The trad chad redpill

[Anonymous No.3958742]

>Paper has no input lag, you go as fast as you can, you don't rely on a potato
>paper has perfect alignment of pen to surface. what you see is what you get, no almost.
>You can move to a different paper or still mess with a drying up piece, where in digital you sometimes have to wait for hours for it to execute a process
>working on any decent resolution slows down your potato to a halt
>traditional materials cost a lot less in the longrun. You need a couple thousands of dollars of software, hardware, and external bills when even using expensive mediums will cost you less than half of that in the same amount of time.
>super complicated brushes and tools can't tax real life, but can tax your computer
>not limited to the measly digital colors
>no banding, compression, artifacts etc
>no program crashes

Become a trad chad today

[Anonymous No.3958746]

I am already, too bad it's such a pain to properly take photos of paintings

[Anonymous No.3958749]

>>3958742
Go work minimum wage for a week and buy yourself a computer

[Anonymous No.3958754]

>>3958749
I've got one alright
Still doesn't stop it from spending an hour yesterday processing a goddamn effect to a scanned trad piece.

[Anonymous No.3958756]

>>3958749
>1 week minimum wage can buy a computer
You need to be over 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.3958757]

>>3958742
I work in pen and ink and exclusively on paper, bristol, cardstock etc. But if I wanted to do a specific thing and it was convenient to do digital then I'd dust off my old tablet and go practice that shit in a heartbeat. In fact I'd like to learn all the mediums I can. But that shit takes time. Luckily, I've got time. Damn I'm grateful for the life I have been given

[Anonymous No.3958761]

>>3958746
you could always get a cheap scaner and scan at around 300dpi, no need for a powerfull computer tho, you just need a lot of space to save a scan

[Anonymous No.3958771]

>>3958742
Buy a real PC and a real tablet screen you third worlder.
>>3958757
Godspeed anon.

[Anonymous No.3958783]

>>3958761
Yeah it's not bad, I'm just too lazy because I don't really share my work. I have an old scanner but I couldn't find drivers online to make it work with my netbook

[Anonymous No.3958801]

>>3958757
Cheers nice stuff, goodluck.
>>3958771
Got a pretty decent 2014 alienware. Still coughs itself when working at 8k res
Used to work with a ugee 2150. Honestly good tablet but still got nothing on paper. Tried even procreate with a proper ipad once, it's alright, but still miles away from paper.

[Anonymous No.3958803]

>>3958742
>>Paper has no input lag, you go as fast as you can, you don't rely on a potato

Assuming we have "potato" computers. I don't.

>>paper has perfect alignment of pen to surface. what you see is what you get, no almost.

A Cintiq is pretty damn close to that, which is why I love mine.

>>You can move to a different paper or still mess with a drying up piece, where in digital you sometimes have to wait for hours for it to execute a process

I've never had a process take "hours" to do.

>>working on any decent resolution slows down your potato to a halt

I see a pattern here...

>>traditional materials cost a lot less in the longrun. You need a couple thousands of dollars of software, hardware, and external bills when even using expensive mediums will cost you less than half of that in the same amount of time.

Yep. It's a pattern.

>>super complicated brushes and tools can't tax real life, but can tax your computer

More...

>>not limited to the measly digital colors
>>no banding, compression, artifacts etc
>>no program crashes

Nobody cares that you're too fucking poor to buy a decent computer. Get a fucking job and stop whining.

[Anonymous No.3958815]

>>3958761
Scans, especially line art, aren't that big. And, disk space is cheap these days.

[Anonymous No.3958860]

>>3958742
shut the fuck up nerd lol

[Anonymous No.3958867]

[Anonymous No.3958872]

>>3958742
This image contains every difficult subject in art

[Anonymous No.3958874]

>>3958867
mmmh, tastes good

[Anonymous No.3958888]

>>3958872
You meant to say...
A very
Hard
subject in art.

