/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4140821]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4134940

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

Help others with constructive criticism.

[Anonymous No.4140847]

Practicing colors, how's it going?

[Anonymous No.4140868]

i hate drawing

[Anonymous No.4140917]

[Anonymous No.4140920]

>>4140868
Everybody hates their passion if they really care about it.

[Anonymous No.4140944]

Friendly reminder that erasers are a crutch and you don’t need them.

[Anonymous No.4140949]

pls rate, bro
references:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Three_Worthy_Christians-_Charlemagne,_King_Arthur,_and_Geoffrey_of_Bouillon_MET_DP834175.jpg
Osprey Knights at Tournament

[Anonymous No.4140954]

>>4140636
You need to learn anatomy, also you keep making legs too short.
Face was wayyy too crooked on yours even for stylization.
Here ya go, compare the position of the hips relative to the upper chest. I shifted everything to the right because otherwise she has an awkward position.

[Anonymous No.4140958]

I haven't even started, I need guidance, and the sticky doesn't seem to be geared towards someone as bad as I am. The "beginner" resources I've looked through so far inexplicably contain no information at all about the basic mechanical skills needed to draw and how to learn them. I don't need to cure my symbol drawing, learn to "see like an artist," or to start dabbling with construction: I need to learn how to draw a damn line. How am I supposed to do anything else if I can't place lines with any sort of accuracy? I already know from experience that I won't improve at all unless I have a good understanding of what I'm supposed to be doing.

Thus far, though, I haven't found any resources covering this topic. People in every culture across the world have been drawing for thousands of years, and yet the total accumulated sum of human wisdom on this subject appears to be "use your shoulder more than your wrist, bro." Are there some resources I'm overlooking, or am I just so terrible that I'm struggling with things other people master without any thought or effort?

[Anonymous No.4140991]

>>4140949
Watch the angle of the feet. If you do it yourself you'll see how uncomfortable it is to keep your legs turned out the opposite ways like that.Also watch the length of the arms, the arm w/ scroll is too short from the bicep area.


>>4140958
Drawabox for traditional/digital.
Cntrl paint has some stuff geared towards digital beginners.
Proko also does good beginner tutorials but he dives into teaching figure drawing if you wanna draw people.
https://drawabox.com/lesson/0
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMC0Cx3Uk84

[Anonymous No.4140996]

>>4140958
literally first lesson on drawabox

[Anonymous No.4140999]

>>4140958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsQ1WVyPHvU

[Anonymous No.4141007]

I did proko stuff, I can "construct" a person right now more or less, where should i got now to learn adding muscles and detail to the body?

[Anonymous No.4141009]

>>4140991
Thanks bro
I thought my anatomy was ok, but turns out it wasn't :(

[Anonymous No.4141039]

>>4140949
As a /fit/izen I've never even thought I'm going to say these words in my life, but... skip leg day

[Anonymous No.4141052]

>>4141007
Get an anatomy book and copy the diagrams. Then add the same muscles on top of your constructions. Consult real life references/favorite artists' works when you get stuck

[Anonymous No.4141070]

>>4141052
>anatomy book
do you have any to suggest?

[Anonymous No.4141075]

>>4141070
Anatomy for Sculptors by Zarins

[Anonymous No.4141077]

>>4141009
Np man, youre not too far off. but then again that dude in the pic is wearing like 30 tons of armor lol.

>>4141070
https://pastebin.com/sgZq0vUW

Search anatomy for sculptors in this link

[Anonymous No.4141080]

form&gesture > anatomy

[Anonymous No.4141084]

>>4141080
Both are fundamental so it's an inane discussion to begin with

[Anonymous No.4141090]

I need to stop being so self conscious and actual post my crap online so..

Some quest fan art junk i drew a few months ago

I sketch everyday but find it hard to do actual "project" drawings, even inking these took me ages, any tips for increasing output?

[Anonymous No.4141096]

>>4141084
yes but i would say to not try to draw old, muscular men before you can't draw a 3D looking simple anime girl body

[Anonymous No.4141098]

>>4140636
Reposting this because I didn't see there was a new thread.
Head is MASSIVE compared to the body. The body is good, I like that, but the head is MASSIVE. I love the size of the hands though, most beginner artists tend of the side of making hands tiny, so I love how big they are.

[Anonymous No.4141101]

>>4141096
Sure I guess for most people here, but it's still like saying water > food

[Anonymous No.4141106]

>>4141101
>it's still like saying water > food
you think food is as necessary as water?

[Anonymous No.4141118]

>>4141106
form and gesture should be studied alongside anatomy. the two can't be separated from each other.

[Anonymous No.4141122]

>>4141106
No. I made that analogy to illustrate that it's pointless to argue about which one is more important. Water is indeed more important than food, but in the end you're still fucked if you lack either

[Anonymous No.4141215]

I have work so I'm not going to draw much else today -- but wanted to make my day wasn't 0 sum.

[Anonymous No.4141234]

>>4140375
>That's cheating, no?
lol painters are literal gridders and gridfags, when you resize most of the time you're at least relying on your eye to eyeball it, gridding is paint by numbers bullshit

[Anonymous No.4141235]

Posted this >>4141220 in the inktober thread, might as well post it here too.

[Anonymous No.4141237]

>>4141096
>yes but i would say to not try to draw old, muscular men before you can't draw a 3D looking simple anime girl body
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[Anonymous No.4141239]

>>4141215

you're actually getting better at this mouse thing.

you seem to have a good grasp of proportions and perspective but it's hard to give feedback when most of your errors could be attributed to using a mouse.

