/beg/inner art thread, Spread thicc Edition

[Anonymous No.3942935]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread: >>3939818 #

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

REMEMBER, if you've just started out you work will not be good, it doesn't need to be, just get in to the swing of actually drawing, and learning how to study. Most of all, enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.3942975]

>>3942894
>>3942896
>>3942897
how about these

[Anonymous No.3943000]

>>3942975
Your construction is off to a good start. I would recommend keeping at it, and I would also work on line confidence a bit more. Maybe try some warmups before drawing (like drawing parallel lines, perfect circles, waves, etc.)

[Anonymous No.3943030]

Do pro artists use reference too?

[Anonymous No.3943033]

>>3943030
yes, they absolutely do. you can not learn how to draw something without actually observing it

[Anonymous No.3943035]

How close am I to a human body without reference now?

[Anonymous No.3943044]

>>3943035
Proportion wise not even close, you've got to understand how a figure is proportioned in relation to other parts of the body. A rule of thumb is to proportion the size of the head with the figure, for example the head counts for the height of a figure or how we're able to measure the distance from the brow to the bottom of the lip to find key landmarks such as the clavicle, sternum, bottom of the rib cage, the corner of the pelvis all which are used as bony landmarks to help you keep proportions in check.

This is why we suggest to study the skeletal system but you don't have to know each and every bone of the figure instead use the bony landmarks as reference and divide the figure using the rule of thirds.

[Anonymous No.3943051]

at least im trying

[Anonymous No.3943065]

>>3943035
Weird proportions...
Some look out of place, some look long as hell, some smaller...
Try to practice more with references

[Anonymous No.3943088]

What do you think about this sketch?

[Anonymous No.3943100]

>>3943051
Draw her waist and hips higher and make her slimer , this way it should look just liie a torso deatched from some legs

[Anonymous No.3943102]

>>3943088
RESIZE YOUR IMAGE

[Anonymous No.3943104]

>>3943100
Also dont be a coward triying to cover her other boob with her hair

[Anonymous No.3943105]

>>3943035
Stop Frankensteining. It isn't working. Just do it like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.3943106]

>>3943035
I told you about a month ago that your woman looked like a mewtwo and it still does.

[Anonymous No.3943107]

>>3943102
Damn , you're right , sorry

[Anonymous No.3943111]

>>3943104
was looking at a reference, but should've probably changed that yea

[Anonymous No.3943137]

>>3943035
Close but not quite. Keep studying references. Look at appealing ways of drawing women and try to copy it. Think about the style you are going for and copy those.

[Anonymous No.3943139]

>>3943088
Chicken scratch and rushed linework. You're not trying man. Draw 10 more of these and do it neatly. Take your time.

[Anonymous No.3943148]

>>3943139
Thats why i specified tha its a sketch , i did it in 5 min with a ball pen on my notebook while i was supposed to be paying attention in class , what i want to know is if it has soul or if its something off with it

[Anonymous No.3943151]

>>3943148
>>3943139
Thanks anyway tho , i hope i didnt come out as too much of a dickhead

[Anonymous No.3943166]

>>3943111
Keep it up my dude , i like how you drew the legs tho

[Anonymous No.3943180]

how is my loomis head?
Im still trying to learn how to properly cut the circle on the sides but I think im getting there

[Anonymous No.3943187]

>>3943180
Make the chin a little bit longer

[Anonymous No.3943189]

>>3942975
You're drawing what you think is there, not what is. Common beginner mistake. Going to take some time to develop your skills, keep drawing. Pay more attention to what's actually there, don't get lost in the meme from here of doing everything to a 20 decimal perfection level. Ballbark is good enough starting out. Look at your attempts, and if they don't look like the person you're drawing, figure out why. Hint: pay a lot more attention to proportion.

[Anonymous No.3943190]

>>3943180
Keep it up fren, you're working on the foundation that you're going to build on one day.

[Anonymous No.3943191]

>>3943148
>what i want to know is if it has soul
"Soul" is a meme. Knock that off.

[Anonymous No.3943198]

>>3943148
Can you really say you put your soul into this anon? You can do better.

[Anonymous No.3943202]

>>3943198
Damn , I really can....
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3943213]

>>3943166
thanks! definitely gonna keep practicing

[Anonymous No.3943219]

>>3942935
This is when I use reference ...a character of mine.

[Anonymous No.3943221]

>>3943219
are you using mouse

[Anonymous No.3943228]

>>3943221
it's a sketch
it's how i like to sketch
my lineart is not sketchy so

[Anonymous No.3943231]

I fucked up, it was meant to be bowie, why not huh? It doesn't look 3D and the lips are awkardly floating
Anything else? Got any hope?
Will go back to fun with a pencil after this

[Anonymous No.3943233]

I didn't know if this is appropriate for this thread but here it goes.....does anyone have any list of art prompts and or art challenges to share?
My creativity is dying each day and I don't know what to draw in my sketchbook. All I have is figure studies in mine.
I feel like such a ngmi.

[Anonymous No.3943234]

I fucked up, it was meant to be bowie, why not huh? It doesn't look 3D and the lips are awkardly floating
Anything else? Got any hope?
Will go back to fun with a pencil after this

[Anonymous No.3943236]

>>3943234
I know I know chicken scratch, little construction, few smooth shoulder lines, where's the hope my bros?

[Anonymous No.3943272]

Does anyone know where I could potentially find a 3d model of a loomis head? The planes make no sense from a 3d point of view and Id like to see someone rationalize it with a model.

[Anonymous No.3943275]

>>3943272

[Anonymous No.3943290]

>>3943234
anon i tried to draw bowie but since i didn't know what image you referenced from i tried to get it similar...
try individually pracitcing eyes nose and lips, then form the face and poractice forming the face. here's what I drew hope it can help

[Anonymous No.3943300]

Hi I started drawing recently, and would like to know what you think of this little animation I did also the pic is one of my drawnings.

https://youtu.be/jYwHgOdqaBM

[Anonymous No.3943319]

>>3943290
I'm really beg tier for now, just wanted to take a shot at something else, that said, I like yours and this was the pic.
Your drawing looks 3D, that's interesting

[Anonymous No.3943339]

1/2

[Anonymous No.3943341]

2/2

I recently took a break from drawing because I started to get burnt out from studying for 4~ months. Drew these two after a week of no drawing, and my perspective muscles already atrophied a little. Any criticisms would be nice. Also, advice on how to avoid self hatred would be nice

[Anonymous No.3943345]

I really like the gas mask, it looks great, his arms look kind of weird tho.

[Anonymous No.3943350]

>>3943345
Assuming that was for me
Yeah, it's a very awkward pose, idk what I was really going for

[Anonymous No.3943353]

>>3943350
yeah it was for you ^-^, I'd like to give you some tips but I'm just starting to draw. The pose is kinda of saying pls mister don't send me in that 3.6 rotgens hell.

[Anonymous No.3943354]

>>3943180

Good foundation so far. But you've made the classic beginner mistake when studying Loomis. The circle isn't supposed to represent the the entre head, Just the cranium (the round top of your head which holds your brain.) The centre line represents the eyebrows. The distance from that line to the bottom of your circle is the bottom of your nose. Double the distance between the eyebrow and the bottom of the nose and you'll have the distance of the chin. Hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.3943362]

>>3943234
A little flat on the cranium, other than that it's good. Not very chicken scratch desu, just the hair. The construction is also solid cept for the flat head. Bowie has a much longer face with a bigger chin. A good practice is to check your measurements of features by comparing them. Distance between lips and chin, nose and lips, eyes and nose, eyes and lips, etc. Also check angle relationships.
>Will go back to fun with a pencil after this
Nah. Think you can move on now.

