vent thread

[Anonymous No.4197032]

vent about how you hate art

[Anonymous No.4197034]

I fucking hate art, it ruined my life

[Anonymous No.4197035]

I hate art as well, especially the fact it raped my children and ate my wife.

[Anonymous No.4197037]

>>4197032
a Thread vented for this

[Anonymous No.4197049]

>>4197032
I don’t hate art, I hate artists

[Anonymous No.4197052]

>>4197032
A guy typing the word dicks gets more publicity that your art does so long as you're disinterested in socializing.

[Anonymous No.4197062]

Do I really have to learn the anatomical structure of humans and all the fucking bones and names and placement of muscles to draw the figure goddamn it's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.4197075]

>>4197032
I hate how drawing isn't linear, some days, drawing flows easily, other days it's struggle to finish it.

[Anonymous No.4197447]

How much does getting good/improvement mean to you?

I've been dedicating the last 10 months to drawing and improving my general funsimentals, but still have the mind set that my art isn't good enough to show around. But then I see other people with objective low skill levels get praise from normies, and it just makes me think. Is there really a point in improving my work?
Does proper anatomy, lighting, and backgrounds really matter if the general public doesn't understand nor care? Or does this mindset lead to more low quality art on the internet?

[Anonymous No.4197490]

I haven't been able to find courage to draw due to social and emotional problems and me not know what the fuck to do with them. I want a way to shut my emotions off and only use them for art because fuck people and their shit.

[Anonymous No.4197500]

I've made some request drawing for /v/ but I can't post it. 4channel is gay and tells me my IP has been blocked due to abuse. Hiroyuki was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.4197511]

> draw a little Gible fellow
> he's a little lopsided but cute
> try to color with nice markers
> the paper is shit
> it turns into my sleep paralysis demon
god fuck it all

[Anonymous No.4197517]

>>4197447
You won't feel confident in showing your art for some time, and don't worry it's normal, no one is comfortable in showing their art at first.

[Anonymous No.4197518]

>>4197062
Yes you do if you want them to look any good, it is hard and tiresome, and you don't really have to do it but everyone else is doing it so keep that in mind

[Anonymous No.4197527]

I drew some traps and used some cursed hashtag before knowing was the meaning and now everyone follows me for this.
The thing is : I want to draw girls on the long run, not traps.
Sadly, my girls stuff aren't really retweeted and now Twitter suggests me to more gay people. I don't want that. I can't fit into this community. I'm in a loop that really makes me feel uncomfortable.
I wanted to start a Patreon and all in the future, but I don't want to draw exclusively traps for a living.
Should I start another account? Force my girls drawing even if I will not gain visibility? Drawing isn't fun if I can't share it with someone. Drawing isn't fun if the only thing people like from me is what I don't want to do anymore.
I feel lonely in real life, but it is worse among all of these people.
I fucked up, guys.

[Anonymous No.4197528]

>>4197037
I love this meme

[Anonymous No.4197532]

>>4197032
Drawing is hard, and I think I'm probably too stupid to ever get good at it or anything else. I literally have no ability to do anything that requires discipline. I've tried learning to draw, I've tried learning piano, I've tried making videogames, I've tried working out. Everything is too hard, and once it stops being fun, I get intimidated, and overwhelmed, and just give up. It doesn't even feel like a matter of willpower though. It just feels like I'm coming to terms with the fact that I'm a useless idiot, who is only kidding myself with these stupid dreams.

Drawing is the one failure that really fucks me up though. I was always told I had talent as a kid. Everyone praised me. My parents, teachers, other kids in class. Now here I am finally taking it seriously, and realizing how much I suck at it, and how much time I wasted.

I want to get an IQ test done so I know once and for all if I'm a retard who should kill myself, or if I'm just mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.4197534]

>>4197032
>Downloading ctrlpaint collection
>Seeders: 0.1 ETA:2d5h
>Fuck, I can wait
>Russian morning time comes
>Seeders:0.666 ETA:41m45s
>Praise the Russians holy fuck based

Time for gains

[Anonymous No.4197537]

>>4197062
>Do I really have to learn the anatomical structure of humans and all the bones and ... placement of muscles to draw the figure
Yes
>Do I really have to learn the... names
No

[Anonymous No.4197548]

My artistic skill is deteriorating, I wish I am making it up. Some areas are stagnating others are getting worst. Someone put me out of my misery, you'll be doing me a favor.

[Anonymous No.4197549]

>>4197534
Nevermind, it's now stuck at eta of 3 days to 4 weeks

[Anonymous No.4197726]

I haven't drawn for a week. Should I delete my twitter account ? Well it only has a few followers.

[Anonymous No.4197735]

>>4197532
Try to make your master piece forget fondies and draw your idea
And improve by trying again and again.

[Anonymous No.4197743]

I progress ridiculously quick for the time I invest into art but don't spend much time drawing at all. It's like I'm so afraid of fucking up anything after years of general failure that I have to force myself to even try. I also feel guilt as if I betrayed the expectations myself and (I think) everyone else I know set for me.
Probably shouldn't treat art as this grand thing. But then, it's the only thing I really wanna do.

[Anonymous No.4197755]

>>4197726
why? draw and post another drawing. a week is nothing.

[Anonymous No.4197761]

>>4197447
>Being envious of normie praise
Art should be done for you to enjoy first and foremost. If that's the case improvement will follow naturally. This is the key to making it.

Normies flocking to you and sucking your dick is just a consequence not an objective.

[Anonymous No.4197765]

>have drawn consistently for 10 years

>BFA in illustration

>draw every day, minimum 6-8 hours

>still bad

im ngmi and its hurting me inside

[Anonymous No.4197800]

>>4197075
Try at least getting some good sleep. This isn't fucking gaming were you can shut your brain off and play. Just admit art is a serious task that needs a good rest before attempting.

[Anonymous No.4197803]

>>4197765
What do your average piece look like?

[Anonymous No.4197808]

>>4197527
Try and remember why you drew that first piece, and recapture that feeling.

[Anonymous No.4197829]

>>4197527
What's the cursed hashtag?

[Anonymous No.4197859]

>>4197803

[Anonymous No.4197860]

>>4197859
doesnt look half bad to me
and subject matter is pretty metal

[Anonymous No.4197883]

>>4197859
I like it too.

[Anonymous No.4197901]

>>4197032
>tfw drawing furry because the competition is so low
anyone saying furry is saturated and hard to get into can't draw for shit and is a complete beg

[Anonymous No.4197903]

>>4197901
What's your skill level?

[Anonymous No.4197907]

>>4197903
intermediate? I can draw from reference and have tons of original reference to make whatever I want and lineart and color.

[Anonymous No.4197908]

>>4197062
Only the major muscles and how they intersect with eachother and move depending of the pose of the figure.
Might take you a couple hundred hours of just grinding anatomy tho.

[Anonymous No.4197940]

>don't post for a week
>people start unfollowing
It was only one week jesus

[Anonymous No.4198176]

I made this 6 months ago. I've been on a steady decline since then. It's not even good and was copied from murasame blade, I hate that this is the peak of my skills

[Anonymous No.4198258]

>>4197859
that's pretty goo- oh that's painful

[Anonymous No.4198291]

>>4197859
I think if you do a lot of these "painterly" pieces that focus on big brush strokes and big patches of color then it can mask underlying problems with the structure of your forms and the layout of your values. Basically it can turn into a crutch used to avoid clarity. You can try going the other way and being a perfectionist for a while. Try doing only line drawings, or maybe you can try and do some realistic studies with value, but make all of your values as smooth/photorealistic as possible and hide your strokes. Challenge yourself to make your drawings look good while also being clean, and then lay your stylization on top of that.

[Anonymous No.4198299]

>>4198176
>when a coomer puts his habit to better use

[Anonymous No.4198316]

Im currently at uni rn for sth not related to art, the art education scene here is either:
a) a joke
b) limited
So i dont have any choice..i just wish i had the guts to drop out of uni and fully dedicate my time for art but im too much of a wuss to do it...

[Anonymous No.4198324]

>>4198316
Same boat as you bro. We should just stop half-assing two things and whole-ass one instead to focus on the other.

[Anonymous No.4198351]

>>4197808
You are responding to the wrong anon, I think. But I'll consider this for my future drawings.

>>4197829
sissy
Well, I should have lurk more before using it (something I do almost everytime I find a new term) but I didn't. I often saw this posted on Tumblr (before it died) and 4chan when people were talking about traps so I assumed it was just another part of the kink but... wew. I was kinda wrong and got in touch with the wrong part of the community.
Plus, I discovered that the way my characters talked could have been mistaken for "sissycaptions". I wanted to give them more personnality so, I tried to think about what kind of dirty stuff they'd had in their mind and... without even noticing I really gave the impression I was part of the community. Some mistakes and unfortunate coincidences lead me to this. I wanted to have fun and share fun and even maybe make some friends but, Christ, what the hell is that?

[Anonymous No.4198354]

>very suddenly get obsessed with sculpting
>every video I watch is about it
>spend a week uselessly fucking about with sculpey and plastic kits
>sober up and realize I wasted my fucking time and money on it.
I'm so fucking pissed off.
I say I "sobered up" but I can't seem to let go of the plastic kits when I should be drawing

>>4198316
>>4198324
my god do I relate, but at least I'm getting paid to be here and I heard that the company can't force me to work

[Anonymous No.4198360]

>>4198354
why are you being so negative about it? it's ok to explore other creative methods outside drawing, if you like sculpting then sculpt. i went to an event organized by CDPR and there were some sculptors who were selling their (very cool) sculpies and there was a very cool sculpting workshop.

btw peter han came to the workshop as well and i was somewhat disappointed with his final sculpture. but he was nice and funny and spent a lot of time drawing with anyone who was up for it

[Anonymous No.4198361]

>>4197859
you're not developing because you're not doing personal work from imagination. what you posted is simply a study and shouldnt be considered original work by you at all - i mean, you can't put it in your portfolio.

