/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4061628]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it


previous >>4058413
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.4061690]

Reposting from old thread
Hi /beg/ I'm a beginner when it comes to digital and I have absolutely no idea how to color anything. I'm using sai by the way but have Photoshop too (If thats easier?) I tried coloring one of the arms on this character, but it was so tedious, and it doesnt even look good with this style. Do you guys know any tutorials for coloring on either software that would suit the drawing I'm doing. I know you guys are suited more to anatomy, but I hope you can help!

Also any criticisms on the drawing would be nice

[Anonymous No.4061698]

>>4061690
color theory book and yiff in hell

[Anonymous No.4061699]

i just wanted to post something im pretty new at drawing digital i hope if you can tell me what i can improve first i mean what are my weakest area. thanks

[Anonymous No.4061716]

Late night doodle
Decided to make something after 30+ days of not drawing
Was trying to come up with concepts for a girl to star in this short sexy comic I wanted to make but then remembered I suck shit at drawing so just kinda started doodling mid way though
I guess having to start working a real job put the fear of not having enough time back into me seriously fuck this wage slave shit

[Anonymous No.4061772]

repost from old thread
> Maybe I'm just burnt from all the shit I had to do today, causing me to not be able to focus, but damn I really messed this one up.

[Anonymous No.4061799]

I've been practicing my facial construction a little bit each day. I'm not really going for realistic, just trying to grasp the underlying anatomy and increase my consistency. So far I feel like I'm making progress. Getting the eye placement and size right in 3/4 view is probably what I'm worst at.

[Anonymous No.4061840]

>>4061799
I know loomis told u to use a circle but the skull is actually more of an egg

[Anonymous No.4061843]

>>4061699
The eyes are miss placed, I'd recommend drawing lines on the face to make sure it stays symmetrical also the lips and eyes are symbols

[Anonymous No.4061855]

>>4061699
thanks dude im working on it

[Anonymous No.4061882]

been training myself to draw bodys better by learning from morpho/hampton.

been having fun doing it and improved a little.

[Anonymous No.4061891]

is improving light sources hard if youre good at lay ins and have a solid understanding of value/lighting? like if i wanted to do a portrait but the ref has shit studio lighting?

[Anonymous No.4061902]

>>4061772
ill do a quick redline after i pass my fucking G1 driving test.

[Anonymous No.4061915]

>>4061678
This isn't reddit, tranny

[Anonymous No.4061918]

>>4061690
Yiff in hell.

[Anonymous No.4061948]

>>4061699
Her neck is 1 - 2 cm too small, weird left shoulder.
>>4061716
You dont suck shit, you just suck and thats an improvement and she has soul.

More Loomis bros, and practice with pics from magazines over and over again

[Anonymous No.4061955]

>>4061948
*Right
Anons any of you know what colours do i have to mix to achieve gold or bronze?

[Anonymous No.4061987]

>>4061690
Watch these videos

Understanding color video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1FK8n7WgY

10 minutes on color harmonies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhcNbFMkTw&t=359s

Other easy to digest vids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y38JkEeADj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Zsgv993Os

Those should explain the basics if you know how light works. If you do not, then watch the Foundations of Light and Shadow series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-LZVFZuGE&list=PLV2X3tgajVlHkH3FHxm3rLZWqScFTRhtv

Your welcome, now get to learning.

[Anonymous No.4062015]

drawabox then loomis

[Anonymous No.4062024]

>>4061840

[Anonymous No.4062039]

>>4061987
Thanks anon, I'll check them out now

>>4061918
>>4061698
Atleast wait for me to die first, geez

[Anonymous No.4062074]

>>4061799
Practice from life more. You need to learn to copy before you learn to construct. It will help you develop a more instinctual feel for placement and size.

Also, your person has no skull.

[Anonymous No.4062077]

>>4061772
Your angles and perspective are all wrong. We're looking at the model from below but you moved her face to be facing us. Then you kept alp the other proportions as on the model but now it looks all fucked.

[Anonymous No.4062080]

>>4061891
If you've practiced enough and you can understand the actual form behind what you're drawing and you know how light works you can do whatever the fuck you want with lighting and shadows.

[Anonymous No.4062096]

I tried a bit of study of Ken Sugimori s old art style?
Any thoughts or advice?

[Anonymous No.4062098]

>>4061948
I was trying to use Hitokaku method for majority of my drawings but then realized it'd probably be better to use the box torso/body sculpting thing for perspective and angles.
I always try to construct loomis heads though, otherwise I'm aimlessly drawing ovals.
Also, I need to start drawing at the top of the page holy fuck I barely got her shins and feet in there.

[Anonymous No.4062099]

>>4062098
ah fuck her torso is lopsided goddammit
whatever I gotta get ready for wage slaving

[Anonymous No.4062101]

>>4062096
Wow I love it! Do you think you could draw the modern pokemons in this style?

[Anonymous No.4062102]

>don't draw for three days
>do the contour lines drawabox exercise
>can't even draw the potato
Never take a break!

[Anonymous No.4062106]

>>4062098
WTF is this 5 heads madness?

[Anonymous No.4062119]

practicing western style art.

[Anonymous No.4062121]

>>4062119
Are you even /beg/ bro? That doesn't look /beg at all.

[Anonymous No.4062135]

>>4062121
non /begs/ post their art here to get an ego boost

[Anonymous No.4062142]

>>4062121
it's just taken at a shitty angle with filters, something all /beg/s should learn; this shit would look the same as the rest of the thread if it were photographed normally

[Anonymous No.4062145]

>>4062142

Stop being a crabby little nigger anonfaggot. His art is above /beg/ tier regardless of angle, don't be a jealous little nigglet.

[Anonymous No.4062150]

>>4062145
no need to project, anon-senpai

[Anonymous No.4062155]

>>4062150

You should google whatever you think "project" means.

[Anonymous No.4062157]

>>4062155
oh so you're not projecting, you're literally the guy i was talking about? good, learn to stop using angles and filters, anon, and all will be good

[Anonymous No.4062160]

[Anonymous No.4062161]

>>4062157

>oh someone else agreed with anon, you must be the anon I was talking about!

Oof. Such crabby hours. Ngmi-kun

[Anonymous No.4062165]

>>4062161
(you) know there's a way of proving me wrong.
>>4062160
there's some good energy in the lower one, you captured the feeling of the pose there. you're still thinking maybe a bit too much in terms of concrete shapes: the torso doesn't have to be a rectangle
but you're on some right track there at least

[Anonymous No.4062168]

>>4062165

Pyw and I'll think about it ngmi-chan.

[Anonymous No.4062177]

>>4062165
thank you..

[Anonymous No.4062195]

>>4062168
don't have much on me rn as i'm travelling, sorry anon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.4062206]

thoughts on these gestures?

