how do you get good at drawing lolicon?

[Anonymous No.4108085]

[Anonymous No.4108091]

firstly you unironically have to feel attraction towards little girls. secondly you have to realize most people do feel attraction towards little girls, most times disguised as a desire to protect them. thirdly go study.

[Anonymous No.4108093]

Don't know, but I unironically studied a lot the work of Mitsui Jun, i'm not a weeb and he draws shotacon, but I learnt that most of the Magic is not un the lweds, but on how is setup the emotions, Jun can convey cuteness and hotness at the same time, by relyng on the expressions the body can provide, I guess lolicon is the same but with girls?

[Anonymous No.4108096]

Lolicon are actually pretty fun to make in construction. You should learn how to use a "Mannekin" construction technique.

See: Loomis' Figure drawing book, ~p.29-32

After you'v read up on that it will be pretty simple. loli's mimic children, so keep the width of the hips the same as the ribcage. arms and legs have no real definition of muscles so you are perfectly fine if you just want to draw cylinders.

[Anonymous No.4108124]

>>4108085
when you end up in prison

[Anonymous No.4108137]

>>4108124
it's lines on paper you can't end up in prison unless you use real reference, otherwise anyone who drew cherub art would be behind bars also

[Anonymous No.4108140]

Why is everyone a pedophile on this fucking website

[Anonymous No.4108144]

>>4108140
lolicon = pedophile
anon please tell me you are joking

[Anonymous No.4108146]

Why would learning lolicon be any different from learning other things?
Lack of references? Well, people do draw fantasy creatures by mix and matching other references, don't they?

Just look for petite women and make their heads bigger, actual children have Frankenstein proportions whereas little, grown-up women are what you want. Sexy hips, waist/legs, etc.

[Anonymous No.4108158]

>>4108146
yeah the lack of good reference makes it harder (not that i want actual reference of 3dpd) but it's such a non normie thing to like so there isn't even many tutorials on it, or how to draw books. but i want to get as good as pick related in how soft and cute my loli art looks.

[Anonymous No.4108163]

>>4108144
the word is a literal reference to lolita complex anon, it has everything to do with pedo/hebe. you cannot feel attracted to lolicon without being attracted to young girls, which is, was and will always be extremely common. denying this is as much of normalfaggotry than condemning it, since a large portion of western pornography is also turned to safely provide alternatives to vent those desires.

[Anonymous No.4108172]

>>4108163
>, it has everything to do with pedo/hebe. you cannot feel attracted to lolicon without being attracted to young girls

imagine being this wrong i only like lolicon and don't like little girls in real life and i think anyone who harms real little girls should be necked, though i am a lolicon.

lolicon and pedophila sure have connects but they are not the same thing. not every lolicon is a pedo, for me i just like looking at cute things doing lewd things that's what i get out of lolicon i'm drawn more to because of how cute it is while being sexy, which is completely not how i feel for real life little girls whom i find annoying and disgusting.

[Anonymous No.4108209]

>>4108172
>i think anyone who harms real little girls should be necked
the people who'd hurt little girls are the same who'd hurt adult women if given the chance and stimulus. feeling attraction towards someone is different from felling attraction to control someone through violence
>lolicon and pedophila sure have connects but they are not the same thing. not every lolicon is a pedo
yes, they are. lolicon is just a safe way to satisfy your desires towards young individuals
>which is completely not how i feel for real life little girls whom i find annoying and disgusting.
>annoying and disgusting
you guys tend repeat that word by word as a mantra. this is just denial

[Anonymous No.4108219]

>>4108091
How can you mix an evolutionary, completely basic instinct to protect the younger individuals with sexual attraction? You fucking monster. Drawing Loli is Ok tho.

[Anonymous No.4108225]

>>4108209
>the people who'd hurt little girls are the same who'd hurt adult women if given the chance and stimulus. feeling attraction towards someone is different from felling attraction to control someone through violence
i agree with you here on this point
>yes, they are. lolicon is just a safe way to satisfy your desires towards young individuals
i can't agree with you on this, i would never touch a little girl in my life and think all those that do need the rope and am a nice person in real life but i'm a lolicon. fiction and reality are not connected to one another and that is the sane way to view it anyone who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality for whatever reason has mental illness.

>you guys tend repeat that word by word as a mantra. this is just denial
i can't speak for all lolicon, but i am not a pedo it's the same as how not all people who are into gore are violent people, there is a hard difference between fiction and reality.

[Anonymous No.4108231]

>>4108158
Junior idols will give some child references. Pinterest has children refs

[Anonymous No.4108328]

>>4108209
Do you think furries wanna fuck real animals?

[Anonymous No.4108340]

>>4108328

Look at the my little pony scene. The answer is: the closer furry gets to the real thing, the more likely the answer is yes

[Anonymous No.4108351]

Don't you guys get bored of arguing about the same thing a billion times? It's the same conversation over and over with the same arguing points and the same "murder just the same as sex" and "lolicons don't want to hurt real children". Just stop already.

[Anonymous No.4108363]

>>4108340
sure there are some but that is not the case for everyone, not everyone who draws rape doujins wants to actually rape anyone, or for bad things to happen to real life girls. shindol L drawn rape doujins but i'm pretty sure he doesn't want to or supports rape or groping in any form as he even shows his parents his doujin work.

[Anonymous No.4108365]

>>4108085
how do you not?

seriously. Every guide to drawing the human body starts with skinny flat bodies. Make the head slightly bigger and you're set

Adding fat to make your drawings thicc is way harder.

