Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Anonymous No.4196959]

Previous >>4189972

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/
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[Anonymous No.4196967]

Oooo, Nessie! Happy to see your stuff in the OP :D

[Anonymous No.4196976]

>>4196967
sauce?

[Anonymous No.4197012]

painting I did

[Anonymous No.4197038]

>>4197012
she wasn't super happy with this one btw, but ill post it here anyways

[Anonymous No.4197056]

sketch for new shuten drawing :)

[Anonymous No.4197059]

>>4196959
Thanks for the op
I think I will call this done for now because I have homework. Not quite pleased but I feel like I learned something

[Anonymous No.4197061]

>>4197059
Also a new version of the op pic that I didn't post because I thought the changes were not worth showing off, but seeing my janky mistakes up there makes me sad

[Anonymous No.4197109]

I scrapped this from inktober, now its alt

[Anonymous No.4197150]

Done with this I think

[Anonymous No.4197215]

>>4197109
>>4197150
love this stuff guys

i am going to sleep now

[Anonymous No.4197295]

>>4197150
Super cool!

[Anonymous No.4197301]

>>4197150
Blog please

[Anonymous No.4197339]

Gokicha(s)

[Anonymous No.4197410]

>>4197339
very cute, would stomp on

[Anonymous No.4197414]

>>4197038
I'm not surprised she wasn't happy with it either

[Anonymous No.4197420]

>>4197215
>>4197295
Thank you.
>>4197301
https://twitter.com/inkpleb

[Anonymous No.4197440]

[Anonymous No.4197445]

>>4196959
cute nessie <3

[Anonymous No.4197451]

>>4197061
This is looking really good. I thought the shape of the head and neck was a bit bizarre though, so here's a shitty drawover. The cranium doesn't seem to extend far enough backwards and the neck tapers in an odd way.

[Anonymous No.4197502]

>>4197451
I see exactly what you mean. Thank you for the redline, it is very helpful and I appreciate it

[Anonymous No.4197521]

>>4197215
The sleeves aren't the same length, don't mess up something so basic. Other then that you are showing signs of improvment, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4197524]

>>4197150
I like her crocs

[Anonymous No.4197554]

>>4197150
How do you pronounce names with X in them?

[Anonymous No.4197557]

working on a "school of athens: but with all the 4chan boards

should take me 2 months if i do a board a day

[Anonymous No.4197732]

help

[Anonymous No.4197752]

>>4197150
I think you ended up doing the right amount of rendering given the style. Anymore and it would be overbearing.

[Anonymous No.4197778]

>>4197554
Usually with a Z sound. Her name is derived from xanthic (ZAN-thik), "of, relating to, or tending toward a yellow color."

>>4197752
That's good to hear. I was definitely trying to make it uncanny, wasn't sure if I'd succeeded.

>>4197732
To me it looks like you're drawing in the values with a tiny brush and focusing on details first. Everything's just a bit gray and the edges are smudged and overworked. I had this problem for a while, what ultimately helped me was to just focus on drawing and anatomy, and to learn how light works (how it really works, not how artists say it works).

If you want to save this piece right now though, I think you'd get more out of watching some videos on how painters block in major shadow shapes first and then define edges. Marco Bucci is incredible at explaining all of this. James Gurney's plein air videos are also worth watching just to observe his process.

[Anonymous No.4197852]

[Anonymous No.4197895]

>>4197852
not gonna lie. I prefer the sketch

[Anonymous No.4197911]

[Anonymous No.4197919]

>>4197215
Sleep tight
Don't let the bed bugs bite

And sweet dreams, anon :)

[Anonymous No.4197955]

>>4197895
yeah maybe some changes were unnecessary hmmm
but i am closer to my goal of clen-looking drawings (keyword: closer)

[Anonymous No.4197985]

>>4197012
its p bad bro

you shouldve fixed the head and kept it a drawing

[Anonymous No.4197993]

[Anonymous No.4198033]

[Anonymous No.4198038]

>>4197215
Thanks

>>4197109
I’m finding it difficult to put on pants in the morning

[Anonymous No.4198047]

>>4197911
Pick a lightsource and stick with it

[Anonymous No.4198054]

>>4198047
I did try to but I see why it looks off, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4198065]

[Anonymous No.4198159]

>>4197440
This looks really cool, blog?

[Anonymous No.4198209]

forgot some things but I can't give a shit anymore
>>4198033
neat

[Anonymous No.4198283]

>>4198159
dont have one

[Anonymous No.4198362]

just bored
sorry about the image size

[Anonymous No.4198716]

[Anonymous No.4198804]

>>4197993
thanks for this portrait of me

[Anonymous No.4198818]

Pose sheet.

[Anonymous No.4198843]

>>4197993
Thanks for this genderbent portrait of me

[Anonymous No.4198846]

>>4198065
p cool


>>4198362
This is amazing. Got any more? Blog?