[Anonymous No.4062208]

>>4062206
forgot this last one

[Anonymous No.4062220]

>>4062195
if you're not happy here's this that i'm doin rn fäm

[Anonymous No.4062232]

>>4062206
you got something good with 6, the others not as much. those jagged forms are clean, but stiff
go looser

[Anonymous No.4062278]

got sick for the weekend, gonna try actually completing a body for once

[Anonymous No.4062282]

>>4062278
i like the hand and hate the abs, anon

[Anonymous No.4062349]

>>4061628
Pls Crit me

[Anonymous No.4062358]

>>4062349
ay dios mio

[Anonymous No.4062371]

>>4062074
I’ve done some real life practices but I’m more interested in cartoons and animation so I’ve spent a lot of time looking at how artists draw and construct those faces. I mostly struggle with getting my eye height and distances correct, especially in 3/4 view due to the perspective. Would drawing larger help with that maybe? Most of my practice heads would fit in a 2” space.

Also, what do you mean by no skull? Are you talking about the backside of the head? I purposefully didn’t draw that part just in case I wanted to try drawing hair on it later.

[Anonymous No.4062380]

>>4062349
absolutely trash pls go read loomis and never post again without your fundies

YIKES¡¡¡

[Anonymous No.4062383]

>>4062380
Should you really be giving advices with those chicken scratches, anon?

[Anonymous No.4062384]

>>4062380
you mean

[Anonymous No.4062389]

>>4062383
not doing clean lines for free anon

[Anonymous No.4062390]

For the first I'm doing a "finished piece" because I all do is study and life drawing or something. Tried to put in practice everything I'm trying to learn thus far. Fucking suck at lineart, inking, whatever but I finally feel like color isn't a completely different language now ever since I started desu
Don't hesitate to rip me out, I'm obviously looking for critique senpaitachi

[Anonymous No.4062391]

>>4062390
Fucking forgot pic

[Anonymous No.4062393]

>>4062391
are you underage?

[Anonymous No.4062395]

>>4062393
Sad thing is I might be older than you.

[Anonymous No.4062396]

>>4062349
Also please don't use colored pencils like that.
Lightly apply it.

Have some patience with that shit.

[Anonymous No.4062397]

>>4062391
At least lineart is way cleaner than the chicken scratch fucker above who tried to redline.

[Anonymous No.4062402]

It's supposed to be a witch. How can I improve?

[Anonymous No.4062403]

>>4062397
I mean it's just a sketch versus what I tried to do cleanly yet still looking like a mess, that anon is leagues above me

[Anonymous No.4062408]

I think it's getting better and better

[Anonymous No.4062416]

>>4062358
>>4062380
Eh I’m at least trying man.
I tried reading Loomis but it came off too politically cartoony for me so I just started eyeballing drawings I liked
I still feel like it’s an improvement compared to this.

[Anonymous No.4062418]

>>4062396
I’ll remember that.
Thank you Anon

[Anonymous No.4062429]

>>4062397
>>4062383
come on anon go redline it and show that ngmi how is done, amirite my fellow gmi

[Anonymous No.4062435]

>>4062416
>>4062408
>>4062402
resize resize resize

[Anonymous No.4062437]

>>4062349
Anon
Holy fucking shit.
She’d better be awkwardly holding 2 babies otherwise those are some of the worse looking tits I’ve seen in a long time.
Have you ever seen a woman or know about this funny thing called gravity
Boobs need to sag those look like a bolted on soccer ball and football under a shirt

At least you tried to add shadows so I’ll give you that.

[Anonymous No.4062438]

>>4062437
you're not funny

[Anonymous No.4062445]

>>4062438
he's not trying to be funny, he's telling the truth

[Anonymous No.4062446]

>>4062438
that was actually funny

[Anonymous No.4062454]

>>4062438
he's geing cruel but honest, as idiotic as he is and incapable of delivering a good message
grow a thicker skin, idiots abound

[Anonymous No.4062463]

Self portrait.

I know I fucked my left eye (our right).

What else jumps out at you, immediately?

[Anonymous No.4062466]

>>4062463
it immediately jumps out that you should not post this on /beg/

[Anonymous No.4062467]

>>4062435
Better?
>>4062437
>When you’re getting roasted the fuck out of but it’s actually pretty funny
>>4062438
Lighten up I can take a joke

[Anonymous No.4062468]

>>4061772
Have you considered trying to learn some anatomy before tackling objectively one of the hardest possible things to draw which is the human face in 3/4?
Anatomy for artists, you can download that

[Anonymous No.4062473]

>>4061882
That woman looks like a man bruh

[Anonymous No.4062475]

>>4062463
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES GUILLOTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE YUH

[Anonymous No.4062476]

>>4062463
humblebragger nigger

[Anonymous No.4062481]

>>4062467
these tits look like tests

[Anonymous No.4062484]

>>4062467
much

i think i remember you from another /beg/ thread
the hair is too puffy to be wet, right now it looks like she has jewels hanging out of it and not water
look at how short haired women really look like when their hair is wet

[Anonymous No.4062493]

>>4062481
I don’t wether to say Thank you or Fuck you.

Because now I feel the drive to re draw this it but better however, I can’t stop seeing it now and it makes me hate this drawing I was originally pretty proud of

[Anonymous No.4062494]

>>4062168
thought so

[Anonymous No.4062543]

>>4062466
>>4062476
You cannot be serious. Oh wait, you are since this is /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4062547]

>>4062475
He's not black is he?

[Anonymous No.4062554]

>>4062547
I'm not.

[Anonymous No.4062565]

>>4062554
Oh good, cool beard man

[Anonymous No.4062566]

Tried to follow anon's advice.Here's a small warm up sketch

[Anonymous No.4062567]

Getting back into drawing a steady stream of garbage.

[Anonymous No.4062573]

lads what the fuck do ngmi and crab mean?

[Anonymous No.4062578]

>>4062567
too much loomis

[Anonymous No.4062582]

>>4062573
not gonna make it = ngmi
crabs are the type of person who come to this board to spread bad advice, troll and post/fall for bait while not drawing; crabs are also ngmi

yer welcome summerfag

[Anonymous No.4062587]

>>4062582
pic related: it's a crab when you ask it "pyw" / post your work

[Anonymous No.4062593]

>>4062567
is that a midget?

[Anonymous No.4062600]

>>4062573
ngmi stands for not going to make it, destined to fail. Crab mentality is when youre going to fail, so you want everyone else to fail too. like crabs in a bucket
Read the lore

[Anonymous No.4062610]

>>4062543
That's what I thought. Got any feedback for me?

