/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4209441]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4205447

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

thoughtful critique betters both parties. help each other and try not to get assblasted.

[Anonymous No.4209446]

>>4209441
How do I resize images from a phone?

[Anonymous No.4209450]

>>4209446
SS

[Anonymous No.4209483]

>>4209446
Depends on the phone/OS
Some phones you have to go into gallery and press the image and there should be an edit option
Other phones you may have to download an app
The most guaranteed rout is to plug your phone into your computer and resize it with me paint/paint3d or any other number of photo editor software

[Anonymous No.4209485]

Can anybody help me figure out what I am doing wrong with heads here? I know >loomis and I absolutely love Fun with a Pencil, I just can't seem to get a grasp on his head method, even when I watch videos of people trying to explain it.

[Anonymous No.4209490]

>>4209485
The tip of the nose isn't supposed to align with the center line. It's in a different plane.

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209493]

>>4209485
Doesn't look like much is wrong, just lack of practice and maybe draw more from reference? Try drawing over a bunch of references with the Loomis head along with personal practice from imagination
>>4209490
This too, which you should notice when drawing over a reference

[Anonymous No.4209496]

>>4209485
stupid nigger you dont use the loomis ball to stylize, you are supposed to learn from it then use that knowledge to block your own head , further more you are supposed to learn each feature eyesockets, curvature of the bones/skull /jaw etc before even using the meme ball otherwise it will like shit just like your drawings

[Anonymous No.4209497]

>>4209493
>>4209496
the duality of /ic/

[Anonymous No.4209501]

Any thoughts/suggestions?

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209522]

>>4209501
Is that supposed to be a gauntlet on the right hand? She's got 6 fingers on there
I've got no idea what I'm looking at
Is she nude with weird unfinished lines or is she wearing all skin color clothes? What the fuck is that squiggles line? Is it for the gauntlet or the skin tight skin toned clothing?
For now just stick with nude drawings, even if it makes you uncomfortable, you are way to /beg/ to be worrying about clothes right now
Work on fundies, proportions and construction right now.
She's got a circle for a face, one hip is far up, the other is attached like a doll. Study from photos, such as if you want to draw women, draw from a nude photo of a woman you like the look of, draw from other drawings of nude women you like even.
Right now don't really bother with shading, not until you get proportions right and things looking natural or not disgusting. Then work on gray scale shading

[Anonymous No.4209530]

did I made progress?
roast me bros

[Anonymous No.4209533]

>>4209530
You're not ready to draw from imagination. Draw from reference until you learn to observe.

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209534]

>>4209530
Comgratulations, you simultaneously polished a turd and took none of my advice

[Anonymous No.4209552]

Gottefried shity copy.

[Anonymous No.4209559]

>>4209552
I'm the guy who draws shitty anime btw trying to see if fundies help.

[Anonymous No.4209561]

>>4209534
>>4209533
mfw

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209579]

>>4209552
You're definitely going to be going in a positive direction, as long as you aren't envisioning the drawing process of these in a 2d field.
>>4209559
Look, I've seen you post this fucking picture so many fucking times in the last 2 weeks. I've even seen anons tell you to stop posting it, yet you keep posting it fucking over and over in each thread. Nobody fucking cares if you're "guy who draws shitty anime", at most say "I'm guy who draws shitty anime btw" and DON'T POST the same image again. here's three basic tips. Don't post something that is bright color on white background, that shit hurts my eyes. Cut out all of the blank white space or fill it with more fucking drawings. And lastly, DON'T fucking post the same fucking image for 2 weeks straight, if you have to, link back to it, either via cross thread linking or a link to the fucking archive website

[Anonymous No.4209590]

>>4209579
Your literally the only person complaining about this but aight I'll stop lol.

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209591]

>>4209590
That's because people have moved on to ignoring you
That's why you aren't getting any critiques

[Anonymous No.4209592]

>>4209591
Fair enough.

[Anonymous No.4209595]

Abstract piece that is a different painting based on how you turn it.

[Anonymous No.4209596]

>>4209595
Forgot pic

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209598]

>>4209596
Because of the nature of abstract and modern art, there is nothing nobody could say about this without it being purely subjective
I don't know why you posted this here besides to get ignored or some weird way of advertising your blog or something.

[Anonymous No.4209600]

>>4209598
You are honestly doing gods work. I'm glad there's at least someone around here willing to critique and help new people. I myself would do it, but I am way too /beg/ still and my advice wouldn't be any good.

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209608]

>>4209600
Thanks anon, I got really frustrated from the repeated "post a piece that you spent longer than 5 minutes on" "no don't polish a turd" critique loops other critiquers were doing. Shouldn't matter if it's a 5 minute sketch or a 5 hour bobbies first materpiece, you can still give advice.
And all those absolute retards saying shit like "uhh ders just too much rong I can't critique huurrrr" if there was too much wrong, you'd be able to fucking easily give some kind of critique you fucking
holy shit

[Anonymous No.4209612]

Is this improvement?

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209625]

>>4209612
I'm not gonna lie, some of the stuff from 3 months ago does look more pleasing
It looks like you're now making things look more stiff
The, I assume, more current monster guy is completely tilting to the left, the top most guy with Dick out and girl showing ads are both very stiff, yet the construction sketches from 3 months ago seem more lively
The 3 month ago monster has some aesthetic to it.
Yet the newer stuff has better proportions
I recommend studying gesture/form

[Anonymous No.4209629]

>>4209522
Sorry, I should have posted the lineart only, didn't thought it would be so hard to get. (i did a quick color before coming back here though).

>Right now don't really bother with shading, not until you get proportions right and things looking natural or not disgusting. Then work on gray scale shading
Damn, I never got the grayscale, it is really the only way? Why no colors?

Btw, I'll work harder, I promise! You're of so much help and I'm taking your critique to fix this drawing. Thanks for your advise. (((((Even if you're a filthy tripfag))))

[Anonymous No.4209631]

>>4209612
theres 0 improvement desu, you just reredrew it with clear lines

[Anonymous No.4209634]

>>4209625
Got it. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4209636]

>>4209446

there's an edit button somewhere and in there there's a crop function. fiddle around. unless you're still using a really old phone it's impossible for it to not be there.

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209641]

>>4209629
I recommend grayscale because it's much easier for learning to feel the form, for learning to make things look 3d, you shouldn't also be worrying "does this or that color look good", you should only be worrying "does this make it look 3d"
But at this point, you shouldn't be worrying about either of those and more "does this shape look to be in the correct place" and "does this go together with this"

It's more about what you should be prioritizing in your practice, if your shapes don't look 3d, don't worry about color, if your shapes don't even make sense, you should be worrying about how to build those shapes, if you can't even build the shapes, go back to fundies and drawing basic shapes

[Anonymous No.4209647]

>>4209612

your old stuff is a little bit more dynamic. there's movement and weight. the new while you improve in proportion and line control it's stiff.

[Anonymous No.4209650]

2-minute quickposes, how badly did I do

[Anonymous No.4209656]

Who the fuck are this namefag losers flooding /ic/ for the past week?