[Anonymous No.4198850]

>>4198283
studying those translucent/iridescent textures will pay off, keep going

[Anonymous No.4198873]

[Anonymous No.4198886]

>>4198873

[Anonymous No.4198888]

>>4198886
Hoping a senpai will notice me

[Anonymous No.4198898]

sketch for my new 30 followers special i will be drawing Francis Drake from fgo cause she looks cool and hot

[Anonymous No.4198923]

some sketches

[Anonymous No.4199052]

>>4198898
ok i must go to sleep now

[Anonymous No.4199065]

>>4198888
Good shit, added you on insta

[Anonymous No.4199069]

>>4199052
Add a flag on a stick coming out of the gun saying "30" and give her a smile.
>you could be anything. you choose to be boring

[Anonymous No.4199072]

>>4199069
i wanna be able to make boring but clean-looking and visually appealing first :(

[Anonymous No.4199165]

I can't tell if her head needs to be bigger or if I'm so used to drawing big heads that a normal sized head looks small.

[Anonymous No.4199171]

I forgot mobile images love to upload sideways. Let's try this again.

[Anonymous No.4199310]

[Anonymous No.4199326]

[Anonymous No.4199381]

[Anonymous No.4199382]

>>4199381
nice

[Anonymous No.4199444]

And a sketch
Barely drawn in the last couple of months so my skills are degrading rapidly

[Anonymous No.4199462]

>>4199381
moar

[Anonymous No.4199465]

>>4199462
Sorry the only other hatched digital image i have is this LOL

[Anonymous No.4199466]

>>4198873
I love this

[Anonymous No.4199467]

>>4199465
That's some nice hatching but still. What the fuck

[Anonymous No.4199479]

>>4199465
Man I wish you made more sfw stuff because you do have unironically great skills but this stuff is kinda gross

[Anonymous No.4199697]

wip of a SU porn comic I'm doing

[Anonymous No.4199716]

i awoke in a cold sweat with the urge to draw this garbage

[Anonymous No.4199734]

>>4199052
I am awoken and i have made progress

[Anonymous No.4199746]

>>4198846
>This is amazing. Got any more? Blog
aw thank you anon, sure
https://www.instagram.com/boygivingup

[Anonymous No.4199794]

>>4199716
NNN has affected someone of us more profoundly than others

[Anonymous No.4199856]

>>4199734
Be careful of the crotch area. It's not a reverse butt.

[Anonymous No.4199865]

>>4199856
thank you for the redline

[Somohex No.4199894]

I hate anime.

[Anonymous No.4199968]

>>4197993
Literally me

[Anonymous No.4199974]

ok implemented changes

[Anonymous No.4200036]

>>4199465
sigjpg is dead, where do you post now?

[Anonymous No.4200057]

Drew my cat in the top left hehe, had a lot of fun with this page :D

[Anonymous No.4200142]

and of course the fag has a cat

[Anonymous No.4200237]

>>4200142
That’s just mean now

[Anonymous No.4200243]

>>4198065
blog?

[Anonymous No.4200244]

>>4200057
ahh yes, showcasing your inability to draw anything besides anime

[Anonymous No.4200248]

god i wish i could color like Nessie

[Anonymous No.4200264]

>>4200248
I just want to say, I think you're on the right path. You're doing difficult, imaginative work and you respond positively to critique. Also, you seem to already know what looks good to you, and which artists inspire you. Find time to incorporate study and serious observation into the mix, while still doing creative stuff, and you're gmi.

[Anonymous No.4200268]

>>4200264
thank you very much

[Anonymous No.4200285]

>>4200237
*meow

[Anonymous No.4200287]

>>4200057
Study this guy's crosshatching, just ignore his degeneracy
>>4199381

[Anonymous No.4200289]

>>4200287
He’s brilliant, I’d love to get to his level some day

[Anonymous No.4200305]

Trting to make ref sheets so I can stay on-model better

>>4200248
>god i wish i could color like Nessie
That's very flattering, I could try doing a bit of a paintover and offer some tips, if you'd like. What sort of "feeling" are you going for with the colors?

[Anonymous No.4200315]

>>4200305
thank you and please only do this if you really feel like it
my idea was like most artworks of this character, she is standing on a ship in open sea in a very sunny weather

[Anonymous No.4200398]

>>4200315
Here is a quick paintover, I hope some of this is helpful.
>she is standing on a ship in open sea in a very sunny weather
I feel if you have a specific setting in mind and aren't just drawing a pin-up on a blank bg it helps a lot to color in the bg first, as it helps you coordinate your colors more easily.
Other than that, the biggest thing that stands out to me is that you use the same hue for all of your shading, which makes the colors less lively.