[Anonymous No.4062612]

Is there a trick I can use when drawing faces where I take a copy of the full view eye and transform to get the angle view eye, or is it really just better to draw it from scratch in this case?

[Anonymous No.4062622]

>>4062612
nigga what

[Anonymous No.4062624]

>>4062612
full? angle?

>>4062610
i do: stop shitting on your lines so much and take a better photo
looks like you might have good structure but the values have gone to actual hell due to picture quality

[Anonymous No.4062637]

>>4062622
>>4062624
Like when you're drawing eyes on a face viewed from an angle and the far eye is squished a bit . Is it bad practice to just copy the near eye and transform it to be the far eye?

[Anonymous No.4062649]

>>4062600
>>4062582
okay thanks lads

[Anonymous No.4062652]

>>4062637
holy shit you are fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.4062654]

>>4062637
yes

[Anonymous No.4062655]

>>4062567
>Still chicken scracthing like crazy
>still forcing your stupid style above all else
>still making everything way too complicated
>Still can't grasp basic human proportions
Look. We can't help you if you don't want to listen. You have stop doing same thing, you have to stop putting so many hours on the same drawing that look like shit no matter the polish. Draw from life, you never posted a study from all this fucking time. You have to help us so we can help you. I can see that you are dedicated to your waifu, I just want you to improve so please make an effort. Even baby steps if needed.

[Anonymous No.4062656]

>>4062652
I'm not, but go on.

[Anonymous No.4062657]

>>4062637
just learn how to draw the other eye anon, there's literally no reason not to

[Anonymous No.4062661]

>>4062652
I second this

>>4062656
You are

[Anonymous No.4062666]

>>4062661
I'm just going to clarify that I'm not and that what I am asking is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask.

[Anonymous No.4062670]

>>4062666
it is not reasonable to ask if it's reasonable to copy an eye and just liquefy it into shape, it's very obviously bad practice, and the way you asked it was very unintelligible

[Anonymous No.4062673]

>>4062624
Thanks mate. My scanner is shit tier so I can't do much about that. Thanks for the tip on the lines. I scratched that shit straight into the fucking table.

[Anonymous No.4062676]

First time drawing wolves or goblins. Trying to draw draw and draw, as I am told to.
Hows my construction/anatomy? My line work sucks, but at least I'm not chicken scratching anymore

[Anonymous No.4062677]

>>4062673
take a photo if you need to, desu

if you need to go darker, you should use a darker pigment (like a 4b pencil or a charcoal stick) and not rape your paper lmao

i'd be glad to see more from you, i feel you're about one of the few gmi's in this shitshow today

[Anonymous No.4062678]

>>4062676
you should draw homestuck fanart

other than that they look like puppets, wtf is up with that wolf's head? that's literally the worst part of the entire painting
look at how furry artists do this kinda shit, trust me, they know how to make an animal appealing enough to make you want to fuck it

[Anonymous No.4062683]

>>4062656

[Anonymous No.4062688]

>>4062670
Copying and horizontally flipping one eye to get the other is common practice for head on views . You see artists do it all the time. So why is it unreasonable to ask if there's a cheap way of doing the same for angled views?
I could see how it might be bad practice, but so is use of a number of tools that some artists frequently rely on then.

[Anonymous No.4062690]

>>4062678
I, uh, kinda fucked up wolf anatomy, should have been smaller and more angular, with a touch more shape on muzzle and ears
Homestuck fan art? You gotta be fucking trolling

[Anonymous No.4062691]

>>4062690

[Anonymous No.4062692]

>>4062688
which artist though? like i've been watching a dozen of them and they all draw the other eye

[Anonymous No.4062693]

>didn't draw for ONE (1) week
>skill goes back to square one
holy fuck no!

[Anonymous No.4062695]

>>4062683
Just for the record, I'm not invested in it working. I'm just trying to figure things out.

[Anonymous No.4062696]

>>4062691
Cancer
>>4062678
Bad Advice

>>4062676
Nice Zach Hill looking Gob, they wouldnt be riding wolves, use references too because man, that doesnt look good.
You need to focus on construction rather than symbol drawing. Put him on a squig

[Anonymous No.4062698]

>>4062688
Because flipping only works and is """necessary""" for front views. There's no reason to flip in 3/4 view. The hassle you'd go through for doing that you might as well draw it because it doesn't need to, and shouldn't, be perfectly symmetrical. Like dude what do you think the rest of us are doing with pencil? Just redraw it like a man and get better.

[Anonymous No.4062699]

>>4062690
also fyi the dog's hind legs should be straighter as they bear the brunt of its weight

you need gesture here, not structure, otherwise the wolf is looking like it's gonna crap at any moment

[Anonymous No.4062700]

>>4062676
When drawing make sure you're just relaxed and having fun for the most part, be languid in your strokes, and it's good you're not scratching anymore.
Otherwise, I'd say it's a good start.
Though I'd recommend trying to do some very rough sketches of a real wolf, just get some rough idea down of a wolf, try it a bit realistic at first and or simplify the design until it's design is comfortably simple.

Also work on the head >>4062678 anon is right on the head part, and looking at furry artist to get this done isn't a bad start, just remember each has their own way of design, so it may look way different from what you want.
No shame in looking at guides

[Anonymous No.4062702]

>>4062700
Your example is shit, why do you even bother giving advice?

[Anonymous No.4062703]

it was really a stupid question is obviously never going to work, you dont have to be a genius or even a drawfag to realize that, theres facial structures that make the eyes shape change depending on the angle you can see this easily irl but when you are seeing a 2d pic is harder because you aren't used to see shapes and all you can see is a flat surface, thats why it will never work. just use construction

[Anonymous No.4062707]

>>4062676
Also I failed to mention use references, guide-lines, tutorials and etc, just don't be too dependent, they are guides, not carries

[Anonymous No.4062708]

>>4062696
So I'll try again, do a study of gobbo on squig and wolf. I understand my wolf needs work, probably more dynamic pose for both. And lots of construction and study.
Specifics plz?

[Anonymous No.4062709]

>>4062703
>>4062695
fuck

[Anonymous No.4062710]

>>4062702
>>4062702
Real constructive there you hooligan, how about you abandon your high-and-mighty post of unclear cursing and give some actual criticism you dolt

[Anonymous No.4062714]

>>4062702
Pyw, fäm

[Anonymous No.4062715]

>>4062703
I'm sorry. I'm having trouble reprogramming my brain to take in all these details after almost 30 years of not paying them any attention.
I don't think the way you do yet, and I still think it's a valid question to ask as a beginner.

