So what's the consensus on this book?

[Anonymous No.4080768]

https://mega.nz/#!iE4zSA4Y!PtvCc7uKkidGSnBI3pDJL-EzvVveOlPr3KKMUd3EUpU

Honestly I think it is a bit too flat in how it portrays the forms (the bicep is a box or a pyramid?)
It is consistent and clear in it's methods, I will give it that over Loomis.
Would it work better if you applied it's methods to cartoon characters rather than copying off the book?

As for the artist's tutorials on their instagram, I think he goes too quick into final lineart (because I'm a constructionfag)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1MursHomOg/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzLVtRvIvdq/

[Anonymous No.4080776]

>>4080768
Just read Loomis, Hampton, Anatomy for Sculptors

[Anonymous No.4080777]

Don't really give enough of a fuck to look at the book but going off your image and the insta posts this just looks like a rehash #87 of Hampton.

[Anonymous No.4080778]

>>4080777
is it a good rehash?

[Anonymous No.4080779]

>>4080778
No

[Anonymous No.4080780]

>>4080778
No, not particularly. Honestly you can just look at Hampton and Bridgman and you're set for simplified masses for anatomy. Everything else is going to come from your own studies, books are purely supplementary.

[Anonymous No.4080798]

The stylization is very unappealing and some parts are oversimplified to the point that they're unuseful and flat-out wrong.

Look at Morpho Simplified instead if you want a book on a similar topic.

[Anonymous No.4080799]

>>4080798

[Anonymous No.4080815]

>>4080768
shit book made for children

perfect for /ic/

[Anonymous No.4080816]

This is like Hogarth 2.0. The muscle shapes just aren't there. It's too stylized. If you want to draw like Mitch Lee than this is the perfect book, otherwise no.

But its free here, so get it anyway.

[Anonymous No.4080818]

>>4080816
What do you mean when you say "The muscle shapes just aren't there?"
Do you mean there's something missing in the form, or are the muscles shown alien to actual anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4080860]

>>4080768
you already have 353k followers on instagram mitch, what the are you still doing giving free tutorials on /ic/ what the fuck?

This is next level shilling my dude.

[grug No.4081084]

>>4080768
Book bad
Me no know how to read

[Anonymous No.4081110]

>>4080768
Imagine a future in which all Loomis tutorials have been replaced with those "how I shade (multiply with purple)" ones.

[Anonymous No.4081167]

>>4081110
this should be labeled dead and alive

[Anonymous No.4081170]

>>4080768
>>4081110
Mitch seems like a cool guy, but his book seems kinda shallow on this subject and catered towards cartonnists only
If you want to learn how to make cartoon characters I would say go for it, otherwise you have access to way better resources such as this >>4080798 and general known stuff such as loomis, vilppu, hampton, huston etc

[Anonymous No.4081250]

>>4081110
Left soulless
Right soul.

[Anonymous No.4081271]

>>4081170
I'm using both this >>4080768
and >>4080799 so i can doodle characters for fun half the time while I do serious studies for the other.

[Anonymous No.4081273]

>>4080798
>Morpho Simplified

link to pdf please?

[Anonymous No.4081523]

>>4080768
Looks fine to me.

[Anonymous No.4081553]

>>4081273

seconded

[Anonymous No.4081567]

>>4080776
Ok, but which books?

[Anonymous No.4081585]

>>4081273
>>4081553
https://www61.zippyshare.com/v/YpQ0un0O/file.html
(Is this book any good?)

[Anonymous No.4081854]

>>4081567
Fun with a Pencil
Figure Drawing for all It's Worth
Figure Drawing: Design and Invention
Anatomy for Sculptors

[Anonymous No.4082350]

>>4080768
if it helps its good.

[Anonymous No.4082354]

>>4081585
Yeah, he's like a more legible Bridgman. Put them together for ultimate structural tag team.

[Anonymous No.4082365]

>>4080798
I have this book and though it doesn't hold your hand AT ALL, the cut to the chase approach and direct and simple exemples greatly helped me.

[Anonymous No.4082453]

>>4082350
unfortunately I don't have any device that tells me if a book helps or hurts
all I have is you people

[Anonymous No.4082475]

>>4080818
the muscle shapes aren't good. They aren't practical for drawing realistically. There will be a lot of required followup work if you learn from this.

[Anonymous No.4082554]

>>4082453
The device is to apply the book and draw.
If you got better the book helped, if you didn’t the book didn’t or you didn’t do it correctly.

[Anonymous No.4082575]

>>4080798
How do you use this book?
Draw all the examples?
Trace over it?

