Alternative Art/Stylization Thread

[Anonymous No.4028756]

Previous: >>4013699

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

[Anonymous No.4028772]

>>4028756
Last /alt/ thread was so good because OP attracted the butterflies to the flowers, but now you posted shit and all we are going to get are flies and faggots

[Anonymous No.4028780]

>>4028756
dios mio

[Anonymous No.4028786]

>>4028772
>My work wasn't posted as the OP and it doesn't adhere to my tastes so it must be shit!
Nobody cares what's on the OP image, if anything those who make a big deal about something as minute as what's on the OP are usually the ones who are here to look for something to complain about and shitpost. Go back to copying your "anime studies" and following how to draw anime tutorials.

[Anonymous No.4028798]

>>4028786
>Go back to copying your "anime studies"
Jokes on you - I don’t draw so you can’t even ask me to pyw

[Anonymous No.4028800]

>>4028798
Joke's on you, we don't have to.

[Anonymous No.4028863]

The gun's holding me up. Probably going to study it.

[Anonymous No.4028868]

If someone doesnt make a porn thread soon then I'll have no choice but to dump my shit here.
You brought this on yourselves, fags.

[Anonymous No.4028879]

>>4028786
>Nobody cares what's on the OP image
ill admit i was tempted to post some whipped up dung.

[Anonymous No.4028914]

>>4028756
why
why would you make this one the OP

[Anonymous No.4028935]

>>4028868
Porn threads are redundant, just use this one.

[Anonymous No.4028939]

>>4028935
Don't tell him that you fucking idiot.
We use porn threads as a containment general to keep all those degenerates out.

[Anonymous No.4028940]

>>4028939
There was a strawpoll a while ago when the redditor ruined threads about this. Majority were ok with it or didn't care. Stop saying "we".

[Anonymous No.4028944]

>>4028939
Are you the sperg that goes on a shitstorm at the sight of a flat chest?

[Anonymous No.4028964]

trying out some advice I read from a different thread.

[Anonymous No.4029002]

>>4028964
You're symbol drawing

[Anonymous No.4029060]

[Anonymous No.4029074]

Feeling very inspired by yesterday's sunset.

[Anonymous No.4029082]

>>4029074
U mean yesterday’s community day?

[Anonymous No.4029085]

[Anonymous No.4029086]

>>4028756
Itd probably be better if I just cel-shaded.

>>4028863
What kind of brush did you use to blend?

[Anonymous No.4029089]

>>4029082
Both.

[Anonymous No.4029091]

[Anonymous No.4029093]

>>4029091
Space Ranger
>>4029085
Demon alien woman wha

[Anonymous No.4029096]

>>4028756
The cover for a webcomic im working on

[Anonymous No.4029099]

>>4029096
Don't.

[Anonymous No.4029103]

>>4029085
This give me a Dr Seuss meets Lovecraft vibe

[Anonymous No.4029104]

>>4029099
Dont what?

[Anonymous No.4029206]

>>4028772
five hours in and anon is on the dot so far
is /ALT/ actually /barely intermediate/?

[Anonymous No.4029208]

>>4029206
Post what you think in this thread isn't trash.

[Anonymous No.4029216]

>>4029104
Don't make Steve Harvey your protagonist.

[Anonymous No.4029221]

>>4029206
What difference would the OP image make? /ic/ is a small group of you faggots with barely any traffic with the occasional DAtard and tumblretta that wanders outside of their hugbox.

[Anonymous No.4029224]

>>4029208

>>4028863 is serviceable and i like the attempted rendering on >>4029091
i guess >>4029096 is commendable for attempting something complex, even if it's beyond their skill level

[Anonymous No.4029262]

Beyond skill level man Here
>>4029224
Damn, You pinpointed me perfectly dude I like the way you say that man

[Anonymous No.4029271]

>>4028756
Godamnit op why did you make my artwork as the op, i had like 2 replies, even I know it isn't the best nor the more stylized drawing of the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.4029274]

Still /beg/ as fuck, but we getting there. 2-3 weeks apart.
70% of my time I use for studying fundies, the rest I attempt to copy my favorite artists (Nomura, Kojima, Amano and a few more)

[Anonymous No.4029279]

>>4029274
Close look on my second drawing. My camera quality is shite

[Anonymous No.4029280]

>>4029274
Nice improvement anon

[Anonymous No.4029283]

>>4029271
>Posts on /ic/ to receive feedback
>Complains about receiving feedback

[Anonymous No.4029284]

>>4029280
Thanks! Still got a long way to go but I appreciate the kind words.
You guys got any advice in order to properly copy a style? Right now I'm just kind of eyeballing it but my "mind's eye" is weak at getting the proportions/angles just right

[Anonymous No.4029286]

Reposting because dead thread. Doing this should be more common, like the LR art from Dokkan or Legends. Though it probably sets the bar too high in social media, followers would expect you to do this with every piece you upload if it becomes your gimmick. Not like it's hard to change the light and stitch it together but it'd get tiresome.

[Anonymous No.4029291]

>>4029224
I agree with most of this, but would add >>4029060

[Anonymous No.4029305]

>>4029086
soft round, gradients, SAI watercolor brush

[Anonymous No.4029306]

>>4029291
>>4029060 is technically passable but those proportions are gross

[Anonymous No.4029308]

>>4029306
Thats just like, your opinion man.

[Anonymous No.4029312]

>>4029308
this whole chain is about opinions you brainlet

[Anonymous No.4029316]

>>4029283
Im complaining precisely because i didn't get feedback, i got like 2 replies, from which 1 of them was feedback.
I understand why everyone is complaining too. I would comfortably post here like always if a better thumbnail was up.

[Anonymous No.4029318]

>>4029312
Its a meme you dip.
Anyways, I do appreciate that you at least consider it technically passable. I would be open for suggestions on improving it beyond "make her less thicc".

