/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3959193]

I wanna paint like this, the character, bg, everything. but it looks so fucking difficult. my only comfort is that Feng Wei is in his 40's so i got a lot of time at least

how long would it take to reach this? do you think he relies on references or is he past that point?

[Anonymous No.3959198]

>>3959193
shut up and draw it's all difficult you pen sucking fuckwit. Quit drinking the ink and use it on paper for once

[Anonymous No.3959199]

>>3959198
pyw

[Anonymous No.3959201]

>>3959193
>how long would it take to reach this?
5+ years minimum
>do you think he relies on references
Most definitely
>or is he past that point?
No one is passed using references.

[Anonymous No.3959220]

>>3959201
>No one is passed using references.
not true. i know a number of artists who have a visual library large enough to do more complicated pieces than this without reference.

>5+ years minimum
no one reaches this in 5 years. as if the above didn't make it obvious enough, you're too ignorant to be talking.

[Anonymous No.3959225]

>>3959220
I said over 5 years my man, not under 5. Also the artists who work without references still study from references and if they're doing a complex piece then it makes very very little sense to use no references. Stop getting offended, why make the thread if you already have the answers?

[Anonymous No.3959234]

>>3959201
There's nothing wrong with using references, but most real high tier artists dont need to go looking for reference cause they got it in their head.
Sae jin draws that kind of stuff on his stream he doens't ever use ref.

[Anonymous No.3959236]

>>3959225
you said 5 as a starting point.

>the artists who work without references still study from references
yes, obviously. but studies are not the same thing as reference dependability. they study it to store the knowledge and bend it however they want when they start drawing

[Anonymous No.3959318]

>>3959193
wow wei feng has really fallen..

it's when you have given up on pursuing ruan

[Anonymous No.3959322]

>>3959318

[Anonymous No.3959324]

>>3959322

[Anonymous No.3959325]

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[Anonymous No.3959326]

>>3959325

[Anonymous No.3959328]

>>3959326

[Anonymous No.3959348]

>>3959193
If you check the tuts on studio Element of Power on bilibili, you will realized that Feng Wei is extremely systematic in his method of painting, and he teaches all his students to go through the same process. I suggest at least going through their website http://www.yscg.cn/ and take a look through all their materials, they have ALOT to offer for free.

Now to answer your question:
Let's say you're an average artist, it often takes you 2-3 years to be hireable, 5 years to start making really nice work with good consistency throughout all your work, and 10 years to master and transform your work. An example of a 5-year is Astri Lohne. Examples of 10 years + masters are Feng Wei, Ruan Jia, HGJ... you name it.

About references, he 100% rely on references if you look into his painting videos on bilibili, however they often look for some very specific elements that they want to borrow into their paintings, never they use over 60-70% to the point where you can recognize they use references. That's why they often create a moodboard instead of just copying from 1 reference.

Pic is from 1 of Element of Power studio student homework. As long as you can follow the workflow, you can definitely channel Feng Wei into your work. But i highly suggest you to start working hard.

good luck anon

[Anonymous No.3959361]

>my only comfort is that Feng Wei is in his 40's so i got a lot of time at least
Believing you have more time is one of the cruelest lies you can tell yourself.

>>3959201
>5+ years minimum
>>3959220
>no one reaches this in 5 years
This is damaging advice. Everyone learns at a different pace and there are many capable artists in their teens capable of similar work that haven't had 5+ years to invest, rather point people in the right direction of what they need to learn instead of just vaguely inflating complexity.

[Anonymous No.3959364]

>>3959318
wtf how did he regress so much in just 2-3 years

[Anonymous No.3959376]

Most people getting into this realm doesn't realize that you need at least 4-5 years to start not drawing like shit.
You won't find any instant gratification in this field
And that's the fucking start, not the end.

