/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4195469]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4184515

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

thoughtful critique betters both parties. help each other and try not to get assblasted.

[Anonymous No.4195473]

finally new thread
here is rapunzel big ass

[Anonymous No.4195475]

also head

[Anonymous No.4195480]

>>4195473
are you usin refs and slapping animu face on it?
the hair is garbage, feets too and it seems to me the left leg is bigger than her right one and her neck is almost in her right shoulder

[Anonymous No.4195484]

>>4195475
based 5 head

[Anonymous No.4195485]

tell me everything wrong about this
dont pull your punches

[Anonymous No.4195486]

>>4195475
hahahagagagaa butthead hahahahaahaha

[Anonymous No.4195491]

looking for critique
have not gotten any critique on my last 3 drawings
I don't understand why

[Anonymous No.4195492]

>>4195485
/alt/ would love it

[Anonymous No.4195493]

>>4195480

yes this was my reference but i changed other things too
yes you are rght about everytthing

[Anonymous No.4195496]

>>4195491
made this too, even though its not a serious drawing, any crit would be nice
maybe a guide on digital coloring and blending, despite me not really using either of those

[Anonymous No.4195497]

>>4195491
>critique of some fucking sketches

[Anonymous No.4195502]

>>4195496
and the refs
>>4195497
okay if you want to be a bitch then critique the fucking shrek

>crabs complain about /beg/s not doing finished work
>do finished work
>nobody fucking critiques
>get a response telling me /beg/s should do quick experimental practice
>post quick experimental practice
>CRAB FUCKING COMPLAINS ITS FUCKING SKETCHES
HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?

[Anonymous No.4195504]

>>4195496
>have not gotten any critique on my last 3 drawings
>I don't understand why

no shit

one hand is way bigger
shrinked right leg or retarded big feets
captain america torso
memeshit

[Anonymous No.4195506]

>>4195469
How'd I do?

[Anonymous No.4195511]

>>4195492
whats /alt/?

[Anonymous No.4195513]

>>4195504
I agree with all of those besides
>captain america torso
that's just the front cape thing billowing, unlike the ref, wanted to put emphasis on the fatness of shrek
anyway, how is it "no shit", whats the "no shit you dont deserve a critique" that comes up on the critique board in the beginner general?

yeah I know its meme shit, I occasionally ask my group chat to give me something to draw, this was the first suggestion

[Anonymous No.4195524]

>>4195469
God-tier OP image

[Anonymous No.4195528]

where’s the best place to start learning anatomy? I’ve looked through the sticky(s) and don’t have solid grasp where to start. Should I start with gestures or overall? I’ve dabbled with loomis, it’s not for me

[Anonymous No.4195529]

I've read this three times and I'm not sure what he's referring to. Does he mean the ratio of width to height will change since it appears to be getting "shorter" with distance?

[Anonymous No.4195532]

>>4195513
you are not entitled to a critique, and chances are people gonna pass you for a lot of reasons and one of them are joke/meme drawings even if they are somehow finished like yours because it looks like its more for kicks than an actual drawing where you put effort, thats the perception it gives, you can always scream in all caps " PLEASE HELP ME TO IMPROVE ,ANY CRITIQUE???

[Anonymous No.4195540]

>>4195528
draw a box, anatomy for sculptors

draw a box it´s just for you to understand things on a 3D space so you don´t fucking symbol draw which is the 99% of what holds begs, after that you can tackle whatever

[Anonymous No.4195545]

>>4195532
man, then I guess there's no point to posting in here then, right?
I mean, the OP is just false advertising then, looks like this isn't the place for critique or asking for advice, and definitely do not feel free to post the smallest exercise

looks like we have to start up ANOTHER general, one specifically for critique, right?
no because that would be fucking annoying and they would tell us to go to /beg/, because surprise surprise, the /beg/ gen is for critiquing shitty /beg/ drawings like mine

[Anonymous No.4195553]

roast me

[Anonymous No.4195560]

>>4195553
God is going to roast you in hell desu

[Anonymous No.4195561]

>>4195545
jesus dude im not sure if you are being ironic or not, but just be grateful if you get a critique, it's not like every drawing posted here will get one and there's several reasons for that

[Anonymous No.4195565]

>>4195545
Dude a lot of people, myself included, post and don't get comments. Either there is nothing remarkably wrong or everything is so wrong it's impossible to say where to start, or somewhere in between. Not even to mention that most of this thread are themselves beginners and are in no position to offer critique. You post art here to contribute to the board and if you get a comment thats good, if you get helpful advice even better, but you aren't required or entitled to a response. It also usually helps to explain specifically what you want help with based on a perceived problem in your drawing which is particularly pertinent when they are just studies and sketches and not finished pieces.

Critique is mostly relevant to the draw thread to fine tune composition, lighting, detailed anatomy etc., what you will get here is "work on this more" because you are lacking fundamentals, you can't expect a fucking redline of a half assed meme drawing and some quick sketches

[Anonymous No.4195569]

>>4195553
haha my name is michael

[Anonymous No.4195574]

>>4195569
St. Michael is the archangel destined to destroy Satan in the book of Revelation.
So it's a cool name.

[Anonymous No.4195576]

>>4195574
yes, I have a painting of that as my phone background, or he's smiting a random demon
pretty cool stuff

[Anonymous No.4195578]

>>4195565
oi stop that, you are not supposed to be helpful and make sense.

[Anonymous No.4195580]

>>4195565
>>4195561
fuck I realized I'm being annoying and shitty
just been harsh getting critiques from anybody besides my mother nowadays, so I'm just stuck in the dark not knowing if its because I'm not beg and I'm making the flaws in my drawings out to be worse than they are, or if they're just so shit people are afraid to say anything
I know that you guys know how frustrating it is to ask for a critique for days and just be left sitting there blind
real sorry about my shitty attitude

[Anonymous No.4195583]

>>4195580
don't worry anon we can NOT make it together

[Anonymous No.4195594]

yikes

[Anonymous No.4195609]

>>4195580
What resources do you use to learn?
gotta do more than watch proko anon
read Bridgman?

