/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3909177]

I started a painting of this politics lady. What should I do next?

[Anonymous No.3909180]

adjust the values, give her eyelashes

[Anonymous No.3909192]

>>3909177
why do you do highlights on top of dark tones? It looks like you're skipping a step. The thumb nail looks bad. Shouldn't you do dark to mid to highlight?

Also she needs more cheekbone.

[Anonymous No.3909196]

[Anonymous No.3909221]

>>3909177
Agree with anon about the eyelashes. You’d be surprised how much better portraits looks when you add those fine details.

[Anonymous No.3909230]

>>3909177
Can i get it for "free"?

[Anonymous No.3909711]

>>3909230
Every American has to spend an average of $300,000 in their life on healthcare. This is on top of the US goverment spending more per-capita on medicare than any other government spends on a universal system.

It's not getting things for "free" it's just getting things without getting facefucked into oblivion by the insurance industry for no reason. You're choosing hundreds of thousands of middle class white people being bankrupted by medical bills every year. You're a shill for the destruction of your people.

[Anonymous No.3909781]

>>3909177
There is too much contrast, otherwise it would look pretty good.

>>3909711
*this
Your premium includes a 20% profit for the insurance company, plus duplicate overhead costs because they can't operate over state lines. We would be replacing a premium with 20-40% less of the premium in a tax increase.

[Anonymous No.3909791]

focus on proper shading
you don't want to go down the illastrat path

[Anonymous No.3909793]

>>3909177
Fuck off, jimmy

[Anonymous No.3909799]

>>3909177
All of what should be reflected light is the same value as the regular light. Structurally it looks fine and you've captured the likeness but the shading makes her look like a burn victim.

[Anonymous No.3910564]

>>3909177
may have went to far in all of the places.
>>3909180
>>3909192
>>3909221
>>3909781
>>3909791
>>3909799
decided to basically fuck over all the progress and start over with undertones. Or didn't really decide it just happened because I'm dum. Now I gotta go back with more highlights and junk

[Anonymous No.3910982]

>>3909711
>You're a shill for the destruction of your people.
yes, better vote democrat...

[Anonymous No.3910996]

>>3910982
exactly. they actually have a policy platform that doesn't explicitly make your life worse. They're not shills for the health insurance industry that is bankrupting everyone. They're not shills for the fossil fuel industry that is destroying the future. They're not shills for arms dealers or prisons or war profiteers. They literally want your life to be less fucked than it is now.

[Anonymous No.3911073]

>>3910996
>your life will be better if you just give us the power to control it
The only one who can make your life not suck is you. The last person whos going to have a positive impact is the people at the dmv.

[Anonymous No.3911079]

>>3911073
>your life will be better if you just give us the power to control it
you life ALREADY is entirely controlled by a for-profit industry that you have no option but participate in when you get sick. It's ALWAYS Republicans giving corporations more control over your life.

Not to mention that Republicans sold your psychographic data to Arabs and Russians and other bad-actor foreign agencies that are literally abusing you every day on your media experience. They are very intentionally agitating and manipulating you to be upset and disaffected and acting out of reactionary fear and spite. They control everything you look at.
>The only one who can make your life not suck is you.
nope. Everyone is at risk of being bankrupted by medical bills. Everyone is forced to spend $300,000 in their life on healthcare or go bankrupt. This is something that NO other country does to their people. And you support it because you're an NPC cuck that's been trained to shill against your own interests out of spite.

[Anonymous No.3911083]

>>3909177
Please try doing a painting without any black paint bro

[Anonymous No.3911094]

Illastrat, the least you could fucking do is learn by now that you're not supposed to uplaod images over 1000 by 1000 pixels.
C'mon man, you're basically an oldfag. You should know this.

[Anonymous No.3911098]

>>3911083
there is no black paint in that. Darkest colors that got mixed in was violet and Prussian Blue.

[Anonymous No.3911102]

>>3911094
This is not Illastrat. This is Jimmy B., aka "watchpaintdrytv" and the creator of all those awful celebrity paintings. He used to spam the board all day everyday with his paintings and delusional musings on life/art, but not only occasionally pops back up.

