/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3920389]

So Nintendo is forcing patreon to take down ANY nintendo related work posted on it, sfw or not.

Just a heads up, if you have one you should remove the nintendo shit before your account gets frozen.

[Anonymous No.3920398]

>>3920389
Hope Nintendo burns in hell

[Anonymous No.3920400]

>>3920389
What is Nintendo's problem

[Anonymous No.3920404]

>>3920400
Nintendo, Sony, and microshaft have really been acting strange lately.

[Anonymous No.3920405]

>>3920404
you mean get high on money? yeah, add apple too btw

[Anonymous No.3920407]

>>3920389
That shitty company no fucking lie ruined my family.

[Anonymous No.3920410]

>>3920389
Not surprising. Nintendo and Disney are doubling down on their no fun allowed policies.
It's their right, but really a fucking dick move, ban the SFW art too? Really?

[Anonymous No.3920412]

>>3920389
is persona nintendo now?

[Anonymous No.3920413]

>>3920407
Where did the bing bing touch you anon? What happened?

[Anonymous No.3920415]

>>3920389
>purges any kind of nsfw fanart of nintendo characters from tumblr and other western websites in the past
>now this
>meawhile pixiv still has tons of pokegirls porn reaching top rankings
I don't understand. Is it only a western Nintendo branch playing inquisition? I imagine japs would get assblasted if this kind of thing happened to them.

[Anonymous No.3920416]

>>3920389
Not doubting you anon because it's Nintendo, but can you put a source on that claim?

[Anonymous No.3920417]

>>3920412
No it atlus property.

[Anonymous No.3920418]

>>3920389
>Check Twitter.
>No fuss about it even.
How do I know you're not lying OP?

[Anonymous No.3920420]

>>3920398
They'll burn on earth too if they keep this up.

[Anonymous No.3920423]

>>3920389
Worst case scenario patreon freezes your account until you remove the content. Really not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.3920425]

>>3920423
I just remember a few years ago when this was happening with tumblr, they just outright deleted your account. I wonder if the same thing will happen with twitter

[Anonymous No.3920429]

>>3920418
last time i checked twitter and patreon are not the same thing retard

[Anonymous No.3920434]

>>3920429
They’re the first to yell out “Attention everyone, something bad happened and you should all watch out.” News like this wouldn’t slip by if it happened.

[Anonymous No.3920437]

>>3920389
Jack conte is a piece of shit. Fuck that lying motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.3920483]

>>3920413
It was all fun and games when I was young. Starfox, Zelda, and Smash Bros. when I was young and playing with my brother. Fucking Pokemon was nice when I was young and playing it with my sister. My mom was always smiling back then. It was nice.

When I became 19 I moved out and kept in contact only by phone. I’d just ask my family how things were going and catch up. I personally stopped giving fucks around the time Bayo 2 came out. A couple years ago I decided to move back home to be closer to the family. I didn’t know what awaited me. The moment I got out of the car I saw my mom who looked noticeably worn and standing next to her was my sister who I barely recognized. She’d put on at least 200ibs, had messy dyed hair, and wore a bunch of zelda memorabilia. The second surprise was my once athletic(now chubbo) brother sitting at the couch with an ash ketchum cap play smash bros(I’m serious). I was obviously stupefied. My sister took me to see her room and her walls were covered in crudely drawing pokemon and bayo porn. She then went on about splatoon, splatfest, and a “hot chocolate squid girl.” On those walls I saw a picture of Flareon spreading its pussy. That used to be the pokemon she always used when we were younger. This shit got to me. When I asked her what was going on she got really pissed and said to STOP SHAMING her. I then asked my brother what was up and he began to complain about money, how his life sucked, and the trophies or some shit he got in smash. Lastly I talked to my mom. She started crying and talking about how she didn’t know where it went wrong and that she was a terrible mother.

I’m trying to help them all out. I found out the reason my brother has no money is because he keeps buying nintendo memorabilia and never saves. I try to help him by encouraging him everyday. I can’t seem to get to my sister. Whenever I come over though I hear her cursing up a storm about splatfests or whatever.

[Anonymous No.3920491]

>>3920483

[Anonymous No.3920494]

>>3920483
Shit man, that's sad, if you're being serious.
Though all that Nintendo fuckery is maybe just a symptom of other issues.

[Anonymous No.3920497]

>>3920389
was about time

the amount of shitty nsfw beg drawings sullying the name of the beloved Nintendo characters is just embarrassing. While I do agree that banning sfw art which serves as free promotion is just a silly move.

>>3920415
Nips don't use patreon, and they also don't make money online as much as westerners want to believe it. c95 is a thing for a reason

>>3920423
that's not how it works, they'll probably request removal of all nsfw content and what will you draw then, how will you make people be interested in you?