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209663]

>>4209650
This is very nice, try to use less lines, you seem to be either making small lines in some places or going over lines multiple times, 1 or 2 extra go overs is alright, but try to keep that at a minimum. Occasionally in some areas you have some wonky proportions but other than that, you're in a good space
>>4209656
Alright, I guess I won't critique while also hating on all the shitty critiques then anon, if that's what you want.
And it's not like I'm using a code, you can also become on of the anonymous masses with a namefag hating on shitty critiques, if you'd like to, at least.

[Anonymous No.4209672]

>>4209650

your lines are repeated because you lack confidence and that lack of confidence is a result of not knowing where to put your marks. are you following lesson from a book or video?

I highly suggest that you learn from Michael Hampton video class.

here's a free first video of class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4353W2Xqm0

study that video and do the practice. I only suggest this because after so many books and videos Michael Hampton is the one that made it all clicks for me.

[Anonymous No.4209679]

>>4209663
>Alright, I guess I won't critique while also hating on all the shitty critiques then anon, if that's what you want.

du...dunning krueger

[Anonymous No.4209680]

>tfw compulsively browse on the internet for hours which is time that I could have spent on drawing
>tfw next day and I promised myself I won't waste any more time but I repeat it anyways
FUCK How do I form good habits?

[Anonymous No.4209682]

>>4209680
Get an URL-blocker app on your browser and make a long elaborate password you don't want to type up if you ever tempt yourself to end your surfing fast early.

[IamFUCKINGtiredofSHITcritiques No.4209683]

>>4209679
>my critiques are worse than the usual "this has so much wrong with it I can't critique this" "come back when you spend longer than 5 minutes on this" "no, you spent all this time polishing a turd" and "it's clear this is your first drawing, don't post this pure shit"
>>4209680
Different things work for different people, setting a reminder for every 30 or so minutes, blocking certain websites at certain times, or downloading a time tracking app are all options you could choose, personally I use a time tracking app. Nothing like starting a timer that tracks how long you've spent doing nothing but staring at 4chan only to check back later to see "10 hours spent on 4chan". Absolutely fucking spirit killing.

[Anonymous No.4209689]

>>4209596
Same Anon. My apologies for not seeing the fact that abstract is indeed hard to critique. Please do tell me your thoughts if you’re a fan of abstract, however.
> Perhaps critique this one instead?

[Anonymous No.4209695]

Started with Fun With A Pencil today. The way he draws cartoons is so offputting, it’s hard to tell if I’m doing this right. Are my faces supposed to look this shit?

[Anonymous No.4209716]

>>4209695
fun with pencil is basically the retard check of drawing. It basically teaches that drawing is just illusion of 3d shapes on represented on paper

[Anonymous No.4209718]

>>4209695
I like his cartoon style ;_; but >>4209716 is right. He's basically just trying to teach you to draw stuff using "form" and not flat. You don't have to copy his drawings, and you actually shouldn't, you should use them as a format to make your own. Imagine a 3D ball and put features on that.

[Anonymous No.4209750]

Nothing too special but I had fun doing the colours.

[Anonymous No.4209761]

thoughts/suggestions?

[Anonymous No.4209778]

>>4209689
Work on your edge control and the lighting/colour choice, because it looks a bit muddy in some places.

For example, on the vase (?), the edges aren't crisp and confident, and they kinda blend into the floor at some places.

[Anonymous No.4209782]

>>4209761
The nose isn't symmetrical, the eyebrows are a bit too close to each other, the lighting is a bit confusing because it seems the light's coming from the left due to the highlights but the right side of the face is paler. the pupil is a bit off center.

I'm assuming this isn't completed and heavily stylized so I can't really judge the way things are proportioned, though the mouth seems a bit large.

[Anonymous No.4209788]

>>4209689
Not that anon but I'll give it a go since you don't seem to be getting any.

Value pattern: Area of highest contrast is the light shining through the bench, rest of the picture is various darks. Is the bench supposed to be the focus of the picture? If so, why is it crammed off to the side? Idea: give the focus of the picture the most contrast, and place it using the "rule of thirds". I'm guessing the intended focus is the central planter, so you could try making that the lightest value, or surrounding its outline with the lightest value. Also, in a night scene, things tend to get darker and darker as you recede into the background. You haven't done this, so everything looks flat. Flat can be okay, but then you really need to design the 2d composition in an exciting way.

Composition: You're using a very centred, symmetrical composition, which can give a sense of stability or grandiosity, but can also be boring. Since you're just painting plants, this has become extra boring. Hard to fix here, but could try again with an asymmetrical composition, and with the central planter higher up in the picture. Less sky would be good too, because there's nothing going on there.

Colour: You're using colour in a naive symbolic fashion. You're thinking, "bushes=green, flowers=pink, stone=gray". This makes things look fake. What you need to do is either learn about colour casts, or learn about picking a palette. Basically, in a dark scene like this, light will give an overall colour to the entire scene, say yellow, and the individual objects will vary around that colour (a bit more green, a bit more pink,, etc). As things get further from the light, the saturation of the colour decreases. Idea: try glazing over the painting with a single colour and working from there. By picking a palette, I just mean picking a limited colour range and planning out your use of those colours instead of blue green gray red all over the place.

[Anonymous No.4209791]

>>4209782
ty anon

[Anonymous No.4209801]

>>4209788
contd...
Details: You need to plan out the shapes of your plants and objects and stuff in a drawing first, make sure they're reading properly, that they communicate clearly what they are. Right now, it;s mostly just a lot of paint blobs that don;t tell us anything. That's okay to some degree with foliage, but there should be some clearly defined shapes for us to understand. This drawing would also help with the concrete bowl part, so that you might properly draw the ellipse and capture the thickness of the object.

>>4209596
As the other anon said, hard to intuit your intentions here. The part in the middle looks like gooey meat, is quite distressing, and I like it. The rhythm is interesting to look at. The figure(?) to the right looks kind of laboured over and doesn't have the same freshness, but it's nice how it repeats the rhythm. The kitschy white moon on black background countreacts the distressing feeling you've created. It asks for too much attention visually, yet is clearly an unplanned afterthought, adding nothing.

[Anonymous No.4209811]

>>4209788
Small correction: Night scenes get darker as you recede, but the sky may still be brighter than distant background objects.

[Anonymous No.4209818]

I fixed the tits i think. Most of this was done from head without reference. Aside from hands what do i need to work on the most.

[Anonymous No.4209819]

>>4209818
shion is flat

[Anonymous No.4209823]

>>4209819
I know but i wanted to give her tidders

[Anonymous No.4209913]

>>4209441
Had a particularly hard time with this pose but I learned a lot working on it. I'm least happy with the feet/toes but feel free to leave feedback on anything else.

[Anonymous No.4209914]

>>4209761
The parts of the face are too large and it doesn't have any space left for the cheeks, the same with the eyepatch dude you drew last time. Spending too much time on the face itself and not drawing the head in advance can easily lead a person to get lost in the details and forget the big picture, which will lead to disproportional parts on the face.