[Anonymous No.3958892]

>>3958888
Many hard things

[Anonymous No.3958907]

>>3958892
Things that are hard
>this piece
>that metal
>these rocks
>me

[Anonymous No.3958930]

>>3958803
>reddit spacing
opinion invalid

[Arachni No.3958932]

>ink smudges
>long rendering times when painting
>less job opportunities
>kills trees
just go digital you dummy

[Anonymous No.3958936]

>Don't have to worry about 4k+ monitors making your piece look like shit on future monitors unless you futureproof your work
>Don't have to worry about the dpi/resolution altering the quality of your lines/brushes
>Don't have any pussyass stablizers to hold your hand letting you build
>No overpowered undo button in real life so you actually think constantly about your next line
>No need to worry about zooming in too much when working so you have a better grasp at the whole picture at all times
>Oil paint > anything digital shits out
>Much more variance in traditional art than digital
>Don't need electricity, can work next to a candle light
>No literal cheating by selecting and transforming to move and resize
>No easy way to trace
>Will never worry about doing things on the wrong layer
>Physical things are inherently worth more than digital
>Might be put in museums and gain the respect of locals
>Can launder money
>Women will respect you more if you do their portrait on paper rather than an ipad
>Aliens could excavate your work long after humanity is dead and hang it next to their cryosleep chambers
>People will respect you for not doing digital
>It's comfy

Am I missing anything?

[Anonymous No.3958947]

>>3958936
Lots of good points
Cheers

[Anonymous No.3958958]

>>3958936
Oops meant to fix this
>Don't have any pussyass stablizers to hold your hand letting you build actual line control and muscle memory

Also
>Don't have to constantly bicker and worry about brushs and their settings
>No cheater brush that will stamp stuff like trees and other objects
>Don't have to look at a bright monitor when working
>Can experiment with a wider variety of working environments
>Can charge furfags exorbitant prices for commissions if you do their diaper inflation scat fetish in oil painting and mail it to them and they'll publicly display your work it with pride as they hang it in their living room

[Anonymous No.3958974]

Pretty sad that people resort to shit like this for some extra likes and retweets.

[Anonymous No.3958983]

>>3958974
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.3958986]

>>3958936
>4k+
This does not matter all your other points are pretty good though

[Anonymous No.3958989]

>>3958742
Isn't bigger resolution a pro of the digital medium? On paper no matter how much I try I can't do small details like the distant buildings of a city without it looking like shitty small boxes, and if I try to draw windows on them it looks too cluttered since the ballpoint pen makes lines almost as thick as the little buildings themselves

[Anonymous No.3958993]

>>3958986
The increasing resolution of consumer monitors matters very much when it comes to digital work.

[Anonymous No.3959005]

>>3958993
1080+ is placebo, faggot

[Anonymous No.3959019]

>>3958974

[Anonymous No.3959022]

>>3959005
I'm sorry, it must have slipped my mind that the human eyes can't comprehend past 1080p and 60fps

[Anonymous No.3959026]

>>3958974
pt sure when an artist does this they are coloring a traditional sketch.
I doubt anyone's desperate enough to make an entirely digital painting an paste it on blank paper.
There's a mechanical pencil and eraser there it probably was a trad sketch.

[Anonymous No.3959029]

>>3958989
You can just get bigger paper. You can also get good. There's some real delicate details you can craft even with the naked eye.

[Anonymous No.3959032]

>>3958993
Only if you work in broadcasting and/or film retard.

[Anonymous No.3959105]

>>3958742
>no undo
Pass

[Anonymous No.3959146]

>>3958993
aside: marketing naming are getting progressively more retarded
>720p = HD so naturally 1080p = FullHD (duh)
>4k is 4x the 1080p but not in size, in surface (sure...)
>8k is twice the 4k... in size (YOU FUCKING WHAT?)