[Anonymous No.4200405]

>>4200398
thank you so much this is way more than i expected

[Anonymous No.4200413]

>>4200398
Also I notice you seem to be a little unsure of your use of saturation. There are many reasons to saturate/desaturate a colors but generally what I have found is
>Alternate saturated/desaturated colors as you pick lighter/darker colors, pic related demonstrates this, though you don't need to do it as dramatically as him
>use saturated colors for elements that are meant to be focal points of the image or otherwise stand out (think eyes, important objects, breasts and dicc if you're drawings lewds)
>Conversely, use desaturated colors for elements meant to recede in the image. This is atmospheric perspective, and in reality you only see in on very distant objects but you can exaggerate it for compositional effect
>generally, it can help to stat with more saturated colors for your base colors. Your highlights and shadows will usually be more desaturated, and will make the colors of the object look a bit more washed out, so if you are going for a lively color palette try to pick bright, bold colors first as your shading will neutralize them. It is easy to dull down a bold color, but it is hard to make a dull color pop again

[Anonymous No.4200664]

I had the visual of the middle woman in my head for a while and finally decided to get it out, I want to try designing more gothic-ugly-horror-type characters like this.

[Anonymous No.4200674]

>>4200664
your style reminds me of scary stories to tell in the dark, or something that would accompany an edgar allen poe story

[Anonymous No.4200677]

>>4200674
I think this was subconsciously inspired by Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark! :) I’ll look for more inspiration there, thank you anon

[waifu winter No.4200688]

I will be doing daily anime studies for the Winter to combat seasonal depression, here is the first of many to come, will post reference as a reply

[waifu winter No.4200691]

>>4200688
Sorry it was not rotated properly, the thumbnail was aligned correctly on my HDD

[Anonymous No.4200695]

>>4200691
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4200713]

>>4200688
Here’s a better pic, hopefully aligned properly

[Anonymous No.4200825]

>>4200664
Done with tonight’s doodles :] I think I’m more clear about the world that I want to build now

[Anonymous No.4200833]

>>4200243
https://twitter.com/pokinha
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/pokinha/
I've just created it, so there's nothing there.
But i'm already working on this to have something to post on monday

[Anonymous No.4200866]

>>4198888

[Anonymous No.4200867]

>>4197150
Text too neat, colours a little too unimaginative and safe for the kooky punk look
Have a look at Ashley Woods lettering, your handwriting is girly and too neat for the context

Love it though, big energy

[Anonymous No.4200871]

>>4200833
i like your stuff, make an Instagram

[Anonymous No.4200886]

>>4199465
>>4199444
Fuck youre incredibly good
Teach me how to attain this level of depth and 3D please bro, point me in the right direction. I want nothing more than to be able to play around with depth and form like this

[Anonymous No.4201047]

>>4200867
Thank you, I'll remember this.

[Anonymous No.4201084]

Fire bug

[Anonymous No.4201118]

[Anonymous No.4201122]

>>4200036
Nowhere now

>>4200289
Too kind

>>4200886
Its just the style of artists i like on top of fundamentals. R.Crumb mixed with frazetta.
Style is something that comes naturally but emulating someone elses requires you to study it

[Anonymous No.4201152]

she-ra fuckin slaps

>>4197150
>>4197339
both so fu ckin cute i love u

>>4199381
>>4199444
>>4199465
noice

>>4200691
also also cute

[Anonymous No.4201156]

Mimic Princess wip

[Anonymous No.4201246]

>>4201084
>>4201118
>>4201152
>>4201156
Nicely done anons.

[Anonymous No.4201310]

[Anonymous No.4201410]

Is this an appealing character?

[Anonymous No.4201412]

>>4197012
I like it. the face looks, like, flat, but I think it looks cool.

[Anonymous No.4201414]

>>4201410
blog?

[Anonymous No.4201416]

>>4201410
Not so sure about the color scheme, but yes. I wanna see her getting rammed.

[Anonymous No.4201419]

>>4197955
Hands posture you should probably work on.
Character is cute, but the cloth doesn't flow naturally, definitely draw more folds and study that.

[Anonymous No.4201421]

>>4201414
http://twitter.com/wholesomeorenji

>>4201416
>Not so sure about the color scheme
Anything that sticks out in particular? Choosing the colors is what I had the most trouble with.

[Anonymous No.4201423]

>>4200833
she cute, me likey

[Anonymous No.4201431]

>>4201421
It's the hair. I even thought it was left uncolored at first.

[Anonymous No.4201445]

[Anonymous No.4201449]

>>4201431
thanks, maybe it's just the lack of shading. It's a bit rushed but does this look a bit better?

[Anonymous No.4201450]

[Anonymous No.4201457]

>>4201450
Good job man, this looks good

[Anonymous No.4201496]

Working on a creepy butcher guy

[Anonymous No.4201503]

>>4201496
reminiscent of illastrat.

[Anonymous No.4201504]

>>4201421
>>4201449
Not that anon, but the colors are a bit chalky and tend toward the same brightness, so there isn't much color or value contrast. This isn't inherently bad, and I kinda thought it was an effect you were aiming for in your drawings. But if you do, maybe think in terms of what you want emphasize, which colors you want to pop. This image is almost entirely low chroma reds with neutral gray (which looks blue in context), against a gray-yellow background, and with neutral white for balance. The blue stood out to me, so I emphasized it a tiny bit, but that's just one fairly conservative way to make something stand out, you could do almost anything really. Cute drawing by the way.