[Anonymous No.4082589]

>>4082453
The secret is that no book "hurts". You should read everything. Superior information will illuminate and supplant the weaknesses of the inferior information because it's closer to the truth and therefore stronger

[Anonymous No.4082636]

>>4082554
>>4082589
>"is this book helpful?"
>"lol i dunno try it our for yourself bro, if you were helped then i guess it's helpful lmao"
t-thanks guys

[Anonymous No.4082663]

>>4080799
>Unique approach to learning to draw the human body.
>Proceeds to copy + paste Michael Hampton

[Anonymous No.4082666]

>>4080768
just draw

[Anonymous No.4082871]

>>4080768
It's not bad if you've already studied anatomy and only want something to help you memorize all the stuff and put it in perspective.

But don't start out with this as your sole resource for this, you'll be absolutely fucked. There's no insertions, no volume, no force, no gesture.. it's just flat shapes of nothing.

[Anonymous No.4083138]

>>4080768
This guy is nothing but an advanced /beg/ and his art style is fucking hideous. The book is way too stylized and oversimplified to be of any real help, even if you just want to be a cartoonist rather than an illustrator (which is the mindset this book is catering to), you'd just be gimping yourself by not doing proper anatomy studies. I'm assuming you can at least depict form and gesture at a basic level, because if you can't, anatomy isn't something you should be studying in the first place. Anyway, this might be an actually alright book for some very small children.

[Anonymous No.4083141]

>>4080768
>boring plastic drawing style
Unless you want to draw Toy Story characters, this seems like a big meme.

[Anonymous No.4083237]

>>4082453
honestly the only way to know is putting in the time yourself. I always heard the the Faragasso book on the Reilly method sucked but I tried it out myself and it was a god send for me. That's the thing with pedagogy what works for one may not work for another. Not to say that the general opinion of a large mass isn't valid but it may not always be valid for you.

[Anonymous No.4083676]

>>4080799
OMG!! pls I need a pdf, pls PLS

[Anonymous No.4083677]

>>4080768
His finished art gives me a creepy uncanny valley vibes, it's like a shitty alien artist tries to imitate disney style to impress the humans and fails

[Anonymous No.4083680]

>black good
>white bad

[Anonymous No.4083682]

>>4083676
it's in the thread

[Anonymous No.4083699]

>>4080768
I'm not criticizing this book specifically, but lately it seems there has been a bunch of new drawing books and videos from artists known and unknown, that synthesize old knowledge but not in a particularly interesting way. These are the same general approaches in different mixtures, regurgitated from the same old books we all have, and much of it taught by people on /ic/ a decade ago who did it better and for free. There's nothing revolutionary in these books, and they seem to be judged solely on how pretty the pictures are rather than the new information or individual discoveries they contain.

I don't need more books like this. I want specialists with specialized information. I want teachers with a unique sense of style and workflow to teach style and workflow. I want practical advice from working people. I want books that are simultaneously educational and provide an insight into the artist behind it.

I don't want people like Proko to teach stuff he doesn't necessarily do in his own work just because he feels an obligation to parrot it, I want him to teach how he paints. I don't need a book like OP which is from someone who doesn't have a style that's fresh and groundbreaking. This is all new wrappers on old knowledge, and all this does is bloat hard drives with stuff most people won't even get around to reading.

[Anonymous No.4083738]

>>4083682
i saw it, i'm fully in debt with that anon

[Anonymous No.4083764]

>>4083680
supernig

[Anonymous No.4083800]

this dude doesn't even draw semi-realistic characters, yet you want to learn anatomy from him? /ic/ is fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.4085707]

>>4080798
best option imo from high beg tointermidiate upwards

[Anonymous No.4086386]

>>4082589
>The secret is that no book "hurts".

Eeeeehhhh.

I've seen a few art books that seem more harmful than helpful.

I once had a watercolor book that basically told you to paint from the tube because mixing colors made them dull and brown.

Meanwhile James Gurney says better for a painting to be too dull than too colorful.

[Anonymous No.4086391]

>>4083680

Oh geez what is this entry level color design?!

[Anonymous No.4086475]

>>4082575
You read and understand how the forms should be and you draw on your side by either copying (not tracing) or following the examples he gives throughout the book by yourself

[Anonymous No.4086617]

>>4083680
>literally just primary vs secondary colors set
holy fuck how lazy can you get

[Anonymous No.4086885]

>>4081110
>upside-down stache
fucking calarts

[Anonymous No.4090089]

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