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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4199769

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

thoughtful critique betters both parties. help each other and try not to get assblasted.

>> No.4205471
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same as before: second arm, some hands to explain what is happening and flat color

>> No.4205482

post figure references and i will try to draw one

>> No.4205483
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criticism pls
i feel like i added too much detail to hand given how cartonish the rest of the drawing is and the hand itself looks kinda flat from the wrist i think

>> No.4205486
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Week 2 of Steve books and videos, didnt do much today but here is some

>> No.4205489
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>>4205486
I still do chicken scratches a lot defnitly need to work on that, also proportions still off. Gotta work harder !

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Need to learn muscles so that this doesn't look like shit

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>>4205482

>> No.4205524

>>4205512
is taht doubles guy?

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>>4205483
post ref

>> No.4205530

>>4205524
Who?

>> No.4205533
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4205533

So I drew a demon girl this time. Gonna start that ctrl+paint guide tommorow and color it later

Pose and anatomy are memory only so how is it? Also I don't know how to get into figure drawing, I tried but I almost always can do decent poses from memory but I'm pretty slow. How should I start figure and gesture drawing? Is there some technique to learn or simply grind?

>> No.4205536

idk where to even start. i am taking my first steps into drawing and i did that upside down exercise thing i the sticky and it fucking sucked ass. should I keep doing that until i get better?

>> No.4205543

>>4205536
no just go draw a box and then you are good to draw anything

>> No.4205545

>>4205527
why

>> No.4205550

>>4205514
too late i chose one for myself

>> No.4205551

>>4205447
Should I start with Drawabox or Proko?

>> No.4205552

>>4205545
To see how it differs from the ref and therefore see how to give advice

>> No.4205567
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>>4205447
Anons, don't give up! I've been coming to /ic/ for about a year and a half now and it helped me improve a lot. I still consider myself a /beg/ but improvement has been made

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>>4205567
For reference, before I started studying loomis.
Also a question: Is it possible to sell my drawings if they're only black and white? Maybe a little gray shading here and there? Currently I don't have the means to color them (and make them look presentable)

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How do i make the ass look better

>> No.4205592

>>4205483
Not adding detail to the body takes away a lot of the sexyness and would make it yet another hentai drawing to the pile. I say it looks good, just a bit more polish on the face

>> No.4205643
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>>4205533
I think you need to work on your proportions the most, in different places it's lanky, stumpy, stretched, too thin, too big.
Second biggest problem is foreshortening.
As far as a general approach to figure and gesture drawing is concerned I recommend Glenn Vilppu.

>>4205584
Too spherical, have a look at some actual butts, they're only like that in plastic surgery victims like kim kardashian.

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finished it I think, unless there's a mistake I've overlooked (other than the tail, I don't want to make the tail)

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>>4205584
im not recall correctly but you need to know the gluteous muscles to give then form as they move, read anatomy for sculptors that shit its pretty good for this

also i didnt know if i should had made the butt smalle since her waist is wide so i just followeed that

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>start lineart and immediately start hating piece that i once loved
why does this keep happening
I just want ta finish something for once

>> No.4205670

>>4205667
dont*

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>>4205668
you have the ideo on sketch but when it comes to refine it your beg shows

>> No.4205678

>>4205668
Yea that's an issue alot of people have, it's likely due to line weight.

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>>4205668
post the drawing bro, we will help you

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am i on the right track? i spent a while on this i want to know if its even worth finishing or should i just move to study something else

>> No.4205693

>>4205514
sauce?

>> No.4205699

>>4205685
try and finish it, you'll learn more than you think.

>> No.4205719
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Trying to find my own style

>> No.4205721
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doing cat studies this week
gonna do some bridgman studies next week
haven't drawn regularly in quite awhile, been a fun way to get the rust off the gears
https://www.instagram.com/dreamworldnetizen/

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Everyone keeps saying my gestures are fine, but clearly they're not compared to some of the shit people were posting in the other thread. What the fuck am I actually doing wrong?

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>>4205683
please dont call me a coomer

>> No.4205735

>always enjoy the product more than the process
does this mean I'm ngmi or that I just have shitty tools

>> No.4205744

>>4205726
Make them bigger, find more ways to show the gesture, use perspective.

>> No.4205771

>>4205744
I actually draw them big, then resize them down so they all fit together. "find more ways to show the gesture" is a bit generic of advice, but you're right about me not using perspective. I'm going to grind more perspective and try again.

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Rate my art.

>> No.4205774 [DELETED] 

I have been kindly advised to bring up this post question here
>>4205660
and to answer the question of the other char palette its this
>>4205722

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>>4205773
This one too.

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>>4205699
i see what you mean, but i wish i knew how to approach this better

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>> No.4205803

>>4205788
I think this is amazing

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>> No.4205814
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>>4205447
help on choosing a character palette?

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>>4205814
supposed to be the opposing character to this one

>> No.4205821

>>4205814
I very much enjoy the first color palette, I think the other ones are boring and theres nothing special about them

>> No.4205823

>>4205731
Ok coomer. Nice nipples there.

>> No.4205828

>>4205821
thanks. I was worried the 1 palette wouldn't read well with all of the colors being red

>> No.4205836

>>4205828
It also looks like the exact opposite of the other character because of the colors and expressions, and that I like, good job on this one

>> No.4205840

>>4205483
The whole drawing looks a bit stiff. You should work on the proportions and facial expressions. Im not sure what kind of emotion she is portraying, is she horny, disgusted, embarrassed? Try drawing expressions on small pieces of paper

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Only had 30mins to draw this for a co-worker. It's out of my hands now. Please let me know how I can improve. What stands out the most in terms of /beg/ness. I used a basic manga pose ref from the mega book sources.

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Was trying to keep this quite loose and sketchy. I think the values are quite off. Worth grinding figure drawing or Colour and Light as my next port of call?

>> No.4205876

>>4205788
Looks good anon, confidence will come with repition.

>> No.4205880

>>4205873
If you want to improve your values and ultimately improve your colour too then do some drawing with a greyscale

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>> No.4205905

>>4205650
You need jesus.

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>>4205788
gave this a go as well, it actually looked pretty good untill I went in with a smaller brush in an attempt to "refine" it and instead added a lot of clutter.

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>>4205919
Also tried my hand on some enviorments.
The lasso tool is cool but I guess it can't do the work for you :T

>> No.4205940

>>4205905
yeah probably

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>>4205872

>> No.4205953

Proko's videos aren't clicking with me, what are some other resources to learn how to construct figures?

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>>4205953
drawabox and anatomy for sculptors

>> No.4205961

>>4205953
Glenn vilppu, karl gnass, steve huston, micheal hampton, michael mattesi.