Please spend more time on planning your entire drawing before going into the details.

[Anonymous No.4209917]

>>4209441

[Anonymous No.4209918]

>>4209441
Not sure how to finish this

[Anonymous No.4209920]

>>4209918
Like on original painting.

[Anonymous No.4209925]

>>4209818
What you’re doing is pretty difficult, I would definitely recommend trying this angle again with a reference if you haven’t before. As far as other things regarding drawing a body in perspective - think about how the major forms of the body overlap. Notice how around her midriff the picture suddenly flattens out? Her ribcage should be overlapping her abdomen and pelvis, but since that isn’t conveyed in the picture properly, you lose depth. Try to find some pictures of people standing while being viewed from above and see if you notice these things, I really can’t stress the benefits of studying from life enough, especially when attempting perspective heavy pictures like this.

[Anonymous No.4209940]

>>4209818
You deserve credit to take on this hard perspective angle. I do not want to repeat what >>4209925 said he is right.

I would add that the arms feel a bit noodle-y and the hands a bit flat I tried to show how to approach it, depending on the angle she is holding them the will cover the area and deform the boobs differently. Maybe this helps.

[Anonymous No.4209960]

>>4209485
construction is just plan of perspectiva and how tilt is head, proportion of featurs are actual keys of drawing face. if you have favorite artist. try analyze and copy it and practice from imagination too

[Anonymous No.4209968]

I want to trace KJG drawings

[Anonymous No.4209986]

>>4209441
First ever charcoal drawing, took me about 2-3 hours. How did I do?
(it doesn't look at all like the reference picture)

[Anonymous No.4209987]

What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.4209993]

>>4209987
The back say 20 y old man
The butt says 80 y old man, also chicken leg.

[Anonymous No.4210004]

>>4209993
Kek, I don't really know much about butts since this was a torso study, ended up adding the """""legs""""" and arms just for the fun of it

[Anonymous No.4210013]

Gave up on the face again. Drawing them at that angle is hard.

[Anonymous No.4210025]

>>4210013
FORM NIGGA DO YOU SPEAK IT?
really tho, it's flat

[Anonymous No.4210029]

>>4210013
based retard

[Anonymous No.4210032]

>>4210013
I think you should stop constructing for now and go back to the basics. Draw purely from observation.

[Anonymous No.4210039]

>>4210025
>FORM NIGGA DO YOU SPEAK IT?
I actually don't. What does that mean exactly?

>>4210029
My #1 fan ;0

[Anonymous No.4210136]

>>4210032
>stop constructing
Seems like the problem here is anon stopped constructing

>>4210039
You seem to be focused on the silhouette of shapes moreso than the form. This is the difference between drawing a circle and a sphere, or a square and a cube. Try this exercise - rather than trying to capture the shape of the body, instead think of the torso as two forms connected by a spine. Take that pose you were trying to capture and replace it with boxes. I tried it here myself but I can only really guess at the orientation of the boxes without the original pose, try to do this with that figure you’re trying to draw as well as any other references you might find. Also, try to go over the basic forms of the body again, especially the torso - i.e. the ribcage is an egg and the pelvis is a cylinder with a bit cut out (note that different artists have different ways to simplify the body, this is not a hard-set rule). Once you have the basic actual forms of the body down, try that box exercise again but with the aforementioned forms. Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.4210160]

>>4209446
Just take a screenshot

[Anonymous No.4210186]

how long should i be striving to practice a day

[Anonymous No.4210195]

>>4209450
+ gomad

[Anonymous No.4210213]

>>4209986
Definitely not a bad attempt. Can I see the reference picture? For now I suggest using a mirror or the selfie camera on your phone to flip the picture as you’re drawing and sketching it to help you catch any mistakes. I might be able to give you more help with the reference picture.

[Anonymous No.4210214]

>>4210186
also much as possible

[Anonymous No.4210219]

A quick sketch of my hand.
Crit me hard, please. I'm feeling I'm not progressing much, even if I do draw a hand or few almost every day for few months.
Yes, I'm underweight that's why it's weird, especially the thumb.

Also how could I improve the quality of photos of the stuff I draw? The lightest lines are almost invisible.

[Anonymous No.4210225]

>>4210219
how many mins have u draw for?

[Anonymous No.4210228]

>>4210225
You're sly, did you guess I did white crop the time stamps?
Around 15.

[Anonymous No.4210234]

>>4210213
good idea, I always forget to look back while drawing to catch mistakes.
Here's the reference.
Aside from likeness, what bothers me the most is that I missed the gesture

[Anonymous No.4210256]

>>4210234
If you feel up to it, here’s what I want you to try - take that picture, or any similar black and white picture you have, and simplify it. First, mentally divide the picture into a light, middle, and dark value. Figure out what areas should be light, mid, and dark and outline them. Then, draw the picture again, but this time, focus on only using these 3 values, and focus only on capturing the shapes these values make on the picture you’re making. It may look like garbage, but keep at it. I can’t upload pictures from where I am or I’d show you an example, but here’s a great video from Marco Bucci explaining the general idea of what I want you to practice seeing - https://youtu.be/-ZknWKTpc90

It may be about painting but a lot of the ideas work across art in general, especially charcoal.

[Anonymous No.4210257]

>>4209986
Too symbol drawn and lacks structure, get the loomis firing and study up the facial structure of the faces or the planes. (Asaro head)

[Anonymous No.4210264]

>>4210256
Other things to help you with this that I just remembered - don’t worry about the details. Try to do this with the picture zoomed out. Just get the general idea right before you worry about gradients or edges or such. Also >>4210257 is right, though I suspect this may be a symptom of focusing too much on the details you lose sight of the big picture. Definitely second looking into the asaro head and practicing more Loomis though.

[Anonymous No.4210307]

bit of a dumb question, how do I balance daily gesture sketching with figure drawing book study? like 1 hour of figure book study then an hour of gesture sketching?

[Anonymous No.4210375]

Was cleaning up lines on a simple sketch. Only realized now that i was drawing on the lower layer. Shit. Have a feeling this'll happen alot. Thankfully was just an excercise, but still. Kinda bummed out
https://imgur.com/a/QdGb7Mb

[Anonymous No.4210402]

I drew this once with reference (I sadly don't have the reference anymore). Was for a 3-min challenge. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.4210414]

>>4209761
>eyepatch to avoid having to get both eyes correct

I’ve done this. Don’t do it anymore bubba.

[Anonymous No.4210425]

Reinterpreted gfs quick sketch. On my second or third week of drawing, getting a ever so slightly better feel for head anatomy, ratios etc.

[Anonymous No.4210431]

How would I go about sketching the light pattern. Roast Me

[Anonymous No.4210435]

>>4209914
Ty anon

[Anonymous No.4210480]

Is there anything i didnt fuck up? kinda gave up after a certain point. should i put figure drawing aside and focus on more basic stuff before trying again?