[Anonymous No.3920504]

>>3920483
That's a traumatic experience and all that but anon, you do realize that your siblings brought this upon themselves, right?
If it wasn't Nintendo it would've been any other kind of viral media content, and you'd be blaming them.

[Anonymous No.3920506]

>>3920483
>hot chocolate squid girl
Get that filthy perverted hambeast away from anything that has to do with hot chocolate and the squid.

[Anonymous No.3920512]

>>3920494
I wish I wasn't being serious. I know what you mean. It's just after all this nintendo leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.3920516]

>>3920483
is this pasta? too lazy to check fireden

[Anonymous No.3920522]

>>3920504
I know, but now the association with all of this is there.

[Anonymous No.3920524]

>>3920497
>Nips don't use patreon, and they also don't make money online as much as westerners want to believe it
They do have have Enty and Fanbox now which are equivalents of Patreon. But even before that Nintendo was aggressively targeting nsfw fanart all over the western webspace, but not in eastern parts of the internet.
Why is that? I just want to know whether it's a local decision or some regional standards are at work.

[Anonymous No.3920550]

>>3920389
any proof? You didnt leave any articles or any screencap of an artist sperging out about it.

[containercore !o3a0NktvbA No.3920566]

>>3920389
Correct me if I'm wrong but commercial fanart doesn't fall under fair use, correct? It's just one of those things that the vast majority of companies don't enforce.

[Anonymous No.3920569]

>>3920566
yeah they arent in the wrong here, just being typical nintendo.

[Anonymous No.3920576]

>>3920415
>Is it only a western Nintendo branch playing inquisition?
The Olympics or whatever is in Japan so companies are cracking down on porn, that's all

[Anonymous No.3920577]

>>3920483
That's hilarious and depressive at the same time
Sincerely hope that things turn well for you and your family, anon

[Anonymous No.3920592]

>>3920400
Nothing, Nintendo was always like this. Their executives always were and still are a bunch of mega paranoid madmen living in an ivory tower locked away from the real world. Who think they need to police the entire world and the Internet about their IP because that will somehow net the more moniez.

They did this on Youtube as well years ago however it was just too much for the to police.

Don't worry it is just a random corporate scare tactic by senile old people they will double back on it soon. Same way they did on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.3920596]

>>3920483
Delicious copypasta Anon! Where did you find this?

[Anonymous No.3920608]

Don't fall for this.
OP hasn't link any sources to this.Just most likely bait but it is an interesting topic

[Anonymous No.3920611]

>>3920577
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3920627]

>>3920483

You're family is a literal lost cause. You seem well put together though.

Cut them off before they drag you down to their level.

[Anonymous No.3920632]

>>3920566

Technically, all fanart is considered copyright infringement. It's not protected under fair use.

But most companies, smartly, don't bother fighting it.

[Anonymous No.3920638]

>>3920483
>buying nintendo memorabilia and never saves
Always save your game bro

[Anonymous No.3920642]

>>3920483
Whup her ass in a Pokemon battle.
Her precious Flareon stands no chance against pebbles.

[Anonymous No.3920644]

>>3920524
> Enty and Fanbox
Can you give links? The only relevant thing I found was a site for selling you're merch.

[Anonymous No.3920653]

>>3920644
Anyway, found one. It's enty.jp

[Anonymous No.3920659]

>>3920389
>google this
>nothing comes up
>Patreon accounts with Nintendo only content are on the first page of results.

You better start showing some proof anon

[Anonymous No.3920660]

>>3920644
>>3920653
https://fantia.jp
https://www.pixiv.net/fanbox/

I'm not exactly sure how fantia and enty operate but japanese artists often give links to them alongside their patreon links.
Fanbox is basically a patreon functionality built into Pixiv. You can follow the artist as usual and you can follow his/her fanbox and receive premium content on montly or per update basis.

[Anonymous No.3920668]

>>3920660
None of em allow Paypal, that's all.

[Anonymous No.3920669]

>>3920668
Because they're for japanese customers and creators.

[Anonymous No.3920672]

If you search "patreon nintendo" on twitter, some posts do come up. It looks like it primarily affected a few very popular artists who do a lot of animations and 3d of nintendo characters. Probably patreon isn't trolling through many posts looking for every single nintendo content, just avoid using keywords and keep the content private and they probably won't care because nintendo would never be able to find it without subbing to you first.

[Anonymous No.3920683]

>>3920389
Why is this such an issue for you fags? Just don't monetize off any copyrighted content and if you really want to draw fanart of copyrighted material do it anonymously.
>muh views!
>muh asspats!
>muh subscriptions!
If drawing for the attention is the case it just goes to show you're an attention whore for them likes and subscribes, but if anything someone may recognize your work however you'll have to deny everything so as not to relate the fanart to your accounts. We're headed towards an underground black market of copyrighted fanart made material as this keeps up.

[Anonymous No.3920699]

>>3920494
Hey WTF that's my image. Do I have a stalker?

