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4025135 No.4025135 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone saving up to study at FZD?

I've been saving up for two years. Got 80% saved up.

I noticed that most people here are NGMI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGXE-F_o7NI
If you look at this video. She went from NGMI to made it in a year.

Seems like the only way to make it is to go to an expensive school and work 16 hours a day.

>> No.4025140

>>4025135
the key is in working 16 hours a day bruv.
not everyone goes out FZD made.

>> No.4025198
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4025198

>>4025135
Lets say you actually were to study 16 hours a day. What exactly would you study within the time frame to improve, Anatomy, perspective, Values? What specifically would you study to make you improve?

>> No.4025210

>>4025135
>OP goes to FDZ
>Flunks out
>/ic/ becomes a laughingstock

Do you honestly believe you have that level of work ethic? Stay here, where you belong.

>> No.4025215

>>4025135
Theres nothing to learn from fzd that you cant learn on your own. They use how to draw and how to render by robertson and few others and just grind. If you cant do it yourself, paying someone to make you do it wont work.

>> No.4025252

>>4025135
why would you waste so much money?

>> No.4025279

>>4025252

Because its the only way to make it.

>>4025215

Nobody has gotten good just studying Robertson by himself.

>> No.4025280

>>4025135

If I had FZD money I'd quit my job for 2 years and go NEET.

>> No.4025367

I need to share my advice with you because I think you might be making a mistake. I'm thinking about dropping serious money on art school. James Watt's atelier seems like a fantastic choice, and a cool experience to live out there for a while. It would be good to develop traditional painting skills instead of just digital. I haven't done any serious research on a better value atelier, but I don't think I'll go wrong with Watt. He has a video on his YouTube that I considered an extremely convincing pitch. "how to be a successful artist" or something.

FZD though... I have strong reservations about investing in that, for a couple of reasons. His YouTube is quite good, at least. But the model of a fixed-time college education has been shown by many professionals not to be the ideal way to learn art. Yes a dedicated environment is a strong point, and you certainly will handle pressure better after that much training, but it teaches by cramming, mostly. Ateliers teach in a way that's focused on your skill level, rather than having this sink or swim state for 1 to 2 years in such a college. And FZD teaches such a specific style, whereas a good Atelier just focus on giving you a fundamental mastery so you can further your training however you want.

And 16 hours a day? That's ineffective in so many ways. Humans don't work like that. You're going to be overtired, unhealthy due to lack of sleep. Getting sick all the time due to your weak immune system due to lack of sleep and mental well being cause every waking moment is pressure, with no time for self, or loved ones, or any other hobbies or jobs. How much money are you gonna spend eating out?

16 hours is such a thoughtless way to get results from students. It makes me think Feng doesn't care how you do. If you burn out and flunk off it's not his problem. And trust me, lots of people would burn out in that environment.

Yeah no, if I spend big on art school, it's at an atelier. It's a fraction of the cost.

>> No.4025386

Found you the link. I really enjoyed this video and I think I could learn a lot from this guy, or people that he'd choose to hire for his school.

But to clarify, I don't care what you do, except that I think a place like FZD might really suck to study at.

https://youtu.be/KX0MrnzBJ8M

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>>4025367
thank you for the information on watt's atelier anon! it seems quite affordable, though the cost of living in cali itself could be a hurdle to overcome..

>> No.4025410

>>4025367
everyone that went to fzd made it

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4025529

>>4025367
have fun at watts hahhaa

>> No.4025715

>>4025135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKoWZVY2YPs
>I like sleeping, so I worked hard to be able to sleep at least 5 hours a night...mostly 4, sometimes 3...but 5 was around my goal number.
How the fuck are you supposed to improve or even function with that little sleep every day?

>> No.4025722

>>4025367
> 16 hours
How the fuck you gonna have a weak immune system due to lack of sleep if you're sleeping 8 hours a day? If you cannot subtract 16 from 24 you're NGMI in fucking LIFE.

>> No.4025725

>>4025715
You can sleep 5 or 6 hours a day just fine. Less than that for extended periods of time (a week or so) will start giving you trouble. But you can do 5 hrs a day and maybe sleep 10 hrs on Sunday and you'll be fine.

>> No.4025729

>>4025715
its what you have to do to catch up with ppl that has been drawing since they were 4

>> No.4025730

>>4025410
and how long after they made it are they taking to pay it back, brainlet?

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4025738

>>4025722
>draw 16 hours a day and sleep 8 hours
>don't eat or bathe or anything

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>Only rich people can make it
>Nah bro just draw 16 hours a day all while trying to make a living and balance life priorities
The truth is, the game was rigged from the start

>> No.4025771

>>4025730
poorfag cant even afford 40k, just go flip burgers

>> No.4026269

>>4025403
You're very welcome! Cali is definitely expensive, but if you live in north America, it's a shorter flight from your home region. I don't know how much Singapore's cost of living is, but the FZD budget alone might cover all your expenses in California and school.

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4026492

>>4025135
Feng doesn't teach there no moa.
Students work are shit nowdays.

It used to be a place I looked up to so much, I used to try mimic the same way they did their studies...

>> No.4026505

>>4026492
desu that's not thaat bad m8

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>>4026505
OK

>> No.4026837

>>4025135
why do art chicks look so degenerate while trying to act cute?

>> No.4026876

>>4026492
I like this

>> No.4026953

>>4026269
any good recs for similar schools in europe?

>> No.4026989

>>4025135
art school brings nothing, learn from books and get a real job to support yourself dumbass

>> No.4026992

>>4025715
all of that money and time, for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ADHDmf5Lrg

>> No.4027010

>>4026953
Honestly idk, but it's Europe. There might be even better ateliers there.

>> No.4027160

>>4025198
The fact that you even have to ask this question proves that you NGMI, faggot.