[Anonymous No.4141254]

>>4140991
Thanks for the links. Things that start the learning process at "this is how you hold a pencil" are absolutely what I think I need right now. I don't usually require this sort of hand-holding when learning a new skill, but nothing about drawing clicks with me. I spent a lot of time attempting to learn to draw as a teenager, and I achieved nothing. Not only did I fail to improve, I came to realize that I was worse at drawing than literally anyone I had ever met, including people who hated drawing and did it as little as possible.

>>4140996
Based on the name and memes, I was under the stupid impression that drawabox literally consisted of drawing boxes forever until you magically learned something. I also generally prefer books to online resources (and especially to videos) so that's what I gravitated towards first from the resources listed in the sticky. It actually looks like a fairly reasonable approach to drawing.

>>4140999
This is very much the sort of thing I was looking for, thanks.

Time to do some practicing and see if it actually seems possible for me to approve. Getting to the level of the least-skilled people I've seen here is pretty much my end-goal: everyone who posts their work here is completely amazing by my standards.

[Anonymous No.4141287]

Could I get some crits on this before I ink it?

[Anonymous No.4141343]

>>4141287
This is really good. I would just say that the cheekbone shape is wrong and the eyebrow ridge should be a bit more prominent. (or the eye bulges out a bit too far.) Ear might be a teeny bit too far back for that angle of the head. The back side of the neck shouldn't have that bump. Even the seventh cervical vertibrae isn't really shaped that way. Lastly, I think the jawbone might be a bit too big.

[Anonymous No.4141344]

>>4141343
These are all really minor issues tho. Don't worry about it, just ink it as it is now

[Anonymous No.4141356]

Keys to drawing 1-C sorry it's shit

[Anonymous No.4141359]

>>4141343
>>4141344
Okay, I'm gonna adjust those things and then ink. Thank you anon!

[Anonymous No.4141360]

>>4141356
make your hatches follow the curves

[Anonymous No.4141363]

first time rendering, im using sai2 does the default brush, marker, water color are enough or do you need to tweak them ?
is everything done in one layer?

[Anonymous No.4141375]

>>4141239
Thanks but it's cheating a bit since I was flipping through a KJG sketchbook before -- also the gap between my pen/paper skills aren't so different than my mousepad skills since the discomfort is cancelled out by the fact I can undo any stroke... I just get lazy

[Anonymous No.4141378]

>>4141363
If you can control it, you can paint with it. It's all about personal preference.

[Anonymous No.4141387]

daily reminder to stop trying to copy photos and learn basic construction and form :)

[Anonymous No.4141396]

[Anonymous No.4141418]

>>4141396
This is actually really good wth I thought this was a toriyama drawing

[Anonymous No.4141434]

>>4141418
BOY
I fucked this up so bad
I made the torso too narrow and the clothing had to be changed because the actual ref outfit wouldn't fit on the body otherwise
Thanks tho

[Anonymous No.4141512]

>>4141363

[Anonymous No.4141545]

>>4141512

who dis?

[Anonymous No.4141548]

>>4141545
me

[Anonymous No.4141593]

>>4141512

[Anonymous No.4141594]

slow drawing day today, kinda tired now though

ill crit tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4141604]

>he's still at it

[Nosebro No.4141674]

>>4141594
looks cool

[Anonymous No.4141712]

How do I work through Huston?

[Anonymous No.4141731]

>>4140821
what's the fucking point anymore...

[Anonymous No.4141733]

Posted this in the thread that was dying oops ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyway, starting with perspective now. Bottom one feels fucky. I think I did the points' lines wrong.

[Anonymous No.4141741]

>>4141254
I'm right there with you. I own Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, and while it did give me a small confidence boost, the fact that there's no strength in any of my lines killed it for me. I've started Drawabox, and am currently drawing multiple boxes in one point perspective. I'm so shit at it right now and am so frustrated with it that I was beginning to think that even this was beyond me. Seeing this post cheered me up a bit, reminded me I'm not the only one starting from zero. Thanks anon.

Time to draw some more stupid fucking boxes.

[Anonymous No.4141769]

i've never painted in photoshop before :(

[Anonymous No.4141772]

>>4141733
whats the purple line for?

[Anonymous No.4141775]

>>4141772
I was originally gonna use it for the vertical line but I thought it seemed fucky to work with so I ignored it. I just forgot to hide the layer it's on.

[Anonymous No.4141777]

[Anonymous No.4141789]

Sketch for inktober prompt. I used a ref from one of the artbook megas. Any glaring mistakes? I must say, despite being a girl, I have the hardest time drawing bras and boobs.

[Anonymous No.4141796]

>>4141512
brick ?

[Anonymous No.4141801]

I have no idea what I'm doing. How do people learn to paint properly?

[Anonymous No.4141806]

>>4141789
What's really jarring is her whole left leg. Can you post the ref?

[Anonymous No.4141815]

>>4141733
Bottom one is messed up yeah

You put a third vanishing point on top but didn’t use it at all, and the bottom lines don’t seem to be connected to the other vanishing points... it’s hard to tell if you’re trying to make it sit flat on the ground because you are also showing the underside of the form, but the lines are not connected correctly to the left and right vanishing points...

[Anonymous No.4141819]

>>4141789
>>4141806
Here's the ref

[Anonymous No.4141821]

>>4141815
It's really tricky to line up the converging lines with the VPs, also I was gonna use the purple lines but I decided to scrap it and forgot to disable the layer it was on.

[Anonymous No.4141850]

>>4140821
I'm making something, I posted it in the last thread but I got in too late.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbVqkbVn2gY
I stopped drawing half-way through because I wasn't sure if I should continue or just end the video on "And how war never really changes". There's still audio there though, so if you're interested after that point just start playing it in another tab or something.

So the two main questions I have is
>Should I end it where I stopped animating?
>Is the ratio of drawings to pictures disproportional?