[Anonymous No.4198394]

There are no jobs about video games or art in general where I live. I am socially awkward (and so I get anxiety when outside) but I have to get a job. I try to earn money with my drawings, and yet the more I draw, the farthest my goal seems to be.
I tried to go to the only artschool we have here and it was a disaster. Nothing or no one to learn from (there were time when we had no instructors for months), no people to hang out with, it almost seemed like a very bad joke. I thought that, at least, I would met some people to work with on small indie projects but I couldn't be more wrong. After years and years, I think that thing broke me.
My place is dead and I don't want to die with it but hell, I don't know if I can get out of this.

[Anonymous No.4198442]

>>4198394
>My place is dead and I don't want to die with it but hell, I don't know if I can get out of this.
You seem to have a working Internet connection

[Anonymous No.4198488]

>>4197532
life is a struggle, bad things are going to happen, stand up, scream internally "I WILL FUCKING WIN, DO YOU HEAR ME BITCH, I WILL FUCKING WINNNNNNNN"! Everyday.

[Anonymous No.4198502]

>>4198442
Yeah, and I'm trying to use it well, but it's gonna take some time get results and see if yes or no I can make a living out of it. Sadly during that time, I don't know what's going to happen and if I will be able to continue to draw. I currently live with my mom but that can't last for too long.

[Anonymous No.4198505]

>be me
>working okay job but with low pay
>decide fuck it, i can draw alright, im gonna be an artist
>quit the job
>time to grind
>buy high-end pc and cintiq
>procrastinating
>time pass, zero progress
>becoming more neet with each day
>descend into insanity has begone
>depressed all the time have no energy
>constantly lie to father (yes i live with my father) about my progress thinking i will definitely turn the tide... tomorrow
>tide never turns
>4 years pass by
>alienated all my friends
>sometime look on social at their progress, they all happy and successful
>lost all energy
>money gone
>no progress
>get in the fight with father yesterday. real one
>cry and scream at myself like a pathetic bitch i am
>have no idea how and why to live on
>im 32 now
>pretty fucking suicidal rn, but scared of it shitless
>making this stupid post on rainbow imageboard for anime-girls
look at me and laugh

[Anonymous No.4198512]

>>4198505
>look at me and laugh
I see a bit of myself in that, anon
I know you likely won't take the advice of an anonymous fag in that yellow chink image board but you gotta force change in your life any way you can to get out of that shit

[Anonymous No.4198521]

>made an instagram a month ago
>0 followers
>don't know how it works
>afraid to link it anywhere so people don't think it as attention whoring

[Anonymous No.4198526]

>>4198512
>I know you likely won't take the advice of an anonymous fag in that yellow chink image board but you gotta force change in your life any way you can to get out of that shit
it always sounds so easy. just do it they say. but it's to little to late.

[Anonymous No.4198536]

>>4198521
the point of social media is attention whoring, kohai. pyblog

[Anonymous No.4198539]

>>4198536
Anon, I don't understand

[Anonymous No.4198546]

>>4198539
you new or something?
>kohai: weebspeak, opposite of senpai (senior)
>pyblog: derivative of pyw; means "post your blog" aka your social media

[Anonymous No.4198550]

>>4198546
nigga, what you saying

[Anonymous No.4198551]

>>4198526
Never said it was easy. Maybe not anyone can do it. I know I'm doing it, which is why I bothered replying to your post at all.
Can't tell if it's too late, but then there's plenty of stories about people finding success even past 40, 50yo. Change something now. Put some order in your drawers, go draw something, don't bother replying to this post, just do something.

[Anonymous No.4198610]

>>4198550
Retards deserve noose

[Anonymous No.4198617]

>>4198505
This could have been me, except my breakdown happened 1.5 years instead of 4 and I managed to get my old job back.
If you are not already making money off of art then DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOB. DO NOT DO IT. Got gud first, start making money off art, THEN quit the day job when your income is already guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.4198622]

>>4197032
>draw porn during November
>people reply with "here goes my nofap"
>still participating in NNN myself
Weak should fear the strong

[Anonymous No.4198627]

>>4197075
I hate it too.

You can study physics/math/etc. very easily, all you need to do is force yourself to do it and set goals like solving ten problems or reading
two chapters a day.
That doesn't work with drawing. No matter how hard you force yourself to draw, it either flows or doesn't flow. Makes you feel so powerless and not in control of what you do.

[Anonymous No.4198630]

>>4198505
you put too much pressure on yourself by quitting your job. can you get it back somehow? like others said, until you can esure a steady income with your art dont make such decisions.

also holy shit, living on your own would really help you. your whole mental development as a person is 100% hindered by being dependent on your dad. get a job again, find a small place, maybe you can share with a roommate, youll start appreciating small mundane things in life again and find place for art in your heart again.

[Anonymous No.4198644]

i have one fucking letter left in this piece and i can't figure it out to save my life. fuck art.

[Anonymous No.4198660]

>>4197062
Look at it this way: Matt Groening never did, and that motherfucker made the Simpsons.

[Anonymous No.4198666]

>>4198627
It sounds like you've never done STEM at a high level. Professional mathematicians don't sit down and do "10 problems a day". Sometimes they're stuck for years on a difficult puzzle and have no idea when, if ever, the inspiration of a brilliant idea will strike to help them solve it. With things like art you just start doing original work earlier in the learning process so you feel that difficulty earlier, that's all.

[Anonymous No.4198669]

>>4197527
Stop chasing twitter's approval, and you'll stop feeling like twitter's approval is your success. If you don't like doing something, stop fucking doing it and do something you like instead. You are your own master.

[Anonymous No.4198675]

>>4198627
Fucking, this.

For the most part, every line I put down wont need second thought, and I can just breeze through constructing figures. But when you feel that doubt and frustration, it hits so god damn hard.

[Anonymous No.4198677]

is there a kind of lead that doesn't fucking smudge the instant I brush the back of my hand over it? sick of my sketchbook looking like a goddamn mess

[Anonymous No.4198693]

>>4198677
the harder the pencil, the less it will smudge, but it will also be less pleasant to work with. try F, its like a compromise between B and H.

[Anonymous No.4198701]

>>4197032
I broke my pen with my elbow and they're pretty pricey.

[Anonymous No.4198707]

>>4198394
>I am socially awkward (and so I get anxiety
Stopped reading because you need someone to tell you this: Literally EVERYONE gets anxious for one reason or another. Stop acting like you're unique for experiencing something we've all been experiencing for the whole of human existence. Sometimes you have to sack up and do shit you don't like.

[Anonymous No.4198715]

>>4198693
thanks, i'll see if my local office store has any F, they seem to only stock HB pencils

[Anonymous No.4198733]

I can't learn. I'm totally incapable of improving or understanding anything.

[Anonymous No.4198806]

I just wanna draw cute anime girls for the rest of my life, but my family needs money and i hate my job

[Anonymous No.4198943]

>>4198299
Kek

[Anonymous No.4198979]

>>4198316
don't do it

[Anonymous No.4198982]

>>4198707
(Not the person you responded to)
Yeah having occasional anxiety in response to stressful moments is normal
But vomiting in response to being outside walking through Walmart on an average day, or panicking suddenly and randomly because your brain decided to tell you the world is about to end RIGHT NOW so you're running around like a madman, sobbing, and begging for forgiveness isn't in anyway normal and I cannot function without my medication

[Anonymous No.4198984]

>overdue zine piece
>decided to challenge myself and fill it with hands
>overdue
I don't want to do this anymore

[Anonymous No.4198986]

>>4198360
I'm negative about it because I can only half-ass it
There's not enough hours in a day for me to study both sculpting and drawing/painting, and I prefer my 2D skills over my 3D

I can see the value/fun in it, just wish I had spare time to flesh it out
>>4198627
studying math and mechanics really let me appreciate how many geniuses are out there
like the other anon said, the first steps are laid out by textbooks (i.e. other people), but after that it's just as hard

[Anonymous No.4199343]

i dont learn, i never practice, and all i do is shitpost after telling my self "im gonna draw all day today".
doesn't help that im failing most of my uni courses because i procrastinate half the time.
i would like to sleep and never wake up at this point desu

[Anonymous No.4199353]

>>4199343
are you the retard who made that other thread and keeps making shitty bait question threads all the time?

[Anonymous No.4199354]

>>4198505
>sometime look on social at their progress, they all happy and successful

Social media only highlights the "good things" people like to show off and even then it's superficial most of the time. Don't let a social media site affect your well being.

[Anonymous No.4199359]

>>4198707
Learn to read then.
I'm not here to justify myself, and if you think that telling people to "man up" is the way to go, well I've got news for you : it doesn't fix anything.

Even though it is, for me, not as harsh as for this anon >>4198982 you can probably understand that some people get way more anxiety than the average "sweating profusely". And maybe understand that it's not only about me. When you drive and almost hit some kids because of stress, you really don't want to go out again and be a danger for others.

[Anonymous No.4199361]

>>4198505
Hit the Gym, go hire a Chad or a Stacy if you have to so they can train and put up with your autism. Perform weight lifting exercises such as Squats or Deadlifts and have your body start producing some testosterone. Eat right, avoid the carbonated Jew, and start consuming some Kombucha to please the fungal lords.

[Anonymous No.4199369]

I know i need to use other brushes to render instead of just hard round and soft round. but I am too scared to deviate.

[Anonymous No.4199434]

Lent my brother my tablet today. He doesn't know I still draw in secret.
>Can I borrow your tablet
>no i need- i mean sure.
After two hours of use. I go and see if he's done. The tablet is unplugged and he is watching tv.
>so you're finished? I'll just put this back in my room now.
>actually I'm not, just taking a break. This tablet is pretty fun. I'll just leave it in hear for the time being.
>oh...