[Anonymous No.3959151]

>>3959105
You don't need to undo every second when your medium allows you to draw the exact line on first try

[Anonymous No.3959180]

>>3959151
But sometimes i want to move my drawing to the side an inch... and so i erase the whole sketch and start over again

[Anonymous No.3959182]

>>3959180
There's always solutions to that. you could cut out the portion and glue it on a new piece, you could plan out your whole thing beforehand, it's not hard.

[Anonymous No.3959191]

>>3959182
Or I can use a lasso tool and move it

[Anonymous No.3959218]

>>3959191
Yes, you could use a worse medium that's easier to correct, but by the time it takes to so anything in digital you could have redrawn everything from 0 5 times in trad.

[Anonymous No.3959224]

>>3959218
Surely you jest, it takes a second and a half to lasso something and move it. Perhaps you are retarded

[Anonymous No.3959229]

>>3959224
Learn to read and reread the damn post kid.

[Anonymous No.3959232]

>>3959229
>by the time it takes to so anything in digital you could have redrawn everything from 0 5 times in trad.
That is absolutely, unequivocally, the most retarded statement I have ever heard in my life.
People use digital because of its versatility and SPEED. God damn I cannot even believe you posted that you fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.3959311]

>>3958974
That can't be real

[Anonymous No.3959352]

>>3959218
In the west, not doing digital means locking yourself out of most commercial art opportunities - most places aren't set up for physical art anymore, nor are there as many - if any - places that can take photos or transparencies of paintings, and nobody wants the extra cost of doing that, and then getting drum scans for publication.

I was trained before digital was really a thing, and worked in traditional for a while, and I'll the first to say thank fucking god for digital. No more extra steps of transparencies/scans, no 'whoops" when it prints, easy turn around for edits/changes, and storage is simple - and no Fedex/courier charges with insurance sending paintings off to clients. Or dealing with keeping paintings clean before shipping, having them show up at the client damaged, or lost. Never have to worry about running out of paint in the middle of the night anymore, or having a painting get wrecked because your dog knocked the easel running by, and the painting face-planted into the carpet. Sure, files will corrupt once in a long while, or something will fail, but digital overwhelmingly is more efficient, less prone to 'whoops!", and I get way, way, way more done, faster, then when I painted for a living.

Which is why i do digital for money, and traditional for myself.

You can snob all you want for traditional, but it's not economically viable, considering how little opportunity there is for it in the commercial world, and let's be honest, nobody here will have paintings in a museum. I love painting. I will do it until I die. I fully intend to die with a brush in my hand - but I pay the rent with Adobe, like most of the world.

[Anonymous No.3959363]

>>3958867

[Anonymous No.3959367]

>>3958974
wait how did he get away with it? eyes have literally the sai blur on them and everything is crispy sharp and noiseless except all the things surrounding the paper lol

seriously how come kawacy didn't get a mega shit storm for this

[Anonymous No.3959435]

>>3959146
i think its 4k because its almost 4000 pixels wide, not because its 4x1080p

[Anonymous No.3959490]

>>3958974
>>3959311
Jesus fuck that's actually hilarious
Do normalfags not mind that or do they just not notice?

[Anonymous No.3959522]

>>3959490
>>3958974
I'm pretty sure people just assume he took a picture of the sketch and colored it digitally, I've seen it done before by japanese artists.
But the lines in these look smooth and red, not pencil-like at all. What's even the point if you're going to fully render them so much the sketch doesn't show up?
Pictures done fully with poscas like pic related are more impressive

[Anonymous No.3959537]

>>3958742
my process is half traditional half digital and I think I get the best of both worlds

>>3959490
normies don't notice anything and by the time someone calls you out you already made a billion likes

[Anonymous No.3959681]

>>3958932
Yeah computers magically form from air and are made from nothing else, especially no non-renewable resources.
HAHAHAHA!

[Anonymous No.3959696]

>>3958742
feels good having a hobby that doesnt rely on a screen blasting light into your face.