On top of just general feedback on this would be really great.

[Anonymous No.4141871]

I spent so much time working on faces I realized that I don’t know shit about anatomy nor how to represent anything slightly below the start of the neck. Oh, and anything else I draw now still feels like shit. Despite all of that, I am a bit proud of how it turned out.

[Anonymous No.4141885]

>>4141871
At least resize properly before posting, you phone poster.

[Anonymous No.4141997]

>>4141801
Looks good if you ask me

[Anonymous No.4142014]

How do you practice etching?

[Poppi No.4142038]

Why this post is spam day by day again???? Can you guys stop please. I really really really hate this note

[Anonymous No.4142042]

Tonights WIP for a friend.

Anything I can fix come tomorrow? Any suggestions? Reference is Kaguya from Touhou, any input is truly appreciated

[Anonymous No.4142051]

>>4141769
the eyefolds look like eyebrows, the black line should not be that thick.

[Anonymous No.4142054]

>>4141789
wanna me be ur bf?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CssitSXXtYc

[Anonymous No.4142056]

>>4141801
This looks good, its just not finished.

[Anonymous No.4142063]

>>4141769
Needs more Loomis

[Anonymous No.4142096]

some feedback would be nice

[Anonymous No.4142103]

>>4142096
what are you doing in /beg/?

[Anonymous No.4142120]

>"discover" opacity settings and their use in shading
>go from right to left in a single day
All these fucking tutorials on how to draw neglect the single most important part of digital drawing, which is how to fucking configure your tool.

And yes I'm aware both are shit, I'm new at this, the point is that between these two tools make the difference not skill.

[Anonymous No.4142128]

>>4142120
Also I should note I only really discovered them when I was halfway through the highlights I guess.

[Anonymous No.4142131]

>>4140958
You pick up a pencil, you hold it so the point is on the paper, and you draw a line. Done. Gold star.

Children who can barely walk can manage to learn this simple task. Yet it eludes you?

[Anonymous No.4142142]

>>4141396
It looks like you tried to draw this on a very small canvas and instead of enlarging it, you were like "I'll just distort the proportions to make it fit." And now his body's too short.

[Anonymous No.4142144]

>>4141741
Idk why do people struggle with drawing boxes so much. Nigga, just draw a Y letter and add 6 lines making sure that they go to the right direction

[Anonymous No.4142155]

>>4142103
Someone told me to come here

[Anonymous No.4142272]

>>4142142
I just use printer paper

[Anonymous No.4142273]

>>4140847
Badly

[Anonymous No.4142279]

Guys there was an anatomy book that someone posted here like a week or so ago, it was similar to Anatomy For Sculptors, it was quite new and had really clean imagery

[Anonymous No.4142280]

>>4142279
>Anatomy For Sculptors
>>4142096
thats the one im reading now

[Anonymous No.4142281]

>>4141733

you don't need to draw that many lines, just connect the corners

also in 2 point perspective make sure your vertical lines are straight

[Anonymous No.4142283]

>>4141512
more pls

[Anonymous No.4142292]

>>4142272
>>4142142
Holy shit I just drew a properly proportioned goku on the same kind of paper with a smol gohan beside him and still even have space to spare
I don't know why I fucked up that first drawing so bad
I guess crits do help after all

[Anonymous No.4142310]

[Anonymous No.4142313]

[Anonymous No.4142395]

k tried again.

Made the legs long, kept in the mind the position of the hips and shoulders during the gesture and shrunk the head but gave up on the face.

How'd I do now?

[Anonymous No.4142407]

>>4140847
Who put this eyeball in this haystack

[Anonymous No.4142409]

>>4140958
Lol are you fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.4142414]

>>4141239
I’m sorry to hear about your arms

[Anonymous No.4142419]

>>4142395
Looks more like a humna. Well done.

Tho there's stuff to point out that still doesn't make any sense, I'd say its a good improvement

[Anonymous No.4142454]

how to hatch better

[Anonymous No.4142459]

>>4142454
Resized and I hope its still not rotated

[Anonymous No.4142476]

>>4142459
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.4142477]

>just have fun with it
>just let your brain and hand communicate freely
>dont worry if it each line isnt perfect

[Anonymous No.4142507]

>>4141077
>>4141075
>>4141052
so now I should just try to redraw the skeleton? this is from the book

[Anonymous No.4142509]

>>4142477
wats wrong budy?

[Anonymous No.4142513]

>wants to make art to do OC stuff and have fun
>realised that I have to learn the fundamentals so my art doesn't look like crap

[Anonymous No.4142519]

>>4142054
Depends on how well you can critique.

[Anonymous No.4142564]

>>4142395
I'm in no way a professional but some things I noticed. I recommend taking a look at >>4141077
>https://pastebin.com/sgZq0vUW
>Search anatomy for sculptors in this link
Just browse through it next time you're drawing and when you run into part of the body youre not sure how it should look like go look in the book.

[Anonymous No.4142566]

>>4142509
Those lines mean so little to me, except the not worrying about perfection part, but the people who say that seem to draw very well even without construction so obviously it seems okay for them to say
I constantly feel like a non artistic person trying to force myself into being one

[Anonymous No.4142578]

>>4142566
>but the people who say that seem to draw very well even without construction
That comes from mileage. Construction is helpful for people who arent sure about proportions and placement. Art should be something you enjoy, but if you can't draw up to your standards it can be very frustrating and unenjoyable experience. Is there anything specific you're struggling with at the moment? maybe I can help :)

[Anonymous No.4142581]

>>4142578
Nah, but thank you for the offer. I'll try to be less of a tightwad.

[Anonymous No.4142639]

>>4142581
One day at a time my friend, we've all been there.