[Anonymous No.4210500]

>>4210402
Now imagine how much more detail you could've put into it if you spent less time repeatedly going over your lines.
Stop caring if your speedy drawing has a slightly out of place line
Now fill a page with more 3 minute challenge drawings, or even 1 minute drawings, a whole page.

[Anonymous No.4210505]

>>4210480
Jesus man
Just spend like a month drawing from what you see and not what you think you see, maybe draw a bunch from reality or spend time actually measuring what you see?
You are just drawing what your mind thinks you are seeing, basically symbol drawing
The only thing you didn't fuck up was asking for help and actually putting pencil to paper

[Anonymous No.4210506]

been drawing for a couple of months What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.4210509]

>>4209818
Shion's breasts full of misfortune !

[Anonymous No.4210517]

>>4210505
>The only thing you didn't fuck up was asking for help and actually putting pencil to paper
This guy has the right idea. You might have fucked up, but at least you tried and that's pretty important. He's right though. >>4210480 You are clearly drawing what you think you see, just look at the references legs compared to what you drew, you drew the legs in a completely different position

[Anonymous No.4210526]

picked up drawing a few months back, don't really know what I'm doing most of the time desu

[Anonymous No.4210548]

>>4210505
>>4210517
Thx for the feedback. i appreciate hearing the truth so i can get on the right track now rather than wasting my time.

[Anonymous No.4210568]

So I watched ctrl+paint tutorial on rentering and first thing I did was to try to turn one of the sketches into lineless piece.

[Anonymous No.4210630]

Please tell me what to do to get better, I've been drawing for quite some time now and I don't know exactly where I should start learning from. Did this with a reference and it's supposed to be Jill Valentine. I'm particularly unhappy with the eyes, though it's still a work in progress and I didn't fix the lineart yet. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.4210632]

>>4210630
Here's the reference I'm using

[Anonymous No.4210706]

>>4209441
I pretty much just started and I think I should stop
>I need therapy

[Anonymous No.4210711]

don't even know what I'm doing anymore

[Anonymous No.4210729]

>>4210500
Thanks for the feedback. I know, it gives me a feel of security, but I know I should stop worrying about that. Thanks for the advice, Anon.

[Anonymous No.4210749]

>>4210307

personally I feel it's better to count it rather than time it. 100 30seconds gesture with 30 to 40 2 minutes gestures. Then advance studies on construction or anatomy. Another 100 drawing recalling what I learn and 50 or so drawing copying plates from books.

[Anonymous No.4210752]

>>4210431

white pencil or darken the entire drawing with the side of your pencil and use an eraser on the light part. make sure to shade dark and mid tone appropriately instead of darkening everything. build up your tones bit by bit.

[Anonymous No.4210758]

>>4210711
I don't get it Anons... I truly don't get it.
I can color okay with color pencils and paint, but computer?
This hard round thing is driving me nuts
NGMI

[Anonymous No.4210774]

Old perspective drawing because i like drawing buildings when I’m bored

[Anonymous No.4210777]

[Anonymous No.4210821]

>>4210630
the eyes highlights are in opposite directions

[Anonymous No.4210837]

>>4210774
this is a decent exercise but now you must go one further and add another vanishing point at either the top or bottom of the page and learn 3 point perspective and do a quick exercise

really puts together the scale of buildings, especially tall ones

[Anonymous No.4210868]

>>4210821
Oh I see, thanks!

[Anonymous No.4210882]

>>4210758
this is ok, keep going
just look up some blending techniques

[Anonymous No.4210886]

>>4209596
I hate it because it's abstract and therefore bad but there's something in it that I like. It's almost like it invites me to chew on it and run my fingers down a spine beneath a crescent moon.

Fuck abstract.

[Anonymous No.4210890]

>>4209918
Finish the bridge and leave it alone until you figure out if there's anything else you want to add to it. Looks good otherwise.

[Anonymous No.4210902]

Ok i took someones advice and am studying anatomy.
Are you happy
will i make it
LOVE ME ANON

[Anonymous No.4210912]

>>4210902
That's a good attitude, at least

[Anonymous No.4210915]

What do I do with the letters ? I want them to be like hot glowing metal but I dont know how

[Anonymous No.4210926]

>>4210711
Here comes the humblebragger, pretending he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Dude we get it, you’re really good, pretending to be bad at your skill level is patronizing desu.

[Anonymous No.4210927]

>>4210777
I like it, reminds me of the original Street Fighter III art style.

[Anonymous No.4210940]

>>4210927
That's true, SF3 had the coolest artstyle

[Anonymous No.4210947]

>>4210480
Bruh

[Anonymous No.4210948]

>>4210926

it is bad though... you're just think it's good because your eyes is not trained. you have normie eyes so to speak.

[Anonymous No.4210969]

>>4210948
How is it bad? Give a detailed analysis.

[Anonymous No.4211004]

uwu

[Anonymous No.4211018]

>>4210969

construction is fucked, anatomy is fucked. it's a jewish man with boobs. Nothing about it is appealing.

overall trash tier. it belongs in wikihow. You have shit taste anon. Work on that.

[Anonymous No.4211030]

Hello, I drew the same pic twice. I've been practicing skulls and portraits but it seems like I draw slightly lopsided even when using lines and points. Any tips on wrapping and depth? I'm still doing studies but I want to make every second I draw count since I don't have a lot of free time. ~1-2hrs a day. :(
I wasn't trying to make it look exactly like the ref. And I'm still flexing stylization. Is it obvious I'm still struggling with form? Thanks in advance for your feedback.

[Anonymous No.4211039]

>>4211018
Post your art then.

[Anonymous No.4211040]

>>4211018
Peak sour grapes, gentlemen.

[Anonymous No.4211071]

>>4210749
thanks, i didn't really think of counting it since i mostly do gesture sketches from quickposes but i'll try going for those lengths.

[Anonymous No.4211089]

just critic me

[Anonymous No.4211115]

first attempt at crosshatching

[Anonymous No.4211120]

>>4211115
Looks like it

[Anonymous No.4211126]

Is this cute?

It looks western?

[Anonymous No.4211129]

>>4210777
I like your style, but her pose is very stiff, her hair lacks in flow, and her skirt looks off. I suggest looking at more references for skirts and implementing more hair strands that give the hair more life. Oh, and studying gesture could help. Otherwise, great work anon! You're going on the right path.

[Anonymous No.4211134]

>>4211115
You did a good job at conveying form, but make your lines more consistent next time. Try making them go in the same direction and don't rush it! You need straight lines in order to give a clean look.

>>4211126
Please resize your image. Your style looks anime to me, but you should probably clean up your lines. Her face is hard to make out.

[Anonymous No.4211143]

>>4209441
looking for critique!

[Anonymous No.4211192]

>>4210758
The hard round isn't supposed to look good in and of itself. It's so you can focus on shape design.

[Anonymous No.4211285]

How NGMI am I?

