How do I achieve this level of rendering?

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Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:44:34 2019 No.4154630 [Reply] [Original]

How do I achieve this level of rendering?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:50:03 2019 No.4154637 >>4154630 can bowsette get pregnant?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:50:35 2019 No.4154638 >>4154630 An actual 3d engine

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:52:53 2019 No.4154641 >>4154630 This looks rendered on top of a 3D model (as is everything john doe does). So uuuuh integrate 3D i guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:53:38 2019 No.4154644 >>4154641 >>4154638 It's not 3D. You can watch his streams and confirm.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 9 23:57:56 2019 No.4154646 >>4154630 this is super uncanny valley to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:01:34 2019 No.4154650 >hair, metal, skin and cloth all have the same texture Such rendering skills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:12:57 2019 No.4154668 >>4154630 that looks like shit just youtube "ambient occlusion" and use an airbrush, shouldn't be too hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:13:23 2019 No.4154670 >>4154630 Look too 3d

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:14:28 2019 No.4154673 File: 3.21 MB, 1734x2455, bfda406a6238e26d3e178feb88fa0d04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154650 >>4154668 Post your art. Show me how much better you are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:15:41 2019 No.4154679 >>4154630 Can it get any more soulless then this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:15:48 2019 No.4154681 >>4154673 You are not fit to behold my work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:18:23 2019 No.4154684 >>4154681 Then how about you contribute by posting about rendering instead of being a crab.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:20:36 2019 No.4154688 >>4154684 But thats what I said you dumb fuck, one of the biggest mistakes of "rendering" is treating each texture on the same way, not fucking rocket science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:22:00 2019 No.4154689 >>4154630 Looks like typical ambient occlusion to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:38:42 2019 No.4154707 Lots of airbrush + some texture + ambient occlusion happy paintings

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:47:09 2019 No.4154715

>>4154644
This is amazing to me... Not that i don't believe you but it has all the trappings of 3D over-paint.

> weird inconsistencies like line either be too perfect and straight or wobbly
>some elements look just pasted on like bowsette's eyebrows
>single line weight with weird angles that look like polygon planes

and so on

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:50:28 2019 No.4154718 >>4154673 you wouldn't like my work because its not braindead coomer garbage

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:54:41 2019 No.4154724 >>4154715 I remember him showing his step by step once. His method is identical of a rendering 3d program, but done manually, it's quite fascinating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 00:58:18 2019 No.4154729 whats the point of developing a rendering style that looks like CG rendering when CG rendering exists?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:04:18 2019 No.4154741 File: 89 KB, 550x662, realisticwalldrawings_01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154729 whats the point of developing a rendering style that looks like real life when pictures exists?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:08:20 2019 No.4154747 File: 13 KB, 250x250, 1446770978306.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154718 what is it then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:12:16 2019 No.4154752 >>4154630 >retard face

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:20:43 2019 No.4154764 this face makes me want to do unspeakable things with it. it's like he traced the most annoying face i've ever seen then drew cartoonish eyes over it. that's awful

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:29:42 2019 No.4154779 >>4154630 This is the most disgusting thing I ever seen. Oh god, why do people waste their effort this much ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:31:43 2019 No.4154780 >>4154630 I guess skill can't buy taste

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:31:49 2019 No.4154781 >>4154673 le you-cant-have-an-opinion-unless-you-pyw meme. wow anon great argument.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:41:43 2019 No.4154797 >>4154781 >you-cant-have-an-opinion-unless-you-pyw that would be great

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:49:01 2019 No.4154804 File: 1.87 MB, 1000x1363, goowow.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154747 there

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:49:49 2019 No.4154807 >>4154630 Why would you want to achieve this kind of sterile rendering style? It looks like a 3d render. No artist's note, no artistic added value, boring and sterile. What do you find appealing about this shit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:50:10 2019 No.4154809 >>4154644 post a link to his stream. his name is god awful for googling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 01:52:03 2019 No.4154812 >>4154741 Exactly! Apart from showing draftsmanship skills, there's no additional value to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 02:46:10 2019 No.4154869 >>4154804 haha what the fuck you shit other's rendering you can't even render a nose

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 02:56:28 2019 No.4154876 >>4154804 Better than 90% of ic