[Anonymous No.4195624]

>>4195609
I don't watch proko, to be completely honest with you, and this'll probably piss some people off, but I don't really uh use any other drawings or books aside from drawings I enjoy. most of my stuff is either from real pictures, real life, or imagination/memory, or from the very few videos of artists doing work/teaching that I like. I watch the vilppu courses at least, have some downloaded too
already know what the advice for that's going to be, I did read bridgeman, just so you know, filled maybe 7 pages making my way through it to pass time in highschool, could probably do a more proper study now

[Anonymous No.4195633]

>>4195624
Admittedly I have very little in way of study myself.
Me >>4195553
I got most of my anatomy from comic drawings. But your construction drawing without reading up on the experts on anatomy will come up short.
It's like trying to build a house from just looking at one that's done.

[Anonymous No.4195642]

can i be an animechad now?

[Anonymous No.4195644]

Posted this without realizing a new thread was created but: How would I go about drawing/shading this girls hair, or any Afro-textured hair really, in pen? I've bee drawing with ball-point pen a lot but I'm stumped on how to capture the curliness or frizzyness of the hair.

[Anonymous No.4195664]

Thoughts ples

[Anonymous No.4195667]

Yes I've tried Loomis. Still need help

[Anonymous No.4195671]

>>4195664
The place where the thigh and knee meet is off. Also calves too thicc

[Anonymous No.4195674]

>>4195644
Idk because I'm /beg/ af but if you go on pinterest there are tons of drawings of curly haired mixed girls like that, maybe that will help you.

[Anonymous No.4195676]

>>4195667
Is this trolling?

[Anonymous No.4195678]

>>4195667
ayy

[Anonymous No.4195694]

>>4195667
I'm still a beg too, so not sure if this is the right advice.
First, rotate your fucking picture right side up and resize it before posting it. Secondly, what you need to learn from Loomis is to draw things with volume, as if they are in 3D and they have depth and draw things out of simple shapes. Clearly you didn't do this in this drawing. Honestly, you're probably trolling, but if you're not, I understand that it's difficult to read something and really extrapolate what exactly you're supposed to take from it, which is why saying, "Go read x" isn't super helpful.

[Anonymous No.4195696]

>>4195667
Keep working with loomis. You don't "try" loomis and then become amazing, it's not a pill you pop once to cure some illness,

[Anonymous No.4195699]

Just start going digital yesterday.
Pls give some crit,especially on the coloring

[Anonymous No.4195707]

To the anon who posted pic related in the last thread, is that a character you made up? I find myself looking at it a lot. You should do more of her.

[Anonymous No.4195714]

>>4195553
Better than gains goblin

[Anonymous No.4195733]

please bully my WIP

[Anonymous No.4195742]

>>4195674

Yeah I've collected a good amount of curly/afro-texture haired girls, I just haven't attempted to draw some of them cause I'd have no idea what to do once I get to the hair. With pencil I could probably make it work, but idk about pen.

[Anonymous No.4195759]

>>4195644
same with anything: block in basic values, then add detail

[Anonymous No.4195769]

>>4195553
Lucifer is supposed to be a soft femboi, not some bulky Illidan wannabe.

[Anonymous No.4195770]

>>4195714
I accept your back-handed compliment
I gotta draw more things that aren't gay porn

[Anonymous No.4195773]

>>4195769
I know he's traditionally more slender but I wanted to draw a bara bottom
The pit of fire is fueled by pure protein I guess

[Anonymous No.4195784]

>>4195553
oh shit not another gains goblin with shitty speech bubbles

[Anonymous No.4195791]

>>4195733
In the smaller drawing, hand closer is whack as fuck.
The eyes are way too slanted, even by anime and stylistic standards.
The perspective is in general all over the place.
Tip for the perspective, even when it comes to a style as simple as yours, do 3D sketching beforehand, as it makes all the difference.

[Anonymous No.4195808]

[Anonymous No.4195815]

>>4195676
he’s legitimate
https://www.deviantart.com/otakuking69

[Anonymous No.4195817]

>>4195815
Is he just a fifth grader or is he a little retarded?

[Anonymous No.4195820]

>>4195784
Hey now- my faces are slightly better and I'm not hostile to criticism.

[Anonymous No.4195838]

[Anonymous No.4195840]

Goofy sniffs all of Micks angel dust. How do I improve my panel structure

[Anonymous No.4195854]

Hey /beg/, have you ever tried drawing while drunk or high? I never did and I was wondering how woupd it feel like.

[Anonymous No.4195902]

>>4195545
>take a giant steaming shit
>"critique it, boys"
Here's my critique, come back in a year when maybe you know a little bit more about how to draw, maybe you'll get more value out of a critique then.
I mean I just don't understand you people. I never felt compelled to post my day one drawings here when they were that bad. The critique is that you suck and everything is wrong, what more could you possibly be looking for? At least ask people a specific question like "how do I draw heads" or something.

[Anonymous No.4195904]

>>4195902
Oh you already said sorry. I'm sorry for being a dick then.

[Anonymous No.4195948]

>>4195475
Try to keep the head's shape spherical, the main thing I see is that the proportions are a bit off and the angles do not match on the different parts of the face like eyebrows and mouth edges.

Eyes and nose are cute and well made tough good job at those if you put similar care on the rest of the face your work will be much better.

Keep working Anon you got this!

[Anonymous No.4195953]

>>4195948
There is no part of the skull that is a "sphere". The cranium recedes back in space and is more of an egg.

[Anonymous No.4195955]

>>4195953
Yeah I know, but the original was not even close to that.

[Anonymous No.4195979]

Trying to learn about tidders but they feel off. Also i feel like a single mechanical pencil isnt good for trying to learn about line weight, what is a better tool if there is one?

[Anonymous No.4196004]

>>4195699
Welcome to digital!

I think your picture has too much white space, which blinds the eye and make coloring/shading way harder than it needs to be. If you are not using layers then start using them because the lineart is also difficult to see like that.

Otherwise the coloring has one glaring issue, there are almost no mid tones it is going from the lightest to the darkest value very fast with barely anything in between. If you wish to improve you coloring you will need more midtones.

Another thing that bugs me is that I cannot seem to find the light source it seems to be coming from top right but I can also see it on the front and since there are few midtones both light sources just melt into one massive white area.

Questions?

[Anonymous No.4196008]

>>4195948
Thank you you made it so much better and i see now how much i half assed its always embarrasing when someone does a paintover
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4196044]

Trying to figure out where the jaw bones, the ears etc. are in this image by tracing over it but I'm completely mucking it up. Could some kind soul show me the lines and geometry that my inner eye is to beg to figure out?