[Anonymous No.4211286]

>>4211143
how did you reference that ? 3d or pictures ?
It's pretty good, work on brushwork and shape definition now

[Anonymous No.4211289]

>>4211018
I see what you call "jewish men with boobs" everyday around me, not every woman is looking like your anime waifu

[Anonymous No.4211291]

>>4211286
thanks, i appreciate the input!

its referenced based on this, obviously not one to one though

[Anonymous No.4211315]

I have been studying cats this week
My photo studies are improving, I think (´ω`)

[Anonymous No.4211498]

>>4210136
Tried it your way.

How does it look?

[Anonymous No.4211506]

>>4211498
Terrible. Your proportions are bad. And don't even dare to ask what the issue is, look at the reference. If you still don't know what's wrong then practice your observation skills and forget about constructing for now.

[Anonymous No.4211507]

How am I doing on these orcs?
I drew them when I didn't feel l8ke drawing and I feel like it shows
Used reference but most of it was filled with my imagination

[Anonymous No.4211554]

I WANT TO COOM for pregnant women!!

[Anonymous No.4211566]

>>4211498
Just separately from the more important advice others have given. Your shoulders are consistently way to wide. For a idealized female figure 2.5 or 3 headswidth's wide on the shoulders is typical.

[Anonymous No.4211578]

>>4211285
For fucks sake draw the fifth finger what is wrongwith you

[Anonymous No.4211584]

>>4211192
horlyy sheeiiit.. how did you do that...

[Anonymous No.4211588]

>>4211018
I know the hands and legs look weird. Can you red line it for me, Anon? for the construction and stuff?

[Anonymous No.4211638]

>>4210264
I see, thank you very much, I'll try that out.
One thing I noticed in some tutorials is that their charcoal dissolves(?) very easily in the paper while mine barely does and takes a lot of effort, what is the optimal paper/charcoal type?

[Anonymous No.4211684]

/beg/ latex

[Anonymous No.4211691]

>>4211588
He's just shitposting. Ignore him. If he was actually knowledgeable he would have something worth saying.

[Anonymous No.4211767]

>>4211498
I agree with the other anons.
What sticks out to me is the tiny head, lack of neck anatomy, wide shoulders, fucked collar bones, fucked spine, the absolute lack of a pelvis, and no sense of weight or groundedness due to the lack of perspective on the feet. Also your drawings always look flat because there is absolutely no shading. Shadows are the most important way of conveying form.

Please, for the love of god, study more photo reference and anatomy. Just because you are using construction doesn't mean you are exempt from using reference.

[Anonymous No.4211769]

[Anonymous No.4211778]

>>4211769
cute!
upper lip is little fucked up tho

did you use reference?

[Anonymous No.4211780]

>>4211778
>>4211606

[Anonymous No.4211782]

Trying to strengthen my mind's eye, so I drew these solely from imagination and made it a point to use no reference.

I did these yesterday, and they are the best drawings I've done from imagination so far. but I know they aren't perfect obviously so I appreciate any advice/criticism.

[Anonymous No.4211784]

>>4211780
It's a nice drawing even though it doesn't look like the ref at all. Did you try to stylize?

[Anonymous No.4211787]

>>4211784
yeah
i don't try to bother with copying photos of faces, i know i would spend hours on it and i would learn nothing and it would look fucky
i do study bodies more accurately

[Anonymous No.4211828]

>>4211782
>>4211498
>>4209818
>>4209761
>>4209530
>>4209501
>>4209485

All these fucking begs not using reference is legitimately pissing me off.

You lack the visual library to draw solely from imagination. Feel free to draw from imagination for your own pleasure, but if you are going to look for serious critique, don't come shitting up this place without using reference first. Most of the mistakes you make can easily be seen and fixed once you compare your drawing to an actual human being. Professionals use reference all the time and you're only fucking yourself over by refusing to use reference. Secondly FUNDAMENTALS. If you only use reference without using construction, anatomy, and gesture, you are not learning anything. Don't copy the reference 100% unless it is literally your first month of drawing holy shit

>mind's eye
I have never heard such bullshit before, jesus christ
Just look at reference after you draw from imagination you dumb cunt.

I don't think you all understand how fucking livid I am right now from your incompetence and refusal to do what it actually takes to git gud.

[Anonymous No.4211842]

>>4211828
pyw from imagination

[Anonymous No.4211853]

>>4210526
Draw more from reference

[Anonymous No.4211865]

>>4211842
Not OP but it only stands to reason that you can't draw anything from imagination correctly without first learning what it actually looks like?

[Anonymous No.4211874]

>>4211842
My point is that drawing from imagination doesn't fucking matter you actual retard

Sure you can pat yourself on the back for being able to draw from imagination, but everyone out there actually making money uses reference for practically every drawing, or they are able to draw from imagination because they have looked at so much goddamn reference that it is ingrained in their mind. They have looked at more reference in the past year than you have in your entire life, so yeah, they would be able to draw convincingly from imagination.
In the end, the viewer doesn't know you used reference, nor do they care. Using reference literally only serves for your benefit with absolutely no downsides.

Nothing you draw is original, it always comes from somewhere. If you want to draw what's in your mind well, it would greatly benefit you going online and finding an actual photo of what you're trying to draw.

all these fucking autists i swear

[Anonymous No.4211885]

>tfw you are not a subhuman with low iq and you can draw from imagination
>tfw you dont have to cope to pretend that using references as a clutch is a good thing


who else knows this feeling

[Anonymous No.4211892]

>>4211874
Some niggas can accurately draw things they saw 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.4211895]

>>4211892
That's an entirely different breed of autist then the kind that post's on /ic/ however.

[Anonymous No.4211904]

>>4211874
I fully agree with this. People here love to meme up imagination but at the very least you need to have drawn your subject from reference countless times before you'll be able to make something great from imagination.
People have some kind of misguided pride about drawing from their imagination even at /beg/ level and it really doesn't serve any long term goal.

[Anonymous No.4211905]

>>4211874
The only autist here is you. We dont care though, you can go on with your pinterest ref studies while the rest of us keeps learning how to design and invent. Idiots like you Always scream "EVERYONE USES REFERENCE RETARDS" while nobody literally nobody is questioning that. Everybody needs refs from time to time we know that. What is the real issue here is being able to design something which ngmis like you will never be able to do and will realize it when youre 30 years old like stan prokopenko, and your whole portfolio will be a strange looking collection of portraits and human figures that dont have anything in common. You will realize you fucked up badly because the only thing you ever did was painting 1:1 photo copies while others were patiently scribbling shit from imagination and actually managed to develop style and ideas that someone is willing to pay for. Saying shit like "drawing from imagination doesnt fucking matter" is the absolute undeniable proof that you're nowhere close getting into any art related industry. good luck fag because theres no hope for your kind, youre truly on the bottom of the hierarchy here

[Anonymous No.4211907]

>>4211905
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.4211911]

>>4211885
You're either a shitty artist, or you're deluding yourself.

It is literally impossible to draw without reference. If you've ever seen a real human being, you've already seen reference for human beings. The point of using photo reference is to bridge the gaps in your knowledge. Some people are better at internalizing reference than others, so the amount of reference you need to look at can differ.