[Anonymous No.4201528]

>>4201503
:(

[Anonymous No.4201529]

>>4201496
>i have the body of a pig SHKSHK

[Anonymous No.4201563]

>>4201410
ehhh

[Anonymous No.4201564]

>>4201504
Thanks for the advice. You're right that your version pops out a lot more. I'll play around with saturation a bit more next time.

[Anonymous No.4201572]

>>4201504
Based critique.

[Anonymous No.4201583]

[Anonymous No.4201613]

>>4197732
>To me it looks like you're drawing in the values with a tiny brush and focusing on details first.

Exactly what this other anon said. The mouth specially looks like it was rendered with a 1px brush, at 400% zoom, while the rest is still in a rough draft stage. That's why the image feels so weird and you don't feel like you're progressing.

As for the rendering itself, I think the forehead should be a bit in shadow, not as bright as the eyebrows; and the light and shadow on the cheeks, don't make the transition between them so sharp, it makes her face look flat. It looks like it's perfectly hitting a uniform, flat plane on her face, and then there's a sharp step at the top of her cheeks.

Also your value range is pretty narrow right now, nothing goes over 50%. Make the light from the spell brighter.

[Anonymous No.4201615]

uggh

[Anonymous No.4201628]

generic furry bust shot as a quick thank you gift for a friend

[Anonymous No.4201664]

>>4201615
>That file name
wtf

[Anonymous No.4201674]

[Anonymous No.4201678]

>>4201152
You. How do you draw so cleanly without a base? I need like 3 layers for sketches, or I just draw very lightly if I'm doing traditional. For you it seems... seamless. Gimmie some tips

[Anonymous No.4201727]

[Anonymous No.4201739]

>>4201674
did you use the asobi asobase girl as a reference

[Anonymous No.4201776]

>>4201678
I'm not the guy who you asked but I think that the way they are able to do line art without sketching is because they're really good at construction ,thus are able to do the constructions in their head

[Anonymous No.4201783]

>>4201678
Not him but stop doing that many sketches and start visualizing in your head.

[Anonymous No.4201978]

ROB

[Anonymous No.4202036]

>>4201978
Beautiful line work

[Anonymous No.4202044]

>>4202036
I can't tell if you're sarcastic or genuine. This is the 3rd drawing i make with these new ink pens, i messed up a bunch of stuff.
But you sound genuine so thank you very much :)

[Anonymous No.4202063]

A pinup sketched up on the side.

[Anonymous No.4202093]

WIP, fuck painting

[Anonymous No.4202158]

>>4201727

[Anonymous No.4202246]

>>4199310
>>4197109
These are so fun.
hell yea

[Anonymous No.4202311]

>>4201152
she-ra is dog shit go back to /co/ or tumblr.

[Anonymous No.4202355]

[Anonymous No.4202378]

[Anonymous No.4202390]

>>4202158
Why is she standing with her sword like that? There's a giant angry worm right behind her and she's posing for a picture?? Nice colors but the pose makes no sense

[Anonymous No.4202409]

>>4201152
you make the she-ra reboot look good, quite the herculean task

[Anonymous No.4202466]

>>4196959

I'm finally figuring out screentones, they're so fucking cool

this psd is 3 layers and a white background boys

[Anonymous No.4202469]

>>4202466

crit and advice regarding screentones would be much appreciated

[Anonymous No.4202494]

[Anonymous No.4202542]

>>4202378
òwó

[Anonymous No.4202570]

Saw a cool thing of dough at my work the other day, took a pic of it to draw something from it and this is what I got so far. Nice and lumpy

[Anonymous No.4202607]

>>4202570
sexy

[Anonymous No.4202619]

I was experimenting with stabilizers and I ended up drawing this

[Anonymous No.4202634]

where is david

[Anonymous No.4202636]

Working on a new style and designs. Honing to work on folds.
>>4202494
Very nice, her right hand looks off but overall really nice. blog?

[Anonymous No.4202638]

>>4202355
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4202639]

>>4202619
loomis

[Anonymous No.4202643]

>>4202093
Saved.
>>4201727
Her pose needs some work, it’s a little stagnant.
>>4201628
Cute.
>>4200866
Fuckin cool anon. Love your hatching.

[Anonymous No.4202674]

>>4202466
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4202730]

>>4202093
love this
colors are all very desat though, some minor adjustments could help it pop

[Anonymous No.4202758]

>>4201583
moving too slow for her gait

[Anonymous No.4202763]

>>4202643
>>4202390
Thanks, I'll work on it

[Anonymous No.4202820]

>>4200866
Hatching looks good so far.

