bit is too dark you can erase and retry or make everything else darker (though the latter could accumulate and just lead to very dark drawings)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:05:37 2020 No.4350335 >>4350330 Any shading techniques you recommend?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:09:39 2020 No.4350344 >>4350335 Not that anon, but I was taught that you should use controlled strokes (hatching or cross hatching) instead of filling like that to have an easier time controlling your values.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:10:49 2020 No.4350346 File: 831 KB, 850x850, selbst.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] last one for today, a hideous self portrait

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:10:54 2020 No.4350347
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>>4350335
i recommend studying, like look at the marks on this drawing and you'll figure out their technique; hatching is by far the cleanest and easiest though as you can just layer lots of light parallel lines on top of each other until you get the value just right

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:21:08 2020 No.4350365 >>4350230 yes because I wanna fuck it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:22:24 2020 No.4350367 What is /ic/'s stance on drawing anime? I'm newfag to this board and was curious since this is a general advice thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:27:14 2020 No.4350369 >>4350367 Start drawing anime after 6 months of Loomis and Vilppu. Even fucking Proko is fine, just DO NOT start with anime, it's a mistake.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:32:28 2020 No.4350376
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How'd I go lads?
I feel like I should've spent more time in the oven with it, rendered it more. I didn't define a light source at the start of the image, got caught up in the pose reference and chasing the cool ideas.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:32:37 2020 No.4350377
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Guys' can you give me your honest opinion on this piece? I've spent almost 4 years of my life on fixing and polishing it and I still don't know how to make it look appealing.

Don't tell me about the fucked up anatomy, just tell me what should I do to make it looks nice and comfy, like those hard rock covers from 70-s.

Btw, I'm using Sai2.

p.s: anon, that suggested me to use chromatic abberation, I beg for you to appear also.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:33:44 2020 No.4350381 >>4350377 Why have you spent 4 years on this piece lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:40:43 2020 No.4350394 >>4350377 are you fucking serious

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:42:00 2020 No.4350398 >>4350381 It was my first try into digital, when I didn't know much about layers and stuff, so I had to remake it again and again. Then I was just fixing it, then neglecting it for months, drawing something else, then returning again, and so on...

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 12:50:45 2020 No.4350417 File: 2.97 MB, 720x404, 1580853157516.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4350377

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 13:11:17 2020 No.4350462

>>4350377
I'm /beg/ tier too, but judging from the thumbnail the moon isn't bright enough; when you do night/low light photography bright things will be over exposed while things in shadow will be more visible. I'd also suggest making the moon just a bit smaller, make the waves a bit brighter, then move and enlarge your figure so that it contrasts better with the background. I'd also make the figure just slightly brighter. If you have to use a multiply or overlay layer so that it's easier. That's all I got off the top of my head.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 13:40:13 2020 No.4350517

>>4347586
>want to start drawing
>i guess ill draw a face
>i guess ill draw a face
>i guess ill draw a face
>2 years of faces later
>can darw great portraits
>absolutely hate drawing portraits
>can draw decent backgrounds too i guess
>hate drawing backgrounds aswell
>started learning how to paint in watercolors which i also hate but im getting the hand on
all i wanted was to draw cute comics and do some character design
cant draw from imagination or construct for shit
how the fuck did i do this to myself? i want to stop, how do i stop?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:30:47 2020 No.4350614 >>4349278 Knees don't resemble spheres at all

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:32:19 2020 No.4350617 File: 589 KB, 2894x4093, gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how are these gestures

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:36:56 2020 No.4350627 >>4350617 Are you trolling

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:40:22 2020 No.4350633 >>4350627 i am most certainly not

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:49:35 2020 No.4350645 >>4350617 Download Vilppu Drawing Manual and read the first pages. I guarantee that in 15 minutes you'll be doing better gestures than this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:52:27 2020 No.4350651 >>4350633 Draw a lot bigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:52:46 2020 No.4350654 is drawing rooms a good way to practice perspective? also >>4347772 how do you draw like this? it looks really cool

