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Vent thread Anonymous Wed Mar 27 01:14:28 2019 No.3867288 [Reply] [Original]

Confess all your frustrations and art sins, my son.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 01:44:12 2019 No.3867310 Just once I'd like to actually finish a project instead of giving up half way and telling myself its stupid and isn't worth trying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 01:46:33 2019 No.3867311 >>3867288 I know it's hurting my popularity with normies but I refuse to color drawings. I love the contrast of pretty, dark, flowing lines against light backgrounds. Colors only take attention away from beautiful lines.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 01:50:45 2019 No.3867318 >>3867310 >tfw working on every skill for my solo game project since 4+ years The payoff better be good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 01:56:12 2019 No.3867321 >>3867318 holy shit only at 4+? How old are you now anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:04:29 2019 No.3867328 >>3867321 20. I'm decent at 3D modeling and programming so far, got to get better at drawing and animation now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:07:19 2019 No.3867331 File: 59 KB, 160x270, 1546091820124.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3867328 >20. I'm decent at 3D modeling and programming so far, got to get better at drawing and animation now. Uh, gambatte and all that shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:08:56 2019 No.3867334 Ive only been studying heads for a week and i want to fucking die

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:11:38 2019 No.3867338 File: 14 KB, 488x275, fbb43af0c4c5a3bbbe06c4cbc86ad03682051c28_00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3867331 >That pic w-what are you trying to imply?

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:12:18 2019 No.3867340 [DELETED]

The mods have yellow fever and banned me 4 times for saying Asians have a similar facial construction to people with Down’s syndrome in a 100% artistic sense. I am on the autism spectrum and I’m very sensitive to repetitive patterns. This is basically Reddit 2.0

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:12:47 2019 No.3867342 After 4 years I’ve gotten decent at most fundies but I still can’t wrap my head around quick gestures (30 seconds - 2 minutes). It only looks good when I draw for 4+ minutes, any less and it’s shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:15:16 2019 No.3867344 File: 355 KB, 918x597, 583F4D4F-E813-423B-9541-907ACF603FBA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKK FUUUUUCK

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:57:37 2019 No.3867382 >>3867340 lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 02:59:24 2019 No.3867385 >>3867342 It's supposed to look rushed, not look good and polished

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 03:57:26 2019 No.3867439 >>3867344 I get that feel. >only been playing vidya >don't even see the point in drawing anymore

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 04:14:09 2019 No.3867451 >>3867439 been dealing with the existential crisis of sekiro, finding a new job, or working on the commissions ive been putting off

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 04:36:55 2019 No.3867470 File: 196 KB, 720x649, FB_IMG_15421366637329907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >wanna make fanart of the movies/games/shows I enjoyed >can't come up with a good composition How the fuck do people do it? I don't wanna just copy a scene.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 04:44:57 2019 No.3867473 >>3867470 What do the characters in those games/movies/shows do to make them unique? What attributes of the characters make them your favorites? What are they not shown doing in their respective media that you'd like to see them do?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 04:47:38 2019 No.3867475 >>3867470 study composition from the ground up. look at the compositions of the old masters' paintings.

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 04:57:34 2019 No.3867481
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>>3867470
Imagine them in a scenario. Ask various questions.
>What if X is put in this scenario, what would he do?
>What if he's also stuck with character Y?
>What if Z series, but set in modern times?
>How about X character in genderbent/aged-up/furry mode?

There's so much to think about that I haven't listed but I leave it up to you to brainstormabout it. This is also why AUs are so popular for fanartists because it's easier to come up with something (modern au, medieval au, coffee shop au, school au etc)

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 05:09:10 2019 No.3867491

>wake up and check twitter
>18 yo artist: "here is my latest piece, it's not very good sorry" (it's pro level btw)
>meanwhile 26 and still shit
All of these thoughts runnin’ through my head
Carpal tunnel, neck hurting
FRUSTRATION IS GETTING BIGGER
EMBRACE THE NGMI THAT'S WITHIN ME
BANG BANG BANG PULL MY WACOM CHARGER

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 05:24:39 2019 No.3867506
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You guys really think it's possible for someone taking STEM to make it in art some day? When I started uni I wasn't serious about it, I just practiced a bit and did requests for anons. Now I 100% am, I love it, I can spend the entire day drawing things and just feel so glad.
After 4 years of drawing I feel like I'm finally "getting" things, not a lot, but I'm close to good enough to start drawing my comics.

But I have classes, many, many classes. 7 finals coming up in an engineering degree I don't even like. Yeah I'm good at it, but it still needs a shit ton of work and time.
I don't know how stressful the work is going to be if I graduate, will I even have enough energy to draw after work?

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 05:37:03 2019 No.3867520

>>3867506
Naf has a STEM degree and won the jumo manga contest last year. There's still hope for you

As for me, I'm content having it as a hobby. Stem jobs are more stable in the long run imo. Also, I feel I'd burn out and hate art pretty quickly if I turned it into a 9-5 job

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 05:38:05 2019 No.3867522 >>3867520 *jump

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 05:38:50 2019 No.3867524 >>3867520 Isn’t Naf an engineering major too?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 05:50:56 2019 No.3867532 >>3867439 Nah man can’t relate, I actually draw/paint

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 06:03:26 2019 No.3867539 >>3867524 Yeah, mechanical engineering course

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 06:07:30 2019 No.3867541 Why am i so bad jesus fuck just why after all these years

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:01:05 2019 No.3867570 >>3867311 Are you me

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:05:03 2019 No.3867571 >>3867570 I might be, post your lines.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:16:08 2019 No.3867574 >>3867288 FUCKING HANDS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:25:27 2019 No.3867578 File: 33 KB, 431x428, A15E7F5D-8708-4651-B38A-6FC66DE3F248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3867574 Pic related without the dicks

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:26:20 2019 No.3867579 >>3867288 feel like i've seen everything i draw already somewhere else. really discouraging when you feel like you're just copying something with slight changes

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:27:46 2019 No.3867585 >>3867288 Fuck life, I just wanna draw until I eventually die. I didn't sign up for [everything else].

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:29:52 2019 No.3867586 >>3867585 This is me, just want to draw my dumb pics until I get to die >>3867579 Draw from life, you’ll laugh at 95% of art

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 07:35:35 2019 No.3867590 File: 6 KB, 285x319, deviantart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do I post on DeviantArt again?

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 08:03:49 2019 No.3867605
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>>3867506
I'll also add
I have endless fucking envy for anyone attending art school, sometimes I see pics of them in social media, they're sitting around in these big studios, with models and instructors giving them lectures and critique.
They can expend all their mental energy on drawing and improving while I've got 1001 things maxing out my brain at a time.

There isn't even life drawing classes where I'm living, not even in the fucking universities.
>>3867524
Checking his stuff out, pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 08:14:29 2019 No.3867615 >>3867590 have you tagged the shit out of your image?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 08:25:02 2019 No.3867618 >>3867615 Yeah, that one has 7 tags on it. Some art I even submitted to groups and I have sub 20 views. Twitter is already useless and I get like 1000 visualizations on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 08:30:53 2019 No.3867621 >>3867605 >wanting to put yourself thousands of $$ in debt Don't, anon. It's so saturated anyway

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 08:48:30 2019 No.3867637

>>3867506
You have the time management skills to make art and are smart enough to learn somewhat quickly and hopefully took enough humanities to have some taste and culture and big boy thoughts. Your day job probably won't be too stressful compared to wage slavery so you can practice.

Manage your time well and you can shit out a comic. A lot of fine artists worked on their craft while making money before making a debut in the art scene. A couple local artists make decent money painting and didn't really start it as a career until they were 30. Others slipped into art from other fields because they could lean on it. One of my friends started doing the graphic design for their company because, well they are the marketing department and is looking to freelance or move to a design firm as illustrator.

Look at it as a force multiplier for your other skills.

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 08:53:53 2019 No.3867640

>>3867506
Plenty of people who went into STEM have broken into the art scene. You just have to spend less time on /ic/ and more time looking at contemporary artists. My work was just in a group show with 4 other people who got engineering or physics degrees. It was my first show but the others are actually known internationally.
I still work my day job but two of the people I showed with have been full time artists for years now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 17:38:55 2019 No.3868268 I can't remember why I started drawing, and that sucks because it feels like my passion is dead because of it.

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 17:57:37 2019 No.3868294

>>3868268
Do you think most artists can even remember why they started drawing? Most of the time there wouldn't even be a reason besides just dicking around (usually starts as a kid). If you mean you don't have an ultimate goal well maybe think about things you enjoy, it could be anything. Make a little list. And then think about what you'd like to emulate, like ''I like realistic fighting stories and want to draw intense dudes like in Vagabond''

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 20:31:58 2019 No.3868497

pretty sure my depression meds kill my creativity, but without them i'll probably kill myself, so i'm kind of at a shitty crossroads. hate the way meds make me feel, and just want to be normal and draw all day like I did when I was a kid. can't even think of what to draw anymore because all I think about is fucking and sleeping, but drawing people sleeping is boring and drawing people fucking is so goddamn played out and tiresome thanks to current online art trends. hate it. hate hate hate it.

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 20:50:33 2019 No.3868529

>>3867586
>Draw from life

No thanks, anon. If I lived anywhere other than America then maybe I'd consider it, but I don't, and Americans are annoying as fuck about being drawn. Before I finally gave up going outside, every single day I had to put up with people who couldn't understand body language and basic personal space. I felt like I needed a physical sign that said
>I am only drawing you because you are a human in my field of view
>I am not drawing you for any particular reason
>I am not drawing you so you will start a conversation with me
>I do not care about you, nor anything about you
>I do not want to talk to you, and if we make eye contact it was an unfortunate accident
>I am trying to draw without interruption
I once had a woman reach over and take my fucking headphones off my head in order to ask me if I had been drawing her. Not even in a "how fucking dare you" kind of way, either; she actually thought what she did was normal and appropriate. Fuck life drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 20:52:03 2019 No.3868532 >>3868529 Weird, in Aus you get ignored

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 20:52:38 2019 No.3868534 >>3868497 Ik exactly how you feel dude. Been on meds for about a year now and it's hard as fuck to draw anything now. It sucks so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 20:54:03 2019 No.3868538 >>3868529 I didn’t know Brian was against life drawing.

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 21:30:01 2019 No.3868589
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>>3867288
Been having lots of really bad headaches for I think 2 months now, mostly focused on the right side of my head. I've also been feeling really tired, sleeping a lot yet waking up feeling restless and eating too little.
Turns out I got a tumor on my right eye that may be the cause of all this but my doctor isn't sure so I got sent to take some exams and a brain scanner that's going to be expensive as fuck.
Been trying to push back the anxiety by drawing but the moment I want to think of anything my head starts to hurt and I need to lay down. And when I do manage to make something I can't make sense of it and my hand shakes.
God, why.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 23:20:10 2019 No.3868743 >>3868589 Im very sorry to hear that. I hope things get well for you. Keep us updated if you're alright with that and always have a friend to talk with you

Anonymous Wed Mar 27 23:28:08 2019 No.3868750

>>3867288
I really hate fanart.
It's the most soulless form of art yet it garners the most attention.
And don't get me wrong, I get it.
I get that you're looking at an artist's representation of a character you like. I'm sure the porn of it is great and hot as fuck.
But that is completely the observer's perspective.
From an artist point of view, if you're trying to gain a following or "make" it, the only way to do it is by doing fanart.
The only way to be a popular artist, is to have zero originality in your subject matter.
Why the FUCK is it like that? Why the FUCK do people praise this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 23:29:38 2019 No.3868754 >>3868750 The Old Masters just painted and sculpted fanart of Christianity

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 23:32:00 2019 No.3868759 >>3868750 Rennaisance paintings are mostly bible fanarts

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 23:44:48 2019 No.3868780 >>3868754 >>3868759 I'm sure I would've had the same the same opinion then. Of course, I would've been hung by the state church for blasphemy and speaking against the holy depiction of Mary and Joseph by 17th century Sakimichan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 23:46:09 2019 No.3868782 >>3868780 >Comparing old masters to Sakimichan Edgy

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 23:48:02 2019 No.3868784 >>3868782 I know. I'm tired.