[Anonymous No.4196054]

[Anonymous No.4196056]

[Anonymous No.4196058]

>>4196056
you have learned nothing and all your 20+ last drawings have the same mistakes

[Anonymous No.4196091]

>>4196058
What mistakes are these? I get told a lot of mistakes. i just want to get better

[Anonymous No.4196096]

>>4196056

[Anonymous No.4196099]

>>4196096

[Anonymous No.4196100]

>>4196091 not the other guy but look at the forearms

[Anonymous No.4196102]

>>4196091

you must learn gesture first and then apply form with good perspective
your drawings are completely flat

[Anonymous No.4196106]

>>4196100
Ok? So that's the only issue? Surely it can't be that bad then?


>>4196102
What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.4196107]

day 10 of figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4196224]

Pic related is part of the last two days that I’ve been watching vilppu and trying to feel the form. How long do I do this stuff before moving on to training other teqniques or focusing on the head or something?

[Anonymous No.4196251]

how do I get more confident with my values and colours? And does anyone have any good refs or tutorials for painting cloth?

[Anonymous No.4196257]

>>4195485
if there was such as a thing as too much soul, this piece would be it.

[Anonymous No.4196259]

>>4195502
>WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?
become bitter and resentful and crabby just like the rest of us. looks like you've got a good start too.

[Anonymous No.4196265]

>>4196224
you can do whatever you want, but i'll just say this: what you've done there is completely unimpressive and took you way too long to do. those proportions are too janky and the way you rendered certain areas of the body it just negates the form of that particular area entirely.

practice, practice, practice.

[Anonymous No.4196267]

>>4195496
It's perfect, good job. want to come work at dreamworks? Ill let you clean the toilets.

[Anonymous No.4196273]

>>4196265
So how long do people typically practice this until they get good? And how many hours per week.

[Anonymous No.4196292]

>>4195979
I use an 8h drawing pencil

[Anonymous No.4196312]

>>4195854
I was drawing tipsy the other day and it was great, lines just flowed and you don’t even think about them, you can visualize a lot better, etc. I don’t have any weed since I lost my plug months ago, but I can imagine it’s even better.

[Anonymous No.4196340]

what's some good /beg/ shit to put on christmas list? I already have a drawing tablet

[Anonymous No.4196346]

>>4195506
looks pretty spot-on

[Anonymous No.4196352]

>>4196340
What program do you use?
I draw with CSP and I have no skills

[Anonymous No.4196368]

>>4196352
I've used SAI 2.0 for ages, even paid for a legitimate license only to find CSP is cheaper and has more features. Haven't bought CSP yet though.

[Anonymous No.4196397]

>>4196273
>how long do people typically practice this
They never stop, honestly. It's about your overall feeling of comfort and line confidence - professionals are able to do what you did with cleaner linework in a shorter span of time, and they really don't have to spend too much time thinking about any one aspect of it because they're practiced enough to know where they'll lay down their values, where their light source(s) is coming from, and most importantly why they are practicing that particular form. Artists who do this for a living typically practice with a purpose, a goal of what they want to get out of this in mind.

Also, there's no set number of hours per week, or day. Really, it varies from person to person for everything. Jascha Heifetz would typically practice scales for 2 hours a day, rarely more by his own accounting, and he was (and to some still is) considered the greatest violinist of the century, his technical ability with the instrument a match for any Paganini composition.

So I guess the best advice I could give you and any other /beg/inner is to not worry about how long something takes you, but to figure out a way to enjoy doing it while also trying to do it for a reason. The goal in art is to coordinate your hand and mind to work together, all at once. I would challenge myself to try and do complex forms and shapes, then go back to them after a day or so and be able to see my many errors and mistakes I made because I was looking at it with a fresh set of eyes. Artists, writers, anyone in any creative field - they can get bad tunnel vision when they work on 1 thing for an extended period of time, so it's good to challenge yourself but also step away for a few and do some revising. Oh, but try to finish whatever you start too (without rushing it). It's how you build your discipline and that's an important quality to have anyway.

[Anonymous No.4196419]

>>4196397
Thank you for this excellent reply.

[Anonymous No.4196428]

is this how construction works?

[Anonymous No.4196435]

Can I get good at drawing bodies and faces if I never intend to go to drawing circles with really models? I’m an introvert so that isn’t happening.

[Anonymous No.4196441]

>>4196273
>>4196397
I once heard a useful saying, I think there's a similar sentiment somewhere on drawabox. It's something like:
If you rarely practice, you'll never improve. If you practice often but aimlessly, then you'll never regress, but you'll rarely improve. Only focused practice will give you real improvements.

[Anonymous No.4196455]

How can i make this look cleaner. It looks extremely messy. Besides my tard understanding of hands and cloths. What else could i work on?

[Anonymous No.4196459]

>>4195838
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4196513]

>>4196428
thats shapes/forms

[Anonymous No.4196516]

>>4196455
use a finer tip like 0.2 and uhhhhh dont make messy lines

[Anonymous No.4196520]

>>4196435
yes you can now go and grind those fundies

[Anonymous No.4196522]

>>4196455
Nothing. Sketches are supposed to be messy until you ink them.

[Anonymous No.4196534]

>>4196455
Hold the pencil the right way. Don’t fill in your shadows like you’re using a colored pencil or writing, turn the pencil to the side and make long confident lines.
Practice dynamic drawing, there’s a few tutorials on YouTube that are pretty good.
Break the image down to its essential pieces and if it reads right, then go to the next step of adding details.

Lastly, stop drawing with your wrist, it affects your line weight.

[Anonymous No.4196564]

Sorry for the unfinished wip. I couldn't decide where to put the arm/leg. Am I on the right track or should I just kill myself?

[Anonymous No.4196568]

>>4195902
so I guess fill out another notebook with loomis, vilppu, proko, bridgeman, and drawabox, AGAIN? for the second time in my life?
alright, see you in a year anon, I'm willing to take the challenge
I know someone else told me my perspective is a bit wonky, I'll pick up some perspective shit too, always hated doing that
should definitely get me into the habit of drawing every day instead of only for a week every few months

>>4195854
just did last night, but I don't know if it counts because I wasn't doing anything illegal. just the usual sleeping meds I take every night, more sedated than high. had some idea from a previous drawing about some old looking elves. its on paper though and I dont have a scanner or decent quality camera, but they don't really look anything special or druggy

[Anonymous No.4196578]

How should I start if I want to draw extremely self deprecating images of myself?

