/beg/ thread

[Anonymous No.4044840]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it


previous >>4040051
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.4044876]

>>4044828
thanks for the advice
I'm kind of doing something stupid where I'm pretending I'm using a pen in an effort to make myself be better at getting things first try
You'll see there's points where I couldnt help myself and erased anyway because it was so far off
Doing simpler poses from multiple angles will probably be more helpful.

[Anonymous No.4044904]

It's hard to draw during summer bros

[Anonymous No.4044940]

I can't break things down into 3D shapes for shit, it's really annoying; I think it's partially down to Keys to Drawing never touching upon it, he just tells you to break things down via large 2D shapes, like a triangle or a square as opposed to a pyramid and a cube

is pure observation drawing inferior to breaking subjects down to basic 3D shapes?
also curious as to what the best resources are for learning how to do so

[Anonymous No.4044944]

>>4044904
You're absolutely right.
>want to draw
>humid as shit
>energy drained for most of the day, end up doing nothing
Mother Nature's a slut.

[Anonymous No.4044957]

>>4044940
piece of shit PC crashed, man I need a fucking SSD too
literally crashed because I made a post and clicked another tab, fuck

[Anonymous No.4044960]

>>4044904
Nice page anon

>>4044940
I'd say its best to hace both. Knowing construction helps a lot when you want to changed a ref pose or want to go full imagination

Posting some old masters shit, pretty fun stuff

[Anonymous No.4044961]

>>4044940
It's an inferior method of analysis if your art goal is to draw stuff from imagination (which is 99,999%'s of /ic/s goal)
I would recommend you do some introductory perspective ( i personally like Framed perspective though usually perspective made easy is what most people here recommend) and then go through dynamic sketching, either get the video lectures off the internet or follow the book's stuff. If you somehow can't find peter han's material then do drawabox, but don't get sucked into that community or you'll NGMI.
Actually don't spend too much time here either

[Anonymous No.4044974]

[Anonymous No.4045057]

R8 charcoal scribble.

[Anonymous No.4045137]

crit welcome bros

[Anonymous No.4045145]

>>4045137
looks fine, if you are make side views always try to make some of the parts that are hide, because always is gonna look weird a perfect angle when you can't see the other leg and the other hand.

[Anonymous No.4045195]

Crit me bros, been practicing figure drawing for a while and just dip my toe into anatomy study

[Anonymous No.4045198]

>>4045195
Why the heck the uploaded pic automatically rotated?

[Anonymous No.4045202]

>>4045198
post ref no way the tits ade that close

[Anonymous No.4045229]

>>4045202
Here anon

[Anonymous No.4045237]

>>4045229
you're drawing a fold where there isnt one, her breasts arent large enough to spill over and create a fold

[Anonymous No.4045289]

Where am I going off-model on this?

[Anonymous No.4045302]

So, tell me: This shit is really useful?

[Anonymous No.4045304]

>>4045289
arm muscles and shoulders too small
traps too high
hairline is scalloped
abs too long
eyes a little smalll
ears too long/pointy

this is hella nitpicky but you aren't that far off

[Anonymous No.4045329]

>>4045302
it's all useful in some way


i guess

[Anonymous No.4045353]

>>4045304
What about this?

[Anonymous No.4045356]

[Anonymous No.4045358]

reposting for feedback

[Anonymous No.4045360]

>>4045358

[Anonymous No.4045369]

>>4045289
Sorry I couldn't explain it any better, but draw the entire shape first. Like draw a circle for the head, draw a circle for the chest. Don't just lopsided improv over everything.

[Anonymous No.4045372]

>>4045353
brandon probably came out the worst

[Anonymous No.4045395]

>>4045353
this one is pretty on point. it could fit in the show


any suggestions on how to render its hair ic? I'm stumped and feel like erasing lines on top of the hair.

[Anonymous No.4045396]

Practicing on the ipad

[Anonymous No.4045445]

Saw a wacky vase at Goodwill the other day that looked like something straight out of The Neverhood, thought I'd draw something based off of it, then decided to do a proper background. Thoughts thus far?

[Anonymous No.4045454]

are we getting paid yet

[Anonymous No.4045469]

>>4044840
Sorry I don't have a picture to post, phone is dead and charging. Did you guys start in directly with Loomis or did you guys ease in with Edwards or Dodson?

I'm working through some of the exercises in Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain but there's just a lot of psychology in between exercises and, maybe I'm completely retarded, but I feel like a lot of the lecture elements are going over my head. Should I keep going? Should I try Keys to Drawing or Fun with Pencil instead?

[Anonymous No.4045477]

>>4045302
It helps my hand eye coordination before i do a l9ng study. It also helps with animating from imagination

[Anonymous No.4045564]

>>4045469
ignore the shit she talks about between exercises. Just do the basic activities and move on. She confused the fuck outta me when I started. The point of the book is to tell you that you should use your eyes instead of symbol drawing. I did a couple and moved on to actual fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.4045595]

anyone have a good guide for constructing a skull? all of mine look like disproportionate shit because I don't know what the form is

[Anonymous No.4045628]

Does anyone know what happened to this guy? Did he kill himself yet?

[Anonymous No.4045662]

How does one ink metal?

[Anonymous No.4045665]

hey boys what do you think of Drawing for the Absolute and Utter Beginner or Keys to Drawing over Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain? I fucking hate Betty, the pseudoscience blabber is super boring and useless and the unnecessary materials are also kinda annoying.

[Anonymous No.4045668]

>>4045469
Do the exercises not the pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.4045676]

>>4045595
Look at skulls.
Draw them.

[Anonymous No.4045680]

are these coming along okay? i think the one on the left is decent so far but i think they are too orange

[Anonymous No.4045682]

I'm drawing chest/ribcage structure too narrow and flat and legs too short. What else can you see in these 1/2/5 min sketches that can "easily" be fixed by just keeping it in mind next time?

[Anonymous No.4045699]

still trying to get used to this Wacom

[Anonymous No.4045721]

>>4045628
>best one! Good job

[Anonymous No.4045724]

>>4045628
Why the fuck was he using a paintbrush?

[Anonymous No.4045732]

>>4045724
shading

[Anonymous No.4045736]

What's a good ressource to learn how to draw expressions?

[Anonymous No.4045739]

>>4045736
a mirror

[Anonymous No.4045752]

>>4045680
they dont look three dimensionel

[Anonymous No.4045761]

>>4045680
Symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.4045762]

>>4045680
Eric?