>> No.4205963

>>4205958
I hate to use this term, but I don't know why you fags meme about Proko so much. All you do is hurt potential artists who are trying to learn when you keep memeing. It's like fighting game fans that constantly meme about how "bad" every game is, all you do is discourage people from playing because "lmao every game is bad".

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>>4205823
>coom
You're soooo funny, anonymous

>> No.4205981

>>4205968
this was a falseflag, coomer shaming started way before this ss

retard

>> No.4206001

>>4205963
The one thing I will say about Proko is he's not funny whenever he tries to be in his lessons. It just feel like he's trying to be the quirky art professor but it comes off as (for lack of a better term) cringey and lame. It doesn't ruin the lesson in question though as he obviously makes the subject matter the main focus, with the jokes being an afterthought, which shows.

Although I have to admit, making an actual character out of a skeleton (Skelly I think it's named) is clever. Using its energetic personality while also showing how the human skeleton works is a good way for someone to learn from as long as it's not treating them like a child.

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>>4206015
yikes

>> No.4206028

>>4206027
ehh im sorry

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>>4206027
>Yikes
Pwy

>> No.4206066

>>4205968
> "anonymous" Keked.

>> No.4206072

>>4205489

try to reduce the number of lines. doing another drawing on top of your sketches is good practice.

making your mark is liKe walking around place that you've never been before. You'll end up walking down the same road over and over. Doing another drawing on top of your drawing is just retracing your steps. You'll start to see which road is shorter and more comfortable to get to your destination.

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>>4206035

>> No.4206074

>>4206027
It's not even bad you crab lmfao.

>> No.4206076

>>4206028
don't apologize to yikes say fuck you or something

>> No.4206077
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>>4206074
seethe harder trany

>> No.4206078

>>4206073
Nigga this is from sept 18th 2016 are you fucking retarded.

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>>4206076
fuck you

>> No.4206086

>>4206077
I'm pretty sure most "trannies" have bigger dicks than you faggot.

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>>4206078
ok boomer

>> No.4206091

>>4206088
Man you are really obsessed with posting this guys art. Actually mentally ill.

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>>4206091
cope

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I see /beg/ is very productive as today as per usual.

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animechads

>> No.4206115

any recommendations or resources for how to approach digitally painting figures?
i knew almost nothing getting into it i don't feel like im getting anywhere.

>> No.4206121

>>4206088
>posting Mikufag’s old artwork
who do you think you’re fooling

>> No.4206122
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A quick character design I made in a call with my friends, roast me

>> No.4206144

>>4205533
you can leave beg

>> No.4206145
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Could anyone suggest things to draw to work on value? I'm shit at making things the right lightness and darkness. This took like an hour. But was a pretty good subject for trying to match shadows. Any ideas for less detailed subject matter with a lot of value variation?

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>>4206121
I think I recognize this type of autism, this may just be Malaysia-kun shitposting again.

>> No.4206156

>>4206146
Why isn't he still drawing Meteor-tan?

>> No.4206159

what ever happened to that guy who was drawing the same anime character over and over? he had good poses but it was exactly the same character everyday and he always had dark lines, and wide open eyes... ive been gone a few months.

>> No.4206166

>>4206159
hes' still posting i think, the last time i saw him was like 2 threads ago

>> No.4206168

>>4206156
He usually blogs about her on Twatter, maybe you'll get some insights there.

>> No.4206169

>>4206072
Thank you anon, will do it right away:>

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>>4206159
you rang?

>> No.4206176

>>4205536
Do it again. And again. And again. Eventually, it won't suck ass.
Every artist sucks ass at first.

>> No.4206182

>>4206122
Finish it first.

>> No.4206239

how long should i draw for a day if i want to git gud within like 4 years im having trouble paying attention after like 6 hours

>> No.4206243
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is my perspective shitty?

>> No.4206258

>>4206145
Latex suits

>> No.4206271

>>4206243
Draw through the forms. God damn

>> No.4206272

>>4206239
Same question here, 2 weeks into the grind except I was trying to get 5h/day in instead of six but I've been burning out after a single hour.

>> No.4206294

>>4206239
>>4206272
Jesus christ, you people are mad men. Literally draw the amount of time that you want to draw, then that's it. Six hours a day is almost too much, you're going to burn out hard. Don't force yourself too much. Like 2-4 hours a day is just fine, fuck it, even just one hour a day if you want to, just as long as you're doing it and you enjoy it. Fuck.

>> No.4206302

Been seeing people shit talk anime and cartoons, but is focusing on realistinc drawing useful if I want to become an animator? Other than the face I have to study anatomy anyway to make the cartoon drawings move correctly, but is it worth it to focus on realism more than that?

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>>4206302
To be fair, you probably shouldn't be focusing on any particular style as you are learning. The figure is sort of done using all the same basic shapes/proportions and shit, it's usually just the details that you add on later that impact the "style".

>> No.4206324

>>4205840
Good advice, thanks

>> No.4206329

>>4205592
What kind of detail on the body are you referring to?

>> No.4206350
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Did some head construction from real life photos, I think the first one has the eyes lined incorrectly, anyone can give some advice?

>> No.4206364

>>4205799
i dig this

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How'd this turn out I started with grayscale and transitioned to colour.

I'm not too sure if I'll do this method again. But any tips?

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>>4205721
a 30 minute photo study

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>>4206398
and the very initial lay-in (first 10mins)

>> No.4206427

>>4205721
>>4206398
>>4206401
How are you so good at this? How did you learn?

>> No.4206442

>>4206427
FROM STUDYING, BITCH.

No, he probably read Keys to Drawing. I assume these are from reference. Also, for the love of god, stop drawing on lined paper, non-lined paper is pretty cheap and it'll look a lot better and the lines honestly fuck you up I think.

>> No.4206459

>>4206442
I tried reading Keys to Drawing but I didn't understand how to mostly look at the subject and still produce something that looks good and proportional. Measuring by eye is totally beyond me.

>> No.4206475

>>4205968
>these are the people who post on 4chan
oh no

>> No.4206484

>>4206302
I agree it's likely best to forgo the entire concept of style early on and just to focus on real life primarily/exclusively imo. Any stylization you do except complete abstractions will ultimately be based of reality so you have to learn that before you can properly alter it.

>> No.4206485

>>4206115
Well before that, Have you developed your regular drawing skills to a high degree first?
There are a lot of people here who get ahead of themselves and skip parts.

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Meat

>> No.4206530

>>4206427
Thank you, I personally don't consider myself very good, the compliment is much appreciated.
I draw very rarely, but I've taken a figure drawing class in the past and I saw a lot of improvement with that.