Not using reference is the biggest noob trap there is. You're just hurting the progress of the people in this thread by making them feel bad for relying on reference when most successful artists from all points in history have used reference. You literally couldn't be a shittier human being right now.

[Anonymous No.4211916]

>he was baiting

dont reply to him anymore guise

[Anonymous No.4211918]

>>4211911
>It is literally impossible to draw without reference.
this must be trolling, theres no other way. we've reached new level of disconnection with the industry here, congrats ic

[Anonymous No.4211922]

>>4211918
I mean I get what he's saying. Can any of you here draw my buddy pete? Unlikely because you've never met pete and even if you did odds are you would need a little refresher before attempting a portrait of him. Obviously anyone of any skill level can attempt to draw a human being from imagination but unless you have really studied the human figure it's going to have flaws and the only way to really train yourself to remove these flaws is to study from reference.

[Anonymous No.4211926]

If you can't create and see an entire new world with your imagination, then your brain is malfunctioning. Ngmi.

[Anonymous No.4211931]

>>4211922
yea but when people mean using reference dont mean a imaginary library but something you are basing your drawing that isnt something you create but rather based on

[Anonymous No.4211936]

>>4211905
Have you been listening to my posts? I said copying a reference 1:1 won't get you anywhere, you also need to practice your fundamentals. Practically most people in this thread are not at a point where they can accurately draw what's in their imagination. Any thing you can image will have something in the real world you can use for reference.
You want to draw an creature that doesn't exist? You still reference real animals, like a horse and a human for a centaur, or a lion and an eagle for a griffin. Using reference doesn't mean "a study" per se, you can still use reference in your actual artistic endeavors. Like when you're drawing your cool ass griffin and you think to yourself, "Shit I don't know how to draw feathers," and then go look up a picture of a feather. That's reference. I don't think you understand what reference actually is and what it's used for.

And yes, people are questioning using reference. In fact, some of them are bragging about it, and their art is awful.

I stand by my point "drawing from imagination doesn't fucking matter" but I guess it is unclear what I meant. I don't mean "don't use your imagination to make a new character, design, environment, etc", what I mean is don't do that without also using reference to assist you while you are drawing what's in your head.

[Anonymous No.4211940]

i swear to god im losing neurons

[Anonymous No.4211943]

>>4211926
If you can't actually fucking draw what's in the new world you created in your imagination, you couldn't be more ngmi

We're in fucking beg. No one here has the technical skills to draw what's in their imagination.

[Anonymous No.4211946]

>>4211931
That's the most efficient way to build up your imaginary library though right? I fully agree on the merits of drawing from imagination both on a practical and a personal satisfactory level but I also feel like half of the people here would do well to just focus entirely on drawing from reference for a few months.

[Anonymous No.4211959]

>>4211578
I never learned anatomy.
Sounds like I’m very NGMI.

[Anonymous No.4211973]

i feel that somethings off around the torso
anyone help me ?

[Anonymous No.4212004]

[Anonymous No.4212020]

>>4211828
k

[Anonymous No.4212056]

>>4212004
Get out

[Anonymous No.4212076]

>>4211973
Shoulder implies he's hunching over but the rest of the torso does not. Look at reference.

[Anonymous No.4212077]

Hi /beg/. Very beg here just wanting to do a project just as a "this is where I am now" piece. Can anyone offer some feedback on ways I can improve the layout? Not sure where I should put the horizon and I'm thinking of just putting some trees/leaves in the foreground in the lower left. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.4212154]

[Anonymous No.4212159]

>>4211498
Guy who made the original suggestion here - the other anons raise a good point, did you use a reference? If so, I’d like to see it. I might be able to give you better advice after that.

[Anonymous No.4212161]

>>4212077
Hi anon, I would suggest you look into composition watch Blender Guru's "Understanding Composition" video if you haven't yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8i7OKbWmRM
Good luck!

[Anonymous No.4212164]

>>4212154
Ah, shit. I just noticed I messed up the eyes badly but whatever.

[Anonymous No.4212175]

>>4212154

you're not /beg/ anon... are you showing off? *sniff

[Anonymous No.4212179]

>>4212175
There are better beginners than me in this thread. I'll know when I become intermediate. There's a long way to go.

[Anonymous No.4212187]

>>4212056
>>4212175
It's a pretty wide spectrum in beg but it's not like there is any other place to go.

[Anonymous No.4212192]

>>4212187
>/intermediate/ threads literally popped into existence a few weeks ago
Get out of here self pitier

[Anonymous No.4212194]

>>4212192
Just because you're terrible doesn't mean I'm not bad.

[Anonymous No.4212201]

>>4212192
The standards of /INT/ are quite a bit higher.
95% of the time when somebody here gets told to get out they're far below the baseline for /INT/.

[Anonymous No.4212235]

>>4212159

[Anonymous No.4212277]

i tried le animu meme um i think there is something wrong with my attempt

critic?

[Anonymous No.4212279]

>>4212277
what's up with the cigarettes?

[Anonymous No.4212281]

>>4212279
wat ya mean?

[Anonymous No.4212283]

>>4212277
is this bait?

[Anonymous No.4212284]

>>4212281
I think hes asking why you put cigs all over the picture.

[Anonymous No.4212285]

>>4212283
>hur dur

[Anonymous No.4212288]

guess it was what i felt like adding to the composition

[Anonymous No.4212289]

I’d like detailed, constructive criticism before I shade. Thanks, Anon

[Anonymous No.4212294]

>>4211769
QT3.14!!!

[Anonymous No.4212296]

>>4212289
>>4212277
>>4210706
>>4209761
>>4209629
>>4209501

[Anonymous No.4212300]

>>4212296
p
y
w

[Anonymous No.4212301]

>>4212300
here :) >>4210777

[Anonymous No.4212303]

>>4212283
why i mean i reckon it belongs here and that it was a fail

[Anonymous No.4212305]

>>4212289
This is too flawed in all aspects for critique to be useful. Read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.4212306]

>>4212301
>those fists
looks equally ugu

[Anonymous No.4212328]

>>4212201

what's in between /beg/ and /INT/?

[Anonymous No.4212331]

>>4212328
Proko.

[Anonymous No.4212332]

>>4210886
What don’t you like about abstract.
I of course understand the lack of mastery inherent in abstract, as this painting only took me an hour to do, but it’s a subconscious thing. I love abstract because when you look at something that has a minimal basis in reality, your mind starts making things appear.

[Anonymous No.4212333]

>>4212328
More /beg/. Why are you so anal about a couple of higher begs anyway?

[Anonymous No.4212334]

>>4212328
the endless void, where one shall remain in eternal perdition.

[Anonymous No.4212394]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4212396]

>>4212394
learn to take photos. terrible lighting.

[Anonymous No.4212409]

>>4212328
OP here. I mean /int/ is basically people who are just shy of operating on a professional level and a bunch of people who are just about average in /beg/ who are clueless about their actual skill level. For all intents and purposes most people could spend a few years in /beg/

[Anonymous No.4212447]

>>4212306
No it doesn't

[Anonymous No.4212506]

fucked up at the ref face

[Anonymous No.4212610]

So if I have a shit artwork, should I quit working on it and make anew one or should I finish it?