[Anonymous No.3911116]

PLEASE Jimmy try doing what this guy says
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>>3909791
>>3909791

[Anonymous No.3911125]

>>3911079
sometimes 4chan is based. keep fighting the good fight its rough out here friend

[Anonymous No.3911131]

>>3909791
The lower left one literally looks like done by OP.

[Anonymous No.3911160]

>>3911079
>>3911125
This is what it looks like to have lost all sense of self worth. A hundred years ago people crawled to work in coal mines so they could afford a loaf of bread per week. You fucking retarded faggots have everything compared to the entirety of human history and you're still whining.
>Inb4 exactly, look how nice the world is! It should all be MINEEEE! Just SHARE!
Our society has been neutered by entitled faggots like you. Your pussy mindset is the reason you'll never succeed. Youve already accepted defeat. You cant handle your life so you just hand it over to mommy government. You're a cog in the machine and when the machine breaks down you're scrap metal. Nothing.
Keep whining about "Republicans" as if they're all the same though, you're really showing how thoughtful you are.

[Anonymous No.3911183]

>>3909177
Unless her back's touching a freshly wet painted wall you better clean up those shoulders.
>>3911160
>Keep whining about "Republicans" as if they're all the same though
Voting records clearly suggests that. You even just pulled the "lol pull yourself up by yer bootstraps xD"

[Anonymous No.3911256]

>>3911079
You sound like the liberal equivalent of Alex Jones, although that goes for practically every liberal

[Anonymous No.3911369]

>>3911256
>You sound like the person that people on the right, including the President of the US, takes very seriously

[Anonymous No.3911373]

>>3911256
also Alex Jones is literally a Russian shill. He's been a shill for industrial complexes since the 90s and foreign counterintelligence agencies since the aughts. His supplements are a money laundering scam. He is an active liar and part of the reason he is kept afloat is exactly the reason you just demonstrated. He says every crazy thing EXCEPT for the actual crazy things, so that if anyone calls out the people he shills for it's ALWAYS just "hey you sound like that crazy guy that everyone on the right unironically listens to."

He's a muddy waters propagandist and Russia is paying his bills. He has NO problem talking about how lizard people are stealing your souls but the second someone brings up the Russian active measures war since 2014 he literally starts whatabouting and turns into a Russia Dindu.

[Anonymous No.3911377]

>>3911079
ya lol, refugees welcome, legalize it, free healthcare, free universities, minorities first, whites are bad, republicans are gun nuts, tranny toilets, normalizing pedos, militant gays, aggressive feminists, etc etc

meanwhile bernie is sipping margheritas in his mansion number 3, which he bought with money donated from gullible fucks like you lmaooooing @ u and ur shit art senpai kys

[Anonymous No.3911387]

>>3911160
>This is what it looks like to have lost all sense of self worth.
project less lol. You're the one that chooses to be a cuck for the insurance and fossil fuel industries.
>A hundred years ago people crawled to work in coal mines so they could afford a loaf of bread per week.
Yeah and we were using kids in factories because they had tiny lands that could reach into heavy machinery better. Are you saying that THIS is your sense of self worth? You want to be a serf slave to the company you work for? Why?
>You fucking retarded faggots have everything compared to the entirety of human history and you're still whining.
Why not just kill yourself? You'll never go back. You'll never get to die of black lung. You'll never get an arm ripped off and die from the infection. You'll never get polio. The good old days have been disinfected. Learn to cope.
>Our society has been neutered by entitled faggots like you.
You're literally shilling for the most entitled faggots in history. Why do you LIKE spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on healthcare when nobody else does? Why do you LIKE just endlessly giving tax cuts to corporations while your cost of living skyrockets?
> Your pussy mindset is the reason you'll never succeed.
You're literally a cuck for industries that are exploiting and abusing you.
>Youve already accepted defeat
No that's you. You're happy to get fucked and cucked by corporations out of spite.
>You cant handle your life so you just hand it over to mommy government.
Nope. Rather trust The People, who are publicly accountable, than some fucking for-profit corporations that don't answer to anybody. They're destroying life.
>You're a cog in the machine
projection
>and when the machine breaks down you're scrap metal.
the irony is that you're some marshmellow pussy on an artboard shilling for Exxon right now. The people you trust make you feel special when you shill for them, but you're not. It's a fantasy. You're their bitch