Really I am not worthy of giving advice to anyone, but there are a few things that have helped me improve in noticeable ways. I would suggest meditating often, starting from large, loose and expressive lines/forms before moving to smaller and tighter details (remember that detail emphasizes the focal point), and checking back and forth between your reference as often as possible.

When I'm drawing I try to observe volumes and rhythms, think about what the motion of your lines represents on the forms you are drawing, generally follow the rhythm of the form.

There's not much more that I know. I try to keep the things I've learned in mind when I'm drawing, but often I don't.

Take a figure drawing class with a good teacher and stay relaxed. Try to mostly step away from identification with conscious thought, or at least being absorbed in it, as focusing on your thoughts will take you out of your work. Watch yourself work. This is a solid pathway into a flow state, as well as a pathway from practice related anxieties. Meditation was a big help for me when I was most active with drawing.

>>4206442
These are indeed from reference.
I will invest in some nicer paper soon, I'm unemployed at the moment, so I've been working with what's left around the apartment.
Keys to Drawing is a good resource, though I didn't get very far into it myself.

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Hour long form study, measured out the key points with a ruler

>> No.4206571
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>>4206570
And the reference

>> No.4206585

>>4206570
As you've probably noticed yourself it looks good in the thumbnail, that's cause you got the proportions and shading mostly right.

It falls apart when you look closer because the hatching just isn't that good. When hatching you should try and follow the forms of the subject using curved lines and not just do this straight 2D grid sort of thing. Also I'm not sure what kind of pen you're using but at this point I think you'd benefit more from just using a simple pencil which would give you more fine control over line weight.

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>>4206585
Thank you, and yeah you're right anon, the hatching isn't that good. I will definitely work on that. I was using a pigma micron, I hate having to sharpen pencils and would honestly rather just use pens. I also did this study but it suffers from the exact same problem so I'm gonna do another study today and try to work on the hatching

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4206604

>>4206601

>> No.4206635

>>4206604
That's a (probably French) harmonium, not a piano.

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4206640

I'm relatively new to the whole art sketching thing, is say I've amassed about 10 hours of practice at most.
Had a go at the first exercise from the sticky and I'm quite happy with how it went, fingers and has are the main weak points here.
Have to say at a few points I was considering giving up because I wasn't happy with how it was going but managed to get over the perfectionist mindset and I'm so glad I did

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4206642

>>4206601
>>4206604
Use a ref with proper light source instead of diffused light coming in from a window like in your pic.

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>>4206640
This is the practice I did in the session prior to that and this I'm feeling very happy with. Top one was with no reference at all just a mental picture and bottom I spent a good amount of time on. At the moment mechanical objects are what I focus on.

>> No.4206680

>>4206640
SOUL
Listen I know you want a critique but I actually really like this. The exaggerated anatomy and weird perspective looks deliberate

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4206698

Used cuboids and cone'y cylinders for construction and added wrapping contour lines.

How'd I do now?

>> No.4206704

>>4206680
Well thanks a lot anon, I appreciate that. I can see what you mean about the human features being exaggerated, and especially with a Picasso piece it's still appropriate, for other pieces though that's what I'm going to try and improve

>> No.4206706

>>4206680
howw do i know that every time someone types "SOUL" i know with 99% certainty that its going to look like it was drawn by someone who isnt very good at drawing

SOUL is just a meme that retards use to make themselves feel okay about liking something that's bad

>> No.4206712

>>4206680
You know that's an exercise from that one book right?
You probably just like the vestiges of the original drawing that are showing through

>> No.4206713

>>4205460
Line width is still something I need to look up on how to do better. I try doing shadows and when i look at samples it just daunts me.

>> No.4206715

>>4206680
You sound like a retard. I seriously hope you aren't in this thread to give advice.

>> No.4206717

>>4206698
Keep at it Anon. Work on your line weight weight while you do these exercises.

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4206734

I’ve almost never worked with digital, so please be gentle and tell me what I can do to improve it.

>> No.4206818

>>4206734
Looks cute. Fill the white in your drawing, clean your lines, the left arm of the gengar is too short and way up, the neck of the guitar should be straight, the left eye of the other thing is way too big, etc. There's a lot of flaws that ruin the drawing, but as you said, you have no experience with digital so it's normal, if you're using photoshop ctrlpaint has a large tutorial on the program, dunno about the other programs.
Don't be afraid of using references for things that you don't know how to draw, you can search on google "saxophone drawing simple" and "person holding guitar" to get a good idea on how to draw them.

>> No.4206842
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4206842

dumb transformation sketch

>> No.4206879

>>4206842
already better than most tf artists

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>>4205650

>> No.4206921

don't know if technical questions count here but is there any way I can make a gradient in photoshop between two specific lines or colors?

ie if I have a square with a thick inner red shadow and I want that to gradient into the inside of the square, can I do that?

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4207087

Am I doing these Vilppu form overlaps correctly? I feel like this exercise alone has levelled up my understanding of forms, but I wanna see if maybe I'm missing something crucial.

>> No.4207096

>>4206921
Yep, pick the gradient tool (it might be hidden under the paintbucket, if so right click the bucket and you see it) and at the top you can see options on how to apply the tool. You can do a lot with it, including radial gradients, gradients with a hundred colors, gradients with changing opacity, etc. Just select your square and then play around.

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>>4206015
You have chosen quite the challenging perspective Anon and you must be commended for having the balls to do that.

Here is how I would change, I think the torso and the back of the head could use more volume. The face feels slightly flat, I think the mouth area pops out a bit more. The curve of the stockings need to point towards the body since that is how the leg becomes a cylinder Finally the armpit should be connected to the breast line since it is actually the pectoral that continue to the arm.

Great job nevertheless I especially like what you did with the swords! Hope to see more!

>> No.4207187

>>4207166
thanks yeah i overestimated my imagination and anatomy knowledge i need to study more
the face was super difficult and i redrew it like 10 times, i never really mastered head construction and it shows in such a difficult angle (but then again it's very rare someone draws this kind of angles maybe for that reason i dunno)
this was the limit of my visual library and i need to expand it

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4207326

>>4205447
I'm about a third of the way through the 250-Box Challenge and am pretty confused.
I think I understand how to draw the 3-point perspective boxes with the Y-Method, and when I draw an opaque box, it looks okay. However, when I draw through it, it ends up looking really weird. Regardless of how much care I place in ensuring that all lines go to some vanishing point, it always seems like the faces are tapered more than they should be.

I uploaded an example of the opaque->transparent drawing. Any suggestions?

>> No.4207334
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4207334

Started drawing my daughter, but I’m struggling to make it not look flat. Should I be focusing more on shadows or light? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

>> No.4207377

>>4207334
>I’m struggling to make it not look flat
You expect her to have curves at 3 y o? Sicko

>> No.4207382

>>4207334
I'm using a soft blending brush for the shadows and light, should I be using a hard brush instead?