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 03:45:51 2019 No.4154905 >>4154869 actually, i wasn't one of the guys who was shitting on this guy's rendering, i just thought your pyw argument was retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 04:40:04 2019 No.4154948 >>4154905 Your art is much more appealing than the pic in OP. Stop listening to ic crabs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 05:07:36 2019 No.4154974 >>4154630 Someone reaches out to him and give him the word that anime pinup are supposed to look appealing at least put effort on the face, it's 90% of the appeal

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:08:10 2019 No.4155016 >>4154630 Just use a damn reference, what is so hard about this concept?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:28:29 2019 No.4155028 >>4154630 >>4154644 >how to render If you're watching his stream, then shouldn't the answer be right in front of you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:42:40 2019 No.4155035 >>4154630 looks like a westerner trying to force a random character on top of a 3d model. the usual soulless shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:46:48 2019 No.4155039 >>4154630 God how I want to suck on those tits

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:48:59 2019 No.4155042 >>4154630 How the fuck could he choose "John Doe" as his username. Almost makes it impossible to find his work by text search alone

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:50:43 2019 No.4155043 >>4154646 It's because the head is so disjointed from the rest of the body. Why is the right (our left) cheek in so much shadow if the right shoulder is so illuminated. The lighting isn't consistent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:58:21 2019 No.4155051 >>4155042 Answering your own questions anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 06:58:32 2019 No.4155053 >>4154673 If there is truly no 3d in that picture then I guess he mastered painting as a 90's phong shader. Those red hands look like they belong in some vaporwave art

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 07:09:21 2019 No.4155063 >>4154630 Look at the dick and the hands in this one. There's no way that isn't 3d

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 07:10:19 2019 No.4155064 File: 82 KB, 848x1199, 867de5f5ba45a743b568e4671360af88.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4155063 oops here's the pic

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 07:15:03 2019 No.4155066 >>4154630 That looks awful. Guy used 3d and ambiant occlusion badly and it shows.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 08:17:45 2019 No.4155099 >>4154673 You don't have to be better to know that the rendering is shit sakimi normie loving tiered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 08:43:18 2019 No.4155121 >>4155064 fuck, this looks so stiff

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 08:45:40 2019 No.4155125 >>4155121 well, it's a dick

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 08:58:23 2019 No.4155136 >>4155125 look at the hand.

Anonymous Thu Oct 10 09:58:39 2019 No.4155198

It is 3D just like i said before. Daz has a plugin that will add lines around a character render i forgot what its called but i remember seeing it a while back. There's also alot of toon shaders that will make the skin less realistic looking.

I can tell just by looking at this stuff that it's Daz renders with a bit of painting over. I used daz for over a decade and it just jumps out at me. But i'll give you an example of something that stands out... Look at this image >>4155064
... The area on her hand in between the fingers there's strong highlights. That's exactly how it does it in Daz. I could achieve the same shine if i positioned a hand that way and got the light in the same position behind the camera. Don't be fooled this is 90% a daz render and maybe 10% paintover.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 10:21:53 2019 No.4155222 File: 4 KB, 691x597, cyYqBGq.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154630 I know those nipples are anatomically absurd...and yet...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:24:23 2019 No.4155280 >>4154724 Where can i find a description of how a 3d program renders? That idea sounds great

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:26:38 2019 No.4155284 >>4154630 why is the face so fucked up

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 11:37:04 2019 No.4155300 >>4155053 christ you faggots are clearly so depressed and desensitized you cannot appreciate highly stylized work for what is it...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 12:01:42 2019 No.4155329 >>4155300 Just to be clear, do you disagree that the hands look like 3d renders?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 16:43:39 2019 No.4155665 >>4154673 photobash of 3d

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 17:18:00 2019 No.4155708 File: 165 KB, 1357x1920, 0CE6872A-CD54-426F-B587-3D9C363D98A0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154630 >>4154644 >>4154724 “It’s not 3d guys” work by the same guy, the buttplug is clipping through the fucking blanket.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 21:18:06 2019 No.4155929 >>4155708 OH NO NO NO

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 10 21:24:53 2019 No.4155930 >>4155300 >>4155329 This seems relevant. >>4151913

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 00:31:55 2019 No.4156188 >>4154804 this is gorgeous anon, blog?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 04:19:44 2019 No.4156413 >>4155222 I'd nurse the right one with you on the left brother

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:00:44 2019 No.4156444 >>4155708 LMFAO

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:10:46 2019 No.4156454 >>4154630 This looks terrible