[Anonymous No.3920701]

>>3920699
I happen to save all crab images I stumble upon, anon.

[Anonymous No.3920707]

>>3920683
You know people get more money from fanart right? It's not about attention, it's literally that people make ten times the income if they draw Princess Peach or some shit. Blame the public for only putting their money into fanart.

[Anonymous No.3920708]

>>3920483
Pfft. Pics or didn't happen.

[Anonymous No.3920719]

>>3920708
thats anon's grandpa

[Anonymous No.3920722]

>>3920683
>how DARE you want payment for your work

[Anonymous No.3920735]

>>3920722
>for your work
It's not your work, you're piggy backing on the back of someone else's concept that is a registered trademark and an asset used by a company. If you really want to use their characters for monetary gains, incorporate yourselves and pay your royalty fees you swines.

[Anonymous No.3920766]

>>3920735
It'd be nice if I could get licensing deal to draw Squidlolies being gangbanged by disembodied penises, but I don't think nintendo is gonna sign off on that, and especially not in my budget.

[Anonymous No.3920780]

>>3920766
Was referring to the sfw content that Nintendo was rightfully taking down, the nsfw content is obviously not up for negotiation under Nintendo's name but you may find other fictitious business names doing business as Nintendo that do create pornographic material very much like Disney.

[Anonymous No.3920787]

>>3920780
Ah, well if there's not a way for me to do something legally, I guess I'll just do it illegally.
>you may find other fictitious business names doing business as Nintendo that do create pornographic material very much like Disney.
what

[Anonymous No.3920793]

Maybe OP is from nintendo, the loud /beg/ artists on twitter arent talking about this shit

[Anonymous No.3920797]

>>3920780
Ntayrt but all the artists I've seen hit by this are porn artists, not sfw. No company that does mainstream is gonna license for porn of their IP, and even for sfw, most companies charge upwards of 10-20k for licenses, for limited time use, they're region-locked, restrictive and complicated. You're saying "just go get a license, swine." It's not possible or worthwhile for most of the artists on patreon to ever, ever do this. An artist making a hundred bucks off their porno of Mario isn't going to pursue licensing.

Keep in mind Disney basically invented IP protection also so don't pretend it's a moral high ground either. It's strictly legal. There's nothing morally wrong with selling fanart as long as it isn't harmful to or stealing sales from the original IP. No one is mistaking the nintendo porn on patreon for real nintendo product.

[Anonymous No.3920799]

>>3920793
Probably one of the three artists who got hit hard because all they made was squid porn acting like it's a bigger deal than it is.

[Anonymous No.3920803]

>>3920797
>There's nothing morally wrong with selling fanart as long as it isn't harmful to or stealing sales from the original IP.
>The future of protecting your copyright will include each company making an 'official' pornographic work of all of their IPs, with very limited supplies, but just enough to sue anyone that tries to make porn

[Anonymous No.3920805]

>>3920797
>It's not possible or worthwhile for most of the artists on patreon to ever, ever do this.
>Meanwhile on the corner of the globe and elsewhere an oriental artist is cashing in on creating fanart making 30k a month and a cosplayer that puts on a wig and make up makes the same amount.
Quite frankly if you can't afford to pursue licensing to use an asset don't even bother creating content from it, it is simply not yours and if you're going to be defiant about it don't bitch and moan when you receive consequences from copyright infringements. It's nothing personal it's just business so why won't you put all that creativity of yours and draw your tentacle rape porn fetish featured by royalty free content without copyright? Is that so difficult?

[Anonymous No.3920817]

>>3920805
If you make things legal and affordable, people will do things legally. If you make things expensive or illegal, people will still do things. Piracy declining with Steam and Netflix becoming popular are good examples of this.

[Anonymous No.3920852]

>>3920389
Parasitic fanfaggots BTFO

[Anonymous No.3920912]

>>3920805
Those are extremely fringe cases, the majority of patreon artists don't make over 1k a month. These are also the people who need that sales boost from creating fanart the most. Why are you stanning a broken overly restrictive copyright law? It was created decades ago before the internet was invented, and was targeted at protecting the rights of corporations, not individuals. It's not the bible. These are fucking fictional cartoons.
>Is that so difficult?
Stop fucking around. Fanart will ALWAYS sell better than original creations, unless you're the 1 in 100,000 who creates a popular character. Don't act like it's easy.

[Anonymous No.3920987]

>>3920708
>tfw you feel the form

[Anonymous No.3921067]

>>3920735
>you staged it
>you sketched it
>you inked it
>you colored it
>you edited it
>it’s not your work

Eat shit, bootlicker.

[Anonymous No.3921094]

>>3921067
>you staged it
You mean you stole took a concept already established by someone else
>you sketched it
No, you copied it from another artist hired by entities who own the material
>you inked it
The material you're "inking" is not yours
>you colored it
Oh sure, color picking from the same source you're plagiarizing
>you edited it
Nice try, but unless you completely overhaul the character so as not to resemble the source you're not going to saveface by editing minor details.
It's not your work, you're going to make a lawyer have a field day one day.