>> No.4207384

>>4207377
Lol, she actually is 3. Good joke though, made me laugh.

>> No.4207385

>>4207334
The white background is bllinding you. It is am ept space of nothing that is why it is had to make it look "not flat" change it to a slightly color and it will help. Just do anything but pure white okay?

>> No.4207389

>>4207385
>change it to a slightly color and it will help.
meant to say "slightly darker grey " or "darker color"

>> No.4207392

>>4207334
Try doing a value study in greyscale first. The illusion of form comes from subtle changes in value which your painting lacks. Break up the image into light shadow and halftone and go from there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw&list=PLLmXZMqb_9sbNLM83NrM005vRQHw1yTKn&index=3

>> No.4207399

Just got all the shit I ordered from amazon and I'm going to start drawing stuff in my sketch book, but I'm scared of drawing shit, should I start with simple stuff? I kinda want to draw animals and monsters from monster hunter, but I understand that that's high end stuff and all I know is how to draw simple geometric shapes in perspective.

>> No.4207441

>>4207399
Never mind your skill set and draw monsters. Use references.

>> No.4207488

>>4207326
On the right: the top line on the furthest plane is too dramatic. It looks like it would converge with the other line too close to your box so it should be adjusted. Also remember that even if you place your lines correctly if the vanishing point is too close or too high up/low it can result in warping(I don’t think that’s the case in your pic I think you just made the angle too dramatic.)

>> No.4207495

>>4206712
>>4206715
Yeah I was being a gigantic retard. I didn't realise it was from the sticky

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>>4205533

Did some more poses from memory I often have problem with (limbs facing forward, body at an angle and upward facing view)

>>4206144
Only thing I can draw more or less consistently are character designs. Can't do backgrounds or even things like cars or other objects. So I think I'll stay for now

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4207548

What should I be doing to get better? I've been referencing photos a lot but when I try doing stuff from imagination it turns into whatever hell this is.

>> No.4207552

I'm at a point where my line art is decent (or at least good enough that I'm happy with it) but my coloring isn't very good. I believe specifically I'm having an issue with blending. I have been emulating other drawings to learn how those artists properly make shaded full colors but whenever I do it, rather than a naturally blended look, it just looks like 2 flat colors next to each other. Hopefully that makes sense. In other words, how do I into more advanced coloring so that it doesn't look so flat and one-dimensional?

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This was just a nostalgia drawing.. But I liked how I can easily draw a decent generic anime head, I think it's decent at least.
I took a chunk out of the face when coloring though.

>> No.4207566

I'm obviously a beginner. What I do as a bit of practice is, i trace something small and than next toit i attempt to redraw what i traced by hand. What i notice is that I mess up proportions a lot. Like the heads will be wider, or taller, or bigger in some way. What can i do to fix this?

>> No.4207570

>>4207548

basic fundamentals

>> No.4207580

>>4207548
I did naht hit her
Oh hi anon

>> No.4207587

>>4207580
lel

>> No.4207644

>>4207537
Got a blog?

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my blending pencil ran out and I have no idea where to get new one

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>>4205447
is this good enough?

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4207704

any painting tutorials... step by step
still have no idea how to use the hard round

>> No.4207707

>>4207704
Loomis

>> No.4207710

>>4207707
like... in general or the painting stuff..

>> No.4207716

>>4207710
When in Doubt, more Loomis

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how is it /ic/? is it shit tier?

>> No.4207721

>>4207704
Ctrl+paint courses, should be in the sharethread for free

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>>4205721
>>4206398
Today I post a 5 minute gesture (´ω`)
I will continue with a focus on photo studies for a few more days and then introduce some style studies and practice from imagination before moving on to study a new subject

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rer

>> No.4207736

>>4207735
this is cool, keep drawing man

>> No.4207738

>>4207735
Hello mushroom anon

>> No.4207742

any tips on staying motivated after a long work day? I draw at the front counter maybe a total of 45 minutes a day but when I get home and sit down in my chair I just lose every drop of energy to learn and practice.

>> No.4207743

>>4207697
Midna has a great butt and great legs, but her torso isn't the same width as one leg.
If you wanted to give her a normal-body appearance, you would have given her normal arms, but she has small arms so I suppose your wanted her to be a Shortstack.

Just... make her legs shorter

>> No.4207752

>>4207743
shorter or thinner?

>> No.4207753

>>4207742
Discipline
Pick up a pencil and just fucking do it. Who cares if it's shitty, or it's only 5 minutes, or you keep getting distracted during it, as long as you just draw. The longer you sit doing nothing going "I want to draw", the less you actually draw
Beyond forcing yourself to start drawing, don't force yourself to keep drawing if all you're doing is sitting there stressed out producing trash, at that point, give yourself a rest

If you can't draw because the thought seems tiring and vaguely anger enducing, it might be time for a break. You can't expect yourself to lift weights every day of the week for 5 hours straight with no breaks, it's the same for a energy consuming task like drawing, I personally don't draw on the weekends, and if I do, it's because I had a great idea and it's only for maybe 10 minutes

So, force yourself to start, but don't force yourself too hard for some sake of "keeping a streak"

>> No.4207760
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4207760

Been trying to learn chest again since the last post.

how do i scan drawing so i don't need to take pics anymore?

>> No.4207762

>>4207743
>>4207752
and yes, I wanted to go for shortstack

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>>4207738
Holy fuck, this legitimately gave me goosebumps, in a good way, I think
I may be beg, but it feels real good when someone recognizes your thingies and such, thank you

>> No.4207777

>>4207752
Shorter and maybe make the lower leg thinner, unless you want it that way

You know, do it the way you want, I'm saying what I think of the drawing itself, but honestly speaking, what do you think?

>> No.4207779

>>4207775
>>4207735
If I remember your art correctly I know you because you are E*eli's friend

>> No.4207780

>>4207753
thank you for the good advice, anon

>> No.4207781

>>4207760
stupid nigger learn from anatomy books first then proceed with dolls/shapes to form a human body

>> No.4207785
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4207785

Am I on the right track here? For the ones in the middle, I tried drawing them one way, then changing the eye line, did I do this accurately?

>> No.4207786

>>4207777
based quad poster

I personally think I made her too tall to make her a Shortstack And I love Hips

also tell me what do you think about Hands, Hair, foot, and navel

>> No.4207803

>>4207786
I'm still beg, so this is like advice from a random person.