[Anonymous No.4202826]

>>4202093
I am surprised at the shading is this some Michaelangelo influence going on? Because it has some nice stylistic choices going on here.

[Anonymous No.4202833]

>>4201978
This is cute

[Anonymous No.4202877]

>>4201084
Added some other things

[Anonymous No.4202887]

>>4202877
Blogue?

[Anonymous No.4202956]

face from below hard

[Anonymous No.4202980]

got too ambitious with this but fuck it

[Anonymous No.4203029]

>>4198065
FUCK YOU FURRY SCUM

[Anonymous No.4203037]

>>4199326
steven universe rip off

[Anonymous No.4203051]

>>4199894
that's why your art is boring

[Anonymous No.4203101]

>>4202638
Here you go.
https://twitter.com/WhiteBox_Studio

[Anonymous No.4203182]

>>4201583
Have you finished at least 1 animation?

[Anonymous No.4203285]

Wowee! Cartoon characters smoking and drinking, so funny!

[Anonymous No.4203349]

>>4198038
I love this magenta marker - everything is magenta now

Whatever studies

[Anonymous No.4203364]

>>4202636
Thank you! It's https://miraxeart.com/blog.. I think I need to set aside a week of my life to do hand studies, because that tends to happen with my art.

I really like your designs, by the way. Are these for a story of some sort or just kinda designing for the hell of it?

[Anonymous No.4203368]

>>4202980
It's awesome that you challenge yourself with angles and group scenes, this is actually really well executed. Keep it up!
>>4201978
Cool idea!
>>4201445
I like the dynamic posing
>>4201410
Yup!
>>4200691
Kawaii~~
>>4199326
I like the concept!
>>4198886
Wow you're a pro!
>>4198362
I like it! Nice composition
>>4197059
>>4197061
Love your stuff Nessie!

I made another one of those editorial-style illos, inspired by my recent house renovation.

[Anonymous No.4203369]

dun
>>4202730
>colors are all very desat though
on purpose
>>4202826
>Michaelangelo influence going on?
NOT on purpose but ok

[Anonymous No.4203373]

wich one guys?

[Anonymous No.4203376]

>>4203373
is this you're pyw on the left?

[Anonymous No.4203394]

>>4200057
bane

[Anonymous No.4203396]

>>4203373
Is this MLP?

[Anonymous No.4203404]

Mech repair logs often contradict stories of heroism spewed by novice pilots.

[Anonymous No.4203475]

>>4203396
i think its the new league of legends music video

[Anonymous No.4203491]

Thirty minute warm up.

[Anonymous No.4203533]

>>4202956

i am redid lines

[Anonymous No.4203566]

>>4203404
hey do you post your work to a place along with lots of other of your work? i need to know that place if so

[Anonymous No.4203568]

>>4203533
kurwa anon her tits are in her stomach

[Anonymous No.4203573]

>>4203568
thanks
i reduced their original size from the sketch and messed up the placement and perspective apparently now i see it

[Anonymous No.4203621]

>>4202877
I love your shit man. So dynamic.

[Anonymous No.4203678]

Does anyone know what kind of coloring process was used in this? I mean it looks like it was painted over the lineart but I'm not sure, anyone have any idea how to achieve this?

[Anonymous No.4203682]

>>4203678
no rendering

[Anonymous No.4203746]

>>4203349
Spent way too long playing with her hair

[Anonymous No.4203752]

[Anonymous No.4203765]

>>4203746
Your proportions looking amazing as always

[Anonymous No.4203768]

[Anonymous No.4203781]

>>4202469

[Anonymous No.4203799]

>>4203491
This warms my cock, blog?

[Anonymous No.4203805]

>>4202469
So... How do you do them screntones?

[Anonymous No.4203815]

>>4203805

There's a texture pack store called True Grit Texture Supply, I just use their free pack because I'm broke as fuck. These screen tones are just brushes.

When I start making some money off these I want to buy a bunch of their brush and action packs. I think Kyle's megapack has screen tone brushes as well but these are better.

here's that hanya piece all finished up

[Anonymous No.4203829]

p-probs shouldn't be drawin this at work but here we are

>>4201246
danke ;w;

>>4201678
me? i erase a lot. i also think through the "layering" of the image so to speak, like X is gonna be in front of Y which is infront of Z an try to draw closest to viewer first an work my way down. but i also try to place the "fixed points" of a pose before drawing the more "floating point" like parts as well.
i think of it like "i want the hand to be here an in roughly this position an therefore the rest of the arm must be between the area the shoulder would be an the place i have placed the hand. i try not to draw blankly out into open space, i try to plan placements of things first to give myself anchors to work towards. often i'll lay down light (or not so light) sketch lines as well to help me feel out shapes an general compositions/flow/forces/poses/proportions

i also have a lotta "prebuilt" shape libraries in my head (for lack of a better way to explain it) that are like, the diff parts of the body at diff masses an angles an degrees of flexion in relation to other joints an how those tend to compress an squash an stretch but in simple, appealing an easy to remember shapes that read clearly. i kinda assemble them like legos almost.
i think of it like "i want hand here in this pose i kinda jus have in my mental library an at this angle an position the arm an elbow would have this specific shape i also have saved in me visiual brain library" etc etc. a lot of that is studying the figure along with other artists i like in tandem to break down their stylistic choices and why they make them... i think. i could just be talking out my ass right now lol, apologies for rambling so much

>>4202409
c'mon, it's cute an well written an every character is some kinda hypergay, the art style has actually grown on me a lot, like i absolutely adore most of the character designs

>>4202378
>>4203349
>>4203368
>>4203533
luv these

[Anonymous No.4203851]

>>4203349
I like the octoling
What kind of markers do you use?