[Anonymous No.4029323]

>>4029085
the biggest problem that I have is that the arms dont have joints, it looks like three bones in a sack of skin, other than that nice concept

>>4029086
pink lips like that dont look too good on characters with a darker skin tone, instead have it more of a neutral color or less saturated color

>>4029096
either adjust the face/neck or the body because the "steve harvey" has his neck broken

[Anonymous No.4029327]

>>4029318
well, as stated, the proportions seem like the biggest problem to me. other notable issues are the perspective on the handbag/phone and lazy hands. i'd consider pushing your values a bit more, too

[Anonymous No.4029341]

What a shitshow of a thread. Fuck all of you.

[Anonymous No.4029342]

>>4029341
pyw crab

[Anonymous No.4029357]

>>4029342
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.4029382]

>>4029342
now post yours faggtron

[Anonymous No.4029386]

>>4029382
Hate how this became a meme on /biz/

[Anonymous No.4029416]

My suffering is endless

[Anonymous No.4029418]

>>4029416

[Anonymous No.4029449]

This is a part of a commission I'm working on, I wanted to ask if you guys think this is an appealing style for painting hair? I think it's really pretty and soft looking but it could just appear lazy

[Anonymous No.4029451]

>>4029449
She's cross-eyed.

[Anonymous No.4029456]

>>4029451
Fuqq you're right

[Anonymous No.4029473]

exhaustion. I don't think I am able to draw action webcomic in a reasonable pace with my day job.

[Anonymous No.4029477]

>>4029473
That has an amazing feel but I also feel you. I don't even have a job but drawing comics requires more effort than I can put.

[Anonymous No.4029485]

>>4029002
is that not the point of this thread?

[Anonymous No.4029493]

>>4029473
if you cant do it what hope is there for me?

[Anonymous No.4029494]

>>4029060
This is great
Don't listen to this asshole >>4029306

[Anonymous No.4029499]

>>4029473
simplify your artsyle so that it's easier to churn out pages or update once every few weeks dude.
Forcing yourself to draw after wageslaving all day is only going to have a negative impact on your drawings quality.

[Anonymous No.4029531]

>>4029499
Yeah, I stopped trying to draw on work nights because its just unproductive, and since I am constantly falling asleep I wasn't enjoying the process very much. So I only do it on my days off now and my work days I only do some scanning and house keeping stuff.

>>4029493
Well, I don't know what your circumstance is, but I will say that I am a incredibly unfocused person, and I picked up too many hobbies and started too many projects, and was incredibly undisciplined both with what I work on and with my spare time. I will work on something for a few months and if something else catch my interest, I'll drop it and work on the other thing instead, when I was bored I will cycle to something else. So I rarely putout finish products for the past 15 years. I also don't advertise them, plan was to do that after I finish something, but since i never finishes anything, I don't promote them. promotion of your product is kind of a full time job by itself, but its something you gotta learn to do otherwise you are pissing into the wind, and I think it took me too long to do that. I have a lot short comings, and sometimes is not just about how well you draw...I think I draw ok but you gotta network and get yourself out there.

>>4029477
thanks. Yeah, sometimes is rough to really appreciate how much work comic is, since you don't really examine individual panels and pages very closely before moving on in a regular reading.

[Anonymous No.4029558]

>>4029323
thanks dude, joints ate completely out my range (at least accurate ones)

[Anonymous No.4029567]

Did abit more on this

[Anonymous No.4029579]

Bejita

[Anonymous No.4029586]

Still teaching myself blending/painting/texturing/basically everything. What a difficult process.

[Anonymous No.4029593]

>>4029579
This is so charming haha, made me smile
>>4029586
Keep working anon! I really like the texture on her shoulder pad

[Anonymous No.4029617]

>>4029593

Thanks. I really enjoy figuring out these textures by hand.

[Anonymous No.4029638]

>>4028756
lel awful image, OP. Did you made this?

[Anonymous No.4029645]

>>4029531
Fellow wagecuck here, do you not draw on workdays at all? I'm trying to see if I could sneak in a few hours of drawing time when I get home but I'm always too tired

[Anonymous No.4029648]

>>4029579
I like the cartoony style, Anon.
I drew these and I'm going to look at how to draw more older characters like Betty Boop.

[Anonymous No.4029678]

>>4029645
>>4029531
draw before work cause youre full of energy when you wake up if you sleep at a good hour. wake up a few hours earlier and draw, get some exercise etc.

[Anonymous No.4029690]

>>4029645
I do for fun, just nothing that requires my attention for hours. I wouldn't be able to stay awake that long anyway. A lot of times I just zoned out on youtube and lost track of time...

Another way I do it is to sleep first after finishing some house keeping , and wake up and draw in the few hours between getting out of bed and going to work, but that can be risky at on the end of a long day, so I don't know if I can recommend it.

I tried split my sleep where I sleep a few hours, wake up and draw, and go back to catch up to sleep, but almost always, I wasn't able to go back to sleep so I get stuck with that 4.5 hours of sleep. Its potentially dangerous because I have long driving commute.

I also try drinking a energy drink at the last 1/4 of my shift, but its effect can be unpredictable for some reason, sometimes It keep me just long enough so I can draw something for fun, but sometimes it keeps me awake for too long and I couldn't get enough sleep for the next shift.

Either way if i am going to stay up after work and draw, I'll probably draw something that's most fun to me, slender women with big boobs and robots.

>>4029678
I work 10 hours per day, night shift, my commute is an additional 1 hour 40 minute minimum. So I do prefer to sleep a full night/day(?) right up until an hour before I have to depart for work. Although I think my circumstances might be a bit extreme. If I work regular 8 hours and less of an commute then I might be able to manage it a little better. The upside is that I get 3 day weekends on most weeks.