Hands: nice, they seem based on reference but I don't know if that's good or bad. They feel a bit small but maybe that's because of the body proportions.
Right leg's feet is a left feet, just so you notice
I don't know what to think about the Hair, hope to see it painted
MMMMM TUMMY BUTTON
sorry

I'm >>4207735 btw

>> No.4207807

does paint tool sai ever go on sale? i'm trying to move from linux to windows but azpainter isn't available on windows and i don't want to have to pay $50 for sai

>> No.4207808

>>4207807
>buying programs
BAHAHAHA

>> No.4207820

>>4207807
What >>4207808 said
SAI is the most pirated art software there is, its creator doesn't even care about piracy now, at this rate it is just public code, go pirate it now or I'll kill you

>> No.4207822

>>4207717
you're either a self-pitying faggot, or someone who is desperate for (you)s. Here is a tip if you actually want to post on /beg/, don't sign it.

>> No.4207823

>>4205814
since ur trying to do a contrast to a more orange/ yellow caracter, id say use a mix of 4 and 6, navy blues and dark oranges work well together and can really help define characters from eachother

>> No.4207829

>>4207649
buy them online desu, craft stores eff u over for them

>> No.4207836

>>4207820
then send link, cant pirate if no link
>inb4 lazy

>> No.4207840

>>4207836
Dude
5 seconds
That's about how long it takes to type in the tracker website of choice and then type in SAO and click a fucking result

>> No.4207843

>>4207840
is rootcracked safe?
i never torrent shit

>> No.4207844

>>4207843
Rutracker, l337.io, thepiratebay, c'mon man, literally any of those

>> No.4207845

Is drawing grids on pictures good? Or is it a bad habit?

>> No.4207846

>>4207822
lol that's the name of my shadowrun character, but whatever. Do you have any criticism or you just gonna be a cunt?

>> No.4207853

>>4207779
E*Eli? Oh

>> No.4207863

Is it better for a mid-level beginner to study multiple areas during sessions or is it better to lock down certain fundamentals before moving onto the next?

>> No.4207867

>>4207779
Stop pretending to be me
>>4207853
I recognize your art because of your extremely identifiable shading technique

>> No.4207877

>>4207820
i honestly tried (searched on nyaa and tpb) but couldn't find the newest version

>> No.4207889

>>4205447
I don't understand, I'm confused, frustrated, and a bit angry.
I've been studying Drawabox for a while, but drawing straight lines? Boxes of varying sizes? Literally anyone can do that. I can make circles in tubes and shit, but I'm not any better of an artist.
I don't understand "grinding." It's not like Skyrim or some shit where I draw a page of blobby circles every day and I can suddenly draw heads. And how am I supposed to incorporate this into my art? I can make really neat stick figures, but I'm no better at actual art.
I don't understand this whole "finding your own style" thing either. If all art is imitation, and art becomes better the more accurately you can imitate something, then how does one's style emerge?
This isn't like math, where I learn multiplication, and then realize exponents is just weird multiplication. This isn't programming, where I have a hundred variables that make anything when used in combination. This isn't piano, where I practice the notes of a song until it becomes muscle memory, and I can move my hands faster for the next song in the book.
I just don't understand! Do I have some kind of mental block? Am I missing a crucial part of the puzzle? Am I looking at this the wrong way? Am I learning the wrong way? Can I just not do art?
I don't understand.

>> No.4207892

>>4207889
I understand your frustration. You are actually right, "grinding" doesn't do shit unless you can incorporate it into your drawing from imagination.
>If all art is imitation, and art becomes better the more accurately you can imitate something, then how does one's style emerge?
All art isn't imitation. There's fundamentally your problem.
>This isn't piano, where I practice the notes of a song until it becomes muscle memory
To a certain extent, a lot of drawing is muscle memory. Drawing lines accurate/quickly and without any wobble is part of the muscle memory required to draw well.
Would you mind posting something that you've drawn yourself?

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4207896

>>4207785
Anyone mind helping me with this one? Also, does anyone have any advice on how to use this knowledge of perspective to apply it to figure drawing? I assume you're not supposed to be drawing out boxes and vanishing points and shit when you're trying to draw a figure.

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>>4207892
Here's a page of daily exercise. A bit shittier than usual, wasn't really feeling it today.
Thing is, I don't feel like I'm learning art. Just... lines.

>> No.4207912

>>4207889
The guy behind draw box literally says multiple times that he doesn't want you to grind and that you should do other things aside from his lessons/exercises so that's on you. Drawbox is for absolute beginners and for giving people exercises.

>> No.4207927

>>4207911
Yeah, literally what this guy said: >>4207912 it's literally written right here:
https://drawabox.com/lesson/0/3
You dumbass. He says right at the beginning of the guide that you need to not just grind, but apply that grinding to drawing what you want. What's the fucking point of drawing and "improving" if you literally have nothing that you're going to apply that too? No wonder you feel like you're not learning art and are just learning "lines" because that's what you're fucking doing.
Also, when I asked to see something you've drawn yourself, I meant a fucking drawing, not exercises from drawabox.

>> No.4207933

>>4206302
htt ps://d1b10bmlvqabco.cloudfront.net/attach/hzacuh48ewd5wy/grqphq0hpmb/hzimwnw6jr63/willams01basics. pdf
From the guy who made Roger Rabbit.
Literally the first chapter.

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>>4207912
>>4207927
Alright, jeez, I'll stop grinding.
Anyway, behold the culmination of my study!

>> No.4207936

>>4207896
>I assume you're not supposed to be drawing out boxes and vanishing points and shit when you're trying to draw a figure.

yes, you do. it's called 'construction".

>> No.4207937

>>4207877
So fucking download the not-newest-version

>> No.4207941

>>4207911

if you're learning from drawabox don't get stuck in one lesson. Understand what the lesson trying to teach you and move on to the next.

Those circles and lines are just warm ups. Do that before doing any drawing everyday.

>> No.4207943

>>4207934
Kill yourself

>> No.4207955

>>4207934
Look, man, if you're not gonna take this fucking seriously, then we aren't either. We're actually trying to help you then you upload a gigantic 4160x3120 picture, upside down, of a literal stick person. It's pretty rare that you get someone who actually wants to help you on /ic/ and you've only just made enemies of anyone who wants to help you.
What did you gain by doing this? Nothing. Now, pick something, an anime girl you like, a cool car, a tank, a gun, whatever and fucking draw it instead of fucking around.

>> No.4207957

>>4207941
Alright, guess I'll stick with Drawabox
>>4207943
Rude, but that's probably because you think I'm being obtuse or something.
I am totally, 100% sincere when I tell you that this is the extent of my art abilities.

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>>4207936
Okay, I guess you're right, but you're not actively drawing out a horizon line before the beginning of every drawing, then plotting vanishing points on that horizon line, then matching up the sides of each form to those vanishing points every single time, right?