[Anonymous No.3943363]

>>3943272
Closest you'll get are Asaro heads

[Anonymous No.3943371]

Trying to understand perspective and 3d forms. Still seems off, especially the arms

[Anonymous No.3943393]

>>3943030
Pro artists, the top 1% of all artists, use reference.
The top 1% of that top 1% do not, or, at least, they don't need to

>>3943035
This is a bad case of learning the minutiae of muscles and bones before the overall proportions, the importance of gesture, or basic form drawing. I beg you to please open up Vilppu's drawing manual and start from chapter 1! You are setting yourself up very badly.

>>3943219
That goes double for you
>>3943228
Then lrn2sketch, there's a lot of ways of doing it and you shouldn't cling to this one arbitrarily.

>>3943341
The perspective on that mask is just close enough it looks alright as a thumbnail but far off enough it looks fucked in the full image. Work on mirroring 3D forms, How to Draw (the book) stuff.

>>3943371
What a promising anon ^ -^ ~
Keep it up. The arms are badly proportioned, for instance the one on the left and middle are too short. Always remember if you lift your arm straight up your elbow is right at the top of the head or a bit above, use that to get the length right. The right's lower arm is even larger than the upper, which is the wrong proportion and doubly wrong when it's going away from us, diminishing in size.

[Anonymous No.3943395]

Two male torso studies/sketches. Erroneously gave dude in red some extra muscle above his hips because I thought I saw it in the reference, but I don't think that exists. Without it the drawing kinda looked wrong, not sure if I exaggerated the tilting too much or there's something weird going on with the stretching.

[TWO WORDS No.3943399]

恥ずかしい

[Anonymous No.3943406]

[Anonymous No.3943412]

>>3943362
So I got some things right out of pure chance? I'm on the blook balls part of fun with a pencil so I haven't seen the meat of the book, taking so long because of, nothing really.
But thanks, I'll think on this next time I draw

[Anonymous No.3943417]

Is there an actual program that can help learn lighting, especially for things such as lightsabers? I was thinking of beginning to work on a project related to Star Wars, but I'm not sure where to even begin with the lighting of such things like that, let alone how to actually do shading and lighting properly when it comes to such things.

I've been working on backgrounds and trying to do things similar to a matte painting, but it's been rather rough so far, especially when it comes to water as well, but I think I'll focus on just the lighting of the main saber first so I actually understand it, because it seems to vary wildly between pieces, movies, shows, comics, etc.

[Anonymous No.3943418]

>>3943412
Well, not fully chance, I applied some effort, thanks again for your advice and help

[Anonymous No.3943421]

>>3943030
Of course they do. A lot of them, like Alma Tedema, or Maxfield Parrish, would buy or build props, costumes, and even build sets for their paintings. Reference is not cheating, and painting everything from your imagination, while a lofty goal, isn't really rational, unless you're cartooning and generating so many scenes it's not practical.
Only drawing from imagination is a meme from here, from anons who had no formal art training, and think the ability of the small percentage of top anime artists and photoshoppers who simple portraits and figures are the only way to create. If you have the skill and experience to do it, great. If not, use reference, and join the ranks of the greatest artists in the world who posed people for their paintings, and used props and sketches and studies and real life as reference.

[Anonymous No.3943422]

[Anonymous No.3943432]

>>3943371
What should I read to start drawing stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.3943436]

If I want to learn LITERALLY WHERE THE FUCK DO I START

Mostly I just want to work on character designs for stuff in my head but I also want to learn some more basic stuff for to illustrate conceptual game design, level design, and game mechanics.

[Anonymous No.3943438]

I got pretty blasted and drew my friend's cat but he kept moving so I didn't get far. but there's something about this I like.

[Anonymous No.3943441]

>>3943422
Nice hands. Those wrists though...
You can leave /beg/ now.

[Anonymous No.3943443]

>>3943422
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.3943445]

>>3943432
Currently watching Vilppu's studio drawing manual series which has been helpful. You can find it on rutracker.

[Anonymous No.3943448]

>>3943436
> LITERALLY WHERE THE FUCK DO I START
With the fundamentals.

>Mostly I just want to work on character designs for stuff in my head but I also want to learn some more basic stuff for to illustrate conceptual game design
Then you have to learn the same stuff everyone else does, starting at step one. Look for the links to the beginning books, and get started.
>level design
Not art
>game mechanics
Also not art. You need game design forums for that kind of thing.

Mostly, chill the fuck out, stop being a demandingbaby, and put some effort into the starting steps. They're discussed, at length, here every day. Nobody is going to hold your hand and lead you every step.

[Anonymous No.3943449]

How do you guys personally translate to digital painting? I feel so lost when it comes to it.

I can paint fine by hand due to different brush sizes and the way my hand moves, but it doesn't work quite the same digitally for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.3943451]

>>3943449
There's no real step by step process, you just have to work it out. There's a ton of overlap, but digital is not oil or watercolor. You just have to keep at it. I painted for more years than I want to admit before I got into digital, and it took me a couple of months to really start getting confident, and developed a headspace where I could translate things.
Start simple. Learn how to control your brushes on the fly (I have the Photoshop controls burned into my brain and don't even think about it), and learn how to use opacity, pressure, and size to replicate what you'd do with a brush.

[Anonymous No.3943452]

whats a good eye tutorial. not realistic. im looking for one with construction and stuff. i cant draw or understand eyes for somereason
maybe its cause of eyes are complex and they show a lot of emotion.

[Anonymous No.3943454]

>>3943452
Loomis

[Anonymous No.3943456]

>>3943451
I was hoping there might be a specific brush or setting that I was just missing, but that's fine too. I'm more used to painting by hand when I do paint. I can do it by mouse, but it takes ages, more than I'm willing to admit myself and it's not particularly worth the time invested for the outcome.

I'm a lot more used to SAI as well, since PS is very wonky on my end since I have Windows 8.1, but I guess I'll just have to keep practicing myself. Thanks anon, appreciate the help.

[Anonymous No.3943459]

>>3943436
>some more basic stuff for to illustrate conceptual game design, level design, and game mechanics.
I used to have vague notions of doing different things like this. I think it's important to clarify your goals a bit so you know what you're in for.
Drawing/Painting -> illustration or concept art. Not much game design there I'm afraid. Instead you'll be spending your time drawing things for clients. Is that what you really want?
Start with the sticky if you're a complete complete beginner. Then move on to more advanced stuff. You're going into an entire course though and you'll be learning a profession, so keep that in mind. It's a long road as a /beg/ and there's much to learn. Post a drawing so we know where ya at.

[Anonymous No.3943460]

1/2

[Anonymous No.3943461]

are these ok drawings?

[Anonymous No.3943463]

>>3943454
kke

[Anonymous No.3943474]

>>3943088
I like the style you are going with, but it's maybe way too stiff.
Mostly for the hair...like if it was made out of plastic.

[Anonymous No.3943475]

>>3943461
>>3943460
They are...ok i guess
But not really interesting.

[Anonymous No.3943482]

romans

[Anonymous No.3943495]

>>3943475
how can I make it interesting?

[Anonymous No.3943496]

>>3943460
>>3943461
atleast u start somewhere. thers no really bad drawing. there is just that you can always get better. so looms fun with pencil is what you should see

[Anonymous No.3943504]

>>3943417
I managed to put this together. It's meant to be a green/swamp like beach in the background. I know there are plenty of mistakes of course, but I'm having problems doing the lighting, I wanted to try a very simplistic (sort of anime approach to lighting), but clothes and folds are so bad, especially when I have no real reference or something similar to what I want to do, especially as there is likely two light sources within the pic.

Usually I'm embarrassed to post my art, especially since I'm trying to relearn and haven't drawn properly since I was about 13. Any help could be appreciated. I understand a northwest light will cast a southeast shadow, but there is more to light than just that and I'm still struggling on a lot of aspects when it comes to just drawing.