[Anonymous No.4212618]

>>4212610
If it's for fun then do whatever the hell you want, if you're working on something specific like perspective then at least work on it until you've applied as much perspective knowledge as you can into that drawing.

[Anonymous No.4212631]

I stopped drawing for a few years and I think my observation skills when to shit.

[Anonymous No.4212640]

im having a hard time deriving a pleasing composition from this. should i make it more vertical and try to fill the corners with background stuff our tighten it vertically and go with a landscape composition? the perspective and arrangement of the subjects matches what i was going for pretty spot on actually.

[Anonymous No.4212651]

>>4209441
Why did proko draw super flat symbols in that dog drawing? Even if you want to say he can't draw from imagination or whatever it doesn't make sense. He knows that's retarded.

[Nosebro No.4212653]

>>4212154
you can leave beg

[Anonymous No.4212683]

the people at the porn thread told me to post here, I am asking for help to fix some drawings.

[Anonymous No.4212689]

>>4212683

[Anonymous No.4212692]

>>4212689

[Anonymous No.4212734]

>>4212683
I'm still a beginner, but these are really decent. I think you mimic the style really accurately and at least with this first one, the background is fucking super nice. I think it's difficult to judge highly stylized "cartoonish" works on a scale similar to what you would for like a realistic figure drawing, which is why "critiquing" stuff like this is difficult.

[Anonymous No.4212755]

So, before anything, 4chan has blocked me from posting images for whatever reason. So imgur it is.
Anyways. Thoughts on this? Like, less than a week ago i could barely draw a stick figure. Personally think it's quite good progress for such a short time, but what do i know. Think i'll focus more on smaller details from now, like, eyes. Hands. Definitely not saying i've got anatomy down but feeling pretty confident in being able to draw a human figure.
https://imgur.com/a/W2AxUfl
https://imgur.com/a/ibEjbtG

[Anonymous No.4212760]

>>4212755
>4chan has blocked me from posting images
>Posts link to another site
Either a glownigger or somebody desperate for more views. Either way fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4212762]

>>4212760
>Uploading files from your IP range has been blocked due to abuse. [More Info]
4chan Pass users can bypass this block. [Learn More]

[Anonymous No.4212786]

>>4212755
While I admire your confidence, you are certainly not able to draw a human figure well.

You need to start with the basic fundamentals like form, perspective, and gesture.

Anatomy is the last fundamental you will learn because it is the most complex and requires memorization, while you can "feel out" the other ones. I wouldn't worry too much about anatomy until you have form and gesture down.

At this point you should do studies and practice breaking the human body down into its basic forms.

If you haven't read the sticky yet, please do. It will help you a lot.

[Anonymous No.4212787]

>>4212683
>>4212689
>>4212692
I think you should give up on art

[Anonymous No.4212795]

How do you guys go about looking for figure references? Like im having trouble trying to search for the pose i want using words in a search engine. Should i just use a 3d tool like designdoll? Or is that going negatively affect my understanding too much.

[Anonymous No.4212798]

>>4212651
it's scary to think that he can't extrapolate when he has that much knowledge committed to memory

[Anonymous No.4212808]

>>4212787
I already gave up, this drawings are quite old, I just want them edited and fixed.

[Anonymous No.4212814]

>>4212795
If you can't find a pose online, just take a picture of yourself or someone you know doing the pose.
I would avoid using a 3d tool because you would only be able to create a natural pose if you already had good knowledge on poses, which would kind of defeat the purpose of using a 3d model for reference.

[Anonymous No.4212818]

>>4212814
I mean like i have pic of the pose i want but not like the camera angle if that makes sense, if i wanted to try perspective

[Anonymous No.4212823]

>>4212818
I mean if you think you can accurately recreate the pose in a 3d tool, go ahead.
Otherwise I can only recommend grabbing a friend to help you out.

[Anonymous No.4212844]

>>4212798
All the theory and knowledge in the world doesn't matter without practice, and he clearly never draws without reference.
Memorizing a book about basketball isn't going to help one dunk. I don't know why anyone would think differently for drawing, much less Proko.

[Anonymous No.4212869]

Drawing a desk for a little comic. It's pretty barren/generic box because I was pretty focused on doing it in perspective. I know there's not a lot to judge but what do you guys think? Should I move on to finishing this one up? The items are a generic cup with pens, a laptop and a stuffed animal. I was going to draw a hand coming in from off screen doing a peace sign, but I'm horrible at hands and it'd block a lot of the shot.

[Anonymous No.4212937]

Is tumblr still a good place to upload art on? I just want somewhere to dump my daily sketches, or maybe I should join dad...

[Anonymous No.4212944]

>>4211004

[Anonymous No.4212955]

>>4212937
You should definitely join dad
As for Tumblr, I find that the format of Tumblr is very nice for just maintaining a blog and such, but I don't know if it's easy to build a following, a lot of the artists I follow get a few hundred likes/notes per post, and then a handful get 1k+

[Anonymous No.4213035]

>>4212795
Honestly I wouldn't worry about making any exact specific pose at this point and rather just grind out poses in bulk.

[Anonymous No.4213043]

>>4211089
for a second I thought i was looking at 2 sets of really fucked up eyes

the faces are kinda nice, keep going

[Anonymous No.4213045]

>>4211126
Godawful line quality

[Anonymous No.4213047]

can I draw anime/cartoon shit just by studying fun with a pencil and gesture drawing?

[Anonymous No.4213060]

[Anonymous No.4213067]

>>4213047
it's good book to understand basic concept of how to sketch and drawing for begginer

[Anonymous No.4213069]

femboy practice
didn't draw hands because I was more focused on the muscles and etc
also yes my drawings often are chicken scratch and I try to overcome it by removing the stuff by hand and redoing it with smooth lines

[Anonymous No.4213083]

>>4213047
>just by
No. Study anime/cartoons by themselves. Books are just there to help you grasp the basic concepts.

[Anonymous No.4213091]

>>4213069
You must fix all of proportion. try do some figure drawing with photo

[Anonymous No.4213097]

>>4212683
The fuck? Why are you making Sítio porn art you fucked up coom brain idiot?

[Anonymous No.4213118]

Sorry for the tiny head again. I was late to notice it.

[Anonymous No.4213128]

>>4213118
Bad proportions, as always. Do you do only one of these a day? You'll never progress at this rate.

[Anonymous No.4213146]

>>4213118
that rib cage is enormous

[Anonymous No.4213148]

>>4213128
I like to think I am progressing. This was the first thing I posted on these threads before an anon told me to read a book in the /book/ thread which helped.

And if you think I'm not progressing, whatever, that's fine. I told myself I'd draw everyday so fuck it. Drawing a figure, posting it here and having it get shat on has become a daily routine for me at this point.

I don't think I'll be able to sleep anymore without that one anon calling me a based retard.