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:18:24 2019 No.4156455

>>4154644
How fucking dumb are you? It’s so obviously a 3D model or a trace of one. This is not a compliment either, it has all the trademarks of a shitty 3D model. Look at the hands. The tail. Her midget right leg. It’s so goddamn obvious.
If you are still in denial look at the vibrator in >>4155708. Look at the toes. How the sheets don’t fall in any realistic sense and don’t look anything like how someone would draw bedsheets.
Anyone who has used 3D models can see this straight away because it’s all so unnatural.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:20:00 2019 No.4156456 >>4155198 He doesn't use 3d. Check his Picarto recordings and you'll see the whole process. https://picarto.tv/JohnDoe Click on videos at the top.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:25:14 2019 No.4156461 >>4155708 I don't think this artwork belongs to John Doe.

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:27:28 2019 No.4156462

>>4156455
The guy just told you he has his process available on his stream channel and you keep being delusional. John Doe's art looks like stiff 3d renders, I don't disagree on that. However he doesn't use 3d to achieve that. It's mind boggling, I know. But there's proof that that's not the case.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:33:34 2019 No.4156464 >>4155708 epic

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:36:48 2019 No.4156466 >>4156462 >no rough sketches in sight >all of them start out as lines or really clean sketches before he renders looks like he traces over the 3d renders for line art and then eyeballs the shading on his models

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:52:19 2019 No.4156481 >>4156466 Here's how his art looks like without 3d https://img.rule34.xxx//samples/2548/sample_c22f233e29d8bdf774f57ef368092fb3.jpg?2827399

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:54:44 2019 No.4156485 >>4156466 I don't exclude that possibility at all. However my point was that he doesn't do 3d render overpaints like other people seem to believe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 05:56:42 2019 No.4156487 >>4156481 Even that looks like based with 3d software lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 06:02:50 2019 No.4156489 >>4156456 Too slow and the streams barely show anything. Not convinced yet

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 06:07:41 2019 No.4156490

>>4156456
He may not use 3d for the rendering but he likely uses 3d for the line art.

All of these videos start with at least a clean sketch and then he paints over it. In other words, he's just using pre-rendered models reduced to line edges through filters or tracing and painting over it. If you want to prove your point that he uses NO 3d, show us something where he actually draws from scratch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 06:09:42 2019 No.4156491 >>4156485 True, but what ever he is doing isn't doing his art any favors. They end up looking more like souless plastic dolls than people imo. >>4156481 kek you can really tell he relies way too much on 3d

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 06:36:05 2019 No.4156509

>>4156489
His rendering looks like 3d, he doesn't paint over 3d renders. There's proof of that in his picarto videos. If you are too dumb or lazy to check that up, that's solely your problem.

It might be that he uses 3d models as reference for painting but he doesn't photobash. Again, proven by his saved picarto videos.

He might be tracing the initial lineart. There's no concrete proof of that, but it seems highly possible.

Stop crabbing already.

>>4156491
>True, but what ever he is doing isn't doing his art any favors.
I couldn't agree more.

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:17:27 2019 No.4156529

>>4156509
How is it even crabbing if by the end of the day you both agree that it looks like trash? One way or another it's a shit artist that has nothing to teach any of the people in this thread. The argument is whether he's a shit artist AND a liar or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:32:32 2019 No.4156549 >>4156529 True, even with 3d, his arts look like shit. And this is not the first time people argue about it, not worth our time/ic, go draw!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 08:11:45 2019 No.4156571 >>4154630 >reads Scott Robertson once

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 08:43:06 2019 No.4156598 >>4156529 It's crabbing because you guys want to depict him as something he isn't. You have 0 proof if he uses 3d AT ALL. To me this thread is the definition of /ic/ crabs. Yes, you are a crab.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 08:50:26 2019 No.4156609 >>4156598 without any statement whether it's good or bad, what's more likely?: >it's so weird guys he doesn't use 3d at all but it looks exactly like he does! >to some extent he uses 3d models

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 09:31:18 2019 No.4156647 >>4156609 The thing is that what makes his art look 3d is especially the rendering and the vector lineart. Both of which aren't done with the help of 3d at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 10:02:24 2019 No.4156683 File: 405 KB, 750x870, 6EF44A4B-3F45-43C3-A490-FBF4428BD9D3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4156461 Yes it fuckin does

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 10:21:37 2019 No.4156703 >>4156647 >>4156683 Are you saying this dude made the conscious choice to draw a buttplug clipping through a blanket like a 3d model instead of just using a 3d model

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 10:42:02 2019 No.4156717 >>4154804 soul >>4154869 crab

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 10:47:50 2019 No.4156724 >>4156703 No idea what's going on with that artwork. To me it doesn't look like his other art at all. I guess he got lazy on this one and just straight up used 3d for the lineart.

