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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4195469

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

thoughtful critique betters both parties. help each other and try not to get assblasted.

>> No.4199787
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working on Francis Drake fanart

>> No.4199788
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Style over technique

>> No.4199822

>>4199788
You're clearly not a beginner. Get out.

>> No.4199849

>>4199769
How does one learn from an art textbook? Should I just copy all drawings, or what?

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Attempt to improve dino. But ultimately made more mistakes with bottom jaw and legs are fucked up.

>> No.4199868

>>4199822
stop talking to yourself

>>4199849
you have to know what you cannot do before you grab the book. for example if you feel like you cant draw legs, find a section of the book about legs, read the text first, copy the drawings, close the book and see if you're able to draw better legs.

>> No.4199874

>>4199853
where are its feathers?

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>>4199769
So there's introductory books for perspective basics, human figure basics, etc. But are there any (good) books for painting/digital painting basics? Because I cannot color worth a god damn.

>> No.4199882

>>4199788
is that a grid? seriously?

>> No.4199884

>>4199878
ctrl+paint course on digital art fundamentals is okay, it will teach you how not to fuck up basic rendering methods and keep it clean. for more advanced rendering and textured brushes i think you have to figure it on your own by observing other's work and just trying/experimenting. you can try watching videos on advanced brushworks but they rely highly on intuition in my opinion.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOLh8o5PtZYr4KYq3yIkUXXnaiU3n6fi-FZMJ4-gqCc/edit heres the course

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whenever I draw something where it's super zoomed in and go out of my way to hide hands I can almost convince myself Im okay

any advice for grinding hands or a book on the subject? as it stands I cant draw a hand for shit unless I find a reference which looks exactly like the hand I want to draw and at that point Im just copying.

>> No.4199904

>>4199884
Thanks man, I'll give these a look.

>> No.4199910

>>4199897
Loomis has a book specifically on drawing the head and hands.

>> No.4199912

>>4199897
i bought two hand models, a left and a right, so i can pose them however i want and do practice by just drawing from observation.

>> No.4199915

Why is it important to keep the pencil as sharp and pointy as possible?

>> No.4199922
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4199922

I know its bad to run before you can walk, but I dont really draw ever, but I have a sudden urge to animate stuff and I'm kinda shit at character designs and foreshortening.
I have toonboom version 6 trillion or whatever, (the new one) and Animate. But theyre convoluted and dumb so I'm thinking of just doing it frame by frame in sai.
Any advice that could benefit me will be cool and good

>> No.4199925

>>4199915
to have a better control of your line. to actually put what you meant to on your paper. you dont have to keep it needle sharp at all times just dont draw with a stub

>> No.4199928

>>4199874
I grew up watching Jurrasic park
>>>/an/

>> No.4199938

>>4199922
Don’t limit yourself, start animating if you want to, grind alongside that as you improve

>> No.4199951

>>4199938
I wouldnt really know what I'm doing if I started now. I dont like the designs I'm coming up with and I dont know what resources I should be following if I want the animations to look good

>> No.4199956

Can i ink over my penciling before erasing the extra lines?

>> No.4199995

Is the overhand grip necessary for drawing? Should I use the overhand grip at digital drawing?

>> No.4199998

>>4199951
Nothing anyone does will be good for a while

>> No.4200000

>>4199956
If you're using pens and not markers yeah, graohite destroys marker nibs.

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Man, I really should be grinding hands. I've been avoiding them for too long now as you can see.

>> No.4200011

what are some subject matters that are relatively easy to draw and have a lot of margin for error?

FZD mentions stuff like spiky mountains, rocks, trees, loose clothing.

anyone can recommend anything else?

>> No.4200015

>>4200011
Those don't really sound easy to draw. But I guess anything organic that isn't animals will work. Water, clouds, etc.

>> No.4200078

What pencil grade should i use to bold in faintly drawn lines?

>> No.4200110
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Drew this from imagination today after watching 10 pages of bridgman anatomy left is before watching bridgman right is after watching his book.

Have been drawing for a month.

>> No.4200201

>>4200000
>not markers
I can’t use a sharpie?

>> No.4200214

>>4199787
How is this /beg/? Go to /int/

>> No.4200222

>>4200214
He can't draw crotches.

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How can i make the lower half of the dress feel more like a dress and less like a table cloth?

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>>4200214
but i was featured in /beg/ thumbnail 2 threads ago :/
also my shading is horrible please help

>> No.4200260

>>4200256
Don't just use white to make a lighter version of a color..

>> No.4200281

I'm going through Loomis Head and Hands the lack of directions is frustrating. How am I suppose to know how to set up the facial plane incorrectly? Which step do I start? How big should the side oval be? It's the perfect example of "draw a circle... draw the rest of the fucking owl" meme.

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>>4199769
study
>>4199995
no it is nice for drawing with normal pencil or similar and that it

>> No.4200296

>>4200214
You have to realize /beg/ covers anything from "never held a pencil" to "Been grinding this shit for daily for 3 years" right now /int/ is mostly people who are just a little bit shy from working at a paid professional level, and people who are just to beg to realize it.

>> No.4200302

>>4200281
Try fun with a pencil before tackling heads and hands. The former is more beginner oriented.

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Just my daily drawings.

>> No.4200312

>>4200281
Odds are you should be taking quite a few steps to far simpler subject matter if your running into these kinds of issues right now.

>> No.4200330

>>4200295
Thanks
Now I don't have to torment yourself

>> No.4200380

Where /beg/ take references?

>> No.4200383

>>4200380
CG peers has batches with sets from NMA/proko and other pose bundles/books.