[Anonymous No.4213151]

>>4213118
>>4213148
you are very retarded

but i give you one more chance
draw a few boxes from different perspectives

[Anonymous No.4213163]

>>4213151
fuck you I give you triangles

[Anonymous No.4213168]

>>4213163
well there you go
you don't understand 3d forms and perspective
ive told you this like 3 times

[Anonymous No.4213172]

>>4213168
What to do to fix this

[Anonymous No.4213173]

>>4213172
i dont know i never had a problem with that
try this drawabox thing

[Anonymous No.4213179]

>>4213163
read perspective made easy.

[Anonymous No.4213206]

How bad are these muscles?

[Anonymous No.4213217]

>>4213206
Bad, but finish it first.

[Anonymous No.4213349]

I feel like my grasp of the figure's perspective always kinda breaks down halfway through the drawing. Any tips on getting better about that?

[Anonymous No.4213353]

>>4213349
another example of mine

[Anonymous No.4213510]

Hi /beg/.Practicing lighting, color, and hatching for my dino picture. Where can I improve here?

[Anonymous No.4213530]

How can I improve this pose? I couldn't find a reference for what I want. I want the guy to look like he was backing up afraid and tripped on something and still backing up but his head and shoulders should be totally off the ground. That scene right before the monster eats him or whatever.

[Anonymous No.4213536]

why is it that some days i cant do good linework no matter what and some days i can get natural smooth lines without trying too hard

[Anonymous No.4213553]

>>4209441
Does drawing from life mean just copy something you see? How is that supposed to help me draw big tit anime girls?

[Anonymous No.4213563]

>post beginniner image in beginner thread
>response is "wow garbage LOL go read x philosopher twice until you fully grasp how aesthetics work then come back"

[Anonymous No.4213571]

>>4210837
cheers, I’ll do this next time

[Anonymous No.4213577]

>post on beginniger thread
>post shit with no effort whatsoever
>whaaaaa why am i being told im shit

[Anonymous No.4213590]

>>4213536
Probably muscle memory(should be drawing everyday). And or not warming up with quick circles and lines

[Anonymous No.4213593]

>>4213563
>post beginner image in beginner thread
>be told to study book X by author Y
>study book and do exercises and improve.
I dont see the problem with this. If someone sees your perspective is fucked and offers you a resource on perspective you should be thankful. What would you prefer? Do you want them to just draw your picture better and give it to you for you to credit? I'm /beg/ and I havent gone to art school and I havent read the books and I haven't done the work. But I imagine theres nothing worse than having some whiny shit come in and say, "I havent done the work, what should I do to be as good as a pro?" And then get ass blasted when you tell them they just need to do the fucking work.

[Anonymous No.4213599]

>>4213577
Keep wojak posting to the retard boards, newfag

[Darren No.4213607]

>>4213563
What's your image?

[Anonymous No.4213619]

after gesture drawing for an hour do I move onto faces or what, what's the best next step. I just did the line of action class

[Anonymous No.4213690]

>>4213563
Fucking this. I’m goddamn tired of being told to “read the sticky” because someone’s too fucking lazy to actually give me constructive criticism

[Anonymous No.4213693]

>>4213690
Where's your artwork? I'll give you some critique.

[Anonymous No.4213698]

>>4213693
Here

[Anonymous No.4213706]

>>4213698
read the fucking sticky faggot

[Anonymous No.4213763]

>>4213163
Do it with boxes, use vanishing points and perspective lines, freehand it when you get better

[Anonymous No.4213777]

>>4212235
Keep on practicing, take some time to learn the exact anatomy of the body. Also, when you lay in your initial sketch, zoom out and just try to get the proportions down, don’t worry about the little details. Once that’s done you can work on the details.

[Anonymous No.4213780]

out of curiosity i tried applying my style on a dogs face
does this look appealing

[Anonymous No.4213782]

>>4213780
Yeah, you should become a furry artist instead.

[Anonymous No.4213801]

>>4213619
What course are you following? What are your short term goals in art right now? When you're self taught you have to set your own goals as well, once you have something of an idea, we can help you with what the next step is. Also post work, I don't care if it's shit I just want some idea of where you're at.

[Anonymous No.4213807]

>>4209441
Just started, personally I think my biggest problem is getting the relative size of everything good, but is there anything else I should work on before progressing?

[Anonymous No.4213845]

Low effort nime faces.

>>4213349
Construct the figure with solid blocks.

>>4213807
You got it. Just move on.

>>4213530
Leave one leg grounded and spread the arms forward. Work on the foreshortening.

>>4213780
The eyes are good but the snout doesn't look very appealing.

[Anonymous No.4213885]

new >>4213884

[Anonymous No.4213886]

>>4213845
>>4212154
I'm assuming these are the same artist. You seem to be somewhere above /beg/ and not quite /int/ but fuck making another thread and I don't really care where you post. What I'd suggest is brush up on hands, feet, arms, basically the extremities and limbs. Your torso is solid which is a good base but as you move out to the extremities, they don't look bad but you lose the anatomical detail you put in the torso. I think it's also a good idea to study heads from life, knowing the structure of a face can help you create more appealing and unique stylizations that you might not have come up with otherwise. You don't have to be able to draw a realistic face from memory or anything (though it never hurts) just knowing the general anatomy is fine.

>>4213593
While there is stuff here that is so bad it's difficult to give any feedback beyond loomis, there is also incredibly useless advice being given on this thread

[Anonymous No.4213891]

>>4213886
Thanks for the detailed advice. Will do. I used to struggle a lot with torsos (and still do a bit) so I was working on them but I've been neglecting other parts. Legs are my bane.

[Anonymous No.4213895]

Peepeepoopoo

[Anonymous No.4213898]

>>4213895
I feel like the bottom right is really off. Like the jaw need to be more receded.

[Anonymous No.4214551]

Everyone itt should read charles bargue before trying to do anything

At least with charles you gain some respect for nature/reference and treat it as an understanding more than an ability that you are trying to adquire to do "things" on your way.

Tl;dr of charles bargue

NEVER FUCKING ADD YOUR FUCKING FEELINGS TO THE DRAWING/PAINTING

And that also means your selfcentric and egoistic "techniques" such as drawing from imagination

[Anonymous No.4214554]

Fredback on this lineart so far before I go forward with it?

[Anonymous No.4214575]

>>4214554
I think I need to update the hole on the backend of the scythe and add some seamlines to thr clothes, just looking at it myself

[Anonymous No.4214591]

>>4213349
gesture is good, anatomy is awful

[Anonymous No.4214598]

>>4213895
good effort, anon. It looks like you're getting a good grasp on forms and perspective. However, your rendering and values could use some work. Keep at it!

[Anonymous No.4215129]

>>4211315
I always wonder what people are thinking when they draw animal balls. If you don't mind could you tell me what was going through you mind when you drew tiger balls?

Artistically I feel like your grasp of the anatomy of the tiger's torso is top notch, but your perspective is off.

[Anonymous No.4216015]

New to drawing on the iPad. Being practicing what do you think?