It's not done, but I figured I'd go ahead and post and get some feedback in regards to it.

[Anonymous No.3943508]

Ok, don't chew me out please, not the first time I try this one, lots of legitimate mistakes but others were caused by me using a phone and zooming in the image i.e always at the start on the head, and that ruins the scale of things, after I noticed that I didn't have enough space I started doing it faster.
Now, this should be half valid, I'll print the original and do it correctly tomorrow or during the weekend.

>what do you get about my beg level from this uncomplete exercise?

[Anonymous No.3943510]

I decided to finish this, anything you would improve? I want to show that time stopped so I only drew half the rain drops, but I gotta do a better lightning using a ref

[Anonymous No.3943514]

>>3943508
By chew out I meant at first, before the explanation, made lots of mistakes and I'd be grateful if someone were to reply.

[Anonymous No.3943518]

>>3943508
if you made a comic in this style I would read it daily

[Anonymous No.3943525]

>>3943508
Also when should I use my shoulder for lines, tried some and it was awkard, I missed my mark.
>tfw just found I have a sketch pad and some big pages
Oh well
>>3943518
I'm sure Picasso would have some trouble with that, wherever he is.
Could call it pablo may cry though (sorry I love that "pun")

[Anonymous No.3943551]

Not a jeanne this time.
I tried to use a reference this time for the pose >>3939795 and I noticed a significant improvement in my draw compared to the previous thread.
The question now is how much of a reference can I use?
I mean, even using 100% the pose of the photo, can I still claim this draw as my work?

[Anonymous No.3943553]

>>3943482
I dunno does anyone have tips on how to draw roman curls or just tips in general for this I really don’t know were to start

[Anonymous No.3943560]

>>3943393
here's your sketch

[Anonymous No.3943562]

I'm proud of what I just made : )

[Anonymous No.3943567]

>>3942935
Hello /ic/.

[Anonymous No.3943574]

>>3943553
barque plates.

[Anonymous No.3943582]

>>3943551
Even if we were enemies, I’d have no way of knowing where you got your reference from let alone if you used one. The only caution from that is potential stiffness.

>>3943567
>>3941717
You’re awfully good at cheating.
A style like that does most of your work so all you need is speed (or a better schedule) then you’ll be set.

[Anonymous No.3943605]

>>3943582
>enemies
lmao do you live in an anime?

[Anonymous No.3943614]

>>3943551
Yes

[Anonymous No.3943621]

>>3943371
What are some books tha teach you construction and perspective on the human body ?

[Anonymous No.3943625]

>>3943582
>I see, that was my concern while I was doing that drawing. Interesting arguments in the thread you posted too. thanks and no worries bro, we all gonna make it.
>>3943614
got it, thanks

[Anonymous No.3943628]

>>3943625
dammit, misused greentext

[Anonymous No.3943642]

>>3943625
Lmao i love that image , dont draw from anime kids

[Anonymous No.3943653]

>>3943642
You're being dumb on purpose right.

[Anonymous No.3943654]

>>3943504
Any help with this lads? I'm at an impasse at this point personally.

[Anonymous No.3943660]

>>3943654
Draw from life for 2 years then try again

[Anonymous No.3943663]

>>3943660
I wouldn't particularly call that advice in any way. It's like telling everyone in the thread to just go practice and then come back in a couple years. It doesn't really do any one any good with any actually improvement because they're not understanding exactly what it is they have a particularly problem with or need help with other than just "gitgud". Especially when it comes to the lighting of an object that isn't actually real. But thanks anyway for the obvious advice I suppose.

[Anonymous No.3943664]

>>3943663
Well, there's not much else to say. He can't define forms well enough to place shadows.

[Anonymous No.3943666]

>>3943664
Then that would probably be better advice to tell him then, no, and to help him actually work on that on. Telling someone to just gitgud and leave is why people give up on art.

[Anonymous No.3943668]

no /sketchabook/

[Anonymous No.3943676]

>>3943666
Fair enough

>>3943504
You can't light an object without having a complete understanding of it's surface in 3d space, anything less than this will be a cope and a complete waste of time.

You need to install a 3d rendering engine in your head. From now on you only draw cubes, spheres, cones and planes, and your goal is to combine and blend these in a way that eventually matches reality.
Read/watch Vilpuu, Hampton, Peter Han's Dynamic Bible, Don't copy from photo's if you can avoid it. Consider drawing from life about 10x as productive as from a photo, until the 3d software is ingrained into your head.

[Anonymous No.3943682]

What are some good tutorials or tips for drawing eyes on a human head? I'm trying to get better at drawing faces from observation and photographs, but it's always the eyes that make it look really off (their too big, or just look flat).

[Anonymous No.3943690]

>>3943663
>>3943666
Thank you anon.
>>3943664
I don't think its too bad, I mean the background is admittedly, but unless I'm just an ugly person, I don't think I'm terrible at forms at least.
>>3943676
Well thank you for the legit advice. I do that a lot actually, it's mostly just the lightsaber I'm confused on, I don't really know how that gives off light , I can understand the rest of the shading, just not how much that particular thing gives off light, everyone seems to do it differently and it doesn't help, even using a toy one is weird since there are different variants of light, some give off strong lights, some don't, I'm not sure what would be the correct way to go about it with that object. Would it be a light light, or a strong light?

But I'll keep practicing either way and work on it, thank you.

[Anonymous No.3943732]

I'm training cross hatching am I doing this right?

[Anonymous No.3943751]

>>3943510
awaken my masters

[Anonymous No.3943753]

>>3943751

It only works if you play the song.

[Anonymous No.3943760]

>>3943751
She's supposed to be on her knees ready to get rekt, but now I see it like the awaken scene dammit

[Anonymous No.3943769]

>>3943676
>>3943504
Try this video Anon for light effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVfhrgcM1Pc

[Anonymous No.3943782]

Posted this in the other beg thread as well, not sure which if this is the correct one but,
Complete beginner here. I was suggested to do gesture drawing & drawabox. Is it normal to not fucking understand gesture at all from the get go? My brain fights me so hard with where I "should" put lines. I've watched Proko's videos gesture & started reading Michael Hampton's "Figure Drawing, Design and Invention" and I just can't seem to get my brain to "get" it.

[Anonymous No.3943783]

>>3943769
:^)

[Anonymous No.3943785]

I'm going to sleep. Here is 30 minutes of gesture drawing. Sorry they overlap. I don't know if I am fully getting it yet, but tell me what you guys think. I am proud of the ones that I did from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3943789]

>>3943782
Ditch gesture for now, form and perspective is more important. Gesture will be really obvious to you when it becomes the limiting factor, and you’ll find yourself obsessively studying it if you are still doing art by then.

[Anonymous No.3943792]

>>3943789
Interesting, so why exactly was I recommended gesture study as something I should start with by a few people? Not doubting you, of course, just curious is all.

[Anonymous No.3943793]

>>3943789
What are good resources for form and perspective pertaining to figure drawing?

[Anonymous No.3943797]

>>3943395
It looks amazing , exaggeration the pose isnt always a bad thing , its is better than underdoing it

[Anonymous No.3943798]

>>3943792
No idea. You can go pro with stiff figures, check out the art you see in the media.
>>3943793
Join a >>>life drawing class<<< and do the sticky

[Anonymous No.3943804]

>>3942935
Can someone give me some pointers on perspective, making poses look natural?
1/2

[Anonymous No.3943805]

>>3943804
I discovered that my phone of 3 years has a brightness option lol
2/2

[Anonymous No.3943809]

>>3943504
Brother you pictures main barrier is that white background. Light cannot exists without darkness, in order to make the glow visible it must be surrounded by darker areas. A white background means that there is light everywhere, start by giving it a dark background and then it should feel more intuitive.

[Anonymous No.3943823]

Newfag here, is it better to use raster or vector layers for your lineart?