What do i do here? How do I ask for my tablet back to practice without giving out my secret? If I take it back he'll get suspicious and ask what I need it for.

[Anonymous No.4199440]

>>4199434
It's yours, you don't need a reason to take it back you bitch

[Anonymous No.4199469]

>>4199434
Why the hell are you being so secretive about drawing? Unless you're drawing some weird cheese pizza shit then there's no reason to be ashamed or anything.

I'll write you a script: "Hey bro, I've been trying out drawing and I'd like to practice so I'd really like my tablet back."

If you're really chickenshit you can pull the "It's my tablet, I paid for it, give to back NOW" but it'll probably make him more suspicious than if you just came forward with your hobby.

[Anonymous No.4199478]

>>4197032
I hate how I can't figure out if something's gonna look good from the initial stages of construction, yet. I'm pretty sure this is a beg problem but it grinds my gears. Like, I can take two identical constructions and then draw a shitty and a p good drawing on different days. I wish I'm at a level where each step I take I know will take me in the right direction. But instead it feels like I'm flailing in the dark.

Also I hate how emulating the process of great artists doesn't reault in the same great art even when I'm literally copying what they're doing, just because my hands are fucking stupid. Does anybody else feel like their hands are autistic?

[Anonymous No.4199480]

>>4199469
And if he asks you to show him what you're drawing here's the script "oh I don't save my work haha I'm too bad but I enjoy it still because it helps me relax. Thanks for understanding."

[Anonymous No.4199491]

>>4199478
Sounds like the problem is your brain, not your hands. Just wait for about 500 hours of practice and you'll start feeling more confident. You'll still be shit, but...

[Anonymous No.4199507]

>>4199491
Oh yeah obv. it's my brain lol I'm just saying there's an extreme gap between what I can do with my hands and the theory I know.

[Anonymous No.4199685]

>>4199480
I dunno. The last time he saw me draw was like 3 years ago, and that's when I was really bad. I would practice my anatomy and figure drawing and my family would respond "oh god anons drawing naked people again." or "why are all your characters white?" Ignorant shit like that.

And now that I sometime actually do draw lewd shit, it's best for me to keep it hidden to save me headache of dealing with ignorance.

[Anonymous No.4199741]

>>4199440
This. In case you reaally need an excuse: say you are playing osu with it.

[Anonymous No.4199796]

>>4197032
i fucking hate how hard it is for me to draw faces
fucking hell i just cant see it and put it onto a paper
i keep starting loomis over and over again and im getting nowhere
i genuinely wouldnt know where to start with a figure you give me without feeling like a fraud

[Anonymous No.4199819]

>>4198660
yeah he drew every individual episode while wrestling a bear.

[Anonymous No.4199867]

>>4197032

My faces look like shit, but I refuse to draw anime.

[Anonymous No.4199895]

>>4197032
No matter how much I read and reference I cannot still after 3 years paint a decent portrait.

[Anonymous No.4199921]

>>4199796
Study the skull, it helps a lot
there are things you understand when you draw the skull like the placement and size of the eyes relative to the orbits
A lot about drawing faces wrong is misjudging the relative depth of the features

[Anonymous No.4199934]

>>4199867
It doesn't look half bad but you should read about line economy

[Anonymous No.4199990]

STILL CONSTANT PRESSURE about getting a job from parents
but it is too scary and difficult

and I'm not near getting art comissions
I don't wanna draw porn
(not saying my skill is there either)

[Anonymous No.4200020]

>>4197500
go to a shop with WiFi to post it

[Anonymous No.4200056]

>draw since I was a kid (am 30)
>am pretty good at it
>can't make any money off of it though. Everytime I team up with someone for a "project" it gets cancelled halfway through because the other party loses interest
>recently though, there was great opportunity for a french comic-book saga (great long story, though a bit confusing)
>partner had been writing his scenario for 10 years (he's a pharmacist and is stacked but like to write stories)
>decide to dedicate all my efforts to make it work, draw all day everyday for a year
>we have an amazing portfolio ready. We send it to dozen of editing houses for a start. For once I'm confident my work will pay off
>we receive some pretty positive responses. They all like the visuals (my work) but want him to rewrite a bit of his story, make it a little less confusing.
>motherfucker doesn't want to do anything more and abandons the project
>have no job and pretty much no money

I'm about to just "fuck it", and try to half-ass some porn and make pervs addicted to it. Fuck this shit

[Anonymous No.4200075]

>>4200056
hey are you EU? if you have a discord I'd like to hit you up, I'd like to exchange perspective on this

[Anonymous No.4200080]

>>4200056
post your art

[Anonymous No.4200085]

>>4200075
Am EU. Don't have discord though. What do you want though? Are you a french pharmacist?

[Anonymous No.4200098]

>>4200080
An example of said project. Believe it or not this was a couple of months after buying my first tablet & starting to learn Photoshop. It was fun at least.

[Anonymous No.4200106]

>>4200085
I don't have discord either
>What do you want though?
I wanted to ask you a little bit about publishing, what's the situation so far etc. Right now I'm grinding a lot and I'm leaving comics to the side but I'm hearing pretty bad things about the state of comics and I'm also not sure where to publish. It's a bit too detailed to talk about here. If it doesn't bother you too much to have a chat send me a contact here maybe (it's just a temp mail)
[e-mail]
(I am not a French pharmacist)

[Anonymous No.4200111]

I hate how even attempting to start drawing every day is so depressing.

[Anonymous No.4200118]

>>4200106
Sent you a response I think. Did you receive anything?

[Anonymous No.4200147]

>>4200118
yes ty

[Anonymous No.4200173]

>>4200118
did you get the reply?

[Anonymous No.4200186]

>>4199867
well it's clear as day any misconceptions you had about anime were just that. "that it's easier" you're actually just a retard, your fucking figure sucks balls and no anime head would make this look good.

[Anonymous No.4200329]

>>4199685
Let those comments roll off of you like water. They don't mean anything, let them think what they want.

You don't have to show your family the lewd shit, in fact I'd advise against it. Draw the lewds in private, have a backup image ready that you can change tabs to immediately in case your family walks in.

If your family wants to see your work, create some decoy art that the average person would find acceptable. Like studies of trees and basic looking dragons, stuff like that. When you draw your actual studies, also draw a few decoy pieces here and there to keep up the illusion that that's what you actually draw. Keep the decoys in a separate folder.

[Anonymous No.4200335]

>>4200098
Did the pharmacist pay you?

[Anonymous No.4200339]

>>4199685
If this is all true, there is something wrong with your relationship with your family. Either you need to communicate with them more and work something out, or they're incredibly stupid, in which case just leave asap.

[Anonymous No.4201229]

:(

[Anonymous No.4201230]

>tfw art you followed either blocked me or deleted his own account.

[Anonymous No.4201252]

I got addicted to video games. Back then I was depressed, I get a lot of ideas and all I do is draw.
But now all I want to do is play video games. Drawing is boring as fuck. Audiobooks and music doesn't help anymore.
I need to draw because I do like it. Also the money.

[Anonymous No.4201632]

I have such cripplingly low self-esteem I don't even think I should fix it anymore. I have just accepted that my worth is in the negatives. I feel like my drawings are nothing short of littering the environment.

[Anonymous No.4201636]

>>4197032
I dont hate art, i love it actually. One day im going to be very good at it. I dont want to be famous i just want to be good

:)
Take the Bloomer pill

[Anonymous No.4201662]

>>4197032
I was so excited to go to this gaming art program at my local college. I thought I was going to be making cool 3D models for video games and shit. So during the first class our teacher told us how she made tiny background elements in a football game and other things. How awful the work environment was. And how spergy and weird my classmates were... besides myself of course. Come to find out, that everything I wanted to learn to do. I could've just done myself at home for free. Our course syllabus was some guys free fucking tutorial blog. I dropped out after 2 weeks. Went into a depressive spiral and never drew again. I just want that spark back man, I want to have fun and enjoy making art but all I see is my own mistakes and hate everything I do. Fucking why.

[Anonymous No.4201687]

>>4201662
>I could've just done myself at home for free
>never drew again
If it's that simple then just get to it
>>4201252
what are you even playing? no videogamr is fun anymore

[Anonymous No.4201705]

>>4201687
Sorry, my taste in video games are too niche and it seems like you play a lot meanwhile I don't.
I don't want to be told I have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.4201712]

>>4197032
>finish an art piece that I'm really proud of
>start working on a new one the next day
>look back at the previous art piece and immediately fucking hate it
why am I like this

[Anonymous No.4201724]

fucking mods

[Anonymous No.4201740]

>>4201712
We're literally the same anon.
I'm already good and I don't even feel anything If I ever get a lot of likes or a few. It's just feels like business.

[Anonymous No.4201815]

>>4199867
I don't understand, why do you say you hate anime every time you post?

[Anonymous No.4201826]

>>4200098
That's pretty fucking good anon, better then 90% of /ic/ thats for damn sure. Like the other anon said, should of got the pharmacist to pay you. If you can make shit of consistent quality like that, there will be tons of would-be comic writers willing to pay you.

[Anonymous No.4201829]

>>4199867
Your style screams generic westerner who tries to be creative but is not creative.

[Anonymous No.4201958]

I forgot how to draw for fun

[Anonymous No.4202017]

>>4201705
>seems like you play a lot
where did you get that?
>no videogame is fun anymore
I stopped LONG ago, because frankly it's just boring.
Only games I'd play are out of obligation, like Yoko Taro's work (and even then I don't go to the autistic lengths needed for some of the endings)
>>4201712
good, as long as you're judging it objectively, it means your eyes are improving
>>4201815
He needs to cling to some kind of identity, and tries to rationalize his bad art by identifying his path (non-anime) as more difficult
>>4201958
find something that inspires you, something just off-the-wall.