[Anonymous No.4062733]

Here's an abandoned redraw of an old drawing that I never finished.I might pick it up again though

[Anonymous No.4062737]

>>4062708
Theres so many threads in /ic/ that will help you with construction. If you scroll to the top theres books for beginners or if you go into catalog, find the artbook thread, right at the top of there there is more resources.
Study human anatomy and you can apply that to any humanoid thing youre trying to draw. Wolves will need specific tutorials, although taking references from things is not cheating as long as no flat out copying is involved.
If I were you, just study anatomy and post results here as much as you like, we can give feedback as you go.
Squigs are easy, theyre circles with faces, reference a GW model

[Anonymous No.4062744]

>>4062700
>>4062676

i'm /beg/ I draw "furry" things >>4061690 for the love of god, dont do this, no offence anon.

[Anonymous No.4062747]

>>4062744
Point taken

[Anonymous No.4062751]

>>4062733
too much loomis
loomis sphere skulls are only a didactic tool, not something to aspire to

[Anonymous No.4062754]

This is the less stylized thing I've made in recent time.
I'm aware of my scratchy lines, so there's that.

[Anonymous No.4062769]

>>4062754
>2000x2000
Are you even trying

[Anonymous No.4062776]

>>4062754
Scratchy lines is a meme, doing scratchy lines is completely fine. If you dont want them then just go over your drawing again with clean strokes

[Anonymous No.4062803]

>>4062769
It was a 4k canvas, didn't consider necessary such high res. I can repost with a higher one if you want.
I'm not sure what else to reply.

>>4062776
I'll practice them eventually, but it's nice knowing they're not that much of a problem, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4062845]

>>4062803
the point is the total opposite: resize to 1k * 1k because it's a nuisance to open and view

i mean your lines are a bit shit, but not excessively
think more about how you scratch it, this feels a bit too chaotic

[Anonymous No.4062851]

[Anonymous No.4062856]

>>4062744
So nah on 'look at furry art'
Just gonna do studies tomorrow of wolves, and human construction/anatomy

[Anonymous No.4062861]

>>4062856
he might be a doof but proko's gesture vids are the best free gesture vids you'll find on this bitch of an earth

[Anonymous No.4062888]

>>4062751
If I shouldn't use the loomis hated method,how should I construct the head?

[Anonymous No.4062896]

>>4062888
he didn't say shouldnt but dont used as a crutch the skull isnt a perfect sphere to begin with it, just use it as a guide to keep the proportions on the right track

[Anonymous No.4062901]

Dont listen to this >>4062776
retard. There is a difference between loose lines and chicken scratch, which you are doing a bit.

[Anonymous No.4062913]

is this chicken s.?

[Anonymous No.4062917]

>>4062888

this: >>4062896

Loomis only *approximates* the human head with a sphere; take a look at pictures of actual real life humans to see that the sphere head is mostly just a convenient approximation

[Anonymous No.4062926]

>>4062913
No, the lines all make sense, it's just an uncleaned mess.

[Anonymous No.4062944]

>>4062845
Ah, I see, that makes more sense.
Thanks, I hadn't considered giving lines more thought, I'll do that next time.

[Anonymous No.4062973]

>>4062888
The head's shape is much closer to a tilted egg where the chin is the pointy end than to a sphere

[Anonymous No.4062975]

>>4062913
the only cock that needs to be there is mine

[Anonymous No.4063014]

>>4062655
The usual it seems. Sorry for going full NGMI mode in advance.

I can't believe I have become a "it's my style" fag but I've gotta stick to it. Simplifying shit or warping the character designs beyond recognition for the sake of looking more surface level appealing is not something I'd like to do.

If you mean the huge head with basic human, proportions, the character is a shorty. The less heads fit into the body the shorter the figure. It's head to body ratio scaling. Of course that might be completely beside the point but I can't tell because you won't go into detail.
Nobody ever goes into detail of how my autistic style hinders my drawings, they just say it's shit and I can't tell if they just hate how I stylize eyes and noses or if there is an actual error in the relations and proportions of the face. I cannot take advice when nobody can properly critique my trash or are overly vague about it, won't risk letting myself be spoonfed shit by crabs.

Chicken scratching? You expect me to put that on the priority list when I have shitty anatomy and perspective to fix?
Also I do in fact do real life studies. I'm just not stupid enough to spam every piece of shit copy I make whose errors I can recognize myself.

Way too complicated? This works just fine for me, I am indeed so autistic I need that many perspective and construction to keep track of the form. These are not finished drawings, I can't keep polishing turds and make them look less noisy as long as they are structurally sound, or not, which won't hinder anons from pointing out construction mistakes.

[Anonymous No.4063020]

>>4063014
And here's the ref after that ballistic autism outbreak.

[Anonymous No.4063035]

>>4063014

> Chicken scratching? You expect me to put that on the priority list when I have shitty anatomy and perspective to fix?

honestly, yes
having cleaner lines helps you see the errors in perspective and anatomy better: much less room to hide your mistakes tomodachi

>>4063020
man i hope noah isn't gonna get cucked again

[Anonymous No.4063078]

not finished

[Anonymous No.4063096]

>>4063035
These lines worked for me all this time and let me improve up to this point, do I really have to halt my progress for weeks to months on end just so I can rewire my muscle memory to draw with the shoulder? I can't lose more time anon, please, I wanna get out of beg level first.

[Anonymous No.4063142]

>>4063096
There's no need to stop everything and focus only on the lines, anon. Next time you draw something, focus on thinking about the end result a bit first, and imagining/visualizing the line before laying it down. A little bit of thought every time goes a long way.

>>4063014
I'd be worried about thar foreshortened arm, for example: the length is correct, but not for that angle. Like this, it looks like it's only reaching up to the top of her hip (if it were straight against the body), when it should be about thigh-length.

The head is a bit atrocious though: like that other guy, too much Loomis. Watch Steve Huston do the head, he does it a bit more naturally than Loomis/Proko (three hour video alert):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

[Anonymous No.4063143]

>>4062913
Nice. I think it is chicken scratching but what do I know. Line control on digital is a pain in the ass anyway, you can do what you want and then clean it up.

[Anonymous No.4063151]

>>4063143
the only chicken there is you, anon, chicken scratches is when you have no idea where your lines are going, here every line has its purpose

[Anonymous No.4063179]

>>4062098
Round the shoulders more on women

[Anonymous No.4063191]

>>4062135
It always pisses me off.
Literally hundreds of other threads to post in and they always put it in /beg/ even though it don't belong.
Puts me off practicing because I think, fuck if that's beginner I might actually be retarded.
Here you go, courtesy of a monghole, here's my shitty sketches to make other begs feel better about themselves.

[Anonymous No.4063193]

>>4061628
Some doodles I made today of one of my characters

[Anonymous No.4063194]

>>4063191
why his balls so smalls

[Anonymous No.4063200]

>>4063194
Cus I thought it'd be funny to draw a small pee pee and balls on him.