[Anonymous No.3943827]

>>3943823
raster assuming you're not doing web2.5 meme flat art

[Anonymous No.3943828]

>>3943809
Holy crap anon, you just casually finished the piece while giving advice, but it looks so cool

[Anonymous No.3943832]

>>3943823

I use vectors in CSP but that's because you can direct draw on them.

[Anonymous No.3943850]

First time trying something like this.

What brush do I use for shading/painting these things?

I usualy only draw sketches so any basic painting advice would help.

[Anonymous No.3943873]

>>3943850
Painting is about form and light and edges. The most basic way to explain it is that. Lights illuminate the form and the knowledge of the from tells you how dark/light the places should it be.

>What brush do I use for shading/painting these things?
Ultimately it on matters on what you are comfortable with but because ther are bot hard and soft edges it is recommended that you use a brush with pressure sensitivity you do not need to switch between hard and less hard brushes all the time.

here a videro by Sinix about the topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE

[Anonymous No.3943874]

I'm kinda proud of the composition I created here, it could probably be polished into a proper drawing outside of Paint and be a great comic cover. Just showing it off.

[Anonymous No.3943878]

>>3943874
It is a triangular composition, very good for the topic you have chosen good job anon.

[Anonymous No.3943879]

>>3942935
is it just me or is there something wrong with this artwork? It's like her tit is too low down and awkwardly placed

[Anonymous No.3943881]

>>3943443
https://youtu.be/xDAsABdkWSc
>tfw no chad hampton to unfuck your shit

[Anonymous No.3943882]

>>3943879
This is the /beg/ thread Anon. Post YOUR work not other people's works.

[Anonymous No.3943884]

>>3943879
Just an illusion anon. It goes roughly there, tits are almost aligned with the end of the ribcage and the drawing matches that. There's also the shoulder, tits aren't at the same height as the shoulders, and that boob is roughly below it.

It MAY be wrongly placed but if it's true it'll be by a few centimeters, you're cherrypicking. I see it wrong and sometimes I see it right, it depends on my bias when looking at the picture.

[Anonymous No.3943885]

>>3943769
Thank you.
>>3943809
Wow, anon you honestly didn't have to finish it at all, I actually don't know what to say. I was just looking for some general advice, but that looks amazing. I'll take what you did and learn and help practice as well. Don't really know of any way I can repay you other than that. Thanks a lot!

[Anonymous No.3943887]

this is a commission for someone, but im really stuck on the eyes and dont want it to look janky

[Anonymous No.3943889]

hello /beg/, I am having trouble visualizing the body beneath this model's clothed section.

I am having trouble visualizing the twisting of her waist and her left (viewer's pov) leg.

[Anonymous No.3943892]

>>3943887
is it a low shot where we are looking up on him?

[Anonymous No.3943893]

>>3943892
it's roughly this angle - his head is tilted up, but the camera faces him dead on

[Anonymous No.3943894]

>>3943893
this is a better example

[Anonymous No.3943896]

>>3943893
>>3943894
You have got such great refs, what is the part hat makes you unsure then?

[Anonymous No.3943898]

>>3943887
I'm just having fun since the lineart is so editable, but maybe these eyes give you an idea? I don't know if it'd look better with bigger eyes, I draw them like this. I also made the top of the head a bit smaller but Idk I'm a /beg/

[Anonymous No.3943899]

>>3943896
i'm confused about the positioning of the eyelids, i guess. i don't want him to look like a wide-eyed maniac. his lids should be a little heavy

[Anonymous No.3943905]

>>3943898
i love that! thank you

[Anonymous No.3943913]

>>3943893
>>3943887
>>3943899
Like this? Or this is exactly what you do not want?

On how to do this,, it is still an upwards looking shot so the lower eyelid can form a straight line and the upper eyelid form a roof over it.

[Anonymous No.3943914]

>>3943913
i really like how you made the nose scrunch.

should the eyebrows overlap the eye?

[Anonymous No.3943917]

>>3943914
>should the eyebrows overlap the eye?
not in this angle

[Anonymous No.3943923]

>>3943913
>>3943917
thnk u bros. should i go with this or this>>3943914

[Anonymous No.3943938]

think i got it.

thx senpai.

[Anonymous No.3943946]

>>3943923
does someone really pay for this?

[Anonymous No.3943956]

>>3943946
yeah, he offered. i only charged him $7, the finished image will be coloured and shaded

[Anonymous No.3943958]

>>3943956
fair enough, $7 sounds about right

[Anonymous No.3943985]

>>3943898
Needs an eye patch.

[Anonymous No.3944038]

Have I actually made any progress or do my symbols just like nicer?

Thinking about it I'm starting to doubt it's worth posting but I've noticed that when you guys tell me to git gud it actually motivates me to improve.

Besides I want to grind some heads before I get a new sketchpad to continue Drawabox but I don't want to waste my time making the same mistakes that I'm making.

Please, spoonfeed me motivation.

[Anonymous No.3944042]

>>3944038
You don’t get it yet >>3943881

[Anonymous No.3944043]

>>3944038
Yeah you've gotten better, but definitely keep it up anon for sure, can't wait to see future progress.

[Anonymous No.3944092]

>>3943567
Silly waifufag, everyone wants to fuck Makoto and Mai when it comes to BlazBlue while giving out free likes to Under Night.
You’ll just have to accept a quiet life with few followers if you don’t cave in.

[Anonymous No.3944132]

>>3943878
Wtf how do you recognise these things?

[Anonymous No.3944136]

>>3943562
You shouldnt , even that shit looks like shit

[Anonymous No.3944137]

I think I'll stop with this sessions for a while. I remember some anon said one should move on from an exercise when one feels one's gains hit a plateau, and it's been a week since I felt I understood something new.

I also just want to work through Huston faster and focus on drawing the figure less loosely, then if my drawings start to stiffen I could come back and really work on gesture/movement/action (right now my drawings feel somewhere inbetween gesture and figure).

I'm curious about how someone else would handle these poses. One thing I certainly learned is that not everyone draws gesture the same way. If you'd like to give it a try here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1rwangC3k

>>3943797
Thank you, anon! I think I had some trouble with perspective. Did a quick fix on it trying to keep the same tilting but removing that extra muscle.

[Anonymous No.3944139]

>>3944132
Because composition can also be learned. Have you watched the "understanding composition" video yet? Maybe it will be helpful to you as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8i7OKbWmRM

[Anonymous No.3944140]

>>3944139
O shit , i didnt even knew this existed, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3944164]

2nd day of training
Maybe manga style isn't the best way to learn draw ??

[Anonymous No.3944166]

New to digital art and I'm using azpainter on Linux. Is there an in-depth guide anywhere on the Internet on making custom brushes?

[Anonymous No.3944169]

>>3944164
get Loomis

[Anonymous No.3944178]

>>3944136
if a shit looks like shit I did it right!

[Anonymous No.3944315]

>>3944310
double posting

[Anonymous No.3944367]

Been doing more digital stuff and wanted to try painting. Thoughts so far?

[Anonymous No.3944374]

>>3944315
4 months.
1 to figure out how to actually draw faces and bodies, (hopefully) 1 to iron out your beginner flaws with each upload, 1 to get some imagination, and 1 to understand how backgrounds work.

[Anonymous No.3944382]

What do you think about my drawing,Frens.

[Anonymous No.3944384]

Okay so should i do gesture drawing without knowing anything or do i kind of have to learn how to do it efficiently?

[Anonymous No.3944389]

>>3944384
Draw someone proud and full of confidence right now. If you can’t or feel self-loathing from your drawing then you should go learn.

[Anonymous No.3944401]

>>3944389
Ok so this is my best shot, not that happy with it. Should i go for vilppu's manual?