[Anonymous No.4045763]

>>4045739
>implying people on /ic/ are capable of expressing anything but sheer terror at picking up a pencil

[Anonymous No.4045767]

>>4044840
How's my coloring? Well, the complete piece, but I tried too many new things at once now for the rendering. I can still see my lineart is weak but I cleaned it up for days already.

[Anonymous No.4045772]

>>4045767
It's too saturated for a rainy day.

[Anonymous No.4045777]

>>4045767
If it really was raining and cloudy like that those 60 ft tall dudes would be very obscured

[Anonymous No.4045798]

>>4045772
>>4045777
Like this?
The angel is a giant light source though so I think it doesn't get affected by its surroundings, and it would also illuminate the mecha who is very close. But I still obscured and desaturated it more

[Anonymous No.4045802]

>>4045798
you didn't desaturate anything you made it dirty looking

[Anonymous No.4045806]

>>4045798

[Anonymous No.4045813]

>>4045767
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.4045821]

My ability to shade, blend and do shadows is awful.

What can I do to improve my ability to see values/shadows and recreate them aside from just looking at stuff? Any particular books, videos or exercises? I've already watched about 10 different Youtube lectures on it, including Proko.

[Anonymous No.4045828]

>>4045821
>Any particular books, videos or exercises? I've already watched about 10 different Youtube lectures on it, including Proko.
try actually doing it cuck boy (deploy)

[Anonymous No.4045830]

>>4045752
shit i was worried about that
>>4045761
yeah i hope ive fixed at least some of that
>>4045762
i never left

well i worked on it some more and think its coming better

[Anonymous No.4045844]

>>4045802
>>4045806
Alright now I used real desaturation.. though I also tried to follow the other anon's advice on things obscuring at the distance. Is it because of the clouds or fog? Or is it a perspective thing? If it's the clouds then I kinda solve it by having the characters poke through them (though this is a very improvised method...).
If it's a perspective thing... well let's take a stylistic choice because I want to fully show them. My original concept did have them far away and faded into the sky with an overlay layer, but they're kinda close here, you should be able to see their details.
>>4045813
Please don't bully

[Anonymous No.4045852]

>>4045353
hands
you misunderstand the ribcage they went for, your grey part doesnt make sense
dont curve the man's bones dude ouch

[Anonymous No.4045854]

>>4045830
Get a photo of a ref, draw it, post your drawing with the ref and then we can show you where you're symbol drawing and boom if you'd just pay attention to the points we raise you'd improve by leaps with a single exercise

[Anonymous No.4045857]

>>4045828
>try actually doing it cuck boy (deploy)
This isn't super useful. Doing it over and over incorrectly probably won't help me get better.

[Anonymous No.4045862]

>>4045699
pro?

[Anonymous No.4045865]

>>4045844
Much better, If those tall boys aren't that bright, you should choose a darker white, it would make them pretty much bigger in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.4045873]

>>4044960
>Nice page anon
Thanks, I really like the stuff you posted too

[Anonymous No.4045874]

Fuck hemorrhoid, i used to sitting hours drawing /studying full focus, i feel so good doing that,after hemorrhoids surgery,it still made me feel like someone stabbing my ass with a knife EVERY 30 GODDAMM MINUTES, i can't draw anymore. Remember to drink a lots of water and eat more vegetable, guys .

[Anonymous No.4045880]

why cant i be good?

studied loomis, drawn for almost 3 years

[Anonymous No.4045882]

>>4045821
The side that the light hits and the side opposite to the light should have different values, it's not that hard. Try doing this tonal bar exercise and then use a dark value for the side that is opposite to the light and a light value for the side that is facing the light.

[Anonymous No.4045883]

>>4045880
You study Loomis then make that fucktard flat assed mongoloid stuff? Its one or the other kid

[Anonymous No.4045887]

>>4045880
If you feel that studying Loomis is not effective at all, try another book or artist. You can return to Loomis later.

[Anonymous No.4045889]

>>4045880
In 3 years you could have looked in desperation at least at
>how to draw anime tutorials
or looked for anime character sheets on google. But it's not too late. At least try to get a feel or watch actual pros draw on youtube.. getting "the feel" is important in my opinion, the feel of how it's done in a right way.

Don't feel too bad about it. Just the right amount to move you forward. I too am stubborn most of the time, for example trying to draw motorcycles without even knowing how they look like but I refused to do research (and failed). There's plenty of material to draw some cute anime girls or at least see how others do it.
Same thing with martial arts too, I remember trying to draw awesome kicks and punches without even knowing how to throw them.

[Anonymous No.4045901]

I WANT TO MAKE IT

[Anonymous No.4045906]

>>4045901
Well, now you can be a ghost artist for the original artist. Not much else though.

[Anonymous No.4045915]

>>4045857
obviously you will use your eyes to see where you went wrong and then fix it. are you on the spectrum btw?

[Anonymous No.4045919]

>>4045857
>Doing it over and over incorrectly
Ah yes. Begs, please remember that you should only practice things you can already do. Doing something the wrong way will actually make you REMEMBER IT THE WRONG WAY - there's literally no way to make it then. You CANNOT fix what you have already learned. Stay careful dear begs.

[Anonymous No.4045924]

I was going to post some of my studies here but it looks like it's full of crabs today.

[Anonymous No.4045926]

>>4045924
just admit you didnt do any

[Anonymous No.4045931]

>>4045926
I didn't do a whole lot

[Anonymous No.4045932]

>>4045931
get some variety in those eyes man come on, they're all the same with slightly shifted pupils

[Anonymous No.4045955]

>>4045932
T-thanks, I guess... The tutorial I used only covered how to draw symbols for the features and was more concerned with getting the proportions correct https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYjpkg6vrlg
I'll study the features in more detail then.

[Anonymous No.4045962]

>>4045955
Yeh, the video it's aight, but just read loomis

[Anonymous No.4045968]

best construction method to learn? I tried hampton but everything came out really stiff
Most of the time i draw poses i just draw the anatomy piece by piece but it doesn't always come out alright, or i have to spend a lot of time trying to fix the stiffness

[Anonymous No.4046002]

>>4045229
How much have i messed up the proportions of this chick? I made her too thicc, right?

[Anonymous No.4046004]

>>4046002
try to remember that everything is much more subtle than it seems

[Anonymous No.4046011]

>>4045955
I'm talking about those 15 singular eyes that have nothing to do with proportion practice, bud
If you want to practice facial proportions without focusing on polishing the eyes you need to draw full heads

[Anonymous No.4046036]

>>4046011
I was just trying to memorize the way he drew an eye, and to vary it slightly. Is pic related what you mean by stylizing it more?