>> No.4200384

>>4200380
twitter

>> No.4200387

>>4200380

my head

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>Be me
>Do sketch one day
>The next day finish the sketch and go over it in a darker pencil + Basic shading

Is this what it means to be interested in your own work? Does it get easier from here?

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I drew seneca, i feel there is something wrong with proportions

>> No.4200436

>>4200430
Also is there a way to make a drawing not that messy, while still being bold and fast?

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Was only planning on drawing for a short while yesterday, ended up drawing for 2 hours straight and made some stuff I like
1/2

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>>4200490
2/2

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1/2

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>>4200580
2/2
forgot to resize, my bad! i hope you can forgive
me this time anons

>>4200110
are you sure you're ready for bridgman...

>> No.4200599

>>4200580
>>4200591
oi mate this is cheating you are just drawing the countor of the hand

>> No.4200601

>about 8 people posted their stuff
>not a single critque
Is this normal? What others places are there besides r*ddit to get feedback

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>want To draw something
>Can't because it's way above my skill level And unable to actually draw it without it looking like shit

>> No.4200609

>>4200599
gets the point across. drawing small with a pen too thick to get finger lines accurately

as long as it reads!

>> No.4200617

>>4200601
Most things here have far too many problems to fix, critique is reserved if you ask for it or if the drawing only has a few fixable issues.

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Visited the capitol a while back and drew a statue I saw there. What should I work on?

>> No.4200645

>>4200255

use referrence

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>> No.4200655

>>4200607
Then draw it and let it look like shit. Look at the result and address what needed fixed. Rinse repeat. Progression in art is a whole lot of failure.

>> No.4200658

>>4200652
what the fuck

>> No.4200669

>>4199822
nice same fagging lol

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Thoughts on this design? Trying to do some sci-fi armor/cyborg design heavily inspired by @MonyPich2 on Twitter.

>> No.4200689

>>4200607
The draw it in a shit form Anon, you can come back to it later when you are better. You cannot make an omelette without breaking some eggs first. Just relax and stop being so hard on yourself.

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Tell me why this looks so bad

>> No.4200731

>>4200727
Absolutely not enough value contrast,

>> No.4200734

>>4200308
nice. only thing is see is that the foot in first one seems a bit short, unless you meant to cut it off

>> No.4200739

>>4200430
Have you thought of blending, and then erasing for highlights? For proportions his forehead might be a little short

>> No.4200748

>>4200580
Nice, can't tell where her ear is though. Your style is pretty neat, and you're good at highlights. If anything her shoulders seem a little rounded, especially the right one

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this is something I did today

i'm not sure what i need to work on, i've never asked for critique before

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I fucking suck at drawing without references and landscapes. Landscapes are so fucking hard to sketch without getting bogged down in detail.

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>>4200796
re-sized

>> No.4200805

>>4199884
Thanks dude, I've been trying to ask my painter friend how to do this shit but she can't fucking explain it.

>> No.4200850

>>4200591
>are you sure you're ready for bridgman

Is this a question?

>> No.4200883

>>4200607
hey you want to know something terrifying?
you know that thing you want to draw? if you dont at THE VERY LEAST write it down or AT LEAST AT LEAST fucking draw a reaalllllyyy shitty rough sketch, its going to be gone forever. forever forever. you wont remember it the same if you dont do something about it. and then that great fucking idea you had will be gone forever and youll randomly remember you had a good idea but... its fuzzy, and it isnt as satisfying as it was, and that annoying itch will be in your head... "what was it that I was going to do? it was big, it was epic, it was beautiful, it was so good, life changing... what was it again? I know it had this but what did that look like?"

do something about it or fucking lose it forever

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Only a century away from becoming a yaoi artist.

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only a century away from becoming decent pogu.

>> No.4200967

Any recommended courses or books for someone who wants to do more painting rather than line drawing?

I'm a complete beginner so I'm willing to start with line just to help me... understand basic forms (I'm guessing here), but I really just wanna be able to do a rough plotting and then go straight into uh.. I guess it's just blocking in values?

I'm just writing terms I've heard without really knowing what they mean. Need a course or book to get me through that.

>> No.4200983

>>4200850
are you a retard?

>> No.4200989

>>4200681
Cool desu

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Can I get a critique? I posted on the last thread but no one gave me an answer.

>> No.4201026

>>4200998
Eye and mouth are too wide
Ear is too high and far back
Jawline is nonsense

What were you using for ref?

>> No.4201027

>>4201026
imagination

>> No.4201028

>>4200791
Really good rendering, tits are really huge but I guess that’s an artistic choice. Question though, why is it so blurry? Is it the method you used for rendering it?

>> No.4201031

>>4200998
They eye and mouth are too big. Jaw bone doesn't look like this. Ear doesn't start at jaw bone.
Start with drawing, get to painting after you nailed perspective and proportions / anatomy.

>> No.4201033

>>4201027
Even if you're drawing from imagination, you should look at a ref after the fact to try and find your own mistakes. The more you can critique your own work, the less you have to wait for assholes on the internet to shit on it before you can improve.

