/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4110978]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4106298

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless

[Anonymous No.4110997]

trying to learn female anatomy

[Anonymous No.4111001]

>>4110997
have you even bothered with any anatomy book

[Anonymous No.4111002]

>>4110997
are you looking at a reference as you draw?

[Anonymous No.4111006]

>>4111001
>>4111002
yeah I fucked it up you're right I'm sorry I got lost at the end

[Anonymous No.4111017]

i already know my anatomy is creepy

[Anonymous No.4111019]

>>4111006
too late, you must kys now

[Anonymous No.4111021]

>>4111017
if by creepy you mean shit then yeah

[Anonymous No.4111072]

>>4111021
how is this pose?

[Anonymous No.4111113]

just starting to get into art, this is loomis yeah

howd the copy go?

any pointers and basics i should grind that will be beneficial early

[Anonymous No.4111143]

Here’s where I’m at with my current piece. I’ve got to fix the vegetation by the waterfall, finish the foreground, and a few other tweaks and I’m gonna call it finished and move on. I’ve got 30 hours on this and don’t want to dwell on the flaws. Time to start another. It’s all up on YouTube as I live streamed all of it if anyone is interested. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjMTBZQBxws3OhNur0Jqv5A

[Anonymous No.4111144]

>>4111072
post the ref
seem like you missed some subtle bent of the chest

[Anonymous No.4111162]

Rate me, old masters

[Anonymous No.4111177]

>>4111113
You aren't thinking in 3d. The features are drawn like stamps in a flat plane.

[Anonymous No.4111178]

>>4111113
Before drawing heads start with drawing some cubes, cones and so on. Just do like 5-10 of them. Preferably in perspective of course. And then move to doing heads.

[Anonymous No.4111197]

So I'm trying to figure out how to change the angle of a box in 4 point perspective. I understand how to rotate the box by sliding the horizontal vanishing points left and right, but how do I go about changing the angle of the box vertically? Is it a matter of sliding the vertical vanishing points left and right as well? So confused.

[Anonymous No.4111232]

I did the upside down drawing in the Big Sticky, to train myself to not symbol draw. But the sketch I did turned out awkward looking. His body is too large and I can see many other problems. Usually I end up symbol drawing dispite drawing while putting fundamentals at highest priority.

In this drawing I put fundamentals at a liw priority since, I think I'm doing something wrong.

BTW, I'm the person that did the Pinnochet and James Charles drawings in the previous thread.

Was I ment to draw Igor upsidedown.

[Anonymous No.4111245]

>>4111197
Turn your head sideways and you'll get it dummy

[Anonymous No.4111259]

>>4111162
Someone just told me they like the lineart more and I'm trying not to die

[Anonymous No.4111261]

You have been visited by the benevolent catgirl of good harvest

[Anonymous No.4111268]

>>4111178
okay will do thx for advice

>>4111177
how does one train 3dimensional thought

[Anonymous No.4111269]

>>4111261
Was this your creation, anon? It's godlike, 10/10, I like it so much I can't find flaws. I guess this is the Sakimichan effect.

[Anonymous No.4111271]

>>4111269
Don't be silly, there's plenty of flaws, I just wanted somebody to look at this. What's the Sakimichan effect?

[Anonymous No.4111272]

trying to draw female again

[Anonymous No.4111280]

>>4111271
Sakimichan is supposedly full of flaws but people like the characters she draws and don't care about the flaws

[Anonymous No.4111283]

>>4111280
Thank you very much then, I'm very happy you like it

[Anonymous No.4111304]

>>4110978
ok try to color study the first time

[Anonymous No.4111310]

I was looking for the weeb thread so they could roast me. No reference used just drawing really slowy n shit.

What do you guys think poo poo or not poo poo?

[Anonymous No.4111311]

>>4111245
Did I do it !?!

[Anonymous No.4111322]

>>4111310
Use your own eyes. If that mouth was the chin, it'd actually look decent. Go on. Delete the chin. The mouth is located exactly at the right place for a new chin, and it's round, much better than the dorito you drew.

[Anonymous No.4111467]

Another day, another topic in hustons head drawing.

[Anonymous No.4111476]

just got back from work and could not draw for longer then 30 mins. i think this is the best one(except for the legs. i plans to start leg studys on friday.)

[Anonymous No.4111527]

How do I just grind out the fundimentals? What do I do to just brute force my way into good fundimentals?

[Anonymous No.4111554]

>>4111527>>4111527
Draw just a shitload of something
Inside your brain it will become a stamp kinda- so you can just bring it back out when you need it for future drawings.

[Anonymous No.4111557]

>>4111304
You did a lot right anon

[Zachfag No.4111622]

Update on Vinny. Didn't work on this for a few days cus of other work getting in the way. Finished the refs and started on the head and collar. I'm beginning to realize my lines are kinda bland, prolly cus I'm just using the default brush at 15 size and size pressure.

[Anonymous No.4111631]

>>4111197
I was wandering about this aswell about a year ago, but it seems there's not a lot of information on curvilinear perspective techniques. If your goal is to get a better sense for drawing in curvilinear I think your best bet is to use a 3d program with fish eye and predict how an object will turn in curvilinear, or use fish eye video and do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.4111633]

>>4110978
I THINK I'M COLOR BLENDING WRONG

[Anonymous No.4111636]

>draw face from imagination
>it becomes handsome squidward EVERY TIME

[Anonymous No.4111646]

>>4111272

[Anonymous No.4111650]

>>4111633
Not bad, but you need more hard edges. Right now it's all lost edges so it's looking a little murky. Also maybe try introducing a few other colors. Maybe some blue or purple in the reflected light?

[Anonymous No.4111673]

>>4111622
Your lines is the least of your problems. The fact that your drawings are flat a board is much more damning.

[Anonymous No.4111678]

>>4111304
Lightbulb is kino

[Anonymous No.4111695]

any critique?? first time coloring

[Anonymous No.4111698]

Trying to construct heads.

[Anonymous No.4111699]

does photoshop have a feature for adding circles around numbers?

[Anonymous No.4111701]

This is my first attempt at digital art and first attempt at art in 6 years.
>inb4 the texture on the brush repeats too much
I know.

[Anonymous No.4111756]

[Anonymous No.4111761]

>>4111695
That is great for a first time try. especially the pussy are seems well done with the ambient occlusion. Spend some more time on the upper torso as well please! The armpit and the ribcage should be well defined when it comes to shadows they are major parts of the shape after all.

>>4111633
Have you chosen a set light direction or two or three? It seems to be coming from his head but not really.

[Anonymous No.4111801]

Did each one in under 3 min
... don't think I'm gonna make it anons.

[Anonymous No.4111812]

nowhere near clean but I tried to see how fast I could fill-up the pic with drawings.