[Anonymous No.4029698]

It wasn't even that long ago when at least semi-decent artists came here. What happened?

[Anonymous No.4029708]

>>4029698
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4029710]

>>4029690
Security guard?

[Anonymous No.4029715]

>>4029698

t. nodraws

[Anonymous No.4029719]

>>4029710
inbound customer service B2B.

[Anonymous No.4029765]

>>4029698
Redditor fag and crabs drove them away

[Anonymous No.4029845]

>>4029638
Nah its my artwork >>4029271 and I too dont like that its thw op image.

[Anonymous No.4029848]

>>4029531
>>4029473
blog? i would love to read your comics

[Anonymous No.4029896]

>>4029765
There are still some here.

[Anonymous No.4029911]

>>4029896
Just lurking most of the time

[Anonymous No.4029963]

any tips on hair

[Anonymous No.4030110]

Drew this frog just to put myself in the mindset to pump out some art for people

[Anonymous No.4030126]

>>4028863
Very nice shapes. Got a blog?

[Anonymous No.4030158]

>>4030110
your frogs are really cute anon

[Anonymous No.4030164]

>>4030110
Cute frog boy glad you're drawing him.

He looks off balance, the stick should have the bottom pointed away and the top towards him if he is leaning into it

[Anonymous No.4030233]

>>4029323
Idk what it is but I just really like that painting friend, it is very nice looking.

[Anonymous No.4030347]

Is she cute friends

idk if it's the dunning-kruger effect or not but I think this turned out nicely for my second attempt at painting. The lighting was hard.

[Anonymous No.4030400]

>>4030347
you're symbol drawing. But keep up with your work

[Anonymous No.4030420]

>>4030400
are you high?
>If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning
what cartooning isnt symbol drawing?

[Anonymous No.4030424]

>>4030400
I see, thank you friend. I should probably work on my eyes more to diversify the look of them.

[Anonymous No.4030426]

>>4030347
the face is flat. you arent just symbol drawing but symbol "lighting." the eyesockets, space under the nose, bottom of top lip, etc have depth, and that is shown by how light effects the form. study some portrait refs using 2-3 values anon! keep it up!

[Anonymous No.4030427]

>>4030426
Oh alright! Thank you, I will be sure to do some portrait value studies in the near future.

[Anonymous No.4030430]

This is referenced from a kpop image I found on pinterest, but with my own characters. I like the style of realistic ish body`s and stylized heads. Trying my best to not have it look uncanny and give it soul.

[Anonymous No.4030452]

"My programming is versatile in over 2,371 forms of dismemberment"

[Anonymous No.4030515]

>>4030452

Stupid robot you can't dismember with a flamethrower.

[Anonymous No.4030537]

>>4030430
Cute stuff. Please gib blog anon

[Anonymous No.4030590]

[Anonymous No.4030652]

Coming along.

[Anonymous No.4030746]

>>4030652
Her balance is off

[Anonymous No.4030770]

>>4029074
I'm going to make this into a pin. I think having his arm raised is necessary for the flow of the silhouette, but I can't figure out the best way to pose the hand.

I'm trying to imply he's doing the Earthquake move with the palm facing down like this, as if he's about to strike the ground. It still doesn't seem optimal though.

[Anonymous No.4030834]

>>4030590
i like it!!
>>4029963
i would recommend looking at real life references and see how hair flows. I think kpop idols are great inspiration and references for hair!

[Anonymous No.4031023]

>>4030770
>>4029074
having the head fins meet with the top of the eyes and having the eyes being bright and open are important design features of swampert. Without you taking this into account it looks wrong.This is the biggest thing I'm noticing.

His eyes don't have to be fully open but big and bright should be the general shape. The eyebrows you added shouldn't be there, but if you insist, they should at least not be as large as they are.
IMO you should just figure out a way to connect the fins to the eyes in a natural way. It doesn't look like a swampert or an amphibian the way it is.

His snout , jaw, and nose also don't look amphibian at all, they look like a cartoon dinosaur. In both your swampert and frog photo the nose and jaw don't jut out, the eyes are more forward, the lips are spread wide, the nose bridge is very subtle and indicated mostly with lighting, and there isn't as much movement freedom in the lips as you drew. Look at your source images more and take reference from them, don't just draw a generic non-mammal head.

I like how you drew the body, it looks soft, squishy, and like they belong in the water. You shouldn't have added the random "fur" on the arms, head, and legs. This ruins the softness and makes it look even less like an amphibian/swampert. Look at texture of amphibians and add detail in those places instead of what you did. The tail is coo tho l I like how it's paired with the pose.

[Anonymous No.4031029]

some environmental/chracter design doodles i did for fun

[Anonymous No.4031079]

>>4031023

I appreciate you taking the time to type this critique. However I'm going for a mix of a frog and turtle, which is why a lot of features read as reptilian. I was only referencing that frog for feet/toe placement.

I wasn't super sure on the little spikes either. This and the head is largely based on an alligator snapping turtle. I will take into account how the crest things meet his eyes. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.4031130]

>>4030770
>>4031079
why does pokemon attract so much off-model fanart cancer

[Anonymous No.4031144]

>>4031130
pyw

[Anonymous No.4031174]

>>4031079
I think taking inspiration from a snapping turtle would be great for the "lips", beak tip, and how the jaw is able to open and what areas stay static.

You should take after amphibians for the nose bridge not make it bulbous so it can read more as swampert. His nose area is smooth with a subtle bump and leading into a beak tip (so like a frog/snapping turtle so good job).

I don't think the head reads as snapping turtle/frog it reads as furry dragon.