[Anonymous No.4108386]

>>4108363

Did you just sidestep your own argument?

>he even shows his parents his doujin work

Well that's on him. There are plenty of fucked up people on this earth that don't realize how fucked up they are, and plenty of loving and supportive parents that will continue to be by their side, thick or thin. Don't think cases like the one you mentioned are the norm. You try showing your parents some of his stuff and telling them you made it (assuming they believe you) and then come back and say everything's fine.

[Anonymous No.4108389]

>>4108158
anatomy books usually has chillun refs

i dont draw true lolicon so it has no utility or interest to me, but its there.

i think the ideal loli is short and flat but still female proportions. a lot of people use this as an excuse to refer to them as shortstacks or whatever to hide the fact its a subgenre of loli anatomy when they get accused of it

[Anonymous No.4108401]

>>4108085
the answer is obvious
draw from life :)

[Anonymous No.4108409]

>>4108085
Fucking freaks. This is why bullying needs to come back.

[Anonymous No.4108414]

>>4108401

[Anonymous No.4108419]

>>4108409
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO SOMEBODY HEEELP, BULLY THOSE MEANIES FOR ME

[Anonymous No.4108421]

>>4108419
Go back

[Anonymous No.4108422]

>>4108401
does your fbi agent know you are saying stuff like this

[Anonymous No.4108573]

Been trying to learn how to draw the loli form for a couple years now, and every time I post I get reamed for it. Nobody seems to know what's wrong.

[Anonymous No.4108581]

>>4108401

[Anonymous No.4108584]

>>4108573
Back off Miku-fag

[Anonymous No.4108825]

>>4108091
>drawing buff men
>That means you must like men to draw the, correctly
how full of shit you are

[Anonymous No.4108835]

>>4108825

That depends on the subject matter of your art. Are the buff dudes goin' at it? Das gay, yo.

Same with your lolis. Are they in front of a school just coming out of class, surrounded by sunflowers, and an interesting (and clean) angle? Totally legit. Degenerate shit? You're a fucking pedo in denial.

[Anonymous No.4108841]

Anime children are literally rectangles with a circle on top

[Anonymous No.4108847]

learn 5-6 head proportions, use shorter skull study from photo references and artist you like

and don't listen to lolihater or moral fags! stay strong in your boat!

[Anonymous No.4108884]

Exhentai has thousands of loli doujins. Study the ones you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.4108948]

>>4108085
Depends how abstract you want it. I think you can get pretty far just copying other artists that are good or suit your tastes, but I know for a fact that a couple of my favorite japanese loli artists study the real deal from time to time (jr idols).

The artists that have been active for more than a decade or two might even have allowed themselves to study from actual cp from before cp possession was made illegal in japan (2014), but I have no hard evidence of this being done.

[Anonymous No.4108957]

Hello anon,
While I have not found and excact 'loli' drawing book ,here are a few books i can recommend (all are in Japanese):

(How to draw Moe (Basics) - Most 'loli' like book - book 1)
https://mega.nz/#!HNhU3IDD!1ZdaYZksV9-H8I-QP42Au7P6R0qlidrjprlfapz8WkE

(How to draw Moe (action & expressing emotion) - book 2)
https://mega.nz/#!HNhU3IDD!1ZdaYZksV9-H8I-QP42Au7P6R0qlidrjprlfapz8WkE

(Young girl anatomy book - very "loomis-y")
https://mega.nz/#!mS5jzaKA!7-triHuQJSfOqoMKecW2rnU6pVySaY-9cYYd96IIWFU

[Anonymous No.4109125]

>>4108957
1st and 2nd links are the same?

[Anonymous No.4109126]

>>4109125
because all anime is the same

[Anonymous No.4109130]

>>4109126
kek

[Anonymous No.4109153]

>>4108957
bless you anon

[Anonymous No.4109155]

>>4108140
because anime.
Every anime watching manchild is a pedophile. Just like furryfags, the root is always anime. Fucking disease.

[Anonymous No.4109161]

>>4109155
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GET OFF MY JAPANESE CULTURE SITE WITH YOUR JAPANESE CARTONS YOU MANCHILDREN WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MOOOODS

[Anonymous No.4109177]

First draw a tube then add 4 sticks to it then finally an anime head.

[Anonymous No.4109187]

>>4108835
>drawing a dude shooting another dude
>somehow your stupid fucking brain comes to the conclusion i must like murder and outright enjoy it
youre fucking out of this world delusional

[Anonymous No.4109194]

This is a stupid question surely from someone that can't draw for shit and it doesn't belong in its own thread

[Anonymous No.4109200]

>>4108847
125cm is pretty small for a 10 year old. Which book is this from?

[Anonymous No.4109201]

so lolicons say that they are only attracted to 2D girls and that they would never do that in real life.

well I want to say that I am only attracted to 2D Buff Anthros and I don't think I could ever have sex with a real dude but nobody believes me.

[Anonymous No.4109204]

>>4109201
maybe you look like a faggot

[Anonymous No.4109223]

>>4109201
that thing doesnt exist in real life so you arent really in the same spot as a lolicon. If you jerked off to dogs or some shit maybe but still thats reaching. Homo

[Anonymous No.4109331]

>>4109187

DO you draw people shooting each other? Do you pay for drawings of people shooting each other? When you do draw them, what's the reason they're shooting each other? I promise you, if you can answer honestly, then you can see how in denial you are about hidden biases and undiscovered desires. You're sincerely in denial.

[Anonymous No.4109350]

>>4109331
youre advocating for thought crime.