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 10:57:05 2019 No.4156733
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>>4156724
>>4155300
>>4154644
>>4156598

He clearly did for all of them. I don't know why you are in such denial. The streams don't disprove this. You might as well argue that someone who traces a photo off-stream and then starts a stream with clean lines to fill with paint bucket and some airbrushing is a great artist. Fucking kys. Oh... and like others have said, on the .0001% chance this work is all truly original, it blows donkey dick anyways. So congrats on white knighting an untalented hack and having shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 11:03:45 2019 No.4156735 >>4154630 This feels very plastic and weird looking

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 11:05:23 2019 No.4156738 >>4156733 What a fucking crab lol. Nobody said he's a great artist. I just said that people that claim he's photobashing or painting over 3d renders is in the wrong. Stop being so mad, crab.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 14:52:11 2019 No.4157043 >>4156738 The streams aren't proof. They don't show the whole process.

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 14:58:48 2019 No.4157046

>>4156738
I think John Doe knows how to put a great composition and a good picture together.

He does trace his line-art from 3D models tho, and it's obvious like a punch to the face. He has regular drawings and they look nothing like his rendered stuff, way more cartoonish and gestural.

>>4154630 question was : How do i produce something that looks like that. The answer is : By posing and tracing 3D models

You "defending" John doe actively prevent Op from getting an honest answer.

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 15:08:02 2019 No.4157057

>>4157046
>He does trace his line-art from 3D models tho, and it's obvious like a punch to the face.
I am not saying that can't be the case. It looks to me that way too. Plus the fact that he never does lineart on stream seems to be a clear indicator. But I thought that was the case for his shading and coloring as well, since it looks like a 3d render with some post paintover work. That's why I don't want to point fingers.

>>4157043
They show the fact that HE DOESNT DO PAINTOVERS OVER 3D RENDERS.
What the hell is wrong with you people's reading comprehension. WTF?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 15:57:43 2019 No.4157097 >>4156188 seconding this

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 16:03:08 2019 No.4157102 >>4154804 Anon this is quite cute.

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 16:08:17 2019 No.4157105
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>>4157057
Is it really important to defend him? For what? He's a shitty artist with shitty arts, or maybe you're John Doe himself? At least find some proper renderings to argue about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 16:16:06 2019 No.4157111 >>4154630 non artist, i hate this style and will offer no patronage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 20:07:25 2019 No.4157335 >>4157105 I just hate you crabs more than any bad artwork. >At least find some proper renderings to argue about. Is the pic you posted supposed to be that? LMAO.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 20:10:31 2019 No.4157339 >>4157057 Digital artists have faked their workflow before to appear more skilled. A couple of minutes worth of video clips proves nothing. Wake up sheeple

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 20:12:11 2019 No.4157341 >>4157339 Just go fuck yourself, crab.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 21:13:26 2019 No.4157395 >>4157335 Yes it is, what's wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 21:29:11 2019 No.4157408 >>4157341 >babbys favorite artist confirms to be not as good as he thought AHHH GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU'RE ALL JUST CRABS lmao grow up

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 21:36:02 2019 No.4157418 >>4157335 100x better than OP pic

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 06:03:55 2019 No.4157775 >>4157335 it's way fucking better retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 08:09:13 2019 No.4157851 >>4154673 u can literally see the sketchup lines in this pic. Dont get fooled anons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 11:53:03 2019 No.4158029 File: 27 KB, 720x398, cringenareff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4155064 i can't draw, but i can spot garbage, and this right here is garbage. entirely soulless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 14:22:40 2019 No.4158183 >>4157418 >>4157775 >>4157395 They just both suck. >>4157408 I don't even like John Doe's stuff LMAO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:12:34 2019 No.4158613 >>4154630 Lmao kids in Skyrim have the same face

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:22:55 2019 No.4158628 >>4154673 >those fingers Who the fuck is paying for this shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 19:25:18 2019 No.4158630 File: 606 KB, 3356x2739, EEmZWG5U4AAiuix.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kyle has by far the best rendering