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:53:09 2020 No.4350655 File: 2.06 MB, 1836x3264, 20200205_204213_Richtone(HDR)-01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man thinking on a chair

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 14:57:47 2020 No.4350660
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Anon here that has only been drawing daily for a month.
I've been trying gesture drawings since yesterday but I feel like I'm doing something very wrong (at least it feels wrong) and I'm not seeing it for some reason.
The image posted was a man with crossed legs on the floor holding a stick between his fingers.
I try to complete the gestures in 30 second if possible (I have the timer on 1 minute just so I have time to switch laters to have a clean canvas).

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:11:19 2020 No.4350678 >>4350660 look at this then look were those limbs bend

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:11:52 2020 No.4350679 File: 22 KB, 350x440, xfigure-drawing-proportions.jpg.pagespeed.ic.KhhOnY2S8Q.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4350678 im retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:18:29 2020 No.4350691 >>4350679 Is it really just a matter of the length of the limbs that makes it feel wrong ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:23:48 2020 No.4350701 File: 253 KB, 750x925, PBF252-Carolyn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is some progress you are proud of anons ? What major jump did you make that made you feel like the time you've invested was worth it.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:26:56 2020 No.4350708

>>4350691
its not just the lenght of the limbs, the knees are suppossed to divide the leg in half, your knees are at 1/3 of the leg, same with your arms
use your thumb to measure each part of the legs and the arms and look at where the limbs bend in your drawing
do the arms and the legs bend in the middle?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:28:24 2020 No.4350711 >>4350708 Shit now that you mention it I can finally see whats wrong. I'm probably just tired because my brain was telling me something was off but wouldnt tell me what it was.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:33:20 2020 No.4350719

>>4350711
there is no point in overdoing it at the start, nor in trying different things
i think the best way to start is drawing a face using reference, its not creative at all but it can give you some solid ground
try to meassure where the eyebrows, nose, mouth and chin belong in a face, then the distance between the eyes, then the relation between the eyes and the mouth, the eyes and the ears and the mouth abd the jaw, even try to understand how the hairline works
all of this can teach you how to not fuck up proportion and when i sat place i mean place, not draw. You place them first, then you figure out the size each part is suppossed to be, you are going to fuck up the eyes a lot, there is no shame in that, just look at the japanese

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:40:51 2020 No.4350730
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>>4350719
Yeah I'm just trying to get a feel for it for now, I'm doing better than I was the previous month, that was essentially just a stick figure made with blocks.
I might be overworking myself at the moment but I need to put in a lot of time before I start to see any improvement at all, the last thing I want is to spend 10 years before I can make something that looks even remotely presentable because I only spent 1 hour a week on drawing.
Current goal is to put 164 minutes in per day to get to 1000 hours by the end of the year.
I'm splitting this up into reading theory and actual drawing practice, so I can use both my hands and my brain to their full use in the time I have available.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:43:05 2020 No.4350731 >>4350730 you can improve way faster if you forget about trying to be creeative for now also this goes without saying but dont use cartoons as reference, that comes way later

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:50:40 2020 No.4350743

>>4350731
I'm not trying to be creative in any real way at the moment, just trying to draw a gesture from an image on sketchdaily (has way more dynamic figures on it).
I havent drawn a cartoon yet, that isnt until I can at the very least draw a human looking figure that isnt complete dogshit.
I dont really care about making "art" in any real way like most people on /ic/, I just want to be able to draw characters at some point, but I know I need to keep it slow and grind away till I build up the theory and muscle memory for it.
I still have 330 days remaining in 2020 so there's still some time for improvement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:54:57 2020 No.4350750 >>4350654 mspaint + replicate dithering patterns, blocking out the colors using transparent select