[Anonymous No.4046046]

>tfw still grinding my way out of "can't even hold the pencil right" trench

[Anonymous No.4046047]

>>4045736
https://lackadaisy.foxprints.com/exhibit.php?exhibitid=333

[Anonymous No.4046048]

>>4045968
I'd recommend watching Huston's figure drawing courses or Karl Gnass' Spirit of the Pose if you're worried about your figures looking too stiff. They know that gesture (how the figure flows together) is more important than simply getting the right shapes, and they teach how to construct the figure with that in mind. Both Huston and Vilppu say gesture is the most important part of all figure drawing.

Hampton's "method" most likely isn't the cause of the stiffness. Sounds like its due to your quality and understanding of gesture. There is no single method of "construction" that you should strictly adhere to anyway. If you are trying to remember a formula then you are doing it wrong unless you're learning the Reilly method. Even then you can modify it to meet your own liking like Nathan Fowkes.

Whats most important to learn from these constructive figure drawing books and courses is how to visually break complex forms like the human body down into simpler shapes in your head and on paper, and how build them up from there using construction lines and value to suggest realistic 3 dimensional shape and volume on your paper. You are learning how to draw complex forms in perspective ontop of just gaining knowledge of how to draw the figure.

[Anonymous No.4046049]

>>4045880
Use a fucking reference.

Those HANDS my GOD.

[Anonymous No.4046052]

>>4046046
I should add that this was my first time doing shading and I was just experimenting with the mixer brush. Excuses excuses.

[Anonymous No.4046073]

>>4046036
no, those are symbol drawings. stylization =/= symbol drawing. remember this. frame it and hang it up on your wall

[Anonymous No.4046075]

>>4046047
Ty anon

[Anonymous No.4046102]

Tried painting, can you tell me what mistakes I'm making? I'm trying to get into the mindset of using atmospheric colors rather than just blocking in local colors and formulaicly adding shadows with a multiply layer over it
Left is what I did originally, right is after tone and level correction. I think it looks better after but the saturation was raised universally, I think the blues should be a bit less vibrant

[Anonymous No.4046104]

Also, how do you go about starting a painting? Sketching the scene or kind of just blocking in silhouettes/colors?

[Anonymous No.4046113]

How do you start a figure drawing from reference? I watch other people draw figures and they look like they're just winging it and getting all the proportions right and capturing the likeness of the figure. Where does visual measuring fit into any of this?

[Anonymous No.4046120]

>>4046113
Draw a circle for the head.

Draw a stick figure skeleton. Measure the bones against the head to get the proportions right. Feel free to draw guide lines if you need to (i.e. the elbow is one and a half heads to the left of the spin and a quarter head up, so I will draw guide lines on those planes and put the elbow where they intersect).

Add the contours.

If you're on digital make liberal use of the transform tool to drag, rotate, and resize things that look right in the wrong place or whatever. It's not cheating and eventually you'll need to do it less.

You now have a guide for your actual drawing to go on top of.

[Anonymous No.4046126]

>>4046120
So I should measure for stuff like a dot where the elbow should go, on top of my gesture or something? What about observing details?

[Anonymous No.4046132]

>>4046102
You're doing good. If you want the adjustment to apply only where you want, you can create a filter mask and hide some areas by painting the mask with black.

>what mistakes I'm making?
I'd soften the edge of the light on the right wall, and harden the top edges of the wall, leaving some parts soft or lost for variety and visual interest. Like you kinda have on the top left edge, where a piece of a hard edge is seen betweenlost edges.

[Anonymous No.4046136]

>>4046126
>So I should measure for stuff like a dot where the elbow should go
If you feel you need to. I usually try and freehand my stick figure and only go for the guide lines if I feel I'm not getting it right.

>on top of my gesture or something?
I wouldn't start with a gesture drawing. If you want to incorporate one, I'd do it on top of the rough contour sketch. If you're trying to reproduce the reference you don't need a gesture drawing because a correct reproduction will capture the dynamism of the reference. If you're just using the reference as a basis for your drawing then having the contour sketch of the reference first will make sure that your gesture conforms in broad strokes to the reference. That way any deviation you make from the reference for the purposes of exaggeration is intentional and calculated, and won't turn into a fuck up later on.

>observing details
Most of the details are part of the contour sketch. For example, if you're drawing a guy flexing his bicep then the shape of his bicep is integral to his arm, so when you're contouring his arm you contour out the bicep too to make sure it's in the right place. The shape of his pectorals affects how his shoulder is shaped, so you'd need to sketch them in as well. Basically, you include the details that are necessary to get the basic landmarks of the sketch down.

The point is that you want a sketch that precisely reproduces the reference. Then you can draw over the top of that sketch to make any changes you want or just to clean it up. As you get better you will combine the two steps.

[Anonymous No.4046157]

>>4046073
> stylization =/= symbol drawing
I know it's symbol drawing. I specifically said I was drawing symbols because I don't know what real eyes look like and I want to get the general proportions of the face correct first before delving into specific parts.

[Anonymous No.4046174]

>>4045676
ok thanks i was just being retarded

[Anonymous No.4046182]

>>4046157
okay wait
?
you drew 15 low effort eyes, isolatedly
i told you not to waste time doing that, because you dont learn proportion without something else to compare it to, because, you know, proportion is about one size in proportion to another
you then proceed to draw 12 more low effort eyes

let me clarify: Stop drawing things in isolation unless you are studying those things in depth.

[Anonymous No.4046183]

Are the gains made while practicing on a usb tablet transferable to the paper? I don't like to waste paper with my shit drawings from imagination so I practice mostly on tablet, I am concerned that on paper i will be unable to do what I learn on tablet.

[Anonymous No.4046185]

ive been drawing since i was like 8 and i still CANT draw anythung besides the head i need to use references ive spent years practicing bodies but i cant seem to get better at them. is there any other way to do it? am i gonna be shit forever?

[Anonymous No.4046190]

>>4046185
if that's your work GTFO humblebragging Nigger! otherwise post werk

[Anonymous No.4046203]

>>4045595
>anyone have a good guide for constructing a skull?
Vilppu does. But it won't help you right away because you'll still need to study them a lot to get the basic shape of the cranium right.

[Anonymous No.4046210]

>>4046183
Yes they do. I was surprised myself when I found it out because I also practiced on a tablet.