[Anonymous No.4142657]

First inktober piece I did, not too happy with it and I definitely wanna get better. I've been working through Loomis and Drawabox, but definitely need to start posting artwork for critique and shit. Please assist you beautiful bastards

[Anonymous No.4142674]

>>4142513
Create an Oc anyways, and improve with time. Comparing my first drawing of my oc with my latest one is quite satisfying

[Anonymous No.4142719]

>Copy some concept art because I thought it looked really nice and want to learn how it's made and how I can do something like it
>Now feel bad because I didn't create it mysef

[Anonymous No.4142742]

>>4142719
it will never be enough for you huh?

[Anonymous No.4142749]

Does Draw-a-box excercies count for Inktober?

[Anonymous No.4142814]

Anyone ever considered starting a steroid cycle to boost your arm muscles and thus your arm control?

[Anonymous No.4142842]

Tried adding some skeleton, ended up drawing a bunch of random sticks cus dont know how bones work

[Anonymous No.4142846]

>>4142842
reference

[Anonymous No.4142972]

Progress is slow, at least i feel some improvement for now. Think the torso ended up too short here.

[Anonymous No.4143030]

>>4141712
Idk about huston but I think you still need to let loose your hand and eye, you should copy the details last and also how do you see them not how do you remember them

[Anonymous No.4143034]

>>4141777
Learn how to copy from real life, it will help you to deal with detail stress making construction way easier

[Anonymous No.4143050]

>>4141712
what is the point of studying that shitty, unprecise sketch?

[Anonymous No.4143092]

>>4142842
I'm beg but to me it looks pretty cool even with the sticks.

[Anonymous No.4143100]

>>4143030
Do you mean that the drawing is stiff? I've been trying to let loose but I'm having trouble drawing lines that are both smooth and accurate.

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated!

>>4143050
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around Huston's construction method and how parts flow into one another. That sketch caught my eye and I gave it a whirl.

[Anonymous No.4143189]

Doing "Perspective Made Easy"
Am I doing shadows right? The wall isn't supposed to have a shadow, it's just me seeing if I understand how the shadow would change when interacting with another object. And yes, I'll eventually get a proper drawing notebook.
(1/3)

[Anonymous No.4143193]

(2/3)

[Anonymous No.4143194]

(3/3)

[Anonymous No.4143208]

How do you learn to draw facial features

[Anonymous No.4143222]

>>4140920
That makes 0 sense

[Anonymous No.4143224]

>>4143208
by studying em?

[Anonymous No.4143226]

>>4143208
Eyes
Nose
Mouth

Now, change the shape and sizes of those features and you'll start to see different people emerging from your drawings.

[Anonymous No.4143241]

>>4141090
You have to be at least 18 to post here, you should also start by drawing your immediate surroundings before anything else. You also need to read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.4143254]

>>4141789
The top of the pants don't match the angle of the pelvis. Just draw the nude form and practice clothing later.

[Anonymous No.4143255]

>>4141090
Even if you need to be 18 to post here, it's good that you're seeking guidance to learn how to be good at drawing. Start at the sticky thread, learn how to hold a pencil, learn how to use anatomy of people to accurately draw them.
>>Why?
Well you need to understand that whoever drew your quest fan art junk originally also knew the very basics behind drawing and creating characters so if you want to be good enough to accurately and quickly then you must drill the basics down before you start pumping out "finished works".

[Anonymous No.4143293]

How long are people usually stuck on /BEG/

I know with art you are constantly learning, but when are you ever good enough to no longer be considered /BEG/ and be considered passable.

Also does anyone have any good resources on perspective?

[Anonymous No.4143314]

>>4143293
everyone is stuck on /BEG/
everyone that posts out of /BEG/ just convinced themselves they have become good enough

[Anonymous No.4143351]

>>4143293
when you don't get any feedbacks in beg

[Anonymous No.4143357]

>>4143351
Thats all? Lmao fuck this shit I'm outta here.

[Anonymous No.4143358]

>>4143293
When you no longer need /beg/ advice

[Anonymous No.4143360]

>>4143357
bye

[Anonymous No.4143370]

>>4143293
when you have 2 or more people saying you don't belong here

[Anonymous No.4143387]

>>4143314
>>4143351
>>4143357
>>4143358
>>4143370
What's in between /BEG/ and professional?

[Anonymous No.4143395]

Did a drawing of a fake plant during work. Had to rush the leaves because I was in between tasks.

[Anonymous No.4143448]

Okay, how's this comics. I know it's not good but I need to know what's wrong with it so I can improve. Please rip into it, but also tell me what I'm doing right so I can keep it up.

Also as an aside, tell me if the joke lands and if the intention behind it lands. Is it funny? Is it easy to understand what the characters are saying and the implications?

[Anonymous No.4143507]

>>4142749
Up to you anon, I’d say depending on the exercise then you could count it, but if it’s like ghosting lines then hard N

[Anonymous No.4143526]

Just started drawing less than a week ago. Today I tried to draw an empty book cart in the library from a diagonal angle. How can I improve?
I already know that
> I should have started higher to get the fourth wheel on the page
> I fucked up and erased a ton of times
What else? How bad is it? Do I ever have a chance of making it? My hands shake and my handwriting is shit. I'm barely even capable of drawing a straight line.

[Anonymous No.4143529]

>>4143387
NGMI. You either stay /beg/ where it’s all fun and games or be in the crap hole middle NGMI. Then if you’re really good, you’ll be pro.

[Anonymous No.4143531]

Why does all of my figures in sketches turn asian? Every time, even with references, they all look Asian. Please help

[Anonymous No.4143536]

>>4143531
Yellow fever.