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 00:06:24 2019 No.3868799 [DELETED]

>>3868759
>>3868789
Would you honestly call Christian inspired works "fanart" though? I suppose in a literal sense, but the bible (and mythology for that matter, for the most part) isn't a visual medium. It actually takes creativity and originality to represent in art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 00:13:50 2019 No.3868803 sometimes i really do want to draw my friends when they ask me to to draw them , but i don't know how to draw unconventionally attractive people (most of them are average to just fucking ugly) so i just pretend to be a dick and say i dont do free art

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 00:30:18 2019 No.3868811 >>3868803 Just draw a generic looking character that mildly resembles them

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 00:34:29 2019 No.3868814 i realised i've had art block for the past 4 years.... i mean i can still draw commissions and studies and whatnot if my job asked me to but all hope for creative outbursts on my personal paintings are now gone... i'm so tired...

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 00:52:54 2019 No.3868828

>>3868529
One option you can do is get a tablet (any decently sized tablet android or apple) and do life drawing with your finger (also a stylus might work too). It's not going to be as ergonomic as a using a regular drawing tool but most people won't suspect that you're drawing them if they just see you swiping on a tablet.

A while ago when I road the bus sometimes I did "life drawing" on my phone. I like using the autodesk sketchbook app to do quick drawings with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 01:45:33 2019 No.3868879 I don't know what I want to do with my art at all aaaaaaa I just need anything to survive and pay the rent but I don't wanna do porn What do aaaaah

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 01:46:45 2019 No.3868880 >>3868529 While normies will ignore you in some countries, some might get you approached by police. An urban sketcher in an fb group im in got his sketchbook confiscated because the police thinks he's suspicious

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 01:48:38 2019 No.3868883 >>3868879 What do you draw

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 01:52:32 2019 No.3868887 >>3868880 >An urban sketcher in an fb group im in got his sketchbook confiscated because the police thinks he's suspicious the heck. What shithole country is that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 01:59:00 2019 No.3868891 >>3867288 >want free time to draw >finally get free time >don't draw What the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 02:10:10 2019 No.3868904 >>3867506 Just remember that plenty of artists did things other than art. Some of the well known mangaka were in medicine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 02:17:21 2019 No.3868907 >>3868904 Huh. Like who?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 02:23:17 2019 No.3868910 >>3868907 Tezuka iirc

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 02:30:58 2019 No.3868915 >>3868907 Junji Itou

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 03:16:38 2019 No.3868944

>>3867288
I hate being unable to improve. I keep seeing artists so much better than me, and I tell myself I'm gonna buckle down and study and draw more so that I can reach their level, but every day when I get home I feel fucking exhausted, and when I do start doing studies they look terrible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 03:26:40 2019 No.3868955 >>3868944 copy old masters

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 03:33:48 2019 No.3868963 >>3868944 >Return https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccGky54sQYc

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 04:08:06 2019 No.3868997

>>3867288
I'm so frustrated at my mother right now. So I'm in a highschool-to-uni break (I am 19, and it's 6 months for me), I spent 2 months working to earn money, two weeks for uni apps and another two weeks doing tiring ad-hoc jobs.

I am applying for an art-related internship right now and realised I haven't been drawing since 3 years ago. My mother can't stop complaining about how ugly my drawings are, and bragging that she used to be an artist because her art teacher praised her in middle school (she can't even draw a flower ffs)

It's times like these when I feel so angry and annoyed. She can't critique my work properly and keeps putting me down for art - BECAUSE I spent the past 3 years of my life studying for academics like crazy

All she does is sit at home, eat snacks, watch the TV, household chores (Ok I understand this can get tough) and complanining. She's been a SAHM for 25 years already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 04:10:15 2019 No.3868999 >>3868997 Know that you’re better than her and never ever let her get to you again. Just brush it off like the wind.

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 04:22:23 2019 No.3869012

>>3868999
Ugh thank you anon, I don't hate her but this is one of my major peeves with her. Deep down inside I know my art is also not that good in foundation, and feel so much shame for it.

She is really someone who adheres to social norms (ISFJ for mbti people) and whenever I try to explain my goals to her, she claims I'm arguing since I get irritated about it. For her, a good life is a simple life with that white picket fence and garden. For me, my life goal is to keep improving on my art. Sometimes I see those parents who encourage their children in art, no matter how bad it is, and feel so jealous

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 05:11:21 2019 No.3869053 >>3868997 She doesnt want anything to do with your art studies and is trying to drag you down. Dont let her get to you

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 05:29:20 2019 No.3869065

>>3868997
Be as mad as you want, anon. Don't feel like you're not allowed to be angry at your own mom. I lived it too so from what I can tell, you've already matured stupidly fast and got a strong spirit and a good head on your shoulders. I hope you find happiness.

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 06:28:16 2019 No.3869141

>>3867506

Taking STEM in itself won't hurt you. The time you spent on STEM could have been used in art, but having been in STEM itself can shape how you solve problems, manage your time, and discipline. It's also a good backup degree to get a job, even in a non-STEM.

Finish that fucking degree and finish it strong. The year or two you'll spend focusing on this degree (and opening a lot of opportunities) is going to be a blimp in your lifetime and won't make a difference in your art gains in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 06:32:45 2019 No.3869149 I feel too comfortable to produce anything I produce my best stuff at the verge of a nervous break down and that's not a healthy attitude to life

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 06:34:01 2019 No.3869150 I have a piece which all the groundwork is down I started in December it's about meeting God at the bus stop and will take a long time to complete I am finding it difficult to start and I think I have pms

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 06:35:41 2019 No.3869153 Spending time on ic slowly brainwashes me as I see people spending a lot of time on their craft and I think Jesus what the fuck have I been doing these past months

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 07:37:30 2019 No.3869228
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I was friend with this girl. I awlays supported her, gave her tutorials, references, red-lined her pathetic excuse of drawings. We were like sisters... she was the retarded sister ofc. I used my very modest """""popularity""""" (around 700 sad followers) to promote her crap because she asked me to.
Five years have passed, she's still a noob, her work is utter crap but now she has over 60k followers on IG and gets commissioned all the time. Why? because she only draws marvel yaoi comics similar to pic related but shittier. She doesn't talk to me anymore, when I asked her if she could give me a hand and promote my account, she blocked me.
I'm su fucking mad, I hope someone hacks her ig account and deletes everything. And I hate the idea of being this jealous of this bitch who can't draw shit.
Fuck. FUCK.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 07:39:28 2019 No.3869230 >>3869228 oof, what a bitch

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 08:00:33 2019 No.3869253 File: 125 KB, 938x960, IMG_20190105_214122.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3869228 I feel you anon, got screwed over by a friend who draws nothing but low tier gay porn art of Invader Zim. Last time I help boost anyone lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 08:04:50 2019 No.3869261 >>3869228 start drawing marvel yaoi shit and steal her niche lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 09:17:06 2019 No.3869331 >>3867310 Are you me?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 09:20:35 2019 No.3869334 File: 380 KB, 1009x708, 7a30648b53f39373e215db7d1cc94ddd67044719e6bb1f8ac7152ffc551e35dc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love drawing shota/loli and I can't stop, even though I know it severely limits my audience and income.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 09:30:15 2019 No.3869339 >>3868529 Quit drawing in parks then go somewhere secluded. I normally go really far back in our local forest park thing where i only see the occasional jogger

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 09:32:24 2019 No.3869341 Daily reminder having Instagram followers isn't "making it"

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 09:36:23 2019 No.3869347

I'm have a hard time understanding body structure. I also made the switch back to traditional which is both good and bad because its note accurate and teaches trigger discipline. But seriously my fucking art is middle school level garbage and it's a bitch trying to improve that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 11:56:27 2019 No.3869473 >>3869334 It also limits your humanity and ability to connect with people properly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 11:58:50 2019 No.3869476 >>3869341 Yeah, making it is money. But then lots of followers probably meansore opportunity for money right?

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 13:27:03 2019 No.3869581
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>>3869334
>>3869473
This. The better I get at drawing loli, the more I want to die, and the more people want to kill me. Wish I got hopelessly addicted to something more socially acceptable, like meth.

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 16:28:49 2019 No.3869816

I see instagram stories and posts of these basic ass friends of mine who take up lettering and watercolor to be muh "artistic" and "Aesthetic" because they saw someone do it on social media. Why? It's just a huge excuse for saying hey look at me I'm a painter but I don't really i know how to paint, I'm artistic without really being an artist. Writing some curly positive flair text and dabbing some shittily painted flowers isn't creative, it's as basic as you can get. It's not even calligraphy either its just plain cursive. And watercolor out if all mediums? Who gave you the illusion that watercolor shoudl be your first painting medium of choice? It's literally the hardest medium you could use. Why not gouache? Even acrylic? But noo the person I follow made watercolor look so easy so it must be an easy medium to work with. I swear normie infuriate me sometimes. I respect lettering and watercolor as valid art forms but it suffers the same problem as singing does. Everyone does it because it seems easy to get into but in reality very few have the drive to actually get good at it and most people just slap it into their personality to make its look like they're more "interesting".

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 16:39:49 2019 No.3869827 >>3869228 that's fucked up, kill her

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 17:05:02 2019 No.3869851

>>3869816
I don't look at social media but throughout my life I have seen the exact type of person you are describing, mostly older women. They get really ''serious'' about their choice, usually watercolor, except they do not study or improve in any way and simply copy the simplest object they can manage onto expensive watercolor paper once every month or two. They might take lessons but are not rigorous about it and draw/paint only to brag about it. They usually buy supplies worth as much as all drawing tools I have ever owned at once yet never use most of them

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 19:25:42 2019 No.3870076
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All the artists I admire started from a very young age. I can't remember a thing about my childhood, I did nothing all that time. For lack of a better term, I feel like some NPC who has somehow achived self-awareness but still can't get out of that weird apathetic state.
I have no spark. I never had any passions to begin with. It's all I want, to lose myself in something like all these people with passion do, but I keep getting distracted by everything mundane and pointless. And when I try to lock my ass in a room to just spend hours drawing, it feels absolutely horrible, because I'm just stuck with myself and my terribly lacking abilities. I don't even feel that bad, I'm just a bunch of nothing. I just want to forget and start anew, man.