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 21:47:32 2019 No.4158751 >>4158183 No only John Doe sucks you shit taste retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 23:47:11 2019 No.4158878 >>4158630 Why do they look so fucking souless

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 00:48:22 2019 No.4158921

>>4158878
It's the faces. He's trying to bridge his original style with the weeb coom art look and it's not working. There is simultaneously too much and too little detail on the faces. I think the faces would look better with a wee bit more lash detail, a little bit more lipstick detail and more defined noses (may as well commit to some hard edges if you're gonna plop so much color there). I don't think he needs to add a whole lot to make the faces look livelier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:17:08 2019 No.4159034 Look...look at the size of those UDDERS HOMANA HOMANA HOMANA HUUUH?! eyes spring out of head” BOINGOINGOING jaw drops to the floor* DUHHHHHH old time car horn blares AWOOOOOOOOGA

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:07:54 2019 No.4159086 >>4155708 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:15:00 2019 No.4159096 >>4157335 >if I crab harder then I win!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 04:57:50 2019 No.4159122 >>4158630 Those fucking faces scares the shit out of me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:14:41 2019 No.4159188 >>4158751 Sorry for hurting your /beg/ feelings. >>4159096 Aztodio's stuff is just so uninspired and unoriginal. He basically copies other artists and doesn't bring anything new to the table. Totally meh stuff imo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:23:55 2019 No.4159194 >>4158630 kizuna ai looks okay but the way the other girl is staring off into space is really jarring. she should be looking at kizuna or at the viewer, not just into the void

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:43:39 2019 No.4159206 >>4154630 hideous

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:58:38 2019 No.4159223 >>4154630 the hair looks cartoony along with some other parts, the hard black lines dont really work I think

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 07:13:10 2019 No.4159231 File: 69 KB, 306x331, 1520558121304.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154630 What's the point in making a drawing look like a shitty 3d model from daz or whatever it's called?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:04:39 2019 No.4159259 >>4158804

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 08:57:39 2019 No.4159287
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>>4159194
Kyle does have pretty good rendering skills but I think he should explore a more flat style. Here are some progress pics. I think many would agree with me that the middle pic is the most appealing

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 13:57:11 2019 No.4159609 >>4159287 Like the line art best desu. What was wrong with his slightly more realistic style though? if he's gonna go full animoo he should straight omit the nose entirely. It might just be me but I really dislike the noses he is doing now.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 15:00:53 2019 No.4159677
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>>4154630
>over 100 posts arguing back and forth over if this shit is 3d or not
man i don't even give a shit if it is 3d, there's no goddamn shame in using 3d if you're just fuckin honest about it, yall look pathetic defending this shit, just go jack off to it and go back to drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:37:59 2019 No.4160601 >>4159677 Such a helpful post. GTFO.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 08:14:14 2019 No.4160634

>>4159677
>there's no goddamn shame in using 3d if you're just fuckin honest about it
>there's no goddamn shame in _insert cope justification_ if you're just fuckin honest about it

so basically there is no shame in anything as long as you yourself trust in it. Ok dictator-kun

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 13:21:12 2019 No.4162376 >>4158630 This is also very clearly traced Daz models

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 13:35:03 2019 No.4162396 >>4162376 I wish I could trace Daz that well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 13:56:56 2019 No.4162416 >>4159188 >muh original Such an idiot, if the art looks good then it looks good. Even with the help of Daz 3D John Doe's works are total garbage, why trying to drag better artist down to his level? You're John Doe's number one fan, or you're him?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 00:14:43 2019 No.4164467 File: 287 KB, 1280x753, tumblr_pucmgnKxon1t6t7pao1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4154741 Oh yeah remember that photo of kharon driving lost souls throught the doors of tartarus? you know something you get to see everyday

Anonymous Thu Oct 17 20:38:47 2019 No.4165663

>>4162416
I don't like John Doe's art at all. It's uninspired crap that looks like a 3d render.
I happen to not like atztodio's art too. It's uninspired crap that looks like cheap knockofs of better artists that have the style he's copying.
You must be atztodio's number one fan, or you're him?
That's how this works, right?

tl;dr go cry me a river, tasteless faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 21:40:13 2019 No.4165710 >>4162376 Proof?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 22:05:46 2019 No.4165766 >>4154804 soul

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 22:09:56 2019 No.4165779 >>>4157335 1000x better than OP pic

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 23:57:13 2019 No.4165904 What is a crab?