[Anonymous No.4143539]

>>4143507
Yeah, I guess drawing ellipses and restating lines don't seem worth an inktober submission. Thank you anon, I will strive harder.

[Anonymous No.4143541]

>>4143536
but I'm a yellow chinker myself desu...

[Anonymous No.4143542]

>>4143448
Please help me.

[Anonymous No.4143544]

>>4143531
that doesn't look like asian

[Anonymous No.4143545]

>>4143448
>>4143542
Drawings look pretty good, though I'm the person who drew >>4143526 so pretty much everything itt looks good by my standards. The joke seems like it would be funny within the context of a longer comic about these characters. As a standalone thing it seems a bit out of context.

[Anonymous No.4143549]

>>4143544
really? Am I just being delusional? Have I finally lost it?

[Anonymous No.4143550]

>>4143531
fixt

[Anonymous No.4143552]

>>4143550
sorry rest of my comment got nuked, Increase the height of the bridge of nose (recess the eyes more), make the nose point down more, don't make the tip too button like if that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.4143553]

>>4143542
relax dude, ic is a slow board
i like the comic but i find the last two panels unnecessary

[Anonymous No.4143556]

>>4143550
much better, I guess it's the nose? thnx

[Anonymous No.4143558]

>>4143553
I'd say the third one still adds to it in a positive way, but the fourth one is unnecessary, and it seems like it was just added to fill the lower right corner.

[Anonymous No.4143559]

>>4143552
ok thnx!

[Anonymous No.4143562]

at what stage should i copy other artists? i can rotate box just fine

[Anonymous No.4143580]

[Anonymous No.4143582]

>>4143558
Would it be better if I just restricted it to end at the third panel? I thought I needed a reaction from fat-knight to top it off, but now looking at it the dialogue is kinda lackluster. I didn't want to make it too wordy but because of that I think it ended up being too shallow.

[Anonymous No.4143586]

>>4143582
Yeah, either end it after the third panel, or revamp the fourth to make it more interesting. The biggest punch line is in the second panel, then the third panel acts as a sort of secondary punch line. The fourth is just pointless as exists now.

[Anonymous No.4143594]

>>4143586
Will do. My friend gave me an idea for a potential 5th panel that would culminate the comic on a more complete note that ties in with the 4th panel but doesn't end in a lackluster note. If it doesn't seem to land I think I'll just stop at the third and restructure the comic.

[Anonymous No.4143595]

>>4143594
Good idea. Do it and post results.

[Anonymous No.4143600]

>>4143550
small/flat face,nose are asiant trait, western faces are usually noses with the bridge starting really high,square gigachad jaw, front usuall really straight small eyes

[Anonymous No.4143601]

>>4143600 meant for
>>4143531

[Anonymous No.4143605]

>>4143600
forgot to mention fix the fucking leg and the thumb on that hand

[Anonymous No.4143606]

[Anonymous No.4143611]

>>4143606

[Anonymous No.4143624]

[Anonymous No.4143626]

really niggay hours

[Anonymous No.4143630]

>>4143606
Is this my 5th grade English notebook?

[Anonymous No.4143642]

i started randomly sketching from imagination instead of from life like i was supposed to but became embarrassed so i crumpled it up and threw it in the trash
going to sleep now

[Anonymous No.4143647]

>>4143600
Holy Shits, thnx.
>>4143605
Oh right, I'll get right to it

[Anonymous No.4143723]

>>4143293
Forever, i guess.

[Anonymous No.4143726]

[Anonymous No.4143782]

>>4143387
You are here forever. Pro is just a myth.

[Anonymous No.4143830]

HOW DO I GET BETTER AT DRAWING FROM IMAGINATION??? WHEN I START DRAWING I GET FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I FUCKED UP, THEN I STOP DRAWING. WHAT THE FUCK???

[Anonymous No.4143855]

>>4143647
https://youtu.be/I9Io87YOFRs

I made this hyperlapse tonight, if you have some time let me know what you think!
I accidentally made a new thread before I saw this. Sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.4143862]

i want to learn how to draw hips and waist, can somebody help me?

[Anonymous No.4143867]

How do i make it so my linework doesnt look so shaky?
When i am drawing it feels like i am drawing but doesnt feel like I am understanding what it is I am drawing, is it normal to feel this way?

[Anonymous No.4143871]

>>4143862
the answer is always the same.

[Anonymous No.4143877]

Did this in an hour and a half tonight, any general advice would be appreciated!

[Anonymous No.4143883]

This one is pretty recent too. Thanks for any advice

[Anonymous No.4143894]

>>4143877
>>4143883
Nice sketches, they look comfy, but what (You) need to work on is perspective and how far away things are relative to the “camera”. Things that are farther away should be drawn lighter, and it kinda looks like in your first drawing, the field near the viewer is directly joined with the hills, making the road seem like it’s shrinking like *snap* that. That’s just an example, also if (You) need to do chicken scratch to get the desired line shape that’s fine too.

[Anonymous No.4143899]

Lucio-kirin

[Anonymous No.4143925]

>>4143830
Draw a lot from reference but apply construction, dont just copy the lines.

[Anonymous No.4143928]

Do any pros even browse this thread or is it just noobs advising noobs

[Anonymous No.4143929]

>>4134189
a little rusty, here's a cerebus

[Anonymous No.4143938]

>>4143929
The mouth is really the only problem I have with this

[Anonymous No.4143941]

>>4143938
how so?
cerebus's mouth is usually weird

[Anonymous No.4143949]

How do I hatch better? Or would it help if I just draw bigger

[Anonymous No.4143976]

>>4143941
If it’s usually like that, then keep it, but whoever originally drew it’s mouth is fucking stupid. That being said, you should keep the mouth to stay true to the character

[Anonymous No.4144038]

[Anonymous No.4144077]

So is it a good idea to try and finsh a book like Fun with Pencils in one day so I can focus on going straight to the excerises to practice? Or is spending a day for every part of the book a better idea?