>> No.4207963

>>4207957
>I am totally, 100% sincere when I tell you that this is the extent of my art abilities.
Clearly it's fucking not, you dipshit. Quit fucking around and draw an ACTUAL fucking image. Don't draw what you "can" draw, draw what you WANT to draw and then post it so that we can try to help you. Quit being a fucking asshole.

>> No.4207971

>>4207957
You genuinely have brain cancer and witnessing you talk and post with the other people in this thread is very painful please God kill yourself

>> No.4207973

>>4207961
not him but no, professional illustrators rarely do, and most do not. when composing a picture you tend to auto-correct to set it up in an aesthetically pleasing way if you're experienced. but the experience is the key - think of drawing with the horizon line as learning how to bowl with the bumper up.

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>>4207955
I'm very sorry if I'm coming off as rude. I really appreciate that this website offers free criticism 24/7, and see it as a very helpful resource. I want you to help me and I am willing to try my best.
I did not intend to upload the picture upside-down, I didn't know it would do that. I took this picture upside-down, so hopefully it will upload rightside-up.
Again, I'm sorry. I don't mean to make anyone angry or anything.

>> No.4207977

>>4207963
I'll try to copy (not trace!) something since I can't draw from memory to prove I want to learn, gimme a few minutes

>> No.4207988
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>>4207977
I'm going to have to brush up on my circles, I'll add them to my daily exercises.
Pic is my attempt at
https://www.google.com/search?q=face+with+lines+drawing&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiY56HJ6ujlAhVJP98KHYCGDKIQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=face+with+lin&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.1.1.0l2j0i5i30l2j0i8i30.15835.17372..18596...0.0..1.341.1828.0j5j3j1......0....1.........0i67.vNKy98iQNuk&ei=sdPMXdjKA8n-_AaAjbKQCg&bih=470&biw=360&client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&prmd=inv#imgrc=GJk4pWmWKtFieM

>> No.4207990
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4207990

3rd attempt at a portrait in photoshop. thoughts?

>> No.4208021
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4208021

Does anyone have any animal anatomy books or any tips on how to draw a fucking dogs leg because I for the life of me can not fucking figure this shit out

>> No.4208024

whats the difference between male and female hands? im gonna keep using my own hand for reference but i know theres a slight difference what is the difference?

>> No.4208029

>>4208021
Can you not go on Google images and search "dog skeleton" or "dog legs" or "dog anatomy" or "dog muscles" or "animal anatomy" or any other hundreds of variants involving *name of animal* *leg/muscle/bone/skeleton/anatomy*?

>> No.4208035

>>4208024
male hands
>larger palms
>fingers are longer and thicker than women's
>generally have some hair on knuckles which is thicker/more noticeable than it would be on a woman
>more prominent veins and bones
female hands
>not uncommon for women to have peach fuzz/light hairs on hands but it's not noticeable unless close up
>bones and veins are usually not very visible, unless the woman is thin
>women have softer skin than men, might be good to take than into account
Didn't list fingernails since they vary greatly and aren't dependent on sex. Hope that helps a bit. The most distinct thing is size of hands.

>> No.4208037

>>4208024
>>4208035
You forgot the important fact that males have digit 4 longer than digit 2, while females are equal or reversed. Of course, these are all generalities. I also like to draw women's hands proportionally narrower and with more tapered fingers.

>> No.4208042

>>4208037
Do you mean digit 4 being ring finger and digit 2 being index?

>> No.4208072

>>4207990
his (her?) expression is a bit unnatural, the calm rest of the face doesn't match the almost panicking eyes.
I would put her (his?) right eye looking more forwards

the cheekbone ridge looks a bit too straight too, even if it's like that in the reference it would probably communicate the form little better if the zygomatic arch would push bit further or the cheeks hollow inwards

>> No.4208077
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4208077

It seemed funnier in my head. I definitely fucked up the kid’s legs.

>> No.4208093
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4208093

>>4208072
Thanks! I've been working on the eyes. Not quite sure what to do with the cheeks though. Does this look better?

>> No.4208103

>>4208093
ye in my opinion looks better

>> No.4208122

>>4208103
Nice. I showed my friends and sister and just got praise. Nice to get critical feedback.

>> No.4208123
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4208123

How do I draw the hands better so they don't just look like fingers coming from the wrists? And I want to get better at positioning the arms so they look more natural. I also want to know how to shade better than just randomly scribbling, and how to make it cleaner.

>> No.4208130
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4208130

>>4205721
>>4207729
I like your cats, they are better than mine but have you considered making them wizards?

>> No.4208132

Don't know where to start with digital brushes. What settings are good for sketches and what are good for line art?

>> No.4208139

>>4208132
I just used hard round to color and soft round to smooth when making this >>4208093

>> No.4208143

>>4208139
Legit more appealing than the original character portraits for Pillars of Eternity 2 lol.

>> No.4208184
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4208184

I'm not sure if it's an issue with my tablet or PS but when I use the Eraser tool in PS it looks like that pressure doesn't work but it does work with the Brush tool, but I think I saw a similar issue in CSP when using the Eraser tool too in CSP so maybe it's my tablet driver?

>> No.4208199
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4208199

Technically speaking, it's checked but it never work intended to erase with pressure. It always seem to use the default size.

>> No.4208284
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4208284

One more finished. I tried drawing kemono, was I able to nail it? I'm not sure about her boobs, still beg as fuck drawing tits.

>> No.4208285
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4208285

>>4208284
Quick halftones version.

>> No.4208288
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4208288

eat my dick anons

>> No.4208314

>>4208284
Looks more like furry to me

>> No.4208344
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4208344

cant decide on whether i should go with white/red stripes or red/blue stripes

>> No.4208362

>>4208288
don't chicken scratch anon

>> No.4208397
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4208397

Hands are a bitch to make, care to help me out with them, Anon? Pic related

>> No.4208400
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4208400

>>4208397
Oof, wrong pic

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>>4206585
>>4206642
Tried to match the hatching more to the form. It's not perfect, I know not all the lines are curved correctly and it's a little messy but I think it's an improvement. I also used a reference with a better light source

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>>4208429

>> No.4208445
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4208445

Im a beginner so I suppose this question belongs in here. Some kind anon linked me his anatomy book on muscle but I think there's a mistake in pic related? Am I wrong?

>> No.4208448
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4208448

iadd some more to his jaw. was kinda hard to draw because the ref is so dark but anyways. i had a charcoal paper sketchbook with different color papers and figured this would be a good use for it. only used a white charcoal pencil. thoughts?

>> No.4208449
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4208449

How i make the tidders feel like their being squished. Their not feeling like their being squished.