Anonymous Fri Oct 18 01:03:56 2019 No.4165956

>it's not 3d
>can literally see the polygons and aliasing
lmao pick one. some of /ic/ is so incredibly retarded but worse is how much it reflects the average person. clearly clean convex hull outlines, awful aliasing, visible polygons, stiff as fuck figures, and smooth shading. but no, it's not 3d at all

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 01:06:51 2019 No.4165958 >>4165904 Forced meme pushed by /ic/ newfags

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 07:31:09 2019 No.4166232 >>4165779 Nah, more like 10x. This said, still 1000x worse than actual good artists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 07:33:32 2019 No.4166233 >>4165956 How can you be this delusional? Maybe the initial sketches are traced over 3d models, but all the rest is done manually by JD. STOP BEING RETARDED AND JUST FUCKING CHECK HIS LIVESTREAM RECORDINGS JFC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 08:15:22 2019 No.4166260 >>4165904 Someone who drags his betters down with him.

Anonymous Fri Oct 18 09:35:01 2019 No.4166367

>>4166233
Tracing the sketch is like 80% of the work that's done for you ...

>Anat : done
>Composition : done
>Perspective : done
>Draftsmanship : just rotate camera, move a few IK's, no sketch iteration needed
>Effing values : he has the 3D render on another screen, and it shows, it's almost mathematical. (the 3D forms cut the light flawlessly, legit artists usually give themselves some liberty with the direction of shadows/lights to enhance composition)

>all the rest
Just rendering

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 18:47:49 2019 No.4166997 >>4166367 >Tracing the sketch is like 80% of the work that's done for you ... I don't agree about that dumb percentage you just shat out of your mouth, but that's not the point. I'm saying he doesn't overpaint 3d models. Pe-FUCKING-riod.

Anonymous Fri Oct 18 19:42:04 2019 No.4167030
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>>4166233
>How can you be this delusional?
i could ask the same for you. clearly this is all handpainted and not artifacts from 3d rendering, shitty edge detection/angle filters, or low res textures

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 20:06:16 2019 No.4167057 >>4154804 post feet

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 20:09:10 2019 No.4167061 i really hope the only thing you like about this is the rendering it looks fucking stupid

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 02:21:59 2019 No.4167422 >>4154804 based loona poster

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 02:29:31 2019 No.4167432 >>4154630 god damn this is ugly

Anonymous Sat Oct 19 02:55:37 2019 No.4167463

>>4166997
80% is not "a dumb percentage" you dumbfuck.

I chose 80% because the rule of 80/20 in art dictates that the great majority of the piece (~80%) is done in the first few hours.

John Doe piggy-backs on CG for that crucial phase.

>YOU SEE THE FUCKING SKETCH-UP LINES IN THE FINAL RENDER ALLO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 03:47:02 2019 No.4167517 >>4167030 Alright. I give up. I guess he draws his stuff on stream for hours and hours in a different way, just to fool everyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 03:49:23 2019 No.4167518 >>4167463 Normies care only about polish. I wish what you are saying had any meaning in commercial illustration (especially porn), but it doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 03:51:57 2019 No.4167523 >>4167517 Fuck off John Doe

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 03:54:09 2019 No.4167529 >>4167523 Yup, that's the only argument you are left with. BS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 04:02:31 2019 No.4167543 >>4167517 So he spent hours to reproduce those trashes, it's even more impressive that you took the time to watch it, clearly show how garbage you are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 04:12:13 2019 No.4167547 >>4167543 Why are you so salty.

Anonymous Sat Oct 19 04:46:36 2019 No.4167567

>>4167543
I don't watch his streams. I already said several times that I don't like his art at all.
You can find the recordings of his streams on picarto. And you can see their length, jump forward, etc.
I'm just exposing your crab core, and I know it hurts you kek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 05:28:01 2019 No.4167600 >>4154741 Some things do not exist and thus cannot be photographed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 19 23:23:39 2019 No.4168724 >>4164467 the themes in these two paintings aren't remotely similar, retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 18:13:55 2019 No.4169808 >>4154797 The problem with PYW is that people will always find fault with the picture (since this is the board where posters will say things like Ruan Jia and Craig Mullins being bad) thus "disproving" the argument.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 18:15:55 2019 No.4169811 >>4154630 Man, these lines look so robotic. This would look so much better if they did away with the linework

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