[Anonymous No.4144100]

>>4143949
Study the old masters. Rubens, Pontormo, Raphael, Michelangelo. Remember that most of the time strokes follow form, so you still need to know anatomy, construction, perspective, whatever.

[Anonymous No.4144112]

>>4140847
I like it, really impressionist

[Anonymous No.4144155]

>>4141885
is that Greta Thunberg?

[Anonymous No.4144194]

How are my feet?

[Anonymous No.4144210]

>>4143976
Is it still off when compared to how Dave Sim draws the 3/4th view?

[Anonymous No.4144212]

As a complete beg, is it helpful to study life by just drawing contours? Or should I get into construction now?

[Anonymous No.4144213]

>>4144194
no anatomy, no perspective, no clear forms

You're basically copying.

[Anonymous No.4144216]

>>4144213
Ye

[Anonymous No.4144217]

>>4144216
Heres a tip, simplify the foot into basic shapes (of course you need to be good with perspective to begin with) and then try rotating it around a bunch of times in different angles. If it sucks, try again and draw from reference a bit more.

[Anonymous No.4144226]

>>4144217
Did and done that.

[Anonymous No.4144233]

>>4144226
rince and repeat

[Anonymous No.4144244]

>>4144194
i cant even understand which part of the feet is closer to the camera, heel or toes

[Anonymous No.4144269]

>>4140821
Imagination prac. Anatomy is probs aids cuz not enough anatomy prac.

[Anonymous No.4144277]

>>4143941
you can clearly see both sides of his mouth is this picture. So either he has two mouths or you drew it wrong.

[Cannon Fodder No.4144319]

I am not precisely a beginner but you could say my skills haven't developed much. I passed all Arts degree slacking, etc, etc... well, just look at this thing I did last month, what do you think.
I'm no good drawing in pc, and I over the years almost just focused on male muscular and/or distorted comical figures, and i badly manage colour.

[Anonymous No.4144334]

>>4144319
>I am not precisely a beginner

[Anonymous No.4144346]

>>4140821
WHY THE FUCK ARE MY HANDS SO SHAKY

[Anonymous No.4144377]

Is it just me or does the right crystal look more "sparkly" (and overally better)?
No matter how I apply highlights to the bottom one it just doesn't seem right. I don't fucking know what Am I doing wrong, and worse, what I did right when I was doing the first one..

[Anonymous No.4144385]

Where did I fuck up my hand anatomy? Used own hand as reference - struggled to keep hand in the same awkward position for long

[Anonymous No.4144404]

>>4142419
ty

>>4142564
Thanks for the book tip, I did a quick skim and it looks pretty good.

And rats, you made it look so good. Thanks for the redline and all. I'm just gonna post something here everyday until I get that good.

[Anonymous No.4144408]

Can someone give me a >quick rundown on paints? What's the difference in gauss, water, acrylic, pigment, etc..

[Anonymous No.4144423]

>>4144346
Eat meat, nuts, seeds, the cut stimulants like caffeine.

[Anonymous No.4144427]

>>4140821

[Anonymous No.4144452]

>>4144385
You'd benefit from using forms that esrly show where they are in space

[Anonymous No.4144539]

trying to understand the area i circled in red, with the tfl and all the other muscles around the hips by drawing them from imagination. Right now i can only draw them as very vague forms
Other than that my proportions are very inconsistent

[Anonymous No.4144573]

>>4144539
Pretty sure that line is where the glute med would overlap the glute max

[Anonymous No.4144590]

Almost ready for ink
Never really drew krillin outside of little chibis

[Anonymous No.4144591]

>>4144590
I am retarded

[Anonymous No.4144644]

>>4144452
Thanks for replying - I appreciate that. Would you care to elaborate? I'm afraid I don't quite understand, what you mean.

[Anonymous No.4144656]

>>4144334
I mean I am NOT a beginner, I have been drawing for 8 years or so. That doesnt mean Im good. If Im here is because I think that compared with the average joe that draws or illustrates around here Im FUCKING SHIT, okay? After all this years I learned nothing about anatomy andd perspective, I just keep on making these stupid cartoons.
Piss off.

[Anonymous No.4144658]

Hi. This is a contest entry in progress. The rules are black white and green only. I’ve been doing several glazes on it and I’ve learned a lot. My plan for the next glaze once it’s dry is to do the center with pthalo green and a darker color as I move from the center to the edges. I’m thinking that I want to keep the left side darker than the right. To get the darker I’m going to put alizarin crimson into the thalo green. I will also be glazing the water with straight thalo and the I will redo the edges of the mountains and rocks. I was going for a glowing effect but I can’t seem to make it happen. Either way. This one has been a real learning experience. It’s also the first time I’m entering an art contest.
All comments welcome. Shred it if you feel the need. I’ve got thick skin.

[Anonymous No.4144665]

sorry. I posted the wrong picture.

[Anonymous No.4144765]

>>4144656
>I have been drawing for 8 years or so
Holy shit dude, I'm sorry I thought the whole ngmt meme is bullshit but looks like it's true

[Anonymous No.4144788]

>>4144408
Google it fag

[Anonymous No.4144792]

I like how inks look.
Can I jump straight into using them or should I get the hang of drawing with a pencil or something?
I'm an absolute beginner who's been doodling on his notebook and not much else.

[Anonymous No.4144804]

>>4144792
Pens and ink are good for your soul and skill. Bad for your mind and hair though. But if you want to do it go for it.