[Anonymous No.4063211]

>>4063193
>shit anatomy
>shit construction
>symbol drawning
>chicken scratching

dont make me say it

[Anonymous No.4063213]

>>4063191
do more of the milk truck to the right, you look like you were really on to something

[Anonymous No.4063221]

is the way I sketch chicken scratchy or is it just messy? it's hard for me to tell

[Anonymous No.4063223]

>>4063221
both, but you're cleaining your act up it seems

[Anonymous No.4063232]

>>4063223
cool, thanks for the feedback. Ive always kind of drawn like this and haven't had trouble reading my own sketches so I wasn't sure if it was something I really needed to work on

[Anonymous No.4063234]

>>4063211
Oi be nice

[Anonymous No.4063235]

>>4063020
>>4063014
Are you practicing construction or drawing from reference here? Why are you worrying about construction stuff like head to height proportions when you have the figure right in front of you? I think you need to focus on just being able to accurately draw what you see first.

>reference drawing
just turn the picture black and white and up the contrast then turn it upside and use a grid, either digitally or after printing. Then use the same grid on your drawing sheet and focus on drawing what's in each grid

>construction
either digitally or on paper, place a second tracing sheet/layer over the original drawing and draw out all the perspective lines and construct the figure by hand. Constructing a fucked up figure isn't practice and won't make you better, you're just practicing the wrong things. By tracing, you force yourself to practice constructing what HAS to become a correctly constructed figure from scratch, which is better practice.

[Anonymous No.4063241]

>>4063211
I don't get the contempt for chicken scratching. Unless you're finalising your work, I don't see how fine-tuning the overall shape is harmful at all.

[Anonymous No.4063243]

>>4062913
I think this is quite severe chicken scratches

[Anonymous No.4063250]

>>4063241
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4063255]

>>4063241
look at the arms and tits his lines are very inconsistent like he doesnt know where they go and just starts forming a shape with small lines

[Anonymous No.4063263]

I'm going to get destroyed or ignored and my depression won't like that, but I have to try and finally get feedback somewhere.
So basically I never use refs and always start without any real idea, thumb or gesture. I know I have to work in that. And anatomy, perspective, and colors cause I don't even understand what to do with those. But. If you had any advice right now ither thzn studying very basics fundies, which I will start doing now cause guessing can only get me so far, would you have anything in particular to point in this rough painting? Say I have to post it somewhere (not the case at all, I won't post anything before a very long time, I know how disgusting my level is) and this is my level. How do you minilizez the damage?

[Anonymous No.4063276]

Photorealism is boring and I'm neither into manga nor comics. What else is there?

[Anonymous No.4063279]

>>4063263

Sure you need to study anatomy and fundies and shit

but dude stop shading with a greyer version of the same colour; highlights should be warm or cool, and the shadows should have the opposite temperature: see how shadows outdoors appear bluish or purple when the sun's yellow

[Anonymous No.4063283]

>>4063279
Thanks. Sorry for deleting, I was getting into panick attack mode.

[Anonymous No.4063286]

>>4063276
Landscape, architecture, design, fashion. There's a lot more to art than just drawing people.

[inimicvs.voster @ gmail No.4063289]

>>4063283
dw fren I understand art can be tough; if you want some help away from prying eyes hit me up on my disposable mail up there

[Anonymous No.4063303]

>>4063289
Thanks, this is very nice. But I think I don't have any right asking anyone for help until I at least try to understand basic anatomy and stop guessing.

[Anonymous No.4063309]

>>4063303
that's okay; just keep at it and something good will come out of it

protip: get a CG Peers account when registration opens (you can check it on their website), and look into this course:

https://www.cgpeers.com/torrents.php?id=11230&torrentid=11226#torrent11226

hampton is a great anatomy and gesture teacher

[Anonymous No.4063316]

>>4063303
>>4063263
my only advice is don't get caught up on anatomy and construction. You use those when you DON'T have references. Work on being able to draw accurately from life or references first, then you use anatomy, construction, and perspective to be able to create your own scenes instead of needing to see them in a reference first. But if you can't accurately draw what you see then learning anatomy and construction won't help, because you won't be able to construct or draw anatomy accurately. Spending hours drawing loomis heads or whatever doesn't help if you don't know what a head looks like to begin with and how to draw one when it's sitting in front of you.

If you start with the harder stuff like anatomy and construction (anatomy in particular, and you don't need it anywhere near as much for how often it's recommended by /ic/) then you'll just get frustrated at your lack of progress and burn out.

[Anonymous No.4063360]

[Not an furry No.4063361]

Hey guys experimenting with shading on Sai. (Never done it b4) Can I get some technical support, I tried doing two separate layers for shadows [one dark shadow layer] and [one less dark shadow layer] but when they overlap it just makes the dark shadow darker AAaaaAa I dont want to have to erase where they eclipse eachother.

Also I'm having an existential crisis, I want to paint and do actual art, like portraits and stuff, but I also want to draw cute things and I feel like I can only delegate time to one of these two things.

Also stop calling me furfag, I dont associate with them I just draw things I think look cute >>4061690 old

[Anonymous No.4063373]

>>4063360
pedro mejor usar el referencia el proxima vez

[Anonymous No.4063383]

>>4063361
imbecile you are not supposed to shade with black and much less use the opacity to darkened or lighter the shadows, but im not good at painting either but never do that or you will get in that kind of stupid problem

[Anonymous No.4063395]

>>4063383
Im shading with red not black, but fine if you dont like red I'll do it in blue
Im not using opacity either I'm using the multiply layer effect which gives the semi transparent properties. Somebody told me I was supposed to do it.
Im making the shadows darker and lighter by changing the luminance. Jesus what does any of this even mean

[Anonymous No.4063405]

>>4063395
nvm im illiterate, but you said one dark layer and one less dark who the fuck uses the effects anyways, but you are better using the color palette toning down or brighten the colors hard to explain but you should look at the color theory book i myself havent read it but it seems that nobody shit on in and just shill it so it must be decent at the very least

[Anonymous No.4063407]

>>4063405
"the color theory book"

the
the one color theory book
the book
one and only
> the book

[Anonymous No.4063411]

>>4063407
yes

[Anonymous No.4063413]

>>4063405
Whats the color theory book? There is theory behind my colors, I dont think theyre an eyesore. I dont know I'm new.