[Anonymous No.4046213]

>>4046203
thanks for the rec. I know it's not perfect but I made >>4046174 does it seem like a step in the right direction? I'd prefer to skip drawing the head in such an abstract manner and instead focus on the actual anatomy and bones before I simplify it.

[Anonymous No.4046229]

>>4046190
wym humblebragging man this only looks acceptable cause I traced that's what I'm asking for I don't want to keep tracing forever

[Anonymous No.4046235]

>>4046229
>tracing

[Anonymous No.4046246]

>>4046229
tracing is a tool that should be used extremely sparsely as a beginner, if at all
I reserve it for trying to get brand logos to look right or complicated mechanical shit and even then its only to build understanding so you can then draw it without tracing

[Anonymous No.4046254]

>>4046246
ya the thing is I don't learn anything from it, how can I ////understand//// more deeply when I trace?

[Anonymous No.4046264]

>>4046254
so stop doing it

[Anonymous No.4046378]

>>4046254
You can't, so stop.

[Anonymous No.4046390]

Is Hogarth a good resource for a relative beginner?

[Anonymous No.4046405]

>>4046264
>>4046378
okay boy thank you :-)

[Anonymous No.4046408]

>>4046405
>:-)
We don't use those here.

[Anonymous No.4046418]

[Anonymous No.4046449]

>>4046418
3 finger

[Anonymous No.4046479]

Hey artist anons, I've been getting back to the drawing board and I need advice to point me in the right direction. Not looking to be a hardcore pro, just be gud enough to draw decently for myself.

I drew this traditionally and colored it in picsart. The couch was drawn in picsart.

[Anonymous No.4046493]

First thing that I've drawn and colored to (near) completion since I bought a tablet two weeks ago.
It started as a reference study. The pose is similar to the original, but I kept adding and changing things as I went along, like the hand position, for the sake of trying things out.

Aside from the eyes, what else is fucked up here?

[Anonymous No.4046499]

could have probably drawn slime stuff better but i wanted to finish it today

[Anonymous No.4046503]

Can someone red line or just tell me where i'm going wrong? It still looks and feels so flat. I also think i'm going too fast but I don't want to spend 2 hours drawing a beetle. What are some good exercises/advice wrt form?

[Anonymous No.4046511]

>>4046503
why did you spend all that time constructing them if you weren't going to use the constructed forms? that's why they feel flat.

[Anonymous No.4046518]

I'm new to oil painting and am going to buy some paints soon.

Can anyone tell me which brands are worst/best?
Are there any good brands that are cheaper than the others, so I'm not paying shit tons for the same thing?
Is there generally a best website or place to shop for oil paints?

Thanks for any help painters. I'll take any details you have to offer!

[Anonymous No.4046529]

>>4046493
the hair is shit, the hips, the right leg, the nipples, the structure of the face, the ear.
Also if you wanted color the thing you better actual use the fill tool and not paint by yourself, because looks bad and you are only painting the base colors.

[Anonymous No.4046531]

>>4046499
blog?

[Anonymous No.4046535]

>>4046518
You could try asking in the traditional art thread.

>Is there generally a best website or place to shop for oil paints?
I guess it depends on your location, and maybe other factors. Try dickblick and Jackson's, see which is cheaper.

[Anonymous No.4046539]

>>4046529
>hips
What specifically?

>Also if you wanted color the thing you better actual use the fill tool and not paint by yourself
I found out this once I'd combined layer for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.4046552]

>>4046213
>does it seem like a step in the right direction?
Yeah, sure if you study from reference. Compare your drawing to the ref, I think it should be more like this.

[Anonymous No.4046556]

>>4045628
Story behind this?

[Anonymous No.4046564]

>>4046531
someone will be angry at me for shilling myself in /beg/
look for my post in self promotion thread

[Anonymous No.4046573]

I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone by drawing full bodies, what could I have done better with this one?

[Anonymous No.4046587]

>>4046573
Give him a sandwich. Also, what's the point of a silenced pistol when he's using an AK?

[Anonymous No.4046612]

>>4046573
pelvis is too short, makes his legs look too long and thin
look at any image of the pants, for most of them waist area (between top and legs separation) is about 1/4 of overall length
not bad otherwise

[Anonymous No.4046623]

Nazifurs

[Anonymous No.4046631]

going through hampton's book

[Anonymous No.4046633]

>>4046552
a skull is diffidently not that wide

[Anonymous No.4046673]

>>4045057
Your perspective is fucked, but I can dig the atmosphere of the image. I would also work on line consistency, even if it is a scribble, they tend to wobble here.

[Anonymous No.4046679]

>>4045739
Unironically this

[Anonymous No.4046702]

Is it actually better to grind the fundies than to draw what you like and figure out what needs work? Literally taking all the fun out of drawing for me, but if it actually will be better in the long run I'll stick it out.

[Anonymous No.4046761]

>>4044840
Im triying to learn shadows and body proportions,been drawing a lot of gesters, do I really need to learn the whole human anatomy to know how to draw and if so Ive been reading loomis any other good books for a 2iq dummy like me?

[Nosebro No.4046771]

>>4044904
leave beg
>>4044960
leave beg
>>4045137
Overly sexualized bi-sexual female self insert.
leave beg
>>4045356
overly referenced trash
>>4045395
leave beg
>>4046418
leave beg

[Anonymous No.4046789]

All those years of drawing nothing but poorly cell shaded anime fucked me up, I feel like I have no idea how to cleanly render anything

[Anonymous No.4046813]

>>4046499
How on earth does a /beg/ get this good at coloring? I want that... Unless he's not beg. The hands are the only thing I faintly notice as off.

[Anonymous No.4046828]

>>4044840
One thing I'm having trouble with is digital painting, is there a recommended resource for it? Whenever I see someone do photorealism they do nothing but color pick, paint, and blend then repeat. I'm tryin gto do more painting from imagination but have no clue where to even look for it. Using CSP/procreate if that matters.

[Anonymous No.4046848]

>>4046390
Hogarth isn't a good resource for anyone.

[Anonymous No.4046849]

Can someone explain to me what's going on with the shoulder joint in this position? Particularly where the line of the breast just disappears into the armpit? I thought the pectoral muscle lead into the deltoid? Also critique please.

[Anonymous No.4046853]

>>4046848
Can you explain further? Like, why in particular?

[Anonymous No.4046867]

>>4046853
dont take him seriously. its great if you want to draw figures in dynamic perspective

[Anonymous No.4046869]

I've been doing at eyes at home, now that they switched my break time. Any pointers? 1/2

[Anonymous No.4046870]

More eye. I think I over did this one with charcoal...