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 19:34:48 2019 No.3870089

>>3870076
Get outside passion. I started fighting sports or meeting girls after being a wizard, it helps fuel your sould for inspiration. I mean, it's like visual library. Where do you get passion and emotions from if not from life. Try new things! Anything. Try to be genuinely interested and feel the vibe and connect with the person that participate if it's a group activyt;

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 19:36:18 2019 No.3870093

>>3869816
Listen to me son. You can't do anyting about this. Let her go her own fucked up path but don't waste energy with her. Use your energy for your art. The more you hate, the more you slow yourself down. And this works for anything. Let. Go. Have fun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 20:24:03 2019 No.3870154 File: 15 KB, 400x400, pitt face 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3867288 I got banned for ban evasion even though I wasn't evading any bans and it's negatively influenced by ability to be productive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 22:02:38 2019 No.3870256 >80 combined notes on a drawing im making it bros...

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 22:48:40 2019 No.3870320

>>3867288
I'm starting to believe that talent exists. I saw so many artists who basically were good from the start of their journey. It's like shit->suddenly acceptable-> suddenly guy is pro level. While here's me, knows about fundies, but can't get past a hurdle of getting to pro level and keeps going blank in between of a drawing. Literally everyone regurgitates the same art "tips" and no one goes in depth. I wish someone who can draw well just told what he did to get good without any bullshit. Some times I wonder what the fuck most of /ic/ is doing, what they're going to do when they're not improving. Is shitposting what everyone does when they can't get good? Fuck. I can't figure this out, it's like a maze. Don't ask me to post work because I'm too insecure of my shitty work so I'm not going to post it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 22:58:00 2019 No.3870326 >>3870320 Literally just practice.

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 23:05:34 2019 No.3870330

>>3870326
It's kind of retarded because I am practicing, even though I have no idea if it will work(which it hasn't). Most things aren't explained so it's just blind faith. But I still practice. What about you, Anon? Are you practicing too? Or are you already good at it? If so, how long did it take?

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 23:16:30 2019 No.3870339

>>3870320
without seeing your work I can not say for sure, but the way we view our own art is radically different from the way others do; after reaching a high-end intermediate level. In extreme cases: like when people dealing with anorexia still see themselves as overweight despite becoming full skeletal. I don't mean to imply "just assume that your work is better than what you are seeing" but I think remembering that you are never going to NOT see flaws in what you do is one "secret". Artists won't share every bout of depression they've experienced over their work and every ugly moment they had to endure and eventually find the strength to brute-force their way out of to continue on purposefully drawing. The methods and results in dealing with these periods and lulls are an integral part of the many things that culminate into "getting good"---and yet most pro-artists would say they feel they can still improve on their works even after reaching that level. We all advance at different rates but you have to have the courage to put your nose the the grindstone, even if it takes years upon years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 23:35:44 2019 No.3870353 >>3870339 I can confidently say that I'm beg-medium level. Shit lines. Can't imagine interesting poses. Can't paint forms properly. Etc. But yeah, I'm not gonna stop. Thanks for the optimism- gave me a push.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 23:46:17 2019 No.3870362 >>3870330 I was already good. I don't practice though, so not very good. Lately, I've been working on faith though. You need to believe in some sort of power especially one of higher power if you want the will to persevere even in times of doubt.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 06:52:31 2019 No.3870774
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>Practice something for years and years and still not confident in my own skills
>Practice drawing for a year and I'm still not confident in my own skills despite doing gesture drawings and having confident lines
>Can never do anything deliberate
>Everything I do is a joke because I fear putting real effort into something and getting shit on like I always do
It never ends, does it. I feel like I'll eternally have shit confidence in every single thing that I do. Is it just depression or low self-esteem? I want off this ride.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 07:19:41 2019 No.3870791

>>3870774
You need to stop viewing the drawing as a reflection of your self worth. If you make a bad drawing you are not a bad person. The drawing is a step on the way to your ideal, not the end goal. If you do an exercise and you wobble a little in one of the reps, does it matter? No because the goal is to do the set in order to get fit, not to do each individual rep perfectly. You need to look at the drawing as a means and not an end. A means to get better. Failure and success can be considered identical as you need to fail in order to succeed. You want to aim for doing the reps well of course, but it is irrelevant or rather inevitable that a few are bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 07:33:37 2019 No.3870799 >>3870791 >If you make a bad drawing you are not a bad person. THANK YOU. I really needed to hear that (not the anon you're replying to btw)

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 10:25:28 2019 No.3870965

How do I stop feeling like I'm in the wrong body? I'm fucking serious. I'm turning 27 this year and this stupid fucking 'trans' shit has been fucking with me my entire life. I'd love to keep ignoring this, but it's a very bad influence on my art, I can't design characters without thinking about their gender, what it means for me, how it makes me look, whether my art style looks feminine or masculine. This has been an issue before I even knew what tumblr was, and my parents are conservative. I'm tired of getting depressed about something as stupid about whether I should have a dick or not, just fucking shoot me instead so I can't even think about reproducing

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 11:20:53 2019 No.3871028 >>3867311 what about solid colors? I think in that case it can help emphasize the contrast in certain points of the lines.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 12:31:56 2019 No.3871108

>>3868497
>>3868534
I'm going through the same shit. On lexapro and wellbutrin and my interest in drawing tanked. I still do it but the spark isn't there at all. Everything I do I could take it or leave it and not care. Off the meds though, I'd care too much and go back to violent outbursts and depression.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 12:33:11 2019 No.3871109

>>3870965
Try to look at gender as something that doesn't even exists. There is only masculine and feminine bodies and each sex can be each of those. You can have hulky girls and feminine guys. Your thinking way to much about it anon and your clearly projecting your insecurities onto your art. I went to a therapist for 2 years because I was having some gender dysphoria and was giving some thought to the "trans" idea. But holy fucking shit I'm glad I did that, I never in my right mind would think of transitioning now. Even the idea to me is just so fucking stupid. You won't be happier as the opposite "Gender" cause you'll never actually be that sex. Just dress the way you want, and act the way you want.

In 5-10 years were going to see huge movement of boys and girls (Mostly boys cause the trans ratio is 85:15 MTF) de-transitioning and all the harmful side effects that comes with hormone therapy, it'll be a huge shit show.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 18:56:59 2019 No.3871579 >>3867288 Who is this young lady supposed to be?

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 19:17:41 2019 No.3871593
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>>3867288
>tfw not a single (you), not even a shitpost after you spend over 10 hours on a piece
>you still monitor the thread even after it's at the last pages hoping for anything

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 20:03:00 2019 No.3871628 >>3871593 Which thread did you post?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 20:19:49 2019 No.3871653 Had some shit going on IRL and fell deep into depression but I'm getting back to art after 5-6 months. That stopped me from improving and it felt like much of my time was wasted for not practicing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 20:29:53 2019 No.3871667 >>3871593 how bout you link me to your post so I can give you pity (you)s

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 20:33:40 2019 No.3871672 >>3867340 Well, the disorder was first called Mongolism for a reason

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 20:48:42 2019 No.3871683
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>>3870965
Personally I've just come to accept it after all these years. Watching all the freaks and deviants glorifying this shit made me understand that feeding these delusions wouldn't lead me anywhere, because that's the case, it's pointless. I was born a man, I gotta live with the hand I've been dealt. Kinda what this anon said >>3871109 .
I know that everything is there to remind you of it, but please don't let it get to you that badly, you know it's not worth it. Keep your mind busy with other things, just draw without overthinking everything. Hope you'll get over it sooner than later.
>>3871653
Get back on track quickly! You'll still improve faster that those who left their pens collecting dust.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 20:50:35 2019 No.3871685

>went to The Kubert School straight after high school because I wanted to do either comics or animation
>year I enrolled, they got rid of the animation major, so it was only comics
>was told editors from DC Comics and Marvel would review our work
>editors liked my work but basically said I wasn't good enough to work for them yet
>I'm about to graduate, get no job offers, other students get offered jobs before they graduate
>dont really have any direction as to what to do or where to find work after graduating

>move back home with parents, bad fucking mistake, but I had literally no idea where to go or what to do now

>parents are angry I didnt get work like the school "promised"
>I was pretty much taught how to be a freelancer and not taught how to find a stable job

>the next 3 years after graduating, get a few freelance gigs while working part-time at Macy's
>finding time to improve portfolio has been tough because not in school anymore
>parents dont understand why I'm not considered good enough to get hired by Marvel and Dc and complain why I'm spending so much time in my room to work on my art when I already had 3 years of school to do this.
>decide to go back to traditional cheap college to find a degree in something else I can find skills in as a backup
>after finishing first semester, get contacted by a Kubert School alumni who works as an art director for a slot machine company looking for people who know photoshop to help with Facebook and mobile slot games
>I say I'm interested, I go for interview, get hired

>worked at slot machine company for almost 4 years. During that time, get to do personal art in free time without guilt. Was even commissioned to do storyboards for a friend of a friend to pitch to Nickelodeon
>doing this job, realize I really like storyboarding
>realize I could do this as a career and work for fuckin Disney if I'm good enough

Con't next post

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 20:57:35 2019 No.3871690 >>3867328 Post your 3d stuff

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 21:07:00 2019 No.3871697

>>3871685
>fast forward to 2017, get laid off from slot machine company
>after 6-8 months of not being able to find another full-time job, decide to go back to cheap college
>really enjoy storyboarding now,
>took some storyboarding classes outside of cheap college because they dont offer any animation courses

>plan at this point is to finish school until a job I want comes along

Sorry for the blog story. I'll be 30 this August, and now I've realized I really want to go into animation as a storyboard artist. I'm just pissed because I had the opportunity to go to a school that offered animation, like SVA or SCAD, and instead went to the Kubert School due to the "promises" of getting work in the comics field. I'm angry I didnt get a choice to explore animation and I'm angry that I wasn't told storyboarding was an option.

I mean sure, there's also no guarantees of getting a job if I went to a school like SVA, but at least I would've had a degree to help find any job if I couldn't find a job in the art field. Kubert school was a trade school, so it offered no degrees.

Now I'm a goddamn college Sophmore at 29. I'm hoping I can find a job as a storyboard artist, but I'm sticking with college to find a degree in something else I can do other than draw.

Moral of the story: Dont go to the Kubert School unless you really really really want to do comics for a living and really want to work for Marvel and/or DC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 21:09:28 2019 No.3871699 >>3871697 At least you're making it anon, somewhat. Cheers, hope you'll get that dream job someday.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 21:23:54 2019 No.3871711 File: 109 KB, 478x860, p2s1tyu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3871579 Nekomusume from the Kitaro remake

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 21:25:23 2019 No.3871713 File: 271 KB, 500x468, forwhatreason.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i'm 25

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 21:31:19 2019 No.3871720

I'm mad because my visual library isn't great yet but I wanna draw Spider-Man swinging in this kind of cool way but there's no references for the fucked up poses Spider-Man can achieve. I can probably get away with it looking like ass for the short term since normies won't notice but dammit I want it to look accurate. Fuck normies. I want it to look good for me.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 21:42:20 2019 No.3871733

>>3871699
I hope so too, but I'm afraid at almost 30, I'll be considered too old for anything entry level in the animation industry. Its especially discouraging when you find out Disney TVA just hired a 20-year old as a Story Revisionist.