Also, look at the eyes of turtles, frogs, and swampert. None behave close to what you drew. I know the eye style (strong downward turned brow on almond eyes) is aesthetically pleasing when put onto any aggressive or strong animal, but the piece would be much, much better with eyes more fitting.

You can also achieve the streamline eye look while still making the eyes rounded, large, and bright like swampert. Just make the actual eyes defined as such and make the skin around the eyes fold in a way to make a streamline eyeliner effect that works with the eye shape.

It is hard to describe but does that make sense?

[Anonymous No.4031223]

[Anonymous No.4031283]

>>4030452
Love your staff, dude.

[Anonymous No.4031310]

>>4031223
>no corona
immediately worst drawing ever

[Anonymous No.4031433]

Going through this page surprisingly fast, trying for the old-school horror look with the creepy narrator
Top of her head is going to be covered by a stringy black cloth so I'm not too bothered by it

>>4029499
>>4029477
Easiest thing is to make drawing/studying your form of relaxation, just be mindful of overusing and resting your hand since I ended up with slight Tendonitis from it.
>>4029473
Really clean stuff anon, you seem to have a very streamlined process

[Anonymous No.4031486]

>>4031130
because on-model pokemon fanart is boring

[Anonymous No.4031572]

>>4031283
A man after my own heart :')

[Anonymous No.4031581]

[Anonymous No.4031601]

>>4031283
Nice!

[Anonymous No.4031602]

did a study from a recent kienan lafferty piece, i may tackle rendering tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4031714]

>>4031283
B I O N I C L E

[Anonymous No.4031736]

Slowly coming along

>>4030126
https://twitter.com/inkpleb

[Anonymous No.4031740]

>>4031736
I'm really liking this so far but I feel you should rethink the saturation of the colors. That super saturated red makes the desaturated cool shading on the skin look a bit lifeless, I think it might help if you made the skin shading a bit more saturated

[Anonymous No.4031745]

>>4031740
Thanks, glad you commented on that. It's something I've been fiddling with a lot, increasing the red, bringing it back down, hue shifting the light areas, etc. I kinda like it right now just for looking unusual and contrasting with the supersaturated hair but yeah it does zombie-ish. Still not sure what I'll settle on.

[Anonymous No.4031763]

>>4029216
Shit senpai im not from United Estates I dont give a fuck if you see a decrepit anchorman or whatever he is.

[Anonymous No.4031765]

Good?

[Anonymous No.4031767]

>>4031763
wtf i wrote F A M not sempai

[Anonymous No.4031776]

[Anonymous No.4031812]

>>4031767
How new are you?

[Anonymous No.4031826]

>>4030110
Looks really nice, but as the other anon said looks kind of off balance wise.

Imalsotheanonfromanotherthreadthatwantedtobefriendsisitalrightifiaddyouontwatter?

[Anonymous No.4031865]

>>4031602
I think it's very cute, anon.

[Anonymous No.4031956]

>>4029449
This looks so pretty anon

Do you have a blog?

[Anonymous No.4032112]

>>4031956
:D I do! Beholdnika on Instagram, thank you anon

[Anonymous No.4032162]

>>4030158
Thanks, anon. I'm a little tempted to design some more froggy friends and family for him.

>>4030164
>>4031812
Yeah, he is off balance. I based the pose off one I was doing in the mirror so I know it is possible, but I exaggerated it too much. I need to check these things more often when I work, but I've been lazy lately.
>Imalsotheanonfromanotherthreadthatwantedtobefriendsisitalrightifiaddyouontwatter?
Sure, m8. My handle is @Nessiefynn, my DMs should be open if you wanna chat.

[Anonymous No.4032212]

>>4030110
hey it's you! other than what the others have said to you, i'd also suggesto to work more on feet, especially the toes. While your hands work kinda well, feet seems kinda flat.
nicely done anyways.

[Anonymous No.4032225]

>>4031865
thnx i think ill try a different pose different from the ref

[Anonymous No.4032277]

>>4032162
Is this indoanon from the thread a few weeks back

[Anonymous No.4032293]

I slacked all day and got basically nothing done fug.

[Anonymous No.4032310]

>>4032293
Omg you are still working on this, it’s been like a week.

[Anonymous No.4032313]

>>4032310

I spend most of my day taking smoke breaks and shooting the shit with my roomates. I'm incredibly lazy. Also I keep having to teach myself things so it's prolonging this process.

[Anonymous No.4032326]

>>4032313
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.4032336]

>>4032326

How to stop being a lazy sack of shit and just actually paint the damn thing?

[Anonymous No.4032354]

>>4032293
Anon if I may suggest something, paint all the flat colors first and only then render.

[Anonymous No.4032360]

>>4032354

How the fuck do people render over flats. Values sure but I can think of no way to render other than to just either have a values layer or paint over the flats and painting over flats feels like chinese water torture I'd rather just paint the thing outright.

[Anonymous No.4032362]

>>4029286
If you're thinking in those dimensions you're automatically gonna accelerate beyond anyone else because you're thinking in terms of what kind of an effect your art has instead of just mindlessly re-drawing the same human body in different poses.

[Anonymous No.4032428]

>>4032336
Just stop pretending and find a new hobby.

[Anonymous No.4032431]

>>4032428

Anon my other hobby is shitposting here. You really want me to do that all day?

[Anonymous No.4032438]

>>4032431
if you enjoy it why not

[Anonymous No.4032441]

>>4032438

Well that's unexpected.

[Anonymous No.4032697]

Flats are done.

[Anonymous No.4032716]

>>4032428
have sex

[Anonymous No.4032743]

>>4032360
You could render over cel shading. The point of laying down flats first is that you get a full understanding of all the colors in the painting from the start. This helps you make sure the color scheme works from early on so you don't regret the colors of an area you've already spent hours painting when you see it in relation to the full piece. Plus, it helps you keep lighting consistent because you don't get tunnel vision while rendering.