>> No.4201040

>>4201028
thanks! the tits are really big because of the model i referenced.

the reason it's blurry because of the brush i used to rough it out.
If i wanted to finish it, i would go in and polish with the hard round and an airbrush, but since this is more of a study, i didn't really polish it much. Also, i don't know how bad it is, and i'm not going to spend hours polishing a turd, which i why i'm posting here for critique

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>>4200983
I'm asking for real

>> No.4201079

>>4200967
Same, I'd be interested too

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any obvious stuff to fix? her left hand looks fucky but I'm not sure how to go about fixing it

>> No.4201160

I feel like I can't get a single fucking fineliner pen that is actually decent. I've bought Fineliners from fucking Target and they sucked ass. They dried out after only a couple of days or using and just generally sucked fucking dick. I bought this set of pens:
https://www.amazon.com/Sakura-Pigma-30062-Micron-Blister/dp/B0008G8G8Y/

because I saw an artist I liked on Twitter using them and not only did half of them fucking leak from the top, but even the 0.5mm pen that didn't leak is just fucking shit. You have to press down hard for it to come out as a full line without it drying out in the middle and it's basically random whether you get a good angle that it won't dry out in middle of a line. Is this just what all pens are fucking like or am I using them wrong? I thought if I bought a pen and fucking stroked it across a god damn page it would just place ink on the fucking page like you see in videos, but apparently not because I haven't gotten a SINGLE pen that's worked decently and not dried out/shown white from the page partially through the line.

I would take a picture, but my phone camera is ass. Basically, someone just give me a set of pens I can buy IRL or on Amazon that'll actually fucking work.

>> No.4201210

>>4200967
>>4201079
You won't likely find this because it's almost universally recommend that you gain a high degree of mastery (this could easily be a year or two+) before you start thinking about painting.
If you're an absolute beginner you're most likely just to sabotage yourself by going straight into painting.

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fuck

>> No.4201241

>>4200791
what was your process on painting this?

>> No.4201265

>>4201131
The hand looks weird because wrists can't bend like that, or at least not comfortably. Try to recreate the pose of her arm with your own, and you'll see what I mean.

>> No.4201271

How am I supposed to use Bridgmans book? I have the constructive anatomy one, and while he explains the anatomy of the body and parts, he doesn't exactly explain how to draw them. I'm currently mostly copying his stuff and trying to see if I can learn something from them, but is this the wrong thing to do?

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I tried making this one less stiff then the ones before

>> No.4201282

>>4201241
i started with a sketch and filled it in on a layer underneath with a base color.
from there i roughed in areas of light and shadow for the basic forms on the same layer as the base color with locked opacity.
then i started detailing and refining on a new layer on top of the sketch layer.
i turned off the sketch layer once i felt like i didn't need it anymore to show structure.

i would post the layers, but i already merged them because i didn't feel like i needed to keep them for the future, whoops

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No reference drawings.

I want to draw cute girls, if I keep practicing the regular human body can I jump to cute girls later?

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>>4200256
You are going well Anon. I would add more saturation to make it more alive. I have chosen a light direction from the top left since that is where the boobs seemed to get one and tried to adjusted the other highlights towards it notably the hair, the clothes, the eyes the guns. Choosing a dedicated direction for the main light source (or two)will be helpful to avoid confusion on where to put shading.

Finally I couldn't resist subtly adjusting the expression to be smug as well cause she looks really cute but she had an expression that felt unsure. Yours were pretty good already so that was just a personal thing.

Please do more!

>> No.4201366

What should I start drawing today? I only have a pencil and regular printer paper.

>> No.4201371

>>4201271
Someone pls respond, I really want to learn how bridgman does it, but I'm not sure I'm going about it the right way.

>> No.4201376

>>4201350
thank you for your time man
it is always embarrasing when people do an overpaint and I cringe at my mistakes in the drawing itself that they had to put up with
thanks

>> No.4201424

>>4201376
Do not be so hard on yrouself Anon you are learning, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Frankly my biggest difficulty with the picture came from it being really small which made the details much harder to work with but that is cause of the board.

You are doing fine keep going!

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>> No.4201432

>>4201429
Same mistakes as always.

>> No.4201474

>>4201432
I don't know which anon you are. What mistakes are you referring to?

>> No.4201481

>>4201275
gets better the longer i look at it

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>>4201265
is this any better for her left hand? I think it looks a bit man-ish

>> No.4201540

>>4201481
I'll take it as your being sarcastic, if so please do tell me what's wrong with it so I can fix it

>> No.4201553

>>4201484
The hand looks fine to me except all of the fingers look the same length, just make the ones in the back shorter. her right forearm though looks very long to me? like theres unecessary length before her wrist

>> No.4201557

>>4201540
im not being sarcastic but I am high

>> No.4201562

>>4201553
thanks for your help, I appreciate it

>> No.4201576

>>4201557
Fair enough lmao

>> No.4201635

>>4201061
no ur not ready to study bridgman

>> No.4201646

>>4201061
Youre fine. Dont let these bitter losers limit you. If you can decipher bridgeman then go for it. It does look like youre just starting out and i doubt you have a good grasp on form and perspective. I would try Hampton before bridgeman

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>>4199769
I am stuck. what do

>> No.4201681

>>4201671
i think you should add the rest of the body

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Morning study. How do you draw a cone viewed from above without rendering?

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>>4201681
thanks
>>4201693
circle (with possible ridges) with indent in the middle- like a very small, dash-like half a circle

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trying some difficult perspective

>> No.4201732

>>4201693
good enough for /INT/

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>>4201718
niggga im roch hard

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>>4201718
nice, though i can see you had some issues with her face. maybe this reference could help you.

i like the sword a lot

>> No.4201756

>>4201741
I think she's supposed to look down into the viewers eye.

>> No.4201760

>>4201741
yeah yeah faces from below are the most difficult to draw, ill use some ref thanks

>> No.4201769

>>4201732
I thought /int/ was just a meme thread. I'm not feeling confident enough anyway.