Also, my boyfriend of 6 years just bought a house with the intention that we'll get engaged soon. Being in the NY/NJ area, it may be tough to just get up and fly to California if I do get that call for my dream job. The ultra-ultimate dream is to work for Disney, Dreamworks, CN, or Nick, but I'd be happy if I got a job at Titmouse here in New York, or Blue Sky Studios, although they're in Connecticut.

Again, sorry for blogpost. I've been having to deal with a lot of heavy decisions overall lately.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 22:44:21 2019 No.3871784 [DELETED]

I get this feeling everyday, anxiety, weakness in my shoulders, like I'm not going to make it, feeling like no matter how good I get things just aren't going to work out, feeling in the back of my mind I'll never get a job I love, I'll never get a girl I love, never experience beautiful things in life like pic related. Something in me says it's not physically possible, there's something wrong with you, you're offbeat, you don't have the right recipe, your not a guy people want around, you're like a bizarro version of what you were suppose to be. I look like brad pitt if he was taken out of the womb 1 month early, an unfortunate man, a bizarro brad pitt. What else can I do, what other options do I have? all I can do is keep pushing forward even though it feels like I'm crawling around looking for some light in an eternity of darkness. I'm 25 now, fuck, I wanted to be living life by the time I was 25, kissing a girl on new years eve you've had a crush on for the last year. I'll probably get a job at 30, and it will probably be underwhelming, that's how most things in life have been in the last 10 years. I'm not giving up though, ever, rather fucking die than except it, rather have a fucking heart attack than to live my life stairing at this computer screen only wishing, going to a job I hate and not doing anything about it. I will try my hardest and fail, go out like a savage animal with rabies, put down to end their suffering, atleast I did my best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 22:45:47 2019 No.3871787 File: 892 KB, 300x300, CF5EABCB-97FD-44FA-90E1-40612381D50E.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHY THE FUCK CAN I NOT DRAW FACES EVEN USING THE LOOMIS METHOD? AM I LEGITIMATELY AUTISTIC?

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 22:46:14 2019 No.3871789 [DELETED]

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I get this feeling everyday, anxiety, weakness in my shoulders, like I'm not going to make it, feeling like no matter how good I get things just aren't going to work out, feeling in the back of my mind I'll never get a job I love, I'll never get a girl I love, never experience beautiful things in life like pic related. Something in me says it's not physically possible, there's something wrong with you, you're offbeat, you don't have the right recipe, your not a guy people want around, you're like a bizarro version of what you were suppose to be. I look like brad pitt if he was taken out of the womb 1 month early, an unfortunate man, a bizarro brad pitt. What else can I do, what other options do I have? all I can do is keep pushing forward even though it feels like I'm crawling around looking for some light in an eternity of darkness. I'm 25 now, fuck, I wanted to be living life by the time I was 25, kissing a girl on new years eve you've had a crush on for the last year. I'll probably get a job at 30, and it will probably be underwhelming, that's how most things in life have been in the last 10 years. I'm not giving up though, ever, rather fucking die than except it, rather have a fucking heart attack than to live my life stairing at this computer screen only wishing, going to a job I hate and not doing anything about it. I will try my hardest and fail, go out like a savage animal with rabies, put down to end their suffering, atleast I did my best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 22:48:34 2019 No.3871791 i feel like im going nowhere even with practice

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 22:49:36 2019 No.3871793 >>3871787 big. same.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 22:50:04 2019 No.3871794
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I get this feeling everyday, anxiety, weakness in my shoulders, like I'm not going to make it, feeling like no matter how much I work things just aren't going to work out, feeling in the back of my mind I'll never get a job I love, I'll never get a girl I love, never experience beautiful things in life like pic related. Something in me says it's not physically possible, there's something wrong with you, you're offbeat, you don't have the right recipe, your not a guy people want around, you're like a bizarro version of what you were suppose to be. I look like brad pitt if he was taken out of the womb 1 month early, an unfortunate man, a bizarro brad pitt. What else can I do, what other options do I have? all I can do is keep pushing forward even though it feels like I'm crawling around looking for some light in an eternity of darkness. I'm 25 now, fuck, I wanted to be living life by the time I was 25, kissing a girl on new years eve you've had a crush on for the last year. I'll probably get a job at 30, and it will probably be underwhelming, that's how most things in life have been in the last 10 years. I'm not giving up though, ever, rather fucking die than except it, rather have a fucking heart attack than to live my life stairing at this computer screen only wishing, going to a job I hate and not doing anything about it. I will try my hardest and fail, go out like a savage animal with rabies, put down to end their suffering, atleast I did my best.

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 23:02:21 2019 No.3871807
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>an acquaintance tells me he's writing a comic story for an anthology that's edited by his friend
>puts me in touch with his editor for me to be the artist for his story
>editor hires me, offers a good rate for inked pages
>excited that I will finally have my art published in a comic that will be distributed nationwide

>get contract, find out it's for a Kickstarter comic
>editor says not to worry, he doesn't intend for me to start working until I get paid. Ok that's good I guess
>realize I will only get this job if Kickstarter is funded

>find out the comic anthology itself is heavily SJW-themed
>8 days left out of 30, and it's only 40% funded

Shit bros, looks like I wont be doing any published comic work. Another denied opportunity.

It seems to be a reoccurring thing in my life. Either the freelance jobs I get fall through, or if I do get paid jobs, my work doesn't get used.

This makes it harder for me to find follow-up gigs because I have no proof I worked for a specific client.

I'm convinced I'm cursed to never have any success in an art career.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 23:05:01 2019 No.3871811 File: 426 KB, 500x255, 1545577644029.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3871787 same here and i feel like a failure

Anonymous Fri Mar 29 23:14:25 2019 No.3871819

>>3871807
On that note, you should still never ever work only for exposure. Always get paid for your work and never let clients take advantage of you, but make sure exposure comes in addition to the money. Word of mouth, and showing future clients "my work was featured on the cover of so-and-so magazine!" helps get more paid work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 23:48:39 2019 No.3871840 >>3871787 I'm the same so I create my own fucked up method in hopes of creating faced

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 00:52:41 2019 No.3871891 File: 2.10 MB, 1340x8892, discord trannies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3870965 >he fell for the discord tranny shilling im sorry bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 00:56:46 2019 No.3871894 File: 17 KB, 420x354, 1477458375220.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3871891 >The discord tranny is actually real thing What the fuck. It's not just a meme?

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 01:06:57 2019 No.3871909

>>3871894
Did you think we were kidding? and the owner is an absolute shitter, too. Dude doesn't pass at all, so I dont know how he even manages to get a beta to donate to him. I got banned once for going against their shit. They're spreading to other boards, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 01:09:55 2019 No.3871910 >>3871909 Is this the same group that got that r9k Anon to kill himself by blowing his head off a while back?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 01:12:32 2019 No.3871913 >>3871910 the r9k anon who an hero'd is not caused by the discord trannies. That was just a rumor. Also there were two cancer tranny discords, but I don't know how many there are know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 01:23:24 2019 No.3871919 >>3871894 /lgbt/ used to have threads openly plotting to take vulnerable/lonely/autistic young kids on r9k and other boards and corrupt them into trans stuff I'm all for letting people do what they want but you shouldn't try corrupt or confuse others.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 01:41:23 2019 No.3871930 >>3871891 The delusions on their goal of getting 'orbiters' is creepy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 01:47:47 2019 No.3871932 >>3870965 So you want to be my qt trans art gf ? AAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 04:48:57 2019 No.3872052 >>3867288 I refuse to draw blooks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 05:05:46 2019 No.3872073 >>3868589 Damn yo, I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like these days, so many people are experiencing something malignant. I hope there is some kind of chemo or treatment for you to go through.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 05:15:06 2019 No.3872084

>>3870320
Show us your shitty work anyway. There's probably someone worse than you. In the end, it's all about consistently sucking until you don't suck anymore. It won't be an overnight thing definitely.

I use to suck ass at drawing. When I was 10, I wanted to draw as good as my cousin drew because I really liked his pen strokes. And even then his drawings were decent compared to a lot of art on here. I guess it all goes down to having that willpower. Draw until you feel pride of your own drawings. And after that, don't stop.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 05:28:25 2019 No.3872091

I haven't been drawing as often as I did since three years ago. I suddenly lost the motivation to draw whenever I have free time. I feel somewhat jaded from how I saw entertainment of today compared to how I saw it before. The amount of things happening in my life have been outweighing the free time that I have to draw. The time that I do have for drawing is at night when my day is over, and by then I'm tired as hell and want to watch TV, play vidya or sleep. It's either those or I really gotta choose to focus on drawing. I usually spend a couple or hours or so on a piece so when I'm finished, I have about 4 or 5 hours of sleep.

I guess what I want from this is more time and motivation to draw like I did three years ago. I feel like my super powers been impaired.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 07:02:33 2019 No.3872166
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Being a religious person is the worst thing you could curse someone with
I'd say I would've killed myself ages ago if I wasn't, but I really am just too much of a pussy

God doesn't really love us, have you heard what the afterlife is like? That's not something made by someone "forgiving" or "loving".
We're all a reource to it, a we live life and output faith. We're convinced we're it's slaves/worshippers and provide faith for it, and in turn we're not allowed to kill ourselves because that would be the loss of a resource to it.

It had the angels worshipping it every moment, but it's pride wanted something more unnatural. It made a creature with freewill and selfishness, placed it in a challenging environment with nothing but tangential proof of it's existence, and then convinced itself that if this creature chooses worship it must be the greatest creator ever, and those who don't are damned and "fools".

Heaven and hell, I've met so many people in my life that deserve neither, but by the scales of judgement would be sorted in. There's also a lot of us, that by god's standards, have lived as good people but will be sent to hell regardless because they didn't fulfill what it calls their purpose, feeding it's ego.

I'm just so tired of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 07:36:15 2019 No.3872190 >>3872166 This is your brain on abrahamism. Get the yahweh shit out of your brain and you'll find religion isn't all that bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 07:47:58 2019 No.3872201 >>3872166 You're not supposed to believe on it

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 07:48:41 2019 No.3872202

>>3872166
>mfw get to church for mass at 10 years old
>church is real beautiful and bright
>people singing wonderful religious songs
>holding each others hands while they sing praises to the lord
>acting all nice to each other
>"peace be with you!"
>"peace be with you, too!"
>but the reality is, woman next to me is a gossiper who backstabs people
>man next to me hates the guts of everyone in the room, and almost stabbed his own brother for money
>the guy singer for the choir and his friends gangraped an IT student girl, and did not suffer any consequences for it
>the woman in front who is crying because she felt "touched" is a two-timing married woman who don't give a rats ass about her own children
>Guy next to her acting all nice and friendly beats his wife's son
>etc etc
>last but not the least, I'm there but I'm a piece of shit too
>this ironic disgusting charade goes on every week and we're all just fooling ourselves
keeek so glad I was never really into religion since childhood.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 07:52:06 2019 No.3872210
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I don't fuckin know what I want to do, lads. Sometimes I want to make my own RPG Maker game, other times I want to make a comic, other times I wanna milk furries for cash. Why can't I just stick to one and do it?

Another thing, I regret losing the audience I was building as a young teen. I had plenty of watchers on deviantart, but I decided to delete my accounts and start fresh for some reason. Now I barely get any attention on my art. Hurts to be really proud of stuff, but no one cares except my boyfriend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 08:04:01 2019 No.3872218 >>3872166 Hell is fucked up. You get to burn FOREVER while your skin regenerates even if you do some inconsequential shit. Also, we already have a non-asspull way to understand nature, Evolution(and other evidence, like age of trees).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 08:06:12 2019 No.3872220 >>3872210 pls be my gf!