[Anonymous No.4203859]

>>4202887
Im on twitter: @art_mellon

>>4203621
ah, thanks anon :)

[Anonymous No.4203892]

>>4203373

[Anonymous No.4203894]

>>4203892
is this bbc-chan?

[Anonymous No.4203896]

>>4203369
looks really off, you either take it to a realistic level or you dont, cant do both. it looks like shit

[Anonymous No.4203904]

Deeply afraid of over-rendering, but I really need to make things look more polished, how do I maintain a soft/sketchy look without it just looking unfinished?

[Anonymous No.4203908]

>>4203369
I like it a lot. It has a very anime paint style work that is soft and nice to look at.
>>4203896
It's fun to see his experimentation though. I mean this is ALT after all.

[Anonymous No.4203913]

>>4203908
that is just and excuse

[Anonymous No.4203917]

>>4203678
>>4203682
time to pick up that tablet and do some render studies anon

[Anonymous No.4203940]

>>4203904
It looks unfinished because there are no light sources, and no actual rendering.

[Anonymous No.4203989]

>>4203376
Official League art from the True Damage skins

[Anonymous No.4204013]

>>4203940
I'm not saying it's finished, I suppose I asked this prematurely. I'd like to keep the dim/flat look but I'll try adding a light source, thank you

[Anonymous No.4204031]

>>4203566
https://www.instagram.com/bagbossart/

[Anonymous No.4204150]

>>4203799
Here.

>>4203101

[Anonymous No.4204155]

>>4204150
ooooooh now it all make sense

[Anonymous No.4204202]

>>4203752
i changed the face hopefully its better now
but must go to sleep now

[Anonymous No.4204230]

>>4204202

[Anonymous No.4204232]

>>4204230
Keked

[Anonymous No.4204233]

[Anonymous No.4204235]

>>4204230
>>4204202
oh no no no no

[Anonymous No.4204244]

>>4204230
>>4204232
>>4204235
Eehhhh ok ill fix it im sory

[Anonymous No.4204250]

>>4204235
Satania a cute. A CUTE.

[Anonymous No.4204262]

>>4204244
Sorry for what? Our dads said we shouldn't ashame of our art since it looks decent and all.

[Anonymous No.4204278]

>>4203917
Thanks, I know the basics of rendering but my question is how do I "blend" the lines from the lineart into the colour of the drawing, like I marked in pic related.

[Anonymous No.4204306]

>>4204155
I did traditional most of my life. Part of what I missed about it was the feel of pen against paper. It's easy to just let go.

I appreciate what my Huion has done for me, but it's frustrating to deal with sometimes. Especially their driver software.

[Anonymous No.4204315]

>>4204278
To me, it just looks like the conventional blur tool. There's nothing real fancy about it. Just solid, graphical shape design with a few hard edges smoothed out.

The top circle, to draw emphasis to the sharp lighting on her breasts. The bottom, given a stroke of the midtone and blurred to ensure her rear isn't lost in the shadows.

[Anonymous No.4204320]

>>4204202
Why did you choose such a muddy ugly color?

[Anonymous No.4204325]

>>4204278
unless the artist has published a step by step tutorial on their rendering (which usually doesnt help cause its in jap) your best bet is usually to just try doing it side by side on your own

[Anonymous No.4204329]

>>4204278
The lines are painted too. There's no proper lineart.

[Anonymous No.4204338]

>>4204031
This is dope.

[Anonymous No.4204339]

>>4204278
Go to your linel layer, tap the block no pixel section in the configuration of the layer and choose the color of your like and stard painting over

Just like that anon

[Anonymous No.4204404]

>>4204202
become an anime chad

[Anonymous No.4204405]

>>4204338
i like this alot, reminds me of metal gear and jin-roh

[Anonymous No.4204426]

>>4204404
BASED

[Anonymous No.4204432]

Redisigned the Au ra from Ffxiv because those scales are dumb af

[Anonymous No.4204451]

>>4203904
over rendering is a meme that only happens to those who lack the ability to make an appealing render in the first place. that said, i think it looks good where it is & you could leave it there if you're not feeling a paintover. if you want practice digging into a render do it on a piece where you have no qualms over making mistakes

>>4204202
the face isn't the best but i like how ambitious you're being. honestly impressed by how far you've come in such a short time. blog?