[Anonymous No.3959738]

>>3959696
amen

[Anonymous No.3959750]

>>3959537
I do animation, even if I had 10 million dollars I couldn't really work with cel, some of it is literally dead tech, have to settle for digital ink and paint.

[Anonymous No.3959772]

>>3958742
Analog>digital

that applies to all kinds of art. Molding air with a brass appliance i.e. a trumpet and telling a beautiful story with it will always be more aesthetic than translating that air into a digital signal made up of 1s and 0s.

That applies to drawing as well. making a world by scratching a piece of coal on paper will always be 1000x more aesthetic than inputting a signal into a program that runs your 1s and 0s through a million other programs and out comes something that is who knows what, a digital representation of an idea. But only real artists understand this, so your arguments mean nothing.

[Anonymous No.3959854]

>>3958958
>No cheater brush that will stamp stuff like trees and other objects
Imagine being this naive.

[Anonymous No.3960823]

>>3959435
sadly I found out you were right, people coming up with names were even more retarded, they started counting incomplete thousands of pixels using wrong dimension
I would hope people stop using these stupid meme names, but they are fucking shorter and everyone already know them
>HD, FullHD, UHD1, UHD2, ...
>720p, 1080p, 2160p, 4320p, ...
>RIP in peace
aside: 2K monitors are perfectly fine for most tasks anyway

[Anonymous No.3960934]

>>3958749
more like 3 or 4
and that if your really frugal

[Anonymous No.3961940]

>>3958742
You also forgot
>No undo function so you actually have to develop skill :^)

[Anonymous No.3964378]

>>3958742
Have sex

[Anonymous No.3964471]

>>3958930
Based

[Anonymous No.3964472]

>>3958803
Cringe and reddit pilled

[The digital stacy blackpill No.3964493]

>>3958742
>Ctrl+Z
>Vector Layers
>Monitor and tablet screens mean you don't have to invest in a lightbox or hot as fuck lamps just to feasibly work at night; occasional eyestrain > sweating your balls off
>Thorough software enables you to have as many layers, brush and color settings as you want, allowing for greater initial experimentation at no cost of material
>Don't have to waste exorbitant amounts of money or scrounge around for decent pens, pencils, brushes, acrylics, oils, canvases, and paper every other month
>You can pirate software, you cannot pirate everything else
>High upfront cost pays off almost immediately, especially if there isn't a good arts & crafts store within a 50 mile radius of your home
>If you're poor and can't afford a studio space then your desktop/laptop/tablet/smartphone all become your studio at the click of a mouse or touch of the screen
>Vernacular of file formats desanctify everything you export and share, ensuring you stay humble in the art making process
>Will likely never be acquired by galleries or museums for being a producer of poor images
>Are under no delusions that you'll ever make it in the Contemporary Art™ market
>Banding, Compression, Artifacts, etc (Yes, really)

[The digital stacy blackpill No.3964500]

>>3958742
>Ctrl+Z
>Vector Layers
>Monitor and tablet screens mean you don't have to invest in a lightbox or hot as fuck lamps just to feasibly work at night; occasional eyestrain > sweating your balls off
>Thorough software enables you to have as many layers, brush and color settings as you want, allowing for greater initial experimentation at no cost of material
>Don't have to waste exorbitant amounts of money or scrounge around for decent pens, pencils, brushes, acrylics, oils, canvases, and paper every other month
>You can pirate software, you cannot pirate everything else
>High upfront cost pays off almost immediately, especially if there isn't a good arts & crafts store within a 50 mile radius of your home
>If you're poor and can't afford a studio space then your desktop/laptop/tablet/smartphone all become your studio at the click of a mouse or touch of the screen
>Vernacular of file formats desanctify everything you export and share, ensuring you stay humble in the art making process
>Will likely never be acquired by galleries or museums for being a producer of poor images
>Are under no delusions that you'll ever make it in the Contemporary Art™ market
>Banding, Compression, Artifacts, etc (Yes, really)

Become a digital stacy today

[Anonymous No.3964588]