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 08:09:42 2019 No.3872222
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>>3869253
Never again
>>3869261
Nah, I don't like marvel shit. I just watch the movies like every other normie. What is worse is that she was super lazy and wouldn't even bore to watch the movie herelf. Instead, she would ask me to explain her every gag in the movie so she could make super funny comics around it. I'm getting mad again.
It only took her one year to gain popularity. She now eats, breathes and shits Marvel. Pic realted is not hers, but it's at the same level of the crap she makes. She charges you 25 bucks for a magnificent chibi in that style (30 if ""detailed""), and they sell like hot cakes. It may not be much, but is money for no effort at all.
Maybe that's the answer. Draw mediocre fanarts, grow yourself a fanbase, so when you really start making decent works, you'll already have the popularity that many of us sadly need to keep doing this. Great, now I'm depressed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 08:20:40 2019 No.3872228 >>3871840 >>3871811 >>3871793 We’re all gunna make it brahs

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 08:27:26 2019 No.3872232 >>3872222 Stop giving in to her favors, idiot. Just ignore her and keep improving your work

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 08:34:14 2019 No.3872237
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>>3872202
Right, man. It's fucking insane. Because of a similar experience I can't help but see everyone like that now, as a two-faced piece of shit who let life get the better of them. I can never feel close to anyone.
>>3872222
Stop obsessing over a mediocre artist anon, it's not worth it. It'll only drag you down to her level. Obsess over good artists that you admire, instead.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 09:18:53 2019 No.3872256

>>3872073
Nah it isn't cancer luckily, I've had that thing in my eye ever since I was little, it should've killed me by now if it was. Still now im waiting for the results of the MRI I got done yesterday, so we'll see. I'm just trying not to freak out and hope is just a fucked up tear gland or something.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 09:41:51 2019 No.3872272

>>3870330
>>3870320
Not that anon, but I always been better than my pears, including the one that draw too. But here is the catch: I have always been drawing more hours per day too.
I wish I could take your pain seriously anon, but everytime I met someone that says shit like that irl, the reality has always been that they just weren't really practicing at all, and grossly overestimated the very little amount that they did practice.
How many hours a day do you draw? Are you drawing consciously ir in autopilot? Do you understand what you did wrong when you fuck up? Do you have a clear goal with each drawing? How much time do you spend studying and practicing vs making finished pieces?

And what do you mean with "most things aren't explained" anyways? Most fundamentals books recomended here explain things in detail.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 09:43:52 2019 No.3872274 >>3872272 >Peers* >The ones* that draw too Ignore all the redaction mistakes, I'm a phone pleb.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 11:11:17 2019 No.3872326

>>3871109
>>3871683
it just fucking sucks because people keep reminding me that I should have children while I still can, and my entire family hates the way I dress.Otherwise I'm actually pretty much alright, the reminders just get to me from time to time.
Guess I just gotta embrace the lesbian life instead.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 11:57:17 2019 No.3872389
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>>3870965
>>3871109
>>3871683
This is so sad. You guys let other people perceptions and you own insecurities dictate your life and repress important shit about who you are.
This sounds so much like homosexuals in denial back in the day. "Sure, I used to like men, but thats so dumb, I realized I just had a mental problem so I married Martha and now I'm cured and we are very happy never having sex"

I hope some of you someday will have the guts to confront the obvious reality you are in denial about, you are trans and no amount of "I-it wouldn't work anyway" rationalizations is going to change that.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 12:17:37 2019 No.3872411

>>3870965
>>3871109
As someone who is not trans and can probably never empathize, I want to l understand what it feels like.

Is it feeling like you're physically born in the wrong sex, like being born biologically female and thinking there should be a penis and testes down there, or is it thinking you're the wrong gender because you don't conform to gender stereotypes?

I've heard stories of trans men saying they always felt they were men because they enjoyed fixing cars and playing with action figures, but I feel like that's just a product of societal expectations.

You can be a man and wear cute dresses, and you can be a woman and be a mechanic. If it sounds wrong, its only because of how our society has been conditioned to see what is considered normal and not normal.

I dont understand people thinking they should be the other gender because of stereotyped interests. I do understand people thinking they should be the other sex, on the basis of feeling dissociative from their biological makeup.

Again, I don't mean to sound insulting, I just cant emphasize what it's like to be transgender.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 12:24:29 2019 No.3872419 >>3872326 I mean, there have been lesbians who have had children. If you ever did want a biological child, IVF exists.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 12:27:39 2019 No.3872421

>>3872389
Or they're gender noncomforming? Or gay? Or something else?

I'll accept that some people are trans, but it's not a one-size-fits-all solution, don't tell people that you know them better than themselves.

I'm sick of little girls being told that because they don't like their body or don't want to grow as 'the weaker sex' that it automatically makes them a man. Sometimes guys just wanna get fucked in the butt or girls don't wanna wear dresses, it doesn't mean they need to change their name and start converting to 50s style gender norms of the opposite sex.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 12:27:41 2019 No.3872422 >>3872166 You should read some C.S. Lewis

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 12:29:03 2019 No.3872423

>>3872389
Gays can be gays without altering their appearances, fucking with their bodies or chopping off their dicks. That is the main difference you're excluding here. I don't care about what people think, it all just disgusts me and I don't want anything to do with it. Thanks, but again, I've accepted it, it is something I don't mind living with.
>>3872411
For me, its based on an obsession over an idealised vision of the female body paired with disgust for my own body and male genitalia. According to Blanchards typology, I'd fit in the autogynephilic side of troonism. You can look it up, I think it's accurate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard%27s_transsexualism_typology
/blog

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 12:59:40 2019 No.3872461 >>3872421 This. I don't know why a guy would want to chop his dick off and get breast implants just because he wants to wear pretty pink dresses and preferred playing with Barbie dolls instead of Nascar as a child

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 13:08:36 2019 No.3872467

>>3872423
>For me, its based on an obsession over an idealised vision of the female body paired with disgust for my own body and male genitalia.

See, that makes sense. But then there are cases where transgendered people say they knew they were trans as a smol child.

I'm pretty sure a 5 year old boy isn't thinking he should have breasts and a vagina instead of a penis.

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 14:27:39 2019 No.3872542

>>3872411
For me it's just a feeling of wrongness? I feel so out of tune with being female, I'm actually borderline disgusted with guys that feel attracted to me, because I know they're partially interested because I look like a woman. I also feel sick about the fact that I'm able to get pregnant, because it truly feels like I shouldn't be able to. That's also why it's so hard for me at the moment, because I'm at prime child-bearing age according to most middle-aged women and they just love to remind me of that on the regular.

>>3872389
I've actually been in therapy for two years now and my therapist also thinks I should confront this issue, but what about all the people in my life that aren't going to understand? What if hormones are going to fuck me up real bad?

at this point I just feel like I have to kill myself at some point, so I've just been drawing like crazy every day. so at least there's something good that's come out of it

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 20:59:21 2019 No.3872891
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My frustration is that,in EVERY book, video, tutorial, etc, you see, the author is holding things back from you, even when you BUY his stuff, even the people who are not selling anything only make tutorials like ''draw the rest of the owl''. Not only that they all start on the assumption that you already know this or that, even when they are making they materials for 100% beginners..That is my only explanation for the fact that no resource that I have ever seen guides you throught things, it feels like at some point they all found THE solution, conquered their plateau and went on a easy ride deciding not to tell anyone how and only giving breadcrumbs. It is either the fact that they just can't teach and reach the issues the beginners have.

Want to get good at drawing is not going up a new step, there are no steps, there are not even stairs, everything is everywhere and nobody have a real progressive system aimed at getting you from 0 to 100 ("learn perspective, anatomy, gesture and voilà" is not a solution).

I don't want to feel stuff Vilppu, I want the fucking rules.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 21:18:57 2019 No.3872907 >>3872891 No rules just tools :^)

Anonymous Sat Mar 30 22:41:41 2019 No.3873025

>>3872542
>I'm actually borderline disgusted with guys that feel attracted to me, because I know they're partially interested because I look like a woman.

I mean, are you attracted to men at all, or are you sexually attracted to women? Hell, are you asexual? Because being sexually attracted to someone =/= being a certain gender. There are men who become women but are still sexual attracted to women. Like Caitlyn Jenner (although she's not the greatest example)

> I also feel sick about the fact that I'm able to get pregnant, because it truly feels like I shouldn't be able to

There are tons of women who dont want to get pregnant. I'm a woman who's secure in being female but pregnancy scares the shit out of me. I mean, I would maybe like to have kids one day, but pregnancy freaks me out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 03:42:33 2019 No.3873217 >>3872891 How would you define a hard rule for something as visually obvious as "feel the form"?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 11:48:35 2019 No.3873611

>>3872891
>''draw the rest of the owl''.
i.e, look at reference, break that reference down into primitive shapes and then gradually build the design within them either with line or with value and color. do enough studies until you feel like you understand the structure and then apply them to imaginative work.
>http://graphicla.tumblr.com/post/68284245282/ive-been-rethinking-ideas-about-composition-since#notes

this is the most retard proof version of the painting process.
>"learn perspective, anatomy, gesture and voilà" is not a solution
the things i paint and i the way i have to approach painting them changes almost every day, but these are the concepts i always fall back upon to get it right. maybe instead of being so fixated on finding some comprehensive tutorial for everything, just watch the way good artists work & try incorporating what you see into your own process.
>>3870965
before you even worry about having a dick or not, just start living, dressing and expressing yourself in a way that is more in line with how you feel. you can do this both in life and in your art. you also need to set realistic goals for self improvement that align to the physical constraints of your frame. you probably wont ever be a 2d anime girl even with pills & surgeries and everything else, but you can become generally more femme, get in better shape, take better care of your skin & hair, learn how to use makeup and dress cuter etc. however none of this is a substitute for learning how to deal with bdd because even if you go to the greatest extremes, it wont feel good enough until you learn how to feel ok with yourself. that's the hardest part.
>>3872891
hrt is an extreme step & the last in a long line of things you should do to self actualize. but with that said, girls tend to respond better to T than boys do to E.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 14:03:36 2019 No.3873786 >>3873611 >but you can become generally more femme The poster is already a girl.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:28:59 2019 No.3873891
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>>3867288
>have been drawing nothing but human figures >for 5 years
they still look like shit
>read countless guides/books on how to improve
>spend days grinding and practicing figures
>nothing but slightly more dynamic poses to show for it
just why man?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:40:31 2019 No.3873898 >>3873891 have you tried attending life drawing sessions anon?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:40:56 2019 No.3873899
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I know what I need to do to improve and get better but I can't find the will power to do it anymore. I've been trying again and again since 2014 and it's all just tiresome at this point. I say "today I'm finally going to do it" and end up wasting in on video games and getting my ass kicked in fucking video games.

Here is the thing video games have taught me though, especially fighting games, is that I can play a game for fun and enjoy it so as long as I win here and there while having a laugh. This was my personal rule for as long as I've been playing video games. But I'm getting to the point where just winning "here and there" isn't doing it for me anymore. 9 times out of 10 I lose a match and feel like shit. "why is this guy so much better than me how the FUCK is he spamming that combo over and over? Etc." But I know the reason...