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 15:59:03 2020 No.4350760

>>4350743
well go ahead, do waterever the fuck you want, waste a 1000 hours not making any progress because you know better, its not like everyone says exactly the same to beginners, im sure learning how to draw a fucking face, which you can accomplish in a fucking month by the way, is all about art and not just the fastes way a fucking retard can learn the basics of drawing. but what do i know? im just some fucker who can tell were the middle of a fucking line is supposed to be

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 16:08:07 2020 No.4350771 File: 79 KB, 500x489, pitou-with-kite-head.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how many years of daily grind to reach Togashi's level? >inb4 bad art hurr durr

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 16:12:35 2020 No.4350781

>>4350377
Am also /beg/ but to me it doesn't have any true dark values, and the lighting is pretty wrong. The way the shadows are drawn it's almost like there's just ambient lights coming from every which way instead of lights from the big planet in the background. In reality if you had this kind of perspective the girl/squid thing would basically just be a shadow, which I understand is probably not so appealing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 16:12:40 2020 No.4350782 >>4350771 Well Togashi started drawing when he was a small child, so better start grinding now

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 16:28:10 2020 No.4350802

>>4350679
This makes no sense, what is he supposed to get from that? It's a stiff figure showing prorportions only in those twoviews and poses. >>4350691
Look at your reference image closely, figure out where all the limbs and immovable masses (ribcage and pelvis) are located and how they make the pose look the way it does. Use a lot more straight lines also.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 16:44:56 2020 No.4350826 File: 84 KB, 789x723, bridgm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I bought Bridgman's complete guide to drawing. How am I supposed to study it? Copy the drawings chapter by chapter or read all chapters then start copying heads?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 18:21:08 2020 No.4350961 What meme course/book will help me with forms in perspective

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 18:47:40 2020 No.4351002 File: 103 KB, 583x895, fsafsafafsafa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 18:50:07 2020 No.4351007 >>4351002 Clean your shit up before doing that hatching. It's gross.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:03:42 2020 No.4351024 >>4351002 fix your proportion and draw cuter face. unless you're into midget then that face fits perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:04:49 2020 No.4351026 >>4350826 google "how to study bridgman"

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:05:31 2020 No.4351029 File: 422 KB, 1143x1500, random4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:07:07 2020 No.4351033 >>4351002 That cheek is beyond puffy and into the swollen territory. also define the pervis, the leg doesn't just stick out of the lower abdomen. otherwise it's cool.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:07:43 2020 No.4351035 >>4351002 Ummmm That isn't Asuka....

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:35:04 2020 No.4351080

>>4351002
Her right leg looks very uncomfortable, and her left arm is completely fucked. The way it's attached to the shoulder, the way it's bent, the bicep shouldn't have a 2nd elbow in it. Her right hand looks weird unless you intended it to look like a zombie hand with 1 skeleton finger.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:46:37 2020 No.4351095
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Are there any exercises or anything that help with getting used to a drawing tablet? Ive had one for years but every time I use it I just feel frustrated because it feels so wonky compared to pencil on paper. Is one with a screen that you draw on directly inherently better for overcoming this? Am I just a faggot? Help me understand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:51:59 2020 No.4351105 File: 33 KB, 420x443, 1580939228955.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4351095 what tablet

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 19:57:42 2020 No.4351118 File: 1.01 MB, 1786x1652, Illustration9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:05:41 2020 No.4351138 >>4351105 It's been so long but i'm pretty sure it's an Intuos 4.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:24:07 2020 No.4351166 >>4351095 No idea, I got one four years ago, dropped the cord in a bucket of water. It started going crazy so I unplugged not and never touched it again Fuck that thing

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:34:51 2020 No.4351178 File: 259 KB, 947x1000, Experiment020520.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When do you accept that you're simply NGMI?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:35:44 2020 No.4351180 File: 617 KB, 1400x700, yeet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A friend told me to try to copy some b&w portraits to start understanding values. In all honesty I don't know if I'm learning something from this or if I'm even doing it right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:37:28 2020 No.4351184 File: 313 KB, 859x1500, random2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:39:02 2020 No.4351186 >>4351184 Ah, the classic "I'm afraid of real criticism so I turn every honest effort into a wacky meme drawing"