[Anonymous No.3944409]

>>3943562
Made me laugh

[Anonymous No.3944415]

>>3944367

[Anonymous No.3944460]

>>3944374
Not him, but I would also like to be that good. How do I learn?
Do I just repetetively drawing from reference photos for hours every day?

It's so overwhelming to look at the type of stuff I'd like to draw, knowing that I have no clue where to start.

[Anonymous No.3944461]

>>3944401
Indeed, with gesture you will also be able to come up with things without the need of reference.

[Anonymous No.3944472]

Any idea how to get a "grainy" coloring like this on Photoshop? It looks like old anime and once you pay attention, you'll see the coloring on the hair for example isn't flat, there's a little... noise, going on.
Is that literally it? A noise filter? Or is it a special brush? I wanna paint like that

[Anonymous No.3944479]

>>3944401
look at his shoulders in your drawing. like, the distance between his trap and his armpit. thats the main problem. fix the traps and shoulders. maybe widen the back and the waist. men don't have hourglass figures. but then also with his hands, his two bent fingers should be on his hips. on yours theyre just arbitrarily sitting in the center pointing at his dick. and you angled his head too much to the side.

i dont believe this took more than 3 minutes to draw. so it again, spend a little longer.

[Anonymous No.3944482]

>>3944367
>>3944415
I really really like the colors on your reference, anon.

Breasts look a bit stiff, though, try to go for a teardrop shape. Highlights are closer to white than you are showing, I think. Keep it in mind, you can fix it later. I imagine this is harder than grayscale, not sure if the work from big shapes to small shapes thing still applies here. It also looks like you're adding too much orange and not enough yellow, but maybe you'll do that later.

I like it so far, would like to see it once it's finished.

[Anonymous No.3944487]

>>3944460
Draw this animu until you get a rough sketch you like. Once you have that, you can make things to draw over.
It helps to learn construction but if Loomis doesn’t suit you then you’ll have to find some abstract solution to drawing heads and bodies.

[Anonymous No.3944504]

Hows the backnatomy?

[Anonymous No.3944505]

>>3944472
if youre doing photoshop, you could duplicate the layer then throw dome gaussian blur on it, then set the duplicate to screen or multiply or whatever. experimenting is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.3944541]

>>3943432
>>3943621

[Anonymous No.3944549]

>>3944482
Noted. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.3944563]

> been Drawing with Wrist / forearm
Is it worth giving using the whole arm solely a shot for drawing. I'm tempted to try to work with only using my forearm > arm to draw only. I need some opinions

[Anonymous No.3944571]

how do i draw like this?

[Anonymous No.3944572]

>>3944563
hey anon, fellow wrist/forearm user. long sessions give me occasional tightness, i stretch often, am still young. am concerned once my body deteriorates. i am trying to incorporate whole arm from the shoulder now. had i tired to use it as often as possible before it would have been more conductive to my long term growth, i think.

[Anonymous No.3944576]

>>3944572 show an example of wrist/forearm. and a example of whole arm.

[Anonymous No.3944582]

>>3942094
>>3942076
Still /beg/ so I know it's far from perfect but what stands out as glaringly wrong?

I'm not going for an exact 1 to 1 replication of the pose but I think the ref really helped me get the right idea for what I'm trying to do.

>>3944571
If I had to guess I would say get good and comfortable with construction and gesture and then I think pushing the stylisation of curved and blocky areas. The womans legs and the guys pants for example.

Obviously I'm /beg/ tho so I could be wrong. Definitely just making some guesses after analysing your pic.

[Anonymous No.3944587]

Since Huston uses male torsos to show the sinking of the abdomen when lifting your arms and the V-shaped and related muscles I though of doing it with female torsos before moving on.

Kinda wished he had gone more in depth on gesture sources around the ribcage as he did with the face/head because I find it hard to locate muscles when they are not easily visible and think I messed up the wrapping lines on first drawing for that reason, but also it probably would have been too hard to follow.

[Anonymous No.3944594]

>>3944576
what do you mean? i am still using a variety of strokes, but neglected to develop my shoulder coordination, which i now want esp. for painting.

[Anonymous No.3944595]

tablet came in today, Huion H1060P, breddy good
spent all day getting used to it before I tried doing anything, this is just a rough tracejob that I slapped some shit onto
feels like Photoshop doesn't have many options for imitating a pen, they all seem to try and imitate pencils or brushes so I'll download some sets

[Anonymous No.3944596]

>>3944594
I know I thought you were still using shoulder sometimes I thought you might have had some examples of it I'm drawing form my shoulder right now.i'll post it when I'm done with it.

[Anonymous No.3944615]

Why are the facial features (eyes, nose and mouth) so bloody hard to draw, both from real life and imagination?

[Anonymous No.3944637]

What the fuck is wrong with me? I can do great studies and a couple months back I was able to put together figures no problem. Now I can't make things look good no matter what I do.

[Anonymous No.3944646]

>>3944582
Here's a cleaner version.

The head is meant to be looking down but I'm still not sure about the shape/size or angle of it.

I realised the shins were too short and extended them.

[Anonymous No.3944651]

>>3944582
the problem for me is that i have no idea how do i ''mash'' that stuff with my art my explanation is shit tho

[Anonymous No.3944652]

>>3944401
Hows this?

[Anonymous No.3944660]

>>3944637
when i feel really out of sync with my figures doing a few 30sec/1min gesture help me loosen up.

>>3944646
it looks like she is scrunching her neck back while looking down.

[Anonymous No.3944717]

I'm pretty happy with this but idk how to develop it. I have zero creativity when it comes to women's hair and clothes. And I'm fucking dogshit at shading. Ideas?

[Anonymous No.3944720]

>>3943804
>>3943805
Please help me ;_;

[Anonymous No.3944734]

>>3944720
Do these https://www.quickposes.com/en every day. Then read "Michael Hampton figure drawing", you poses should improve.

[Anonymous No.3944768]

>>3943873
Not that anon but thank you.

[Anonymous No.3944799]

For Loomis, the heads I construct aren't anywhere near the level of the ones in the book. Is that OK, and just getting the fundamentals of construction down is what I should be focusing on?

[Anonymous No.3944807]

>>3944799
Whether the proportions are atleast 90% correct is the most important, especially with the heads. If that's terrible then construction is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.3944809]

First time watercolor, been drawing for a few months tho. I really like this medium, looking for any tips on how to get started and what to improve on

[Anonymous No.3944817]

>>3943958
7 dollars is too much for that. I need to start taking commissions if I can fuck around and earn enough to buy a few pizza slices

[Anonymous No.3944818]

>>3944717
The hair at the back and the eyes look a little off

[Anonymous No.3944823]

>>3944807
Alright, so proportions first then work on the features, thanks for the help. One last thing, is it alright to work on other parts independent of the construction? Such as practicing noses, eyes, etc.

[Anonymous No.3944835]

Can material study be posted here? I did a blood cylinder this morning.

[Anonymous No.3944903]

>>3942935

[Anonymous No.3944927]

>>3944835
blood cylinder. what

[Anonymous No.3944938]

what can I do better in terms of shadows and fuck else, I guess?

[Anonymous No.3944942]

>>3944835
Good shit Anon keep going!

[Anonymous No.3944947]

>>3944927
Look at this pleb, not owning a blood cylinder. How else are you supposed to water your mosquitoes?

[Anonymous No.3944958]

I don't try this very often

[Anonymous No.3944983]

I have added some mods to my drawing, is it getting there anons?

[Anonymous No.3944991]

I KEEP TRYING DAY AFTER DAY AND YET THE MORE I LEARN THE LESS I UNDERSTAND

[Anonymous No.3944998]

>>3944991
No Anon it is just your Dunning Kruger illusion crumbling and accepting that you never understood anything. And that is fine.