The reason is obvious, they play for hours and practice in tutorial mode all day. They take the time to learn how to play instead of just jumping into a match like me and hoping for the best. That is comparable to drawing. I'm fiddling around with drawing without actually sitting down and doing the real work required. I'm a dabbler who "does things so as long as I felt like I had fun doing it but daydreams of being at the top but doesn't want to do whats needed to reach the top."I know this but I'm too paralyzed to even get started "trying".Because it's confirmation "have I actually TRIED to get better?"

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:46:56 2019 No.3873903 >>3867288 i just want to enjoy the process of creating something the same way i used to when i was a kid/young teenager again

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:48:11 2019 No.3873907 >>3873898 >have you tried attending life drawing sessions anon? i'm a poorfag anon i can baraly scrape enough cash together to pay rent and even when i use refrences my art looks kind of stiff especially around the arms and with folds in cloth..

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 15:54:11 2019 No.3873919 >>3873899 If you're jumping into matches and losing like an anime protagonist then you should awaken some Sasuke powers where you suddenly get faster and magically do better than you usually do.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:01:20 2019 No.3873932

>>3873919

Often times just switching characters helps me win while the leftover anger from the last match helps me be more alert at what I'm pressing. But most of the time it's just a hard reality that I'm just shit and will never beat X person because they know how to counter my amateur mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:06:21 2019 No.3873938 >>3873891 Have you been drawing literally only human figures for 5 years? No finished drawings and such? You gotta do more of those.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:06:55 2019 No.3873939

>>3873025
yeah I probably wasn't really clear enough about it, but it's just that everything that connects me with being female makes me incredibly uncomfortable. I'm not talking about not fitting into certain stereotypes either. Sometimes, when I stay at home for a couple days at a time, I completely forget what I look like and then I see my tits and how soft my body looks, and it just immediately drags me to a bad place mentally. Used to starve myself to get rid of my curves, but that's no way to live either.

I've also never truly been sexually attracted to anyone, the most I can say is that women are more aesthetically pleasing to me than men

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:06:58 2019 No.3873940

>>3873932
>and will never beat X person because they know how to counter my amateur mistakes.
do you play ranked or competative or something? usually plebs are matched with other plebs not autist who devoted there entire lives to seal clubbing noobs in a vidio games.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:12:27 2019 No.3873945

>>3873940

>usually plebs are matched with other plebs not autist who devoted there entire lives to seal clubbing noobs in a vidio games

Yes but that really doesn't apply to fighters. You'll get matched with anyone lower or higher if you don't use "ranked" or go into a lobby.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:14:21 2019 No.3873946
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>>3873938
>Have you been drawing literally only human figures for 5 years?
well iv been practicing prespective and architecture recently but otherwise i never bothered to draw anything but human figures in the past 5 years and most of those are incomplete scetches a such.

>>3873938
>No finished drawings and such?
i have a couple but i trow most of em away feel free to shit on them lmao.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:18:28 2019 No.3873950

>>3873945
>Yes but that really doesn't apply to fighters. You'll get matched with anyone lower or higher if you don't use "ranked" or go into a lobby.
well i almost never play fighters but usually the only time pro's go to seal club noobs is to get an ego boost from destroying begginers.

>>3873946
shit i really need to get a better phone that pic quallity is horrid.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:22:47 2019 No.3873954

>>3872542
I hope I won't make your problem worse and I don't meant to say that just a few words can solve it, but you are putting a whole lot of attention on the very least important part of yourself which is your body's form. Do some exercise and stay healthy, that is all you need. All that really matters is what is in your head, what you give to others, and the work you put out in this world. In a sense, it's a lot like art. You produce work and you are critical of it and you hate it because it's not perfect, but it will never be perfect. So you accept the work you make as it is. You take a good look in the mirror and accept your body as it is. You play with the hand you're dealt.
>Recognize this as a holy gift and
>celebrate this chance to be
>alive and breathing
I know it's not a sex/dating thing in your case, but say, I hate when girls with a big nose get a nose job, I like girls with a Roman nose. I think this trans issue is coming up so much in our society because we are obsessed with appearance and sex, men women gay straight ugly beautiful. it's all so irrelevant. I dated ugly girls over attractive ones because they were interesting as people. I regularly kissed a guy. I just say I'm straight as a convention because I usually like girls but maybe one day I'll meet a dude and I'll be madly in love.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:31:49 2019 No.3873966

>>3873954
I feel like one of the things that gets glossed over in these kinds of conversations is how important family, and having kids is culturally. For the vastness of time having kids was the primary goal in life, and contributing to society was how you did this.
So to try and live as an emotionally stable person who gets their sense of value only from contributing to society and not from having kids is naturally going to be difficult.
You likely feel conflict on the issue from within, and if not, you will certainly feel out of step with the vast majority of people. I imagine it would be quite disconcerting.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:44:43 2019 No.3873978

I was a "le gifted as a kid so didnt know how to work hard" meme
Around early march this year I had a moment of clarity and started up a 5hr a day drawing schedule to git gud.
I'm 24 and I cant keep up an online prescence because every time I see some younger artist post their masterpieces on twitter or w/e I silently curse myself for being such a lazy fucker years ago. Shit's just not good for my mental state and I'm afraid ill just quit again.
Trying to pull a doomer to bloomer thing for life in general as well.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:51:41 2019 No.3873985

>>3873946
Your drawing looks alright anon. Needs more work!
>and most of those are incomplete scetches a such.
>i have a couple but i trow most of em away feel free to shit on them lmao.
That, right there, is your problem. Please do yourself a favor and start doing completed drawings, you'll learn a TON. Use studies on the side as warmups and tools in case you're really stuck on something. It's the next logical step if you want to improve. Even if it looks like hot trash and all you want is to tear it in half (I've been there), keep at it, you'll see. You can't stick to grey studies and incomplete drawings, it's not fun... Do it anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:52:10 2019 No.3873987 >>3873978 >I was a "le gifted as a kid so didnt know how to work hard" meme glad to know i wasn't the only one lmao.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 16:57:44 2019 No.3873994

>>3873985
>Your drawing looks alright anon.
thanks anon good to hear somoene say that in this cesspool once in a while.

>Needs more work!
such as? i could try coloring but i only have a shitty 3 euro coloring set.

>tools
such as? or are you talking about digital?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:02:01 2019 No.3874004
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I can't remember the last time I finished something
All I draw now are unfinished sketches, I can't finish anything.
I practice until I think "maybe I can do this", I start drawing a character in a specific pose and it all falls apart 10 hours of art later.

I just hate it, I know it's not going to get better if I don't finish it but I just fucking hate it. It eventually reaches a point where I just feel like I'm trying to fix something unfixable, and drop it.

Then I go back to drawing random, purposeless shit

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:09:01 2019 No.3874014

>>3873994
>such as? i could try coloring but i only have a shitty 3 euro coloring set.
It looks flat at certain places: the horns, the face, the neck, under the belt and the bottom of the scepter.
You could fix that with shading, don't hesitate to do it more heavily. Even if you fuck up you'll have learned a bit from your mistakes. Identify light sources, make shading more noticeable. Again, there's a fair chance of it looking like trash as a result if you fuck up, but you won't learn otherwise.
>such as? or are you talking about digital?
I mean imagine if you can't do a hand in a certain position? You keep fucking up the feet of some character? Then and only them you should bust out your Loomis book and study hands or feet for a bit, use refs, that's what studies are for, support your drawings, a tool, they aren't an objective in itself to mindlessly draw unless you aim to be Vilppu 2.0 or something.

>>3874004
Why are you drawing?

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:16:21 2019 No.3874027
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>>3874014
I want to draw comics, I have at least 10 "Page 1"s from projects I started, all which were supposed to be less than 5 pages
I get ~75% through the page, get sick of looking at it, and feel like I'm wasting my (extremely limited) time trying to make it look good.

I end up dropping it and going back to drawing figures or studying animals, i.e. inconsequential shit that barely transfers to the comics I want to draw, but still counts as studying

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 17:18:58 2019 No.3874032

>>3874014
>You could fix that with shading, don't hesitate to do it more heavily. Even if you fuck up you'll have learned a bit from your mistakes. Identify light sources, make shading more noticeable. Again, there's a fair chance of it looking like trash as a result if you fuck up, but you won't learn otherwise.
alright more shading got it you got any tips on how to do better folds? been struggling with them for a while now.

>Vilppu
who's vilppu?

>You keep fucking up the feet of some character? Then and only them you should bust out your Loomis book and study hands or feet for a bit,
never thought about doing that thanks usually when i grind i draw entire figures.

>>3874027
>I want to draw comics, I have at least 10 "Page 1"s from projects I started, all which were supposed to be less than 5 pages
>I get ~75% through the page, get sick of looking at it
i know that feel man trying to come up with intresting compositions for storyboarding and then drawing the fucking panels always puts me off from finishing it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:21:07 2019 No.3874113 I work full time and live with family. It's really hard to have the energy and uninterrupted time to draw and study consistently.

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 18:33:58 2019 No.3874127

>>3873899
what fightan do you play anon?
you could always just play dragonball, that game is scrubby as hell :^)

years don't really mean a hell of a lot if you aren't consciously and effectively studying over that period of time. there are plenty of people who have drawn aimlessly their whole lives and never really improved versus people who grind fundies for one or two years & get to an employable level. maybe if you can't self-motivate, consider trying something more structured like an atelier or any of those concept art/illustration intensives
>>3874113
then just work in shorter intervals whenever you *do* have a free moment. the skills you learn even with 5 to 15 minute life drawings will carry over

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 20:13:07 2019 No.3874272 >>3874127 UNIST and blazblue mostly nowadays I have a sudden surge of motivation again. I shall use it wisely before slaving at the office again tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 21:01:14 2019 No.3874320 File: 393 KB, 814x1250, d7ebae0478508982d9b97cc8de5cff5d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3874027 Another Hellboy page I found, Mike is fucking nuts man

Anonymous Sun Mar 31 21:30:38 2019 No.3874358

>>3873899
>The reason is obvious, they play for hours and practice in tutorial mode all day. They take the time to learn how to play instead of just jumping into a match like me and hoping for the best. >Because it's confirmation "have I actually TRIED to get better?"
I picked up art a year ago after starting to take some fgs more seriously. It taught me I can do anything if I put the time into it. Check out your steam or whatever you play on and the hours played. Imagine putting those hours played into art or any hobby. I think you still have the wrong concept about getting better at fighting games because of being a dabbler. There are so many parallels I've been able to draw between the two in terms of improving and generalizing that to anything.