>>3964500
>lucrative manipulation option on a trash medium
Yea, fantastic tradeoff
>stuck to a monitor
I'd rather sweat my balls off
>cost of material
Except you need about 2K$ worth of hardware and software every 3 years without including any sorts of bills and services. The only medium that surpassed digital in expenses was cel animation. cels and film were very expensive. The best pencils in the world both cost 1-2 dollars a pop (mitsubishi hi uni and blackwing) paper's cheap as hell, enough paint to last you years of heavy use would still easily only be in the hundreds tops. Stretch canvases are expensive, no shit they are, but still a fraction of digital prints.
>upfront cost pays off immediately
sure, pal, whatever you say.
>too poor to affort a tablecloth, got enough money to have a smartphone, tablet, and desktop
nani?
>talking about making it, contamporary art, and value
Bruh i just wonna draw what's this trash? That's like me bitching about oscial media junk what's your point?
>bending,c ompression, artifacts
is this kid stupid?
am i falling for a joke?

[Anonymous No.3964604]

>>3958936
>Don't need electricity, can work next to a candle light
You are wrong on this. This is one of the worst aspects of traditional (if you use color), you are awfully dependent on natural light. My apartment has awful lighting and I have to use multiple light bulbs even during daylight hours to get an acceptable lighting that doesn't mess up the colors. Imagine painting in places up north that have long periods of darkness. Most old painters would paint in the morning and switch to charcoal or prepare other pieces in the evening when there was no light.
This without even considering the aspect of photographing your work for social media every day, I only have a small window of time to photograph something and I have to go outside.
>Am I missing anything?
That it feels a million times better. Nothing will ever beat the feel of using real watercolor or real pencil on paper. From a tactile point of view, digital feels like shit. You're using a piece of plastic on another piece of plastic.

But I'll be honest, traditional is a downgrade in almost every aspect if you want to be a working artist. I have to do a piece with extensive masking on complex small shapes and I had huge headaches, I had to buy special art supplies that still have to arrive and might not work. On digital this is literally selecting an area and clicking a button.

[Anonymous No.3964627]

>>3964588
>The best pencils in the world both cost 1-2 dollars a pop (mitsubishi hi uni and blackwing) paper's cheap as hell, enough paint to last you years of heavy use would still easily only be in the hundreds tops.
Sorry but you don't paint at all if you think a hundred dollars of paint will last you years. You have to buy good quality watercolor paper or canvas which isn't exactly cheap, and paints - if you use them - run out fairly quickly. The only reason why traditional might compete in costs with digital is that you sell the physical item for more (but think about how much more material a digital artist can produce). It's a whole lot more expensive, and it's laughable to think you can work traditionally without buying a camera/scanner and a computer anyway.
>Bruh i just wonna draw what's this trash?
If you are a hobbyist who paints on sundays why should anybody care about your opinion?

[Anonymous No.3964632]

Medium-Chauvisim is fucking retarded
Formats are like languages. French isn't inherently better or worse than, say, german. Are they useful for different things? Yes. But, in the end, they are both used to convey things to other people.
The real redpill is improving your digital will improve your traditional, and vice versa
The more mediums you learn, the more angles you can see reality from
All art comes down to a few basics, like analysing form, and color, and anatomy, perspective etc.
The most important things about art are independent of medium.

[Anonymous No.3964671]