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:40:18 2020 No.4351190

>>4351178
Depends on what 'making it' means to you. For me, I just want to draw decently enough that I can make smut and force fetish weirdos to fork over money for commissions. If you're after something greater, then it's very possible you will never 'make it'.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:42:29 2020 No.4351193
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>>4350377
Tomorrow, start over and draw the same image again from scratch. Do not directly reference the original.
The day after tomorrow, draw it from scratch again.
Do this every day, for the next four years of your life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:43:05 2020 No.4351195 File: 79 KB, 566x800, no ref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:47:05 2020 No.4351200 File: 65 KB, 1197x645, mama mia.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4351186

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:47:51 2020 No.4351202 >>4351195 Promising, but work on your proportions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:49:24 2020 No.4351204 File: 52 KB, 667x500, gesture7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried doing some gestures. when figures are just facing the camera or theres very little twisting or turning im struggling.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:53:08 2020 No.4351206

>>4351195
I really like the head in general, good job. The ass is very weirdly small and flat, however, and the arm closer to our view is too short. In fact, it looks like you started from the top, then gradually tapered the size down as you got further down towards the legs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 20:59:25 2020 No.4351211 >>4351200 I don't know who had the sickest burn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 21:28:51 2020 No.4351242 File: 46 KB, 1079x1350, IMG_20200205_211951_574.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4347586 How can I fix this pose? I couldn't find a ref in the pose and angle I wanted. Also why does he look kinda like a chick?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 21:36:57 2020 No.4351259 >>4351202 >>4351206 thanks senpaitachi, I see it now. Will absolutely fix it in the morning

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 21:39:30 2020 No.4351264 >>4351259 >senpaitachi NGMI

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 22:33:54 2020 No.4351312

I just got my first pad after using pen/pencils and paper and boy is it weird. I feel like I completely have to relearn what the fuck I'm doing because of how hard it is for my brain to look at the screen and see the cursor move. It doesn't help that it's just a microsecond behind and that the dpi of the pen is not what I would naturally expect. As a result my lines are slanted, my ellipses rarely close, and just generally things are off.
Is this normal? Is there a resource where I can learn how to set this thing up or adjust to it? Would normally say fuck it and return it but I kinda need to eventually move on to digital work so here I am.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 22:58:55 2020 No.4351350
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It's taken literal years, but the penny's finally dropped and I can draw circles that look about right for the reference image.
By my estimates I'll get the lines on it correct by 2022, and facial features just in time for the next decade.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:01:38 2020 No.4351352

>>4351242
The spine is stright up/down instead of curved, the arms and legs need to be redrawn with the proper foreshortening, and the left leg...well it's kind of like a giant noodle at the moment instead of having any weight or connection to the pelvis.
Tbh I'd start over, but you can keep the head and torso

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:04:09 2020 No.4351355
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>>4351312
You can't be worse with it than me, but if you are then god help your soul. I've had this thing for like 5 years and I'm still too afraid to use it because it feels so fucking off compared to just using paper.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:11:19 2020 No.4351369 >>4351355 >kill all the jews Based

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:17:08 2020 No.4351379 File: 168 KB, 905x673, stuffff.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just some quick stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:22:09 2020 No.4351391 File: 171 KB, 496x533, apl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first try to use colors for a change

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:25:54 2020 No.4351400 File: 63 KB, 407x865, 1580849610094.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4348536 The legs look kinda wonky, so I drew them some bones to support them

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:28:01 2020 No.4351405 File: 362 KB, 801x804, 2020-02-05 23_23_08-CLIP STUDIO PAINT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] back anatomy is a pain.

Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:47:26 2020 No.4351426
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I've been frustrated with this shit my whole life.

