/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4325047]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4321357

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4325057]

drawing is a curse
its on my mind whole day and i cant just start doing anything and not feel guilty that i dont draw

[Anonymous No.4325060]

[Anonymous No.4325063]

Working on my gestures, line work , let me know what you think sorry for the bad quality pictures.

[Anonymous No.4325064]

>>4325060

[Anonymous No.4325065]

>>4325063

[Anonymous No.4325069]

is there a sai2 download that won't give me a bitcoin miner

[Anonymous No.4325070]

>>4325028

I always post in these things immediately before the new thread gets made

[Anonymous No.4325073]

Is there anything that I fucked up?

[Anonymous No.4325074]

>>4325047
Is it a mistake for me to be trying to learn by using a tablet? Should I be sticking with paper until I know what I'm doing? I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere

[Anonymous No.4325075]

>>4325073
Goddammit, I forgot to rotate the pic

[Anonymous No.4325078]

>>4325074
You need to purchase the new Apple iPad Pro 12.9; the 2nd gen Apple Pencil draws exactly the same as a real pencil.

[Anonymous No.4325083]

>>4325078
> apple products

[Anonymous No.4325085]

>>4325078

[Anonymous No.4325087]

I miss when OPs used images from the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.4325096]

>>4325078
fuck off already

[Anonymous No.4325098]

>>4325073
Ass and leg don't interact like that. Use ref for poses like this.

[Anonymous No.4325099]

>>4325074

Yes, it’s a mistake. Learn fundies through pencil then move onto a tablet >>4325078 when you’re ready.

[Anonymous No.4325103]

tried screentones for the first time

[Anonymous No.4325112]

>>4325103
forgot to resize

[Anonymous No.4325114]

fap time.

[Anonymous No.4325116]

>>4325073
>Is there anything that I fucked up?
>3254x2448
>sideways
Besides that, I don't think it's half bad.

[Anonymous No.4325120]

>>4325047
Did I break gokus back?

[Anonymous No.4325123]

Working on my gestures, line work , let me know what you think sorry for the bad quality pictures.

I resized the pic

[Anonymous No.4325124]

>>4325123
Heres the other

[Anonymous No.4325182]

>>4325087
/beg/ threads are so bad nowadays. 70% shitposting 20% people posting their studies 5% finished work 5% advice.

[Anonymous No.4325238]

How do I get the right side looking less maleficent is more fat like the ref?

[Anonymous No.4325239]

>>4325238
ref

[Anonymous No.4325260]

The amount of good artists if depressing desu browsing gelbooru and nearly everything looks so good (except that one western artist trying to imitate someone else style)

[Anonymous No.4325266]

>>4325238
>>4325239
You're symbol drawing quite a bit. Face is too long, no lower eyelid, lines are too dirty, proportions are all fucked. Try the Loomis head model, look at the reference more and analyze it instead of just making random lines where you think they would go.

[Anonymous No.4325271]

bros...
what if we don't make it?

[Anonymous No.4325288]

Not sure if I'm feeling the shape

[Anonymous No.4325289]

>>4325065
Oh my god these are so fucking bad. Literal garbage. Please just give up, you wont make it anon.

[Anonymous No.4325290]

>>4325238
>>4325239

finish the entire face. don't do things half-assed. you're going to fail anyway. you're not going to make a masterpiece anytime soon. So fail gloriously by drawing a warped human face. fail and learn. that's the learning process.

[Anonymous No.4325298]

Horse study.

[Anonymous No.4325303]

>>4325065

it's good. keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4325306]

>>4325298
work on their manes i think it would drastically improve your work

[Anonymous No.4325307]

>>4325073

not bad. do 100 more.

[Anonymous No.4325331]

[Anonymous No.4325341]

did a little loomis and some 3d. what do i need to change b4 i fully comit to the drawing?

(smallish size breasts)

[Anonymous No.4325349]

>>4325341

[Anonymous No.4325352]

>>4325349
pyw avatarfag

[Anonymous No.4325353]

>>4325298
Vnice bro

[Anonymous No.4325358]

>>4325349
u gonna help or not?

fuckin niggerfaggot

[Anonymous No.4325363]

>>4325341
FFS people have given you help and even redlines before yet you still continue to ignore them and keep drawing chicken scratchey animu doodles. I would give you some advice but after your snarky reply the other thread when I told you to read Keys to Drawing you can take that pencil and go fuck yourself with it.

[Anonymous No.4325370]

>>4325341
Keep practicing the basics faggot your work is too dogshit to "fully commit it to drawing".

[Anonymous No.4325372]

>>4325358
I agree with the obnoxious Satanachia (or whatever the fuck she's called)fag, develop some self evaluating skills and use you smoothbrain to figure out what's wrong because that looks laughably bad, like "a preschooler drew this" bad.

[Anonymous No.4325373]

>>4325341
Nice chicken scratches.

[Anonymous No.4325376]

>>4325341
>Loomis
show me your Loomis/Blook balls first because it doesn't even look like you applied it properly, don't lie now

[Anonymous No.4325383]

Working on this, it's my first digital painting and I've been experimenting with it. Now I have to color it

[Anonymous No.4325390]

>>4325383
why aren't you studying loomis? is there something wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.4325391]

hi i would appreciate any advice on this

[Anonymous No.4325399]

>>4325390
Loomis has come to my drawings...

[Anonymous No.4325422]

Why didn't you link in the old thread?

[Anonymous No.4325425]

>>4325399
>You remember my venerable deviantart, opulent and imperial, gazing proudly from its stoic perch upon the trending artists section.
>I spent all my days on that site, swapping unfinished sketches of anime original characters, made lazy by templates and pillow shading. And yet, I began to tire of being unable to draw faces outside of a 3/4 view...

[Anonymous No.4325426]

>>4325422

[Anonymous No.4325433]

>>4325425
>Singular unsettling posters suggested loomis was a gateway to some fabulous and unamable power.
>With pen and paper I bent every effort towards the study and practice of those long buried secrets...

[Anonymous No.4325450]

>>4325391
this looks terrible. study loomis or else youll look like some delusional autistic freak

[Anonymous No.4325467]

So I suppose I'm not asking for critique on the art itself. Or maybe I am, idk. But when working on digital art, is pen sensitivity standard? Like, okay, I used Gimp before and so my lines would be smooth and uniform, just wrong anatomy. But here I tried using Autodesk Sketchbook which supports pressure so my lines are much less uniform. Is it something I should be getting used to? Something to practice later but work on my anatomy first?

[Anonymous No.4325471]

>>4325467
Most artists use pressure sensitivity, yes.