>> No.4201784

>>4201732
>>4201769
Honestly I would disagree just to quote what I said earlier. >>4200296

>> No.4201789

>>4201769
theres some curse on the /int/ thread, someone really hates it for some reason but i dont understand why, nobody notices or complains that /draw/ is 60% total beg, but the moment someone posts something below ruan jia level in /int/ the retards start fuming

>> No.4201811
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4201811

I've been trying a new style recently, what can I improve on?

>> No.4201834
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4201834

how am i doing. I been studying chest more and heads. i still have problems drawing the stomach part.

End game is comic not realistic

>> No.4201857
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4201857

how should i make gesture? 1 or 2?

>> No.4201860

>>4201857
neither cause those are not gestures

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>>4199769
Best I could do. 90 minutes.

Head is obviously fucked. Haven't figured out how to neck yet. Left shoulder/arm is out of place, but I can't seem to find the right spot for it - thus the hand being in the wrong spot relative to the head.

What else?

>> No.4201875
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4201875

How do I have "cleaner" line art? I feel like everything I draw has that blatant " removed the pencil and connected the line later" feeling, comparing it to even the first post in the thread makes me feel dumb

>> No.4201878

>>4201860
Don't listen to the other anon. Gesture does not equal gesture drawing. I'd suggest doing the second one as it conveys the perspective of the pose better.

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>>4201834
Get some basic understanding of anatomy. You seem to be guessing a lot which should never be the case.

Did pic related from imagination so proportion + anatomy is off but I think it illustrates how basic understanding can help you.

>> No.4201917

Is overhand grip a meme?

>> No.4201918

>>4201864
The fact that you took 90 minutes. It's good to be realizing the problems yourself but don't put get stuck on it. Do more. A lot more.

>> No.4201920
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4201920

help me

>> No.4201921

>>4201875
Don't chicken scratch for starters.

>> No.4201925

>>4201917
Pretty common as long as your working traditionally

>> No.4201927

>>4201912
i was mostly using morpho anatomy book to study. any books that would help my progress?

>> No.4201932

Drawing basic shapes is the first step for any drawing and then adding layers upon it. Right?

>> No.4201945

>>4201918
Time isn't as much a concern for me as improving is, at this point.

One step at a time. I'd rather spend 20 hours on a good drawing than do 50 shitty ones in the same time.

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>>4201932
That's one way to deconstruct it. Different artists do different things.

>>4201945
Not saying you should rush it but I don't think taking too long on a single drawing is good for the gains.

>> No.4201965
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4201965

My drawing is shit

>> No.4201974
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4201974

opinions

>> No.4201976

>>4201974
Bad values (pillow shaded), symbol drawing (that ear) and chicken scratching everywhere. You need to read the sticky.

>> No.4201979
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4201979

>>4201484
here was my attempt at rendering

>> No.4201993

Picked up a copy of Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, plus the workbook. Do you guys have any advice for working through the book? Should I make the viewfinders?

>> No.4202003

>>4201950
when did you start drawing?

>> No.4202039
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4202039

how to draw hats

>> No.4202041

>>4201920
Did you have a sketch, or did you just start painting immediately?

>> No.4202049

>>4201965
It is, yeah

>> No.4202050

>>4201965
I like it

>> No.4202052
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>>4202003
Early june. So around 5 months. If you were wondering about my level back then, I could copy pictures somewhat decently, but sucked ass at anything else.

>> No.4202061

>>4202052
how the fuck did you get so good so fast

>> No.4202067

>>4201979
I think you should render the background first, or at least tint it and determine the light source(s), so that you have reference for lighting.
Like, is the main light source from the window, or from a light somewhere else in the room? What is the ambient lighting in the room? A pure white background makes it kind of hard to judge what the values should be on your main subject.
From what you painted, it looks like she is lit from a bright overhead light with a lot of ambient lighting in a white room, and I'm not sure that's what you are going for. It makes the painting look sterile, which I don't think matches the character's expression or the setting she's in.

>> No.4202069

>>4202061
I actually made a progress picture here >>4183800
As for the question, I don't really know how to answer it but I guess it's because I have a big fear of stagnation.

>> No.4202071

>>4202067
yeah it was always supposed to just be an overhead light, which isn't very interesting in retrospect
the window was just kind of doodled in at the end
I don't think I've ever actually colored a complete background, at least not in a long time
I would definitely benefit from thinking about the whole picture instead of just trying to frame one figure

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4202113

>>4202071
I'm obviously pretty beg, but pic related are the changes I would make to make for more interesting lighting.
You don't even need a fully rendered background, just enough of it so that your character can have interesting lighting in proper setting.

>> No.4202123

>>4202113
wow that immediately looks a lot better
gj anon

>> No.4202149

>>4202039
>help I have no idea what i'm doing seriously

>> No.4202184

>>4202069
That seems a bit misleading. Are you saying you never drew anything in your life before june?

>> No.4202193

>>4202184
I definitely didn't draw very much. Maybe one doodle in my notebook every three months.

>> No.4202196

>>4202193
So day one of having zero prior drawing experience. You bust out that skull?

>> No.4202204
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4202204

Quick character sketch before bed, this ones rough but would something like this be alright to animate?

>> No.4202206

>>4202196
Kind of. I did a couple of copies before, traditionally, and I think I got the hang of it fast. It was my first time working with values digitally though.

>> No.4202208
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4202208

>>4201979
i like the tentacle hair but the thigh gap is ridiculous. women tend to put their top leg fall in front of their bottom leg if they want to look sexy but even when they don't there really isnt much if any thigh gap.