[Anonymous No.3959546]

>>3959199
Here's my most recent, I'll post a year old after this

[Anonymous No.3959548]

>>3959546
This is shit from march 2018, when I was coming out of a long hiatus. The left is from november 2018, the titty tongue lady is from the other day.

[Anonymous No.3959555]

>>3959546
>>3959548
You got a long way ahead of you, start thinking about things in 3D and ditch the fancy brushes.

[Anonymous No.3959558]

>>3959193
Not crabbing, just trying to get an understanding but how is that pose possible?

[Anonymous No.3959582]

>>3959555
checked and noted

[Anonymous No.3959874]

>>3959193
lol that leg

[Anonymous No.3959881]

>>3959193
My fucking joint hurts looking at that, goddamn that must be painful.

[Anonymous No.3959906]

>>3959318
Fallen? the shit in the OP is 1000000000000000000000 more appealing that what you posted LMAO

[Anonymous No.3959915]

>>3959881
t. landwhale
I can do this easily

[Anonymous No.3959979]

>>3959193
The way that her legs don't have any kind of effect on each other by squishing or lighting/reflecting light makes them look like they're paper.

[Anonymous No.3959991]

>>3959906
ask me how I know that you're a beg brainlet lmao

[Anonymous No.3959994]

>>3959318
When did he become this shit? He was one of the big 3..

[Anonymous No.3959996]

>>3959193
Dude, rendering and Patreon bucks that let people stay home all day lmao.

[Anonymous No.3960000]

>>3959991
I'm not going to ask you anything since you already proven that you're a fool

[Anonymous No.3960005]

>>3959994
>let's put pseudo le artiste deep meaning into the painting

[Anonymous No.3960010]

>>3960000
You've proven your shit taste and low IQ the moment you've disclosed this embarrassment >>3959906 retard.

[Anonymous No.3960011]

More anime crap has everyones panties soaked. This board needs to get taste. And this is coming from the biggest weeb on the board.

[Anonymous No.3960052]

>>3959348
Is their any stuff you can just buy or can you only request to enroll?

[Anonymous No.3960083]

>>3959361
>This is damaging advice.

And setting an unreasonably difficult goal for other people, only for them to later not reach it and think that there's something wrong with them when in fact, they're doing reasonably well, isn't damaging?

OP asked for a realistic, level-headed approximation of how long it could take, "DO IT RIGHT NOW LMAO JUST BELIEVE IN YOURSELF BRO" isn't an answer either. The only thing I hate more than crabbing is tiring, pretentious fantasy-land self-help bullshit no one asked for.

[Anonymous No.3960107]

>>3960010
>no u
pathetic and no taste

[Anonymous No.3960111]

>>3959318
>>3959994
He hasn't regressed what so ever. You guys are talking out of your ass. Go to his website. He has a huge amount of experience, and if you can't tell, his compositions, lighting and form is a lot better.
His older work seems "better" because of the amount of detail, texture and overall large compositional pieces.
His newer work is simplified and has a flat style. It is most likely personal art, without aiming for any special or potential studio/client. His older work seems catered towards commercial/promotional art

[Anonymous No.3960281]

>>3960052
I dont think so, either you look at all the free tuts, or you enroll into their studio, thats probably it. I'd be cool if somebody can translate the free materials and upload them i guess.

[Anonymous No.3960390]

how does this guy find the right colors for the right everything? is it a math? Am I using color sliders wrong?

[Anonymous No.3960409]

>>3960390
First of all his understanding of light and value are the definition of solid. When it comes to color he doesn't really veer away from the warm light/cool shadows, cool light/warm shadows concept. It informs his palette choices and everything else hinges on his knowledge of value and exaggerated edges/contrast. The keyword when it comes to deciding what color goes where is: temperature.

[Anonymous No.3960444]

>>3959193
You guys cant see the fucked up perspective on her body? She looks mangled

[Anonymous No.3960471]

>>3959348
They also have a way of rendering that does not give a tacky 2000's vibe.