>>4063407
I'm stealing that JC Denton Reaction image

[Anonymous No.4063417]

>>4063407
>>4063413
probably the gurney one you dunces

[Anonymous No.4063422]

>>4063417
Guacamole. I'll have a look.
I was thinking of painting over it to give it more depth after Ive finished blocking in colors like I'm doing currently. But I just dont want to over complicate it

[Anonymous No.4063427]

>>4063413
if you don't think you're new, get the fucking fuck out of /beg/

[Anonymous No.4063430]

>>4063427
I'm giving you a pass here because you said you were illiterate, but in the message youve just replied to, I am literally stating that I am new (to digital)

[Anonymous No.4063432]

>>4063407
this made me laugh a lot harder than it should have

[Anonymous No.4063437]

>>4063361
>Also stop calling me furfag, I dont associate with them I just draw things I think look cute
now that's getting confusing, what is a furry and what would be considered cute?

[Anonymous No.4063443]

>>4063437
Arent furries the people who dress up as animals and roleplay? Regardless of whether my definition is correct I just dont have any connection with them, no communities or whatever, so I just dont put myself in that catagory.
Cute is subjective. I draw what I think is cute

[Anonymous No.4063447]

>>4063383
>not supposed to shade in black
>only use ink
wat do

[Anonymous No.4063457]

>>4063361

>"Also stop calling me furfag"
>Literally posting furfag drawings

Denial isn't healthy anon. You are one of them. Accept your true self

[Anonymous No.4063460]

>>4063457
i do find it disheartening that people cant draw anthropomorphic animals without being called a furry now. sometimes its cool to draw a guy with a tiger head for a head or something, but 4chan stigma is so strong that people literally refuse to acknowledge it as art

[Anonymous No.4063462]

>>4063447
Use blue ink. duh. :P

[Anonymous No.4063464]

>>4063457
No Im not. I'm normal

>>4063460
Thanks anon


I may be being presumptuous here, but I'm assuming furries are a lifestyle or a community. Im not compatible with either. Me ≠ Furry

[Anonymous No.4063465]

>>4063443
No, most furries don't own fursuits. Your art screams "I aspire to own a fursuit and have gay sex in it" though. Get some taste.

[Anonymous No.4063473]

>>4063465
Youre irrational. The character I drew isnt even male for starters.
What is taste anon? What do you like. I'm going to pick on you now

[Anonymous No.4063477]

4chan is so negative about furries sometimes
here have a doggo

[Anonymous No.4063483]

thoughts on this construction?

[Anonymous No.4063488]

>>4063473
Raging furfaggotry is a state of being.

[Anonymous No.4063491]

>>4063488
DAMN, ovopack is a FURFAG?!

[Anonymous No.4063493]

>>4063488
What is this? Legend of Zelda? Is the person who made this a furry? Is the person who made the tiger on that cereal a furry by default too?

[Anonymous No.4063494]

>>4063477
>saying doggo
>"muh 4chan negativity"

nice drawing tho

[Anonymous No.4063496]

>>4063464
>>4063488

this is bait, for all you summersenpais

[Anonymous No.4063504]

>>4063496
"You're" going to need a bigger boat is wrong, Martin Brody the character that delivers the line is the owner of the boat so that doesnt make sense. Its we're going to need a bigger boat. Your bait jpg is almost as wrong as accusing me of being a summerfag because I chose not to post a bait reaction image

[Anonymous No.4063515]

>>4063361
Yeah, it has to do with how the layers are combining. There's a setting for it, I dunno what it is in Sai.

[Anonymous No.4063527]

>>4061772
Just piggybacking off of this

What am I doing wrong here?

[Anonymous No.4063534]

>>4063527
loomis

[Anonymous No.4063545]

>>4063534
I'm going through loomis now
that's how I started the construction

[Anonymous No.4063547]

>>4063527
You just gotta practice a lot more. It'll come together eventually.

[Wrexclone No.4063550]

[Anonymous No.4063561]

>>4062913
this guy does his shit on a giant ass canvas, theres no chicken scratch because his lines are so long

[Anonymous No.4063565]

>>4063483
You're too lazy with your contour lines. The hips are done wrong. The feet don't feel planted. (the right foot especially)

[Anonymous No.4063569]

>>4063527
hopw roewur ne

[Anonymous No.4063572]

having trouble with construction of the body. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.4063573]

>>4063550
Demon taking a shit?

[Anonymous No.4063574]

>>4063572

Just give up, you're ngmi. Stan Lee didn't have this much trouble.

[Anonymous No.4063583]

>>4063574
he's dead tho

[Anonymous No.4063584]

>>4063491
>>4063496
Nobody said Ovopack was a furfag in the same sense as fursuit-kun you unapologetic retards.
>>4063493
Ovopack is a furry-centric artist and thereby a furry by default. You don't opt out. Furry is a genre, not a gender. If you can only dismiss that piece with "muh Zelda" your criticism isn't particularly compelling.

[Anonymous No.4063585]

>>4063142
My god, I put that on my watch later list already. So I guess Loomis sort of is a meme?

[Anonymous No.4063598]

>>4063585
>Loomis sort of is a meme
Nah. It's like cooking steak. You can do sous vide, reverse sear, or just cook it directly in the pan. The end result is the same shit put the process is different. It's about preferences.

[Anonymous No.4063633]

>>4061772
>>4063527
Here is my take, i call her The Crimson Chin

[Anonymous No.4063726]

How do I pursue becoming a Concept Artist after I'm done with /beg/?

For example, if I wanted to be able to draw concept art for a spaceship (pic related), is it really just about grinding spaceships and redrawing them over and over again until it just kinda "pops"?

[Anonymous No.4063751]

>>4063726

You're still a /beg/ don't worry about it.

[Anonymous No.4063775]

how do i go from nothing to pic related?

[Anonymous No.4063781]

>>4063775
also this

[Anonymous No.4063793]

>>4063751
At what point should I start looking into the job then?

[Anonymous No.4063794]

>>4063726
Please elaborate what do you mean "pops"

[Anonymous No.4063796]

>>4063775
>how do i go from nothing to pic related?
First, I would suggest try to make art in higher resolution than that. LOL

[Anonymous No.4063810]

>erik olson perspective course is over 100 hours and requires you to buy drafting shit
pls tell me theres an easier way to do this

[Anonymous No.4063863]

>>4063793
Nevermind that guy. As soon as you're confident in your ability to deliver start looking for work. If you're good enough, you'll get in. If not, you won't. That's all.

Otherwise you're never gonna start.

[Anonymous No.4063875]

Toying around with embracing my bad habit of giant necks and elongated faces.

[Anonymous No.4063906]

>>4063464

We don't take kindly to furries here, furanon

[Anonymous No.4063928]

>>4063863
Pretty much the answer I was looking for, thank you!

[Anonymous No.4063934]

Trying again, what do you guys think? Any tips?

[Anonymous No.4063936]

>>4063934
is this a male or a female? I know it doesn't have a dick and those could be boobs but want to be sure.