[Anonymous No.3945001]

>>3944998
it feels like everyone here is so much better and learns so much faster than I am. is that normal?

[Anonymous No.3945007]

>>3945001
You'll find your way.

[Anonymous No.3945011]

>>3945001
Yes, you are just insecure because you feel that you have "missed something important all this time"while others didn't. Not the case, everyone always had and has these thoughts.

I know this is hard but if anything I can encourage you to try and channel the energy your sudden negative emotions are flooding you with to something constructive like (cliche I know) drawing. Try to draw something easy and mechanical that has no stakes attached. Attaching less significance to what you have missed what you can accomplish by doing something can help.

[Anonymous No.3945013]

>>3945001
Don't even worry about vague feelings of disparity you assume from strangers on the internet. For one, you're not even close to getting a full picture, and secondly you shouldn't be comparing yourself to others (and their apparent progress) but comparing yourself to your past self.
Everyone has highs and lows where their ability outstrips their eye and vice versa.
Just keep at it my brother

[Anonymous No.3945055]

>>3944958
Cant tell if those are supposed to be windows or paintings.

[Anonymous No.3945076]

gar bidge ahh

[Anonymous No.3945098]

>>3944582
her shoulders dont go like that and neither do her legs. why did you make her thighs so wide? and then you have her hyperextended knees and duck feet.

[Anonymous No.3945164]

Missed the new thread, I thought OP would post the link to the new thread as always.

Anyway, I inked the thing. Here’s the bare linework. Did it get worse?

[Anonymous No.3945181]

>>3945164
it looks like those eyes are painted onto her eyelids. and it doesnt make sense that we can see the underside of her nose from an overhead view

[Anonymous No.3945197]

>>3945181
God fucking damn it, I forgot to consider the perspective on the nose. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3945202]

>>3945098
I like thicc thighs on my men?

[Anonymous No.3945210]

>>3944382

Good for age 4-10

[Anonymous No.3945211]

>>3944818
Yea as I said in my comment I didn't do anything with the hair yet. What do you think it's off about the eyes? I don't see it. Would appreciate you telling me so I can fix it.

[Anonymous No.3945212]

>>3944382

Why is the furniture outside the house? Why is the Simpsons character fishing for geese?

[Anonymous No.3945265]

Couple drawings from arm

[Anonymous No.3945294]

>>3944472
Take a picture of textured paper. Set layer to overlay. Probably could scan it as well. Then adjust layer as necessary(opacity/hue/brightness ect) . Even construction paper can have enough texture to add an interesting look you just have to mess with it. I use this one sometimes because it's not uniform. Adds randomness.

[Anonymous No.3945299]

>>3944472
>>3945294
This one is from one of the TRIGGER live draws. They used it the same way. It's just basically random generated clouds in PS but it adds randomness/texture.

[Anonymous No.3945621]

Does she look manly? What would you change? Something is ugly about this.

[Anonymous No.3945624]

>>3945621
Your proportions are out of whack. Insert a box to check your placements.

[Anonymous No.3945629]

[Anonymous No.3945635]

>>3945624
What do you mean insert a box?

[Anonymous No.3945644]

[Anonymous No.3945697]

[Anonymous No.3945714]

>>3945621
Doesn't look manly at all did you use a ref?

[Anonymous No.3945715]

>>3945697
Good stuff Anon, would fap!

[Anonymous No.3945739]

>>3945714
No ref. I know how ic gets about these things. I am specifically trying to learn to draw better without refs tho. I can copy someone else's work just fine.

[Anonymous No.3945755]

>>3945621
I would make the neck thinner, and believe the ear should be between the top of the eye and bottom of the nose, it would be that low only if she was facing up. I put it a back higher because it seemed right for the perspective

Probably fucked up the pose you were going for but also thought ther back was a bit too wide. I get the feel her eyes are crossed, but idk.

[Anonymous No.3945757]

>>3944401
Okay so i watched some videos and looked at some books today, this is what i came up with. Spent 5 mins or so on both. Any criticisms? Also should i draw smaller?

References are here
>>3939783
>>3939784
Btw how can i edit references and the drawings into one pic on phone? Pic collage apps i've tried crop them to fit into a picture unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.3945759]

>>3945757
Ah yes ofc i forgot to post it

[Anonymous No.3945764]

>>3945697
I was just reading this book about fetishes. They claim the futa /shemale attraction is based on an optical illusion. First of all gay dudes do not watch that kind of porn at all.

Second, they do eye tracking studies to see what men focus on. Universally across all cultures, straight men focus on firm breasts, round butts, wide hips small feet and big penises. Not that many dudes actually fixate on vaginas. But for one reason or another, maybe it's a competition thing, evolutionarily, this is what your subconscious is focusing on when you watch fap material. So if you can get it all in a single frame your brain will latch onto that as it's go-to.

Try to draw all those elements in a single picture, maybe you'll have to use a portal or split screen or a contortionist to do it, but it will gain attention.

That's if you want to fuck the futa or shemale. If you want to BE the futa or shemale, that also isn't gay. It's an extreme form of submissiveness combined with an idea of women that they are as shallow as their physical appearance and live for nothing other than the ecstacy of an orgasm that comes from being dominated and penitrated.

[Anonymous No.3945769]

Oh boy. I should have tried to draw from imagination after the first week or two of figure and gesture drawing, haha. I'll try to finish some of these later.

2 minutes arms to warm up for chapter 9.

[Anonymous No.3945780]

>>3945755
I appreciate you giving the effort. I agree with a bunch of it. You're right about the ear and eyes.i think the width of the neck was why I thought it looked manly. The back in gonna leave as is for now but again I really do appreciate you taking the time.

[Anonymous No.3945786]

>>3945299
>>3945294
Man really thank you, now I feel compelled to finish a drawing and show it here but I'm too busy this weekend

[Anonymous No.3945805]

>>3944595
>have a ton of ideas on what to draw
>no idea how to actually do it

I guess starting with perspective, composition and learning how to make environments would be a start

[Anonymous No.3945815]

>>3945805
Slap your idea down in stick figures and with words of you have to. Then go from big picture down to details. What has to fit in this frame?start there

[Anonymous No.3945822]

>>3945164
Pretty nice and clean, I even see some improvements on the face proportions xcept for what the other anon said.
>>3943913
>>3943898
Check those for tips on the eyes. Right now they look painted on the head, you gotta start putting in some marks so they properly feel like eyeballs inserted in eye sockets in the head, more 3d and all that jazz.
I can't explain it better but just look at the pics. Of course making that for a girl character can make her look too aggressive or masculine so don't go overboard, or experiment idk

[Anonymous No.3945823]

>>3944835
Pretty good, I would suggest more hard edges and maybe fix the lighting a bit,the colour is there imo, blood is very dark

[Anonymous No.3945828]

>>3945715
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.3945835]

>>3945805
Do perspective and form, composition, and lines / values. It will pave the way for environments

[Anonymous No.3945836]

Anything you see about what's already there that I should do better? https://youtu.be/xHBmRj0vVN0

[Anonymous No.3945854]

>>3945629

[Anonymous No.3945922]

>>3943873
Seems easy enough, I gave it a try.

I made this one with a hard edge brush with opacity jitter, like the video said.

Tried to pick something simple to copy for my first coloured picture, picking colour is hard.

[Anonymous No.3945924]

>>3945922
Forgot picture

[Anonymous No.3945957]

Tried to draw a robot

[Anonymous No.3945991]

>>3945854
really like this. anywhere you post your work?

[Anonymous No.3946002]

>>3945991

[Anonymous No.3946003]

>>3942935
Quick sketch of a crab.

[Anonymous No.3946015]

>>3946002
tell mee

[Anonymous No.3946025]

Anyone have something for draw feet's?