[Anonymous No.4325487]

Hi here are some sketches i did today in a cafe. I'm having trouble sketching people quickly and especially when they are moving

[Anonymous No.4325523]

How many days is it until your shoulder stops hurting after a little while? Just looking for a ballpark

[Anonymous No.4325529]

>>4325288
nigger

[Anonymous No.4325537]

>>4325288
sauce

[Anonymous No.4325545]

Alright how broken is the pelvis

[Anonymous No.4325559]

>>4325537
I just typed in reference photo in google and scrolled down until I saw this

[Anonymous No.4325565]

>>4325471
I see. So I suppose I should keep using Autodesk then so I can learn pressure along with the rest of my practicing.

[Anonymous No.4325567]

>>4325391
The other guy is a faggot. It's solid, although I'd like to see it finished to be sure. Only problem I have with it is she's upside down but the clothing don't seem to react well to that.

[Anonymous No.4325635]

>>4325565
Pressure sensitivity simulates like
a real pencil
so I would use it yeah

Doodling an orc waifu

[Anonymous No.4325646]

How long should I be drawing a day? is 4-5hours good or should it be like 8 hours?

[Anonymous No.4325652]

>>4325341
>3d
where's the 3d?

[Anonymous No.4325654]

>>4325646
I think 4-5 hours is perfectly fine for making gains but if you want to do more then go for it.

[Anonymous No.4325658]

>>4325363
You can't really get on /beg/s for chicken scratching. Telling someone not to chicken scratch is like telling a beginning guitar player "don't play out of tune". You can't just consciously decide "ah ok I'll do it right now", it's just something that has to come with practice.

[Anonymous No.4325696]

>>4325266
worse. I don't think the construction I traced over the ref was bad but I'd appreciate it if someone could show me theirs

[Anonymous No.4325701]

>>4325696

that's not loomis. copy the proper contruction and fill at least 2 pages of just head construction front,side, 3 quarter.

[Anonymous No.4325713]

>>4325701
I tried to fit it to her head. I guess I don't know how to do it, Can you show me?

[Anonymous No.4325733]

why am i so bad at making silhouettes of characters? 1/2 post this is my shitty retard art

[Anonymous No.4325738]

>>4325733
this is an example of something i literally could never draw if i tried 1,000,000,0 times and its such a simple little stupid tumblr drawing and yet i cant do it and yes i study anatomy and stuff but i cant draw little cartoon characters! i am retard

[Anonymous No.4325746]

>>4325713

not that anon but what do you mean "fit to her head'? are you trying to change the construction so it fits what you think the shape of her head is?

[Anonymous No.4325753]

>>4325713
You're not doing it right, Proko has a a 2 part video series explaining how to do the Loomis method and apply it to different head shapes.

Here is the first part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAOldLWIDSM

Also, in >>4325696 you're exagerating the chin and cheekbones too much, like I said, look at the reference and analyze the exact shape of it. Some people tend to say to look at the reference more than your drawing, I think that's not good advice to beginners, but it shows how important it is to understand what you're looking at. It may sound cheesy, but you really need to feel the shapes.

If after all of this you still can't make a decent basic head you should probably go study simple 3D shapes and perspective.

[Anonymous No.4325772]

still practicing hands over and over, first time trying to use a tilt pencil brush to lay out tone

[Anonymous No.4325774]

>>4325545
Right arm is deformed, much too short

[Anonymous No.4325788]

>>4325738
Stop shitting on yourself and maybe you'll improve. If it helps, both of the things you posted are about the same. Stop studying anatomy, and go study gesture and construction until you can apply anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4325790]

>>4325635
shoved out a little portrait too

[Dumbfuck No.4325792]

last time i posted i was put in a group (you) and told NGMI and to learn to code so i hope this time it goes a little better ^_^
im aware that my shadings bad, i wanna know what i can do with the neck/chest area, i know the design i want, i just dont know how to execute it

[Anonymous No.4325795]

>>4325772
The thumbnail looks great- I don't mean that in a cunty way.
It looks like you're using a digital chalk brush for no apparent reason

[Anonymous No.4325809]

>>4325795
it's a pencil brush in csp that makes flat tone when you tilt the pen, when its at a regular angle it behaves like a normal pencil

[Anonymous No.4325817]

>>4325792
My honest to goodness advice for you is to let go of the notion that you can somehow improve this piece. There's nothing appealing about it and it tells me you know nothing of the use of colour, line weight, lighting, form, or composition. Do not get so invested in a single piece of work that you struggle to move on from it. Understand that everything you do will be riddled with mistakes, and that those mistakes come with the opportunity to learn. So when working on something, look forward to the next one. It's likely going to be better than the last.

What you can actually do is drop this piece, learn some actual fundies, and try again whilst applying what you learned.

[Anonymous No.4325822]

>>4325635
>>4325790
You could make better use of your line weight. You've got such a heavy stroke on that orc's left forearm sticking out like a sore thumb, for example. Try using a generally thicker and even line thickness for contours and thinner lines/smoother strokes for features and details within said contours.

[Dumbfuck No.4325823]

>>4325817
thanks anon, i didnt want to hear that but thats something i needed to hear

[Anonymous No.4325825]

>>4325772
Very nice; would be nicer to see more.

[Dumbfuck No.4325828]

>>4325817
once i do learn fundamentals, should i give this piece another go?

[Anonymous No.4325830]

>>4325828
do whatever you want once you know what you're doing

[Anonymous No.4325842]

>>4325828
You can do whatever you want. You're asking that question because you're still invested in that piece. It's normal when you don't have the mileage of hundreds of pieces under your belt, but cut it out. It would be a decent before/after comparison, but that'd be best after at least a decent chunk of time, like at least a year. Moreover, you don't have to limit yourself to a portrait of a dragon looking down. Once again, do whatever you want.

Also cut out the namefaggotry. Making it self-deprecating doesn't make it fine. Let your work define you.

[NotDumbFuck No.4325850]

>>4325842
thank you again anon

[Anonymous No.4325853]

noodling

[Anonymous No.4325854]

Bob Ross krita to learn krita

[Anonymous No.4325856]

>>4325853
Nice job

Feel like my imaginative female faces got just a wee better, inching towards progress

[Anonymous No.4325862]

i don't lay down any values or thorough construction lines before starting to fully render, am i retarded? is this okay to do?

[Anonymous No.4325866]

>>4325862
It's fine if your work looks good. People can get to the point where they've internalized the steps enough to skip them, but if skipping steps produces mistakes, you know what will fix that.