[Anonymous No.4202019]

>revisit old youtube tutorials out of nostalgia
>top ten digital art mistakes
>"Using a mouse instead of a tablet"
>See a bunch of coping comments
> 'Its 100 percent valid to use you're phone to draw'
> 'any one who says you need a tablet to be a proffesinal is gate keeping'
> 'im to poor for digital :('
>See one of them link their insta as an example of what you can do with phone art
>Check it out cause I wanna see their delusinal beg shit
>private
>follow it
> My invite gets accepted
>Look at art
>About to unfollow
>inturpurted by 'X artist hasn't posted in a long time, check them out!'
>artist made a big 'omg thank you guys for still supporting me' post
>Can't unscribe now
>going to be stuck with edgy teen doodles in my feed because I'd feel like a dirt bag unfollowing
To make it worse I'm pretty sure I followed the wrong artist.

[Anonymous No.4202056]

I get so excited about drawing that my autistic ticks get triggered (usually is jus finger wingling )


Still feels good

[Anonymous No.4202058]

I recall a crack adicct saying that no matter how many years they've been clean, no matter how much they cleaned up their life, and no matter how many interventions they went through a small part of the would still want crack.
That's what I've felt like avout IC. I was 1 month IC free with coldtuekey, but I was stuck waiting with my phone and so broke down and browsed IC. Fuck.I dont wanna get trapped in this black hole

[Anonymous No.4202087]

>>4202056
Did you bite yourself?

[Anonymous No.4202098]

I want to get better so badly, even though i know i am improving, i think. I want to be able to get to on similar plane as the people i admire but in the back of my mind i keep telling myself that i am a failure and never will be able to get to that place.

[Anonymous No.4202121]

>>4202087
aperemtly,idk ive had ticks when focused excited since i were a loli. lyfe is hard for special needs la creaturas

[Anonymous No.4202126]

>>4202121
18+ website

[Anonymous No.4202129]

>have some issues with anxiety
>feel overwhelmed at one point of a drawing because I'll fuck it up
>have rarely ever finished anything

[Anonymous No.4202130]

>>4202126
im old enough to drink in muttland fml

[Anonymous No.4202134]

>>4197447
>still have the mind set that my art isn't good enough to show around
Start showing sooner than you're comfortable, if not here, at least on a website you control or on Twitter/streaming services

You'll get feedback, you'll start getting work, you'll build a community of fans and supporters who want to see you improve, and you'll gain a reputation for having been in the space for a longer time as a professional, which bolsters your credibility for interested buyers.

The worse thing is putting in multiple years to get good, and when you're finally kinda, nobody really gives a shit about you because you're still a nobody who wasn't networking/ready for their big break.

[Anonymous No.4202135]

>>4202121
What's your mother language?

[Anonymous No.4202141]

>>4202135
multitasking

[Anonymous No.4202148]

Too fucking bored to do anything. Too bored to finish. And I wanna read a fuck ton of books before I actually finish anything.
>>4202121
>ive had ticks when focused excited since i were a loli
>since i were a loli
Guessing you have other disorders as well?

[Anonymous No.4202155]

>>4202148
nuh actuall =D


just tismos ouo

[Anonymous No.4202189]

>>4202155
Stop.

[Anonymous No.4202200]

low key quick info

there are 2 Polish girls active on /ic/ rn

[Anonymous No.4202202]

>>4202056
>>4202121
>>4202155
peak /ic/ autism.
>>4202200
Tell them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4202212]

>>4202202
imhonored

[Anonymous No.4202235]

meet japanese girl in nyc. we both carry sketch pads.

>hey you draw?

yea thats my hobby too!

>hobby? no, that my job-aru.

cool, do you have an ig?

>yes prease forrow me.

girl makes enough money to live alone in manhattan from her art. must be really good.

>look through her ig

she traces. every single picture on her page is traced and poorly colored. sometimes she mixes pictures from different perspectives and it looks horrible.

>she's not deceiving people. they actually pay her to trace their photos poorly on purpose.

i work 2 jobs, have a masters degree and draw from memory every single day. can barely afford to live in nj. no one likes my art. have never made a penny from it.

/vent

[Anonymous No.4202249]

>Can't draw for shit
>Find some eastern artist to draw for me
>They charge a fucking arm and a leg
>Fucking $300 for a colored sketch

Damn and I thought college was a scam.

[Anonymous No.4202252]

>>4202235
Build an audience

[Anonymous No.4202256]

>>4202249

is it weird that I wanna do comissions but I actually don't understand why people want them?
like I why would I pay someone to draw me something

[Anonymous No.4202277]

>>4202252
>just be good.
yea wow i never thought of that.

[Anonymous No.4202279]

>>4202256
haha ive been thinking about this for so long. like this is real some stupid budgeting for me. although the most common type i got so far was a gift, like for a wedding, birthday etc, that i can understand. but i had like 3 just for the personal use of client and i have no idea why they paid me or wanted it in the first place. id never pay someone to draw anything for me. but i do buy notebooks and tshirts with cool art so theres that

[Anonymous No.4202282]

>>4202256
depends what it is. most of the time its probably porn. if not, i mean.. maybe like a sketch to give someone to build a prototype or a product? or ... if you're writing a story but can't illustrate. i think there are a lot of reasons to pay someone to draw something for you. one i see a lot of on DA is people who design characters but cant draw and then the artist will take the shit sketch and make your design look professional. i dont understand what you dont understand.

[Anonymous No.4202284]

>>4197075
This so much...

Also, I don't hate art. I only hate my own art.

[Anonymous No.4202339]

>>4199353
no

[Anonymous No.4202352]

>>4197743
holy crap, dude, I relate to this so much

[Anonymous No.4202391]

>>4197743
post your work

[Anonymous No.4202518]

>>4199867
Your faces look weird because you're mirroring your drawings. Stop mirroring your drawings and you already remove one level of uncanny. Also try to draw her in a different angle.

[Anonymous No.4202559]

I'm one week in, giving myself 5 years to get good. It bothers me a lot thar everyone that draws is trying to make it their main source of income. Everyone online Ive talked to about drawing acts like a fucking jews.

[Anonymous No.4202577]

>>4202559
This is art now. Everyone wants to make a marketable product, artistic intent isn't even in the back of their heads

[Anonymous No.4202597]

>>4202559
There's nothing wrong with monetizing art. Drawing all day without a job is a paradise.
Since you're only 1 week in you don't know shit how boring art becomes even after you get good.

[Anonymous No.4202601]

>>4202597
Ahaha you're one of those trendhoppers are you? I've been drawing for years and I only love it more.
Enjoy your money I guess.

[Anonymous No.4202615]

>>4202601
>Ahaha you're one of those trendhoppers are you?
Wrong.
>I've been drawing for years and I only love it more. Enjoy your money I guess.
Enjoy drawing bad and your art not being shown to people. You feeling good about yourself is the only thing that matters.
Also wagecucking it ;)

[Anonymous No.4202635]

>>4202615
pyw
but you won't

[Anonymous No.4203542]

>become decent at anatomy
>start with clothing and wrinkles
>it's like a new kind of anatomy just more diverse and complicated

[Anonymous No.4203792]

>grow up poor. have no toys. only paper and pencils.
>dad's alcoholism makes me a fucked up depressed kid.
>have no friends.
>end up living with 85 year old non english speaking grandfather whose house is unchanged since the 60s.
>have no friends.
draw better than everyone in the school.
>be at high school level in 4th grade.
>never get offered any opportunities or scholarships.
>8th grade. so far ahead of the class that i just help the teacher instead of doing the assignments but receive A's. Think I can parley this into an internship or something.
>Final assignment write a 5 page paper on randomly selected artist.
>Receive artist I have never heard of.
>It's 2001, I do not have internet access.
>Local library has one paragraph in one encyclopedia about this author.
>Expand this to 1 page.
>Ask teacher for advice. Explain predicament.
>Teacher is unsympathetic despite admitting she also never heard of the artist.
>Fluff out report to 1.5 pages of filler and line spacing. Do my best to recreate awesome copy of only painting by the artist I could find any record of.
>Receive F on report because it wasn't long enough.
>Graduation night
>"And the student who receives the award for best student in the subject of art is..."
>The valedictorian of our graduating class who can't draw for shit and won the award for literally every subject that year and was the best athlete.
>Everyone I know asks me why I didn't get the award.
>Hundreds of people in auditorium whispered and asking.
>Don't let them see you cry Anon, be strong.

>Be me, first day of high school.
>First period. One of 3 kids in mechanical drawing class. Other 2 kids are stoner seniors who are only there for credit and need easy credits to graduate.
>Teacher pulls me aside.
>Um Anon, you can't be in this class because this year there is a new rule that your graduating class has to take foreign language to graduate.
>But I don't care about foreign languages. I want to be an artist.
continued...

[Anonymous No.4203800]

>>4203792
>Sorry Anon, but no one fucking cares what you want. The state of New Jersey is full of immigrants from south america now, so you have to study a foreign language.
>Day 2 of high school show up to mechanical drawing class.
9/11 happens and I watch the skyline burn from 11 miles away.
>Day 3
>No seriously Anon, I've unenrolled you. Go to your guidance counselor and pick a language.
>Go to guidance counselor.
>Have you decided a language Anon? We have French, Italian, Latin, Spanish or Japanese.

Give me the Japanese.