>> No.4208458

>>4208449
Fill a balloon with water
???
Experiment

>> No.4208459

>>4208445
Yes, you're right. It should be triceps lateral head

>> No.4208461

>>4208449
Use a reference my friend. It's not hard to find tits being squished

>> No.4208464
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4208464

>>4208459
That explains everything cause I was in a real conundrum about that for a few hours yesterday. This reference nicely explains it though.

>> No.4208466

>>4208445
Yes.

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>> No.4208514
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>>4208077
I think I fixed the legs. Not that any of you care. What’s pre beg?

>> No.4208515
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4208515

Thank you for letting me post this here.

>> No.4208573
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4208573

Tracing to figure out how to find simpler shapes. Then dressed up the traced figure with the outfit from a helpful persons redline of a previous sketch I did.

Finally corrected the chest placement by looking at the original source image again before letting go.

>> No.4208647
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4208647

Did some updates on my elfess. Added more detail to the hair, smoothed the background a bit more, and fixed some shading issues I had before.

>> No.4208681
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4208681

how do you shade like that? it looks like there is subtle texture to it, and some edges are sharp and other pleasantly blurred, I tried it in photoshop with texture brush but failed hard

>> No.4208689

>>4208647
The way the eyes are placed and the cheek shadow makes it look like the character is posing for a selfie.

>> No.4208762
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4208762

Trynna anime face from imagination help

>> No.4208765

>>4208681
Make a texture then use stamp tool. You can feather it however you want depending on brush selection.

>> No.4208777

>>4208762
look at real anime idiot

>> No.4208780

>>4208466
Yes to me being wrong or the picture being wrong

>> No.4208793

>>4208681
It's a screentone sheet. Can't drawing software simulate that?

>> No.4208801

>>4208793
I dont know man, I have photoshop installed now, is there something better for this kind of drawing?

>> No.4208812

>>4208780
Sorry. Yes to your supposition that there's a mistake in the pic. And yes to your idea that the muscle in question is the triceps and not the biceps.

>> No.4208825

>>4208812
Perfect thanks.

>> No.4208829

>>4208801
http://www.chrishilbig.com/make-screen-tones-part-1/

>> No.4208845
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4208845

Tried painting a torso from imagination. I soon realized it's too early for me to do stuff like that but at least I learned what not to do.

>> No.4208895
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how do I fix her? she looks like tranny atm

>> No.4208908
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>> No.4208915
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>>4208400
>>4208397

>> No.4208919
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4208919

>someone gives me a very abstract criticism
>ask him to elaborate
>never replies
Why do you faggots do this

>> No.4208924

>>4208919
because most of the drawings here are too fucked

i know people expect sth like "the forearm is too long" or "her thigh is bent too much" critiques
but most of the time that doesn't even matter cause the author has no understanding of 3d forms, gesture or construction and this is what he should focus on
>>4208478
>>4208895
like these guys
for example

>> No.4208986
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4208986

Can someone help me with values here? I wanna learn.

>> No.4209009

>>4208777
Yikes

>> No.4209012

>>4205775
>>4205773
rage emogi anthropomorphised.
cute/10

>> No.4209016

>>4208895
Study from ref
Make a drawing of a girl that looks similar to the type of girls you want to draw, then directly after (spend at LEAST 30 minutes on the from ref drawing, most of that 30+ minutes should be spent STARING at the ref), then draw a face, maybe even the face from the ref, from imagination or memory
Repeat this several times for several days, ref then imagination/memory, until you can draw a feminine face from imagination

Do not forget proportions, construction, and (not as important to others, but) aesthetics or the science of beauty
and flip your canvas occasionally but not constantly

>>4208924
No, /beg/ critiquers are just fucking lazy
>>4208919
Which one is yours?

>> No.4209017
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4209017

trying to work on perspective and more dynamic things, i really need some good advice since you can see i’m going for a stylized look

>> No.4209018

>>4208986
Hi Anon sorry but I do not have time to overpaint for you but I can leave you with this landscape tutorial demo video which I hope will be helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWMMo1v594Y
Warning, it is almost 3 hours long but quite informative on thr basics.

>> No.4209019

>>4209018
Thank, bro. Gonna watch it.

>> No.4209020
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4209020

>>4209017
Well shit, why did it compress so hard??

>> No.4209031
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4209031

Some advice or suggestions with my general style would be great, too! I’m looking for literally anything right now...

>> No.4209032
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4209032

>>4209017
Pump up the colors, most of it looks very muddy, make the green for the grass especially juicy green, do the same for the rest
Exaggeration is very important, no only in color but in figures, emotions, etc.
As for perspective, going along with exaggeration, and line of action, the uh other person, the one I assume has blue hair, should be more over to where the red thing I put is
The extra of the canvas beyond the red thing should be cut off, unless you want to make another panel and make this a two panel comic, Mayne a close up of the blue haired chicks face
This is a really shitty edit because I'm on mobile right now, but you get the just I hope

And also, the most obvious, clean up your lines

>> No.4209038

>>4209031
Clean. Up. Your. Lines.
If you're too lazy to do that, draw a beginning rough draft with a light colored pencil (animators use a light shade of blue, it doesn't usually show up on the scanned drawing, I personally only have a lime green laying around) and then go over it in your normal medium of choice (pencil, pen, marker, whatever, if you use non erasables over it, and the colored lead of choice is erasable, that's great)

Second, you are pillow shading on the hair, I know it's supposed to be anime/cartoon whatever, but either use flat shading or do anything besides pillow shading, you have normal shading on the neck, some weird unsettling shading on the eyes, and no shading almost anywhere else, stabilize yourself, decide which shading is suitable for you

Develop these basic things and come back later
And also, don't forget to grind fundies and do some studies from ref and from real life, ref does include studying from pics of anime/cartoon characters you like

>> No.4209042
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4209042

>>4209032
yea, cleaning the lines up is something i’m kind of bad at... I’m definitely working on it though! thank you for the advice on the positioning, i might actually draw a second panel for this, now that you mention it.
Also, she actually has pastel green hair, lol. Pic related.
>>4209038
i don’t get shading in the slightest... Most the time i draw flat line art.

>> No.4209046
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4209046

My first portrait, based off a sketch from google images. Acrylic on Canvas.

I need people with a more experienced eye to spot where I went wrong and shout out ways I could improve.

>> No.4209048
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4209048

>>4209046
Uploaded the larger file by accident.

>> No.4209061
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4209061

Practicing moreee anatomy and figure. From imagination. Thoughts anon?!