[Anonymous No.4196583]

>>4196578
With loomis

[Anonymous No.4196588]

>>4196578
a mirror

[Anonymous No.4196613]

>>4195817
dude claims he’s 18 iirc

[Anonymous No.4196621]

>>4196428
ok now move on to the muscles that are in the shapes

[Anonymous No.4196629]

>>4195553
faces disgusting
proportions disgusting
text difficult to read
unironically needs some loomis

[Anonymous No.4196638]

>>4195553
This may be a small nitpicky complaint but the dicks don't seem very appealing at all. They're just tubes here so try giving them some more character.

[Anonymous No.4196648]

>>4196568
if you want to improve then you have to come to terms with being shitty at art. It's painful, but it's the only way. Once you come to terms with that, then start to objectively look at your artworkt, not with an 'woe is me' wimp disposition but an actually objective judgment of what is lacking. This is how you improve.

You've been bratting out that no one replies you seriously but fail to realize that you have not made the effort to be serious. "Oh but I draw so much! I went through a whole sketchbook drawing!", you might reply, trying to deflect all blame, but in the end the only one who you're deceiving is yourself from your actual potential to becoming good.

[Anonymous No.4196657]

>>4196648
I wouldn't be in /beg/ if I didn't think I was shitty
and I wouldn't say "this will get me into the habit of drawing more than a week every few months" if I was going to say "I draw so much"
anyway, I have put the effort in, more than 7 hours on one drawing, an orc, but everybody said it was shit and gave no helpful crit, until someone responded and said "do quick expiremental sketches" so I did, and now someone replied in a dickish manner saying quick sketches dont deserve critique
so I have no fucking idea what you guys want so I guess I'll just fucking go from the beginning and stop pissing people off with my drawings

[Anonymous No.4196659]

>drawing lass to get used to drawing peeps
>reach hips + thighs
>suddenly decide to draw a cameltoe
>9001% increase in my sex drive + free boner
how to stop cum brain

[Anonymous No.4196670]

Tried to follow anon's advice.Made the wrist thinner.I feel like the arm is maybe too short but I'm not sure.Is this any better?

[Anonymous No.4196671]

>>4196657
These guys don't want anything, giving critique to shitters is basically charity so just cut n run with whatever tips you get.
Also every time you argue with crabs on 4chan God takes a picture away from your lifetime.

[Anonymous No.4196675]

>>4196044
One of my failed attempts. Tried using the lines coming off the glasses as guides.

Someone, have mercy on me and show me how it's supposed to be done.

[Anonymous No.4196682]

>>4196659
PUDDIPUDDIPUDDIPUDDI
Man this made me nostalgic, when even was the gigapuddi event on /b/? Like 10 years ago?

[Anonymous No.4196690]

>>4196682
Nearly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCWdSplLAcQ

[Anonymous No.4196702]

>>4196257
I'll take that as a compliment.

[Anonymous No.4196703]

>>4196690
GOD WHAT THE FUCK
how can things be so fucking different FUCKING 10 YEARS AGO
what the fuck happened
its like a different fucking universe

[Anonymous No.4196714]

>>4196703
I seriously dont remember 4chan being so 2003 in 2010, then again I only ever went on /v/ and /co/

inb4 >/v/

[Anonymous No.4196721]

>>4196714
>/co/

[Anonymous No.4196727]

So... yea... Expect proportions, what else could i improve?

[Anonymous No.4196730]

>>4196659
Just coom b4 drawing

[Anonymous No.4196743]

>>4196727
Lighting is whack, left boob looks like a small pocket despite being closer to the viewer.
Left arm pit is similarly whack as a result.
Perspective is off, particularly around the hips.
Android possesses two right hands, possibly due to a manufacturing error.

[Anonymous No.4196756]

I've been on /beg/ since March of 2018, I has anyone here been /beg/ longer?

[Anonymous No.4196764]

>>4196564
not /beg/, assuming you didn't spend 20h making that

[Anonymous No.4196769]

>>4196756
I started in March 2018 too

[Anonymous No.4196771]

>>4196564
Would fuck

[Anonymous No.4196773]

>>4196756
Dude you are doing well, I have been here for like 5 years now and I couldn't even confidently say I'm better than you.

[Anonymous No.4196805]

>>4196756
since around 2013 maybe 2014
I'm the dude that got in a fight with the crabs

[Anonymous No.4196807]

>>4196805
pyw pls

[Anonymous No.4196812]

>>4196807

>>4195491
>>4195496
and here's a freebee

[Anonymous No.4196840]

>>4196812
Do you never finish anything? Iktf.

[Anonymous No.4196842]

>>4195529
Stop trying to learn shit through these terrible wall texts. Learn from artists who aren't so insecure that they have to rely on stupid shit like this.

Watch the Marshall Vandruff Perspective Video Series and you'll instantly realize the importance of this image as well as understand it. If you want to reinforce your perspective, read D'Amelio's book on perspective.

[Anonymous No.4196846]

>>4196840
almost never, but I've been getting much closer recently after someone on a different board chewed me out that nobody would higher or commission or anything anybody who doesn't have any finished pieces
this is the closest I have ever become to finishing something, and anons just trashed on it. 8 whole hours, it's aparently pure hot steaming diarrhea and I have no idea what's wrong with it aside from some weird perspective on the hammer, and anons not being able to tell it's supposed to have midget proportions.

[Anonymous No.4196854]

>>4196846
It looks like it's floating, is the first thing that comes to mind.

But please tell me why people learn to paint before they learn to draw. It's extremely irritating every time I see a fully rendered painting that sucks because the drawing underneath is trash.

[Anonymous No.4196855]

Tips on making her look plump? I tried adding shading to simulate fat rolls but couldn’t figure out the placement. Also critique please.