The people are better because they have the mileage like in drawing. They practice situations they don't have a solution for in the training mode, they practice execution of difficult combos, look up frame data to see what's punishable/safe/unsafe on their end, they know situational combos, they understand spacing and defense, they watch high level play and take notes, they watch their own replays and take notes. You can do all of that with drawing too: draw studies that you don't understand, practice your dexterity, practice your fundamentals like perspective/anatomy/composition, watch tutorials of people that know more than you, read books, look at the masters, review/get critique of your works. It's all up to how you spend your time. You can procrastinate forever and dream about being good or you can slowly make it a habit to improve with constructive steps. I've seen discipline of learning a fighting game carry over to benefits in a lot of other parts of my life because I never had to try hard to do anything before fighting games or art, school and things came naturally.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 21:50:01 2019 No.3874380 >>3867340 Now that's fucking hilarious. I just checked. I will be showing every friend I have.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 22:31:08 2019 No.3874429 File: 58 KB, 960x720, fuck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was gonna make today a drawing day but ended up browsing the internet and playing risk of rain 2.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 00:33:41 2019 No.3874507

I also find it difficult to come up with a context/narrative to such ideas when they all fall into at least a certain trope/s. Creature design is what I normally like doing, but they all turn like Wayne Barlowe or Anthony Jones copycats. It's very hard to come up with something original if someone that you may/may not be aware has already come up with it before you and done it better than you.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 01:18:05 2019 No.3874579
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tonight was the second night I dreamt of my dad saying to me "why do you draw, son, you'll get nothing out of this" in less than 2 weeks

Funny thing is that he isn't like that at all, he actually supports me and likes drawing himself. Maybe it's some insecurity thing, I've been drawing everyday for about 5 months now but I'm still a bit lost as in no clear future goal

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 01:45:02 2019 No.3874596 having some serious ngmi vibes

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:18:19 2019 No.3874636
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i KNOW i'm getting better each week but my posts are getting less and less traction each time. It's sad as fuck, a shitty rapthtalia sketch and a pokemon fanart got me 3000 impressions while my recent stuff gets 50 impressions at most
Fuck social media, seriously. /ic/ is the only decent place to post art nowadays

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:27:12 2019 No.3874642

>>3874636
Every time you learn something new you will get worse as you try to fit the new skill into your procedure.

This is why artists tend to plateau as soon as they start being able to earn money. If they actually learn and apply new skills they might not make work up to the standard of their normal work. So they just continue making their barely OK art for entry level commissions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:37:19 2019 No.3874647 >>3870965 Please go to a gender clinic near you and talk to a doctor there. They can refer you to trans-friendly therapists who will help you come to terms with yourself.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:40:42 2019 No.3874649

>>3870965
Also please ignore the anons saying to ignore that you're trans and accept your biological sex. They dont have you best interests at heart; they just disrespect trans people. If you want to be the opposite sex, you can be. You can do what you want with your body.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:46:07 2019 No.3874653 >>3872542 Bruh just start T lmao shits awesome

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:47:41 2019 No.3874654

>>3874636
>>3874636
engagement isn't really reflective of skill anon.
motherfucking linran doesn't even have 30 followers on pixiv and gets abysmal impressions. nonartists can't really perceive differences in technique, everything beyond their level just sort of blends together as 'good'. therefore the only meaningful differences you can convey to them come in terms of relatability & ease of marketing.
don't worry about the chasing numbers while you're learning, don't even worry about them too much afterwards either.
>>3874649
>>3874647
also ignore anons who try to pigeonhole you into being pinkpilled in order to fulfill their messiah complex. they don't care about you as a person, just a predetermined outcome of who they want you to be irregardless if it completely ignores the complexity of real people.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:51:08 2019 No.3874657
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>3867288
Here's my vent. Why is there so much goddamn reading we have to do? The fucking YouTubers should do their damn job and make a useful video that condenses those books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 02:55:38 2019 No.3874661 Rolled 94 (1d100) >>3874657 Check out VolenCK and Sycra if you haven't already. And reading books doesn't take much time either, just give it a day or two.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 03:46:03 2019 No.3874688 >>3874654 So what the fuck am i supposed to do? How do people even succeed on social media?

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 03:55:16 2019 No.3874694

>>3867318
I published a game I made using my art, music, and writing skills. So far, it has a very positive critical reception, despite not may people playing it. These are not my friends, these are genuine internet strangers who think my work is a ten out of ten. They have no incentive for rating my work highly, yet they still do. It makes me extremely happy and stisfied, and I think that nowadays I feel more inspired than ever to put out something else great. I think that's what being an artist is all about.

If I can make it, so can you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 04:27:13 2019 No.3874721 >>3874694 Maybe you could send it? I'm curious about how it turned out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 05:28:43 2019 No.3874759 >>3874694 Great job on that, Anon. I can only imagine how great it must feel to pull that off. Hopefully I can do it too, even if not by 2020.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 05:29:14 2019 No.3874761 File: 261 KB, 2661x1600, IMG_20190401_172405.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I fucking hate beanmouths they induce so much rage in me

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 05:35:42 2019 No.3874766
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I'm a sexually frustrated pervert. My motivation comes from the thought of mindfucked anime girls in the lewdest scenarios. In practice, it's hard for me to channel this into motivation to get good, because I just tend to beat my junk to eternity before I can even pick up the pen.

There's other ways of achieving hentai euphoria besides drawing that make me reevaluate my choice in art medium, like music, and 3d modelling. Music by moeshop really captures the ecchi mood I want to convey. And since music has a lot more replayability than art, its easier for it to propagate through media compared to seeing art once and never again. 3d modelling/animation because VR is the future.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 06:16:03 2019 No.3874793

>>3874688
You keep posting stuff and keep building up your fanbase, shit can take years even if you're jumping on every trend possible. Also looking over your twitter you only have this Chika image "finished"(that blur on top of her head is really distracting) and in rest only sketches. Normies don't like random sketches especially those flat ones without value, only other artists are impressed by the construction/anatomy behind them.
As for the pokemon fanart, not only is pokemon really mainstream but you also drew it around the time the new pokemon trailer dropped. Maybe the raphtalia sketch got retweeted by someone popular? who knows
If you're looking for likes try drawing porn/characters interacting with each other

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 07:07:40 2019 No.3874842

>>3874654
>also ignore anons who try to pigeonhole you into being pinkpilled in order to fulfill their messiah complex. they don't care about you as a person, just a predetermined outcome of who they want you to be irregardless if it completely ignores the complexity of real people.
Hilariously ironic.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 10:52:08 2019 No.3875050
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>>3867288
I think art is making me like and trust women less.
I like drawing cute, comfy, NON LEWD boys, but the vast majority of people making that stuff are tumblr fujoshis who have a fetish for gay guys and exploit it so they can shill fucking stickers and badges and shit on their stores. They get increasingly tumblr and pick a fandom and mercilessly exploit any male friendship in it to appeal to other thirsty fujos.

There's also that thread on relationships. Majority of those here in relationships are female and it sounds like a lot have secured a bf with a regular job who provides partly or entirely for them, giving them so much more time for art. I also watched a video on an artists "day in the life" type thing, and was wondering how they could have such a great set up, studio and time for passion projects when they got to 5pm and their bf came home and they have dinner and watch netflix.

I have some great female friends from here so I know it's not everyone, but I'm frustrated at women exploiting something I like for money and popularity, it makes me want to do it less, and it also makes me quite sad knowing that as a guy I can't get this easymode where a fiance provides for you and you just get gud while they're at work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 10:59:12 2019 No.3875056 >>3874761 >hating something because its been simplified Ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 11:14:37 2019 No.3875071 >>3874793 I see, good advice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 11:16:17 2019 No.3875075 >>3873946 >>3874032 >drawing of humans looks like shit >doesn't know who vilpu is Solved your problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 11:21:12 2019 No.3875083 >>3874429 Based me, except I actually did my drawings as well.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 11:24:49 2019 No.3875088
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>>3875050
>tfw no qt /cm/drawfag bf to cuddle with

fujos are okay if they draw my husbando well. the rest are trash though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 11:32:14 2019 No.3875094 File: 62 KB, 617x630, mmimmzel-967734731029676032-20180225_201514-img1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3875088 stay away from the western fujo community as much as possible and you'll have a great time

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 13:02:48 2019 No.3875159

>post new work on twitter like I usually do expecting 1-2 likes
>somehow it got retweet and get 50 likes and 13 new followers that commented on my post over night
>get anxious every time i think of something new to draw because I don't want to dissapoint my new followers
fuck man at least the random followers i get on pixiv don't feel real since they never comment on my shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 13:55:58 2019 No.3875212 >>3867288 Ive been studying and trying to understand 3d space but it seems impossible. I read about perspective and get the basics but I would like some excresies on how to learn 3D space.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 13:58:29 2019 No.3875214 >>3875159 I feel this. But also just ignore it. Luckily when the tumblr purge happened I lost probably half of my following. The rest are distributed among a bunch of platforms, so it feels smaller.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 15:35:48 2019 No.3875289
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I just going to keep gesturing cute boys on a blank void background for the rest of my life until I eventually kill myself before hitting 30, I'm giving up trying to fuck around thinking I can do better, I'm much too lazy and autistic to actually concentrate and put effort into this. Maybe I truly don't feel so strongly about art as I'm about undermining my own accomplishments.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 15:43:34 2019 No.3875299 >>3875289 pyw i wanna see cute bois. i also started art to draw guys

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 16:08:24 2019 No.3875324 >>3875299 Nah I make myself cringe every time I post any of my stuff. Good luck anon, I hope you make it.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 16:37:01 2019 No.3875351

>>3872166
>For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.- John 3:16
>Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.- Colossians 3:13
>If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.-John 1:9
God loves humanity. You do not know who will go to heaven or hell, that knowledge is with God, as is the knowledge of why God created humanity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 16:44:47 2019 No.3875358 >>3874647 I've been in therapy for 3 years now, and my therapist also thinks that I can't just ignore how I feel about my body, but I still struggle to accept this

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:40:04 2019 No.3875569 >>3875289 Likes for frog-chan!

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:46:38 2019 No.3875579

>>3874793
> Normies don't like random sketches especially those flat ones without value

They really don't, I experimented with friends, girls and guys, showing different types of drawing, and the powerful rough stuff or flowy sketches got a "meh yeah why not", but then their eyes spark when I showed rigid uninspired polished turds.
Fuck.

(I didn't think about it but I'm pretty sure doodly cute clean stuff would get normies easily too. Especially if you just go "totally me irl". In those cases it seems there's no need for even a punchline or creativity, juste state facts with cute doodles)

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:49:10 2019 No.3875583

>>3874694
Tell me more. If you wanna share without whoring out (but why the hell not, it's still views), I can give an email or discord so you can send the name to me.

If not : Did you hire a programer? If not what did you learn? What type of game is it? Anything of similar quality you could compare it to?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:50:13 2019 No.3875584 >>3874766 So what? Sex is part of life. Go all out. Alienate some people but get your niche. You might evolve later but let your art tell about what you like right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 19:51:04 2019 No.3875586 File: 84 KB, 800x450, turning-girls-5648-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3875569 Kero kero

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 22:31:13 2019 No.3875702 >>3875351 Please don't just preach shit at people who find a problem with religion. Its highly patronizing and just seems like shitposting after a point.