[Anonymous No.4032758]

>>4032360
i found it easy to use flats as shadows and paint with light, it make it easier to decide what kind of mood i want to convey with the ambient light

[Anonymous No.4032975]

Roast me

[Anonymous No.4032983]

>>4032975
I mean that's not bad except the face and the head in general

[Anonymous No.4032990]

>>4032697
qt

[Anonymous No.4032992]

>>4032975
it's not awful

[Anonymous No.4033007]

>>4032975
face is gigantic compared to the head. Microcephalic.

[Anonymous No.4033009]

Basic shadows blocked in.

[Anonymous No.4033010]

>>4032716
Well, I have to say dilate now, right?

[Anonymous No.4033027]

>>4032975
Take this all with a grain of salt because it's done according to my own aesthetic sensibilities, but I think you need to work on your facial/head anatomy.
The nose/chin area seems very long, while the forehead area is small. This creates a less "cute" and attractive effect. Additionally the jaw protrudes a lot, which adds to the strangeness of the face, These features aren't impossible, but assuming you're going for a pretty/cute anime-esque look, you may want to give her a smaller, daintier chin area. I'd recommend trying to deconstruct the way your favorite artists draw heads so you can see how they put together an attractive, appealing face.

[Anonymous No.4033096]

[Anonymous No.4033102]

>>4031776
The blocky brush strokes against the flowy linework is really cool.

[Anonymous No.4033299]

>>4029848
@ac120rfw on twitter and "rococo" on smackjeeves.

[Anonymous No.4033365]

It’s not done yet but I’m not sure finishing will fix the problems I have with it
Any ideas on what I should work on?

[Anonymous No.4033416]

>>4033365
Well flipping it over would be a good start

[Anonymous No.4033534]

>>4033299
How did you learn to do perspective ?

[Anonymous No.4033548]

[Anonymous No.4033757]

>>4029648
What could I do to make my cartoons look nicer?
Just practice and copy frames of animation?

[Anonymous No.4033766]

>>4033757
Preston Blair's resources on cartoons would probably be a good start

[Anonymous No.4033839]

>>4033548
Slightly terrifying
I see the mouth is smiling, but there's no squinting in the eyes to indicate that she's smiling

[Anonymous No.4033923]

45 min study

[Anonymous No.4033964]

>>4033299
This is very nice

stoodupandtookresponsibility/10

[Anonymous No.4034032]

[Anonymous No.4034083]

>>4033534
Hm, I don't know if you are implying I learned it wrong or just asking how I learned it. Although both this and previous post's example is basically one point perspective. The guidelines are curved by leveraging the arc of my elbow. The details in distant backgrounds are more fudged, in general depending on the shape of an object it might not have a single vanishing point so what you need to follow is the horizontal line or the eye level. I tend to tweak those detail until it "looks right", but you kind of need to know a little how it works. For more detail and technical approach I do recommend Perspective for comic book artist by David Chelsea, which is a good reference book in my opinion.

>>4033964
>stoodupandtookresponsibility
Thanks, I wanted to know what that is reference to.

[Anonymous No.4034161]

>>4033839
That’s the outcome I was hoping for :0 it’s my bad that I didn’t point it out in this post, but she was meant to look creepy and off putting. Thanks for the feedback

[Anonymous No.4034164]

>>4031776
blog? want to follow/be friends

[Anonymous No.4034205]

>>4034083
>I don't know if you are implying I learned it wrong or just asking how I learned it.
It's the latter . I always find your linework and details pleasing. Thanks for recommending the book I'll check it out

[Anonymous No.4034236]

>>4033009
ruined

[Anonymous No.4034719]

Why is it so easy to tell when anime-style art is drawn by a westerner?

[Anonymous No.4034725]

>>4034719
Japanese people want to be carbon copies of their inspirations. Western people are too individualistic and want to apply some personal touch to everything. That "touch" is usually enough to tell western anime artists apart from japs.

[Anonymous No.4034736]

>>4034719
I notice similar characteristic westerners have. Such as, thicker lineart, not weight control, stiffer bodies, lack of exaggeration or proportion control, when it comes to the shading it sometimes too hard or too soft. They usually don't go full anime and instead have this realism/anime hybrid style. Sure there are some nips that have the same mistakes, but in general that's most westerners.

[Anonymous No.4034753]

>>4034164

@acidvapor lets be pals

[Anonymous No.4034826]

Didn't draw non-fanart shit in like half an year, god bless.
>>4028863
Very nice shapes, try to be more lively with the shadows though (the skin ones in particular). They could use some saturating and color variety.

[Anonymous No.4034845]

i need to draw more delicious brown girls

[Anonymous No.4034916]

Good to be back

[Anonymous No.4034923]

>>4034916
>ck
this is ic you retard. why did you even write the name of the board on the art??

[Anonymous No.4034930]

>>4034923
I think that's a signature, anon

[Anonymous No.4034934]

oiran thing

[Anonymous No.4034940]

>>4034923
Good post frien!

[Anonymous No.4034950]

>>4034923
Isn't that a "G"?

[Anonymous No.4035167]

[Anonymous No.4035422]

>>4028756

any pointers on how to use screen tones would be greatly appreciated, dipping my toes for the first time

[Anonymous No.4035464]

>>4035422
Naf made a really useful post on screentones in CSP you might want to check out: https://twitter.com/y_naf/status/1153458223464296448

[Anonymous No.4035481]

I avoided shading the skin deliberately, I noticed that Junji Ito occasionally does that and thought it looked nice

[Anonymous No.4035488]

>>4035481
The lack of shading gives a pretty neat contrast.

Do you have a blog anon?