[Anonymous No.4325871]

>>4325746
I was trying to do what the anon below you posted

>>4325753
I can see the shapes/proportions through digitally breaking it down, but I can't recreate it manually. I also don't understand how to apply 3d/perspective to a head beyond the angle/basic forms. If theres something I'm supposed be seeing with the face beyond planes then I'm not aware of what that is

[Anonymous No.4325875]

My first attempt at working with form and light and texture in pen and ink. Any advice on (preferably video) resources?

[Anonymous No.4325883]

>>4325060
>>4325063
>>4325065
>>4325073
>>4325112
>>4325114
>>4325120
>>4325123
>>4325124
>>4325238
>>4325288
>>4325298
>>4325341
>>4325383
>>4325391
>>4325467
>>4325487
>>4325545
>>4325635
>>4325696
>>4325772
>>4325790
>>4325792
>>4325853
>>4325854
>>4325856
>>4325875
Stop ruining my visual library.

[Anonymous No.4325885]

>>4325883
this is /beg/ idk what you were expecting retard

[Anonymous No.4325886]

>>4325883
this post made me forget how to draw

[Anonymous No.4325893]

>>4325883

another normie coming here to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.4325894]

>>4325871
>I can see the shapes/proportions through digitally breaking it down, but I can't recreate it manually.
So you're having problems with technique? Like, accuracy and pencil handling? Because if you truly can see them right, you shouldn't have any problem with drawing them. If it is that, just continue practicing whatever you want, technique comes with time.

If that's not the problem, appart from what I've already said the only other thing I can recommend you is to try to draw over your reference using basic shapes, making kind of a low poly 3D version of it, and use that along with the original reference to make your drawing.

>I also don't understand how to apply 3d/perspective to a head beyond the angle/basic forms.
The same way you apply it in everything that isn't completely flat. Perspective isn't just foreshortening. Everything has volume. While you practice Loomis, try to do turnarounds of the same faces to understand.

[Anonymous No.4325897]

>>4325853

you're not /beg/ go to draw thread or something

[Anonymous No.4325904]

>>4325853
/int/

[Anonymous No.4325905]

>>4325788
>Stop shitting on yourself and maybe you'll improve.
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.4325917]

>>4325905
Stop putting yourself down. Focus on what you can do instead of what you can't do.

[Anonymous No.4325921]

>>4325905
>why am i so bad
>this is my shitty retard art
>this is an example of something i literally could never draw if i tried 1,000,000,0 times and its such a simple
>i am retard

Stop this mentality. If you're starting out, things will naturally be hard. You need to practice more with the understanding that it may take you a very long time in order to improve. This will be frustrating. Move past that.

[Anonymous No.4325924]

>>4325921
yeah save the self loathing for when you're not making any progress
enjoy the /beg/ gains

[Anonymous No.4325926]

[Anonymous No.4325932]

>>4325738

don't be too critical on yourself. that's bad habit. you'll end up finding fault with your work even after you improved. just change your mindset.

>>4325853

very nice.

[Anonymous No.4325944]

Should I develop my style on the side for every realistic exercise I do? I'm afraid I'll learn only boring realistic art and then not be able to make interesting drawings with personality.

[Anonymous No.4325962]

Bunch of sketches I've done over the past month

[Anonymous No.4326039]

>>4325921
how do i stop that mentality because every time i draw i get frustrated because i hate everything i make because its not good enough

[Anonymous No.4326046]

This is frustrating

[Anonymous No.4326062]

>>4325926
>>4325962
>>4326046


>>4325883

[Anonymous No.4326064]

>>4326062

Why are you in a thread dedicated to people posting their shitty baby work if you're afraid of your visual library being tampered?

Do you have brain issues anon?

[Anonymous No.4326066]

>>4325962
The faces needs a lot work more work but overall nice work keep at it

[Anonymous No.4326067]

>>4325883
what did they actually mean by this?
for real.
they bein' a snob? 'sat what this is? they're bein' a snob aren't they?

[Anonymous No.4326069]

>>4326067
(´・ω・`)

[Anonymous No.4326071]

>>4325962
¯\_ (´・ω・`)_/¯

[Anonymous No.4326075]

Which of these are the closest to what I should be doing for Vilppu gestures laid out here?
https://www.awn.com/mag/issue3.3/3.3pages/3.3vilppudrawing.html

[Anonymous No.4326079]

>>4325074
The reality is digital is what most people use and unless you are trying to replicate traditional mediums in a digital format, then it is in my opinion completely fine to learn with a tablet.

[Anonymous No.4326098]

feeties

[Anonymous No.4326124]

>>4325853
Why does eveyone draw black African women with strong jaws

[Anonymous No.4326131]

>>4325883
holy fucking BASED

[Anonymous No.4326133]

>>4325883
>>4326062

post your work

[Anonymous No.4326134]

>>4325487
Is this on digital? What setting do you use to get that pencil texture?

[Anonymous No.4326136]

>>4326133
Sit down!

[Anonymous No.4326137]

>>4325738
Pic related is fucking awful. Just stylized enough to fool normies such as yourself. Don't be intimidated by shit art.

[Anonymous No.4326140]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4326142]

>>4326140
looks lilke a hotline miami head
i also hate it

[Anonymous No.4326145]

So is it a good idea to trace some loomis heads on tracing paper for a warm up, using that as a reference to draw on normal paper with a mechanical pencil, use a back light putting the tracing paper under the normal paper and then draw over it with a pen so I have the contrast between whatever fuck up I did free hand with a mechanical pencil vs the tracing with a pen then drawing it somewhere else with a pencil until I get it right?

[Anonymous No.4326147]

Any feedback?

[Anonymous No.4326152]

>>4326147
Is that Rey Skywalker?

[Anonymous No.4326153]

>>4326136

thats nice anon


now post your real work

[Anonymous No.4326154]

>>4326137
should i stylize my art to fool normies such as myself because i feel bad about myself for not being able to draw that and picrel (by the same artist)
i feel like a sad, old boomer for not being able to produce creative stylized artwork.. they dont even care about fundamentals they just draw and produce art everyone loves and they make 100 friends on discord....

[Anonymous No.4326155]

>>4326152
nah, here's the ref I used:

[Anonymous No.4326156]

creative processing

[Anonymous No.4326158]

25m figure drawing and some 5-10m face studies

[Anonymous No.4326159]

>>4326153
>>4326136

[Anonymous No.4326161]

>>4326156
how do you come up with such creative and youthful ideas such as this post?? how do you produce this kind of ironic, young humor effortlessly???

[Anonymous No.4326163]

If you can't see 6 in your mind's eye, then you're NGMI.

[Anonymous No.4326173]

>>4326161

by being 100% serious

[Anonymous No.4326192]

>>4326140
Not currently no.