>Dominate class.
>win awards in nationwide oratorical competitions.
>Win scholarships to study abroad.
>Study abroad.
>Love this country and culture and language.
>Anon, have you decided what you want to go to college for yet?
>I was thinking of getting back into drawing. Maybe architecture, or industrial design.
>Anon, if you go to school for drawing, you're going to end up with so much debt, and you're going to wind up sitting on a bench in central park drawing pictures of tourists for $5 a piece if you're lucky.
You should major in Japanese.
continued...

[Anonymous No.4203822]

>>4203800
>Plus if your major in your hobby, it's going to ruin it for you.
>What you should do is study Japanese at the college level. It will be great for business.
>You can draw in your off time after work. But at least this way you'll have the money to have a comfortable life that gives you that extra time.

Well I don't know about a major in Japanese but I definitely want to go back there.

>Anon, you can only apply to 3 schools because we're poor as shit and $50 bucks for the application fee is really gonna break the bank.

>apply to 3 schools.
>Get rejected by rutgers even though i know for a fact people with lower SATs and class ranks got in.
>Get accepted to Penn State but the wrong campus and no financial aid with 55K a year out of state tuition.
>Get accepted to Smaller but better school in the fucking ghetto with a lot of scholarships. Go to smaller school.
>Before applying, this school told me they had an exchange program with a sister university in Tokyo and one of the best Japanese programs in the country.

Picking my classes
>Ghetto black guidance counselor tells me you can't be an undecided major. also tells me you can't study Japanese if that isn't your major.
Well I guess it's decided then.
>Find out there is no exchange program.
>Find out my Japanese is at a much higher level than the highest level the school offers.
>Decide to make the best of my freshman year.
>Decide to apply directly to a school in Tokyo as an international student.
>Get accepted. am able to study abroad as a Sophomore which is unprecedented.

>Try to have a nice year abroad. Gone for 2 seconds, my cat dies. My grandfathers gets dementia, my dad's drug problem spirals out of control, my mom leaves and divorces him.
continued...

[Anonymous No.4203835]

>>4203822
>come back to visit halfway through the year.
Day 1 get into fight with biker chick who broke into my dad's house.
>Feel homeless because I don't feel safe in my own house.
>Stay wit friend instead.
>Go to dad's for one night, have friend over to play video games.
>Upstairs neighbor calls police for no fucking reason and tells them we murdered someone.
>Get detained in my own house and suspected of murder while police search my house.
>Go back to Japan.
I fucking love this peaceful wonderful country.
>6 months later my visa is running out.
But I respect their laws so I leave when my time is up because I don't want to be an illegal immigrant.
>Come back to american home university.
>Mom pressuring me to start working as soon as possible.
>All of my credits transfered back towards Japanese major core credits. No sense in changing majors now. Studying graduate level courses but still bored out of my mind.
>Finally graduate college.
Joke is on me, Japanese major isn't a real degree.
You can't get a job with that.
>Work for the Census. Get threatened with one too many pitbulls in Newark. also realize the numbers are completely fabricated.
>Move back in with Mom and new husband.
>Get job at disgusting warehouse to try to pay back debt.

>Work in shithole warehouse for 4 years. Literal crackheads laugh at how stupid I am and call me "college boy"
>My job is to scrape rat shit and dead fried on roaches off industrial machinery with windex and rusty razorblades.
>Fall into severe depression.
>Find inspirational podcasts.
>Get in shape.
>Finally get cute hapa girlfriend.
>Interview with lots of companies.
>Finally get a white collar job at a Japanese company.
>Find out it's a scam and literally work in a freezer with fish guts.
>Get harrassed daily by racist Korean.
>Complain to HR.
>HR tells me you can't be racist to white people.
continued...

[Anonymous No.4203848]

>>4203835
>>4203835
>>4203835
>Become completely disillusioned with Japan.
>Realize this is the dark secret. It's the work culture.
>Realize this is why all my friends in Japan were studying English.
I have wasted my life on a lie.
Breakup with bipolar hapa girlfriend.

>It's 2016
>Vote Trump. Regret nothing. fuck Japs.Literally go on tour of Asia where I fuck whores in every country for 3 months.
>Return to america, lie about warehouse job and exaggerate. Get job doing tech support help desk for American company.
>Best paying least stress I've ever had.
>Finally pay off debt after 7 years living in mom's basement.
>Move out.
>Get really fucking depressed and have a few meltdowns getting too high.
See therapist.
>Any friends I ever had abandoned me because of Trump btw.

>Decide to start drawing again. Find IC.

>Draw everyday for 4 months straight.

>Depression reaches apex. Do absolutely nothing but get fat for 3 months.

>Be me today.

>Somebody at work asks me why millenials picked such stupid majors.

>3 different people tell me it's Monday even though I didn't ask.

I don't have a single thing to post here because I don't like any of my drawings. Nothing.

[Anonymous No.4203853]

>>4203848
post one anyways to make up for the blogging streak

[Anonymous No.4203854]

>>4198505
Hey, at least you had a job. Clocking in on my 5 years as a NEET here. No, I am not proud.

[Anonymous No.4203866]

>>4203853
fine

[Anonymous No.4203868]

>>4203853
i want to make her eat every one of those cigarettes as a punishment for taking retarded pictures

[Anonymous No.4203882]

>>4203848
you know all of this made it really easy to find out who you are irl and that half of this story is your projection and coping right?

[Anonymous No.4203895]

>>4203882
I didn't say anything that isn't true so while I disagree with you, I'm not worried about it.

[Anonymous No.4203918]

everyday i draw and work at my art. i've been drawing since a kid and yet i can't get any work.
at best i get someone asking for fetish art or someone asking me to draw them something so they can resell it for their client? i don't understand.
whats fucking sad is that my dad makes a living off of his art yet somehow i can't do the same.
i can't wait to get carpal tunnel and normal hobbies.

[Anonymous No.4204051]

I used to be somewhat talented at least enough to post fanart on tumblr even though my fundamentals were shite I could draw things that made people happy, I was working towards making comics, then I got to art school and became depresso and procrastinated everything so all my assignments had to be rushed 24 hour all nighters that looked like shit, gave myself carpal tunnel so I can barely hold a pencil for more than 5 minutes and I dropped out. I haven't drawn regularly for 5 years and my skills are deteriorating so bad it makes me wanna kms. All I was doing all my life was gearing myself up to be a cartoonist or an illustrator or a graphic designer so now I have no other aspirations or hobbies I could make money from. I want to get back into drawing but it's painful and I can't even manage to draw a human being now and I get frustrated

[Anonymous No.4204121]

Just feels like there's no place to talk about sculpting
/ic/ doesn't give a fuck and /3/ is for CG

Hell, even tutorials/demos (even books) about sculpting are hard to find. Everything is just "Watch me make an ugly, hairless creature/alien/monster", like nobody gives a fuck about making appealing things.

[Anonymous No.4204152]

>>4197032
>Be me
>Get a day off
>Excited to spend the day drawing, almost finished my current piece
>Cut to me shaving
>Somehow get my motherfucking fingernail caught in the razor
>Tear a motherfucking third of my fingernail off
>Also slice the everliving shit out of my knuckle
>Cannot fucking move my finger without experiencing CBT-tier agony
>I can't fucking draw
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT ON MY ONE FUCKING DAY OFF THIS HAPPENS GOD FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT STILL FUCKING HURTS SO MUCH

[Anonymous No.4204364]

Drawing is the only thing that makes me feel good anymore. My narcissistic parents have made me feel shitty since birth. Just finished shoveling the giant driveway and backyard area for my parents and they didn't give me a thank you or acknowledged me. I literally came inside the house with my head covered in snow feeling like I'm going to get frost bite. I can't feel my face or hands, or anything because it was so freezing. I'm only 19 but I've been nice my whole life and they never treated me right, they praise each other while putting me down and I don't even know why. I tried talking to them about it and when they do they flip out for no reason, I never yell or raise my voice with them but they shout at me and it's awful. They treat my sisters like gods because my parents are feminist and openly view women as better and more deserving. They never tell me they love me. Not even when I was small, only my sisters get told that. I could go on and on about this but I won't. I'm tired. I hope I can make something out of myself with art, I want to draw hentai for a living because it's fun, and honestly to spite them for treating me like trash since I was born. And also because it pays better for a shy, meek kid like me. I don't care if I'll be eating ramen every day, my dream is to be a hikkomori living a comfy, safe life alone drawing to make people happy. My parents drove all my relatives away so there's nothing left anyways, aunts and grandparents are aware that they are crazy but there is nothing anyone can do about it. All that's left is to be myself and hope that I can go somewhere with it.

Done venting, thanks..

[Anonymous No.4204396]

>>4203848
I’ll be your friend anon, but you gotta teach me Japanese. Also, I like your car
drawing; usually I don’t like things that are not people but it looks fine.

[Anonymous No.4204397]

>>4204364
You're over 18, save up and get out from under your parents roof. Reach out to your relatives even if they dont talk to your parents, they might be willing to help or give you lower rent.

[Anonymous No.4204400]

>>4204364
You're pretty young, but honestly, the thing that I recommend is just to get a fucking job. Seriously, if you've never had a job before, just fucking get one.
1. It's not that bad.
2. You make WAY more money than you think you would, especially since you don't have to pay rent.
3. Having money is so fucking liberating. You can just buy whatever the fuck you want, when you want
4. You could buy a really fucking bitchin' screen tablet after only working for a month or two
5. It helps you get your priorities straight
I can go on, but seriously, just get a fucking job if you don't have one already.
>>4204121
I have always wondered this honestly. I felt like /ic/ is SO focused on figure drawing and "I wanna draw anime girls" or "I wanna draw porn" that anything you post that isn't anime girls or general figure drawing just gets totally fucking drowned out. Like imagine all the landscape painters or people who really like drawing animals(not furry shit) have nowhere to go.