[Anonymous No.4109378]

>>4108957
Does anyone have the actual link for that second book?

[Anonymous No.4109454]

>>4109350

You're advocating that art isn't an expression of one's thoughts and feelings. Explain why you think that isn't true, while still keeping >>4109331
in mind

[Anonymous No.4109464]

>>4109454
commissions, simple as. Now stop desperately trying to stop someone from thinking anything. I bet youd unironically copyright strike someone for singing a song in their head

[Anonymous No.4109499]

>>4109125
>>4109126
>>4109153
>>4109378

Link for second book:
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=26C043C3B7A779ECAB5B527677A48E2C

[Anonymous No.4109508]

>>4108419
>pedo
>basedjak poster
Checks out

[Anonymous No.4109511]

>>4108158
hot
there's always russian models on instagram, and gymnastics videos on youtube. you don't really need nudity to check those sexy proportions

[Anonymous No.4109526]

>NOOOOO!!!! YOU CANT JUST BE ATTRACTED TO LITTLE GIRLS!!!!! THATS ILLEGAL IM CALLING THE COPS YOU PEDO!!! LITERALLY ABUSE DONT YOU KNOW REAL LIFE WORKS DIFFERENTLY FROM THOSE LOSER CARTOONS!!!

[Anonymous No.4109536]

>>4109464

You have to be ok with making the commision in the first place, which says what kind of person you are. Now the first time you mentioned "thought police" I let it slide because I assumed you were a moron (so far, not debunked). But now what's this about not allowing people to think things and making it illegal?>>4109464

Where are you getting that impression? I'm arguing if you draw loli's, you're a pedo. If you like lolis, you're a pedo. Say otherwise, you're a pedo in denial.

Same deal with "people shooting each other". Draw it? You might have some idealizations going on. Pay for it? Same deal.

So what's this about making thoughts illegal? I'm explaining what it says about you as a person, I never gave any opinion on whether we should make it illegal to express oneself. Maybe I'm totally cool with pedos outing themselves? Who knows?

tldr: You're projecting HARD. You're trying to counter an argument that was never made in the first place to sidestep what's really bothering you: you don't like that everyone knows what you are. Pedo.

[Anonymous No.4109554]

>>4109536
>le epic passive aggressive name calling
You don’t realize the weight of calling someone a pedo and you take things as face value a bit too much. You should stop making full psychological assessments based on someone’s drawing alone, especially if you didnt study the subject

[Anonymous No.4109571]

>>4109554
Anti-pedo "lolicons" are the worst fucking hypocrites. They'll decry moralfaggorty, then turn around and call anyone who isn't in denail about their attractions evil. Must be hard going through all the mental gymnastics so you can conform to social norms because you're too much of a coward to stand up for something controversial.

[Anonymous No.4109572]

>>4108328

[Anonymous No.4109577]

>>4109571
Youre implying im a lolicon, which i never stated, and you wrongly called me a pedo multiple times, you also assumed i personally draw lolicon material. I never stated Im a moralfag, im arguing youre addressing people with HEAVY AND FUCKING DANGEROUS accusations based on unprofessional psychological assessments. Lock yourself up or you might ruin someones life with your accusations, society gobbles this shit up like its nothing and im 100% sure you have no fucking clue of the weight of your words.

[Anonymous No.4109589]

>>4109572
Dude was pretty lucky that Dolphin didn't climax otherwise his penis would have been torn to shred by the powerful muscles when it contracts.

[Anonymous No.4109595]

>>4109536
This is too black and white. Someone drawing a murder doesn't make someone want to commit murder. But humans are naturally tribalistic and men especially are more in tune with violence, whether that's for defending themselves, their mate, or acquiring resources for their family/tribe. So yes, we do have a connection to violence, as it can be seen as advantageous, but I fail to see the connection to actual murder from drawing violence.

[Anonymous No.4109596]

>>4109589
Female climax is a psyop

[Anonymous No.4109598]

>>4109589
yeah, but imagine his satisfaction knowing he just made a dolphin cum

[Anonymous No.4109600]

>>4109577
>DANGEROUS accusations
>the weight of your words
Lmao people call each other pedos constantly with no evidence, it has as much credence as calling someone a nazi. You are terrified of the word because society told you to be. I think only in the west is there this delusion that "lolicons" and pedos are seperate. When you're reading a h-manga with a loli that constantly refers to the age of the girl there is obviously a fetishization of youth.

[Anonymous No.4109603]

>>4109596
>you can literally feel the ring like contractions around your dick
you should have sex

[Anonymous No.4109604]

>>4109577

Do you draw loli? You fucking pedo.

>>4109595

You didn't read anything I wrote. I said if you draw a murder, ask why you drew it. If you draw kids because it's a school setting, then that's fine. If you draw kids because you think that's sexy, then yoooooooooo what the fuck dude. Same with violence. Trying to highlight something or make a message? Fine, whatever. Doing it because violence is cool? Bruh.

Seriously, reread this shit and tell me where the black and white it.

>>4109454
>>4109536
>>4109331

[Anonymous No.4109607]

>>4109598
You do not want to be anywhere near a fucking dolphin when they are close to climax, they turn into sadistic rapists and there are stories of Dolphins deliberately making an orifice out of another fish and abducting them while still keeping them alive to some cave to use them as living onnaholes.

[Anonymous No.4109608]

>>4109600
>You are terrified of the word because society told you to be
Ok you unironically have 0 fucking clue of how real life works. Maybe that’s why you’re so quick at name calling. Life is not an an anonimous image board, never forget that.