[Anonymous No.4046872]

Had fun drawing these in class. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4046877]

desided to give hampton a go

[Anonymous No.4046879]

>>4046539
you made the abdomen like a rectangle, like almost a straight line to the legs, i think is pretty obvious, if you want to make her fat you put some curves there no straight lines, you put the bones of the hips but is no point is the thing up that is almost perpendicular. Also i forgot about the navel, is too low on the whole, that whole zone was poorly made in general.

[Anonymous No.4046881]

>>4046493
You're lines are pretty inconsistent. They also have some blur in spots that are a little weird.

[Anonymous No.4046897]

Gonna try to make it a habit of drawing at all. I'll worry about improving later.

[Anonymous No.4046903]

>>4046897
That's a good start. Just keep at it everyday. You'll get there.

[Anonymous No.4046911]

>>4046849

[Anonymous No.4046914]

>>4046911
good shit thanks dude

[Anonymous No.4046975]

>>4046673
I don't think his perspective is bad, the ship is large and you can see a wave on the right side between the ship and the boat for example. Linework on the boat needs improvement though.

[Anonymous No.4046980]

>>4046877
>he fell for the hampton meme
KEK

[Anonymous No.4047045]

leyendecker study. did them with pencil then tried to color it digitally.

[Anonymous No.4047081]

>>4046849
sauce?

[Anonymous No.4047088]

>>4046771
thanks anon.


I am trying to mimic the style of eye on the right. Any tips ic?

[Anonymous No.4047114]

has anyone subbed to NMA and got the free art kit? mine just came in and its this chink brand named 'the road to legend' is this stuff any good?

[Anonymous No.4047117]

why is it even after drawing a skeleton and following it i feel like the proportions are off?
do i need to take a step back and look at it or am i just retarded

[Anonymous No.4047120]

>>4047117
are you........drawing the skeleton with proper proportions?

based on that image though you're jumping way ahead, you need to understand how to draw 3D forms first

[Anonymous No.4047124]

>>4046911
fuck that book is good

[Anonymous No.4047134]

>>4047120
i mean i think i am
shoulders a little wider than hips
elbows above waist
hands about mid thigh
and calves longer than thighs
right?

[Anonymous No.4047159]

>>4047134
fucking read loomis. you have no idea what proportions are, you're basically going "eyes somewhere on the head, two arms, two legs"

[Anonymous No.4047185]

How do I pick appealing color? especially on digital I feel lost trying to pick a color that works as the shadows or highlight to go with the midtones. I've just been using the pre set colors in clip studio but is there some sort of trick like picking up and to the right of the midtone in the color picker or something like that?

[Anonymous No.4047191]

>>4047185
holy crap bro maybe try more than 2 values

[Anonymous No.4047218]

>>4047191
I don't know how to pick colors that match the values. It feels much harder than working in grayscale.

[Anonymous No.4047229]

>>4046869
Draw the volume of the eyelids.

[Anonymous No.4047303]

still life

[Anonymous No.4047304]

reference

[Anonymous No.4047355]

>>4046002
pretty bad anon, pretty bad

[Anonymous No.4047366]

starting loomis today, placing features is a pain

[Anonymous No.4047371]

starting loomis heads, placing features in perspective is a pain

[Anonymous No.4047388]

>>4047355

[Anonymous No.4047399]

>>4047303
take your time and don't rush things
You should also take the value of the background into account, things appear brighter/darker depending on their surrounding values
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STLLy5miHDg
this video illustrates my point
I'm not sure how exactly you go about applying the values/rendering this
but I think having a value scale from 1 to 10, and deciding what the value of each plane is, is the best way to go about it.
also, on a more general note, what is the purpose of this study? Did you rush it while doing it? It seems very rushed, how long did it take you?
It is very important to take it slow while drawing, don't try to "get it over with". If you catch yourself rushing things, STOP don't try to finish it. Just stop, take a break, and either come back to it later or leave it. Better to have something good, but unfinished than finished, but bad.

[Anonymous No.4047417]

Eh?

[Anonymous No.4047422]

>>4047114
well heres what i came up with using chink shit. i think i like derwent charcoal pencils better but the sharpener they give is neato

[Anonymous No.4047423]

>>4047371
Not bad anon. Avoid expressions for now becaus ethey distort your tracking :)

[Anonymous No.4047500]

>>4046449
Other fingers are under the skirt.

>>4046771
Why tho.

[Anonymous No.4047509]

>>4047229
I see it now. Thanks you.

[Anonymous No.4047524]

>>4047422
Lllllllllooomis

[Anonymous No.4047525]

>>4046789
I dunno Anon that looks waaay better than what I could do.

[Anonymous No.4047531]

>>4047185
shadows should be darker, more saturated, and closer to blue, highlights should be brighter, less saturated, and closer to red

[Anonymous No.4047537]

Need help with boxes I know line work is not good please help me with perspective.

[Anonymous No.4047544]

>>4047537
What help do you want? Perspective rules are mathematically accurate, perspective is either right or wrong, you can measure it with a ruler.

[Anonymous No.4047548]

>>4046771
I don't have anywhere to go other than this place

[Anonymous No.4047549]

>>4047544
Just draw it to the vanishing points with a different color than correct?

[Anonymous No.4047558]

>>4047524
its not THAT bad. the biggest things i got off arr the head tilt and added that extra fucking hair to the top

[Anonymous No.4047580]

Feedback? Been trying really hard to get a grip on this style.

[Anonymous No.4047582]

>>4047549
Draw the vanishing points first. Why would you try to draw perspective boxes freehand? Just draw the perspective lines and VPs then draw the boxes.

[Anonymous No.4047585]

>>4047582
Trying to get used to doing them from imagination for constructiom

[Anonymous No.4047591]

>>4045198
i dig the way you drew the legs. But don't sign your sketches, dude. That's pretentious

[Anonymous No.4047592]

>>4046771
Leave beg

[Anonymous No.4047594]

>>4046789
looks pretty good honestly but the yellow background is too 'clean' compared to your brush strokes

[Anonymous No.4047595]

I really need help from someone:

In DRSB, on page 130, what the actual FUCK is she trying to explain?

I've been reading the instructions over and over again, but I just can't understand what the fuck she's trying to say.

Is she just trying to explain basic measuring with your pencil, or is it something else?

[Anonymous No.4047596]

EVERYBODY LEAVE!!!