>>3964588
>fantastic tradeoff
Yeah! It's not my fault you're staying buttmad about it.
>Except you need about 2K$ worth of hardware and software every 3 years without including any sorts of bills and services.
My five year desktop has been running the Adobe Creative Suite and Clip Studio Paint without any hiccups. The former I've pirated on numerous occasions, the latter I actually paid for within the past year. I've invested, and it's paid off; are you incapable of imagining a working artist making ends meet?
>The best pencils in the world both cost 1-2 dollars a pop (mitsubishi hi uni and blackwing) paper's cheap as hell, enough paint to last you years of heavy use would still easily only be in the hundreds tops.
A box of the pencils you described range from $12-25 a pop; I'm sure you can buy them individually for the price you mentioned but the nearest arts & crafts store for me is three hours away. An individual stylus may cost much more to replace (which shouldn't happen nearly as often as it would for pens, pencils or even brushes, if at all) but the nibs still last longer in my experience. It's just more economical. Also, archival paper isn't cheap in the slightest; how long have you been painting, anyway? A couple hundred dollars worth of paint wouldn't last very long for a professional painter, let alone an emerging gallery artist.
>but still a fraction of digital prints.
Where the hell are you getting your digital prints made? You can get okayish prints for literal pocket change at Kinko's for fucks sake.
>nani?
You don't have to have all those things; my point was obvious: digital = portable. Art is easier store when the medium is largely immaterial.
>Bruh i just wonna draw what's this trash?
You'd think a "trad chad" would know a thing or two about art history but I guess that isn't the case here.

[Anonymous No.3964680]

>>3958742
Paper has input lag because of friction and specific heat capacity that would set it on fire if you go too fast.

[Anonymous No.3964854]

>>3959363
kek

[Anonymous No.3965696]

who cares, just draw

[Anonymous No.3965932]

>>3958742
So what tools and medium was this kind of art made in? I was always impressed at how they made the metal texture look so smooth.

Also does anyone know who the artist is? I've seen a lot of this kind of curvy robot lady artwork before but I dont know if it was just a passing fad or if its attributable to a specific artist. Any help would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3965953]

>>3965932
Look up hajime sorayama secrets revealed in youtube there's 2 1.5 hours videos of his going start to finish on a piece.

[Anonymous No.3965954]

>not using both
Fucking betas. Take a page out of Karl's book

[Anonymous No.3965957]

>>3964632
Fucking this. The chaddest answer

[Anonymous No.3965958]

>>3965954
>digital colorist
>animation colorist
notice how the shitties jobs that don't require real artists are digital.
Do trad and hire some loser to do the rest.

[Anonymous No.3967107]

yeah but I like digital better anyway

[Anonymous No.3967147]

why are poorfags so absolutely seething at the idea of someone using a different medium
just get a job and you'll be able to afford a tablet screen too bro

[Anonymous No.3967148]

>>3958742
all this comes down to not owning a potato PC. try getting a job.

[Anonymous No.3967150]

>>3958754
I don't know what fucking nasa software you are using, but sorry you are just stupid. Don't force this on anyone else than yourself.

[Anonymous No.3967151]

>>3958993
no it does not. Do you know scaling? Most digital artists downscale their final render because it usually looks when the detail gets ghosted.

[Anonymous No.3967154]

this is the most sour grape summer thread in the history of /ic/

[Anonymous No.3967168]

I jave both a good co,puter and tablet but I still prefer traditonal. The smell is like no other, digital makes it easy as hell for painting with undoing etc. Oil painting traditonally is the highest of skills. Digital makes it too easy, but learning both is good, traditonal will always take more skill than digital and won't come even halfway close to being as impressive as seeing work on a canvas in real life instead of a screen with blue light.

Zoomers don't like trad because they simply can't do it without tracing over a ref or photobashing.

t. 27 year old who did such as a teen, now I do trad and it just feels right, only problem is taking photos, can never get the right light on big canvases

[Anonymous No.3967171]

>>3967168
You're not even close to any skill ceiling on digital so why does it matter.

[Anonymous No.3967172]

>>3967168
>Zoomers don't like trad because they simply can't do it without tracing over a ref or photobashing.
Heh, probably true. Also the feel of the tooth on paper can be nice, your kind of right on the snell too, for some reason the way graphite smells makes ne relaxed.

[Anonymous No.3967175]

>>3967168
>photobashing zoomers
I'll give you that one, shits everywhere but I don't think all of them do it.
>>3967171
Actually you are, you can only work with one medium...a stylus.