[Anonymous No.4109610]

>>4109608
The fucking state of 4chan. Yeah life is what your facebook friends would approve of you fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.4109611]

>>4109608
this is no real life, it's 4chan
100% males are hebes and 25% legit pedos anyway

[Anonymous No.4109615]

>>4109571
Bro, just because I like monster girls that doesn't mean that I go around, saw women and animals in half and sew them together in order to get "the real thing".

[Anonymous No.4109616]

>>4109611
I am not a hebesexual

[Anonymous No.4109619]

>>4109600
>Lmao people call each other pedos constantly with no evidence, it has as much credence as calling someone a nazi.
Let's conveniently ignore that ones life is over once they are wrongly accused. The hate mob that's trying to kill you is just the tip of it all.

[Anonymous No.4109622]

>>4109616
>did not have sexual relations with that woman

[Anonymous No.4109625]

>>4109615

That's retarded. Unless sewing them back up brings them back to life and gives them a hedonistic personality, then wtf are you even trying to say?

Retarded pedophiles are retarded

[Anonymous No.4109626]

>>4109610
>>4109611
You would never call someone a pedo outside of this site, and you know it. Your anonymity is power tripping you into writing things that would be dangerous and would held consequences in a day to day setting.
>>4109619
This guy gets it

[Anonymous No.4109629]

>>4109626

What, you kidding? Try reading your loli shit in public, in full view. Read it in front of a school, I fucking dare you. Try it and watch everyone call you a pedophile to your stupid pedo face.

[Anonymous No.4109632]

>>4109619
Yeah so should you change your beliefs out of fear for the mob? I'm not saying go on social media under your real name and defend pedophilia, but don't be like this faggot >>4109626 and let words have power over you.

[Anonymous No.4109637]

>>4109629
>reading pornography in public
>reading anything in front of a school
ok, you're retarded

[Anonymous No.4109638]

>>4109637

Fine, go to a red light district, an adult expo, or a porn shop, then try it.

Pedophile

[Anonymous No.4109639]

>>4109629
Its not things you read in public to begin with, and you’re still wrongly accusing me of liking lolicon material
>>4109632
Words is what we socialize and build societies with. Your “its just words” is nonsensical.

[Anonymous No.4109640]

>>4109638
why would i even go tho those shit places, mongoloid? and yes, i am a pedophile. that's not even an insult

[Anonymous No.4109642]

Guys I am having an erection right now that will not go away, does that indirectly make me libel for rape? Send help.

[Anonymous No.4109643]

Stigmatization of pedophilia is an extremely recent development in the human race and being attracted to little girls is natural.
Furthermore, if you are a lolicon, stop saying you aren't a pedo, because you are. What I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with that. I don't condone fucking kids, but I don't condemn attraction to them.

[Anonymous No.4109645]

>>4109640

Proof of concept illiterate. Someone crying about being bullied on the internet for being a pedophile and turning around and saying people "wouldn't say it to his face". Shit's retarded yo.

[Anonymous No.4109647]

>>4109639
You let your fear of not conforming interfere with your beliefs, you are a coward.

[Anonymous No.4109650]

>>4109645
who's crying? i just called you a retard, and you are. go ahead, call me a pedo or scream kys like a little bitch

[Anonymous No.4109652]

>>4109647
You lack the intelligence of understanding that getting accused of pedophelia has fucking legal consequences and its not just words

[Anonymous No.4109654]

>>4109652
I know you're new here, but this isn't Facebook. Yeah mob rule results in horrible things, which is why you should condemn it instead of trying to suck up to them.

[Anonymous No.4109658]

>>4109604
Okay I didn't follow it enough to know you were also the "why did you draw a murder" post. I did read, but you're right that me saying "black and white" was erroneous.
I'll try to make myself clearer.
>Same deal with "people shooting each other". Draw it? You might have some idealizations going on. Pay for it? Same deal.
This is the part where I think it's apples and oranges to compare to pedos. Why is someone drawing violence? It could be a variety of reasons, I disagree that it needs to be some deep message about society to be valid. Again, humans are violent. We are actually less violent than our ancestors overall (selective pressure to shun violence once larger societies formed), but it's still in us. Boys will draw stupid violence like T-Rexes eating another blood-stained dinosaur. I don't think they should be considered to have some made up pyschological ailment. Men might want to draw the gratuitous violence of two warring armies for no real reason other than they're fascinated by it.
Again, I don't see how it translates into actually having some real psychological ailment or actually being demented.

I have less tolerance for drawing children in sexual manners because, like zoophilia/furries, I see it as an aberration of what normal people like (i.e. desires for an actual viable mate).

[Anonymous No.4109659]

>>4109650

And here we see a pedophile giving up after being outed in so many ways, bullied and shamed into running away.

Closeted pedophiles are the absolute worst. Complete hypocritical scum that can't stand to be around those that they would otherwise enjoy being around

[Anonymous No.4109662]

>>4109652
the whole point of an annonymous board is being able to call things by their name. i'll never say in person 90% stuff i post here, but doesn't makes it less honest

[Anonymous No.4109668]

>>4109659
being anti pedo is the most dishonest, cringey, mainstream bullshit there is. let that nonsense for facebook

[Anonymous No.4109669]

>>4109659
giving what, mong? i just saw your retarded post about aberrant behavior in public to prove an even more retarded point and decided to call you a retard

[Anonymous No.4109672]

>>4109668
heh. Here's your (you)

>>4109669
Saying "you wouldn't call me a pedo to my face" is as retarded as reading child porn in front of a school. K, fine, bad example, sure, but a better one would be to bring up the fact that you read that shit in front of your friends (HAH!).