[Anonymous No.4196857]

>>4196854
my fucking god do we have to go over this again in the thread
all I was doing up until literally 5 days ago (I have it all cataloged) ALL I was doing was drawing undetailed not very much effort put into them drawings
I learned to draw before I attempted to paint, because I was lazy, and then people complained
I think I have said this at least twice in this very fucking thread holy shit I'm so fucking tired of all of you

[Anonymous No.4196860]

>>4196564
Draw some shota in this style and bathe in coomer bucks.

[Anonymous No.4196861]

>>4196564
Hot.
You got a blog?

[Anonymous No.4196864]

>>4196846
The head also has perspective issues as well as the pose being really stiff(the imp proportions probably exaggerate the stiffness even more). It also feels like one arm is shorter than the other.
Have you tried painting around without a plan? The closest I ever got to finishing was a pic that wasn't really planned out with a good underdrawing so there wasn't as much pressure. Once it looked like it could be something I looked for a ref and that gave me energy.(this guy btw: >>4196773 )

[Anonymous No.4196865]

>>4196756
I've been drawing consistently for ten years and I've never left beginner level.
Welcome to the shitshow

[Anonymous No.4196866]

>>4196044
>>4196675
Send help.

[Anonymous No.4196867]

>>4196857
Dude, it’s just a bad drawing, don’t take it personal. We’re all learning here and we all suck in our own ways. If you’re gonna throw a tantrum every time you get a response you don’t like you’re definitely /ngmi/.

[Anonymous No.4196868]

Today I learned that no background is better than a shitty half-assed attempt at a background. But I like the camel so I'm okay with this drawing.

[Anonymous No.4196875]

>>4196857
What do you consider "learned to draw."

When I say that you learn to paint before learning to draw I don't mean it literally. I mean that you just into painting before you even learn to draw well.

You can't tell me that you know how to draw when you haven't followed basic perspective which means you lack--as shown--in many other fundamentals.

If you want something different: I can say that your drawing looks stiff. Not dynamic. This is because you've probably never done gesture drawings or have barely put time into it.

But yea. It's a bit annoying when I see people understanding how to properly shade something with photoshop but they're really just polishing a turd.

Learn the fundamentals in drawing then you can move onto painting. Otherwise you get stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.4196901]

>>4196867
look I appreciate the critique, I save all the critiques I get so I can get better, yeah, should've put a shadow or fixed the background, or in general learn perspective
its just the annoying remark
>But please tell me why people learn to paint before they learn to draw. It's extremely irritating every time I see a fully rendered painting that sucks because the drawing underneath is trash.

>>4196875
well, I made my way through loomis, going back a few pages if I missed a day, randomly doodling loomis on my offtime too along with serious study, then I did drawabox, done drawabox possibly 4 times throughout the years, mostly just the first two lessons, have a shoebox just full of fucking drawabox line practice papers, but my lines always eventually disintegrate into pretty much chicken scratch, I studied anatomy rigorously, fucking loved doing that, did that whenever, from photos, videos, books, real life (I own a skull, and I have a body), also that includes life drawings I guess too, drew a fair bit from life, just because it was easy to have a topic to draw, also followed along to the bridgeman book and watched and copied along to many vilppu videos as well as the occasional proko video which is nice for anatomy too.

really only things I haven't studied rigorously was color theory, because I couldn't afford anything beyond pencil and paper until recently and perspective, because I'm lazy

also, there was a two year period from beginning of 2017 to may of this year where I stopped drawing because of mental illness
and I mean, thanks for complimenting my shading, but, sorry to destroy your perception, that was my very first time shading in photoshop and it was using the default mixer brush just using the knowledge I had from traditional art

[Anonymous No.4196906]

>>4196901
You're so full of shit.

I can believe everything up to the point where you say you "studied anatomy rigorously." What in the fuck does that mean? You copied a bunch of pictures of muscles and bones and threw the book aside? You do realize that studying anatomy requires more than just copying shit, right? Because there's no way you "rigorously" studied Anatomy and make this shit.

[Anonymous No.4196931]

>>4196906
man, I'll just post my deviantart from 2016, I'm tired and I have to start drawabox again and I'm setting up my planner
https://www.deviantart.com/michachondriak/gallery/all
maybe I'll take some pics of more of the pages but it's gonna be shitty camera quality so probably not, but I've got probably half a sketchbook worth of anatomy practice in various forms
either way, if you insist I'll just fucking study anatomy more, its not like I hate it
here, have an anatomy study from 2 days ago that only recieved the reply "nobody cares about bara"

[Anonymous No.4197003]

>>4196868
Awesome camel.

[Anonymous No.4197013]

>>4196044
>>4196675
>>4196866

[Anonymous No.4197015]

>>4196861
Thanks! I don't have a blog, no.

[Anonymous No.4197042]

>>4195759

I'm worried about blocking in values since it's in pen

[Anonymous No.4197131]

>>4196842
Ok will do, thanks. The wall of text is actually written by drawbox guy, usually the text is helpful along with his videos but that segment is fucking with me, especially since his example illustration appears to just be a flat plane rather than a box.

[Anonymous No.4197197]

you gotta place the circle (cranium) first, then draw the lines that intersect it. I did this roughly. Draw a straight line from the top of the ear to the edge of the eyebrow, then that gives you an idea of the orientation of the circle lines.

[Anonymous No.4197200]

Hello, please critique my 5 min skullys. Am I feeling the form well? The left ones were challenging. Am I being too ambitious for my skill level?

[Anonymous No.4197202]

>>4196868
Also here is the reference pic. Is this a good way to use references? not just copying it but trying to add a twist to the image?
>>4197003
thank you friend

[Anonymous No.4197203]

new drawing

one thing i tried is to apply what Villpu said in his video, to imagine the lines are like a flowing river, where it's more thicker on the bends

[Anonymous No.4197207]

>>4197015
You should get one. I wanna follow you!

[Anonymous No.4197212]

>>4195808
This makes me nauseous to look at.

[Anonymous No.4197225]

>>4197202
Please draw more camel related drawings

[Anonymous No.4197379]

[Anonymous No.4197381]

[Anonymous No.4197384]

[Anonymous No.4197385]

[Anonymous No.4197391]

I have a couple of questions, with the lasso tool on photoshop when i stop moving the pen it deletes the selection that i'm currently doing, is this normal or is a problem of the tablet ?
The other question is about the size of the tablet, i'm using a Huion 420 which has a working area of 4x2.23, i know that is not even recommended to draw on this kind of tablet but i bought it when i first started showing interest. So i wanna know what would be a good size to have for drawing.