[Anonymous No.4111884]

>>4111650
I'm not sure how to place a hard edge- and how hard is too hard?
I kind of get nervous about my shadows and I start blending it.
>>4111761
>ambient occlusion
I had to google that term because I'm basically illiterate in terms of actual art

[Anonymous No.4111887]

I need to learn how th ebody works and how to draw shapes

[Anonymous No.4111916]

>>4111017
one eye on the booty
one eye on the streets

[Anonymous No.4111923]

>>4111017
>anatomy is creepy

yeah its the anatomy not the art depicting the fantasy of a budding school shooter

[Anonymous No.4111928]

[Anonymous No.4111943]

>>4111699
Download a font that has them. Or just unicode.
http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_circled_numbers.html

[Anonymous No.4111959]

>>4111311
Not quite.
There'll be two VPs - you slide one up/down on a vanishing trace, it works exactly like in linear persp. except you slide it on a curve instead of a straight line.
The other is literally behind the viewer, so it can't be projected on their lens (drawn within the cone of vision on your picture)

[Anonymous No.4111962]

>>4111959
cont. Fish (and some cameras) have spherical lens, which makes it possible to project much more of the environment onto it, but otherwise it follows the exact same rules as human lens.
You wouldn't try to cram both vanishing points in a one point perspective on the canvas, so don't attempt it in curvilinear perspective either.

[Anonymous No.4111964]

I'm bored at the class

[Anonymous No.4111966]

[Anonymous No.4111993]

>>4111887
you are scribbling too much and some of your lines are counter-productive, going against the form or in some random direction

i can still tell what it's meant to be and feel the form so it's not the worst possible but it'll look 50x better cleaner, in addition to not letting you hide your failings in the mess of lines

also study anatomy. maybe start with the shoulder and arm: you need to know about deltoids

[Anonymous No.4112004]

For some reason drawing upside down doesn't seem to work well for me. I still end up drawing but even worse. Also all the guides I have seen on it don't start with constructing the 3d forms.

[Anonymous No.4112120]

Not finished yet.
Any things that need to be fixed? Things that should be added?

[Anonymous No.4112128]

You have been visited by the benevolent thousand-palmed quadriplegic
>>4112120
That's very pretty anon, I don't have any critique unfortunately

[Anonymous No.4112147]

>open yt tutorial
>cute female voice

[Anonymous No.4112153]

Been considering getting Design Doll to help with my poses, seems really useful but could it potentially be a crutch somehow?

[Anonymous No.4112162]

I started this gouache last night.

[Anonymous No.4112175]

>>4111884
Help is on the way Anon. Here is a complete rundown of what you can do to enhance the shading based on someone else's explanation. Of course you do not need to do all of it but this is good for reference and study purposes.

[Anonymous No.4112177]

>>4111884
and the second one to >>4112175

[Anonymous No.4112182]

>>4112120
I am just a /beg/ but not gonna lie Anon I think that is fucking awesome!

[Anonymous No.4112200]

>>4112120
Soul

[Anonymous No.4112201]

>>4111304
It's really good, anon. The only critique I have is that it could use some texture on the pot and vase if you wanted to push it further, but what the heck are you doing in /beg/? People post much worse than this in the drawthread

[Anonymous No.4112203]

>>4112120
It looks nice but the focal points seem a bit random imo

[Anonymous No.4112223]

>>4112175
>>4112177
tried some of this on my sketch

[Anonymous No.4112225]

When do you start gesture drawing?
And what's a good way to start doing it?

[Anonymous No.4112228]

Okay so how do I obtain a color harmony like pic related, I am this close to achieving my own "artstyle" but I am always end stuck when I have to select my palette. All I can get from these works is that one color is always on the higher saturation side among a bunch of grays, and all of them have a warmer tone. But how do I know I am doing the right color choices? I know the answer is gonna be practice, but still is there a "shortcut" or key to achieving this specific approach to coloring? I am currently reading Quiller's Color theory book and it mostly talks about color wheel and scheme types so far.

[Anonymous No.4112230]

>>4112182
>>4112200
Thanks anons

>>4112128
Really cool character design
I think it‘s worth to work it out more like adding shadows for example

>>4112203
I tried to have distribution of dark and light areas.
So you think there are too many focal points? Or is it just their position?

[Anonymous No.4112235]

>absolute beginner
>start reading sticky
>start upside down Igor Stravinsky
If only you knew how bad things really are.

[Anonymous No.4112242]

>>4112228
here is a commision I am working on, so lets say the red is the main color in this composition and its on the warmer side, so do I select the pinks,cyans,blues etc. accordingly that goes well with the main color and overall color grading of the piece, and how do I get the hightlights,midtones and shadows of the other non-main colors.

[Anonymous No.4112255]

>>4112235
This still works as an caricature

[Anonymous No.4112261]

>>4112228
>>4112242
Ave you watched the "understanding color" video yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1FK8n7WgY

Or the color harmony on the 10 minutes for better painting series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhcNbFMkTw

I hope these may give you some ideas. Good luck Anon

[Anonymous No.4112284]

>>4112261
I have watched both of them, the first one just talks about the schemes, the second was quite helpful but I didnt get what I was looking for. Like lets say my main color is red and I use greys communicate with each others, but what greys should I pick, do I have to eyeball everything or there is a short way out of this? if I follow accented analogic scheme, then technically speaking spidergwen's shoe shouldn't be /that/ cyan.

[Anonymous No.4112321]

>at the dmv
>decide to catch up on Fun With a Pencil
>everything starts to click only 32 pages in
This is really getting me excited to draw fellas

[Anonymous No.4112336]

>>4112120
Really cool, nice control of an otherwise unpredictable medium.
I'd probably scan it to my PC, adjust the composition and paint over it with some watercolor brushes on overlay to add some color.

[Anonymous No.4112367]

I'm trying to better understand noses with proko's tips to avoid relying on anime or simplified designs

[Anonymous No.4112383]

>>4112177
>>4112175
What the heck I thought this was made by cgi or some shit. Do movies like monster inc do this aswell?

[Anonymous No.4112500]

>>4111144
ref is next to the pose

[Anonymous No.4112507]

>>4111959
Ahhhh ok I see it now. Thank you! that makes more sense. I get so confused when it comes to the vanishing traces/special vp.

[Anonymous No.4112517]

Why do I have to study gesters and dynamic poses when I can simply use refrences and mannequins to copy with my eyes?

[Anonymous No.4112538]

>>4112517
>I can simply use refrences and mannequins to copy with my eyes?

Do it and show us how it went.

[Anonymous No.4112539]

>>4111884
Here is a demonstration on hard vs. soft edges. The harder the edge means(as you probably know) that it suddenly goes from light to dark. This happens when there is a sharp change in the subject's surface like the corner of a square(see 1)). Ambient occlusion is also usually hard edge (see 3)).

No how hard is it you need to be able to to tell from the shape of the object you are painting and roughly how much it deviates from facing the light source or how perpendicular it is to the light's direction. Or if it is covered by another object that casts a shadow to it then the distance between the two objects is a good indicator.. This just have to be learned but you are already doing an okay job. Just practice it more, use real life studies or photo studies you will get it in time.

And we also have reflected light, or using multiple light sources to mix up everything once again but I will not talk about those for now.

[Anonymous No.4112546]

>>4112517
You do not havet o, you do not have to do anything. But it is good because it makes your work faster, more confident, you will be able to exaggerate forms as well. It makes you just better at it on a base level. Plus if you wish to start drawing for imagination too (just for fun maybe, you know) then that will be of great help to you.