[Anonymous No.4063943]

>>4063936
A very masculine woman lol

[Anonymous No.4063944]

>>4063934
Honestly It kinda feels to me like you went into anatomy a bit to early and now your gesture/structure/perspective etc are not developed enough to keep up.

[Anonymous No.4063948]

>>4063527
>What am I doing wrong here

[Anonymous No.4063950]

>>4063875
I'd recommend stopping, it looks fucking awful

[Anonymous No.4063953]

Robot Boy

[Anonymous No.4063954]

>>4063950
That's a mean thing to say anon. Entirely true though honestly.

[Anonymous No.4063956]

>>4063944
a very fair and true statement. I shall study a bit more in those regards then, but before i do, can you show me how a more natural pose and perspective would be?

[Anonymous No.4063962]

>>4063810
you don't need all the shit, just like a few small elememtary school rulers and a compass, you don't need a giant paper or a t ruler

[Anonymous No.4063970]

>>4063962
but it *will* take you more than a hundred hours as you'll have to copy and make your own notes from his lectures tho lmaö ggwp

[Anonymous No.4063976]

>>4063527
Hey man. So, memes aside, here's my 2c.

inb4 pyw: >>4062463 I know I'm practically /beg/, but I think I've internalized the theory well.

Take a look at pic related. I suggest you start doing this when you get into this "wtf did I do wrong?" moments. Just overlay your image with the reference. The issues are obvious.

But I'm gonna try to explain how you got here. First of all, it seems like things get worse the lower you go. Try to work "from bigger to smaller" and "out to in". That way you're not tackling one bit at a time. You need to place your forms as you work. All the forms. Then go over it again. Then again. Each pass needs to add detail. You don't do eyes first, then nose, then mouth, etc.

Second, most work will look shit at the stage you left it. So I'm gonna ignore all that.

Finally, you need to understand that as the face moves away from the plane of the paper, things start getting foreshortened. What you have here is you divided the face in thirds like we're taught to do but didn't realize that, at this angle, the face isn't split in exact thirds. So even as you drew the jaw, you stayed true to the "ball on top, jaw on bottom" idea. But that's not what's happening here. The ball should be mostly BEHIND the jaw, not on top of it.

You drew the nose well (enough). But then you got to the mouth and you know the mouth is halfway between the nose and chin and you just threw it in there, without noticing that the jaw/chin location is WAY OFF from what's presented in the reference.

You need to take more measurements. Building from construction is not easy and until you have some experience you're gonna have a hard time. Always measure angles. For example, in this case, you could have taken a measure of the angle from the outside of her right eye to the chin and realized that it's much different than what you have. And then trust your eyes.

In short, you're symbol drawing. But I hate that meme so hopefully this sheds some light for you.

[Anonymous No.4063977]

>>4063934
Good shit on the anatomy brah! I would point out that the shoulder needs to wrap behind the arm or else she would not be bale to lift her arm up. The collar bones seem to be straight on yours they are actually shaped like "bicycle handle" (to quote from Vilppu). Not sure about the face, with that flat nose she seem to have a bit of an alien or she might just have a deformity fro man accident. Ears are too small in both cases feel free to make them bigger and use them the ears as a rule of thumb are between the eyebrows and the bottom of the nose.

Overall pretty solid body tough, keep up the great work!!

[Anonymous No.4063985]

>>4063976
To add, as you can see here, there's some very interesting lines you can use in this reference for measurement of alignment and angles, which you have either ignored or misused. You need to learn to trust your eyes and your measurements, instead of your head. That way, you can build enough intuition to draw from construction in the future.

You just need to keep practicing, but practice drawing what you're see.

Took me a while to understand this to be honest, but I'm glad I did (even though I know I'm not there yet).

[Anonymous No.4064000]

>>4063977
oh my goodness, i am so excited! allof the things you pointed out were just the things that bothered me with the drawing. its like ya read me like a book. yes, her nose is deformed purposely but that is niether here nor there. lol anyway thanks a million friend, cheers!

[Anonymous No.4064006]

>>4064000
Your welcomin'

[Anonymous No.4064023]

Its kind of an oxymoron to ask for advice on drawing here when you can't see the person who's critiquing it's personal work isnt it ?
What stops someone who's actually shitter at drawing giving someone who's better terrible advice ?

[Anonymous No.4064025]

>>4064023
If your drawing is so bad that even a beginner see faults in it then you know you fucked up.

[Anonymous No.4064029]

>>4064025
Your not seeing my point though, how can you know that their right if you don't see an example of their work in the response.
Literally anyone who doesn't even draw could just come in the thread, make up a bunch of bullshit observations and leave.
Im not delusional either, I'm completely aware my work is dogshit, but I never give feedback because I know I'm still learning and am in no position to give advice on how to draw anything.

[Anonymous No.4064036]

>>4064023
Whine harder, Jesus Christ.

You look at a critique and you decide whether it applies to you or not. If you don't want critiques from people who may be worse than you (disregarding the obvious irony) than don't post. Simple as that.

Also, pyw exists for a reason.

Also, also, pyw.

[Anonymous No.4064044]

>>4064036
I'm not whining, I'm just saying people should take feedback on here with a grain of salt.
If your a beginner your gonna take all critique to heart, but it could actually be really bad advice given to you by someone who don't know shit.
That's why I don't give them, cus I'm literal toddler level and I'm still struggling with the most basic principles.
There you go, point and laugh all you want.

[Anonymous No.4064048]

>>4063875
don't

[Anonymous No.4064049]

>>4064029
If worse people could never see flaws in better work then how would you see flaws in your own work? Can people never improve without outside critique?

I never post my work here because I've never drawn anything that doesn't have patently obvious flaws, and I don't need a bunch of jackasses telling me what I already know.

[Anonymous No.4064052]

>>4064044
> given to you by someone who don't know shit

I show my stuff to a friend all the time, and he doesn't know shit. But he has seen actual human faces before. He points out that the eye is crooked, or the side of the face is off, or the shading could use some work because while you're drawing something sometimes you miss the obvious.

You ever eaten something and thought "man this shit's too salty"? You should be allowed to tell that to a chef without being a chef yourself.

You're in denial. If you got someone pointing out your flaws you shouldn't be jumping to "this person doesn't know shit". Instead notice the flaws they're pointing out and work on fixing them.

Memes don't count.

[Anonymous No.4064054]

>>4064052
>>4064049

Also, there is such a thing as knowing the theory without being able to put it into practice, yet. So yeah, someone can know more than their work represents.

[Anonymous No.4064057]

>>4064052
I'm not even jumping to conclusions, I'm aware people can point out basic flaws in a drawing and I'm not blind to the fact that I can self assess whether something looks right or not.
I just don't see how you can trust in the feedback your given on an anonymous art forum when you can't see the person who's giving its work.
Most of it is right, but it don't take away from the fact people can make terrible suggestions without a check to see if they can actually draw or not.