[Anonymous No.4204402]

>>4204364
And to add onto this >>4204400 having a part time job seriously isn't that fucking bad. If you get one that's particularly horrible you can literally just not show up and go find another one. Don't fall for this retarded 4chan ideology of "wagie wagie" or "neet bux" or what the fuck ever. They're all literally just people with jobs trying to troll each other, living on welfare fucking blows dick.

[Anonymous No.4204456]

I just finished 22 pages of webcomic and i can't believe it took 6 fucking months to make it. I feel so... dissapointed.

How am i gonna do entire volume books if it takes this long to make simple stuff?

Maybe i should just do the sketches and release them like that. I don't know man, at this point i don't know.

[Anonymous No.4204469]

>>4204456
making a comic at a decent clip is only possible if you grind for speed. see if you can find a video of your favorite mangaka drawing - they'll be flying.
do a fuck ton of gestures and move onto whatever you need to be able to draw fast for your comic, whether that be characters, effects, scenery, etc. maybe you take a while to set everything up in perspective.. learn how to construct in your head/place minimal guides. if you're doing color, streamline your rendering process. use any tools and shortcuts available in your program of choice.
it IS feasible, you just need to work for it.

[Anonymous No.4204503]

>>4204397
>>4204400
>>4204402
>I was abused by my parents emotionally
>Sis decides she wants to be an artist after I've been doing it since I was a baby, parents support 100%
>I'm dirt to all of them
>I went through a split between my parents and my mom's side of the family
>So distant that I find out about my grandma's death in the newspaper, no one told me even though she was the one who took care of me as a child
>Abused in school to the point where the principal urged me to homeschool to protect myself
>I turned him down until kids brought a knife to school and tried to force me into traffic
>I lost all my friends in the process
>Now at home I start teaching myself
>I create an art account, never nsfw
>I meet friends, get job offers and commissions
>Around the 3000 follower mark I meet this girl
>We get along but I was desperate for affection and didn't get she was taking advantage of me
>I get pushed into a relationship, whenever I try to break up she threatens suicide
>She'd post pictures of her arms cut up if I tried to break up with her
>Three years later I reach my breaking point when she posts prom pictures and tells me she was with a guy irl the entire time
>Said I was like an emotional sponge for her and that she never thought of me as a real person
>Just "something on the computer" to help her deal with depression
>It hurts, it hurts, but at least she'll let me break up with her
>No, she's more 'suicidal' than ever before and my conscience won't let me leave
>It's gotten so bad I myself am feeling mentally ill
>I can't think of anything else so I tell my parents about everything
>They have me delete all my accounts
>Everything is gone, my 'girlfriend' of three years, all my online buddies, the potential jobs
>I dedicate a year to changing/improving my art style enough while keeping my soul intact
>I'm a lot more moody, self-centered, and distant from everything
I don't want to work for anyone..I'll make the bare minimum from art but I'll feel satisfied.

[Anonymous No.4204512]

>>4200056
It's 2019, get yourself a lawyer and self-publish or serially release it as a webcomic, because >>4200098 is good enough that some people will buy.

I'm not the lawyer you're going to hire, but,according to https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/copyright-ownership-rights-29953.html,

>Copyright Ownership in Joint Works

>When two or more authors prepare a work with the intent to combine contributions into inseparable or interdependent parts, the work is considered "joint work," and its authors are considered joint copyright owners. The most common example of a joint work is when a book or article has two or more authors.

>The U.S. Copyright Office considers joint copyright owners to have an equal right to register and enforce the copyright. Unless the joint owners sign a written agreement to the contrary, each copyright owner has the right to commercially exploit the copyright, provided that the other copyright owners get an equal share of the proceeds.

AKA, if you haven't signed anything, so long as you give him half the cash, you own it just as much as he does and can publish it in any format or location you fuckin' want.

[Anonymous No.4204552]

>>4204503
Nigga, literally getting a job fixes all of your fucking problems.
When you get a job, you get your priorities straight and you realize that none of the shit you thought you cared about fucking matters. Like all that internet shit with your internet girlfriend? Gone. If you just had a fucking job you'd realize, "Wow, this is stupid and a fucking waste of my time and emotional energy,"
Literally just get a job. You clearly aren't happy just sitting in your room all day feeling like shit, so get a fucking job. You can still do art but why have you not considered that maybe your problem is being stuck in your room all day listening to retarded internet people.
Like, that all sounds pretty rough, but god you people are fucking stupid sometimes. It sounds like "Boomer Shit" but getting on a good sleep schedule, getting a job and focusing on what fucking matters REALLY brightens your mood. As a human being, you don't want to fucking do anything, but paradoxically as a human being, you feel depressed when you don't fucking do anything. You will feel a lot better if you just do something. God damn. No joke, you're gonna keep doing this "internet depressed anime uwu shit" until you're like 23, then you're gonna get a job, realize how retarded you were and you'll feel a lot better, plus, with a job, you can move out of your parents house and literally never speak to them ever again, then, when they realize you're gone and you can't be their punching bag anymore, they'll try to guilt trip you into coming back or doing shit for them, then you tell them to fuck off forever. Win Win.

[Anonymous No.4204570]

>>4203848
Anon don’t ever late anyone tell you your art is just a hobby.

[Anonymous No.4204603]

>>4203918
>my dad makes a living off of his art
Do you have any idea how lucky you are? Ask for his help, train as his apprentice!

[Anonymous No.4204620]

>be 19, still living with parents
>draw low quality porn with a mouse in secret
>acquire a tablet
>tell parents I’m just borrowing it from a friend to try out graphic design for my uni project or whatever
>start getting increasingly good when able to draw for hours undisturbed
>the problem is right now I barely have any spare time, and even when I do I constantly get ambushed by family members walking in on me without knocking first
>so far managed to successfully alt+tab my way out of being a disgrace to the family name
The way of the coomer is a hazardous one

[Anonymous No.4204621]

>>4204620
don't they ask you what you have been drawing? do you have fake art to show them?

[Anonymous No.4204623]

>>4204620
There's nothing wrong with living with your parents, but if you can't be honest about the fact you make porn, and you can't tell them to respect your privacy, then you need to get a job and move out. You can still practice 4 hours a day with a full time job.

[Anonymous No.4204630]

>>4204621
I also always manage to hide the stylus in my hand so it doesn’t look like I’m doing anything, so I guess they think I’m a lazy piece of shit who’s drawn nothing so far.
>>4204623
My future is pretty much set in stone. It’s at least 5,5 more years at uni to get a “carry papers around and get paid well” job which I give zero fucks about, but still gotta grind for because I owe to my family for investing in me. Kinda wish I was hit by a fucking truck or something so that I could skip on all the responsibilities without being an ungrateful brat.

[Anonymous No.4204635]

>draw thing
>it looks pretty good
>next day
>draw similar thing in the same way
>looks like absolute garbage

No sense in this stupid shit. Learning art means losing your sense of logic. Fucking retarded skill to learn yet I can't stop.

[Anonymous No.4204636]

>>4204630
Are you fine with ending up in a job you couldn't give two shits about for the next 30-40 years? If so, then carry on. But if you're starting to feel regret, you'd better start being ungrateful right now. I'm not saying quit everything right now, but if you don't want to waste your time in the long term, you should start considering other options. Life is short anon, and 5,5 years is a lot when you put it all into perspective.

[Anonymous No.4204640]

>>4204636
>Life is short
Well, there are two things about life that I can say for sure
Either it will end someday and all that I’ve done and been through will have been completely pointless because a corpse can feel neither regret nor happiness
OR
It will never end because of some quantum immortality bullshit, so I will outlive literally everyone and have a an eternity to do whatever I want
This theory may sound kinda fucking dumb, but it’s the only logical argument against suicide that I have right now

[Anonymous No.4204643]

>>4204640
Everybody has their own theory on what happens after death. But none of that matters, because none can be proven for certain. It seems that you are lacking a purpose and are just waiting for the inevitable. Why not find that purpose in the meantime?

[Anonymous No.4204833]

My own self doubt and self hatred is eating away at me. I feel like i am nothing but a complete and utter failure. Nothing I do currently looks good in the slightlist to myself. nothing i will do will look good. At this point i cant even tell if i am getting better, its like trying to see through a fog of my own self dissatisfaction. Its getting to the point where i feel like giving up but i can't or else I'll never get any better. Its been around 2 months since I've started to actually started to try to improve. I feel lost.

[Anonymous No.4205028]

i mentioned ch ina and the thread was deleted. what do?

[Anonymous No.4205100]

Some big foreign account reposted my shit with my handle and the text "RT" instead of actually retweeting it AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JESUS FUCK GOD FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.4205153]

>>4202601
Your upset that people want to turn something their good at into a profession?

[Anonymous No.4205168]

>think long and hard about the scenario for a comic I'm making into a comic
>head starts hurting

[Anonymous No.4205170]

>think long and hard about the scenario for a comic I'm making
>head starts hurting

[Anonymous No.4205172]

>>4204051
Find another way to hold a pencil so it doesn't hurt, then get off this shitty website and get back to work.

[Anonymous No.4205192]

>>4203848
I wanna kick you while you're down for many things but godspeed soldier you'll get out there

[Anonymous No.4205241]

I wish this mongolian stop motion animation website would shut the fuck about asians. There are asians who are great at art and asians who are shit at it, there are westerners (fucking retarded term) who are great at art and westerners who are shit. UNGGGHHHH AHHHHH UHHH IS THIS ARTIST GOD AT RENDERING AND CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THEYRE ASIAN it's because they spent their time practicing instead of guzzling cum and making shit posts on a shithole board on a shit website
t. ngmi asian

[Anonymous No.4205248]

>>4202235
The fuck is that greentext spacing

[Anonymous No.4205262]

>>4197032
>vent about how you hate art
99% of "art" is doodles of anime on lined paper by some fat homo with blue hair

[Anonymous No.4205657]

Grinding boxes and lines and yet I still can't draw what I see and everything still looks like shit. What the fuck am I even doing anymore?