>> No.4202210

>>4202113
I was just guessing at your methods but I tried to replicate what you did
https://i.imgur.com/eVaRZbJ.png
>>4202208
probably what comes from trying to draw a nude character off a clothed reference

>> No.4202216

>>4202069
Is Hampton the only book you used? What's your study process like for drawing animu/stylized faces?

>> No.4202225

>>4201875

do another pass on top of your sketch and see the magic happen.

>> No.4202230

>>4201811

style is something you "find" once you have decent understanding of the fundamentals.

>> No.4202240

>>4202204
draw her naked so we can check your anatomy

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>>4200681

Made another. Also my first time drawing something horse-like

>> No.4202243

>>4202216
Yes, but I don't think it helped me that much. I kind of stopped constructing because it was a hassle to keep the measurements right so I freehand a lot. Most of the lines you see are the ones I had to do.
My study process is very simple. I do one head from reference and then do one from imagination, not too different but not the same thing as the one just referenced, rinse and repeat.

>> No.4202247

>>4200681
really satisfying colours. the actual armour design has a cool bio-mechanical kinda feel

idk, i dig it

>> No.4202261

>>4200883
Why do you talk like a girl

>> No.4202264

>>4202050
thanks

>> No.4202266

>>4202206
i call that bs

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>>4202261
I'm crazy and probably have split personality

>> No.4202281

>>4202266
I don't care. I have no reason to lie.

>> No.4202296

>>4201993
This book doesn't seem to have that many exercises, it's mostly walls of psuedo-science. Is there something I'm missing? The workbook has some more which is nice but I'm already a decent chunk through the book

>> No.4202304

>>4202296
Should have picked keys to drawings instead.

>> No.4202334

>>4202304
I actually own that one too, I think I did a few exercises some months ago but then I hit a wall because I was already burned out from draw a box. I'm gonna do that one once I finish this book

>> No.4202356
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4202356

Thoughts? Doing some work for a little project of mine, it's supposed to be a comparison of the head of an alien male/female.

>> No.4202443
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4202443

got some colored pencils to try.
was pretty fun but I pussied out on trying to texture the surface

>>4202356
looks interesting, but it seems a bit flat. Maybe few solid black shadows? Bit hard to tell if the dots are real pattern or just shading.

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4202465

I want to know your thoughts

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>>4200727

>> No.4202472

I've been grinding head construction for some time now, it's literally the first step I've taken into drawing and I've been just drawing heads. Do you recommend keeping just studying heads or maybe mix it up with something else? I don't really know what I'm doing.

>> No.4202482

>>4201337
Draw both. You only get good at drawing cute girls by drawing cute girls

>> No.4202504
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4202504

Studying hands as I said I would. Far from good but I feel way more confident doing hands from imagination now.

>>4202356
Don't know if that's what you intended but they don't look very different. You could try searching for sexual dimorphism in insects for inspiration

>>4202443
Nice for what it is.

>>4202465
Not sure what I am looking at.

>>4202472
Maybe it'd help if you posted work. We don't know where you are.

>>4201337
There's not that much difference between both. It's mostly just proportions.

>> No.4202513

>>4202504
those hands look nice
was there a certain resource/method you used for constructing or did you just go at it your own way?

>> No.4202516

>>4202513
There's no method. I pretty much copy what other people do to get a feeling for their "energy". I was doing boxy people earlier because I saw someone else doing it.

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>> No.4202772

>>4202206
>>4202266
That wasn't even the anon who asked but yeah you've absolutely spend time drawing before that skull that's just not something you make on your very first day with never having drawn previously.

>> No.4202774

>>4202266
>>4202772
The growth on the entire progress line isn't even as big as the growth of going from absolutely nothing to that supposed starter level. 1 day > 5 months?

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>> No.4202851

>>4202849
based retard

>> No.4202855

>>4202851
Why are people shiting on this guy so hard? His stuff is better than plenty of other stuff that gets posted in /beg/.

>> No.4202856

>>4202851
lmao I'm starting to think you're my very first fan always commenting on my stuff the moment I post.

Thanks anon.

>> No.4202863

>>4202772
>>4202774
Alright. I admit that "no drawing before this point" line was misleading, but that wasn't my intention. I just didn't have anything I could post before that point.

>The growth on the entire progress line isn't even as big as the growth of going from absolutely nothing to that supposed starter level. 1 day > 5 months?
No, mindlessly copying stuff is easy. Anyone can do it. It just takes time. Drawing from imagination is the only thing that matters to me.
Many years ago, in highschool art class I once had a kind of bitchy teacher that actually tried to push people. She always to told us to draw faces. Needless to say I struggled with it so I came up with various measuring devices including using a fucking ruler. It got easier until I didn't have to use grids. That's my the extent of my "experience". A fucking art class I had once a week for a year. I was never interested in pursuing drawing until now.

>> No.4202884

>>4202863
>No, mindlessly copying stuff is easy. Anyone can do it. It just takes time. Drawing from imagination is the only thing that matters to me.
Based and redpilled.

>> No.4203098

>>4202849
Imo you're doing pretty good. But I feel like there are some repeat flaws that could be worked out if you just took a few steps backward and did more gestures/sketches in bulk focused on things like proportions for example.

>> No.4203103
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4203103

Okay, just completed CTRL paint’s intro, what’s wrong with this peanut-thing I drew?

>> No.4203111

>>4203103
The cast shadow makes no sense and it flattens the image. I think it should be on the opposite hidden side, actually.

>> No.4203184
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>>4203111
How about now?

>> No.4203194

>>4203184
Looks way better from the thumbnail. Your edges are still problematic though.