>>4203746
lovely shapes as always

[Anonymous No.4204462]

started this today, hows he looking?

[Anonymous No.4204486]

>>4204315
>>4204325
>>4204329
>>4204339
Thanks bros, I tried to paint the lineart layer with the pixels locked and it seems to have worked.

[Anonymous No.4204491]

>>4204404
soulless

[Anonymous No.4204492]

>>4204462
nice, reminds me of that regular show episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkWzAZRXi5k

[Anonymous No.4204504]

>>4204338
It's interesting you say that haha. Thank you, anon.

[Anonymous No.4204505]

>>4204405
Thank you, anon.

[Anonymous No.4204519]

>>4204486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpcnJ1mWH8E&t=1120s

Watch his speedpaints.He has a similar rendering style.
They are either just painting in the lines or there's a gradient map applied and then painted over.
I used to just paint over linework with pixels locked but I feel like it makes weird results sometimes.

[Anonymous No.4204617]

>>4203765
>>4204451
Thonks

>>4203746
Faces - i had to do redraws because they haven’t invented a tool that can erase ink

[Anonymous No.4204619]

>>4204617
Did another set this morning

[Anonymous No.4204637]

>>4204462
chin should be bigger, imagine if he closed his mouth it would make his face so short his chin would go above the jawline, pose is a bit stiff, noone plays piano with their fingers crunched up

[Anonymous No.4204649]

still painting this

[Anonymous No.4204653]

>>4204649
She looks unhappy that you have not finished painting her

[Anonymous No.4204738]

>>4204649
I like you so I hope this helps.

You seem to have started straight from the details without getting the underlying general shape right and drew the lines on top of it.
That's what the layers are for, first draw a good girl, then put secondary details, armors and lines on top of her.

The things I fixed are
-trapezius shape is way too fucking harsh, it's never meant to have a hard edge
-her tits are growing straight from the clavicles while they are supposed to be on the lower portion of her pecs and hang down from there
-she has some malnourished hanging african tits, also they were too high. I think this is the torpedo shape you actually wanted.
- the torso and the neck are generally too big for her head.

Like this?

[Anonymous No.4204739]

>>4204738
Oh well I guess I still put the tits an inch or two too high.
The torpedoes should be a little bit lower on her chest.

[Anonymous No.4204808]

WIP. I feel like I'm going backwards with the way I draw things instead of improving.

[Anonymous No.4204815]

>>4204619
This was supposed to be a quick sketch, but then I just finished without pulling out

[Anonymous No.4205010]

>>4204815
Very nice, but so damn skinny. Looks like her legs could snap any second.

[Anonymous No.4205036]

>>4201410

[Anonymous No.4205045]

>>4205036
its just so bland and unoriginal. its hard to get into anime when it's like people just click the "Randomize Character" button over and over until they get something they'd want to fuck.

[Anonymous No.4205086]

>>4204451
thanks so much my blog is
>>4194883

>>4204815
i love your stuff

[Anonymous No.4205091]

>>4203829
Is there a reason you never draw on normal clear paper?
I really like your stuff. I'm just wondering

[Anonymous No.4205096]

>>4205091
He's poor so he has to use whatever he can get his hands on.

[Anonymous No.4205099]

>>4203369
Why do you like making fem Gollums kek

[Anonymous No.4205105]

>>4197059
the trees are very old Disney, nice.

[Anonymous No.4205108]

>>4204815
>I just finished without pulling out
that's what he said

[Anonymous No.4205148]

>>4204739
god bless, anon, I'll go back and fix this thing.

[Anonymous No.4205154]

Help

[Anonymous No.4205157]

>>4205036
I love your work alot Orenji but what do your base construction look like?
And what would you recommend i look at for anatomy and construction if i like your bodies? ty

[Anonymous No.4205166]

>>4201410
>goblin
yawn

[Anonymous No.4205211]

>>4203829
Thanks for your tips, it's helpful
My problem is that I draw mindlessly, I don't think of what I draw it just happens, my visual library isn't very large either, so I default into the same poses or face angles a lot. I should grind a bunch of poses and think more like you do, I rarely use refs

[Anonymous No.4205238]

>>4204649
sumika best girl

[Anonymous No.4205286]

>>4205154
back leg looks off. maybe move it up and to the left a bit and push the toes up. weight on the foot should be distributed between back of foot and toes/claw tips. back horn's lines should stand out less than front horn's lines. Proportion of the front hand seems off but that might come down to stylization. reconsider/redraw the knuckle bumps of the front hand maybe

[Anonymous No.4205327]

>>4204738
Edited it a bit before I do some errands.

I believe your tips really did help me out anon!