[Anonymous No.4205682]

I hate Christmas. The closer it gets the less inquiries I receive. It's like this every fucking year and I get equally anxious. Fucking give me woooorrrkkkk I'm drunk and I'm dying...

[Anonymous No.4205695]

i don't like this feeling but after bettering my skills i start to despise people worse than me
obviously people better than me probably despise me

is this the natural way of things?

[Anonymous No.4206102]

>>4197032
I'm just sad lately man. I'm all alone and poor. I'm eating cheap Halloween sale candy for dinner. I feel pathetic and hope this year ends quickly..

[Anonymous No.4206123]

>>4197032
I don't hate social media, unlike a lot of people. I just hate how hard it is to get followers and engagements on twitter. During the same time I got to 100+ followers on insta (I know it's not a lot) I got 11 on Twitter. I do the same things. Every morning I spend an hour following new people, posting replies/comments, retweeting artwork, etc. It just feels like I'm throwing shit into the void on twitter. Fuck. I did a pirtrait of a famous actress which came out... okay... got a ton of likes on insta from people that don't follow me, got literally 1 like on twitter. What is going on. Are hashtags not important on twitter? Do I really HAVE to do porn? Fucking fuck.

[Anonymous No.4206134]

im just starting and i fucking hate not being able to draw whats in my head. i have a hunch of ideas that i think might be cool and its going to be forever until i can draw them adequately

[Anonymous No.4206137]

>>4206123
growing on twitter boggles me completely, even following the guides posted here by people with big accounts seems to yield absolutely no results

[Anonymous No.4206187]

>>4197032
I AM SO LONELY AND HORNY I NEED A GF NOW NOW NOW NOW

[Anonymous No.4206224]

>>4206187
post your face

[Anonymous No.4206356]

Sigh. I can't straighten myself enough to be responsible and get a job. I really want to have that peace of mind having a comfy job to come back home afterwards and draw without worrying thoughts in my head.

[Anonymous No.4206366]

>>4205695
Yes, weak should fear the strong

[Anonymous No.4206385]

>>4206187
>>4206224
Even better, post a drawn self-portrait

[Anonymous No.4206386]

>>4205657
Grinding boxes and lines will only get you to draw boxes and lines better.

[Anonymous No.4206423]

I'm extremely jealous of every single artist I admire.

[Anonymous No.4206429]

>>4205695
It's called master morality unlike >>4206423 slave morality

[Anonymous No.4206792]

im so fucking sick of youtubers going on about arteza. fuck arteza.

[Anonymous No.4206804]

this art shit is a pain in the ass i should just go back to playing video games

[Anonymous No.4206848]

>>4203848
what a failure

[Anonymous No.4206943]

>>4206385
>>4206224
I came here to vent, not get bullied over my bad art and uggo face

[Anonymous No.4207002]

Anyone else plan on killing themselves eventually?

Unless my art situation changes drastically, I really don't see any reason to live past 35.
I'm 21, got a good few years till then so I'll try not to think about it

[Anonymous No.4207008]

>>4207002
Suicide goes against my beliefs, so I'll keep grinding until the end.

[Anonymous No.4207042]

>>4207002
dying wont make you a better artist. you will just burn for eternity

[Anonymous No.4207277]

>>4207002
No because if I commit sudoku then I won't make it.
You want to make it, don't you animeposter?

[Anonymous No.4207282]

>>4204552
I'll tell you why, a lot of us have a problem you can't understand, you've never been through it so how could you? I got surgery recently after 5 years of being at home and I Finally feel like you, a normal person, not someone that holds back the tears every moment they're in public. You have no idea how bad it felt, it's a problem you've never had, so shut your stupid fucking mouth.

[Anonymous No.4207502]

>>4204630
Your future is, in fact, set in stone, but you cannot claim to know what it is. You can quit this path for another, or, you very well may get hit by a truck. But, I wouldn't underestimate the value of a well paying, easy, meaningless job. Art is a difficult path.

>>4204640
No, you can't say most of those things about life. Yes, it will end, yes a corpse feels nothing, but that's irrelevant. Life isn't pointless, because you *will* feel regret and happiness only *while* alive. No you will not have an eternity to do whatever you want, you have to do it now. (Protip, unless you understand quantum physics fairly well, don't listen to philosophies supposedly based upon it.) The logical argument against suicide is that it causes others suffering and is a waste of potential.

[Anonymous No.4207503]

>>4204552
>you can move out of your parents house and literally never speak to them ever again, then, when they realize you're gone and you can't be their punching bag anymore, they'll try to guilt trip you into coming back or doing shit for them, then you tell them to fuck off forever.
Interesting relationship you have with your parents there

[Anonymous No.4207507]

>>4207002
Maybe at like 70 or 80 if I'm alone and sick.

At 35, most people can still do good for others, experience pleasure, turn their life in many different directions, so I'd say that's pretty stupid.

>>4207282
It's true that he's making an assumption, but considering we're on 4chan trying to be artists, it's probably an accurate assumption in general. I know it applies to me 5 years ago, and some people I know irl.

[Anonymous No.4207509]

>>4207503
Wow retard, maybe you should read the whole thread for context.

[Anonymous No.4207681]

Guys Guys

>>4202056
i was right to be excited my fav musician retweeted my beg workkkkkkkkkkk

[Anonymous No.4207687]

>>4207681
good job anon

[Anonymous No.4207690]

>>4207687
>>4207687
tenkkkkkkkkk

[Anonymous No.4207739]

>>4207002
You're young. Live to 35 and then you'll have a different perspective to life.

[Anonymous No.4207924]

there's no point at all in being on /ic/ for anything, especially if you want to make money off of art.

[Anonymous No.4208028]

ive only bothered with 4chan few a few years, lurked vp co and g before here.
are infiltrators from pol shitposting, or do they genuinely believe the things they say?

[Anonymous No.4208121]

>been doing art for 3-4 years now
>never show anyone because I'm shit and ashamed
>mother always tells me "Anon, why don't you show your art? You draw so much, but I never get to see any"
>"haha, just embarrassed since I'm not so good. Besides, I just draw cartoons, you wouldn't be interested in any of it"
>she still always asks, but I avoid it or say no
>constantly complains that I say no and assures me she'll think it's really good
>finally recently say yes if it'll make her happy and she'll stop complaining/asking about it
>"Wow anon! That's really, really good! I don't know why you're so embarrassed" etc etc etc
>today she was bitching at me about how my generation only draws cartoon characters and never does realism (i.e. studies. examples she gave was doing portraits of family or drawing vases)
>says that drawing cartoons is pointless because they're not real and they don't have any meaning because they're fake
>tells me I'm wasting time drawing cartoons and I'm just going to give up in a few years, despite me drawing regularly since late 2016

Thanks, I guess.

[Anonymous No.4208127]

>>4202019
You got guilt tripped by an unfeeling computer algorithm. How does it feel to be retarded?

[Anonymous No.4208131]

>>4202235
Check out seeking.com or ask what her father does for work.

[Anonymous No.4208135]

>>4202559
Kek I had the same plan in 2015. You can imagine how it went.

[Anonymous No.4208138]

>>4208121
Never show your creative side to people you won’t be able to dump and forget. Even your closest relatives might be gains goblins who will force their outdated vision on you.
Another reason is that art is a very personal thing and whenever you every piece that you enjoyed drawing is a window into your true self, which also should not be shown to anyone.
I for example have quite a few personas that appeal to different social groups I interact with on a daily basis, but none of them are associated with what I draw cause that shit should either stay in the internet under a fake name or in your professional portfolio if you somehow actually make it big.

[Anonymous No.4208145]

>>4203848
Based. You’ve done well considering your starting position. From someone who’s dealt with similar things your actions were admirable. Just don’t sit on your ass and lose the fucking weight.

[Anonymous No.4208149]

>>4208121
Read The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. Should be part of the sticky tbf.

[Anonymous No.4208186]

>>4208138
>art is a very personal thing and whenever you every piece that you enjoyed drawing is a window into your true self, which also should not be shown to anyone.
This. This is part of why I didn't show her any characters of mine, only a couple of pieces of gift art I've done. I used cartoons loosely, since what I draw is weebshit. But anyway, just sorta felt bad having my inspiration and goals called pointless. It's just a hobby to me. I don't care about "making it," but it's still a really important hobby to me. My characters make me happy and drawing in general helps me de-stress. It especially feels bad because I've always felt /ic/'s view of "no fun allowed, git gud or stop" was just part of the board culture, but I'm wondering if that's how other normal people view art in general as well. Oh well, don't think I'll be showing my work to anyone I personally know ever again.

[Anonymous No.4208215]

>>4208121
don't listen to:
>>4208138
>your true self, which also should not be shown to anyone
>I for example have quite a few personas that appeal to different social groups I interact with on a daily basis

Wow, that's fucking sad.

The true advice is who cares what your mother thinks about art, even if you love her. Yours sounds like a cunt anyways, but maybe you're exaggerating.

[Anonymous No.4208241]

>Doing some government supported thing for starting up your own business (illustrator)
>literally free money and help learning about taxes and shit
>family is supportive, thinks it’ll give me the boost I need to get my foot in the door
>so stressed about meetings and business shit that I’ve stopped drawing
>even when I force myself to draw I’m so tense and agitated I can’t enjoy it
>only just got better from health issues probably caused by too much stress

haha

[Anonymous No.4208269]

>>4208215
All parents want you to succeed, but only a few actually care if you’re happy doing it.
To them if you’re working on something that won’t end up profitable the you’re wasting time, and art is a hobby that takes a lot of time.