>> No.4203205
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4203205

I didn’t like the airbrushed effect of the last one, trying to go for something more painterly, but I’m not really enjoying the standard Procreate brushes... maybe I just don’t understand yet

Also why are the shadows on both of mine so fucked?

>> No.4203210

>>4203194
>thumbnail
>2.4MB
Oh shit, sorry, didn’t realise how big they were. Is there a quick way to compress images on an iPad?

Thanks for the crit, what do you mean about problematic edges?

>> No.4203218

>>4203210
Look at the shadow. It's unnatural. It fades off softly but then it cuts off sharply. Look at real life shadows.
You've got hard edges and very soft edges but no inbetween.

>> No.4203229

>>4203218
I see what you mean... I was reading Drawing The Head by Muaghan and he advised to always give shadows hard edges to make it clear between turning form shadows and cast ones... guess that’s not a hard and fast rule

>> No.4203242

>>4203205
Resize your shit, your midtones are too dark, your cube is not a cube, your reflected light is too light, ditch the textured brushes.

Stop painting and learn to draw first.

>> No.4203269

>>4203242
Okay, I will focus more on drawing! I’ll keep up the painting too because I have zero understanding of colour theory and need to put in the hours

>> No.4203309

>>4202468
Where is this from?

>> No.4203319

>>4202855
Because he thinks he is better than he is and he refuses to listen to advice.
Just because he is better than most people in /beg/ doesn't mean he isn't /beg/ himself.

>> No.4203344

>>4203229
Cast shadows are supposed to have hard-ish edges, but not with as abrupt of a cutoff as you put. Also, you made the shadow a gradient, which doesn't occur in cast shadows unless it is a very stretched out one that gets way further from the object casting it. Gradients should generally be saved for ambient occlusion.

Ctrl+Paint is definitely very good for teaching technical skills but he doesn't focus too much on theory and fundamentals. For that, I would recommend Marco Bucci on youtube, especially his videos on shadows and ambient occlusion.

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>>4202849

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Is this all I need to start? I like these mannequin because it makes me look like an artist if I put these on my desk.

Saving for a good tablet aswell

>> No.4203415
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4203415

how do i improve my rendering bros

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>> No.4203423

>>4203415
anon i am speaking from experience
improve your drawing first

>> No.4203430

>>4201864
That should have been 90 seconds.

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>> No.4203462

>>4203423
where do i begin, i just seem to have hit a roadblock

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>>4203462
drawing gestures

>> No.4203476

>>4203406
Those mannequins are a scam

>> No.4203490

>>4202240
Dont think that that's how it works

>> No.4203494

>>4203476
those mannequins teach you nothing, but I think they can be somewhat useful for checking lighting.

>> No.4203499

>>4203494
>>4203490

Scamnequins.
Do you dislike them due to them being cheating? Or are they just generally not useful when drawing? Id assume theyre good for checking proportions and for foreshortening. Shame they dont have fat deposits, muscle or bone though

>> No.4203502

>>4203499
They’re poorly designed and have poor movement. There isn’t a good artist alive that uses them.

>> No.4203511

>>4203499
shid tagged the wrong person
>>4203476

>>4203502
You can probably buy a better quality one somewhere, again their probably useful for beginners to keep their limbs the right length
Good artists wouldnt need one, they have miniature stuffed pygmy people with full articulation to reference

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>>4199769
This is my first drawing please no bully.
I really suck at drawing proportions, heads, feet, and hands. I wish to improve these.

>> No.4203522

>>4203511
lol the proportions on those mannequins aren't good for anything

the only thing I can think they're good for is checking lighting like the other guy said

>> No.4203525

>>4203518
You dont commit, I'm having a hard time believing you want to improve at all with this 7yo looking squiggle drawing. Use references and actually put effort in asshole.
Post it again when youve actually invested time into it

>> No.4203529

>>4203525
I spent 5 hours on it, I just really suck at drawing ig. I'll try to improve it, good thing my pad software lets me save work.

>> No.4203531

>>4203499
to be useful to you, you need knowledge that make them obsolete.

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>>4203529
>I spent 5 hours on it

What are you drawing with? A hammer and chisel?
I dont want to deter you from drawing but thats really surreal. Are you more comfortable using paper?

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4203588

trying to get this likeness down a bit more. for a toon im working on. maybe curve out the left side of the cheek a bit more?
(It's Picard from TNG if that's not obvious already)
any pointers here?

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4203601

What do people here think is the optimal ratio of reference to imagination. I've worked on the assumption that trying to draw something from imagination that you haven't studied before is simple poor practice and the ratio of reference to imagination should shift from mostly reference to mostly imagination as you gain proficiency. Right now I mostly draw from reference but when I occasionally draw a figure from imagination I do feel like I'm seeing similar progress as when I do from reference.

>> No.4203610

>>4203601
70:30 imagination reference.

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I've spent too much time on this piece of garbo, should I bother finishing it? Pose is stolen from temmie btw

>> No.4203613

>>4203601
rather than the ratio, I think the frequency of the switch is the most important. if you are drawing from imagination, you should be looking for thing that you need to look up on reference, both picture and drawing, if you are drawing from observation, you should try to draw variant from imagination to make sure you mastered it. if you stay too long on one style of practice, you will quickly get stuck in your comfort zone and learn very slowly.

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>>4200580
sameposter here, redrew this from crit
(sacrificed bg for now in favor of a cooler looking drawing imo)

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>>4200591
sameposter, also redrew this one

>>4202572
these all feel flat please do your cylinders anon

>>4203435
hand is a bit small, I feel like you're a bit too scared to hide things with your foreshortening. Great effort though, keep at it!