[Anonymous No.4064060]

>>4064052
>You're in denial. If you got someone pointing out your flaws you shouldn't be jumping to "this person doesn't know shit". Instead notice the flaws they're pointing out and work on fixing them.
this is how hot tomato soup and sweet licorice were invented, from gazpacho soup and salted licorice.

[Anonymous No.4064062]

>>4064057
Why would you *trust* anyone here in the first place you dumb fuck? Take what's useful and leave the remaining 99% dregs in the gutter where they belong, as with anything in life

[Anonymous No.4064064]

>>4061772
>>4063527
>>4063633
Is it really that complicated? I barely tried and the only thing that gave me trouble was the mouth and those are rather difficult for me but it's just a simple portrait to study
What happened to all the various fellow /beggars/ who did pretty good studies last year? Did they all graduate from /beg/ already?

[Anonymous No.4064067]

>>4063572
your construction looks flat, read some bridgmans and try to give some volume to your figures, the image i attached may give you the idea

[Anonymous No.4064068]

I've already plateaued on Loomis heads. What the fuck. I have been practicing daily for months. I've watched Proko, Jazza. I've read all of Loomis works. But I just can't get my brain to understand 3D shapes. I have aphantasia, could it be related? Or am I just a retard?

Fuck. Practice drawing they said, it'll be fun they said.

[Anonymous No.4064070]

>>4064062
Thank you for proving my point

[Anonymous No.4064071]

>>4064068
>Proko
>Jazza
>Loomis

[Anonymous No.4064072]

>>4064068
just a retard
go watch vilppu

[Anonymous No.4064074]

>>4064057
this is why we say pyw pyw pyw

[Anonymous No.4064075]

>>4064068
you're getting there, but you're missing the perspective, try doing some other methods like bridgmans, he use cubes for doing the head, may give you a better sense of perspective, in your first's tries try tracing some ref's to get an idea of the proportions and then try doing without tracing

[Anonymous No.4064077]

>>4063565
made some slight modifications, how does it look now?

[Anonymous No.4064081]

Hello /ic/. This is my very first time attempting art. I drew a face. Please critique my face and ignore the hair. I'm trying to learn to art so I can work on graphic novels and stuff. Thank you for your help.
I intentionally tried to make the cheeks and eyes gaunt. I think I did a kinda okay job for the first piece.

[Anonymous No.4064082]

>>4064068
its harder to put a circle in perspective than a square/box. figure out the rules for placing landmarks of anatomy and then work on finding your own process. you dont have to use circles. your aim is to consistently get a head onto paper, not how to draw a circle inside a circle with lines and arbitrary curves.

[Anonymous No.4064087]

>>4064081
you'll be an excellent horror artist

[Anonymous No.4064097]

Is there any consensus on what skills qualify one to graduate from /beg/?

Is there a beg exit test? Or examples of work that is borderline beg?

[Anonymous No.4064102]

>>4064097
10000 drawings.

[Anonymous No.4064104]

>>4064097
There isn't an official one, but if more than 5 people will unironically tell you not /beg/ or if the thread gets derailed because people think you're just bragging by posting non /beg/ work on /beg/ then congratulations you're not /beg/ anymore.

[Anonymous No.4064106]

>>4064097
there's no "level" theres always room for improvement, just try and make next days drawings better than todays, even if its just a little.
Pursuing art is also meant to be fun, so its also fine to just draw to the level you feel comfortable at and move on when you want, that's something a lot of people don't really accept.

[Anonymous No.4064112]

>>4064104
>>4064102
this
like Kratos McDeathgrip up there getting bullied because begs don't think he's beg is still probably beg but he's damn near the top of the bottom

[Anonymous No.4064115]

>>4064112
That entirely depends on what you aim to do. It's far easier to improve portraits and life drawings than imagination ones, especially in black and white. I think his drawing looks good but even then I am postive he oversized his eyes.

[Anonymous No.4064118]

>>4064115
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

[Anonymous No.4064124]

>>4063953
Not a very serious or critique-worthy drawing, but I had to say your lines are beautiful and confident. Except for the robo-shins/lower leg, what happened there?

[Anonymous No.4064136]

>>4063976
>>4063985
Wow thank you guys this is really helpful
It's funny seeing it overlap like that as I can see clearly where I lost control.
I don't have a any photo editing program to do something like that but the tips you guys gave me about the measurements is helpful.
I haven't gotten to foreshortening yet but I'll keep reading through loomis

[Anonymous No.4064150]

>>4063527
Your brain took over

[Anonymous No.4064157]

>>4064150
I wish people would stop posting this shitty meme already

[Anonymous No.4064163]

How the fuck do I attatch the ribs and the waist

[Anonymous No.4064168]

>>4064163
post work

[Anonymous No.4064171]

>>4063976
serious question

What's a good way to go about studying these books? I'm also doing draw a box in tandem.

Should I just keep doing the cartoon faces until I get them right and move on to the next chapter? or can I keep reading forward and take in as much as I can?

I keep practicing gesture drawings and portrait drawings after the exercises cause I want to see if I'm making any progress but I want o make sure I'm not developing bad habits and that I'm at least studying effectively.

[Anonymous No.4064180]

>>4064171

Switch to realism asap. Cartoons are to simplify the concept

Unless you're into that, then continue

[Anonymous No.4064205]

>>4064077
Continued process. I can't draw feet

[Anonymous No.4064257]

I hate this but I don't know how to fix it,particularly the head's left eye

[Anonymous No.4064262]

I hate this but I don't know how to fix it

[Anonymous No.4064263]

new >>4064260

[Anonymous No.4064661]

>>4064067
thank you for the advice

[Anonymous No.4065169]

>>4061628
pls crit

[Anonymous No.4065361]

>>4065169
Nice job curving the shadows around the logs. As far as crits, the bottom log on the front face is out of perspective. Also the door is unusually wide and looks like a giant window.

[Anonymous No.4065371]

>>4065169
Here's what I mean by the log perspective. You can practice by drawing a bunch of cylinders in different angles.

[Anonymous No.4065382]

>>4065169
Find a good reference photo and deconstruct the parts of it. In the picture the stacked logs make a distinct zig-zag seam. Also the base logs are sawed to make a flat bottom. If you include details like these your cabin will become more believable.

[Anonymous No.4065423]

>>4065361
>>4065371
>>4065382
thank you for the great advice

[Anonymous No.4065524]

>>4064171
What >>4064180 said. I fucking hate that the Loomis book.

[Anonymous No.4066763]

All memory drawing

[Anonymous No.4066772]

Sketching as fast as I can see