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Art shouldn't be hidden from the public view because it may be controversial. I think people need to grow some balls and especially places like Twitter, Google and Youtube.

>> No.4168802

>>4168785
Wow, you are so brave. Too bad you are making this as an anon. Otherwise I'd give you several karma points and likes. Can I share this bravery in my Instagram history?

>> No.4168838

>>4168802
I don't think that was the point Anon. Even if he did say that shit on Twitter or YouTube it wouldn't matter. Everyone has already said it and no one did anything. I think this is just meant to be discussion about censorship like in China right now.

>> No.4168861

>>4168785
But think of the children.

>> No.4168863
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>draw loli having sex
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THIBK OF THE IMAGINARY CHILDREN!

>> No.4168865

>>4168785
I dont think twitter, google and YouTube as private companies really need to host the ramblings of hateful assholes who spend every waking hour complaining and talking shit on others, that should be confined to /pol/

>> No.4168867
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>>4168865
>censorship good if it doesn't affect me

>> No.4168873

>>4168865
Officer this man's post inspired me to shoot and rape, yes take him away he is a menace to society

>> No.4168876

>>4168802
Inability ti read sarcasm is the sign of the retard or the infant. How about you pyw or fuck off?

>> No.4168882

>>4168865
Real question: How ''private'' is a private company when almost the entire society uses and is reliant on their service, and all possible competitors in order to start up competition would have to use said company's service and thus abide by their rules?

This goes for both Google and say, Paypal and banks. Can't offer competition if you can't do business, cannot do business if you cannot exchange money, can't exchange money if you violate the bank's terms. Paypal is subordinate to these for example so if there is say a ban on ''obscene'' material by a bank that doesn't necessarily violate the law, it is banned from Paypal as well and thus from all sites and services that use paypal and so on down the chain. Are you seriously saying ''just start up your own google/paypal/twitter''? You know that doesn't work, you know it and still run your fat mouth

>> No.4168884

>>4168785
Terrrible thread. Go shoot a chinaman if you are so pissy. Thread hidden.

>> No.4168893

>>4168867
I run a small business. Ill censor the fuck out of that kind of thing every time in my business. If I ran a big social media company I would there too. I’m into being nice to people. Deal with it you repulsive shit for brains loser.

>> No.4168895

>>4168882
The companies with a monopoly who hold certain values seem to reflect society. If you want to use pro racism or pro hateful sites they exist but because the majority of people don’t subscribe tot hat repulsive garbage you have to go with small fish.

>> No.4168900

>>4168867
And? Imagine if “censorship” was just disallowing people to behave like assholes. That wouldn’t be terrible at all.

>> No.4168901

>>4168863
Why did you draw child porn in the first place?

>> No.4168986

>>4168865
If restaurants shouldn't be allowed to discriminate their customers on the basis of their race, then social media companies shouldn't be allowed to discriminate customers on the basis of their speech.

>> No.4169920

>>4168986
No thats a fallacy. If a is c and b is also c does not make a and b the same.
Racial discrimination is much different to banning someone for behaving like an asshole. Which by the way, usually racially discriminating on people falls under the umbrella of behaving like an asshole.

>> No.4169934

>>4168901
it's hot

>> No.4169944

>>4169920
>Racial discrimination is much different to banning someone for behaving like an asshole.
not really. we all know people from a determined race tend to act like assholes, koreans know that well, so they avoid them

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>>4168865
ok faggot

>> No.4169949

>>4169945
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.4169976

>>4169944
No, thats just racial discrimination. Have you been to Korea? I have. There is a reason why they behave that way and its not due to racism. It’s a cultural thing due to centuries of war with other outsiders. Koreans tend to have very tight knit groups and communities and its very difficult for someone from the outside to integrate. It’s not racial.

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>>4169976
>There is a reason why they behave that way and its not due to racism
yeah, it's just self preservation

>> No.4169988

>>4169945
>making a commie say that
should be centrist.