"So what kind of girls are you into anon"
"... let me tell you about this thing called lolis"
Imagine her not calling you a pedo

[Anonymous No.4109675]

>>4109625
If you were a pitcher you would miss any ball by a mile. My point is just because people are enjoying something on a fictional basis that does not mean that it's true for the real thing. Otherwise we would have to ban each and every shooter or horror game and movie there is. By your logic people would go out and do horrible things because fiction = reality.

[Anonymous No.4109676]

>>4109672
i don't get your point. something natural becomes bad just because it's a taboo in our retarded zeitgeist?

[Anonymous No.4109681]

>>4109676
Welcome to the world of moralfags and useful idiots.

[Anonymous No.4109685]

What is it with you Amerifags and not being able to comprehend that drawings aren't real people?

[Anonymous No.4109686]

>>4109675

It's about WHY you like what you like. If you like a certain flavor of monster girls, that in and of itself doesn't mean much. If you like their ravenous disposition, you may have an M thing going on. If you like the lolis with tails, that's not a monster girl, you just got bored with regular lolis

>>4109676
Well as long as you've come to terms with being a pedophile, then hey, whatever. Don't go diddlin' kiddies now, you degenerate scumbag

[Anonymous No.4109688]

>>4109676
Natural
Not that faggot but being attracted to kids is not natural as they cannot conceive a child. Naturally a female in her adolescent puberty that is able to conceive is natural but her body would be fucked (literally) as her pelvis is still not fully developed and other physical attributes to bearing a child are not 100%. She may even die during labor due to the whole ordeal of giving birth.

[Anonymous No.4109692]

>>4109686
I am at the point where I think that you're the real deal and are just trying to project. Good people don't have to virtue signal.

[Anonymous No.4109698]

>>4109692

Did you just "lol no u" being a pedophile? What the fuck is even going on? Being a pedophile is the most reviled of all personality traits in most if not all societies on earth. It's not "virtue signaling" to say "you like kids? You're a pedophile".

And good people wake delusional or those in denial up. You can't admit it, even on an anonymous board. You're pathetic.

[Anonymous No.4109701]

>>4109672
>"So what kind of girls are you into anon"
>"... let me tell you about this thing called lolis"
>Imagine her not calling you a pedo
pfft, most of my friends also read lolicon. one of them even had those japanese child model videos on his computer(good old times). and yeah, i doubt you'd say that to my face. and no, not letting some faggot bitch about me without proof isn't the same as reading cp in front of a school. see? you're a retard

[Anonymous No.4109703]

>>4109698
>reviled in most societies on earth.
lol, no. don't mix victorian morals with the whole human nature and history

[Anonymous No.4109705]

>more than half of the posts has nothing to do with drawing
you people need to go to twitter. OP from what I see and do, loli has a body with the size of 2 and a 1/4 head. The most important part is the body size and the size of their head.

[Anonymous No.4109706]

>>4109701

Wow, degenerate larper pretending to have fellow pedophile friends. Even if true, if you admitted that shit in front of me, in real life, do you genuinely believe I'd just go "oh. Neat."

Wanna know how I know you're not a well adjusted member of society? Because I have too much free time right now, that's why.

>>4109703
explain

[Anonymous No.4109707]

What do African, Middle Eastern and Asian countries think about this?

[Anonymous No.4109712]

>>4109706
>hey stranger faggot, i like lolicon, wanna be friends?
lol, retard

[Anonymous No.4109713]

>>4109707
China cracks down hard. Japan hates it (they're ashamed that a loli billboard was up during the olympics when it was over there), but they tolerate it because they don't want to stifle their creative industry. Normal citizens of japan HATE it though, they can't stand the rest of the world thinking they're all pedophiles. Don't know about rest of asia

[Anonymous No.4109714]

Jesus Christ guys just let man learn to draw lolis. Whatever he does outside of that is irrelevant. Who fucking cares if he diddles kids.
He came here to learn, not be roasted at the witch trials.

[Anonymous No.4109716]

>>4109698
>It's not "virtue signaling" to say "you like kids? You're a pedophile".
Sure, thats the literal definition. But going on about how evil and horrible they are is virtue signaling. And you shouldnt take your moral compass from what is accepted by the majority, the majority are mostly retarded.

[Anonymous No.4109718]

>>4109714

Well then he fucked up by asking for degenerate shit and not expecting a shitstorm.

[Anonymous No.4109719]

>>4109705
actually it's 1 and a half head, I wrote wrong

[Anonymous No.4109723]

>>4109718
what shitstom? some faggots bumping his thread? wooow, poor dude

[Anonymous No.4109726]

>>4109718
nymphets are one of the most common subjects for male artist through human history. why should it be frowned upon in this board? why should it be frowned upon by society at large?
maybe the retard posting moralistic crap is the one that should realize this is not the place for that

[Anonymous No.4109727]

>>4109716

Such a tacit admission of being a pedophile. It can even be considered adorable.

>>4109723
lol k

[Anonymous No.4109731]

How lewd is too lewd for loli?
Stuff like popsicles and playing in the water seems fine, but actual sex seems like a bad fit.

[Anonymous No.4109734]

>>4109731
why not both?

[Anonymous No.4109735]

>>4109727
>-i think witch hunting is retarded
>-she's a witch!!
anyways, 95% men are pedos

[Anonymous No.4109736]

>>4109734
Having sex while they are still eating a popsicle seems rude.