[Anonymous No.3946028]

>>3946015
zar_kae on twitter

[Anonymous No.3946048]

>>3946028
dang, thanks. i love your work so much. such a gorgeous flow to these forms

[Anonymous No.3946061]

did i capture the motion here well? in the vid the person is turning his head to the right. would also appreci8 general feedback

[Anonymous No.3946074]

>>3945755
thanks again for your suggestions. i thought i'd show you the final product. Besides the ear and the neck i also played with the shading and highlights a little digitally.

[Anonymous No.3946079]

>>3946061
the head tilt direction is different. which is why his mouth is at a different angle. also check out the distance between his nose and the left side of his face. increasing or decreasing that space changes the angle he's turning his head. so the photo is turned more to the left, yours is facing more forward. i mean there is a lot to talk about but those are just 2 things that stand out immediately. i mean... just generally the facial features are very cartoony. i would recommend practicing noses eyes mouths and ears individually.

[Anonymous No.3946081]

>>3946061

not >>3946079
but basically what anon said
also neck should be a tad longer

[Anonymous No.3946086]

>>3946074
You're welcome, anon. Looks pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.3946087]

Please my masters, help me decide which arm looks better, or if neither is accurate. I wanna make this a nice painting and I don't want to look back on it and notice a glaring mistake 1 month later, I wanna get at least that right.
For the record I tried doing the pose myself on the mirror and the 2nd one is more accurate but I think the exaggeration makes the 1st one look better but give me your opinion.

[Anonymous No.3946106]

>>3946087
the shoulder should start a little bit more to the right, looks to me. the right ver looks more accurate angle-wise

and don't feel bad about looking back on art a month later and hating it. that means you've grown!

[Anonymous No.3946107]

>>3946106
oop, forgot to say red circles are where shoulder should start at. experiment a bit moving the arm position around

[Anonymous No.3946111]

>>3946107
>>3946106
Thanks mate, It does makes sense since the shoulders are at the sides of the body.. man that sounds really obvious written down. Hopefully I finish it in a few hours.

[Anonymous No.3946114]

>>3946087
right looks more accurate, the left could work but the muscles are way off

[Anonymous No.3946154]

[Anonymous No.3946155]

>>3946154
>rotated
God damnit WHY

[Anonymous No.3946167]

just fuck me at this point. I should just do more crappy realism studies I guess.

[Anonymous No.3946173]

>>3946167
If it's any consolation, it's still far above the average anime girl /beg/s can draw.
A mini tip would be that hair is kinda like a 2nd head for most anime.
Here, I just did the hair a bit higher and now it looks like passable animu to me.

But you should always eat some realism pills to hone your craft

[Anonymous No.3946177]

>>3946173
Oh yeah I kinda forgot about that, I adhered to that rule in this drawing i did on tuesday.

[Anonymous No.3946187]

>>3946177
Alright you tried. I see there's the big anime head there... but at the angle you used it, you didn't do the hair right.
This is supposed to make the head look NOT flat. Your drawing would be right I guess if she was under the rain with her hair soaking wet.

Something like this should be done in that case. REmember, the objective is to make it look not flat. Don't stick the hair to the top of the head too much.
But yeah draw a lot and practice realism, you will improve your lines and general confidence drawing, I'm looking forward to it

[Anonymous No.3946190]

>friend kind of urges me to accept commissions
>feel like nothing I draw is very appealing yet
>make commission sheet
>after a couple close friends buy something it's been completely dry for a week
>makes me feel worse about drawing anything so I barely have
I'm taking them down soon probably, don't let people convince you to try and sell your abilities before you think it's worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.3946191]

So hands are hard. I'll try to focus on specific parts and draw bigger.

[Anonymous No.3946194]

>>3946190
Just think about the cash you made but yes, it's true. Knowing you aren't qualified for a job is the worst feeling and I don't think whatever little money you can scrap by is truly worth it if you feel you're scamming your clients.
Man I wish I was a devinatart artist who shamelessly sells his stuff, but we aren't like that.

>>3946191
Good job anon, keep doing that so you don't end up like me >>3946087 stuck for an hour instead of painting because I don't know much about arms.

[Anonymous No.3946196]

>>3946106
>don't feel bad about looking back on art a month later and hating it. that means you've grown!
I guess... I didn't grow. I'll go practise more.

[Anonymous No.3946197]

>>3946191
gonna copy these

[Anonymous No.3946199]

>>3946074
blog?

[Anonymous No.3946222]

>>3945764
That's all well and good anon but will I still be as fond of my qt cross-dressing twinky bf when we hit our 40's, 50's and 60's?

[Anonymous No.3946237]

I feel like the legs could've been drawn better, and the arms look like sticks. The hands should be more visible, but they just turned into a black blob where he's holding the sword. I guess my question is how to draw this more cleanly and have better proportions.

[Anonymous No.3946247]

did this yesterday, any tips about how to improve?

[Anonymous No.3946256]

>>3942935
help

[Anonymous No.3946277]

>>3946237
Besides telling you to learn the fundamentals since you're at a very basic level.. the obvious answer is to not draw that small.
I mean, a black blob if ink ruined it, that wouldn't be very noticeable if you drew bigger.

[Anonymous No.3946301]

Did this, took some time, basic construction, very basic (again)
Honestly any tips for starting seriously? What should be the starting point? Drawabox? Fun with a pencil?

[Anonymous No.3946309]

I just accidentally discovered how to paint in the Jojo Colored manga style... but I'm trying to paint realistic anime like the right. Still a small win if I ever wanna do something more 2D

[Anonymous No.3946313]

>>3946301
You have a future Anon! Keep doing your thing!

[Anonymous No.3946315]

>>3946309
Good shit Necrololita anon!

[Anonymous No.3946316]

>>3946256
Dunno dude, I suck hard myself, but Id say you gotta add some reflection or rim right on the palm so that it could be distinguishable from the torso.

[Anonymous No.3946349]

I'm stuck with her shoulders/neck/hands.

[Anonymous No.3946350]

>>3946313
>You have a future
Do you really think so? I'm way too beginner tier rught now, but thanks for the reply and luck to you too.
I think you already know but the reference was a Seven Samurai still

[Anonymous No.3946364]

>>3946190
Pyw

[Anonymous No.3946423]

[Anonymous No.3946525]

>>3946315
Thanks mate, I'm gonna steal Sakimichan's market in a month or two.
This will take another day to finish but I think I'm getting the hang of it, though I like how it looks with the lineart on.

[Anonymous No.3946535]

>>3946525
it definitely looks better with the lineart imo. but you should shade the clothes and i suggest not outlining the shading. just outline for example, each ab is basically a square, but don't outline the shadow on the ab, just the ab itself. same with the fingers. just my opinion

[Anonymous No.3946540]

>>3946256
this looks so cool. but i agree with the other anon, put some reflection on it to make it shiny. but great job. i genuinely think its really cool

[Anonymous No.3946541]

>>3946535
I didn't think of that, thanks. Yeah don't think I was gonna leave the clothes like that, I just don't get there yet.
And there's the background too, I'll probably look a tutorial on lightning and rain.

[Anonymous No.3946589]

Not sure what to do in order to finish this. I'm a total /beg/ tier faggot, but I really like this and want to finish it but I don't have enough experience to know what to do next- should I just jump into doing detail? What doesn't help is that I only have 1 layer and keep having to correct erroneous brushstrokes.

[Anonymous No.3946659]

i did nothing but gesture and somehow iam lost and scared of the steps after this.

what are some easy workflows to let me ease in into coloring and taking the figure into the next phases?

[Anonymous No.3946663]

What's with the drawing from imagination obsession I see posted about a lot? I'm admittedly still new, but I thought most of the great artists in history drew/painted/sculpted from some form of reference, be it pictures or life models.