>> No.4169994

>>4168893
>i run a small business
>if i ran a big social ...
stop right there, retard, that's not how these things work. bigger companies get big by having no morals and only chasing the dollar.
that's part of the reason you're never going to get bigger, but even if you were just as scummy as the big guys, you'd just get bought out.

>> No.4170017

>>4168895
>>4168893
You're completely ignorant. Banned material does include ''any material that's bad for business'', which is included in modern terms of service which is why erotic and controversial material is banned from a lot of payment services. A mob declares you a bad man on social media? Say goodbye to your business. Without having done anything illegal. ''Society'' in this case also means the reigning political viewpoint, which means all viewpoints that disagree and thus are bad for business will also be banned. You say ''hateful and racist'' but who determines what that means? If you go by the modern social media definition, hateful and racist mean ''anybody I don't like'', the same goes for ''nazi''. You're knowingly taking the stance you do because you actually do want to suppress any dissent, as an authoritarian. There are a lot of people that want to create a real life Orwellian Oceania, and it appears you're among them. Poor choice

>> No.4170077

>>4168785
I'm sorry but I believe that mass censorship can be more beneficial to a stable society because it has been proven time and time again that the link between media and behavior is far more important than retards here would like you to believe.The statistic of people that watch loli and then go on to rape actual children is actually surprisingly high. The link between the people that consume violent videogames and movies that then go on to commit violent acts within one week have shown an incredible increase in epinephrine. Women exposed to images of models have been shown to be substantially more likely to be persuaded to immediately take plastic surgery. And so much more. Just look up the studies.

Consumption of degenerate media has a direct correlation to an increase in degenerate acts. This is why we need our media to be heavily regulated. The only issue is deciding who gets to decide.

>> No.4170091

>>4170077
>conflation of causation and correlation
this shit is way more complicated than you're leading on. yes, media can have an effect on people, but banning material is such a brainlet response-- we need to look at wider society and how these things get made, how ideology is reinforced, goes through unquestioned.
in other words: playing a violent videogame takes place in a context which can defuse its impact or amplify it; also, videogames are made by people-- usually the same kind of people who play them (they both grew up under the same governments, with the same news stations, etc.)
>degenerate media has a direct correlation to an increase in degenerate acts
and he shows his true colours. right-wingers have such two dimensional thinking.

>> No.4170117

>>4168901
because fuck you, that's why

>> No.4170443

>>4168900
> political pendulum swings left
> conservative makes art site that gets popular
> suddenly you are said asshole, and you are the one who deserves to be censored

If you like the idea of censorship as a weapon, expect it to be used against you

>> No.4170456

>>4168785
uh y'know art is pretty niche my dude,

what you're speaking off is the general public's selfish opinionsm; or rather anti-opinionism since every 3rd party opinion or expression is instantly discarded or even suppressed. This has nothing too do with art, or even muh artistic censorship/expression, but is a trait of modern society which became the root of today's new age mindset. People will bitch even more and bend the rules to their liking, you are just punching strawmans on social media, but you are not affecting the connected consciousness of the people as a whole, in the least.

>> No.4170474

>>4168986
you get the gist of the idea, but as the other anon said you can't treat two completely different things with the same values.

You should allow everyone to voice their opinion, but the least the person in question should be responsible for is to actually think through and understand what he/she is actually typing and expressing on that platform. If that something goes against the general rules, then that individual should surely be discarded from that platform, no matter how free spirited, delusional or self-righteous his speech was.
I mean it's pretty simple; if you let a full tilt criminal out of prison and tell him to behave himself what do you expect him to do? "U-uh sure.. haha no problem dude haha cya" two weeks later he's robbed a few places, sold and done drugs, robbed and attacked people, or even worse shit. What do you do with a person that can't fit into a healthy society and think and behave at least like a somewhat normal person would? You remove them from society.

In other words, while different values, the concept is pretty much the same; you remove people that can't behave themselves from social media, since after all it is them that are not willing to take responsibility for their action, but instead keep shit flinging and screeching about how unfairly they are treated just because they pushed their "selfless" opinions online (aka 10k words of autism and unnecessary dumb commentary).