[Anonymous No.3921099]

>>3921094
This /thread.
>>3921067
Sad part is that this entitled motheruckers cry donut steal and use shitty watermarks but are perfectly fine with stealing Copyrighted material

[Anonymous No.3921100]

>>3921094
By that logic then posting Kizuna Ai is in violation of copyright law and you deserve any repercussions that come from that you immense faggot.

Imagine being this subservient to faceless monolithic corporations that you actually go out of your way to defend them.

[Anonymous No.3921104]

>>3921094
>Stole a concept
Literally everything ever conceived is a "stolen" concept, and each time someone recreates a concept they do so through their own filter. The idea of intellectual property exists purely for the benefit of the companies that profit off of it and 99.999% of people would be better of without those stupid laws suppressing the creation of new interpretations of our art. I can't fathom why someone like you would be such a little faggot about this though, unless your own OC got doodled by someone else on the internet and you got your little jimmies rustled.

[Anonymous No.3921106]

>>3921099
The subject is intellectual property not any one specific drawing, you fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.3921114]

>>3920708
Almost thought it was actually Glenn for a second there

[Anonymous No.3921115]

>>3921100
>By that logic then posting Kizuna Ai is in violation of copyright law and you deserve any repercussions that come from that you immense faggot.
Am I attempting to monetize off that image in particular? Am I creating fanart from the character and posting it online on a profile to gain a userbase of potential customers?
>>3921104
On the contrary I am open for creating content hence why I previously said to do it anonymously. I've said it before and I'll say it again there will be a black market of fanart but you faggots insist on creating fanart under your names and then wonder why you get burned doing it. Just know that you're both unoriginal and a thieving little shit for creating fanart for your personal gains. There is no argument, when you post a fanart be prepared to face repercussions and rightfully so.

[Anonymous No.3921118]

>>3920483
Nintendo is a kid company. It always was, and always should be. The problem is millennials have actively into this "autism" state and as /v/ will tell you, most of all this "manchildren" "s-o-y" "incel" buzzwords all came from there. Nintendo has captivated degeneracy, unintentionally, but at the same time, the people working at Nintendo I'm sure, are aware of their fanbase, and don't make it better for the mental state of them positively. I believe my life would have been far worse if I stayed with Nintendo growing up, on a religious scale. Thank god I didn't.

Fuck, I hope shit gets better for your family anon.

[Anonymous No.3921121]

>>3921115
It doesn't matter if you're trying to monetize it or not, you are using something that you did not create and you did not have express permission to use.

When you post any copyrighted material be prepared to face repercussions and rightfully so.

[Anonymous No.3921125]

>>3921121
You clearly do not understand the difference between fair use versus personal gains/monetization whether it be to grow a userbase derived from the content or selling it.

[Anonymous No.3921126]

>>3921115
Ok, I see that it didn't even register to you that what we're saying here is that copywrite laws are inherently flawed, because you're equating what's legal with what's "right." I actually don't even draw fanart or make any money off of art at all, but I've been here long enough to know that many an aspiring artist has no choice but to draw on existing concepts to get the attention necessary to make a living, AT LEAST in the beginning.

You're defending entities that don't suffer in the slightest when concepts they promote get reinterpreted (not simply repackaged) and sold, and I wonder why you'd do that considering you are most likely not a CEO of Nintendo. And besides, in a hypothetical world where someone does Mario better than Nintendo to the point it actually creates competition, is that not EXACTLY what proponents of the "free market" and capitalism want? Competition that leads to a better product for the consumer? But that's clearly a lie.

You aren't an elite corporate billionaire. Why are you acting like the interests of an elite corporate billionaire are yours? Please don't be a cuck Anon, I care about all of us here

[Anonymous No.3921128]

>>3921126
boofuckinghoo. Pay your fucking royalty fees you vermin.

[Anonymous No.3921132]

>>3920400
Literal boomers trying to apply copyright laws to the modern Internt world.

[Anonymous No.3921135]

>>3921128
>(You)

[Anonymous No.3921141]

>>3921135
Once Article 13 sets precedence, domains that fall under similar laws would start deleting copyrighted material to prevent the domain from being penalized by your faggotry. We caught a glimpse of what's ahead during the fappening when Anons posted leaked nude images of a celebrity your post containing the image would be automatically blocked and redirected to another page telling you to relinquish the content.

[Anonymous No.3921142]

>>3920483
I feel for you anon but this is their problem and not Nintendo's. I mean, you look like you know what self-restraint is.

>>3920708
Last I heard he was hospitalized, hope he's doing well.