[Anonymous No.4326195]

>>4326173
u dont understand that you have a gift and u should be grateful you have that gift. there are many of us out there, NPCs with no creativity who cannot produce meaningful humorous content. be grateful!

[Anonymous No.4326197]

>>4326156
This is not how you do drawabox

[Anonymous No.4326225]

>>4325047
how do I draw cute men without making them look like sissy faggots or moe anime looking shit

[Anonymous No.4326229]

>>4326225
Do everyone a solid and post what you'd call a cute man.

[Anonymous No.4326231]

>>4326195

tyty

i made a color tutorial :)

[Anonymous No.4326249]

>>4326134
Yes, it is digital. I used procreate's hb pencil

[Anonymous No.4326250]

I have tried drawing faces for a year and I still can’t draw for shit. I’m not interested in drawing anything else like plants or landscapes. I tried loomis and all the other shit but it’s just not clicking for me. This sketch was drawn with a reference. Should I give up?

[Anonymous No.4326252]

>>4326250
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.4326256]

>>4326252
How many hours did you draw per week on average?

[Anonymous No.4326278]

>>4326156
hi peter

[Anonymous No.4326293]

>>4325060
I actually really really like this.

[Anonymous No.4326300]

>>4326250
Loomis is merely one tool among many. Just grinding Loomis heads won't actually teach you how to draw complete and appealing faces. Draw copies of drawings of faces that you think are good, if you aren't doing that already. Not photos of real people, but drawings, the kind of art that you want to be able to draw. Also don't worry about drawing complete heads, feel free to spend some time just drawing eyes, or just drawing noses. Whenever you find an artist who has, for example, a particularly appealing way of drawing eyes, copy the techniques they use, and use the same technique in drawings from multiple different angles and on different facial expressions to try to commit it to memory.
Aimlessly grinding Loomis heads only takes you so far, you need to really drill down into the details if you want to start leveling up.

[Anonymous No.4326324]

>>4326250
Missed the part where you said you drew >>4326252 with a reference. You need to forget about the rest of my advice and learn how to actually copy things from reference first. Construction can actually confuse things sometimes when copying from reference unless you really know what you're doing, so I would recommend just going back to the super basics and learning how to see an image as an arbitrary collection of lines and tones, and how to put those on paper. Do the upside down Stravinsky exercise, stuff like that. If you want to draw faces then you can still take my advice about focusing on individual facial features and just do copies of individual eyes, individual noses, etc. Learn how to make them good. There are lots of step by step videos on youtube for things like drawing realistic eyes. I also think it will be easier to learn if you use pencil and paper instead of digital, certainly I find laying down tone and gradations to be more intuitive on paper than digital, but ymmv.

[Anonymous No.4326337]

>>4325822
Oh yeahh I still basically suck at doing that.
I'm trying to develop every skill from perspective to color to line work a little at a time so I'm kinda fumbling about desu

[Anonymous No.4326347]

>>4326124
It's aesthetically pleasing to ejaculate on a black woman's face because of the black & white contrast

[Anonymous No.4326348]

>>4326225
Widen the shoulders, make them taller

[Anonymous No.4326357]

>>4326256
About 1 hour a day so I guess 7 hours.
>>4326300
>Whenever you find an artist who has, for example, a particularly appealing way of drawing eyes, copy the techniques they use
In my experience all the “techniques” good artists use are just formalities and they can draw very well without any construction/technique.
>>4326324
Ok.

[Anonymous No.4326362]

>>4326357
I think you misunderstood what I meant by "techniques". Maybe that wasn't a good word. I meant, where they choose to use contours or not, how thick they make their lines or where they leave them absent entirely, where they choose to use shadows or not, how dark or crisp or blurry they make those shadows, the general shapes they use, basically everything about the drawing that goes beyond mere construction.

[Anonymous No.4326363]

>>4325774
Jesus I have no idea how I didn't notice that, thanks

[Anonymous No.4326374]

>>4325897
>>4325904
>successfully drawing one head from reference is enough to graduate from /beg/
Come on people. Hold yourselves to some standards.

[Anonymous No.4326388]

>>4325853
Go to /beg+/

[Anonymous No.4326399]

>>4325047

[Anonymous No.4326404]

>tfw taken the Bridgman pill

[Anonymous No.4326417]

>>4325028
Last ones legs were too short, now i think they might be too long.

Hogarth suggests constructing starting with the torso. I have found doing this makes my drawings feel more balanced and stable, but I seem to have issues figuring out the proportions from just a torso.

[Anonymous No.4326422]

xzcvzx

[Anonymous No.4326428]

>>4326147
The rendering is good, but the facial proportions are slightly off, giving her the Innsmouth look. I tried to fix it with the move tool, but couldn't get it looking right, sorry.

[Anonymous No.4326439]

>>4326250
Have you improved at all during the year? Are the faces you drew at the start worse than the one you posted?

[Anonymous No.4326491]

How do you improve without forgetting previous knowledge? Is this how imposter-syndrome forms?

[Anonymous No.4326498]

>>4326491
This post terrifies me, but surely the before pic was a days long process and the after was a 2 minute doodle, right?

[Anonymous No.4326508]

>>4326439
I honestly don’t know. Here’s a face from 2019 and one from 2020.

[Anonymous No.4326541]

>>4325047
I have a question!

I know my proportions are shit but my question is about perspective. In 3 point perspective like Pic related, is it correct that the head would be bigger? My natural reflex is to think that anything above the horizon would start to get smaller again but if I did that it would be 4 point. It just looks wrong to me because since the head is above the horizon, it seems like we're looking up at the head so the further up it is, the further away it is, the smaller it should be. Logically I think that's wrong but why does it feel wrong that the head is bigger. I hope my question makes sense.

[Anonymous No.4326544]

>>4325064

source?

[Anonymous No.4326551]

>>4326541
Someone fix me if I'm wrong, but with the 3rd point being below the horizon, I think anything above the horizon would require a 4th point. To use 3 points I think youd have to raise the viewing angle so that that everything is below or at least closer to the horizon.

[Anonymous No.4326566]

>>4326491
There is an unlearning curve as much as a learning curve, but it's quite slow that you wouldn't have to worry about it within the span of mere days unless you had serious mental impairments. You can internalize knowledge much better than that, especially when you're applying it repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.4326576]

>>4326491
that's etch a sketch though right?