>> No.4203634

>>4203532
I just got a Wacom drawpad, its actually not that bad, I just need more practice on it. This is my first drawing on it.

It must be pretty obvious, but most of the effort went into making sure the Girl standing on the car looked decent(well by decent I mean not a blob), I phoned in the rest due to time constraints. I looked at alot of those YouTube, how to draw manga style videos as reference, again, but those didn't seem to do much. I just need more practice is all. I'm going to see if I can put more time into making it look better!

I appreciate the honesty.

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>>4202225
Better?

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>>4203588
cleaned it up a bit. I think i like the curvier cheek a bit more

>> No.4203764
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4203764

will there ever be a day where i don't hate my drawings?

>> No.4203766
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4203766

Any advice?

>> No.4203769

>>4203766
damn, thats pretty good, I wish my drawings looked as good as that. How do you get the anatomy and proportions so right?

>> No.4203773

>>4203766
>tfw i could draw like this without the loomis meme
>tfw uni destroyed all of this
>tfw i envy this skill
oh how the might have fallen

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Should look up cat anatomy but my heart is lazy

>> No.4203788

>>4203773
>loomis meme
Thank you anon, im going to look this up. Hopefully it will help improve my artstyle

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>>4203769
Thanks, I think my anatomy still sucks, just look at the hands. For proportions try to measure the length of the arms and legs relative to the body.

>> No.4203791

>>4203774
My self worth is tied to being acknowledged by strangers online please tell me what you think of my drawing

>> No.4203796

>>4203764
The day when you don't spend 4 days polishing a turd and actually start studying, yeah

>> No.4203803
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>>4203790
>look at the hands
You are too hard on yourself. Your hands are the statue of David compared to what I can do. I would actually like to develop my style to draw anime-esque characters like that. Any tips?

Pic related is my shame. I hope to get better. Im just starting out, but its still a dumpster fire.

>> No.4203819

been trying to fix mistakes. Need to study omore

>> No.4203820
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>>4203819
forgot pic.

i know how you like dicks /ic/

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>>4203803
I think your art would improve from learning perspective and figure invention. Hampton helped me a lot.

>> No.4203845

>>4203833
Thank you so much! I will practice learning those concepts. I will post my completed work in another one of these threads. I am very gratefu that you were kind enough for pointing me in the right direction!

>> No.4203876

>>4203790
Did you draw those skulls from imagination or reference?

>> No.4203915
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4203915

Whadaya think?

>> No.4203921
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Rendering complete scenes is incredibly daunting. I look at something like pic related and think it would take me months to finish all that detail.

Is it something you just have to throw yourself into once you understand perspective?

>> No.4203926
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>>4203876
ref

>> No.4203931

>>4203921
Dude it was just overapainted on a screenshot

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>>4203915

>> No.4203936

>>4203931
shit you're probably right huh

>> No.4203961
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4203961

what can i do to improve my values? im really not happy with the chest and neck on this at all. also how are my proportions

>> No.4203966

>>4203796
the advice i got on my last sketch was stop posting half completed sketches and finish something.

>> No.4203972

>>4203098
Thanks for your kind words but mind telling me what the flaws are exactly?

>> No.4203975

>>4203634
start with pen and paper first, i tablets confuse you early on and give you too many options

>> No.4203992

>>4203931
Wanted to say that but I'm not a digital artist so I wasn't sure

>> No.4203994
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4203994

It's not fair, this is way better IRL. Looking at the whole picture... it's pretty simple.
But I liked doing it. I wanna draw super detailed Manga like the BLAME! dude.

>> No.4204006

>>4203994
The Blame guy is an architect. You might want to look into that kind of stuff if you want to draw like him

>> No.4204018

>>4203659

cleaner. it's much easier doing another pass on top of your sketch because the lines is already there. Also try to look for and improve parts that you think are flawed as your retrace your steps.

That way the outcome might be better and it's good practice to look for flaws on your own drawing.

>> No.4204022

>>4202465

too busy. no focal point.

>> No.4204064
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4204064

>>4199769
Sloppy unreferenced doodle with new pens I have no idea how to use properly.

>> No.4204066
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4204066

Hey guys, what do you think about my character? I just finished drawing the head, now I need to work on his body. I’m thinking of naming him something like, I don’t know, “Bojak”. What do y’all think?

>> No.4204071

>>4204066
it captures my face when drawing perfectly, good work anon

>> No.4204072

>>4204064
The head is above beg, you should feel pretty great being able to draw a cute anime face without reference. The pose itself is kinda stiff but I dunno how to make it better, props for drawing Lio

>> No.4204192
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Clothing makes me want to die

>> No.4204272

Is photoshop a fucking joke? I've recently tried switching from csp to photoshop when I saw some of its tools and editing capabilities. It's been one problem after another with shit like using/switching brushes, getting sensitivity to work, and just general navigation of the program being troublesome. I get that it's a dense program, but it just seems really unintuitive for drawing and especially coloring with whatever clusterfuck is going on with switching brushes/tools.

What big things am I missing about making it more usable?

>> No.4204277
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4204277

I didn't try very hard today. I felt like I was going to ruin the canvas the instant I put down the pen. Maybe I just did that.

>>4203915
Let's be friends.

>>4203961
Doesn't look so bad if you squint. Try taking more time refining the edges.

>>4203994
I like the "metalness" of the robot thing in the back.

>>4204064
That's a very awkward way to hold something.

>>4204066
He looks like a complete faggot.