[Anonymous No.4112648]

>>4112223
It is not bad, please spend more time on the upper torso area as well if you learn the body's surface better you can do more details. The ribcage is not flat it is a rounded surface wit ha pretty prominent underside, the belly area is also rounded especially if you go for making some idealized slim belies. Then the pecs are also quite prominent depending on fir the person it or if it is male of female of course.

Keep practicing Anon!

[Anonymous No.4112653]

Why the FUCK does mine picture look so flat.
If I try to use more than 3 or 4 values of one color on the same place it just looks smudgy but the original pic (left one, duh) uses so many values on the same place (the handle of the dagger for instance) and it just looks right.. it looks nice and it even adds some texture to the material.
FUCK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.4112658]

>>4112648
thank you, I am learning anatomy using Hampton

[Anonymous No.4112666]

>>4112230
You know, the longer I look at it the harder it is for me to tell whether I'm full of it or not, but my eye keeps being drawn to the plant in the bottom left corner because it contrasts so heavily with its surroundings, that could really be the only thing. Or it could be purely subjective.

[Anonymous No.4112672]

I tried. At least it looks like Wolverine.

[Anonymous No.4112693]

>>4112653
Add more contrast to it and add a lighter background to it. That is the main difference I can see

[Anonymous No.4112699]

I think that the head structure that I drew is a bit squished compared to the book's reference, don't ya think?

[Anonymous No.4112702]

>>4112699

[Anonymous No.4112739]

You‘ve seen it coming and it’s here, and it’s terrible.

[Anonymous No.4112740]

>>4112739

[Anonymous No.4112749]

[Anonymous No.4112755]

>>4112693
Is there some rule to knowing how much lighter / darker should your darks / lights be in difference to the "medium" values ?
I always just eye some random value when picking it from the color wheel and go with that. Which obviously sounds like a retarded way to go about it..

[Anonymous No.4112762]

>>4112755
It is not a retarded way to go about it at all.
If you really want some rule thenjust use the color wheel's color palette and pick your colors say get 25%, 50%, 75% and BAM you got your basic values, this isn't a law values change based on the picture's general brightness and contrast anyways. anyways.. Just experiment more, like if it is not working for your eyes right now then make yourself the habit of eyeballing what you see right now and then increase that by a great deal just like that and then learn how this changed things.

[Anonymous No.4112812]

>>4112225
Anytime really, The Vilppu drawing manual starts out with that actually.
I found that the most use you get out of them is in the shorter/ simpler ones, up to the 2 min range, since that forces you to ignore the detail.
It can be quite abstract so it might be some time untill you feel like you really understand it, so it's best not to obsess over it.
If you feel stuck look at how different artists approach it, theres a lot of styles that emphasize different things, the way one artist approaches it might just not connect with you that much.

>>4112367
Looking good my man.

>>4112517
Think of it like the difference between drawing contour vs. understanding form, it's a new way of seeing things.
Understanding gesture is going to make your drawing come to life in a way that just copying reference or mannequins will never do.

[Anonymous No.4112846]

so about boxes...


do i just keep doing it at different angles or what?

what other shapes are good to learn 3 d thinking. i wanna grind these until mi good enuff to start drawing people and other 3d objects with accuracy.

how long should i grind (assuming im doing about 2-3 hrs daily)

[Anonymous No.4112849]

>>4112739
>>4112740
It's really cute to see you try to improve but never actually improving, it makes me really happy that I'm not a retard like you.

[Anonymous No.4112853]

>>4112846
>Falling for the box meme

[Anonymous No.4112854]

>>4112846
you can't even draw a fucking box straight

[Anonymous No.4112864]

>>4112846
Grinding boxes only makes you good at grinding boxes. You act like there's some magical moment where you're grinding another box and *poof* it magically becomes a loli. That's now how it works. If you can draw a cube, grats. You pass the exercise. Now move on to drawing more complex shapes.
I know I'm dealing with autism, who need this kind of structure, but art isn't about "grinding", it's about using simple shapes to combine into more complex shapes, and you practice drawing simple shapes at any angle, to have the confidence to draw more complex objects at any angle.
Art is not an MMO. Perspective is not a rep to grind.

[Anonymous No.4112870]

>>4112228
You have all the tools you need, but you think of color in terms of "right" and "wrong". It's subjective. What's the right color? The one YOU pick. How do you unify the color composition of a piece? By using the techniques and methods in the books you discount.
Erase everything you think you know about color composition. Start over. Value. Hue. Temperature. Composition. Focus on these. Stop thinking in terms of someone else telling you if it's "right" - focus on learning to make the right choice for your piece, according to your needs and style, and apply color theory to unify the composition in a pleasing way.
What you're asking for is paint by number. You need to learn to make the decisions yourself.

[Anonymous No.4112879]

>>4112284
Stop looking for shortcuts. Yes, you eyeball it. You make artistic choices. It's not "technically", it's what YOU CHOOSE. And you get the confidence and ability to choose from experimentation, study, and experience. Apply your brain, stop looking for push button "do this" shortcuts. Being an artist isn't about being "technically" correct, it's learning how to navigate creative choices towards a pleasing image endpoint. If you can't do that right now, that's fine. You're in a beginner forum. It's something you need to study and explore. The whole idea is to get enough hours at the easel/tablet to where this kind of choice is instinctual, and it's not a matter of memorizing charts or something. It's developing your mental art muscles so where you don't even think about it, and only break it down to theory when you're stuck, or having problems, and a painting/project isn't working.

[Anonymous No.4112880]

>>4112702
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4112910]

>>4112849
Anything else to say? Like criticism?

[Anonymous No.4112968]

Can anyone give some advice on how to get better with drawing layers?

I get the general jist of starting out with a very rough sketch and refining it, but how exactly do you do it? Finer and longer strokes instead of itty bitty hand movements overlapping lines?

[Anonymous No.4112980]

>>4112749
NGMI

[Anonymous No.4113068]

I need help and tips for hair

[Anonymous No.4113140]

>>4112201
like I said
this is my first color study so I guess beg would be suitable

[Anonymous No.4113143]

I just finished the drawing, wish I would have added muscles but I'm satisfied. Any major critiques you guys have?

[Anonymous No.4113149]

This will get buried here, but I'm really happy with how it turned out. This is my first truly complete piece of digital art, and my first attempt at shading. Guessing I spent a good 10- 15 hours on it over the past few days.

What do you think? Does the shading look okay?
Anything off about it, that I may have gone blind to from looking at it for so long?

[Anonymous No.4113151]

[Anonymous No.4113156]

[Anonymous No.4113162]

[Anonymous No.4113165]

>>4112980
Fuk off crab

[Anonymous No.4113170]

>>4112175
I wanna do that c-c-c-combo attack too

[Anonymous No.4113177]

>>4113149
You'll become mikufag's best buddy. He'll teach you the ropes.

[Anonymous No.4113184]

>>4113177
Who's mikufag?

[Anonymous No.4113191]

>>4113149
Looks ok, Shadows are a little understated, but that's not really a problem just a prefrence.
Also, the "underwear" shading on the left leg/ groin does not need to be there.