[Anonymous No.4109738]

>>4109735
hey, you're being unfair. wanting to lick little girls doesn't make me a pedo

[Anonymous No.4109741]

>>4109719
nope 14 year old face caved in

[Anonymous No.4109745]

>>4109731
i always find penetration in bad taste. and call me homophobic, but i don't want penises in my porn
solo softcore is the only aesthetic kind of erotic art

[Anonymous No.4109746]

>>4109735

Finally, a full blown admission of being a pedophile, and claiming to be wildly persecuted despite being the majority, all in the same breath. I love you 4chan, never change

[Anonymous No.4109752]

>>4109746
only a psychologist with proper equipment could diagnose you as a pedo, not yourself or some retard on an annonymous board
i'm not denying anything: young cute girls are hot, and i know for a fact that every straight male thinks so, no matter what pruddish msm says

[Anonymous No.4109757]

>>4109752

Stahp! I can only get so smug!

[Anonymous No.4109758]

>>4109752
>no matter what pruddish msm says
You mean seething Roastie, the Roastie cannot tolerate competition especially when it comes to youth. Cunny is like Kryptonite to the Roastie and watch as the Roastie seethes and queefs at you with everything in the book.

[Anonymous No.4109763]

>>4109758
this desu its either girls past their prime or guys that want clout with said girls

[Anonymous No.4109773]

Whoever makes a stupid thread about how to draw my fetish should get kicked in the nuts 30 times then get a loomis book shoved up their ass and all the other stupid people still replying to this too

[Anonymous No.4109774]

>>4109741
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.4109778]

>>4109773
stop fantasizing about anon's nuts and loomis, you sicko

[Anonymous No.4109816]

>>4108957
op here
the first and last links are ideal on what i was after

>>4109499
my internet provider won't let get this link wtf

[Anonymous No.4109851]

>>4109816
This is a quality thread anon 10/10 best thread on /ic/ I thought the last lolicon thread was better, no you made this one better with such replies and autistic shitposting that I can only expect from /ic/

[Anonymous No.4109867]

>>4109851
op here
I have been lurking for most of the thread, I only did a few replies at the start but the derailing of the thread was not me.

[Anonymous No.4109868]

is there a pdf for vol2 of this?

[Anonymous No.4109981]

>>4109675
>enjoying something on a fictional basis that does not mean that it's true for the real thing
The reverse is true though, and the reason why it can be true at all is because lolicon is meant to be a fictional depiction of pedophilia. That's the point if it. If you removed the pedophilic aspect of lolicon (the resemblance to children) then it would stop being appealing or meaningful the way it is.

Writing or reading about people killing each other doesnt make you a violent, nobody in this thread suggested that, but it does mean that what you just did is make a depiction of violence, or read a depiction of violence. You strung together a specific sequence of words that readers will understand is intended to be a fictional depiction of violence. How do I know that? Because truly violent and dangerous people will find the depiction entertaining.

Please understand that this is a good thing, you WANT this to be true. If it isn't, then the concept of "safe fictional outlets" is baseless.

[Anonymous No.4110438]

>>4109643
>female attractiveness peaks at 14 and takes a dive at 18
That's just brutal. Expected, but brutal.

[Anonymous No.4110446]

>>4109643

>14

Just right

[Anonymous No.4110449]

>>4109643
this doesn't really prove anything though.
as much as I think attraction to all ages is natural, this could be explained by any number of variables-- the conclusions you draw about natural or unnatural attraction are a long leap compared to the evidence.
the evidence is that a good portion of men in today's society are attracted to those ages. that's it.

[Anonymous No.4110533]

>>4109200
according to data, 125cm is an average for 7-8yo females. A 10yo should be around 135-140cm.
By comparison, the average adult female is 162cm, so only about a head taller.

[Anonymous No.4110562]

>>4109200
The Complete Guide to Anatomy for Artists & Illustrators by Gottfried Bammes

[Anonymous No.4110722]

>>4110562
Neat, thanks. I wonder why the original language version costs half again as much as the english one though.
>>4110533
Kinda weird how girls are almost fully grown at around 14. I don't really remember when I stopped growing, but I think I still grew at least 10cm taller from when I was that age.

[Anonymous No.4110741]

>>4110722
according to biologists, women rapid growth, aka puberty, goes from 9 to 14, and growth stops completely at 17
meanwhile, men's puberty goes from 12 to 17, and they stop growing only until 25

[Anonymous No.4110746]

>>4109589
is this true or just urban legend?

[Anonymous No.4111806]

>>4108085
how is this even a question? if you're into little girls, drawing them is the most enjoyable thing to do
with so much practice, you can be shit at everything, except at cute little girls

[Anonymous No.4111808]

>>4108085

[Anonymous No.4113232]

>>4109201
The fact that these fetishes like loli and snuff are realistically achievable is what is the problem. People don't think right when it comes to their weewee and will eat shit or cut their limbs if it pleasures them. The more acceptable loli shit becomes, the more exposure it gets and attracts people. Pictures aren't enough of an alternative that it would stop these fuckers from raping a child if they had the chance. The reason most lolifags haven't done so is probably because they are strictly attracted to 2d anime-styled lolis and not 3d, so luckily we are safe for now. If they are attracted to any realistic photos then that's a major redflag.

[Anonymous No.4113244]

>>4113232
if someone is going to rape a child it's just due to mental illness not because loli exists anon. even not being able to tell the difference between fiction and reality is mental illness.

i'm a huge lolicon but I can swear on my life I would rather shoot myself in the head than harm a real child.