[Anonymous No.4326578]

please criticise
>>4325854
whoa that's great

[Anonymous No.4326583]

>>4326578
also this

[Anonymous No.4326584]

>>4326583
also this

[Anonymous No.4326585]

>>4326584
and this

[Anonymous No.4326587]

>>4326585
and this

[Anonymous No.4326589]

>>4326583
I like this one

[Anonymous No.4326596]

>>4326541
You would need 4point. The head could be larger if the figure was oriented towards the viewer, but it's certainly not in this set up. You likely feel it needs to be larger because you're merely following the bottom point, but its use ends at the horizon; it can only describe planes below the viewer, not above. The closest point to the viewer would be around the chest , not the head. Try shrinking the head and neck and how that looks to you.

[Anonymous No.4326600]

>>4326596
I don't understand how this helps for drawing people, since there are so many curves and things pointing to different vanishing points
not him

[Anonymous No.4326610]

>>4326600
In an angle like that, it doesn't help much. At best you'd be able to place the major masses such as the torso but then have to guesswork the rest. Moreover, you wouldn't have to use 4 point on figure drawing because the vertical vanishing points' distortion would be negligible and no forms are particularly aimed towards the viewer. You would need a more dynamic angle and pose or assume a wide lens.

[Anonymous No.4326618]

>>4326600
It helps you get the basic proportions down. It's even more helpful if you're drawing a scene with multiple people in different locations and you want to keep them all in perspective. Once you lay down the basic guidelines though, the rest is filled in mainly by eyeballing it.

[Anonymous No.4326628]

>>4326508
Yeah, this really is pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.4326687]

>>4326541
Yes, things do keep getting bigger and bigger above the horizon. And yes, they should get smaller instead. This is a limitation of three-point perspective.
It looks fine as long as you don't cross the horizon line. If you want a horizon, use two-point perspective instead. (This is equivalent to three-point, with the third vanishing point infinitely far away.) If you're too fancy for that, go curvilinear.

[Anonymous No.4326720]

>>4326583
God digital looks like shit

[Anonymous No.4326721]

>>4326720
aww honey, one picture is not ACTUALLY all pictures! isnt that nifty sweety?

[Anonymous No.4326725]

>>4326721
All digital pictures look like shit

[Anonymous No.4326748]

>>4325047

[Anonymous No.4326751]

How do you guys study? How many times do you practice an exercise in a book? When do you repeat them to strengthen/reaffirm your knowledge or how long are your intervals?

[Anonymous No.4326752]

>>4326720
rude

[Anonymous No.4326758]

>>4325962
the realistic figures you drew are lightyears better than the anime chick honestly, probably to the point I wouldn't think they are done by the same artist.

[Anonymous No.4326767]

>>4326725
Ok gramps

[Anonymous No.4326769]

>>4326751
When it comes to books, Robertson straight up tells you when to read, observe, copy, and grind, so that can be something of a starting point for habits. You want to take a sizable chunk of theory you find interesting or valuable, and internalize it with copying, exercises provided (if any), and attempts from imagination. Put theory to practice.

As far as individual subjects go, it generally goes
>find something to study
>attempt to do it
>try again but with ref
>compare the two noting what you thought was right with what actually is right
>rinse and repeat in different angles until satisfied

[Anonymous No.4326771]

>>4326578
>>4326587
Lines are messy, eyes too big, and subject matter is all boring anime girls.
>>4326583
What is this, some cubist experiment? I don't think it works.
>>4326584
Lines extra messy, eyes too big again, facial features have drifted because you didn't follow the ref and ended up drawing the face from a different angle.
Hair looks okay, though, at least at the back. Too much highlights in the front. Other than that, though, you got light and shadow down pretty well.
>>4326585
>top one
I like the cleaner lines, though line weight is still a bit all over the place. Anatomy is slightly janky, but only slightly. Most notably left-side boob seems to have disappeared, left-side shoulder is too angular and too high, and hips are too thicc compared to waist. Also you completely gave up on the hands. Face is simplified and not the same as ref, but not bad. Fits the style.
7/10 aesthetically pleasing.
>bottom one
Chickenscratch, but at lest you're trying. I think this style looks better than what you did with the rake brush earlier. Proportions are off - lower body has drifted to the left, midsection has stretched to compensate and is also too narrow, chest is too narrow compared to shoulders. Left-side boob has climbed up. Bellybutton too far to the left. Right-side eye has drifted to the side of the head, probably following the hair, which has drifted to seal the gap in the original hairstyle. Nose has stretched to compensate - it still looks like a nose, but it's a different shape. This is a cascading failure. Pay closer attention to proportions.

[Anonymous No.4326786]

>>4326751
I end up repeating them a bunch as a result of frequenting these threads, though a more regular habit like warmup exercises would do me more good.

[Anonymous No.4326805]

link to anatomy for sculptors?

[Anonymous No.4326838]

I started drawing right around christmas times. Well, calling it 'drawing' would be be stretch, as it has been mostly doodling, because I have no idea what I'm doing. About a week or two ago, I decided I wanted to try taking it a little more seriously, and started looking up tutorials and stuff to properly learn. The problem is that failing to produce the result I envision and want, makes me unreasonably angry, to the point of smashing my ruler to pieces, and snapping several pencils in half. Is this normal? Probably not to the extent of destroying shit, but getting angry and frustrated while practicing drawing I mean. It feels like drawing has a negative effect on my mood rather than being a calming and positive experience like I hoped. Is it just that drawing isn't meant for me? Should quit to keep my sanity intact?

[Anonymous No.4326845]

>>4326838
If you don't want to become the best, why even bother?
Getting frustrated is just part of wanting to become the best, so you're gonna make it.
Everytime you see a drawing that's better than yours, you shouldn't admire it, you should be fucking furious.

[Anonymous No.4326856]

>>4326417

[Anonymous No.4326859]

>>4326856
Can you post the ref?
Arms look really out of proportion at first glance.

[Anonymous No.4326862]

>>4326771
thanks alor
>subject matter is all boring anime girls
how to find interesting reference photos? I can waste hours looking for something to do a study of, this was just from an artbook I downloaded.
>what you did with the rake brush earlier
which one is this?

[Anonymous No.4326864]

>>4326859
Sure thing

[Anonymous No.4326881]

>>4326864
It's not as bad as I initially thought.
But proportions are definitely the main issue I think.
Try to measure stuff out more, both height and width.

[Anonymous No.4326884]

>>4326864

[Anonymous No.4326895]

>>4326884
Nice contribution

[Anonymous No.4326896]

crits pls

[Anonymous No.4326910]

>>4326862
>how to find interesting reference photos?
I wish I knew. I sometimes go to www.quickposes.com but a lot of the photos there are also pretty boring.
>which one is this?
This one >>4326584

[Anonymous No.4326912]

>>4326884
Is this art?