Another preferential thing, but is the forehead a little too big? move the eyes up a little bit try to give her a facial structure that a skull could be under. That might take away the uncanniness.

Ok art, but prepare to get called a pedo by possible crabs.

[Anonymous No.4113219]

Shitty anatomy i know, Amy good books?

[Anonymous No.4113222]

Are there any guides to learn how to construct and draw the eye? Something like how the Loomis head can construct a basic head from any angle sort of thing.
I read through quite a few books but none really give a reliable "formula" that helps me understand.

[Anonymous No.4113223]

This is not my art but I want it to be. But I can't seem to get my pen to make lines like this. Please help

[Anonymous No.4113241]

How do you all go about drawing solid (ie: not fly-swatted) poses?

[Anonymous No.4113245]

>>4113222
Eyeballs are pretty simple, you just need to get the proportions of the iris and pupil right. The eyelids are the hard part. I don't know of any specific books, but I've seen tutorials that drill down into online. What make it click for me is that the eyeball controls the shape of the eyelid, the lid wraps around the ball - and that most beginners don't give depth to the lid, they draw the lash right at the edge of the lid, and don't have the actual thickness of the lid behind it.

[Anonymous No.4113252]

>>4113241
Start with gesture, to get the overall flow and feel of a pose, then refine with an actual figure with construction and more refinement there on contour and shading. Or work from models.
Gesture helps you with the overall flow and dynamics of a pose. Construction is for the form, and studying anatomy helps you get a feel for structure and how to indicate center of mass and planting the figure on it's feet in a convincing way - and then drawing the legs, pelvis and torso correctly for the pose. Grounding a figure onto the plane of space it occupies is important. One of the first thing to consider where all of the weight of the figure is centered on, if it's standing, sitting, or reclining, or in motion.
Make sense?

[Anonymous No.4113263]

SOUL or SOULLESS, please tell and yeah i know it's sideways, i'm a faggot who can't afford an scanner

[Anonymous No.4113266]

>>4113263
OH noes i fucked the spoiler too, shit i'm a failure at everyhing

[Anonymous No.4113278]

>>4113184
Just found out who hes some bad artist who used to post here. Is it really bad? Whats wrong with it specifically? I want to improve.

[Anonymous No.4113290]

>>4113278
The only true way to improve from the prison called anime is draw buff manly dudes from bridgman or any anatomy book with buff manly dudes.

[Anonymous No.4113297]

>>4113263
What does not having a scanner have to do with opening up an image with the free image apps Windows and Mac gives you free, and rotating it? Hell, if you pirated CC, Bridge will rotate it in thumbnail mode, without opening it.

Now, your image. Good start. Lots of symbol drawing in there, you're drawing what you think is there, not what is. But, better than most beginning attempts. Drop the meme "soul" bullshit, and concentrate on learning to draw. All that "soul" nonsense will come later. Right now, you're all about technique, and drawing what you see. Start with not copping out on the hair, and draw actual hair, not random lines and smudges. And, start looking at proportion. Is this from imagination, or a reference?

[Anonymous No.4113300]

>>4113191
I really appreciate the feedback, but would you mind elaborating a bit? By understated do you mean the shadow shapes, are overly simplified, or that I just didn't shade certain points that I should have?

>Another preferential thing, but is the forehead a little too big? move the eyes up a little bit try to give her a facial structure that a skull could be under. That might take away the uncanniness

The face looks cute to me, but It's hard to judge something objectively after working on it for so long. What do you mean by uncanny though? Does it look like I fucked something up, or is it more that you aren't a fan of the style?

Sorry to pester you, I just want to see where I need to improve.

[Anonymous No.4113307]

>>4113290
I'm gonna do this.

Is it actually ugly at all though, or is it just that you thing the subject matter is gay?

Does it look reminiscent of Mikufag's art, or like I'm symbol drawing or something?

[Anonymous No.4113321]

>>4113223
That's not a pen. That's digital. So of course you can't do it exactly like this. The closest you could get is probably with brush and ink. First do the black and then add white splotches.

[Anonymous No.4113323]

>>4113321
That's what I meant. Digital pen. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.4113328]

>>4112762
Ok then.
Thanks my dude !

[Anonymous No.4113331]

>>4112739
>>4112740
Don't reply to this guy he's a confirmed crab poster and he shits on anything better than his work while pretending to be someone else

[Anonymous No.4113342]

>>4113245
Thanks for the image. The lids are where I'm struggling with right now and stuck somewhere around steps 3 and 4.
I understand how the lid is supposed to behave around the eyeball but struggling to put those lines down and getting a feel for the shape.

[Anonymous No.4113358]

how do i learn anime anatomy

[Anonymous No.4113361]

>>4113358
real anatomy but its drawn by lazy japanese retards

[Anonymous No.4113362]

>>4113361
how do i learn that

[Anonymous No.4113383]

I've been working on this for a while now. This is my 2nd attempt at doing a digital painting.

How's it coming? Any tips?

I plan on colouring it once I feel like the grey scale is good enough.

[Anonymous No.4113388]

>>4113068
Second attempt

[Anonymous No.4113389]

>>4112879
Is there anything else, like a book or a video you’d like me to check out,( I am currently studying Quiller) because i am kinda lost and I desperately need a mentor. I obviously am aware that practice would do the trick, thats what I am currently doing but these artists definitely have a pattern that they follow, and thats what I wanted to know. That said If anyone has a solid grasp on color theory and is willing to mentor a fellow newbie, feel free to ping me on discord

[Anonymous No.4113408]

>>4113383
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.4113412]

>>4113383
Needs more darker tones, it'd too flat. The shirt blends in with the skin.

[Anonymous No.4113420]

>>4113412
Thank-you, the shirt is supposed to come up more white. I'll be sure to fix it and the tones across the face.

The eyes are just place holders atm too. I know they look dead.

[Anonymous No.4113451]

>>4113383
u need to study head anatomy bit more so u'll know how to put shadows correctly. i would recommend u a smoother brush

[Anonymous No.4113476]

>>4113388
Nose/lips perspective looks wrong compared with rest of the face.

[Anonymous No.4113478]

>>4112968
loomis book.

[Anonymous No.4113481]

>>4113476
I know the nose and lips are too far down the face but now I see the nose is facing the wrong way. I'll keep that in mind. The lips are fucked because I still don't know how to draw them. But thanks for a response.

[Anonymous No.4113483]

>>4113068
seems that the head is too big but aint not really sure :/

[Anonymous No.4113486]

>>4113481
it's okay ur learning and it doesnt look bad at all. keep it up!

[Anonymous No.4113491]

>>4113388
I am just a beg but I am loving this!

[Anonymous No.4113495]

Is it bad if I first use a reference to draw something, and then when I'm done I overlay the reference directly on the drawing to see what I did wrong, and then fix it directly with the overlay still there?

I got pretty close on some parts of a portrait I was doing, but the proportions were all fucked (eyes & ears way too high up on the head, leading to a bigass forehead and elongated face, among other things)

[Anonymous No.4113497]

>>4113495
do it you're learning.

[Anonymous No.4113498]

>>4111259
whoever told you that is a damn dirty liar.