[Anonymous No.4144814]

>>4144804

[Anonymous No.4144842]

>>4144665
Looking much better now Anon! I would add the same white to the river below you added fro the stars. Also make the water at the very close foreground darker to match the environment. That is all I could add but I am just at /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4144863]

[Anonymous No.4144892]

i try to start drawing daily with making a sketch like that at least once a day
i hope one day i will draw enough to actually get better

[Anonymous No.4144950]

Am I way off? I'm aware some areas aren't on par, but generally?

[Anonymous No.4144990]

I’m trying to go for body proportions, I know the face is shit. Just tell me that I need to read the sticky

[Anonymous No.4144992]

>>4144892
Which character is that?

[Anonymous No.4145001]

>>4144804
Define soul and skill.
I just wanna get some of them neat looking ink lines bre
I'll buy a cheap pen and ink and see where it goes.

[Anonymous No.4145005]

>>4144892
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4145011]

>>4144990
draw bigger

>>4143899
use form

>>4143867
less lines, draw from the shoulder/elbow

[Anonymous No.4145060]

trying out some of glenn vilppu's techniques.
I use way too many lines so it ends up being a clusterfuck, but I'm slowly improving in terms of construction I think.
>inb4 stop chickenscratching
I'm sorry, working on it.

[Anonymous No.4145065]

[Anonymous No.4145067]

I can copy and i can frankenstein parts of pictures together but thats it. Where and how do i build on that?

[Req No.4145096]

Been trying to make a little doodle for my girlfriend for our anniversary but nothing feels right about it. Should I make the lines thinner or smaller. Is her head to small. Are my hands bad or good. Just tell me what I should practice, what's right and wrong, and I'll start focusing. Anniversary is a while from now so I wanna make sure she likes it.

[Anonymous No.4145102]

>>4145096
Right now there's an issue with depth perception but luckily that's not hard to fix.
Make the overlapping lines a bit thicker than the lines behind it.
or do some basic shading to add form, since it looks very 2 dimensional right now.

[Anonymous No.4145116]

>>4143526
Pls. Someone? Is it really that bad that you don't know how to improve it?

[Anonymous No.4145121]

>>4140847
cool approach, and color wise it's alrighgt, dont forget to add blues and greens and reds into the skin, and make sure the eyes have better shadow and reflecting light, usually blue

[Anonymous No.4145124]

>>4144863
im a fan of the huge tits and futa cock, but what the hell is up with the 3 pairs of ears

[Anonymous No.4145126]

>>4145116
you need to draw more

[Anonymous No.4145134]

>>4145126
How many drawings until I'm as good as the other people in this thread?

[Anonymous No.4145143]

>>4143526
Look up drawabox and give that a shot.
>Do I ever have a chance of making it?
Too early to tell. Everyone has to start somewhere though.
>My hands shake and my handwriting is shit
That can improve the more you exercise your drawing skills.

[Anonymous No.4145149]

>>4145134
Differs per person.
Also depends on whether you're drawing mindlessly or actually trying to improve with every line you make.

[Anonymous No.4145152]

I have a really bad habit of just kinda putting myself down and feeling like shit when I look at other people's art, how can I get out of this kind of mindset?

[Anonymous No.4145154]

>>4145152
your ambition is too low
aim to be as good if not better than then
you would see their work quality as yours in the future

[Anonymous No.4145156]

>>4145152
You can't, there will always be people who are better at something than you.
Even if you do make it, and go professional, there will always be certain areas that others are just better at.
I'd say it's a good thing though, since it makes you want to improve.
You might feel like shit for a bit, but eventually you'll pick up that pencil again and try your hardest to get better.

[Anonymous No.4145160]

>>4145152
i feel the opposite like ´´ this motherfucker isnt that good i can beat his weak ass if i try it´´ and then i just get pumped and start hitting that loomis

[Anonymous No.4145161]

>>4143830
contour lines my guy who needs shapes when you can just go with the flow

[Anonymous No.4145162]

>>4143830
don't listen to this guy >>4145161
He's a gainsgoblin.

[Anonymous No.4145183]

>>4145152
Being "the best" shouldn't be your goal. As other anon has said, there will always be someone better than you. You will never be "the best". It's not only impossible to be better than everyone else, but improving is something you do until the day you die. You'll never reach the top and be done. It's a nonsense goal. The trick is to have your improvement be a secondary goal and have a primary focus that drives you on a personal level.

[Anonymous No.4145215]

>>4144950
If you're doing this in monochrome, you may as well do it in black and white.

Abstract hair and only do strands as accents.

[Anonymous No.4145218]

Portrait of a young film director (if you can recognise him, that will already be a huge success for me). Made over the last 2/3 hours, not completely fond of it. What could be fixed?

[Anonymous No.4145225]

Currently doing Loomis, what am I doing right/wrong

Also is it fine to be going thru Keys of Drawing at the same time? I usually switch off once I get stuck with one

[Anonymous No.4145251]

>>4143894
I really appreciate the tips! I'll definitely work on my perspective and lines!

[Anonymous No.4145256]

>>4144665
This is really good! I agree with the other poster about what could be added. Awesome job anon!

[Anonymous No.4145288]

Frustrated and I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere. I normally give up on things when I reach this point but I don't want to throw in the towel this time. That being said, I feel like I've plateaued early, and not at a very good point either.

[Anonymous No.4145298]

>>4144950
I can't see his left side plane as clearly as ref

[Anonymous No.4145324]

>>4143448
The problem is that the punchline is in panel 2 and then you have 2 panels of dead space. The first time I saw this it was just the "Yeah I'm not taking medical advice from a guy who shoves leeches up his ass" panel, and because the plague doctor is such a recognizable symbol, it was immediately funny. So really it is funny, but 75% of the panels are dead air.