[Anonymous No.4326913]

/beg/ here, I have a question: most /beg/ artwork here is I think on a level that even the artist can tell that they can do better, so my question is: should the average /beg/ ask for critique even when he knows that what he draws is subpar (especially when they draw with reference) or wait until they can no longer find fault in their work? Or will the latter approach just lead to bad practices learned?

[Anonymous No.4326918]

>>4326881
Thank you! I have trouble knowing where I should be measuring from - should I measure the legs from the top / bottom of the kneecap, etc. Thank you for your advice though

[Anonymous No.4326920]

>>4326913
Even though you can tell something is wrong, it can be hard to pinpoint what it is, and what you should practice to improve. So even though you know your drawing is hot garbage, having more experienced people point out your mistakes and larger problems can be really beneficial.

[Anonymous No.4326924]

>>4326918
https://www.dorian-iten.com/accuracy/
This should help you out

[Anonymous No.4326935]

>>4326769
>When it comes to books, Robertson straight up tells you when to read, observe, copy, and grind, so that can be something of a starting point for habits.
In his "How to Draw" book, I take it? I started with "Keys to Drawing" by Bert Dodson, but still the very first chapter. If what you're writing is true, then I'll switch over and try to build up a fundamental learning process that way.

[Anonymous No.4326938]

>>4326935
If you're an absolute beginner, I would recommend not starting with scott robertson.

[Anonymous No.4326950]

>>4326938
I have a little bit perspective knowledge, but that's about it. What would you recommend, then?

[Anonymous No.4326953]

>>4326950
If you know basic perspective, then sure, give it a try.

[Anonymous No.4326987]

>>4326953
>basic perspective
As in one-, two- and three-point perspective with the latter lacking a bit. Just out of curiosity, what would've been the other one?

[Anonymous No.4326993]

>>4326987
>As in one-, two- and three-point perspective with the latter lacking a bit.
If you know 2 point perspective, you're good to go.
>Just out of curiosity, what would've been the other one?
Just keep going with keys to drawing.

[Anonymous No.4327008]

>>4326935

finish keys first but don't fucking rush it. do it properly.

[Anonymous No.4327021]

>>4326884
why does this look like its from a game

[Anonymous No.4327022]

anybody have a recommendation for a good starting tablet? preferably not too expensive.

[Anonymous No.4327033]

>>4326912
Yes

[Anonymous No.4327039]

>>4327033
This is bringing out some strong emotions

[Anonymous No.4327073]

>>4327022
HUION Inspiroy H1060P.

[Anonymous No.4327123]

Since Scott Robertson has been mentioned...is there a big difference between his "How to Draw" book and Peter Han's "Dynamic Sketching" course? From what it looks like to me, the course seems like Robertson's book just without the perspective lessons.

[Anonymous No.4327226]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4327228]

>>4326838
Stop being such a fucking sperg and tantruming like a child.

[Anonymous No.4327230]

how could i make the left look more like the right? ignore the little notes haha

[Anonymous No.4327232]

>>4326163
I did't want to accept it, but can you guys literally just imagine things in your head?

I can think of a concept like, "this drawing will be a guy facing sideways, bending over" but actually trying to imagine it never works, it's just words up there

[Anonymous No.4327247]

>>4327232
I can imagine things in my head but i think i have ADHD because every time i try to think of that horse, my mind wanders off and 2 seconds later it turns into an eldritch abomination. So, i don't think it's much use to me while drawing.

[Anonymous No.4327249]

>>4327232
I don't get it. If I say the word 'dog' e.g, you can picture several different kinds of dogs in your mind, right?

[Anonymous No.4327253]

>>4327232
DUDE IT MUST BE APHANTASIA IF YOU PICK UP A GUITAR AND CANT PLAY LIKE SLASH YOU MUST HAVE MUSICTASIA TOO DUDE GIRLS WONT LOOK AT YOU? MUST BE YOUR INCELTASIA SORRY BRO NOTHING YOU CAN DO BAD LUCK

[Anonymous No.4327265]

I have been trying to move my style from a more realistic one to a more stylized one,here's a noodle for ref.
Is it at least pleasing to the eye?

[Anonymous No.4327267]

Tank girl esque character I draw sometimes

[Anonymous No.4327271]

Just a friendly reminder that if you're not a prodigy, you shouldn't bother with art. Art is something that should be left to the exceptional. An average artist is worthless, and if average is your limit, you should really think about finding something else to do.

[Anonymous No.4327273]

>>4327253
ok
>>4327249
Kinda? But it's words, not pictures. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but I can imagine music so I have a hard time understanding how to imagine objects
>>4327271
loser ideology

[Anonymous No.4327276]

>>4327273
Can you imagine a square or a circle in your mind ,then?

[Anonymous No.4327286]

>>4327276
Honestly no. I usually start off my drawings by making a head shape, and then seeing what it looks like, and filling it in from there. Once enough is drawn it gets easier to fill in the gaps

[Anonymous No.4327287]

>>4327273
Try to do a rough sketch of the general shape and continue on it narrowing it down,it's actually a really stupid problem that i think it's more psicological than anything,i find It's the same as talking.
When you want to talk you have a phrase in your mind you actually rephrase it automatically even if nothing changes in the finale wording,you still re-elaborate it,i find that you do it in default with drawing,maybe you imagine a pentagon but you draw a strange exagon,so try to apply the same to drawing,you actually have to kinda force your brain to not elaborate it and draw the pentagon as a pentagon,maybe the arm in your head has a bit sharper edges but you do it rounder automatically,i know It's a bit vague but i hope that it helps


>>4327271
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.4327292]

>>4327287
Even if it's blurry,just draw,you have a super computer uniquely coded behind your eyes,apart from instructions it will usually give you pretty good directions itself

[Anonymous No.4327296]

>>4327286
What do you see in your head then? If it's actual word text, then we can extrapolate it to drawings.

[Anonymous No.4327298]

is it good to do chicken scratch and then erasing the scratches to apply a proper line?

also any tips on size symmetry?

[Anonymous No.4327304]

>>4327287
I'm not worried about it or anything. I draw for fun, it's just interesting

>>4327296
I don't wanna bloat the thread for much longer just trying to say the same thing over and over. I don't see anything, but I can imagine words really well? Idunno brains are weird. I think I'm just a level 2 symbol drawer honestly, but hey it gets me where I need

[Anonymous No.4327305]

>>4327298
Skip the chicken scratch, and try to do proper lines. In due time you will get better at it.

[Anonymous No.4327307]

>>4326404
>line's don't can't draw hands wrap around form
what?

[Anonymous No.4327313]

>>4327304
You...see words in a really cool font in 4k? Or like,you can "feel" the thing that the word is for but cant visualizing it? Like being blind but touching things?