[Anonymous No.4113500]

>>4113495
Anon, that’s actually pretty good what you’re doing, keep it up and study more but you should try to improve your eyeballing skills and using relations to gauge how far or how close things are. And do loomis head and the placement of the facial features

[Anonymous No.4113509]

I’m curious what people think of this ? Well there you go. A copy of it exists on the internet

[Anonymous No.4113512]

>>4113509
My friend asked me to draw a manga and this is what I did in 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.4113528]

>>4113509
If you added backgrounds and more characters, it would look like something that would be cool and fun to read if I was your friend/family

[Anonymous No.4113551]

>>4113068
>>4113388
Looks pretty good apart from some things here and there.
Honestly I think you're at a point where you won't get any use out of the beg thread anymore, but everywhere else on ic still tells you to fuck off to beg.
You probably won't get a valuable response, nothing past a "nose/lips/hair looks kinda off"

>>4113383
More fundamental than value or anatomy is the problem that you're symbol drawing.
Try sight-size or the block-in method, just anything that makes you draw what you see instead of what you think is there.
Read the Sticky, learn your fundamentals before you try a marathon.

[Anonymous No.4113553]

>>4113223
Bumping this question

[Anonymous No.4113558]

>>4113553
do not if im getting this right but you only have to low the oppacity of your pen ? i mean i do see anythin' special about it

[Anonymous No.4113563]

>>4113558
I do but it doesn't have the same effect, where you can see that it's darker where lines overlap.

[Anonymous No.4113566]

Also I can't seem to get my pen pressure to work smoothly. Pic related is a steady increase in pressure, that goes from soft line to maximum pressure line instantly

[Anonymous No.4113584]

>>4113566

If you haven't already, check your pen pressure curve

[Anonymous No.4113588]

>>4113584
I've messed with it a lot but nothing changes

[Anonymous No.4113838]

>oh boy time to draw a face
>pen keeps getting stuck on the depressions left by erased lines as I'm trying to capture the extremely subtle shapes humans can instantly decipher in an area that's like 4 centimeter tall

how the fuck do I avoid this
>don't draw so small
but it's a full body picture and the torso is taking up like all of an a4 paper on it's side

[Anonymous No.4113845]

>>4113838
Don't press so hard with the pencil for your under-drawing

[Anonymous No.4113847]

"woah dude that's AMAZING"
"shit, you've come so far since you started"
"Is that a photograph???I though that was a photograph OMG!!!"

>when you get home

[Anonymous No.4113854]

>>4113838
Scan the drawing, cut out and enlarge the head, print it out, draw

Compose it all together in photoshop

Or just do it all digital

[Anonymous No.4113859]

I found a drawing tablet in my neighbors trash and amazingly it works perfectly. It's an "Office Kanvus 54". I've never used a drawing tablet before, what sort of software do I need? Pic related, I doodled this in ms paint using my new tablet

[Anonymous No.4113864]

>>4113331
When did I outright shit on somebody?

[Anonymous No.4113866]

>>4113859
Amazing find Anon that is a great. You should type its name into google and get the drivers for it. After that it should be working for any graphics software, or double as a mouse. :P

[Anonymous No.4113876]

>>4113866
I got the drivers working and installed Krita. Does this look okay? I'm struggling a bit with the fact that it doesn't have a screen, drawing on it doesn't feel natural. Does that go away with practice?

[Anonymous No.4113878]

>>4111993
Thanks for the feedback man. You definitely hit a lot of the shortcomings I know I have.

My issue with lines definitely comes from a lack of confidence and panic. Keeping an eye on this I'll move along and do some arm/hand/shoulder studies.

[Anonymous No.4113879]

>>4113876
Hand eye coordination amigo, yea after a bit of time it will go away.

[Anonymous No.4113880]

>>4113297
Thanks man, i think it was this one Loomis girl, yeah i i made up a lot of the details, the eyebrows are a bit higher and her face is less round, about the hair, should i draw a solid block of hair and place the highlights/texture later?

[Anonymous No.4113881]

>>4113876
Yes it is weird at first but do not worry you will get used to it pretty soon. Just make sure its settings, pen pressure/sensitivity are comfortable for you.

[Anonymous No.4113883]

Mess my butt senpais

[Anonymous No.4113885]

>>4113883

[Anonymous No.4113888]

>>4113885
I mean, critique everything. I really want to git gud. I see a lot of mistakes but i couldn't see how to fix them. The biggest problem i see is the light source... i believe

[Anonymous No.4113894]

>>4113888
Learn color theory primarily how shadows and light and the basic rules of warm light and cool shadows vise versa, why the fuck does he looks like a boy even tho cirno is a girl, your anatomy need some fixing also this is giving me some anorexic vibes, I do think the face is quite unappealing considering its leaning towards a bit too realistic even tho most animu art i found has a common trend of realistic rendered body and stylized facial features. Also what’s your mistakes? You could go back and read indepth on some anatomy books and a bit in color theory to get a foothold in terms of lights and shadows. And I see a lack of soft shadows on some areas.

[Anonymous No.4113917]

>>4113894
Tried to give a yakuza kind of face, dunno about the anorexia since cirno its a child.
Gonna get started on colors then.

[Anonymous No.4113943]

>>4113917
children don't have thin limbs, they just have different proportions.
I know the kind of face you were going for, but honestly it always looks bad, so just don't. If you want a kind of indignant, intimidating expression, find that kind of expression online and emulate it.

[Anonymous No.4113947]

>>4113943
Thanks, gonna work on it. Ill see if i can fix this one too

[Anonymous No.4114002]

How do I keep my wrist from mildly bending whenever I draw using my arm? It’s putting mild curves into my lines and its fucking with me.

[Anonymous No.4114008]

learning anatomy michael hampton

[Anonymous No.4114039]

I'm extremely new (first week).
I thought drawing tits would be easier but I was wrong, very wrong. Also trying to figure out shoulders and neck told me that I need to look up anatomy shit.

[Anonymous No.4114060]

>>4113551
> Honestly I think you're at a point where you won't get any use out of the beg thread anymore, but everywhere else on ic still tells you to fuck off to beg.

I figured as much.
I am still learning and I appreciate any feed back non the less. And I don't know where else to go.

[Anonymous No.4114087]

>>4114039
Here's a tip from a fellow /beg/. Tits are (usually) ovals, not circles. and they sag unless they're fake. Even big ones.
>t. girl
>INB4 "dilate tranny" "you're never be a real girl"

The shoulders are kinda too broad too, unless they're a tomboy/muscle-girl, then it's ok.

It's ok anon, I'm bad at shading too. It's good that you are learning. I recommend draw-a-box (+ Scott Robinson books) for perspective and shading and Keys to Drawing for anatomy.

Don't give up. I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.4114094]

>>4114087
there are females on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.4114101]

>>4114087
Alright, I'll learn to draw some ovals next. I've just been drawing circles to start off, so I went with that. also the shoulders were a rush job since I mainly focused on the breasts and the neck.
Thanks for the tips, and I'll check out those sites/books. I don't plan on giving up so expect me to pop up in the threads constantly.