FUCKING HUMANS and ANIMALS.

I can draw environments and robots and other miscellaneous shit just fine without a reference.

But when it comes to drawing figures from imagination, just no.

Human bodies and animal muscles vary so much. Some are more muscular, some or more fat.

I just wish there were a program with an insane amount of 3d models to work off of because without a good reference it's damn near impossible for me figure out proportions, especially when angles are involved.

I am truly amazed at how some people draw human figures without any reference and it looks great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 5 23:53:43 2020 No.4351434 >>4351405 This is what I mean. Muscles twist and turn and change with different angles. It just kills me. And then you'll have different fat variances. Does anyone know of any good software where you can just rotate a 3d model?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 02:13:53 2020 No.4351533 File: 1.82 MB, 1080x2220, Haruhi_clean.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4349507 I copied it to work on the pose and proportions a bit, I feel like something is still off with the hips or something though

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 02:16:53 2020 No.4351535 File: 238 KB, 564x768, fflaws.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] im starting with this, can you see any fatal flaw to correct early?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 03:11:47 2020 No.4351581 File: 364 KB, 1422x962, 4chanpose.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Figure stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 03:24:32 2020 No.4351591 >>4351535 you've never seen breasts in real life

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 03:37:44 2020 No.4351606

whenever I'm done with a drawing I feel quite happy, but when I look at it again after a few hours all I can see are flaws I initially didn't notice, which makes we wan't to go back and edit it, say I'm unhappy with a cheek, after I fix it I must also edit the hair surrounding it, the skin etc. and it feels this process just puts me at risk of ruining even more of the image.
Is this normal? Will I eventually stop feeling like this in time?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 03:55:14 2020 No.4351623 >>4351606 Make it a habit to flip your canvas horizontally every 30 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 04:02:17 2020 No.4351629 >>4351591 I have seen them when I was banging your mom last night, I am just drawing from memory.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 04:34:10 2020 No.4351658 >>4351606 You will never stop feeling that way (unless you want to / get lazy), but you will get used to it.

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 04:43:09 2020 No.4351665

>>4351658
Or should I say -- you will never stop seeing flaws, they just won't make you sad anymore, because you've given up or moved on.
Art block and depression days aside, sometimes it can be enjoyable to notice what kind of errors you make and what flaws you have.

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 04:50:06 2020 No.4351669

why don't people post albums of their work for critiques here? it's almost always just a single image, or a couple.

you can't give an accurate critique to someone when you only see a few examples of their work.

the other problem I see is people asking for specifics, that's useless. you want generalized advice that will apply to the brunt of your work. if a /beg/ posts a single image and works on it bit by bit they'll never get good.

look at conceptart forums and how it worked there, people posted bunch of shit and then they asked what to work on. instead of shit like "does this hand look right??" the only time you want specific advice is if you're working on something huge like an illustration that took you 20 hours.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 04:52:33 2020 No.4351673 >>4351669 /ic/ lays into people for just one image. Getting ripped dozens of times in one post is probably too much for anons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 05:02:39 2020 No.4351678 >>4351669 Nobody draws, how would we have obtained albums of work?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 05:04:28 2020 No.4351682 >>4351623 >>4351665 thanks, in the future I hope that I'll at least be better at spotting mistakes earlier, before the colouring and so on

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 06:09:55 2020 No.4351730 >>4350517 stop by starting to draw cartoons

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 06:13:14 2020 No.4351733 File: 1.84 MB, 3433x2979, body.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Henlo, am I anatomizing right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 06:16:27 2020 No.4351735 >>4351733 Try again after resizing your picture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 06:32:19 2020 No.4351743 >>4351669 i do it sometimes. not in the beg thread but in progress threads, promotion threads and others

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 06:53:33 2020 No.4351768 File: 262 KB, 882x748, fullbody 02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4351735 Mb, I didn't read the OP.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 07:00:37 2020 No.4351773 >>4350376 bumping for a response