[Anonymous No.4035494]

>>4035488
Oh thanks anon! :] I’m @beholdnika on Instagram

[Anonymous No.4035913]

Working on a request for a friend, it's supposed to just be a sketch but I feel like I got a lot of stuff that needs work, and I kind of like it so I might color it

>>4032277
Yeah, that's me

>>4032212
Thanks anon. Yeah, those feet are really flat, I struggle with the forms of the feet a lot, especially on more unusual feet. I'll try to keep that in mind for next time around

[Anonymous No.4035954]

[Anonymous No.4036078]

bump.

[Anonymous No.4036087]

>>4036078
Must’ve been challenging to draw the skeletons, the poses are pretty stiff but I think this is cute still

[Anonymous No.4036092]

might as well upload this one as well

[Anonymous No.4036102]

>>4036092
Good job rendering the gold, do some drapery studies though- it doesn’t look like the fabric is accurately hanging off her body

[Anonymous No.4036110]

>>4034923
have a (you) my autistic fren

[Anonymous No.4036201]

[Anonymous No.4036226]

>>4031765
i wish that were meeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.4036230]

>>4036087
This, the poses are /beg/ tier dude, come on! You are better than this.

[Anonymous No.4036412]

>>4036230
all right friend,, I'll get on it

[Anonymous No.4036477]

>>4036201
looks fucking cool

[Anonymous No.4036553]

kanye portrait

>>4029418
angle of head/face looks flat-- the eye usually isnt that visible from such an angle

>>4030430
nj, really pretty lines. neck on left girl looks a bit odd and eyes of right girl are a biiit misaligned but those are minor things

>>4034934
this is gorgeous

[Anonymous No.4036717]

>>4035913
This is really cute <3

>>4035481
It looks very creepy, as in cool, if that's what you were going for, gj!

>>4035167
This is nice, hope to see it finished.
>>4034916
That looks really cool anon!

>>4034845
Are you tracing 3D models? That seems like a very boring thing to do.

>>4034826
This is nice anon!

>>4030430
Very cute!


Here is something I am working on. tfw can not draw hands :( gtg practice!

[Anonymous No.4036718]

>>4036717
whoops, posted wrong image, here is newer

[Anonymous No.4036742]

>>4029485
No? Stylization is not the same as symbol drawing, who told you that?

[Anonymous No.4036750]

>>4036717
That’s very pretty anon! :D
>it looks very creepy
Yeyyyy

[Anonymous No.4036764]

>>4036553
I feel like i shouldn't but I like it.

You flattened the nose though.

[Anonymous No.4036828]

>>4036718
progress
tfw CAN'T DRAW HANDS FAMALAND

[Anonymous No.4036886]

>>4036717
>tfw people think you're tracing 3d models
>all you do is throw down a couple shapes and go straight to rendering
Huh, that's a new one. This was intended to be a concept sheet, so most of the intention was to show the character in 3D sense, rather than create a dynamic illustration with exciting gestures so I can see how it comes off that way/

[Anonymous No.4036890]

>>4036102
How does I study drapery?
Would you just recommend studying long loose, clothing such as dresses and robes?

[Anonymous No.4036895]

>>4036890
Statues are pretty helpful for studying drapery

[Anonymous No.4036902]

Today's doodle

[Anonymous No.4036909]

>>4034032
Lovely work, don't know how it was left unnoticed. Neck to shoulder transition might be too rounded.

[Anonymous No.4036910]

>>4036890
Just draw fabric from clothes from photos and pay attention to to how it wraps around the figure. Also Drawing the Clothed Figure by Hannah Bradley has a good section on it, pic related.

[Anonymous No.4036990]

>>4028756
sketch of errol from Arena of Valor.quite edgy but pretty fun

[Anonymous No.4037031]

>>4036910
any mega for this book?
checked cgp, gfxpeer and the artbook thread and it's not there

[Anonymous No.4037033]

>>4036990
decided to add some quick values

[Anonymous No.4037046]

Looking for some general critique on my over all style and techniques.
This is a good example of what my usual stuff looks like. I might also post one of my lineless works for critique later.

[Anonymous No.4037048]

>>4037031
I sadly don't think there is one. I nabbed these images off the archives, but I only know about the book cause I own a copy
Here's the thread I found some relevant images from the book of: >>/ic/thread/3554769

[Anonymous No.4037220]

>>4036902
qt

>>4037033
>>4036990
very nice but I think you should make the background a bit lighter

>>4037046
you can't really critique style simply because everyone has their own preferences, but in that pic the neck looks broken bc it doesn't look like its turning

[Anonymous No.4037226]

[Anonymous No.4037381]

>>4037226
Study clothing and drapery, the face and hair are well done but his clothes look very stiff.

[Anonymous No.4037385]

>>4037226

>>4037381
yeah, i actually messed w/ it a lot after posting that

[Anonymous No.4037422]

>>4032975
Where can I start. Some things you can get away with by arguing style choices, but with too many flaws, the drawing will fall apart. Let's start with the head. Like other anons stated, the head is too big, especially the cheeks and jaw. Your slopes are suggesting that her face appears really swollen. Also the face isn't constrained, so it looks like you enlarged the face making the hairline/forehead inconsistent. Cramming the eyebrow and right eye on the edge without giving them enough dimensions make the eyes appear asymmetrical, but you're on the right track. Look at references of people at a quarter turn more. Ears are also big and not aligned right but you can get away with that.

The body I can tell you struggled with. A head is used to measure the general ratio of your character. Her chest is nearly non existent and her shoulders are way too shallow. They're nearly the width and height of the head dude. The hand that appears couldn't physically bend that way, especially at the angle you've put the arm. By hiding the other hand under, especially for gripping a bat, it immediately comes of as lack of confidence which is bad. That being said, the hand is drawn rather well. Your bat is also not in perspective and isn't straight.