[Anonymous No.3921151]

>>3920483
Nice larp

[Anonymous No.3921157]

>>3921094
Anyone against this post is confirmed a 3rd world shitter, most likely a nasty chink. They steal fucking everything and claim it as theirs. They literally don't allow the copyright rule as part of their laws.

[Anonymous No.3921164]

>>3921094
>You mean you stole took a concept already established by someone else
What's to stop someone from making a parody version?

[Anonymous No.3921166]

>>3921157
>being cucked by abstract entities and moralistic arguments that only benifit those espousing them
Imagine being this beta

[Anonymous No.3921171]

>>3921094
>colorpicking from official artwork
Who does this?

[Anonymous No.3921174]

>>3921164
The parody has been altered to the point it no longer illegaly resembles the source of the original material that is the parody, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't have a gaze from the original content developers dissecting said parody and looking through a microscope. If you like to play with fire go right ahead just don't be surprised when you get burned.

[Anonymous No.3921193]

Iirc so long as you aren't making people pay for work that contains copyrighted entities and that nobody can prove that your work is directly "damaging" (as in literally making them lose money, no other definition) it falls under fair use. You are allowed to profit from the creation of the work, such as having patrons, but the distribution must be free (i.e paywall is a no-go)

https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/four-factors/

[Anonymous No.3921200]

I've found the photo of >>3921094!

[Anonymous No.3921202]

>>3921200
kek

[Anonymous No.3921205]

>>3921200
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.3921206]

>>3921205
Stay mad, corporate slave.

[Anonymous No.3921222]

>>3920389
Are we ever going to talk about that face.

[Anonymous No.3921231]

>>3920400
Nintendo fanart MAKES MONEY!

[Anonymous No.3921262]

>>3921094
>copying
>colorpicking

You are a plagiarist and you are projecting your theft workflow onto artists who actually draw.

[Anonymous No.3921269]

>>3921094
Yeah right? What kind of value is there in permitting others to express their passion for your work through drawing your characters and give you free advertising in the process? Fucking gay.

>Ban Fanart
>Ban Fan games
>Ban Fan fiction
>Ban sharing of any pictures of Characters online because it also violates copyright

>Fan base is gone

Honestly fuck you Nintendrone. Nintendo does this shit to 10 year passion projects that aren’t monetized in the slightest such as AMR2.
Why do you think fanworks are all made from selfish or malicious intent?

[Anonymous No.3921272]

>>3921269
Even if what you’re drawing is a paid commission it’s still completely harmless to a corporate entity. You you think their stock is gonna go down because of it?Don’t try to moralfag here.

[Anonymous No.3921304]

>>3921164
Unpopular opinion: parodies are all shit and I fucking hate them. The world would be better off without.

[Anonymous No.3921322]

>>3921094
>retarded salty cunt who wants his shitty original donut steels get attention gets assblasted that actually well crafted pieces of work are better than what he will ever produce and goes on the masquerade to defend the rights of corporations that will fuck him too in the ass as soon as they have the reasons just because said pieces of work have characters that aren't his own
have seen this shit too many times and it's always some jealous faggot pretending its ok to respect laws that weren't and will never be made for you, hilarious

[Anonymous No.3921331]

>>3921094
can't believe the amount of asshurt this post caused
imagine a board being so wrong

[Anonymous No.3921333]

>Nintendo is forcing patreon to take down ANY nintendo related work posted on it, sfw or not.
HAS ANYONE EVEN CONFIRMED THIS?
all of you guys are arguing about something that possibly hasn't even happened, I have yet to hear from anyone about this other than this thread
Stop shitting the bed the minute someone makes a baseless claim, you would think 4chan posters of all people would know this

[Anonymous No.3921344]

Reminder that there's nothing wrong with piracy.

[Anonymous No.3921347]

>>3921333
Yeah this isn't actually true. I just made it up to see if you retards would fight over it lmao

[Anonymous No.3921364]

>>3921099
>cry donut steal
>shitty watermarks
>perfectly fine with stealing copyright material
>implying I do all those things
>creating fake facts about your converser so you can attack those points
>attack in the first place your converser instead of refuting his points or defending yours

[Anonymous No.3921369]

>>3921126
>>3921128
>anon gets obliterated
>resorts to ad hominem
classic

[Anonymous No.3921376]

>>3921126
Do you realize this same law is protecting all the OC art you'll ever make in the future?

[Anonymous No.3921384]

>>3920389

I'm not even on pol but
(((nintendo)))

[Anonymous No.3921446]

>>3921094
You are perfectly right but you're arguing with people whose only income is underage squid porn

[Anonymous No.3921449]

>>3921067
>you bought the instruments
>you got the gig
>you practiced it
>you played it
no buddy, that Beatles song is still not your song.

[Anonymous No.3921473]

>>3921446
0.05 Mariocoins were transferred to your account. Have a good day fighting copyright infringement on the Internet!