[Anonymous No.3911399]

>>3911377
>refugees welcome,
don't set the middle east on fire if you don't want to deal with the refugee crises that arise from that. Also don't be such a coward.
> legalize it
absolutely quit being a statist nigger shill for big gubment loser
>free healthcare
our goverment already spends WAY more per-capita on medicare and medicaid than any other government spends per-capita on their universal systems. And then we have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on top of it. Nobody is talking about "free healthcare" we just don't need to be paying for it twice. We don't need to be bankrupting hundreds of thousands of middle class white families every year.
> free universities,
yep. No reason to be bankrupting people at the beginning of their life. And the cost is exploding. Without regulation it'll just continue to get worse and continue to destroy the economy. We're burying entire generations in debt.
>minorities first
eh
> whites are bad
If you shill for Exxon and Sentara and Academi and the prison industry out of spite, yeah you're fucking bad. You're an evil person. You're destroying your country to spite the people in it. You're literally going to burn in hell for what you've done.
>republicans are gun nuts
They're shills for arms dealers that use messaging strategy that makes people insane. Yes.
>tranny toilets
Entirely Republican messaging strategy designed to make you agitated and supporing Exxon to spite weirdos
>normalizing pedos
Donald Trump has repeatedly had sex with children. That's why he kept going back to Russia.
> militant gays
Military has no problem with that. It's jangling keys to keep you distracted
>aggressive feminists
boogiewomyn have been propped up to scare you by the people you trust since the mid 60s.
>etc etc
Yeah just keep listing off the random people that you're spiting when you vote to destroy your future LMAO. The idea of thinking about your own self-interests is just GONE. You ONLY exist to spite The Other.

[Anonymous No.3911415]

>>3911399
You like refugees, how many are residing in your home rn? Free healthcare for every single overweight minority? Second amandment =/= the military and arms industry. Tranny toilets are an issue you retard, just like the christan that had to bake a cake for aggressive faggots. Looks like that CNN propaganda of 'Russians did it' 24/7 still reached some poor naive soft-minded people like you. The pee report is real as well huh? Militant gays I meant as overbearing and in your face kind of gay, dumbass. Feminists are destroying the west with their horseshit theories and screeching, it is the truth. They do not want equality, they want power for their own ogly self, just like you. You constantly berate rightwingers for being bootlickers, while at the same time you would give up every right just to be coddled by the government for some more sweet neetbux. I've seen how you live. In filth and disarray. You are unkempt and repulsive, a retard that has only his online persona (hated by all) to entertain his lonely existence. Lmaooo.

[Anonymous No.3911433]

>>3911415
>You like refugees, how many are residing in your home rn?
you like exxon, how many oil derricks are residing in your home rn?

And refugees aren't a matter of "liking them" it's a matter of not being an easily agitated nigger tribalist that's triggered by outgroup contempt.

And again, if you don't like refugees, don't vote for Republicans. They create the wars that create the refugees

>Free healthcare for every single overweight minority?
see it's always about spiting The Other. You've literally killed your self. Your own self-worth is NOTHING. You have a negative self-worth. You only find value in supporting things as long as they hurt The Other.

The 700,000 medical bankruptcies a year are primarily middle class white people. Fat poor people don't go bankrupt their credit just gets worse.

>Second amandment =/= the military and arms industry.
no it literally does equal the arms industry. That's EXACTLY who the NRA is shilling for. They don't give a fuck about you. They give a fuck about the hundreds of millions that they're making selling guns to mexican cartels and criminals.

>Tranny toilets are an issue you retard
nope fabricated distraction for perverts like you to be triggered about. The entire NC thing was intentionally kept in their state legislature in 2016 to be propped up as a "issue" to rouse the retards.

You don't have much of an argument do you? Bunch of buzzwords, ad hominems, doing the "why I never" about things that make you uncomfortable etc

>Feminists are destroying the west with their horseshit theories and screeching, it is the truth.
Nope fossil fuel industry will knock out the west in this century. The people you shill for are PLANNING on it.

>You constantly berate rightwingers for being bootlickers,
you're hardly a "rightwinger" m8 you're a corporatist shill that talks like a stalinist. Stop licking boots if you don't want to be a bootlicker.