[Anonymous No.3967176]

>>3967168
Chad and tradpilled
>>3967171
Cringe and digipilled

[Anonymous No.3967177]

>>3967175
>Actually you are, you can only work with one medium...a stylus.
Can you explain why only having a stylus would make it so that the skill ceiling (let's define it as mastery of value, color, edge, composition) is immediately reached?

[Anonymous No.3967181]

>>3967171
>not close to a skill ceiling
>only medium is a digital pen
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.3967182]

>>3967181
I need to you answer to >>3967177 too

[Anonymous No.3967185]

>>3967171
Because with traditonal art you can't on going back on your layers and edit them to hell, what's done is done, you learn faster on paper, canvas and wood this way, you can then apply it to digital.

Also claiming trad is for poorfags is false, it's actually way more expensive to buy oils, canavas and the proper tools for a long amount of time than it is for a tablet.
>>3967182
Just did.

[Anonymous No.3967188]

ITT boomers vs zoomers

Just use both and be a real nigga.

[Anonymous No.3967189]

>>3967168
Trad feels better overall, with the contact of the pen on paper, the smells and all that. You can't quite replace that.
Digital feels good too for other reasons, layers and tools it offers are just so convenient and often, for me, make some of the harder stuff (perspective, values) easier to figure out.

As mentionned itt it's pretty pointless to argue over which is better. They're both good and bad for different reasons, and we all have out personal preferences. There's no right or wrong there, and if anything itt causes you to be asshurt you need to get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.3967195]

>>3967188
I do use both, I just prefer traditonal over digital. I can sell paintings and drawings to locals, online it's mostly furfags who pay up amd I just don't want to degrade myself to that shit. At least not until it's 100% nessary.

[Anonymous No.3967196]

>>3967168
That oil paint is fucking with your brain.

[Anonymous No.3967201]

>>3967196
I actually vent out my shed where I paint aswell as wear a mask ( as most painters do ) so no actually.

You always paint outside of where you live to avoid such, only a moron would let fumes into his home.

[Anonymous No.3967202]

>>3967185
>Just did.
No, you did not. They are two different questions. You just replied to >>3967171 explaining why you think traditional matters, but in >>3967175 you said the following: "Actually you are, you can only work with one medium...a stylus." in response to my claim that you're not close to any skill ceiling on digital. Because of your claim I asked a question in >>3967177 about why only having a stylus would make it so that the skill ceiling (here defined mastery of value, color, edge, composition) is immediately reached. Answer the question, retard.

[Anonymous No.3967208]

>all of this autism
Just agree that both jave they're merits and stop being fags

Also belive it or not doing traditonal art is way more expensive, it's why I switched.

[Anonymous No.3967213]

>>3958742
No liquify /thread

[Anonymous No.3967214]

Even a trad chad like Andrew Tischler uses digital to help him compose and make studies for his large oil paintings

You're only hindering yourself by not using tools that could help you because reasons

[Anonymous No.3969288]

Ive been trying to do a digital piece, honestly i hate this shit sooo much. maybe its like the cheapest tablets are bad quality or something? its a wacom intuos but fuck me man, i spent 5 hours doing just a face.

[Anonymous No.3969338]

>>3958974
People very often sketch traditionally to get the paper feel and then finish it digitally. You've seriously never seen this online?

[Anonymous No.3971706]

>>3964632
Virgin Trad-purist VS.The Omni-media GigaChad

[Anonymous No.3972297]

>>3958742
>>3958936
>>3958958
>>3964500
USE
B O T H
(Traditional > Digital, but digital is much much more convenient in general. It doesn't teach as much as trad though)

[Anonymous No.3972603]

>>3972297
absolutely this

[Anonymous No.3972828]

>>3972297
I do use both
Nothing wrong with highlighting the disadvantages of one, it wasn't meant to be 100% serious. Digital has a bunch of advantages too such as it being the best place to draw and hide your porn