[Anonymous No.4327323]

>>4327232
Sure. You might not get a 100% solid image in your mind, but it's usually enough for drawing. Personally, I find it helpful to imagine myself existing within whatever I want to draw so I can view things from different angles or move things around. I don't know how it is for other people, but I can also imagine how non-physical things would look like if given form, like emotions for example. I've also found that when thinking of people I know or used to know, my imagination assign certain colors to certain people. Like one of my friends I had in elementary school I can still vividly remember as a sort of darkish green.

[Anonymous No.4327344]

>>4327271
Holy shit you're a retard congrats you will ngmi.

[Anonymous No.4327349]

>>4327232
Aphantasia is real but this post is probably bait.

[Anonymous No.4327385]

>>4327232
>"this drawing will be a guy facing sideways, bending over"

something that simple just search for ref draw it once and anytime you need "a guy bending over facing sideways" you wont need to look for a ref.

that's really one of many ways to build up your visual library. you can also reuse that again with different characters that requires a pose of "bending over facing sideways" a girl, humanoid alien? anything with similar anatomy to a human.

look for ref and properly study it.

[Anonymous No.4327386]

[Anonymous No.4327410]

whhat tier is this

[Anonymous No.4327439]

>>4327410
angular

[Anonymous No.4327443]

absolute zommer here
just started drawing and i need advice how can i make this clothes
(from a avatar on a game that i like)

[Anonymous No.4327471]

Reading Keys to Drawing. I don't understand the holding the image part. And how often are you supposed to look at your paper during the drawing blind part? Are you supposed to fix it after drawing?

[Anonymous No.4327476]

>>4327471
Yes

[Anonymous No.4327481]

>>4327471
im very Very new to this i have drawn digitally like 5 times so i don't really know the basics

[Anonymous No.4327508]

How the heck do attach forms like cheeks and chins promerly to my loomis heads

[Anonymous No.4327535]

fuck likeness

[Anonymous No.4327552]

>>4327535
your art reminds me of Incase and i hate it.

[Anonymous No.4327613]

>>4326771
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4327617]

>>4326147

[Anonymous No.4327621]

>>4327265
I think youre too beg to do something like thus yet. Draw more humans from references using constructiobn, your drawing is flat and stiff

[Anonymous No.4327623]

shitty primitives

[Anonymous No.4327671]

>>4327613
>implying I have any

[Anonymous No.4327672]

[Anonymous No.4327673]

>>4327617
Much better.

[Anonymous No.4327706]

I’m new to digital so my paintings are made in one layer and with one brush. Critique?

[Anonymous No.4327708]

>>4327706
Go back to /beg++/

[Anonymous No.4327732]

How are you supposed to use references? Or study? I feel like I didn't learn from drawing this

[Anonymous No.4327733]

>>4327732
Well I know what picture you referenced. You’re supposed to look at the shapes the artist used to give their character form and where they shaded to indicate a light source and make the painting appear 3d. If you just copy the line art, you aren’t going to learn shit.

[Anonymous No.4327735]

>>4327552

im so sorry. I'll be sure to match my shit studies to your taste anon.

[Anonymous No.4327761]

finished it. is it bad

[Anonymous No.4327762]

>>4326155
She looks weird AF what's up with the giant eyes?

[Anonymous No.4327763]

>>4327761
That right arm is giving me nightmares

[Anonymous No.4327765]

>>4327763
her right? or ours? wats wrong with it

[Anonymous No.4327767]

>>4327733
I used construction. You can just barely see it in places like the pelvis

[Anonymous No.4327769]

>>4326156
Looks like a written version of a thread-wordsphere

[Anonymous No.4327770]

>>4327765
The way you shaded the elbow makes it look like the arm is bending towards us like she is double jointed or something. The position of the arm just feels awkward because of the joint combined with the way the hand is gripping the door frame.

[Anonymous No.4327772]

>>4327765
You can use foreshortening on the tricep to make it seem like the arm is bent the correct way.

[Anonymous No.4327793]

>>4327761
What's your name again, son?

[Anonymous No.4327801]

how many decades does it take to escape /beg/ on average

[Anonymous No.4327815]

>>4327801
0.5

[Anonymous No.4327816]

[Anonymous No.4327839]

how can I sketch without the lines looking like hot garbage close up? (as I'm drawing, I see the lines as looking ok until zooming in) .
pic related is imagined figure to demonstrate

[Anonymous No.4327850]

[Anonymous No.4327857]

how did i do?

[Anonymous No.4327895]

>>4327801

I posted a pro sketch last year and the fuckers here shat on it. I would say if no one can tell you what's wrong with it technically you're pretty much above /beg/ post in other thread and see if they tell you to come back here.

[Anonymous No.4327905]

[Anonymous No.4327983]

>>4327850
>Imagine the smell
how did you get such nice linework?

[Anonymous No.4327988]

>>4327983
Why are you smelling his work anon

[Anonymous No.4327998]

>>4327895
>I would say if no one can tell you what's wrong with it technically
Not a great metric because very few people here are capable of giving actual technical critiques. Saying "the anatomy is wrong" or "Loomis" is not "telling someone what's wrong with it technically".

[Anonymous No.4327999]

>tfw you get bored out of your mind practicing anything constructive
>tfw you only enjoy making lines and spirals
>tfw you'll never make it
Let me die.

[Anonymous No.4328021]

>>4327770
>>4327772
okay so i played around with it a little. changed the angle of the forearm and shadows on the arm, not sure if it fixes it though. what i was going for is the arm is directly to the side while the wrist would have to be bent back for the hand to be gripping the door frame by the outside.

>>4327793
it starts with e

[Anonymous No.4328023]

>>4327732
Using reference is generally pretty intuitive. You look at what you're working on and your ref to determine whether or not it matches, then attempt to correct from there. To study, establish what it is that you're trying to learn; what's your focus.

Yes, you used some construction, but you didn't analyze your ref properly. Make sure to make measurements vertically as well as horizontally and try to establish relationships between different elements and shapes. Looking at the shapes made with negative shapes can give you strong hints too. Actually look at it and note what it's doing. Apply what you learned from Keys. For example, the head in your attempt is much larger than in the ref, establish a relationship between at least the head and torso to determine that; the right arm tapers too much as it goes into the forearm which isn't foreshortened enough, making the negative space between the arm and head too large; the breasts don't come out forward to the right enough, should be about a head's width worth of space above them (not including the hair buns); thigh highs come in too low compared to the ref; and so on.

Don't neglect the value of seeing. You have to do that before you put any lines down.