[Anonymous No.4047599]

xcvxcvzxcvzxcv

[Anonymous No.4047634]

>>4046518
dont worry about buying the best paints. oil paints are simple they are just pigment and linseed oil at its very basic so the only difference you will get between brands is the additives which extends/shortens drying time and negates the natural yellowing over years. things if you are a beginner you dont need to worry about, just buy affordable brands. they are already expensive as it is

you will need at the very least
brushes
linseed oil or liquin ( i use liquin )
turpenoid
paints, at the very minimum yellow ochre, ivory black, vermilion and titanium white. with those 4 colors you can mix a lot but not super bright colors.
gesso/matte acrylic medium
canvas/canvas board
easel. i made mine out of a pizza box. very cheap and easy.

[Anonymous No.4047699]

>>4046002
She looks like a dwarf, too stocky and smol.
But apart from that it's actually not that bad.
Try laying down a center line for the entire lenght of the figure first and then judge your measurements based on that, to contain your figure.

[Anonymous No.4047767]

second time drawing a human face
first time trying crosshatch shading

[Anonymous No.4047772]

>>4047767
GMI

[Anonymous No.4047787]

I want to get into digital art (I'm 100% begginer in everything related to drawing, both traditional and digital).

I already got a Walcom One.

Do you guys know some FREE tutorials for begginers?? I will use photoshop...and it's no problem finding tutorials for the software, but where can I find free tutorials for the ART??

[Anonymous No.4047797]

>>4047787
In THE StICky???

[Anonymous No.4047798]

>>4047787
>never drawn before
>already has a tablet

you didn't even bother to find resources before for something that you will be invested over, yikes ngmi

[Anonymous No.4047807]

>>4047798
>invested for
depends. I started by buying a second-hand tablet for $40

[Anonymous No.4047809]

>>4047787
http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

[Anonymous No.4047835]

>>4047798

This tablet is very cheap in my country, and I already know for sure that I will need to do it digitally.
I don't have space for a traditional setup.

[Anonymous No.4047843]

>>4047787
FAMOUS ARTISTS COURSE
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8VO-JQCy3HgelpRajdPY3RSXzg?amp%3Busp=sharing&amp%3Btid=0B8VO-JQCy3HgZ0U3QkVvVm4wREE
0-6 should last you about a year
for painting/drawing digitally
use the HARD ROUND brush, play around with opacity and flow, until it feels nice to YOU

[Anonymous No.4047852]

>>4047835
traditional setup is literally a fucking PEN and PRINTER PAPER

[Anonymous No.4047862]

>>4044840
Will I ever make it, bros? I've been drawing for years

[Anonymous No.4047883]

How do I know when I should start practicing shading my figures?

[Anonymous No.4047884]

I've been drawing for years, digitally and I still struggle with my line weight. I got a new tablet a few months ago but I still can't figure out how to use effectively my pressure sensitivity option in Photoshop. I don't use SAI because I dislike the interface and I don't have CSP because I don't want to pay for it. (While I do pay for the whole Adobe license, PS,AI,An,Id and all the others for 30 bucks/month)

[Anonymous No.4047887]

>>4047884
how many levels of pressure does your tablet have? either it's really really low like 256 or some shit, or you're 200lb gorillaing the fuck out of the pen

[Anonymous No.4047889]

>>4047887
I don't even know. I didn't keep the box.

[Anonymous No.4047891]

>>4047889
what model is it?

[Anonymous No.4047892]

>>4047891
Intuos Draw Small

[Anonymous No.4047894]

>>4047892
CTL-4100

[Anonymous No.4047895]

just use sai retard

[Anonymous No.4047896]

>>4047892
either your brush's pressure curve is fucked or you're just hamfisting the pen. How pressure affects line weight obviously depends on the kind of effect you're going for, you don't always want lines that look like a single strand of hair, but the thinnest line that you'll want should correspond to the lightest amount of pressure that you can comfortably put on the pen.

[Anonymous No.4047897]

>>4047895
I don't want to use SAI because the interface sucks.

[Anonymous No.4047900]

>>4047897
don't listen to him, photoshop is fine, but remember that it's primarily a photo editing suite. if you want to use something that is explicitly for digital art (painting in particular), use Krita.

[Anonymous No.4047904]

>>4047883
Post your figures, we'll tell you.

[Anonymous No.4047914]

>>4047884
>I've been drawing for years
(x) Doubt

[Anonymous No.4047918]

>>4047900
I just stick to the default position for the pen settings. But I wasn't realizing that if I put it at 'doux/soft' I barely make a line and does a big line, while if it put it toward the other side, I have put much more pressure sure just to get a tiny line weight.

[Anonymous No.4047920]

>>4047904
>>4046849
I haven't done anything more "finished" than sketches in a long time, just getting back into the swing of things and drawing regularly. I feel like I'm starting to get a better understanding of anatomy and how the body actually works, but I feel like I'm hitting a brick wall and without the added sense of form from lighting, I can't depict the forms adequately. Am I barking up the wrong tree? Should I start seriously practicing linework before shading? Should I just keep practicing anatomy and construction for now?

[Anonymous No.4047923]

>>4047914
I did. Wasted many hours to draw stuff for /dbg/ & /ddg/ and /v/.

[Anonymous No.4047924]

>>4047918
You can adjust the pressure sensitivity in the driver software like that, but if you want better control you should adjust the pressure curve of individual brushes in your drawing software.

[Anonymous No.4047943]

>>4047924
Idk why, the pressure sensitivity for the eraser doesn't work (even though the icon for it is checked), while the pen tool sensitivity does work.

[Anonymous No.4047948]

still struggling to with construction/perspective. also was fed up with not knowing how to draw appealing hips/legs so im going to use references a lot more from now on

[Anonymous No.4047950]

>>4047045
tried coloring the other one

[Anonymous No.4048015]

Anyone else a complete beginner who can't decide on what course/book/resource to study and use to improve?

Man I suck

[Anonymous No.4048018]

>>4048015
nice blog nigger

[Anonymous No.4048026]

[Anonymous No.4048027]

>>4048018
Woah cool it with the racism bro.

[Anonymous No.4048056]

>>4044940
decided to color it, pretty limited with these markers but it'll do

[Anonymous No.4048064]

>>4048056
did some Vatican guards because they're too cool for their own good, one on the left was a more stiff and precise attempt, right I just jumped straight in more sketch-like

I'm not trying to deconstruct anything so I'm not sure how useful it is to just draw what I find cool from observation, who knows

[Anonymous No.4048093]

>>4046254
Don't trace the outlines of whatever it is you meed to trace. Instead build the forms right in top of it in photoshop, or tracing paper. Then when you can understand the forms and their vabishing points from putting them on top of the image, draw it on a blank piece of paper. This should really only be used if you want to make the human figure out of boxes, and for real complicated mechanical stuff. Remember you always want to see through every form, so make sure if there's an antenna on both sides, but one isn't visible you still draw that antenna that isn't visible so you can be able to feel the entire form and draw it from memory later on.