[Anonymous No.4205358]

working on a design for the back of a hoodie/tee

[Anonymous No.4205502]

>>4205091
dots are like grids but not as obtrusive an they help me line some trickier things up when drawing larger an needing to be precise with something like say a face looking straight forward

>>4205096
i'm not thaaat poor ;-;

>>4197059
wow this background really is gorgeous, good job nwn

>>4205211
glad i was able to help!! an yeah it's a;alsdjf a bit hard an believe u me, i spent a good few weeks if not months fumbling around trying to get the hang of it (an as you can clearly see from the amount i erase i still super fumble around with it, secret is practice practice practice an then eventually u fill ur brain with so many poses u can jus poop em out like kjg almost, at least hopef that's what'll happen lol

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[Anonymous No.4205634]

>>4204808
maybe try thicker lines in places that would overhang and cast shadow, like her neck, hat, and collar. proportions look good but maybe raise shoulders a bit
>>4204815
awesome piece, i can always recognize your linework and proportions. the scorbunny may be slightly too hidden behind the heels but not that noticable
>>4205036
very attractive linework and girl, freckles are a good charm point and i wouldn't know what to improve

[Anonymous No.4205648]

>>4205566
>nails done, hair done, everything did
>n-n-nails done, hair done, everything did
oh u fancy, huh?

[Anonymous No.4205660]

Ive been having tourble picking a color palette for this guy, any advice/opinions?

[Anonymous No.4205661]

>>4205045
Cry harder

[Anonymous No.4205684]

>>4205648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_VsAvS1kuo

[Anonymous No.4205701]

Henlo, how can I make money from this art? I really don't wanna be a waitress any longer

Please critique, I wanna get better (Also tell me how to make $$)

[Anonymous No.4205710]

>>4205701
that art in particular? find a buy ig.

how to make money in general: self promote, have a blog of some sort, post in in artshare discord servers and such, pay the blog provider to promote your work in some way, and then take commissions, then maybe get picked up by a studio if you want. or start a patreon. more follwers = more chances for money making.

for comissions, more sin = more moolah

[Anonymous No.4205720]

>>4205660
Depends. What's the color palette of the other characters?

[Anonymous No.4205722]

>>4205720
this is the only other one so far

[Anonymous No.4205727]

>>4205722
fuck why did i never think to create a shadow like you just did

[Anonymous No.4205732]

>>4205727
the one where I just made the selection of the character, filled it black and then puppet transformed it?

yeah its a neat trick

[Anonymous No.4205736]

>>4205722
god this reads so poorly

[Anonymous No.4205738]

>>4205722
>>4205727
>>4205732
/beg/

[Anonymous No.4205741]

>>4205740

new threde

[Anonymous No.4205749]

>>4205736
what do you mean, and how would I improve it?

[Anonymous No.4205752]

>>4204031
I don't want this to sound bad, I like your smaller doodles, but I have to ask, do you do studies and actively practice, or do you just draw for fun?

[Anonymous No.4205762]

>>4205710

Thanks anon! I'd really like to join some discords to form a community. I'm fairly new to this, all I've done is just post on my website and Instagram. Do you know of any good servers or groups in particular I could join that have worked well for you? :)

[Anonymous No.4205768]

>>4205762
well nothing works well for me but I'd suggest discords of large communities, like the vinesauce discord or something

[Anonymous No.4205781]

>>4205722
From the thumbnail I had no fucking idea what this was, which is a bad sign since humans process things real quick

Colours, hues and tones are all over the place, warm dark sun, bright background and foreground

Level of detail is sporadic and weird - feels like the crow, pumpkin and the windmill have more detail than the figure - try to simplify and suggest more with less

Fucking awesome energy though, sweet shape design and I kinda dig the hatching texture, poorly distributed and samey though it is

Lots of soul. Keep it up. Gonna make it

[Anonymous No.4205792]

>>4202639
Who?

[Anonymous No.4205793]

>>4205781
so

- make the pumpkin monotone to fit with the other bg elements

- make the bg elements darker

would this work?

this piece was a first in trying to introduce a bg with my character models so I kindly accept this kind of feedback

[Anonymous No.4205798]

>>4205722
why are people responding more to this one anyways it was just a reference for the other post

[Anonymous No.4205804]

>>4205792
you

[Anonymous No.4206081]

[Anonymous No.4206256]

Might start coloring this thing soon

[Anonymous No.4206668]

>>4205793
Well, ask yourself, what are you trying to draw attention to? You don't need to show everyone you know how to draw a pumpkin or a windmill when the whole point of the drawing is to show off the character. So give the character the most contrast, detail, popping colours, 3D techniques, etc

[Anonymous No.4206864]

>>4205684
https://youtu.be/ZenXuQBgbgk

[Anonymous No.4208185]

>>4203404
Love your coloring

[Anonymous No.4208657]

Finished this lumpy guy, did two versions with black and colored shading. I know shading with black is bad, and it was mainly a placeholder for the colored shading version, but I like both

[Anonymous No.4209420]

>>4197557
Wasting time

[Anonymous No.4209664]

>>4204815
Where can I see more of your stuff?