[Anonymous No.4114157]

>>4113388
>the eyes are over shaded.
>the nose is angled improperly.
>the lips simply aren't drawn right.
you should probably just re-learn facial features/composition.

the proportions are good though, and the hair looks great. the drapage looks good too.

[Anonymous No.4114166]

>>4113307
They're fucking with you, if you want to improve and then stylize figures you may try the systematic approach from Glenn Vilppu's figure drawing courses. It will introduce you to the fundamentals necessary for all good drawing and the methods necessary to execute a good drawing regardless of style. What certainly helped me was Loomis's head drawing books such as fun with a pencil and drawing the head and hands along with a combination of real world figure drawing and Vilppu's approach especially the gesture drawings.

With that being said, ignore those faggots they're trying to turn you into a buttbuddy for some reason.

[Zachfag No.4114180]

Not entirely /beg/ related but when did Adobe fuck up the free transform tool in Photoshop? The blue box now makes it look like a generic scaling tool and I can't even see the axis point, even after I change its position when holding down alt and clicking somewhere else in the selection. That's basic shit and I have no idea why you can't see it anymore.

[Anonymous No.4114189]

could someone explain to me how shoulders work on skinny people, cause Hampton only has 50yo bodybuilder anatomy, I can't fifure out where to these bones come from, particularly in the "deltoid" area

[Anonymous No.4114238]

Any tips?

[Anonymous No.4114261]

Scarlet Witch. I had a lot of problems with ink bleeding which messed up the pink parts and made it a lot darker than expected and used light blue to try and even it out. Also I still have no idea how to make correct flesh color since orange+pink is way too dark. Maybe I should have kept it in black and white.

[Anonymous No.4114289]

>>4110978
OH SHIT look at this. this was painted 12th century china. European art back then was a piece of shit compared to this lol

[Anonymous No.4114320]

>>4112147
kek

[Anonymous No.4114373]

any advice to help me grow as an artist?

[Anonymous No.4114377]

Advice on simplifying lips?
And how do you draw lips on men without it being too feminine?

[Anonymous No.4114379]

>>4114373
Aside from basic anatomy and line weight. The composition is just off. Is the red head suppose to be tiny?

[Anonymous No.4114384]

>>4114379
it's supposed to be a little girl

[Anonymous No.4114419]

So I figured out the reason for a big issue I've been having with these clouds. I feel like near the bottom/middle they don't really have volume

I've tried to draw contour lines and past the rounded areas I get kind of lost. The thing is, I really like how these look aesthetically, but I want to get a little more detailed with them in terms of shading and coloring eventually. Can anyone help me figure out the contour lines for one of my clouds?

[Anonymous No.4114422]

>>4114419
I don't know why it came out rotated when I changed that in my files, sorry

[Anonymous No.4114428]

can someone redline for me how is the ribcage situated here for me?

[Anonymous No.4114439]

reading perspective made easy and having a good time but I really don't understand how to draw a cone laying down
what the fuck am I looking at?
is there like a video or meme image that actually explains this shit?

[Anonymous No.4114457]

>>4114439
You just have to try and copy the image over and over to be honest, you probably haven't developed your sense of 3D thinking and form far enough to get it, no disrespect.
It will click soon and you will actually get what the image shows.
Not trying to sound agressive or mean, not my first language.

Good luck!

[Anonymous No.4114472]

>>4114457
kek
I just figured it out
guess my brain is still good for something

[Anonymous No.4114476]

>>4114472
Nice!

[Anonymous No.4114489]

>>4114439

[Anonymous No.4114492]

>>4114489
oh no
my problem was laying the cone on a flat surface
but I already go it

[Anonymous No.4114495]

>>4114439
It's pretty poorly explained. D'Amelio doesn't explain it very well either and I remember a conceptart.org thread with a bunch of guessing. I just skipped that section or just eyeball when needed unless someone has an actual explanation.

[Anonymous No.4114496]

>>4113880
That would be a good way to approach it - start with a block shape, and refine it.

[Anonymous No.4114498]

>>4114002
Drawing from the arm is best for drawing on a large canvas or paper. If you're on a small tablet or piece of paper, drawing from the arm is a pointless exercise. You draw from the arm, or the elbow, depending on the context of what you're working on. If you're on a small table or page, draw from the elbow, or wrist. You'll have more control.
The "always draw from the arm" meme here is one of the silliest and completely useless memes ever come up with. Draw however you get the most stability, so you can draw smooth lines.

[Anonymous No.4114503]

>>4114087
Parts of tits are ovals, for some women. Breasts are some of the most complex shapes to draw accurately, even when people are using breast implants as a reference, and think that's normal. A breast is a different shape, according to what angle you look at it from, and the position of her body. They can be teardrop, or a sock in an orange, or a cone. Or a million other shapes. It's a bag of fat, attached to the torso with an irregular deformation of the skin, constrained at it's tip by the nipple. Natural breasts are never circles, rarely ovals, and come in every shape and size, and have complex S curves in their construction. They also don't point in the same direction, unless it's a bad boob job, or they're fat and have so much extra fat in them, they hang down. For a firm breast, if you are looking directly at a nipple, the other one will be seen in profile.
And that's your tit tips for the day.

[Anonymous No.4114508]

>>4114419
Why do you keep posting this image, with different issues? This is like the 4th time I've seen you post it, for different reasons.

[Anonymous No.4114513]

>>4114492
>>4114495

???

It shows a cylinder and a cone laying on a flat surface

are you guys absolutely retarded?

[Anonymous No.4114514]

>>4111923
lmao this

[Anonymous No.4114556]

>>4114513
The idea is to put things in "proper" perspective. If you want to eyeball it and go "that's a cone laying flat", you can do that but you can never master perspective that way.

Norling completely glazes over how the ellipse end is affected when you drop the cone because you're actually tilting a plane when you do this so the ellipse changes and the cone foreshortens as a result.

[Anonymous No.4114573]

>>4114556
Yeag, the drawing is not that good

But he shows the concept well I think, atleast you should be able to get it from context?

He even shows how the "plank" shifts

[Anonymous No.4114581]

>>4114508
I'm pretty sure the other time I posted, it was a different cloud, they all kind of look similar but I'm just trying to approach it from different angles and mindsets. Like right now I'm trying to understand the forms inside of the shape but like I said I feel like it loses volume in the center and I can't figure out how to address that. My first post on these threads was unrelated to that, Not to mention it was like a week ago?

[Anonymous No.4114587]

To the asshole who talked shot about my art last time,

Thank you. I have really enjoyed refining and rewor king the process I dI'd to do this.

This is my updated version, will reply with my original.

[Anonymous No.4114588]

>>4114587
My bad shit is on the left, the guy who gave me advice redrew on the right.

[Anonymous No.4114591]

>>4114419
>>4114419
>>4114581

Clouds are 3d just like everything else you absolute dummy, they're even simpler than most things

If you can't draw maybe don't stylize your shit

[Anonymous No.4114593]

I have a really hard time figuring out what I'm supposed to be doing. Reading the sticky over and over doesn't help me so much, I can't digest the information because I have no idea where to start or when I should move on to the next part of a linked book. Lack of structure is really killing me so I just end up drawing hundreds of boxes or circles like an autist because I can't figure out where to go from there. And when I try to do something else I just get frustrated and start scribbling on the page. But even after all that I can't stop "trying" to draw even though it's killing me mentally.