[Anonymous No.3946741]

>>3946663
Well we aren't like those artists, I'd say few people are. Painters and sculptors were too.. "artsy". Trying to evoke emotions and feelings or show off a certain painting technique to make people gasp. Nope not into that. I just want to be able to grab my pencil and produce whatever I want, wherever I am, and have fun drawing it. My drawing has 100 points and each reference used will take some points away, it feels like going on a bike with training wheels.

Also I personally believe people who practice mostly from imagination become simply better at drawing. You eventually develop shortcuts at certain textures and better shape manipulation to represent what you want. In the end this means you can do it faster and produce more drawings than people with 0 imagination since you're not limited to looking at a reference 100% of the time and can only take quick peeks to adjust the fine details.
Idk if that's convincing for you. There's the fun aspect, and the getting better at drawing thing too.

[Anonymous No.3946746]

>>3946663
>>3946741
Of course you can also have fun using references and you still get better while relying on them. So it's preference. But I dislike copying, I think we're mostly over that in the artistic medium.

[Anonymous No.3946791]

>>3946663
There's been many art movements in history and each one brought new things, starting from cavemen paintings to those medieval paintings of noblemen getting stabbed while not giving a fuck; and that was the best they could do at the time. Then realism was discovered and showing the beauty of nature was the hot thing. Then it became known that you can follow certain processes to map out 3d people with construction , with Loomis being famous for distributing said knowledge, and that's the point in history we're at right now, with realism (copying real life) being the most basic skill any artist worth their salt has so it's not as interesting as it once was, to artist themselves since normalfags still get impressed by it. Maybe the new trend in the future will be hologram shaping and construction and realism will be both basic skills no one cares much about on their own. Also I'd add it's human nature to want to do whatever you want, so imagination is the free man's choice.

[Anonymous No.3946821]

>>3946349
I think this looks really good, her pose is a little bit unbalanced though, id place her back leg forward or to the side somewhat

[Anonymous No.3946845]

Wanna draw people and been doing gestures for a while, but what is the next recommended step? Simplify the body or learn to add the skeleton next?

[Anonymous No.3946847]

hey guys! literally just started drawing using "keys to drawing" and am a complete beg. am i GMI eventually with hard practice?

[Anonymous No.3946866]

>>3946845
In Huston's book you get some simple structure ideas for main body parts in front, back and side view (I assume he expects you to fill in the gap of drawing them in different perspectives), then you get some key points on drawings each body part, little bits of anatomy and more ideas for structures that more accuretly resemble body parts.

Right now I'm trying to speed through Huston's to start following Hampton, which although seems more daunting, it also feels more natural and in depth.

He proceeds to talk about landmarks, volume and simple skeletons to give a sense of weight to the figure. I'd assume that's the natural thing to do next.

[Anonymous No.3946930]

I feel like im not getting it. even when i am straight copying a painting i cant get it right. i know its not finished but i can already tell my structure is wrong

[Anonymous No.3947002]

Opinions??

[Anonymous No.3947021]

>>3946930
Try overlaying your work on top of the reference to see where it differs. Also mirror your drawing every so often for a fresh perspective.

[Anonymous No.3947161]

Booty

[Anonymous No.3947171]

>>3946589
yup, if you are content with the forms you are expressing you should detail and take care in further aligning your planes. when i try to paint i find it useful to separate my stages via layers, also when i want to experiment and i dont want to wear my undo keybind. i like the red gold grey combo a lot. keep going anon.

[Anonymous No.3947179]

I'm left handed, but I just tried the over-hand pencil grip in my right hand and it feels better. what the fuck

[Anonymous No.3947188]

>>3944504
Nice

[Anonymous No.3947255]

>>3946247
Try using lines

[Anonymous No.3947266]

>>3947002
uh post full pic?

[Anonymous No.3947304]

>>3943105
new new new here. What does frankensteining mean anon

[Anonymous No.3947412]

oof, got a long way to go.

Tried to do a value sketch, so no initial lines, hence the bad proportions. The dude from Ctrl+paint goes from hard edges like the one on the neck to smooth gradients in a cut. Is zooming in and slowly blending colors by color picking everything there is to it?

[Anonymous No.3947421]

are my proportions completely out of wack. both these are way above anything i've been able to do so far

[Anonymous No.3947431]

>>3947002
Uncensored version

[Anonymous No.3947434]

>>3947266
Sure

[Anonymous No.3947451]

David bowie, fun with a pencil, samurai guy here.
Does it look 3D? I think it doesn't. Help me into 3D I need to do it and improve, am I taking too long with fun with a pencil, I had fun this time so that's neat.
What else should I improve? Other than all.

[Anonymous No.3947453]

>>3947451
Why is it that I can't make it 3D?

[Anonymous No.3947455]

>>3947451
>>3947453
Why is it that you made 2 posts?

[Anonymous No.3947458]

>>3947455
Sorry, a quirk. I felt the need to add something after the post was made, my apologies.

[Anonymous No.3947465]

>>3947455
But tell me don't just leave, does it look 3D lad?

[Anonymous No.3947532]

>>3947431
>>3947002
Yes

More

[Anonymous No.3947562]

>>3946301
If you want to learn to construct heads better I'd recommend loomis. Drawabox will help with construction in general and perspective, which you'll need to learn. Keep drawing.Good luck.

[Anonymous No.3947565]

>>3946847
With hard practice you'll always make it. Just keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.3947566]

>>3945764
What if i want to fuck the futa in the ass?

[Anonymous No.3947567]

>>3947161
perfect

[Anonymous No.3947569]

>>3947179
I'm left handed too. kinda want to try this now

[Anonymous No.3947574]

>>3947562
I'm doing loomis, fun with a pencil and failing, fucking great, nothing looks 3D yet, but really, thank you for replying and the help.

[Anonymous No.3947578]

>>3947574
It looks even worse now, fucking A fucking hell

[Anonymous No.3947580]

>>3947421
got buzzed and drew the first un-referenced head i've ever been happy with, i know its not perfect but cheers bros we're all gonna make it

[Anonymous No.3947585]

>>3947574
>>3947578
just do drawabox you'll be fine

[Anonymous No.3947603]

>>3947412
Don't stop Anon this looks good so far. Now comes the harder part of zooming in with a smaller brush and rendering the details. Be sure to either zoom out constantly or have a secondary window open to check on details as you go. It is easy to get lost in the details at this phase!

[Anonymous No.3947605]

>>3947431
>>3947002
not beg

[Anonymous No.3947629]

I haven't actually drawn an irl head like ever so rip.

[Anonymous No.3947639]

Is it normal for brush strokes to look like this in Photoshop? Every artist I've seen seems to get such clean strokes but I just can't do it, even when picking out an in-between color to blend forms it always comes out as a scratchy mess.

[Anonymous No.3947644]

>>3947639
Not sure what the problem is here, maybe turn down the Anti-aliasing?

[Hardstuck No.3947667]

Did some fanart for a contest. First time I used some skeletons in a while. What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.3947696]

>>3947667
Awaken my memesters!

[Anonymous No.3947786]

>>3947639
Maybe disable opacity jitter or change your pens pressure curve to something that makes hitting 100 opacity easier? not sure if that a the problem you mean

[Anonymous No.3947805]

NEW THREAD APPEARS!

>>3947801

Used >>3944835 for new OP

[Anonymous No.3947812]

>>3943460
>>3943461
You fell for the Loomis meme.
By that I mean you read the book but didnt't actually read it.

[Anonymous No.3947816]

>>3943804
Check poses reference on pinterest and practice

[Anonymous No.3947902]

What are some resources for learning to draw effect animations and special effects?

[Anonymous No.3948065]

>>3944164
Dabiiii

[Anonymous No.3948087]

>>3947161
Smal fingers?

[Anonymous No.3948251]

>>3946821
What about now?

[Anonymous No.3948499]

>>3948251
Cute!