[Anonymous No.4113260]

>>4113232
>"luckily we are safe for now"
>meanwhile in the real world
two things i've learned from conservatives and liberals. 1, they don't give a shit about children. 2, they'll only pretend to care about children when they can get something from it

[Anonymous No.4113265]

>>4113260
japan actually has a lower child abuse and rape rate than America because lolicon exists and i'm sure it helps a lot of the actual pedos (not just the lolicons) surpress their fantasies

[Anonymous No.4113303]

>>4113260
imagine how much lower it would be if they were all jerking off in their basement to lolicon

[Anonymous No.4113310]

>>4113303
hmm, i see, so now you're joking about real abuse victims. also, the overwhelming majority of those cases aren't even sex related.

[Anonymous No.4113334]

>>4113265
uhuh. wasnt there a story recently about a manga artist caught going to brazil or somewhere just to molest?

[Anonymous No.4113344]

>>4113265

There's a lower rate for the same reason there's so much lolis over there: lower prosecution rates. They literally don't care. In japan, it's considered the family's problem, not something for the judiciary. Fucked up, I know.
The same goes for domestic abuse

[Anonymous No.4113346]

>>4113334
what a sick fuck. i he was into hebe like normal people he could pick up 14 yo girls with their parent's blessing

[Anonymous No.4113352]

>>4113344
>implying child abuse isn't hugely underreported in america

[Anonymous No.4113376]

>>4113334
i'm going to need a source on that anon

[Anonymous No.4113377]

>>4113352
yeah and for the same reason; if children were able to choose their caregivers or if people lived in open communities, they wouldn't be abused as often.

[Anonymous No.4113405]

>>4113377

lol wtf? no

[Anonymous No.4113406]

>>4113405
brainlet

[Anonymous No.4113417]

>>4113377

Citations yo

>>4113406
pedophile retard in denial

[Anonymous No.4113419]

>>4113417
go to insult for abusers; apparently raping children is the same as allowing them to determine their own lives.
if children could escape abusers, that'd obviously be better than this system of ownership based on heritage. keep making excuses for the world around you normie.

[Anonymous No.4113429]

>>4113419

Giving even more access to kids to strangers in a community gives more opportunity for those that want to abuse to infiltrate the community. Kids don't know any better and assume a lot of things are normal because they don't have a frame of reference.

If kids could determine their own lives, they'd opt for being dinosaurs. Or ninjas.

Have you ever even been around a child before, or do you just fantasize about being in a commune so you have easy access to reference material for your hardcore loli guro shit? You pedophilic degenerates make me sick

[Anonymous No.4113432]

>>4113429
do you even think before you type?

[Anonymous No.4113438]

>>4113429
>thinks lolicon artists collect reference of real life children instead of just google images

[Anonymous No.4113440]

>>4113432

Wow, I see you've put a lot of thought into that essay. You sure showed me XD XD

>>4113438
Fucking pedophiles, man

[Anonymous No.4113446]

>>4113438
They get other people to do it for them. Jr idols are a very quick and easy way to amass hi-res image and video collections of little japanese girls in swimsuits, for reference purposes of course. The industry is kinda dying but it was great while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.4113447]

>>4113440
it's interesting to see how normies work. apparently pedophilia functions in society in order to prevent change to children's lives in any capacity-- if you propose a lack of streaming or a less strict curriculum in schools, I'm sure in some way pedophilia will be used in dialogue to prevent it from happening.
I don't think it happens purposely, I just think people are that retarded. they're really just that retarded.

[Anonymous No.4113448]

>>4113440
explain why would a lolicon artist need to get real life reference of children to draw this?

[Anonymous No.4113450]

>>4113447
wat

>>4113448
no

[Anonymous No.4113452]

>>4113450
you need to be 18 to use this site

[Anonymous No.4113454]

>>4113446
you can see that female babies nipples wtf

[Anonymous No.4113461]

>>4113452

you need to go back

[Anonymous No.4113462]

>>4113461
/ic/ has always been a board for the lolicon

[Anonymous No.4113469]

>>4113461
>>4113454
>>4113450
you need to be 18 to use this site

[Anonymous No.4113477]

>>4108085
frequent your local kindergartens and playgrounds especially around lunch time. make sure to never shave, a beard will make you look like santa claus or jesus and put everyone around you at ease. oh and find yourself a nice long coat to keep all your art supplies handy.

[Anonymous No.4113527]

>>4113377
>if children were able to choose their caregivers

That's pretty much the worst thing that could happen though. Most children would go for the lenient caregiver who doesn't give a shit, let them skip school and feed them pizza every day. That's not how you raise them into proper adults, parents aren't supposed to be their kid's friends.

[Anonymous No.4113534]

>>4113527
meme argument.
implying you take care of yourself and this isn't a product of the capitalist system and authoritarianism rather than lenient parents.

[Anonymous No.4113540]

>>4113534

>education bad
>negligence good

[Anonymous No.4113545]

>>4113534
if you think parenting is a meme, I genuinely hope you never reproduce...

[Anonymous No.4113561]

>>4113545
>>4113540
>using connotations of words instead of arguments
based

[Anonymous No.4113640]

>>4108085
finding references is pretty easy. Especially dancer models with tight clothing are good for anatomy. The rest is improvising.
As a side note, you don't have to worry about it too much. Many loli artists aren't drawing realistically at all

[Anonymous No.4113653]

Go to your local playground and take pictures of the children.

[Anonymous No.4113696]

>>4113310
what?

>Sure, more kids will get raped if we ban lolicon but who cares?