[Anonymous No.4145388]

>>4145215
Not him but other than your redraw, what are some other examples of hair being done that way?

[Anonymous No.4145418]

>draws since you're a kid
>you're know a middle aged man and you're pretty sure drawing is the only thing that would make you happy as a living
>come to the beg thread in the egoistic hope I can feel better at my level
>basically everyone does more constructed and finished stuff than me

I want ded

[Anonymous No.4145420]

>>4145388
Most painters approach hair this way. Shape design, values, and edge hardness are prioritized. Without irony, Andrew Loomis' paintings are fantastic examples of how hair is done in golden age illustrations.

I know some people might want to bring up artists like Ruan Jia or Krenz, but they also build on top of really cleanly defined value shapes. The strands they paint are for adding texture, not structure.

[Anonymous No.4145423]

How do I know what hue should the shadows and highlights shift towards?

[Anonymous No.4145471]

A study that i'll probably never finish.

[Anonymous No.4145482]

>>4145225
Try practicing gesture drawings so your characters don't look so stiff.

[Anonymous No.4145483]

>>4145218
Xavier Dolan

[Anonymous No.4145485]

How the hell do i cross hatch ive done 30 spheres now and they all look like shit. Do i just keep making more spheres?

[Anonymous No.4145497]

I just got a digital drawing set up, what software should I learn to use?

[Anonymous No.4145498]

>>4144404
what program do you use?

[Anonymous No.4145499]

>>4145124
Really? 2 extra pairs of ears is all it takes to turn you off? :D

Well, the ears are the reason she exists. I once saw a comment complimenting an elf pic "nice set of ears", and idea was immediately born in my mind of an elf with several sets of ears, and it didn't let me go, so I "developed" this OC.

[Anonymous No.4145500]

>>4144539
bruh this is really good, what books are you studying to draw hips?

[Anonymous No.4145504]

>>4145096
just commission a good artist to draw it and tell her you did it.

[Anonymous No.4145506]

>>4145497
windows or macOS?

[Anonymous No.4145512]

>>4145506
Windows 8.1.

[Anonymous No.4145514]

>>4145512
krita

[Anonymous No.4145527]

>>4145514
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4145528]

>>4141850
Can't really answer the questions, but holy shit that video is great. Honestly one of the best videos on 76, even if it isn't finished.

[Anonymous No.4145534]

Drew a stupid joke

[Anonymous No.4145602]

>>4145534
heh

[Anonymous No.4145621]

>>4145498
SAI

[Anonymous No.4145657]

Finally finish my material study, it's been a looong way.

[Anonymous No.4145665]

I feel paralyzed by fear of failure. I want to draw and paint but I keep hesitating and coming up with excuses or just gettin stuck in front of the computer. I feel stupid. I know I should just try to start but it's hard. It's like my self-worth is tied so hard to the result of my drawing being good or bad (mostly bad, I'm very /beg/) That drawing or painting becomes a negative experience because I only produce shit and I feel bad and now my supplies are gathering dust.

[Anonymous No.4145684]

>>4140868
I think it's nornal to dislike things you're bad at. Once you're good at drawing, then reevaluate whether you like it or not.

[Anonymous No.4145686]

>>4145657
I really like it a lot!

[Anonymous No.4145708]

>>4145483
Exactly. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.4145715]

did a quick still life since i never do still lifes. how is this coming

[Anonymous No.4145795]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go1zpxe8ad4

How many years until I can do this from complete /beg/ ? serious question

[Anonymous No.4145810]

>>4144842
Thanks. Yes. I’ll have an update later today.

[Anonymous No.4145831]

>>4145708
As a beg, I like your drawing. It looks pretty accurate. Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.4145889]

Ok. This is all I could do this morning. I’m not sure about the rocks in the waterfall. There’s a really bad glare because of the liquin. But I’d like to lighten up the sky a bit. Giving me fits but it has to be done by Sunday so I’m kinda out of time. Suggestions and input are welcome. I should be able to do one more glaze. And some highlights.

[Anonymous No.4145890]

Shit. Forgot the picture.

[Anonymous No.4145893]

Sigh. Sorry dudes.

[Anonymous No.4145918]

>>4145917
>>4145917

new

[Anonymous No.4145925]

>>4145795
10

[Anonymous No.4145937]

>>4145534
chimba

[Anonymous No.4146069]

how am I doing?

[Anonymous No.4146374]

>>4145215
Thanks, I'll remember to do so.

What kind of brush do you use for the sketch you did to start off? I see some of your strokes naturally fade away, and I'd like to use the same thing. I'm currently drawing in Painter19, but I've got photoshop aswell, if that matters.

[Anonymous No.4146794]

2nd post, but I've been lurking for the longest now
I'll post fundies but some imaginary work to break up monotony

[Anonymous No.4147542]

>>4146794
actually pogu

[Anonymous No.4147595]

currently grinding fundies, how is the anatomy of this pose? am i doing it right

[Anonymous No.4147646]

Recent studies. It's a drawing tiddies kinda day boys. I just realized how massive the girl on the right's lower arm is.

[Anonymous No.4147649]

what courses (not books) are worth buying/pirating? depending on skill level maybe (beg, int, amateur)

[Anonymous No.4148268]

>>4146374
>I see some of your strokes naturally fade away, and I'd like to use the same thing
Hard round brush in conjunction with a large, low opacity round eraser to shape them. You can do this in any of the major software packages. Learn what you can do with basic opacity/flow and size controls before special brushes. All of this was done with a single round brush.
> I'm currently drawing in Painter19, but I've got photoshop aswell, if that matters.
It largely doesn't.