[Anonymous No.4197403]

>>4197391
>buys the cheapest tablet on amazon
>expect it to do its job as good as a higher price range tablet

I own that exact model, on the same program with the h420 and the h640p (about 40-50$ if I remember correctly) the h420 is choppy and produces shitty lines, has constant problems on a number of programs, while the h640p, despite even being fucking bent from poor care, produces fine smooth lines and has less problems (mostly disconnect issues which are new and due to poor care of the usb cable)

the problem is the tablet, also the h640p is maybe double the size of the h420, and the size has not been a problem for me yet, though I am still a shit /beg/

[Anonymous No.4197405]

>>4197391
get the Huron h610 v2 pro. You'd always want at least a medium size tablet.

[Anonymous No.4197494]

Please help me out here by critiquing this guy.
Taking a stab at loomis in ps.
I also did this exercise irl, have been studying the proportions and it turned out fine, but here he looks kinda wonky.
Also any tips for improving linework in ps?

[Anonymous No.4197495]

Please help me out here by critiquing this guy.
Taking a stab at loomis in ps.
I also did this exercise irl, have been studying the proportions and it turned out fine, but here he looks kinda wonky.
Also any tips for improving linework in ps?

[Anonymous No.4197504]

>>4195485
the main figure feels a little stilted and the clothing needs more details but a lot of the surrounding people look quite good in a stylised way and radiate soul - you just gotta fix the centre image, personally I find lowering the upper eyelid so you cant see the whole iris makes it look more natural.

[Anonymous No.4197507]

Been working on using watercolour and combined digital/traditional work. I drew the lineart and used watercolour graphite to add shading - then used photoshop to clean and colour.

As much critique as possible on anything. Texture, shading, composition, colours, designs, etc.

[Anonymous No.4197510]

>>4197507
This sort of reminds me of Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, prolly cus of the dot cross-hatching. Neat stuff anon!

[Anonymous No.4197586]

how fucked up is my drawing? I don't think i'm all shit in painting but i certainly suck at draw

[Anonymous No.4197613]

>>4197013
>>4197197

[Anonymous No.4197614]

>>4196054
>(You)

[Anonymous No.4197651]

>>4195485
Work on the chickenscratching and replace them with flowing lines but it looks pretty damn good anon.

[Anonymous No.4197670]

Is good to copy yoh yoshinari eyes to get a better understanding of them?

[Anonymous No.4197685]

>>4197670
Yes.

[Anonymous No.4197693]

Am trying to learn how to draw cloths. I dont even know where to begin outside the basic shape. What are good sources to learn from about clothing. Or is there something i need to get a better understanding of prior to drawing clothing.

[Anonymous No.4197696]

>>4197586
Your eye and nose areas are alright. However once we look at the rest of the head sadly it falls apart. Please study the rest of the building blocks of the face and head, forehead, ears, chin, neck and so on. Ears are pet peeve of mine as so many artists neglect or hide them (Yeah I am looking at animes covering the ears with hair all the time) When ears are one of the core building blocks of the head, they are just as important as hair and eyes to know.

Another advice I can give is to draw the entire head first before adding the individual parts like eyes, that way you will be able to build the whole head before getting into the details.

Side note, having an eyepatch on to cover one eye is something that judgemental individuals can interpret as you covering it because you found that drawing the second eye and make it match the first one to be too difficult so you just hid it instead. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you had a different goal. Remember, drawing the building blocks of the face individually in a vacuum is way easier because they have do not have to fit with every other part from rest of the face/head but if you do need to draw the whole head then everything must fit together or else it won't look right.

[Anonymous No.4197700]

>>4197693
Start with drapes and sheets over objects.

[Anonymous No.4197727]

[Anonymous No.4197766]

a torso anatomy study, excuse the arms and legs, added them just to see if the torso looks ok

[Anonymous No.4197767]

>>4197403
>>4197405
To be fair, i never encounter any problem on the 420 besides the lasso thing, but maybe i got use to it being my first tablet. Thanks for the recommendations, will take a look at them.

[Anonymous No.4197768]

>>4197766
did this yesterday too

[Anonymous No.4197769]

and this

[Anonymous No.4197772]

Friendly reminder that confident drawings and not perfect drawings is what you should be aiming for.

[Anonymous No.4197777]

>>4197379
>>4197381
>>4197384
>>4197385
from what im seeing i think your trying to practice anatomy, stop it, it isnt time for that, improve your perspective and form understanding then go for anatomy

[Anonymous No.4197780]

>>4197727
Work on your faces

[Anonymous No.4197785]

>>4197780
>>4197727
>Work on your faces
work on everything my nigga damn

[Anonymous No.4197790]

>>4196931
>that ass
nigga im diamonds

[Anonymous No.4197850]

>>4197790
thanks, heres the original pic
yeah I know its shitty quality, but cmon

[Anonymous No.4197862]

Won't looking at naked women for figure drawing give your brain a dopamine rush and urges? How did the old masters like Michelangelo and Da Vinci during no nut November?

[Anonymous No.4197875]

>>4197862
They had sex with women (or in the case of Michelangelo, probably boys)

[Anonymous No.4197902]

Hi /beg/. Started drawing again this week after a decade of no drawing. Can I post here?

[Anonymous No.4197904]

>>4197902

[Anonymous No.4198078]

>>4197875
>probably boys
Patrician.

[Anonymous No.4198086]

>>4197203

[Anonymous No.4198150]

If I do studies like these every day, will I improve?

[Anonymous No.4198174]

>>4197777
I'll go back to that

[Anonymous No.4198195]

>>4197875
Wasn't Da Vinci a fan of homosexual activities also?

[Anonymous No.4198207]

>>4197197
Good advice. Thank you very much!
I see now that I made the main sphere follow the hair instead of the bone underneath as well...

[Anonymous No.4198251]

>>4198086
Pretty good, I love oni girls.

[Anonymous No.4198256]

>>4198195
It’s not gay if the boy is cute and girly, everybody knows that.

[Anonymous No.4198289]

>>4198150
why is your file deleted anon?

[Anonymous No.4198372]

>>4198207
okay i redid it for you to give back a bit to the community. If you follow the numbers and pay attention to the side notes, you can do this successfully every time. Follow the order or close to it but dont change it too much.