[Anonymous No.3911434]

>>3911415
>You are unkempt and repulsive
post pics

[Anonymous No.3911441]

>>3911433
never said I support wars in the middle east. You are close to the truth but are missing it. It's (((them))). And you conveniently dismissed the last part of my post kid. I'm done arguing here [-]

[Anonymous No.3911455]

>>3911441
>never said I support wars in the middle east.
your personal feelsfaggot feelings mean literally nothing. You're manipulated and abused using whatever is determined to trigger your insecurities based on the psychographic profile you create when you use the internet. This includes the porn you look at. You are part of a psychographic brotherhood of people exactly like you that are all bombarded with messaging strategy designed to keep you voting for the corporatist party. Doesn't matter if you "support wars in the middle east" you vote for the people that do.

This is the whole point of using outgroup contempt to condition people like you towards compliance. You don't "support" the policy you vote for. You just vote to spite The Other. Then when the people you voted for do all this shit that you don't "support" you're left feeling persecuted and victimized and unfairly blamed for the things the people you shill for do.

Nobody is making you lick the boots dog. You're choosing to. And then choosing to get offended and take it personally when the boots start locking up kids in concentration camps.
>You are close to the truth but are missing it. It's (((them))).
nope it's (You). You're pathetic and easily manipulated and undereducated. Everything needs to be le spoopy jew scapegoat. Everything wrong in your life being caused by the people you support is ACTUALLY caused by Der Spektor das Juden or whatever.

The people you trust are lying to you lol.

> And you conveniently dismissed the last part of my post kid.
yeah there's a character limit to how much autism I can respond to.
All that shit that I "dismissed" was literally a bunch of personal attacks that mean nothing.

>I'm done arguing here
you literally never had an argument.

[Anonymous No.3911461]

>>3911399
>yep. No reason to be bankrupting people at the beginning of their life. And the cost is exploding. Without regulation it'll just continue to get worse and continue to destroy the economy. We're burying entire generations in debt.
You dumbfuck, how do you think it got to that point? How is it that it wasn't a problem when it was not regulated? I'll tell you how. The liberals who made the exact same argument that promising to pay for you, manifacturing your consent for enslaving you. Before you could pay for college with a summer job, but since the schools are guaranteed to get payed by government loans, they just made it more and more expensive since its not gonna come out of the pocket of students. You're only talking about bullshit low level stuff ignoring where the source of all of this chaos from the past century comes from, both you and this fake controlled opposition republican conservatives who conserve nothing but only act as gatekeepers

[Anonymous No.3911472]

>>3911461
Notice how desperately you need to resort to personal attacks over political discussions that you refuse to understand. Reflect on that.
>You dumbfuck, how do you think it got to that point?
Agency capture mostly.
>How is it that it wasn't a problem when it was not regulated?
It was a problem. Also it was always regulated. It's been deregulated. Also we didn't use to tell everyone that they needed to go to college. The for-profit college industry started pushing the idea that if you didn't go your life was over before it began. And then as it became easier for bullshit colleges to get accreditation the whole industry just became a feeding frenzy. It's a super complicated system with a lot of variables and events that have happened over the last 100 years.

And more to the point, why are you talking about the past? Who fucking cares how we got here. The problem is now and it's destroying the future. You either address it or it destroys the economy and the country in this century. Those are the options.
>I'll tell you how.
Nope you did some meaningless whataboutism. You're a bootlicker. You're trained not to even address issues. It's just throw shit and screech like a chimp if you think that daddy is being threatened.
>manifacturing your consent
Have you read Manufacturing Consent? If not you should check it out.
>Before you could pay for college with a summer job
yeah and summer jobs used to pay a lot more too lol.
> they just made it more and more expensive since its not gonna come out of the pocket of students.
yeah and this is something that the people that you support did and are happy to maintain. You're voting for it to continue.
> You're only talking about bullshit low level stuff
You likely aren't equipped to talk about ANY of this shit.
> ignoring where the source of all of this chaos from the past century comes from,
corporatism, corruption, and agency capture.

Keep licking them boots boyo.