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 07:01:41 2020 No.4351775 >>4351773 Haha you garbage

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 07:02:44 2020 No.4351777 >>4351775 something constructive, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 07:37:22 2020 No.4351809 >>4351768 bump I just want someone to tell me if the anatomy is ok or if I fucked something major

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 07:38:36 2020 No.4351812
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>>4350826
>Read Bridgman
>face construction
>Is literally the opposite of the Loomis construction
>have to start from 0 again

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 07:40:55 2020 No.4351816 >>4351812 >the opposite it's just another method you absolute clown

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 08:07:50 2020 No.4351845 >>4351812 if you know bridgman use bridgman, loomis is a dork

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 08:29:40 2020 No.4351859

>>4351400
I know you guys are hating on this and I do see your point about the pelvis but I still want to fuck it. Asuka poster has improved a lot. Bruh, finish one of these. Give it some clean lines and render so I can fap to it. It's not perfect, it could be better but it's good enough. Don't throw it away and start over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 08:31:32 2020 No.4351861 >>4351768 The traps on the right looks asymmetrical. I'm no anatomy pro but something is jumping out at me as being off.

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 08:45:32 2020 No.4351867

>>4351242
It's hard to draw someone sitting on the floor without making them sit like a retard or a baby or like they have a pole in their ass. I wanted to make him a military dude cleaning his gun but then I realized cleaning his gun means that his arms would be blocking his torso so I just said fuck it. I'll redo the whole thing but can anyone give me some specifics about how to fix the legs, back, arms, etc.? I don't a ref. Couldn't find one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 08:58:57 2020 No.4351873 >>4350261 honestly looks like a 3d render of a videogame, great job

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 09:35:20 2020 No.4351910
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>>4347631
>>4347644
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>>4347854
>>4348245
>>4348322
>>4348536
>>4348793
>>4349007
>>4349146
>>4349251
>>4349283
>>4349454
>>4349699

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHaSlu8jKE8

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 09:42:17 2020 No.4351918 >>4351910 yep, I'm never gonna post anything in this thread ever again

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 09:45:08 2020 No.4351920 >>4351918 Don't want to learn? Anymore?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 09:47:50 2020 No.4351924 >>4351910 This is kind of a shitty thing to do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:09:15 2020 No.4351944 File: 184 KB, 374x546, Mipha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haha time to post a polished turd!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:11:40 2020 No.4351948 >>4348793 Personally I think it's worse

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:29:13 2020 No.4351964 >>4351910 Please fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:29:45 2020 No.4351965 >>4351924 How is this shitty? /beg/ ur feelings hurt???

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:49:22 2020 No.4351982 >>4351944 flip

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:49:24 2020 No.4351983 >>4351965 yes please don't talk to me ever again

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:52:19 2020 No.4351988 >>4351983 come on draw more! I promise next time I will be gentle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 10:55:56 2020 No.4351991 >>4351910 based

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 11:16:26 2020 No.4352012 >>4351924 >F YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 12:11:51 2020 No.4352098 >>4351944 I really like colors and shading, even the overall structure isn't bad. you really need to work on symmetry and how things are proportioned though. (the relative size and position of her torso and arms seems off, etc.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 12:14:38 2020 No.4352102 File: 100 KB, 1022x1280, photo_2020-02-06_10-13-20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would appreciate if somebody redlined me. Hate the legs.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 12:40:21 2020 No.4352144 >wanna draw >don't know WHAT to draw Bros...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 12:50:42 2020 No.4352154 File: 3.42 MB, 4904x2976, hand sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm kinda liking how this one turned out

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 12:54:59 2020 No.4352158 >>4351918 >>4351924 this is unironically good advice, shut the fuck retards

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 12:55:17 2020 No.4352159 >>4352144 get another hobby retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 13:16:28 2020 No.4352201 File: 113 KB, 1000x1000, 6_Feb_2020 Project.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just posting my trash before bed

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 13:21:53 2020 No.4352209 File: 232 KB, 715x1000, test.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] all i can fucking do is copy im a fucking fraud

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 13:52:46 2020 No.4352242 >>4352144 Finding out what you want to draw is like the simplest part of drawing, wtf

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 13:54:35 2020 No.4352247 File: 64 KB, 958x967, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4352209

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 13:57:43 2020 No.4352258 File: 157 KB, 1200x715, 1557237404051.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tried to draw from reference and then from imagination in a similar pose (used some reference for the right foot though).