[Anonymous No.4198379]

>>4197766
>>4197768
>>4197769
another one, if you guys have any advice or see anything wrong with this please do tell.
I'm almost sure that the Trapezius is wrong but I'm not sure how it would really look in this pose

[Anonymous No.4198382]

>>4198379
heres the ref

[Anonymous No.4198392]

>>4195469
DELETE THIS

loomis' faces keep laughing at me

[Anonymous No.4198397]

>>4198372
>>4198207
Yup, if youre trying to do this to reference pics you always need to do this in order to reduce your mistakes:
Imagine them bald
1. Draw main perfect circle.
2. Draw line from top of ear to edge of closest eyebrow.
3. Draw perpendicular line to #2 line
4. Draw the foreshortened curve of circle by using the edge of the eye as outermost edge. The ends of the circle meet where the #3 lines touch the blue main circle #1
5. Draw the curved eyebrow line in foreshortening (imagine a cheese wheel and how it curves)
6. Place the imaginary middle line which curves all around features, keep in mind that the top of the curve on fore head needs to stay in the center and bottom needs to be in middle of chin.
7. From bottom of line #3 and #4 place curved line to middle of nose.
8. Place line from eyes by using the resting place for eyeglasses (blue arrow next to #3) to find placement.
9. Draw da chin

[Anonymous No.4198424]

>>4197696
Thx for the tips anon!

[Anonymous No.4198459]

Every time I try to draw a body with construction it ends up looking all retarded. When I draw by instinct and eyeballing it looks a lot better. How do I get better at construction so I can do it properly?

[Anonymous No.4198477]

>>4198379
>>4198382

Don't use such shitty ref next time. The back is very flatly lit and the muscles are stretched in this pose = less form.

Supraspinatus sits under the traps and has very little effect on surface form. The spine creates a gap between the erector spinae.

The red parts in pic are bone landmarks. I'm not that confident in my back anatomy but I think my version is more accurate.

[Anonymous No.4198519]

>>4198477
OH,
i didnt know the abs are even visible from this angle, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.4198544]

>>4195770
Thats pretty good anon, did you drawing that from a reference?

[Anonymous No.4198561]

>>4198372
>>4198397
Saved! Thanks again anon. A few pointers go such a long way when you're a total beginner.

[Anonymous No.4198562]

>>4198477
That reference isn’t flatly lit and you can definitely see the anatomy and form of the back with this reference.

[Anonymous No.4198571]

If I keep doing studies like this every day, will I get better?

[Anonymous No.4198572]

I tried that 3d Loomis thing

At least it not Chris chan teir

[Anonymous No.4198585]

>>4198477
>>4198379
i did another one!
also the erector spinae thing from the last one, i knew it goes under the lats but i wanted to show it anyway.
any how what do u think of this one?

[Anonymous No.4198586]

>>4198585
i hope this is a better ref

[Anonymous No.4198590]

>>4198585
>>4198586
i know i didnt do the pose correctly, ill make the next one better

[Anonymous No.4198591]

Ok guys, lay down your criticism. I tried to do a slightly different pose than this result, but it was too hard to frame it properly. I dunno if I failed.
I used a rougher brush to ink, happy with what I got, but doesnt looks good as the baphomet Ive drew previously.

[Anonymous No.4198594]

>>4198591
Quick colors.

[Anonymous No.4198611]

>>4195791
thanks senpai. is this any better?
>do 3D sketching beforehand, as it makes all the difference
like a grid?

[Anonymous No.4198612]

>>4198611
shit. forgot pic

[Anonymous No.4198616]

>>4198572
How long have you been drawing for?

[Anonymous No.4198634]

[Anonymous No.4198636]

>>4198372
>>4198397
Will try it with more heads until it sticks.

[Anonymous No.4198640]

Wip
I'm not even into Bara but this is the first time I'm having fun drawing in a week

[Anonymous No.4198649]

>>4198640
Draw more of him.

[Anonymous No.4198650]

Anything egregiously band so far?

[Anonymous No.4198654]

>>4198650
Bad*

[Anonymous No.4198676]

>>4198636
Dunno about the hidden part of the jawline.

[Anonymous No.4198709]

I don't know how to paint, Do I use a hard brush or a soft brush? When I do greyscale I just paint with paint apply brush.

[Anonymous No.4198712]

>>4198676
your ellipse is wrong
tilt it a little bit more to the left

[Anonymous No.4198714]

How do I learn observation?

[Anonymous No.4198717]

Nvm I'm too retarded to figure out hard edge brushes like wtf.

[Anonymous No.4198737]

>>4198717
That's far from the only thing you're too retarded to figure out though.

[Anonymous No.4198741]

>>4198737
True lulw. Tho you should pyw instead of just shitting on me.

[Anonymous No.4198761]

>>4198741
I already did :)

[Anonymous No.4198768]

>>4198741
Where?

[Anonymous No.4198780]

>>4198086
>>4198768
here :)

[Anonymous No.4198788]

>>4198780
Oh I see what you're doing you fucking pussy, that isn't yours you're trying to get me to shit on someone for no reason. Why do you even bother posing here? NGMI crab omegalul

[Anonymous No.4198794]

>>4198780

you replied to my drawing this is not your art

[Anonymous No.4198810]

[Anonymous No.4198856]

>>4198676
Yup, I think I see it.

[Anonymous No.4198858]

>>4198712
>>4198856

[Anonymous No.4198861]

>>4198636
>>4198676
>>4198856
Looks miles better already, with less lines cluttering the sketch youll see improvement in no time.

[Anonymous No.4198876]

>>4198810
very nice anon, good line economy and 3D thinking

[Anonymous No.4198879]

>>4198591
I’d fuck her thorny pussy.

[Anonymous No.4198884]

>>4198634
Really good linework. Got a blog or something?

[Anonymous No.4198887]

>>4198861
Thanks! :)

Back to drawing boxes for a bit though! Don't think I'd be able to easily turn these shapes in 3D space yet.

[Anonymous No.4198893]

I drew myself and my wife's boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.4198900]

>>4198884
>>4198876
Thank you. And sorry, but I don't think I'm at the level where I should bother keeping a blog.

[Anonymous No.4198910]

>>4198459
Anybody?