[Anonymous No.4113748]

>>4108158
if you need references for something this straight forward, then you simply aren't a good enough artist yet. grind the basics until you are a good enough artist.
also, don't draw pedo shit if you want to make it.

[Anonymous No.4113783]

>>4113748
>STOP DRAWING THIS, IT'S LITERALLY PEDOPHILIA MODS MODS MODS!!!

[Anonymous No.4113790]

>>4113783
not him but you're retarded

[Anonymous No.4113794]

>>4113790
not the other him, but you're more retarded

[Anonymous No.4113833]

>>4113794

Not any of these anons but you're the mostest retarded

[Anonymous No.4113852]

>>4113376
im probably getting the ruroni kenshin guy mixed up with something else i read, but heres a non-manga artist caught in cambodia https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/japanese-man-guilty-buying-underage-sex

[Anonymous No.4114343]

>>4113640
this, obv
anyone interested (like me) already have more than enough material availabe to learn by himself
of course, a few artbooks or manuals on the subject wouldn't hurt, but this thread seems to indicate there's no such thing

[Anonymous No.4114354]

>>4113376
i'm probably mixing up things, but here's one story that happened in brazil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident

[Anonymous No.4114368]

>>4109331
Lolicons are pedos/hebes obviously, but they aren't hurting anyone by looking at hyperidealized drawings.
Looking at porn of actual kids is when they should be locked up. At that point their intentions have been made clear, but they still haven't quite gotten to the point of harming a child directly.

[Anonymous No.4114378]

>>4114368
what if you fap to cute under 12 softcore gravure? does it make your psycophatic intentions clear?

[Anonymous No.4114382]

>>4114378
It's a bullshit argument. Weirdos watch gore videos all the time and they don't go out and murder people. The only reasoning for banning any image or video is because it hurts your feelings.

[Anonymous No.4114387]

>>4108085
you need to study from life. wait, no, don't do that

[Anonymous No.4114395]

>>4108093
Yes basically

[Anonymous No.4114411]

>>4114382
>The only reasoning for banning any image or video is because it hurts your feelings.
Pretty much this, I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing the guy down the street faps to kids knowing there are other kids playing on the same street regardless if he actually hurt anyone or not.

[Anonymous No.4114566]

>>4114411
If you watch videos of people being illegally violated that were produced for entertainment purposes you are an accessory to the violator, and should be treated as such.

Honestly though, I'm not too big on the idea of the federal government handling everything. I think if you get caught watching kiddie porn, the information should be publicized, and if your neighbors want to get together, and lynch you, so be it.

[Anonymous No.4114567]

>>4114566
>>4114382

[Anonymous No.4114642]

>>4114566
What if they're not produced for entertainment purposes?

[Anonymous No.4114691]

>>4114642
in this case you're ok

[Anonymous No.4114735]

>>4114642
If you watching the video could in no way be interpreted as encouragement to the creator to repeat the offenses, you're good.

[Anonymous No.4114740]

>>4114735
you do understand we live in a time where giving the ok sign can be interpreted as encouragement to commit genocide, right? "someone could interpret it as such" is an abysmal argument.

[Anonymous No.4114741]

>>4114735
So for example, if it's just traffic cam recording of a brutal accident, you aren't encouraging anything because it's just random video footage, not some psycho doing evil things for attention. If you watch a livestream of person beating someone up, your attention is encouraging him to do more of that.

Maybe the federal government getting involved just for people watching videos is taking things too far, but at the very least you would be ethically responsible in this scenario.

[Anonymous No.4114743]

>>4114740
>>4114741
I figured I didn't explain that well enough, so heres an eample of what I mean.

[Anonymous No.4114765]

>>4114741
one is obviously (ethically) complicit in a crime if they encouraged it to occur to begin with, ie watching a livestream of it without informing the police, making the view counter go up, paying someone to produce the livestream. but if you're just anonymously downloading and viewing a video of a crime that has already transpired years ago then you're already far enough removed from the crime to ethically not be complicit in it, regardless if you enjoyed its content or not. There's just no way your "contribution" in attention can register. Unless you explicitly posted "moar" in order to get more content.

[Anonymous No.4114873]

99.9% CP is girls voluntarly and by own initiative doing lewd shit on camera
What kind of retard would compare that to fucking gore? Get some help you fucking psychos

[Anonymous No.4114884]

>>4114873
based

[Anonymous No.4114940]

>>4114873
but people below 18 lack free will! Everybody knows that.

[Anonymous No.4115023]

>>4114873
>>4114940
It kind of depends on what age you're talking about since 0-18 is a rather broad age range, but since you say "99.9%" you must be referring to literally any age. You're a fool if you believe prepubescent children are having sex with adults for internet videos by their own volition with no grooming and manipulation.

The types who do this stuff target mentally weak children who will do anything they're told. It's not like little kids are dreaming up the idea to start pornography buisiness with some disgusting old man. They get coerced into it, and don't know the right way to deal with the situation.

Deep down I bet you know that you're an evil cunt, and that every argument you come up with is just a cope for you to engage in a power fantasy based on the manipulation of children.

[Anonymous No.4115026]

>>4114873
>>4114940

>Those kids in cults should have known better than to drink the kool-aid. They got what they deserved for being so stupid. Fucking kids.

[Anonymous No.4115098]

>>4115023
t. dunning krueger

[Anonymous No.4115117]

>>4108085
do some excercises first

[Anonymous No.4115166]

>>4115098
You made a three word post.
The third word was misspelled.
The first word was misused to the extent that the whole post makes no sense.
This post was your attempt to call another person stupid.

Consider suicide.