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:00:04 2020 No.4352262 >>4352258 Left leg on the referenced image looks far too short, and that weird black line on her ass doesn't make much sense either

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:08:42 2020 No.4352276 File: 99 KB, 658x696, 1576931436058.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4352262 going by the reference its not too short, i just messed up at foreshortening you're right about that line, i just attempted a little fix, what do you think

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:12:30 2020 No.4352284

what's a good book to get now that I'm almost done drawing on the right side of the brain? I'd like to start working on figures/anatomy but I'm not sure which one is the best choice. people talk about the loomis books all the time but I'm just wondering if there are alternatives.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:13:19 2020 No.4352288 >>4352276 Butt looks much better! And I thought that might be it on foreshortening.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:15:57 2020 No.4352294 >>4352284 Get the head drawing and figure drawing book from Loomis and see how you like them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:32:49 2020 No.4352312 >>4352201 no lib cage

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:35:59 2020 No.4352315 someone make new thread pls fine and thank you

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:38:46 2020 No.4352318 >>4352315 you do it

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:47:13 2020 No.4352330 >>4352318 n-no you first!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 14:54:44 2020 No.4352335 >>4351918 Don't be a pussy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:23:22 2020 No.4352375 >>4351768 imo looks really good what tutorial did you follow?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:44:06 2020 No.4352439 File: 173 KB, 824x819, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The legs are fucked, that much I know. Help me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:48:53 2020 No.4352447 >>4352098 I noticed later yesterday that he arms are off big time. Almost looks like a coomer, just not much time to work on it today and ran out of steam

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:49:09 2020 No.4352448 >>4352439 He looks like a hunchback

Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:50:42 2020 No.4352450
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What are some good hair tutorials to peep at? I'm gonna look at some when I get a chance today, but I want to get better at drawing hair as well as pubic hair, since my gals have a lot of regular hair and I want to dabble in pubes

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:52:46 2020 No.4352454 >>4352450 hair should be the last of your worries

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:55:40 2020 No.4352459 >>4352439 you need to measure your stuff better check the distance from the foot to butt cheek and compare it to the distance in your reference pic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:57:59 2020 No.4352466 >>4352450 >those feet like some other anon said, the hair should be the least of your worries Loomis up

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 15:58:27 2020 No.4352467 >>4352459 Right, I see what you mean. Honestly, I just eyeball it every time, should I be literally measuring with something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 16:03:47 2020 No.4352475 Should I read Loomis head and hands book before his figure drawing book?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 16:11:45 2020 No.4352480 >>4352467 You need to get your measurements right. Since eyeballing doesn't seem to work for you, yes, you do need to measure your distances with something. No rules just tools

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 16:26:43 2020 No.4352499 >>4352480 I'll keep that in mind for the future, is just eyeballing it a skill that one can pick up, or will I just be a slave to the ruler forever if I want to proportion things properly?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 16:30:47 2020 No.4352508 >>4352499 Every skill can be learned, but some people might find some skills more difficult to pick up than others.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 6 16:46:10 2020 No.4352535 >>4352533 >>4352533 >>4352533 >>4352533 new

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 7 11:17:45 2020 No.4353900 >>4351910 why are people mad? this is constructive criticism

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 7 19:48:04 2020 No.4354588 File: 76 KB, 396x1554, ergaeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Using a bump limit thread for a sfw board

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