[Anonymous No.4048100]

trying to copy every drawing in the hampton book (minus the first few pages), I'll try and do some of my own once I finish the first chapter

[Anonymous No.4048152]

gave this a go too.
had fun even though I kept messing up the chest and right leg.

>>4047948
You're crushing it my man.

[Anonymous No.4048174]

goddamn hands, blegh
feet too

[Anonymous No.4048177]

>>4047399
>what is the purpose of this study?
To do something I haven't done in a long time: paint.
>Did you rush it while doing it?
Most likely
>how long did it take you?
I wasn't keeping track, but if I had to give a rough ball-park estimate, I'd say maybe about an hour or maybe two hours.

[Anonymous No.4048189]

>>4047591
>don't sign your sketches, dude. That's pretentious.
>just says "female", the subject that's being drawn

[Anonymous No.4048223]

I know this will sound shitposty or rude but why are so many people focused on construction and perspective when they can't draw from life or reference first? Learning to construct skulls, heads, faces, bodies, etc. in different perspectives should come after you can already draw them correctly first. Why not use a digital doll or a real desk-size one and place that in different positions and draw that first until you're comfortable and know what the objects look like?

(I'm talking about the realistic stuff, not deliberately stylized etc.)

[Anonymous No.4048234]

>>4048223
I'm in a similar quandary where I'm not sure whether to keep drawing from reference and relying on observation or attempt to deconstruct stuff
I think most people, myself included, want to create their own characters and such, and it's hard to find a perfect reference of your OC or whatever so you have to invent it, which means learning figures and construction

[Anonymous No.4048332]

>>4048015
Get rid of symbolism drawing first, holy fuck am I immediately improving. The sticky is good shit anon.

[Anonymous No.4048422]

I'm trying really hard /beg/ but I need help and advice in general.
Its Cheetah from Batman, no bully

[Anonymous No.4048423]

>>4048152
Thats Ethan's Jew girlfriend isnt it?

[Anonymous No.4048424]

3rd week of drawing. How did I do? I have no idea how to color or make the shirt look like a sweater. Any tips on how to do that? I feel pretty shitty about this picture but this was honestly the first time I had fun drawing ever since I picked up this hobby.

[Anonymous No.4048435]

>>4048422
the pussy should not be on the front of her body, it should be on the bottom. the foreshortening on the forearm on the left side looks off. the knees in general are just wrong (they look like bony protrusions) and the clavicles make no sense. The lines that show the edge of the neck are in reality the sternocleidomastoid muscles, which connect the mastoid process (bony lump behind your ear) to the sternum (ribcage keystone) around where the clavicles hinge.

From here I would really just study a fuck ton of anatomy. Proko's videos are pretty good for that. Start with the abdominal muscles and obliques, then the latissimus dorsi and serratus anterior, then the limbs. But before muscles, fix the bones (kneecaps and clavicles)

[Anonymous No.4048439]

>>4048435
I dont know what I'm doing with that foreshortened arm to be honest, I knew it was off, but I dont know how to make it on. I'll try and fix everything else, its just a nightmare trying to emulate the style of the character with human anatomy

Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4048479]

day 2 of hampton. slow progress but tomorrow ill do more

[Anonymous No.4048509]

Why does she practically kiss the viewer?

[Anonymous No.4048525]

i've never been able to figure out these little green contours. as far as i know it's just obliques but since those are just sheets they don't really have any form of their own, don't have anything to wrap around between the pelvis and ribs so i can never tell exactly what the contours should look like despite knowing that there should be a depression of some sort.
in references this area seems to vary greatly depending on the person as well as minute angular differences. i can't determine any rhyme or reason.

[Anonymous No.4048529]

Western artist say to not trace, but Japan artists do. So is it still wrong?

[Anonymous No.4048535]

>>4048529
There's more than one way to get good at drawing, and for the record I've seen plenty of western artists say to trace the works of artists you admire

[Anonymous No.4048541]

>>4048529
no rules just tools

[Anonymous No.4048542]

>>4048479
gmi
>>4048509
because her jaw is way distended and her lips are pushing out from her face at an angle that doesn't match the rest of it
>>4048525
they look good how you have them there at least

[Anonymous No.4048547]

>>4048525

[Anonymous No.4048554]

>>4048547
>>4048525
it is my understanding that the iliotibital band effectively sutures the skin to the greater trochanter, causing the skin to form a divet in that area, particularly when bending to the side. there's a lot of fat in the area that can affect the shape too, though if the figure isn't super fat it won't really come into play all that much.

[Anonymous No.4048576]

it feels so much better drawing whitout pen pressure

[Anonymous No.4048580]

[Anonymous No.4048620]

>>4048580

[Anonymous No.4048632]

[Anonymous No.4048648]

>>4048547
>>4048554
thank you for the help guys. i feel like i'm another foot closer to becoming a hentai god. there's a lot of variety in bodies to explore and i understand it a bit better now

[Anonymous No.4048672]

>>4048422
Pussies aren't positioned like that.

[Anonymous No.4048706]

>>4044840
fur is hard

[Anonymous No.4048707]

>>4048706
ref

[Anonymous No.4048724]

I tried to draw Hisoka from memory without any references with a 30 min time limit. Here are my results.

What are some resources on body construction and anatomy that I can use so I can draw arms without looking like an autist.

[Anonymous No.4048727]

Anon artist critique pls :'^)

[Anonymous No.4048728]

>>4048727
Reference

[Anonymous No.4048735]

Did I nail down the "cool sketch" aesthetic or is it just a mess? Also I made it blue to cheat your vision, I think it hides the messy-ness better than pure black

[Anonymous No.4048738]

>>4047950
Good shit dude. Not much I can say. Leyendecker is a god and you did great in the study.

[Anonymous No.4048739]

>>4048174
I've seen worse. Keep practicing and try to construct using smaller bits.

[Anonymous No.4048750]

Leyendecker is gay

[Anonymous No.4048755]

>>4048735
Cute! The blue sketch is ok anon, but the hatching is a mess, train more cross-hatching and come back to this

[Anonymous No.4048756]

>>4048580
You may have created a meme Anon

[Anonymous No.4048762]

>>4048724
Looking at this again I can't help but feel physically disturbed with how bad the arm is. Particularly where it connects to the torso.