[Anonymous No.3921478]

>>3921347
based

[Anonymous No.3921499]

>>3920524

Basically if they get into trouble in Japan they have the power to PR out of it. In the west not so much. That's why they act more conservatively here

[Anonymous No.3921511]

>>3921376
>Protecting
If I profit off an OC, and someone else draws my character and also profits off that, and they didn't simply copy and pasting my drawings on to their portfolio, there's is absolutely nothing wrong with it. If anything it's mutually beneficial.

At this point I'm convinced half of you corporate defenders are just shitposting and the other half lack reading comprehension and critical thinking skills, because not a single fucking one of you has produced an argument other than some variation of "it's illegal!"

[Anonymous No.3921531]

>>3921511
I think it's good that people have some degree of control over their creations.
I think the rules should be changed to allow fan art too. As long as it isn't trying to degrade the franchise.

[Anonymous No.3921537]

>>3921531
Thank you for actually saying something substantial

Now what exactly would you consider degrading to a franchise? Does parody fall into this?

[Anonymous No.3921553]

>>3921537
I mean I wouldn't care if it happened to my creations but I get why people would want to remove porn of their characters for example. Or art of their characters sending homophobic/political messages (for that I would care), because they don't want them to be associated with it. You really can fuck with a brand that way, see Hex Maniac sexualized into a big titty goth gf, or more recently Lily, that anime girl holding a "kill all TERFs" sign that's now associated with trannies.

[Anonymous No.3921620]

>>3920418
Saw one artist had to pull all their stuff and was reposting it to twitter

[Anonymous No.3921774]

>>3921094
>What is transformative content?

Let's ban all people that make videos about art on YouTube.

[Anonymous No.3921775]

>>3921331
>OMG are you mad?? Hah! That means I win!!

No fucking arguments left for you, eat shit.

[Anonymous No.3921778]

>>3921449
What if it's a cover song?

Inb4 cover songs are shit

[Anonymous No.3921801]

>OP spews shit eith no sorces to back it up.
> People fall for it anyway

/ic/ is full of fucking retards and none of you are going to make it. Kill yourselves. :^)

[Anonymous No.3921803]

>>3921801
*with
*sources

[Anonymous No.3921806]

>>3921125
ACHSTKUALLY, fair use has ambiguous and exploitative verbage, so much so that as long as it's considered a reproduction or interpretation of the existing IP, you could be prosecuted for it.

so that anon is absolutely right, you are appropriating that image of kizuna-ai for your own purposes, and as long as you don't have a good enough reason to do it, you are initially in the wrong. imagine if you posted an image of kizuna ai reacting to a porn webm with a delighted expression on twitter - that would be something they could pursue and prosecute you for, same as you using an image to react to anything with their IP in it, only on 4chan no one cares.

sorry anon, but it's not really about personal gain or monetization, the law is more in favor of the IP's creator instead of the person utilizing it.

this article described it perfectly:

>But what is the Fair Use Doctrine?

"In the U.S. the Fair Use Doctrine is one defense to an allegation of copyright infringement. It’s a way to say, “Yes, I copied, but my excuse is so good that I should be allowed to copy.” Section 107 of the Copyright Act outlines certain purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered “fair,” such as criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. According to this section, there are four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair:

The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
The nature of the copyrighted work;
Amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

And take that with a grain of salt because courts disagree about how to interpret these factors or which ones are most important."

[Anonymous No.3921821]

>>3920389
Genuinely can't think of a reason why anyone would want to draw Nintendo fan art to begin with. All the characters are so unappealing.

[Anonymous No.3921838]

>>3921774
Videos about art offer commentary that makes the content transformative
>>3921775
I'm not him, cute anon
none here could really disprove his point

[Anonymous No.3921886]

>>3920483
are you amerimutt, right? in your country, parents kick kids out after 18, correct? I think this may be the solution for your brother. He atleast reakises that life is shit, this is a start. Encourage him and give him this as a push to a new life of adult person he must become now. Idk what to do with sister. She obviously avoiding reality and living in a bubble echochamber. Perhaps a great conflict with reality is what needed. Need a serious talk about her being fat bitch who hires on this shit, and some dr Phil style talk with professional, who will help to bring out all this shit. and after that kick her out too to clash her with harsh world. this is just my thoughts

[Anonymous No.3921937]

>>3921376
It only protects you if you have millions of extra dollars in the bank to hire the lawyers who would actually pursue a copyright case for you.

[Anonymous No.3921939]

>>3921838
>I'm not him
this is the most common redflag of samefagging and I find funny retards like you still say it.

[Anonymous No.3921947]

>>3921939
Whatever makes you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.3921960]

>>3921801
the thing is
OP never sent any sources or even replied back to anyone who ask for a link.