[Anonymous No.3911487]

>>3911387
>Born in the most privileged country in the history of the world
>Can't pull himself up by his bootstraps
>Nimbooga does it even though he is fleeing genocide
>Nguyen does it even though he sold everything he owns to get here
>Rajesh does it even though his country hasn't invented the toilet
>Ahmed does it even though communists razed his home and replaced it with passion of the Christ
Sad

[Anonymous No.3911526]

>>3911487
t foreign LARP

[Anonymous No.3911573]

>>3911487
>Ahmed does it even though communists razed his home and replaced it with passion of the Christ

Since when are Americans communists and communists christians???

[Anonymous No.3911587]

>>3911573
>taking memetext literally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology_of_the_Iranian_Revolution
>Less powerful were the socialist guerrilla groups of Islamic and secular variants, and the secular constitutionalism in socialist and nationalist forms.
>the ideology of the revolution was known for its "imprecision" or "vague character" prior to its victory, with the specific character of velayat-e faqih/theocratic waiting to be made public when the time was right. Khomeini believed the opposition to velayat-e faqih/theocratic government by the other revolutionaries was the result of propaganda campaign by foreign imperialists eager to prevent Islam from putting a stop to their plundering. This propaganda was so insidious it had penetrated even Islamic seminaries and made it necessary to "observe the principles of taqiyya" (i.e. dissimulation of the truth in defense of Islam), when talking about (or not talking about) Islamic government.
tl;dr muslim crazies used used commie muslims pissed at the west to overthrow the government and then said "lol pranked, allahs in charge. now wear this trash bag or we'll kill you with rocks" And iranian immigrants are like number 4 most successful races in america.

[Anonymous No.3911750]

what's everyone arguing about lol

>>3909177
>>3910564
all this layering and it's still fucky because I didn't feel like mixing more colors. Got to do like a mauve and red mix or something to do the under cheek meme. Just keep doing everything BUT the cheek.
>>3909791
yeah dab on you I STILL haven't fixed it lol

[Anonymous No.3911754]

>>3911487
what's the point here? We should keep letting the health insurance industry destroy people's lives because of immigration?

It's not IMPOSSIBLE to succeed here so it's ok that hundreds of thousands of people are getting needlessly fucked by malignant industrial complexes?

[Anonymous No.3911815]

>>3911750
>>3909791
>>3909177
im not sure what to do next desu

[Anonymous No.3911825]

>>3911750
STOP PAINTING
STOP

just please calm down and please for the love of god group the shadows on her face into solid shapes, then blend them together. i could show you what i mean but i'm really tired and just did a paintover, just

please

simplify your values and group your shadow shapes. how about this fun little exercise - try to create her likeness with as few hard edge shapes as possible. try to use under 15.

also put this in the draw thread wtf man

[Anonymous No.3911832]

>>3911825
>stop painting
that's the opposite of what I'm doing tho
and I'm not doing blending on this it's layering colors on top of each other with short strokes.
> try to create her likeness with as few hard edge shapes as possible.
splain what this memes

[Anonymous No.3911841]

>>3911825
Do you really trying to talk with this nigger? He's literally xeroxnigger with no brains.

[Anonymous No.3911980]

>>3909177
Paint a dumb bartender with a double digits IQ next.

[Anonymous No.3911985]

>>3911825
honestly I'm coming back to this rereading it drunk. idk what you're talking about. Buncha ching chong gibberish.

pls explain ty gb

[Anonymous No.3912494]

>>3911980
>IQ
meme for stupid people

[Anonymous No.3912714]

>>3909791
Lol, wow even famous artist course disagrees with the mentally ill redditor's choice of painting "style". Based professional artists from 1950s.

[Anonymous No.3912950]

>yeah dab on you I STILL haven't fixed it lol

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.3913239]

>>3909177
You are not skilled enough to do a portrait of AOC in this angle abd shadow. You should find a picture with better lighting.
The way you build the face in shadow and light is wrong. You should study the photo more and use the right colours.

[Anonymous No.3913242]

>>3911815
Her shadows on her neck are warm - in some areas Burnt Umber and Sap Green.
OP should study the colours in this photo.

[Anonymous No.3913243]

>>3909177
not make threads specifically for your own art and post in one of the pre-existing ones is a good start