You really need to work on drawing in perspective and imagining in 3D, on top of more anatomy study. Think of your eyes like a camera and what is above/below your line of vision. And please work on planning out your pieces ahead more.

[Anonymous No.4037433]

>>4034934
There are definite inconsistencies with the angle of the face and the direction of lines, and it nearly comes off as uncanny or at least like she's disturbed in a way. The rendering and color scheme are great though.

>>4035422
buy some screentones, scan them, use them

>>4037226
>>4037226
Clothes are very stiff, think of where clothes make contact or rest on parts of the body, it doesn't even have to be overkill just not as many straight lines. The second attempt is much better.

[Anonymous No.4038199]

just freehanded this, any pointers?

[Anonymous No.4038212]

>>4037033
That’s really cool anon

[Anonymous No.4038224]

>>4037046
that arm is glaringly wrong. the longer i stare the worse this gets. you see that line at the top of the arm? its implying that the arm is in front of the body. but since this is a shot from behind, the trap muscles would cover the shoulder. and that little divot line you put below her neck? thats completely made up. it actually looks like the pit of the neck, which is on her *front*, making this that much more confusing.

that head being turned that far around is also annoying. for her to be looking that far back, her torso would be twisting, which it isnt, so thats also creating bad perspective. speaking of the head, the part farthest away from us is completely round, implying no eye socket or anything. and if we compare both eyes with the perspective of the nose it makes no sense, but ill let it slide because maybe youre trying to abstract/"cartoon" those details.

and down to details that arent about drawing:
your values are all over the place, i cant tell you how to compose an image but fill a layer over it with black and set it to "color" mode to see how your values work, they are just whack (id focus my values to create contrast around the face)

your line color is bizarre, your lines themselves are lazy, and same with the coloring. look at the spikes on the tail (bleeding that much color?) or those beads in her hair (you CAN draw this, you just gave up). drop the sparkle effect brushes and the huge soft """aesthetic""" gradients and learn how to draw mang, then come back to this goofy aesthetic and do whatever you want without covering is up via effects and deviantart/pinterest tutorials.

[Anonymous No.4038227]

Would love some critique on what I could work on more, I’v been reading Preston Blair and the Famous Artist Cartoon Course.

[Anonymous No.4038236]

>>4038227
The point of Preston Blair is to get a good handle on turning forms in 3D space and your drawings look really flat. Don't just copy the drawings, actually try to construct them.

[Anonymous No.4038243]

>>4035481
you're gonna be god tier in a few years and there will almost certainly be a bunch of shitposting about you, just a heads up

[Anonymous No.4038260]

>>4036890
>>4036910
Michael Hampton's figure drawing book has a section on drapery too, although it's pretty short.
Should be in one of the mega folders in the artbook thread.

[Gus No.4038295]

I have returned with progress.

[Gus No.4038299]

>>4038295

[Gus No.4038300]

>>4038299

[Gus No.4038302]

>>4038300

[Anonymous No.4038324]

>>4038302
These are all fucking brilliant mate, they’re so immersive good job

[Anonymous No.4038330]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4038340]

>>4038302
Fucking incredible progress anon.

[Anonymous No.4038342]

>>4038243
That’s really motivational for me anon! I’ll keep working so I don’t disappoint you, thank you :] I’m prepared for the shitposting too >:]

[Anonymous No.4038350]

>>4037385
draw karala

[Anonymous No.4038373]

>>4038342
also, are you influenced by ayame kojima? some of your art reminds me of her work. your stuff feels very influenced by PS1 and PS2-era video game art in general

[Anonymous No.4038375]

>>4038199
I feel like hipsters would buy your shirt designs if you made them

[Anonymous No.4038380]

>>4038373
Yes! I’m very inspired by her, I’d love to come anywhere close to the way she evokes atmosphere in her work. And I’ve always loved the Silent Hill franchise so maybe I’ve been subconsciously trying to emulate that same kind of vibe? What you said is pretty spot on

[Anonymous No.4038412]

>>4038375
ballerina shirt designs?
not sure i understand.

[Anonymous No.4038418]

>>4038412
I mean, if you used the style you used for those sketches on shirt designs of some pretty girls in flowers with the quotes like “I may dress like a doll but that doesn’t give you the right to play with me,” 17 year old fashion models on Instagram will buy the whole stock

[Anonymous No.4038452]

[Anonymous No.4038471]

>>4038418
lol crazy good idea and catchphrase.
thanks.

[Anonymous No.4038474]

>>4038471
Glad to have helped, anon

[Anonymous No.4038481]

>>4038452
Has potential to go viral as a reaction image, hope some big meme page reposts this with credit and you Make It <3 Godspeed to you

[Anonymous No.4038485]

>>4038452
>jul14
>jul27
???
also with regards to content getting burnt out on a comic is sad, take a break and move beyond your current plateau if the noose is saying hello again

[Anonymous No.4038530]

>>4036553
I like this a lot.

[Anonymous No.4038568]

>>4028756
Anybody know some guides on how to cut corners in the manga business, how do some mangakas use digital pictures and turn them into drawn black and white picture. I wanna be able to shoot out more pages quicker.

[Gus No.4038682]

>>4038340
>>4038324
I'm glad to hear it!

[Anonymous No.4038686]

No, i wont say my blog.

[Anonymous No.4038692]

>>4038686
this is old. like... at least half a year old. havent you done anything new??

[Anonymous No.4038696]

>>4036226
you wanna breastfeed a baby?

[Anonymous No.4038766]

>>4038302
this is really cool anon, very inspiring!

[Anonymous No.4038912]

>>4036553
I know, I burned out hard after drawing the feet. I really should go back and start the head from scratch.