[Anonymous No.4208274]

>>4197032

[Anonymous No.4208339]

>Want to get into making full length cartoons
>afraid I'd need to rely on nepotism and company manipulating my vision
>get to the point where I just wage and not add anything to my portfolio to even try to fail
>waiting so long to open up flash and even try to practice it in the hopes I'll just pick it up or something akin to it when I transfer schools
>>>going to art school
The world needs doctors and police officers, but when you struggle at being an artist it's like spitting in your parents' faces.

[Anonymous No.4208431]

>>4208121
there's a bit of truth to that. take with agrain of salt. my interpretation.
>you wont improve only drawing the same thing.
cartoons alone dont mean anything, you need writing skills to back them up.
>its possible you could get somewhere specializing only in cartoons, but there are people going to art school with their goal being cartoons, theyre going to be pushed to vases and still lifes and probably a bit of landscape, with the aim being to improve their overall skill.
>you need to be as good as those people to get to where you want.
>if you dont, theres a chance youll give up.

[Anonymous No.4208472]

I hate all you fucking assholes for always telling me I’m NGMI. Well check out my progress after two years of work, faggots!

[Anonymous No.4208483]

>>4208274
Same honestly.

[Anonymous No.4208499]

>>4208121
>mom uses my sketchbook for whatever reason to write on top of shit
>there's like one ugly sketch in there I must tear out
>there's a really nice sketch on top she loves
>she tells me not to throw away the nice one
>it's from a video game right
>I have no idea if she thinks everything I draw is from a video game or not
>not sure if she just likes all my sketches
>the one she definitely likes is realism though
>she probably thinks that ones from a video game
>it's the girl I like
I don't know how to feel about it, I don't draw too much in my sketchbook though. This is why you draw all your porn anime and cartoons digitally and do serious studies on paper. For mom and dad.

[Anonymous No.4208501]

>>4208499
you have to be 18 to post on this site

[Anonymous No.4208507]

>>4208472
Make a blog and update it daily, pussy.

[Anonymous No.4208513]

>>4208507
You can go fuck yourself, you cock sucking retard! I draw the best cubes ever! My cubes are so good they make your balls look like triangles!

[Anonymous No.4208521]

To be honest, fuck artists and their quirky, oversensitive personality.

Few exceptions apply.

[Anonymous No.4208646]

>Big artist starts phoning it in
>People still give him the same amount of likes/praise

[Anonymous No.4208655]

>>4208521
sounds like something an oversensitive artist would say desu

[Anonymous No.4208658]

>>4208499
Make sure to show your sketch to the girl and report back :)

[Anonymous No.4208690]

>>4197032
I never made a firm decision to either finally kill myself or keep on living as the best version of me, so I'm stuck in the middle, neeting, surviving, drawing maybe an hour a day. I hate myself so goddamn much.

I wish I lived in a society that would either whip me until I made something out of myself or gave up on me and let me die, this "sustaining" that a leftie state offers is killing me on the inside

[Anonymous No.4208926]

>>4208655
Jokes on you. I'm not an artist.

[Anonymous No.4208962]

>>4208658
I did a long time ago she said it was beautiful

[Anonymous No.4209052]

>>4208521
Honestly yeah, when you're around artists for so long you realize how empty their idiosyncrasies are. People have told me I don't "look" like an artist cause I dress comfortably and with no pretenses.

[Anonymous No.4209154]

>>4209052
How is a artist suppose to dress?

[Anonymous No.4209158]

>>4208269
Correct. Is this a counter argument, or just an observation? Anon wants to do art as a hobby and has perfectly good reasons for it. If his mother thinks it's a waste of time, the solution is not to hide his 'true self' and his art from her and cripple himself in the process. You learn how to live with the difference. Parents are just people, and people have different opinions about stuff, part of being an adult (should figure this out when you're 13, honestly) is accepting this fact and making your own decisions.

Anon's parents sound terrible enough that it would probably be wiser to do the opposite of what they say. After all, he's only doing it as a hobby, the whole point of a hobby is to waste time doing something pleasurable. His parents should be harping on him about getting a job, not complaining about his hobbies if they really care whether he succeeds (presumably so that he can take care of them in old age, hopefully he abandons the selfish bastards, but again, we don't have a full picture of the relationship).

[Anonymous No.4209306]

Fuck it, I'm just gonna start whoring myself out drawing Fate grand order or some shit.
How is it so popular, I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.4209315]

>>4197940

thats seven days. people browse shit everyday sometimes more than once a day.

[Anonymous No.4209479]

how do I cope with the fact that I'm drawing for.mysel

[Anonymous No.4209481]

>>4209306
>How is it so popular, I don't understand.
Saber's design alone made it popular with nips
Now it just caters to everyone through different mediums and the massive fanbase just attracts more and more newcomers

[Anonymous No.4209543]

I think the cam girl I was spending money on is actually an insanely convincing trap with a feminine voice. I'm not mad if anything I want her to be a boy because that would make me feel like one of the hentai I read

[Anonymous No.4209545]

>>4209543
Or maybe shes one of those with roast beef curtains between her legs and does not want me seeing that
I haven't seen a camgirl with that going on but it could be

[Anonymous No.4209548]

>>4209306
Big phonegame thats the real reason otherwise it would have faded away like anything else by now

[Anonymous No.4209602]

>>4197032
if your art isn't
>hyper realistic
>anime
>porn
>pandering to fandoms
and if you're not
>marketing yourself 24/7
>drawing 24/7
you're ngmi
And be sure to avoid actually putting any meaning into your art
because then it's weird
Bland is best taste
praise the economy

[Anonymous No.4210012]

I want to start posting art again but I can't deal with that feel of being completely alone in the void. Today was a terrible day that really rubbed it in, my art is all I have and I have become protective of it.

[Anonymous No.4210022]

>>4197032
>have decent drawing structure down >well enough to get commissions
>isn’t creative worth shit
What helps you guys get ideas flowing? I always have to reference other pieces of art and nothing ever feels like my own personal work. I read, play vidya, and go outside, but I have the worst visual library. I’m not creative if I tried, are some people just destined to have a bland imagination?
>pic not related

[Anonymous No.4210259]

>>4210012
your art is shit so try not to post please

[Anonymous No.4210819]

>>4209545
I asked her if, hypothetically she were a boy? and she doesn't actually know english so she thought I was asking if she had a boyfriend and told me she only has twooooo cats :3
such is life

[Anonymous No.4210823]

>>4210819
I'd ask her more directly if she has a penis but by this point I'm certain she's just a cute shy girl

[Anonymous No.4210863]

>>4210022
Some people are but that's a tiny minority. Do you remember what you dream? If you can't, you might want to deal down whatever causes you to stress and get plenty of sleep.
Videogames are the worst offenders, though.
The sooner you drop them, the better for your creativity.

[Anonymous No.4211114]

>>4210259
H-how do you know?

[Anonymous No.4211281]

>>4210863
I don’t play that often, I try not to get too into them because I end up wasting my money. My sleeping schedule isn’t good but I can get on track easily, although I prefer to draw at night. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4211293]

>>4210823
>I'm certain she's just a cute shy girl
>camwhore
>shy

[Anonymous No.4211296]

>”hey anon what’s your art insta/fb/etc”
>inquiries for portraits, get offers $100+
>hands sweaty, mom’s spaghetti
>”i-i’m not there yet”

[Anonymous No.4211317]

How does one blog their work? Like on Instagram or deviantart?

[Anonymous No.4211362]

why cant i draw faces?! i swear to god i could have moved on to a bunch of other shit by now but for the past 4 years i havent learned jack shit about drawing faces. its not fair. why dont fucking eyes make sense?! how does anyone draw eyes?

[Anonymous No.4211459]

>>4211362
Learn to construct the skull. The eye sockets are much larger than the actual eyeballs, and they recede much further than you think. The eyelids wrap around the eyes but they also go over some flesh to the sides. Use parallel lines or ellipses to align the features.

[Anonymous No.4211481]

>>4197032
I'm having a hard time learning anything from /ic/.
>/beg/ doesn't ever crit anything I do, /int/ isn't much of help either
>my threads die
Where can I go? I'm lonely and I need an online community or forums, not really social media.

[Anonymous No.4211833]

I don't know what's happening or if my arm has gotten weaker, but I've been unable to draw well recently. Plus, my brain can't remember images well and my right eye keeps getting floaters, which makes my artwork worse.

It's like as if I'm decaying, and I hate it. I want to draw, I want to sketch, but when I pick up the stylus --- I can't. It's a regression and I think it's from my past HS art classes.

I've lost my ability to draw curves, I can't sketch, but the most I can do is color. KMS.

[Anonymous No.4211929]

Is 4chins kill

[Anonymous No.4212171]

>>4197032
I just want to draw anime tiddy

[Anonymous No.4212446]

I wish /ic/ would actually draw

[Anonymous No.4212737]

FUCKKKKK JUST COLLAB WITH ME
I SUCK AT MAKING MY ART FROM SCRATCH I JUST WANT YOU TO DO SKETCHES AND THEN LET ME MAKE THEM LINELESS OR VECTOR THEM OR SOMETHING AHHHH
JUST GIVE ME LIKE 50 SKETCHES AT ONCE SO I DONT HAVE TO SIT HERE DOING NOTHING BECAUSE I DONT LIKE MY OWN STUFF USUALLY

[Anonymous No.4212749]

>>4211833
Look up the symptoms of Huntington's disease. I don't mean to scare you, but just look them up is all I'm saying

[Anonymous No.4213779]

I am weak. I don't know what happen. I am too dependant on references while I draw. I feel like I need a reference to start and I need to copy it exactly. I can't stylized. I don't know what caused this. It used to be the opposite ages ago. I used to be able to draw from imagination all the time and balance reference studies. Because of that thread the other day I try to stop but now I can't draw.