[Anonymous No.4114603]

>>4114591
Thanks for your help anon, I'd love to see what you're capable of! You're clearly leagues better than I am.

Mind posting your work? :)

[Anonymous No.4114604]

>>4114593
try to represent a human figure using boxes

[Anonymous No.4114614]

Trying to feel some forms

[Anonymous No.4114652]

>>4114603
I can draw way better than you

this is something I did in 5 min

[Anonymous No.4114666]

>>4114652
I just wanted to bait you into seeing what you can do to be honest.

It's great to see someone with such ability blessing us with their presence. Next time do you mind being so kind as to give some more pointed advice?

[Anonymous No.4114669]

>>4114652
Suck my ass

[Anonymous No.4114673]

>>4114669
>>4114666
fuck you newb, YOU SUCK MY ASS

[Anonymous No.4114680]

>>4114673
You're replying to 2 different people you dip. Holy shit dude why is your head so far up your ass. This is an advice thread stop acting like you're better than anyone here. This isn't the place

[Anonymous No.4114682]

>>4114673
Cunt

[Anonymous No.4114684]

>>4114680
>>4114682

No need to get nasty

[Anonymous No.4114694]

>>4114684
>>4114680
>>4114682

Suck my ass, I can out draw all of y'all

[Anonymous No.4114714]

>>4110978
this glass of water is tough

[Anonymous No.4114729]

I'm having fun doodling frogs

[Anonymous No.4114751]

I did the first exercise in keys to drawing but I wasn't wearing shoes so I just drew my feet.
I know that I fucked up the length of the toes

[Anonymous No.4114770]

[Anonymous No.4114772]

>>4114770

[Anonymous No.4114775]

>>4114772
Thank you all

[Anonymous No.4114792]

>>4114714
That doesn't seem very beg of you anon

[Anonymous No.4114798]

>>4114694
weak flex but ok

[Anonymous No.4114821]

Still going on this. I paint slow. Most of my time is spent on trying to get the right colors. And 15 mistakes. This is definitely my best painting so far and I’m looking forward to signing it.

[Anonymous No.4114824]

>>4114238
It looks like he has a vertical ridge on his forehead. Put more care into your hatching. Even in thumbnail it looks like a blotchy, hairy mess.

[Anonymous No.4114830]

>>4114666
Stop drawing contours and start drawing 3d forms retard. You were given this advice at least 3 times already.

[Anonymous No.4114831]

>>4114714
Now paint from imagination.

[Anonymous No.4114924]

Is IbisPaint X a good app for sketching on android?

[Anonymous No.4114928]

>>4114714
Good shit Anon! Well done on this study! Make more of these!

[Anonymous No.4114930]

I don't really know what I'm doing, but I guess rendering is nothing else but taking this further and further until it looks like something?

>>4114614
Nice looks like you're getting the idea.
Apart from the jarring ones with the disconnected forms that look like playdough abominations, but you have plenty of time working on tightening those up once you really get used to it.
You're using too much line though, you're on digital right? you can afford to hit the undo key 10000 times if you don't hit a line perfectly.

>>4114714
Really nice, should start doing some still-life's as well.

[Anonymous No.4114931]

>>4114373
Start from the basics

[Anonymous No.4114932]

So, i hate oil painting, my logical conclusion was to switch to acrylic but I cannot find any resources on how to actually use them besides "lol random abstract shit"
Is it completely pointless to try and make realism/surrealism in acrylic?

[Anonymous No.4114934]

>>4114377
Thin lips on men or no lips at all (depending on styling). You can draw both lips on women or just the bottom one if you want a certain look to it.

[Anonymous No.4114936]

>>4114751
People can have stubby toes or crazy long ones. I've seen people with toes almost the length of my fingers once and it freaked me the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.4114937]

>>4114936
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.4114943]

>>4114932
>forgot pic like the dumbass i am

[Anonymous No.4114946]

>>4114821
That's awesome

[Anonymous No.4114967]

>>4111006
Try again, then

[Anonymous No.4114982]

most recently done piece- did it for the sp thread a few days ago

[Anonymous No.4114994]

>>4114652
lol that other anon was impressed by this shit

[Anonymous No.4115005]

>>4114238
Why do you keep posting the same 2 drawings every time?

[Anonymous No.4115010]

>>4114377
Thinner lines on the upper lips.
Drawing only the mouth opening.
Drawing only the darker parts (mouth corners and maybe the middle).
Shading the upper lip and drawing the bottom lips' cast shadow.

[Anonymous No.4115038]

i decided to do another no ref face since i did a fuck ton of studies how did i do? i know i need to change my approach to the eyebrows and the overall hair proportions are off a bit.

[Anonymous No.4115046]

>>4114982
really good work overall, the only thing i don't like is the shading under the chin.
everything else works well. personally i would have made the contour of the hair slightly thicker.

[Anonymous No.4115068]

>>4114982
The shading under the chin makes it look like she has a double chin.
Bonus points for freckles and the mouth, she looks really cute.

[Anonymous No.4115074]

I'm planning on coping a graphic tablet with a budget of around 100 euros, what carateristics should I pay attention to? Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.4115079]

>>4115005
It's not his work probably

[Anonymous No.4115092]

I really tried here, please critique :(

[Anonymous No.4115093]

So after grinding several books I really seemed to fail at drawing from imagination. So I'm trying to do some gesture and construction based on models. Anyone can look at these and see what I might be doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.4115097]

>>4115093
You grind those books to learn anatomy not fucking poses

[Anonymous No.4115102]

Is it worth continuing with art if I'm 37 and it still hasn't clicked despite 20 years of trying?

[Anonymous No.4115104]

>>4115102
pyw and also state the reason why it didn’t “click”

[Anonymous No.4115114]

>>4115102
Have you ever actually tried to draw something beyond figure drawing gestures and Lookis heads?
If you don't stretch yourself and fail in the process you'll never learn. You could draw for 100 years, but if you just keep drawing the same thing in the same way, you'll never get better.

[Anonymous No.4115116]

>>4115093
>So after grinding several books I really seemed to fail at drawing from imagination.
Imagine my fucking shock.
Almost none of the books and the advice shilled here are designed to actually teach you how to draw.

[Anonymous No.4115119]

>>4115092
It's so wrong that there's not much point in critiquing it. Just draw copies of the kind of works you want to imitate for a while.

[Anonymous No.4115124]

>>4115097
Well yeah, but shouldn't I build the anatomy on top of those poses? Shouldn't I first create the gesture, then the basic construction and build the muscles on top of that?

[Anonymous No.4115125]

>>4115116
So what helped you to learn how to draw?

[Anonymous No.4115128]

>>4112739
>>4112740
You are the only person on this board who is unironically ngmi.

[Anonymous No.4115129]

>>4115125
Trying to draw something I wanted to draw.
Figuring out what's bad about it.
Fix what's bad about it.
Repeat.
Not giving up on a drawing after 2 hours is probably the biggest thing.