[Anonymous No.4328041]

>>4327839
maybe try drawing 1 solid line instead of 10 shaky ones

[Anonymous No.4328054]

>>4327816
>one wing fd
>no wings
In all seriousness, the foreshortened arm's the strongest thing here. It makes a sore contrast with her other arm that's just much thinner and held up at a very static angle and pose. The pose is almost engaging. I'd recommend redrawing that static arm so it's at least oriented more towards the viewer rather than just aimed straight up and giving her anything but a blank expression.

>>4327839
You're a making a tremendous amount of strokes for lines you could make in only one or two attempts. Fast gestures of ~30 secs or so can really help with that.

>>4327850
Neato.

>>4327857
It's a decent start. Lots of very deliberate strokes so that's nice to see. Make sure to avoid pinching by making use of S curves. You want things to flow into each other.

[Anonymous No.4328069]

>>4327905
Try to overlay your ref over your work. You've misplaced and misaligned a bunch of features. Analyze the ref to find easy to replicate shapes that will let you accurately draw it. Abstraction paired with measuring is a great approach for observational drawing like this.

[Anonymous No.4328132]

what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4328142]

>>4328069
Like this?

[Anonymous No.4328148]

>>4327410
what should i do with the background?

[Anonymous No.4328150]

>>4328132
the reason yours doesnt look as good is because you didnt construct a round head.

[Anonymous No.4328157]

been grinding Loomis recently.

[Anonymous No.4328249]

I work on monsters alongside humans, would love critique on this sketch I made. I wrote some on the side but more is appreciated

[Anonymous No.4328298]

Why is it that it's pretty much impossible to find artists who started late in life with little to none prior experience, even though several billions of people use the internet? Artists beyond the /beg/ stage I mean. Pretty much anyone who posts progress pictures starting from zero, and show good improvement, aren't actually starting from zero, but are rather people who have done creative work/art since they were children, but have never 'taken it seriously'.

[Anonymous No.4328300]

>>4328298
stop coping by coming up with convoluted excuses and get to drawing
faggot

[Anonymous No.4328306]

>>4328300
It's not an excuse. I still plan on going through with learning, and seeing where I end up. It's a real question. I can't be the only one who finds this to be strange. With other skills you can find several examples pretty easily, but finding any decent examples for art is extremely difficult.

[Anonymous No.4328326]

>>4328023
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4328329]

These are some I did today, first time using traditional since I started - I think it's so much easier and fun and I actually like the look of it a lot better compared to what I was able to do in the digital ones ( >>4326578 >>4326585). Is it possible to put them into software as lineart with transparency, without a scanner?
The first 2 are imaginary poses while the smaller 2 are studies from an art book - please criticise and thank you

[Anonymous No.4328341]

>>4328023
So what's the process of learning how to draw something like this from imagination? Do I just draw from the ref a bunch of times? Do I draw from the ref once or twice then do it from imagination? Should I always draw construction under my ref or do I need to figure it out when I'm redrawing the ref?

[Anonymous No.4328458]

>>4328329
>Is it possible to put them into software as lineart with transparency, without a scanner?
never mind, I found out how to do it

[Anonymous No.4328569]

>>4328142
It's better. Flesh it out some more; put down the rest of the features too. Make sure to try to draw it before overlaying the reference over your attempt so you can figure out what you're not getting right. Establish as many relationships between elements and features as you can.

>>4328148
Could make it into a huge castle wall that extends from the top left to the bottom right. Could have the side of the wall and maybe a distant settlement or grassland/forest by the bottom left. Distant mountaintops/ocean/sky at the top right. Just spitballing.

>>4328157
neato

would like to see more past the potato heads

>>4328249
The detailing is strong and you could make something interesting out of this direction. As it is though it seems you're very uncertain about what you're putting down. Your forms are really shaky and you're putting down a dozen strokes too many where one or two could do. With better line economy those excess strokes could serve as shadows or line weight to help things read better. Try to make more deliberate strokes.

>>4328329
They have a nice flow and look. Just don't neglect your hands and forms because the stylization lets you get away with it. the lego hands, dot features, and that lopsided lantern aren't good signs.

Also no, far as I can tell you can't do that. Maybe if you took clean enough pictures and used photoshop to increase and isolate the darkest values as a separate layer, but it'd look really messy and jagged.

>>4328341
You'd find the process in most figure drawing books. It usually boils down to gesture -> construct the major masses -> the minor masses -> refine and render. Obviously CSR has taken liberties with the forms and their proportioning so you'd have to make separate studies to figure out and internalize it, but the core of it remains the same. To answer the rest of your questions: yes.

[Anonymous No.4328780]

Is there any point in drawing for 12+ hours a day? Or do you reach some sort of diminishing returns because you need sleep to properly organize new information you learn?

[Anonymous No.4328811]

>>4326856
didn’t have much time today so I drew a quick tank

[Anonymous No.4328817]

>>4328780
pretty sure you'll fry your brain if you try 12 hours a day
hell most people are only truly productive for about 2-3 hours a day

[Anonymous No.4328826]

>>4328780
did 18 hours a day for a few months , results were great but I destroyed my wrist for the next few years in time to unlearn it all

[Anonymous No.4328896]

i've mostly drawn flat value weeb shit my whole life, so getting into (digital) painting is a massive learning curve for me.
can anyone offer advice for where i am currently with this piece? it's obviously very rough, but what elements can i bring to improve my overall values?
i know adding leaves to the trees will help a lot but i seem to have a hard time with them, so i'm holding out for now. if anyone has any useful tree painting tutorials, i would absolutely welcome that!

[Anonymous No.4328903]

i've mostly drawn flat value weeb shit my whole life, so getting into (digital) painting is a massive learning curve for me.
can anyone offer critique for where i am currently with this piece? it's obviously very rough, but what elements can i bring to improve my overall values?
i know adding leaves to the trees will help a lot but i seem to have a hard time with them, so i'm holding out for now. if anyone has any useful tree painting tutorials, i would absolutely welcome that!

[Anonymous No.4328994]

>>4328903
nice, and I like the composition, I'd love to see your other drawings

[Anonymous No.4329038]

trying to draw and shade a head from imagination. i know there are some symmetry issues but what do you think of the shading? i was trying to apply the shadow pattern from a sphere. people told me to "shade the whole egg" when drawing a head. crit more than welcome.

[Anonymous No.4329042]

>>4329038
sorry, resized

[Anonymous No.4329056]

>>4328994
my other art is just weeb stuff :< bottom half is (cropped) commissions, top is "for fun" doodles.

[Anonymous No.4329081]

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[Anonymous No.4329357]

>>4326229
you lol