[Anonymous No.4048763]

>>4048672
wtf I know the person who made this picture

[Anonymous No.4048765]

Is it important to buy sketching pencils? Anything you wish you had when you started drawing? I just started today with a sketchbook I bought but I'm using a regular mechanical pencil right now, so I have nothing else at the moment.. please help recommend some things I should buy

[Anonymous No.4048834]

>>4048765
You don't need anything else when you're starting out, but I recommend buying a few pencils of different hardness just to practice line variation. The softer the pencil the wider range of line thickness (and value when shading) it has, but also the harder it is to control. I also recommend buying a cheap ballpoint pen (try it out in the store, see if it's smooth and also see that it doesn't leave random spots of ink).

[Anonymous No.4048842]

Other than his shoes/legs what else looks extra fucked?

[Anonymous No.4048848]

>>4048727
It's very cool overall.
However have another look at the legs, the one in front in particular.
Looks like you couldn't commit to something more faithful to the ref vs. modifying it, so you ended up with a mishmash that doesn't really work well.
Upper leg seems broken and the lower leg comes out at an angle that would be either impossible or extremely painfull.
On the other leg, the one that's behind, the only thing that bothers me is that the foot seems dislocated at the ankle and it's sliding a bit too far forward.

[Anonymous No.4048894]

>>4048756
https://youtu.be/vWEgZ3gBoF8

[Anonymous No.4048910]

>>4048842
the perspective is messed up in a way that the head doesn't looks like it matches the body.
the face is completely deformed, the eyes are sloping in the wrong direction
The upper body and neck area need to be curved a bit
the right arm is not attached to the body at the correct place, too high
both arms are too short

See pic

[Anonymous No.4048912]

>>4048910
wrong pic

still pay attention to the torso and arm insertion points.

[Anonymous No.4048921]

>>4048910
>>4048912
Not /beg/ please leave.

[Anonymous No.4048923]

>>4048921
are you stupid ? he's critiquing another anon

[Anonymous No.4048941]

>>4048921
Oh man youre dumb

[Anonymous No.4048945]

>>4048921
he posted vilpu works

[Anonymous No.4048952]

The difference between the novice and the master is that the master has failed more times than the novice has tried

[Anonymous No.4048965]

>>4048952
This makes me feel better, I think I have a Master's soul. I'm still a /beg/ but I keep drawing and failing and trying a lot.

[Anonymous No.4048972]

flicked through Vilppu's drawing manual, looks very good but is it too advanced for a /beg/? is Hampton's work better suited?

I can't decide what to focus on, finishing Keys to Drawing or going through Drawabox, and I'm not sure what to do for human forms and such either since there's so many options

[Anonymous No.4049000]

>>4048972
You can stop keys to drawing when you understand the concept. Which is drawing what you see and not resort to symbols.
Then go through draw a box until lesson 3. Skip the texture exercise in lesson 2 tho.
After that you have find yourself which drawing method speaks to you. Loomis and Vilppu didn't work for me but I have great success with Huston. imo video lessons are easier to follow and understand so check out the video resource thread.

[M No.4049035]

Did this a bit ago but sure how I feel about it. Its strongarm from Transformers. I at least know it's better than my last attempt. Could anybody critiquing this one?

I'm a post some other of my art in a little bit.

[M No.4049045]

>>4049035
Previous attempt.

[M No.4049047]

>>4049045
Somehow my pictures turn sideways...

[M No.4049054]

Dr Fate and Iron Man helmet.

[M No.4049058]

A version of batman that similar to the injustice variation.

[Anonymous No.4049137]

self-portrait

[Anonymous No.4049153]

Bought a 2B pencil, a 0.3 fineliner, an eraser, a sharpener (not in the picture), some "drawing paper" (couldn't find non-white anywhere) and a clipboard. Picked the cheapest non-absolute shit stuff I could and spent 9 USD total.

[Anonymous No.4049166]

>>4049000
Someone with access to the sticky document, please put this sort of information on it. I was wondering about this yesterday.

[Anonymous No.4049170]

>>4048724
Check the document in the sticky. There is a section about anatomy and gesture

[Anonymous No.4049174]

>>4048509
Reminded me of this.

[Anonymous No.4049206]

tried to get a sense of volume and understand shapes in a 3d space

[Anonymous No.4049207]

>>4049206
some bodies as well

[Anonymous No.4049266]

>>4047595
She's telling you to go read Keys to Drawing instead

[Anonymous No.4049267]

Tried my hand at a value study, what do I need to work on?

[Anonymous No.4049275]

Keys to Drawing Exercise (1-E)
Why the fuck doesn't this look right? Do I need to go back and redo the symbol drawing exercises?

[Anonymous No.4049277]

>>4049275
* photo was taken after drawing, angle not exact

[Anonymous No.4049281]

>>4049275
Practice ellipses, drawabox.com has some good guides on that. Also Peter Han's lessons, but Keys to Drawing will address ellipses at a later point.

[Anonymous No.4049294]

>>4049275
[complete newbie here]
I think you just need to pay attention to the reference lines and to measure things against each other.

[Anonymous No.4049339]

>tfw cant stop applying the soulless / soulful meme when comparing my art to others'
it's too fucking accurate, people who are technically "worse" than me manage to make drawings so much more appealing

[Anonymous No.4049388]

>>4048848
Thank you for the critique anon, next time I will commit to the reference and halt any autistic urge to modify the model. With your advice in mind I'll post an update soon.

[Anonymous No.4049391]

>>4049267
I'd say proportions and controlling line weight.
Also do another study and this time follow Proko senpai's mantra, K.i.S.S (Keep it Simple Stupid) and use only two values when doing a /beg/ value study.

[Anonymous No.4049404]

>>4049391
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.4049689]

>>4048910
>>4048912
Thanks for the input man, I honestly need to work on construction and proportions all around. Especially how musculature actually clings to the skeleton.

[Anonymous No.4049865]

Tfw u know that you have to come back to looms

[Anonymous No.4049871]

is it normal to not just plateau, but to recede a little in quality of work? i've been drawing every day but the past three days my work has taken a nose dive and i've gotta admit it's really getting to me.

[Anonymous No.4050266]

>>4049871
i think that is normal with any skill you are trying to learn. taking a 2-3 day break might help.

[Anonymous No.4051112]

gesture drawing from reference focusing on form

[Anonymous No.4051122]

practicing overlapping forms with figures from imagination