>> No.4209065

>>4208919
>a /beg/ asks for a critique
>someone gives him a nice solid redline
>never replies
Why do you faggots do this

>> No.4209066

>>4209016
>Which one is yours?
>>4206329

>> No.4209089

>>4209048
So this was based off a ref?
Either your ref was shit or you really need to practice construction and proportions
The background blends in with the skin tone and hair, you should use a more contrasting color, perhaps a polar opposite to the blonde/skin tone, or a tetriary, a more tea color, since you are also using purple and dark red

The main problem, not to say color theory isn't important, but it will forever look bad if you don't make the head look normal, face included.
If need be,take a picture of yourself or your mother in that pose with a ponytail and a strand of hair over their face. Then draw a copy of the pi ture, and then draw from memory, and finally, try to redo the painting. Don't waste a bunch of canvases doing this either, do it pencil and paper, grayscale, maybe do colored pencils
>>4205483
It looks like you were going for some anime style
I know the majority of normies will immediately either go for the ass or the face, eventually they will look at the face at the very least, and your face is very oddly proportioned for anime or even a normal person, unless her bangs really are supposed to go below her eyebrows, then the face is too long instead of eyes up too high.
Shorten her chin and make her eyes bigger, I suggest the famous horny half closed eyes. Your eyes make her look less anime and more western half realism. Her perspective on the body is wonky and the way you shaded the chest spot in between the tit makes it look like there's supposed to be a tit in the light spot, either way the perspective is just fucked in between hip and chest.
that little line on the elbow needs to go, looks like fat is piling over or smth, very gross, same with the lines on the neck, max you should have one line to demonstrate the bend, the line of the muscle that goes from behind the ear to the clavicle, don't need the entire line, unless you're drawing a muscular male. Same with the lines coming from the armpit, you can demonstrate that with shading

>> No.4209099

>>4205483
>>4209089 (cont)
Also the hand is fucked, again, you have some weird wrinkles
honestly, the tit is pretty far out btw. So is the one leg, it transitions from butt cheek to let pretty weirdly though that may be just weird perspective or fat deposit from whatever ref you used
Either way, exaggeration is pretty important in non realism styles, so you should emphasize the asscheek going out by making the area between the furthermore asscheek and leg skinnier
Don't really bother with shading too much right now, just fix the proportions

>> No.4209126
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4209126

anything else I could improve upon?

>> No.4209144

>>4205447
I just got my order for Morpho-anatomy for artists at the mail. Did i spend money for nothing or will this help me get started?

>> No.4209151

>>4209061
Anybody :'( ?

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4209165

ignore this one
>>4209126
changed up the lips a bit more.

>> No.4209182

>>4209151
Look at reference. Arms don't grow from the pecs.

>> No.4209200

>>4208919
I ain't being paid for this shit

>> No.4209202

>>4208429
you have the right idea, but you gotta practice it more
seriously do consider the pencils this pen you're using is not making things easier for you

>> No.4209205

>>4209061
>>4209151
You should be doing these alongside other studies FROM ref
The pose is very unnatural, try holding the pose in the drawing in real life
The face is all kinds of disgusting, do construction, do proportions
The forehead is tiny, the mouth is to the side (yes I know you're trying to do a cheeky grin) one eye is sunk too deep and the eyebrow is all the way where the temple should be
The pecs don't do that when you are in that pose

>> No.4209301

>>4208573

use a ref with more dynamic pose and preferably nude or with tight clothing. it's easier to see the flow and weight distribution that way.

start with gesture>construction>anatomy

get comfortable with each method before adding the next.

>> No.4209342
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4209342

I know this blows ass, but what are some pointers so I can get better? I just started drawing maybe 3 days ago,

>> No.4209344

>>4209342
The top is hand drawn, the one beneath is a tracing

>> No.4209371

>>4209342
For now, you should just be drawing, doesn't matter what, at this point just drawing more often will show gains

But, drawing funders should be a good focus with even more gains
Go through drawabox lesson 1, all the way through, take your time, do tasks over again, even go overboard and do more than the lesson asks of you (if it says draw x amount of pages of whatever, maybe draw x+2), follow along to some Loomis books or any fundies books
Just go ham at those for a good week or two straight, every day for at LEAST an hour each day of dedicated study
And start on paper, not digital. Digital comes later. If you don't have any non lined paper, start by getting some non lined paper, loose leaf printer paper, sketchbook, back of old homework sheets, doesn't matter, just not lined

>> No.4209373

>>4209205
Thanks. Actually helpful

>> No.4209381

>>4209342

https://drawabox.com/

it's free
finish it

don't get stuck on one lesson until you perfected it. just do enough until you understand the lesson then move on to the next. stuck or don't get it? ask here or go to reddit and ask there.

you can always redo the entire thing if you want.

good luck.

>> No.4209382

>>4209373
I'll be here if you need any more help

>> No.4209391

>>4209381
Here's the thing about drawabox, anything besides lesson 1 and 2 is, well, not very great
And while you shouldn't be stuck on either of those lessons forever, you need to go back to them and redo them every once in a while, I recommend personally doing part of a lesson, then drawing whatever you want, maybe a ref practice, maybe imagination, who knows, and then the next day reviewing the same part, moving on to the next part, imagination/ref, next day review, move to next part, etc etc, with at the end of the lesson taking up an entire day to go through the entire lesson working on the parts you need the most help with

The practices should be practicing what you learned

If this is confusing please say so and I can demonstrate or elaborate

>> No.4209397

>>4209391

post your work

>> No.4209398

>>4209371
>>4209381

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. Tomorrow I'm gonna start on that.

>> No.4209404

>>4209391

chill the fuck out. okay, I only suggest it because it's free, readily available and as bad as most people claim it to be it's a good start for a complete beginner. as he gained more knowledge he can just replace the stuff he learn from drawabox.

IF you want a higher quality version look for Dynamic sketching video lesson. Peter is a better teacher and videos are way better than text.

>>4209398

Alternatively if you have access to CGP look for dynamic sketching video lessons. Or ask around video lesson thread.

here's a free part 1 of the lesson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaif0PpNMas

again good luck anon.

>> No.4209427
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4209427

>>4209404
Lmao, why are you freaking out, I recommended drawabox before you.
I'm just clearing up that he shouldn't do all of the lessons and suggesting a better way to go through it.
>>4209397
Working on the beginning beginning of an animation, starting traditionally
This is what I have for one of the characters, a very beginning to what this character may look like with emotions. Already have the clothes out but I have to draw how his body language is yet
It's gonna be a maybe 5 minute animation, gonna take fucking weeks mostly practice of animation and blah blah you get it. Shopkeeper sphynx cat animation practice for portfolio filler

Upside down because fuck you

>> No.4209442

NEW
>>4209441
>>4209441
>>4209441

>> No.4209803

>>4209301
Makes sense. Will do anon.

>> No.4210879

>>4205514
I always end up faping to the models and don’t finish my drawing as a result.

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uwu

>> No.4211411
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cant find the qtddtow so, how the fuck am i supposed to fix this

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