[Anonymous No.3922199]

>>3921960
Not OP, but here is what I found with ten minutes of searching. These appear to be two of the bigger artists affected:
https://twitter.com/arhoangel/status/1124675467741663234
https://twitter.com/ManyakisArt/status/1124908290733789184
Link to another one who got hit (not confirmed by the artist himself, at least on twitter): https://twitter.com/GuyLati/status/1125030343927529475
All are specifically nsfw animators who seem to have made nintendo content one of their staples. My guess is they just got too big and got nintendo's attention. The rest of the panic seem to be people who are deleting their nintendo posts just to be safe. This guy claims there are Let's Plays being removed too but I haven't found any evidence of it: https://twitter.com/EmceeProphIt/status/1125274251626291201
So yeah, I don't think there's a letter from nintendo threatening patreon to delete all nintendo content from the site. I do think nintendo targeted a few big earners who proceeded to make a lot of noise about it and freaked everybody else out. It was probably a standard DMCA.

[Anonymous No.3922234]

>>3922199
FINALLY
some results.
i notice these people make over thousands of dollars on their patron.

[Anonymous No.3922256]

>>3920483
>all these people buying into an obvious pasta

[Anonymous No.3922259]

>>3920708
Me in 60 years

[Anonymous No.3922263]

>>3922199
>nsfw animators who seem to have made nintendo content one of their staples.
what idiots, maybe if they didn't almost exclusively draw Nintendo porn 24/7 they wouldnt have gotten hit
This clearly isn't a "guy draws peach once and gets his account terminated" this is people basing their entire brand off of Nintendo and then crying when Nintendo throws the hammer at them
Maybe don't base your entire career off of one specific brand that you don't even own, I get drawing it every now and then but making exclusively Nintendo content and wondering why they hit you is just absolutely moronic

[Anonymous No.3922264]

>>3921553
I think hex sexualized a chubby goth gf isn't harmfull, but Lily with the TERFs sign or... for the sake of arguement, someone making artwork of mario saying "kill all jews", now that is indeed degrading.

[Anonymous No.3922279]

>>3922264
Yes you get me (I don't think it's harmful either :^)
The point is that people can alter how characters are viewed in general. So that's why I believe there's an argument to be made for these rules in place even if they seem to be too strict at times.

[Anonymous No.3922288]

>>3922279
Funny enough, that reminds me of how the creator of Pepe the Frog actually killed him on his comic...

[Anonymous No.3922313]

>>3920389
>make money out of someone else's characters
>complain if it is taken down

if you are pro ownership rights you can't bitch a tiny bit

[Anonymous No.3922326]

>>3921778
Cover songs are shit

[Anonymous No.3922371]

>>3920389
Don't taze me nintendo

[Anonymous No.3922389]

>>3922371
replace the "$5" to "free" and nintendo wont sue you

[Anonymous No.3922436]

>>3922389
That was a close one... thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3922449]

>>3922371
They only took down artists that exclusively draw nintendo art, youre safe

[Anonymous No.3922462]

>>3922449
nah
they only take you down if you're making a large sum of money from it

[Anonymous No.3922463]

>>3922462
I only see artists that almost exclusively draw nintendo characters AND make alot of money from it
There are a shitton of big artists who didn't get taken down who draw nintendo every now and then

[Anonymous No.3922467]

>>3922463
you telling me that they're also taking down fanart from artists who don't make any money from it?Deviantart artists who make inflation/fetish art are going down

[Anonymous No.3922469]

>>3922467
You didnt read what i said
I said "artists that almost exclusively draw nintendo characters AND make alot of money from it"
AKA artists who BOTH made alot of money from it and only drew their characters
no artist drew peach once got the hammer thrown at him nor did any free artists get hit
stop trying to pick fights

[Anonymous No.3922470]

>>3922469
alright
I just meant did they also go after freebie artists.
I've seen people on deviantart who only draw nothing but nintendo characters for free. Mostly for comics.

[Anonymous No.3922474]

>>3920483
Sounds more like tumblr's fault than nintendo's, especially for your sister.

Let your mom know it wasn't her fault.

[Anonymous No.3922476]

>>3922371
>>3922436
boobs too big

[Anonymous No.3922484]

>>3922288
Somehow I get the feeling that people who argue that porn artists on patreon are filthy untalented worms if they charge money for their fanart, and should release it for free or not at all, won't also support the idea that Pepe being co-opted by the alt-right without permission was a bad thing. Just a hunch.

[Anonymous No.3923076]

>>3921838
Just like how your unique style of drawing makes a drawing transformative despite having a borrowed subject.

>none here could really disprove his point
Provide a rebbutal to the counter arguments before saying that.

[Anonymous No.3923244]

>>3922484

But most, if not all, porn artists are degenerate leeches. They literally steal a companies hard work in order to profit off of it.

And even then, the subject matter of their “art” puts them below normal, upstanding artists because sexuality itself and expressions of sexuality are detrimental to the moral fabric of society.

[Anonymous No.3923366]

>>3923244
Go back to tumblr or church.