[Anonymous No.4198913]

sketch for new drawing

[Anonymous No.4198914]

>>4198900
You should, at least for your sketches.

[Anonymous No.4198916]

>>4198913
Looking good. Is that curved vertical line the “flow”?

[Anonymous No.4198920]

>>4198916
well they call it the line of action in various sources
https://line-of-action.com/article/gesture-basics-1-line-of-action/

although I don't mark the spine in particular

this technique works best for me, I always start with that line and a circle fo the head
i dunno if this is a good thing to do

[Anonymous No.4198924]

>>4198920
ok i found a sources that does it exaclty how I try to do
http://art.net/~rebecca/LifeDrStick1.html
http://www.selomsunu.co.uk/blog/week-5-gesture-drawing-line-of-action/9/6/2018

[Anonymous No.4198926]

>>4198810
stiff

[Anonymous No.4198932]

>>4198926
I know. It always ends up that way unless I think of a pose in advance.

[Anonymous No.4198939]

Anybody here with an iPad Pro have experience with the Paperlike screen protector? I wanna get it but it’s almost $40 for a pack of 2.

[Anonymous No.4198941]

I'm about to lose it , I don't understand how to set up a hard round brush. I feel like no matter what either 1. the edges look really soft and everything looks muddy or 2. it's super hard and nothing blends.

This was done on procreate but I have the same problems on PS. I feel dumb as hell

[Anonymous No.4198949]

Should I focus on books and post here or follow drawbox and post on r*ddit?

[Anonymous No.4198951]

>>4198939
Any screen protector is probably going to be that price or more, especially considering the screen size.

I find the screen easy enough to draw on. Hasn’t hindered me in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.4198958]

birthday yesterday parents asked if I wanted something. Wish me luck

[Anonymous No.4198961]

>>4198941
fyi hard round brush is a meme if you ever get told when you are asking on "how to get the texture like this"

[Anonymous No.4198963]

>>4198958
why not just pirate?

[Anonymous No.4198975]

>>4198961
Mm but isn't it a good standard brush? Or should I just be using whatever works? I'd like to practice painting properly without sitting there messing with the settings forever

[Anonymous No.4198980]

>>4198951
I want the feel of paper with the convenience of digital. I never realized how good it feels to draw on paper compared to digital.

[Anonymous No.4198993]

Don't know how to color Anons.
Help me...

[Anonymous No.4199058]

>>4198993
The yellow and orange bits are too close in value to the red, so it looks like his face was splattered with paint instead of it being light. Aside from that good job.

[Anonymous No.4199075]

>>4199058
How do I know which color to use?

[Anonymous No.4199080]

>>4199075
Any color is ok as long as it as the color of the light source is consistent. Try making gradients using rgb sliders. They show better how light works when colors are added to each other.

[Anonymous No.4199093]

>>4198887
No problem friend. Good luck on your journey.

[Anonymous No.4199118]

>>4199080
So how would I start painting this?

[Anonymous No.4199145]

>>4198544
Nope just sitting on a plane.
The skull is shitty because I wasn't looking at one.

[Anonymous No.4199178]

>>4199118
Block in the whole thing with a neutral value. Define a light source and block in the lights. Render.

[Anonymous No.4199186]

Is there a flexible construction method for positioning the eyeballs on the head from any angle?
The moment the head turns slightly, I just can't grasp where to place them. Something like in the pic (#6) is what I'm trying to get at.

[Anonymous No.4199206]

>>4199186
Jesus do you map the facial planes like this for every drawing you do?

[Anonymous No.4199219]

>>4199206
n-no

[Anonymous No.4199228]

>>4195469
I fond a good brush set for Krita to fallow Bob Ross but I fucked up the default presets trying to make one for landscapes/The Joy Of Panting. Is thare a preset manager somewhere?
Also, I can't do the exorcises in Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain in Krita.
It's been months and I feel like I got nowhere.
pic related is a parody I made recently.

[Anonymous No.4199240]

>>4198616
3 years

[Anonymous No.4199243]

>>4199206
This is just a picture I found online. Step 3 is prob as far as I go for getting a sense of the head.

[Anonymous No.4199272]

>>4199240

[Anonymous No.4199275]

Is this a pretty good regimen to use?
I'm already reading Perspective made easy, but is the whole path effecient? I've been drawing since I was a toddler but never really did reference pictures or studied until now.

[Anonymous No.4199291]

>>4199178
HELP...

[Anonymous No.4199330]

>>4196855
I think that is the least of your problems, man. Anatomy is fucked.
Make, take this dudes advice
>>4195694

[Anonymous No.4199407]

[Anonymous No.4199435]

How should i approach drawing a tall and skinny girl when I'm used to small and busty girls

[Anonymous No.4199438]

I really don't get Loomis at all. My heads just look very wonky, flat, and disproportionate. But when I follow Proko's video it looks way more natural, even though this is a summary of Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4199442]

>>4198856
I love these

[Anonymous No.4199443]

>>4198195
da Vinci explicitly denied this charge, although his distant relation Franco Zefferelli was a homosexual and died this year. We won't be hearing too much about him at the Oscars since he was a staunch Catholic.

[Anonymous No.4199447]

>>4199435
lay back, relax, think of the counter-reformation and the rest is easy....

[Anonymous No.4199453]

what do I have to keep in mind when cumming up with poses that depict movement (especially in more action type poses)? some of them just seem to use a lot of foreshortening and perspective (for example images of guns being pointed towards the viewer or towards something outside the image), others seem to place a lot of emphasis on the gesture.

I also would like to know what are some things anatomy wise to keep in mind to maintain balance in the pose.

[Anonymous No.4199468]

>>4199275
sort of. You have to go beyond the bare minimum so don't just copy everything from the books, actually take the exercises in them and practice them. Understanding the theory and method is necessary and all but its the actual practice thats going to make you good. it depends on how you use the books

[Anonymous No.4199544]

I heard the clothing on this one doesn't look good. Particularly on the hat and the lower part of the dress. The upper part of the dress feels flat but I'm not sure why. What particular could i do to improved upon it, if salvageable.

[Anonymous No.4199693]

Drew this from imagination today after watching 10 pages of bridgman anatomy, left is before watching bridgman.

Both were made without using reference.

Started drawing a month ago.

[Anonymous No.4199770]

new

>>4199769