[Anonymous No.4115131]

>>4115125
Don't listen to that guy too much he sounds like a bitter anime drawing shitter.
He is only half right, the books are more of a guideline and are supposed to help you think about what or how to look at things as you're drawing them. Basically they help you teach yourself. There are no shortcuts. The amount of effort you put into learning will shine through eventually. If you don't enjoy bettering yourself, even if it's little by little and slowly over time, then just give up.

[Anonymous No.4115135]

>>4115124
Gesture > Construction > Anatomy,
Ofc there are some people that just went right into anatomy or just has a sense for gesture to begin with and went straight into construction. Try to actually observe how people make something from start to finish.

[Anonymous No.4115136]

>>4114932
There are tons of videos on Youtube for painting realism with acrylics.

[Anonymous No.4115142]

>>4115079
>>4115005


>>4114824
I get to excited, need to calm down a bit when drawing maybe

[Anonymous No.4115147]

>>4115129
This would work really find for me when I just tried drawing from reference. I can pretty much make a photorealistic looking drawing based on a photo. It's also pretty fine when I use a photo as a reference for the pose and then draw my own character from imagination.

The problem starts when I start out completely from imagination. In the previous step I had the read contour pretty much and filled it in myself. I could also use measuring to make sure of certain things and do corrections when something was wrong. But when I do it 100% from imagination I don't have that.
>If you don't enjoy bettering yourself, even if it's little by little and slowly over time, then just give up.
I do and it's not like I haven't improved. My first drawings based on photos were crap as well and I was really impressed how better I got it. But I kind of hoped I guess this would help drawing from imagination and to a degree it did. But not that big of a degree.
>>4115135
That's why I posted a drawing of how I would build a character hoping I would get some tips on what I'm doing right/wrong.

[Anonymous No.4115150]

>>4115147
I can pretty much make a photorealistic looking drawing based on a photo

I would like for you to prove this

[Anonymous No.4115151]

>>4115147
>I can pretty much make a photorealistic looking drawing based on a photo

I would like for you to prove this

[Anonymous No.4115154]

>>4115147
Draw more, draw more, I was able to draw poses from imagination after Drawing like 200 poses from reference used krenz’s construction method which was heavily rely on your understanding of perspective and feel for it and just use primitive forms to draw poses. My trick was to use 3d models and live models, 3d models for rotating the camera around and live models to get the overall shape and form of the human body while applying krenz’s method of construction.
Went from 0 to able to draw poses from almost every angle.

[Anonymous No.4115155]

>>4115154
>krenz’s construction method
please post source

[Anonymous No.4115156]

>>4115150
Ok, it's not like I'm a master at it. But at least I don't feell dissatisfied looking at drawings like that. On the left is me drawing from a photo, in the mid basing the pose on a photo and the right me drawing something from scratch. I couldn't really find anything that I made from scratch, I posted some of them in other threads here before but I was always told the main problem was with construction.

[Anonymous No.4115157]

>>4115155
https://e-hentai.org/g/883632/deb86d946f/
Fair warning, if you suck at perspective this method will be total hell.

[Anonymous No.4115159]

>>4115157
This is an example of one

[Anonymous No.4115163]

>>4115154
>>4115157
Mind elaborating a bit on the process of how you used these? Would you first redraw his drawings and then trying what you learned to live models? Or did you just start from imagination and then look at his drawings for tips on correction.

[Anonymous No.4115168]

>>4115163
Well I just follow the example and use what I understand in perspective to set the figure in another perspective or angle. As I said this method heavily relies on your understanding of perspective. Redraw his drawings? I did redraw a couple just for fun. Drawing poses from imagination? I would first try to loosly imagine one and place the hips and chest simplified into boxes and then problem solve and think what is this figure doing, running, jumping, sleeping, standing, ect you get the idea.

[Anonymous No.4115173]

>>4115092
Learn more anatomy
stop hiding the hands and feet
learn to draw equal titties since one of them is lopsided and looks sad

[Anonymous No.4115175]

>>4115154
>My trick was to use 3d models
What did you use for this?

[Anonymous No.4115177]

>>4115175
Well so I can rotate the model around and draw it. I would draw the same pose over and over again from multiple angles then move to another pose and repeat.

[Anonymous No.4115180]

>>4115177
I mean what program did you use for this.

[Anonymous No.4115184]

fugg this is hard

[Anonymous No.4115185]

>>4115180
Custom maid 3d 2.....
I recommend getting Daz Studios or design doll.

[Anonymous No.4115201]

>>4114946
Thank you. I’m going to finish it today. I’m giving myself one more hour. That’s it.

[Anonymous No.4115279]

>>4114087
I was looking through the draw a box lessons and it talks about not drawing from the wrist but with the shoulder. Is this how I should be drawing?

[Anonymous No.4115288]

>>4115279
For more straighter and longer lines, yes. Use wrist for details.

[Anonymous No.4115294]

>>4115288
I guess I'll practice how to do that then. Glad I found out about this early into my learning rather than later.
Are there any tips for learning how to get used to drawing with the shoulder? Besides just doing it over and over.

[Anonymous No.4115336]

>>4111812
All of your boxes don't work at all, go back to perspective until you understand it

[Anonymous No.4115346]

>>4113162
Good stuff, too many lines for me, but if it works for you it works. How long were these?

[Anonymous No.4115350]

>>4113219
Bridgman's life drawing

[Anonymous No.4115355]

>>4113388
Just learn how to draw the face in an appealing way and you'll be good, everything else is top tier

[Anonymous No.4115362]

>>4113838
Use a light box to draw on different layers

[Anonymous No.4115366]

>>4114039
Nothing is easy, if you think something is easy spend more time on it, especially when you get to shapes

[Anonymous No.4115373]

>>4114189
It's just the acromion and clavicle

[Anonymous No.4115389]

>>4114261
Nigga what happened to her torso? Pay attention to prorportions

[Anonymous No.4115393]

>>4114428
Look at it dude, seeing the ribcage as a basic form in space is a basic necessity, why are you asking someone to find it for you. If this ref is too hard to see then look at a few other ones where the ribcage is more defined

[Anonymous No.4115415]

>>4114729
this morning I wanted to draw a toad, how did i do

[Anonymous No.4115442]

More studies from the cartoon animation book.

[Anonymous No.4115444]

>>4115442

[Anonymous No.4115458]

>>4115294
No tips at all sorry, bare bone basic just draw with the shoulder or elbow a lot.

[Anonymous No.4115473]

>>4115458
Nothings ever easy I guess.

[Anonymous No.4115513]

>>4115444
The legs and hands looked awkward when I did the second one.

[Anonymous No.4115532]

>>4115442
banjo

[Anonymous No.4115588]

new >>4115585

[Anonymous No.4115750]

>>4110978

how's anatomy lookin' (i cant draw penis) its for a friend

[Anonymous No.4116449]

>>4112175
This makes a lot of sense but why is the multiply layer pink?

>>4112539
Duly noted! I like the bounce light giving her undercarriage a soft highlight on it.
I got more to add to the composition.

[Anonymous No.4116705]

getting started in digital art, any advice on how to draw hair ?

[Anonymous No.4116834]

>>4113219
Try Figure drawing from Hampton lad.