[Anonymous No.3923379]

>>3922484
>Pepe being co-opted by the alt-right
lmao

[Anonymous No.3923409]

>>3923244
If people didn't fuck, none of us would be here.
Sexuality is the backbone of society and it should be worshiped as such.

[Anonymous No.3923414]

>>3920389
not my sexy octopus!

[Anonymous No.3923428]

>>3923414
That ear is really bothering me

[Anonymous No.3923458]

>>3921094
what an idiot

apart from all that, Nintendo actually profits from this subculture, but their lawyers are too dumb to understand this. too greedy
and you dumb cunt are defending corporate greed.

[Anonymous No.3923463]

>>3923409

The only thing that comes out of sex is offspring. In fact, think about the exact mechanisms in which sex takes place: filthy, sweaty bodies slurping up bodily fluids and having the unaesthetic penis and vagina violently create friction against each other.

The only reason people have sex is out of biological necessity. I find it hard to believe anyone does it for simple pleasure and the are deluding themselves if they do.

[Anonymous No.3923466]

>>3923409
>Sexuality is the backbone of society and it should be worshiped as such.
ew
I'm not saying porn has no place in society, far from it, but please do calm down you degenerate

[Anonymous No.3923469]

>>3923463
were you diagnosed with autism as a child or only recently?

[Anonymous No.3923574]

>>3920398
Nope, people who draw nsfw will though.

[Anonymous No.3923580]

>>3923409
Absolutely true but that doesn't mean our lives have to revolve around it, else we would still be animals.

[Anonymous No.3923605]

1) Still no proof of what op is saying;
2) They defend their creations;
3) Kids shouldnt see atrocious stuff when they search their favourite character on Google images & if you wish this you are the degenerate in the story;
4) Making money behind a creator's back is known as parasitism;
5) Stop drawing nsfw (low quality art that appeals to pervs);
6) You're an artist, artists are supposed to be creative so draw your own SFW stuff from your own imagination and you'll be safe no matter what. (The true path)

[Anonymous No.3923670]

>>3923605
Dude it's not just nsfw stuff they are even going after lets players.

[Anonymous No.3923674]

>>3923244
You say porn artist like most sfw artist don't do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.3923681]

>>3923674
This, artist are whores period. Who gives a shit if its titties or a waterfall.
If someone puts a picture on the internet and says "look at this" its all the same demand for attention.

[Anonymous No.3923685]

>>3923681
Few artists say "look at this"

[Anonymous No.3923686]

>>3921384
Anon they're Japanese

[Anonymous No.3923690]

>>3923685
I mean the act of doing so implies you want people to "look at this"
Why else would it be uploaded

[Anonymous No.3923693]

>>3923690
That's the same as saying that anybody that shares anything for peer review is a whore. Grow up you retard. Bet you don't even draw.

[Anonymous No.3923707]

>>3920389

>tfw you barely don't do fanart...at all.

[Anonymous No.3923713]

>>3923469

Yikes. Using autism as an insult in current year. That’s sooooo funny, shitlord.

My experience with sex has always been awful. The smell. The feeling. The sight of my own partner. The sight of my body. I can’t stand it. Left me literally shaking afterwards. Sex is just dirty and useless.

[Anonymous No.3923875]

>>3923670
This isn't true. It was primarily three big porno animators. The guy saying let's plays and sfw were being targeted deleted his tweets and apologized for spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous No.3923879]

>>3923713
It sounds like you're asexual, and possibly genuinely autistic, if you don't like being touched. Some people like feet and being pissed on. If it's not for you it doesn't mean no one is allowed to enjoy it. And you not enjoying sex would be totally fine as well, as long as you weren't pressing your opinions and preferences on other people.

[Anonymous No.3923881]

>>3922256
so where's the og? fireden gives nothing

[Anonymous No.3923883]

>>3923879
Yeah I'm asexual and this is often how I feel. Makes me feel gross and I'll often cry. Wish I wasn't that way, though.

[Anonymous No.3923895]

>>3921094
Pftahahah look at this dude unironically taking side of big corporation
people will keep making bank by stealing shit while you seethe

cope

[Anonymous No.3923909]

>>3923895
>t. future bunkbuddy with Tyrone
Start biting that pillow faggot.

[Anonymous No.3923911]

>>3923879

Damn. I was really hoping using sjew words like “yikes” or “literally” was gonna be enough to make people realize I was baiting.

Also, porn good. Nintendo porn not so good imo.

[Anonymous No.3924376]

>>3923909
>Implying that the prison system doesn't go easy on white collar crime

[Anonymous No.3924398]

>>3920987
heres a late (you)

[Anonymous No.3924842]

>>3920415
Japan has a double standard to the rest of the world.
It’s ok when japan does it.

[Anonymous No.3926315]

>>3921157
I can smell the basement dweller from here.

[Anonymous No.3926367]

>>3926315
Yeah, you should clean yourself mate, not my problem.