[Anonymous No.4039045]

[Anonymous No.4039189]

>>4038686
I’ve saved one of your things before

[Anonymous No.4039205]

>>4038295
>>4038299
>>4038300
>>4038302
very cool stuff lad, love it

[Anonymous No.4039222]

[Anonymous No.4039243]

I always had the most troubles with hair and recently came up with this approach
>no line for the strands, just render them out first big then small just on top of each other

How do you think this looks?

[Anonymous No.4039304]

>>4038302
An inspiration anon.

Mind throwing a link to your comic because I'm too much of a lazy fuck to go through my labyrinth of bookmarks?

[Gus No.4039320]

>>4039304
I should have earlier.

https://tapas.io/series/The-Concord-Initiative
http://concord-initiative.cfw.me/
http://concord-initiative.smackjeeves.com/
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/the-concord-initiative/list?title_no=242087

In 30 words or less:
Young, troubled king tries to stop decline of Early Modern Empire with state sponsored, propagandized spec ops team.
He pulls talent from lawmen and criminals. The situation degenerates.

[Anonymous No.4039371]

>>4039320
The story seems kind of slow for me, anon. But your art is gorgeous, and I can tell you put a lot of consideration into your narrative choices.

[Anonymous No.4039380]

>>4038330
The color is pretty and the design has promise, but theres nothing else substantial to it. I cant tell what kind of person your character is, they look blank and their pose is uninformative. It doesnt really catch my eye.the only thing I can see this working for is a character design reference. Theres a million long-haired angel/demons in suits, so why is yours different? This image doesnt tell any story. id scroll past this.

[Gus No.4039390]

>>4039371
The first chapter was definitely slower than I anticipated, but truth be told, it will be a comparatively longer and slower moving project in general. Three Volumes of Three Chapters, each chapter 80-100 pages. I'm in it for the longhaul, alongside other projects.

Thanks for taking a look!

[Anonymous No.4039744]

[Anonymous No.4039747]

>>4039744
Nice

[Anonymous No.4039794]

guess I'll call this finished

[Anonymous No.4039865]

>>4039744
Damn, I've never seen that done before, work on the left thumb and it's perfect.

[Anonymous No.4039874]

>>4039744
i used to call you my boyfriend whever you posted...
but now i cannot continue to do so
I will always hope you find success though

[Anonymous No.4040025]

>>4039747
>>4039865
Thank you!

>>4039874
This makes me much sadder than you can probably imagine. Thanks a lot for the appreciation. I hope you do well too :)

[Anonymous No.4040125]

Trying to design some bird people

[Anonymous No.4040151]

>>4040125
Oh this is so appealing, I’m in love

[Anonymous No.4040152]

[Anonymous No.4040156]

>>4039744
spooky

[Anonymous No.4040198]

>>4030590
Really good, anon.

[Anonymous No.4040210]

>>4038686
I've saved a similar one. But the other was better. Did you do both or is this a study of the other anon?

[Anonymous No.4040234]

Flat chest appreciation

[Anonymous No.4040259]

>>4040025
dont worry you will always be my friend who is a boy. Its just that I finally found a style that suits me and you seemed to have quadruple-downed on the patreon anime titties
i'll keep following forever though. always love the quick-sketches/poses

[Anonymous No.4040263]

>>4040234
>Flat chest appreciation

[Anonymous No.4040371]

>>4040210
This is a improvement in every aspect of the older one. Its a re painting. Maybe you are comparing with another that is not related

[Anonymous No.4040505]

>>4040234
Your hands are so close to looking really great but the thumb on flat chest scares me and the middle finger of the drawing on the right has 3 joints

[Anonymous No.4040519]

how long do you guys work on a piece

[Anonymous No.4040523]

>>4040519
Total time is like maybe 5 hours but my autistic attention span causes that 5 hours to get spread out over a few days

[Anonymous No.4040544]

>>4040125
>>4040151
Thanks, man. Here's another one.

>>4040519
It depends on the piece. I spent a little over an hour on this, but if I'm doing something more complex than a single character in a simple pose it takes me longer.

[Anonymous No.4040562]

>>4040544
nice birds friend

[Anonymous No.4040574]

>>4040523
>autistic attention span
what does that even mean, you probably just have add

[Anonymous No.4040594]

>>4040371
Its definitely the same one, anon. This one is good too, though. Matter of taste, I guess.

[Anonymous No.4040600]

>>4040574
I have a bad habit of describing everything as autistic

[Anonymous No.4040669]

>>4038686
From the thumbnail it looks like she's hugging her knees instead of boobs

[Anonymous No.4040719]

>>4040125
>>4040544

in an entirely unironic sense, please mentor me anon. please

[Anonymous No.4040721]

>>4039243

[Anonymous No.4040749]

>>4040721
That's a weird neck placement

[Anonymous No.4040764]

>>4040505
O shigg you right, I didn’t realise they were that disfigured

[Anonymous No.4040775]

>>4040721
redline doesnt work if you completely change the style hes going for

[Anonymous No.4040782]

>>4040749
yeah i just noticed that too, the main thing is that you wanna simplify your values and work on making the face cuter. it's kinda weird because at first I thought he was trying to do a side view and then realized it was just her looking over back so i tried to cheat the perspective a bit.

[Anonymous No.4040783]

>>4040775
>style
this guy has no style, he's obviously a beginner

[Anonymous No.4040906]

>>4040782
>work on making the face cuter.
It's pretty clear that the original artist isn't going for a moe style though

[Anonymous No.4040947]

>>4040906
Well then I can't help this guy. If he's going for a 90s thing then he'd be better off doing studies from stills from the actual show.

[Anonymous No.4040953]

>>4038452
How is she ever going to get her head into that tiny noose.

[Anonymous No.4040963]

>>4040962

[Anonymous No.4041282]

>>4028756

[Anonymous No.4042330]

>>4041282
C-cute...