>>4204192
You just need more experience copying stuff in general.

>> No.4204286 [DELETED] 

>>4204277
Damn. I just realized I messed up the neck. Embarrassing.

>>4204272
I moved from photoshop to csp and never looked back. PS has better image editing tools though.

>> No.4204288

>>4204272
I eventually was able to get the pressure sensitiviy to work properly by turning on windows ink, but now I can do basic operations without the program lagging to windows inks rings (like the white ring that indicates a right click that starts forming when you hold the pen down for more then .2 seconds)

>> No.4204362

>>4204288
use this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nL10xGIA_s
this is the window problem it seems

>> No.4204371

>>4200508
Nicely done anon!

>> No.4204385

if im going to stretch my watercolor paper could i just tape it down to pic relate and not bother getting a seperate board? its sort grainy and im not sure what the material is. also, after i stretch it, then fucking what? is the only advantage 'not buckling'? do i need to keep it taped down while i paint on it? are staples better. sorry for the barage of questions.

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>>4204385

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>>4202504
>Maybe it'd help if you posted work. We don't know where you are.
This is my work, I did all of these from memory.
That's all I've been drawing, just heads.

>> No.4204393

What kind of autism do I need to get in order to be a prodigy without any work?

>> No.4204410
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4204410

I feel like I've just made a massive breakthrough.

Can you tell I've never studied anatomy or fundies?

Any critique is welcome.

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>>4204391
doing pretty good there man. definitely in the right direction. Pay attention to the planes of the face though. make sure that 'T' stays nice and perpendicular

>> No.4204442

>>4204410
What breakthrough?

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4204452

>>4199769
gave in to the meme and worked with a single flat brush

something's off about the nose but i can't pinpoint it

>> No.4204454

>>4204429
Thank you very much man. I will just draw some heads from real life photos later then keep working on my head construction.

>> No.4204477

>>4203210
if its procreate just resize the canvas, export the image, and undo it back to its original size. just make sure not to exit the canvas so you still have to the option to undo back the canvas resize action. retard

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Heres some heads from the past 5 days imagination. Im having trouble making facial expressions let alone exaggerated expressions.

>> No.4204561
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4204561

Grinding out one point perspective from the first couple pages of Perspective Made Easy. Am I on the right track here? What should I be learning here?

>> No.4204572
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4204572

Managed to draw the hat.
what's the biggest problem that should be fixed right away here?

>> No.4204606

>>4204410
You'll always be able to tell untill you do.

>> No.4204652
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>>4204572
Not exactly sure why the left ear is all floaty. Maybe drape it down the ass. Also, the right arm doesn't seem to exist, but if it was hanging straight down, you'd probably see it.

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>>4204277
i darkened it and refined the edges a bit more, hows it look now?

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>>4203319

>> No.4204694
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>>4203319
???

Why would I post in /beg/ if I think I'm better than /beg/?

>> No.4204776

>>4204694
stiff pose
asymmetrical
flat
wonky anatomy
inconsistent perspective

please do more studies before you try drawing from imagination

>> No.4204786

>>4204776
How do I make something not look flat

>> No.4204836

>>4204786
post your construction

>> No.4204850
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4204850

Why do they look so unappealing.

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>>4204836

>> No.4204857

>>4204853
The squiggly lines are confusing you. You're drawing over the wrong lines, see the hips. Try to be more clean when constructing and pick more geometrical shapes for now. Cylinders and cuboids.

>> No.4204862
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>>4204853
What the other guy said but also add wrapping (contour) lines, on the thighs especially, those get your head in the right space when drawing to avoid flatness.

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>>4204857
Aren't cuboids just squares/rectangles at certain angles like the construction I posted?

>>4204862
I do this already. What did I do wrong?

>> No.4204883

>>4204879
Do it more like >>4201950 and try different poses and perspectives, not always the same frontal standing one. And if you are going for a frontal one at least fix your symmetry issues.

>> No.4204967

>>4204883
Are you referring to the cubes or the contour?

>> No.4205030

>>4204967
>>4204883
I realize it doesn't matter which of the two you meant. Will try this it then.

>> No.4205252

>>4204652
Was trying to make it so someone was lifting it to see his ass, probably should have done some floating hands doing such things

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Week 2 of Steve books and videos, didnt do much today but here is some

>> No.4205425
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>>4205424
I still do chicken scratches a lot defnitly need to work on that, also proportions still off. Gotta work harder !

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>>4200681
>>4202242

So I drew a demon girl this time. Gonna start that ctrl+paint guide tommorow and color it later

Pose and anatomy are memory only so how is it? Also I don't know how to get into figure drawing, I tried but I almost always can do decent poses from memory but I'm pretty slow. How should I start figure and gesture drawing? Is there some technique to learn or simply grind?

>> No.4205434
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4205434

put the second arm, some hands and some color too

>> No.4205448

>>4205447
>>4205447
>>4205447

new

>> No.4205455

criticism pls
i feel like i added too much detail to hand given how cartonish the rest of the drawing is and the hand itself looks kinda flat from the wrist i think

>> No.4205460

>>4204694
i dont think that it looks flat because of construction or anatomy, you just need to play with line thickness and shadows

>> No.4205463
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>>4205455
sorry the large image, here's a smaller one

>> No.4206719

>>4199822
Lol, dude you're just hurting yourself by doing this, do some studies, Yada yada

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>>4199769
Any recommendations on fundamentals to keep studying? I'm learning how to shade currently and anatomy/perspective are still something I'm trying to get down. Exercises/books/references greatly appreciated.

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