Anonymous Mon Apr 1 23:49:12 2019 No.3875739

>>3874649
what is with trans people trying to convince anyone with a mental disorder to just immediately get on hormones? Is it because you mentally ill freaks can't reproduce like every other creature so you have to act like germs and infecting people? The person talking about hating their body should go see a therapist and a mental health expert first and foremost. Making a rash radical change in the hopes of fixing a deep seated problem is not the answer.
>>3873939
If you find women more aesthetically pleasing then men, it really doesn't make sense why you apparently are so upset with your body and feel so disassociated with it. I don't know your life, but from your few post it seems like your just incredibly unhappy with your body for what ever reason. Past, negative experience, lack of positive experience or some legitimate mental disorder, please do not take some extreme measure.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 00:20:02 2019 No.3875749

I literally can't draw anymore
I have ideas but i feel uncreative as fuck, and even when i get motivated i simply can't pick up the pen and start something. I just feel like i won't even make it
The shitty part is i do freelance for work, so lately i've been earning less and less money because i've only been doing design work. I don't even know if i could go back to NSFW because i deleted my old profile and now i have no idea if i could ever get the same amount of people following my work as before(even if i definitely do better work now) because i feel completely embarrassed by what i draw, and have no idea how to promote it.
I just want to feel good drawing again, i want it to not feel like a chore everytime man, i miss drawing stuff and feeling great with it

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 00:32:05 2019 No.3875754

I can’t separate my ego from my art.
I know criticism I receive is valid and meant to help me improve, but it reminds me how shit I still am and in turn I feel worthless as a person.
If people don’t like my art, they don’t like me.
And if they don’t like me they probably have valid reason.
Because of this I only lurk /ic/ and glean what I can while posting my own work in hugbox forums that stroke my ego.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 00:43:05 2019 No.3875759 >>3875754 At least you got a hugbox somewhere For me theres no place I can post stuff regularly without getting anxious

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 01:02:19 2019 No.3875769

>>3875739
You can like clothes without wanting to wear them, anon. I mean, my boobs look nice because their boobs, but I don't want them. I haven't been very specific because this is still an art board and I don't really wish to clog this thread up with unnecessarily long posts

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 01:03:30 2019 No.3875771 File: 80 KB, 507x338, 1483151992566.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOW THE FUCK DO I BUILD AN AUDIENCE I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS AND I'M NOT EVEN THAT BAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 01:38:08 2019 No.3875805 >>3875702 I don’t think he was preaching, the other anon has an erroneous understanding of religion unless he’s a gnostic or something

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 01:51:15 2019 No.3875819 I have tinnitus and insomnia and i'm too sad about it to draw

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 08:45:36 2019 No.3876147 >>3875289 can you tell me the source of your picture's anime? all I can remember is that its a short series on youtube about 4 girls who are all +30 year olds.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 09:04:26 2019 No.3876169

>>3875754
>if people dont like my art, they dont like me
that's very wrong. If I shit on your art, it's because of your art and not because I hate you. I'm sure the same goes for the people who have crit'd you.

>>3875579
Not him, but in my experience, it doesnt even have to be polished. As long as it's memeworthy and has the appeal to be post/spamworthy like a macro image, then it'll get a lot of people's attention. With this, you get tons of pictures drawn with thick, rigid lineart and just base colors, but since they're spamworthy and "funny", it'll get circulated around the net than the polished turd counterpart. So I guess for normie attention grab, it's like:

trendy pictures that bring positive emotions > polished turds > roughs/sketches of actual skill

this is also why those shitty comics with really plain artstyle get so popular. They invoke emotions and are "omg this is so totally me! xP"

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 09:20:15 2019 No.3876182 >>3875771 You draw fanart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 09:35:07 2019 No.3876191 >>3868268 I started because I wanted to draw tiddies and feet, and this is all I do

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 11:40:17 2019 No.3876293 >it's another 'there's so many things I want to draw but don't know what to draw' episode

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:01:44 2019 No.3876310

>>3867288
I’m fucking drilling observation, gesture drawing, and figure drawing, but I can’t nail proportions for shit. I’m getting worried my brain is just too fucking dumb to understand proportions and relative measurements.

I’m not going to stop, but I am aggravated.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 12:24:40 2019 No.3876330

>>3867288

I've been doing thankless requests from nobodies on devianart and barely breaking double digits in terms of views and favorites.

This has been going on for three going on four years and I'm fucking tired of being these faggots personal source of degenerate jack off material without any even a second glance. And then when I finally start asking for commissions, I get called a shill.

I just can't fucking win.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:44:16 2019 No.3876405 >>3867288 >decent artbook on amazon\ebay >wow it's affordable, I want to bu- >shipping is 3 times than the book price Hehdifnrkwkebdrjffksknenchddmndk

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:45:12 2019 No.3876406

>>3870965
as someone coming from the same (non-mtf) position, i've been dealing with this a lot too. i've wobbled between transitioning and detransitioning four or five goddamn times just in the last few years. it sucks. i've had an easier time just settling on being silently non-binary than trying to figure out if I value my desire to lessen dysphoria vs societal expectations. it's even harder if you're not white/western bc of stricter/more violent gender expectations and consequences. if you're still young then just plan on getting tf out and figure everything gender-related out later. then you won't be fighting yourself trying to figure out if you actual feel gender dysphoria, versus body dysmorphia or general depression. tl;dr anon you need to remove yourself from your situation to really know how you feel and how to deal with it. don't let channers or hugboxes influence your opinion. do what you think is right for you. from one gender confused dyke and/or fag to another, I believe in you anon. other people are shit anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 13:48:27 2019 No.3876408 >>3871720 if you can't find photos but have a mirror and camera just do goofy poses yourself to reference off. to get airborne poses, put your back to the ground or combine different poses for the weightless feel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 14:35:31 2019 No.3876462 i really hate posting my art on twitter and seeing my art not getting any feedback frm anyone while at the same time seeing them post, so its obvious theyre ignoring my art . hurts more when its your friends

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:05:29 2019 No.3876495 >>3875586 Very cute, thanks for sharing

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:13:39 2019 No.3876505
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My shitty drawings usually get between 30 and 50 likes on instagram but I still feel embarrassed if I look at them again. I can't stand having my shameful art on display for everyone to see. Social media is a blessing and a curse for me. On one hand it motivates me to draw more and on the other hand it causes a lot of stress because I feel like I need to deliver something. Then I start rushing things and end up uploading work I'm not happy with.
Today I deleted half my gallery and I'm thinking of deleting the rest too. I want to start over and take things more slowly and only upload the stuff that's actually decent. I guess I can put shitty sketches in the stories or something. My only fear is that I will hate the stuff I upload now just as much in a few weeks and I'll be tempted to delete it again. How do I stop being so fucking ashamed of my work?
Also I don't know whether to scan or take photos of my drawings. So far I've been scanning things with my phone but now I think it looks really sterile and weird. Should I just take photos?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:27:18 2019 No.3876517 >>3876330 Who calls you a shill?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 15:28:52 2019 No.3876520
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>>3876505
>How do I stop being so fucking ashamed of my work?
Don't delete it! You own it anon. You're putting your shit out there, that's already really nice, I hate to see artists deleting their old stuff, even if it's trash. If you compare your oldest piece with your most recent one, you should see improvement, depending on how long you've been at it. You could try doing a little chart showing your improvement, it's always something I look forward to doing once in a while.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:16:32 2019 No.3876650

>>3876310
I can relate. I've done a few hundreds of figures so far. I just tried to keep inventing methods because fuck grids. And I'm almost good at copying from observation. What I do is either try to imagine a horizontal line and compare the angle(sight size but without any tool) or find a horizontal/vertical line in my peripheral vision, then compare. It works well for me.

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:17:51 2019 No.3876652

>>3876650
Also I forgot to say that you should drop gestures before getting good at observation, because it just adds an unnecessary complexity to practice. Remember, even people with good observational drawing have difficulties with gesture(from what I've read and heard at least).

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 17:45:44 2019 No.3876687
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>>3875289
>I just going to keep gesturing cute boys on a blank void background for the rest of my life until I eventually kill myself before hitting 30,
What the fuck? Are you me?

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:06:36 2019 No.3876718

>>3867288
>join discord
>its just a bunch of trannies and dick suckers
>post on /ic/
>its just a bunch of crabs and trannies

the only fun places I draw with others are just random ass places like mobage discords or mmo forums, but thats like at most 2-3 people and the relative skill level is so low its hard to stay motivated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:45:41 2019 No.3876748 File: 61 KB, 1200x675, kh-3d-reaction.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876687 I'm your darkness

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 18:58:52 2019 No.3876766 >>3868589 At least you have a reason to die

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:03:01 2019 No.3876771 >>3876462 Perhaps you should git gud faggot. No one wants to lie to your face or be rude so give them a reason to be interested in your art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:09:45 2019 No.3876783 >>3876462 Either their twitter algo doesn't show your post on their TL or they don't feel liking your posts. It's tiring to give pity likes you know

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:17:46 2019 No.3876797 >>3876718 Have you tried the drawthread on /tg/ or /a/? I find them quite comfy personally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:33:56 2019 No.3876825 File: 654 KB, 764x572, RikuDDD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3876748 >Fellow cuteboy artist >and KH fan Let me be your friend. sp00py@protonmail.com

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 19:52:41 2019 No.3876859 >>3876797 /a/ is a giant discord waifu circlejerk with their own personal 4chan mod to ban anyone who insults them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 20:47:37 2019 No.3876969 >>3875289 drawing backgrounds is really comfy though anon! cuteboys need somewhere to be cute >>3876825 >the original husbando great choice desu not that fag but is it ok if i message you as well? it's hard to meet other /cm/ artists

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:08:29 2019 No.3877088 >>3876969 Go ahead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:46:18 2019 No.3877134 >>3875289 Imagine all the cute boys you'll discover by 31. Don't give up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:51:40 2019 No.3877137 File: 57 KB, 600x783, IMG_20181009_180259.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3875289 Imagine all the cute boys you'll discover by 31. Don't give up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:15:33 2019 No.3877162 >>3877137 Is that your work anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:37:16 2019 No.3877202 >>3877162 Nah just found it on Twitter

Anonymous Tue Apr 2 23:57:35 2019 No.3877221

How the fuck am I supposed to choose what to specialize in, I feel so on the fence about everything im learning and that it would be far more efficient to narrow the field to focus on making it in that area. But I like doing everything and nothing, I just like making shit and making other people happy.

I need an art director significant other....

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 10:30:08 2019 No.3877673 I'm wasting time lurking this whole shit place instead of drawing, I hate it

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 10:33:43 2019 No.3877677 >>3875289 >>3875586 cute!

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 11:11:20 2019 No.3877709
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>>3867288
>The perspective on that figure
How would you even lay out something like that? I mean starting from a blank page, I can't imagine how you ground the guy's feet or start the pose

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 16:12:41 2019 No.3878016
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I'm about to go full nsfw. I was doing porn before, but for last half of a year there was only sfw stuff and I gained a lot of followers that don't know that I'm doing porn. Should I turn my twitter nsfw or am I supposed to create second account?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 16:31:52 2019 No.3878052 >>3877221 Why did you start drawing? Are you good at drawing already?

Anonymous Wed Apr 3 18:00:06 2019 No.3878234

Fucked the ulnar nerve in my right hand and now I can barely turn a doorknob never mind hold a pencil. It's so frustrating because I was just starting to pick up commissions and get into a good rhythm. It feels like such a stupid thing to slink into a depression over but jeez.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 18:01:19 2019 No.3878239 >>3878016 That image is fucking devilish

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 19:09:16 2019 No.3878353 File: 381 KB, 960x540, turninggirlskaerun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3877677

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:40:13 2019 No.3878532 >>3876969 >>3878353 >no emails

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 21:47:23 2019 No.3878540 File: 245 KB, 477x459, kaeru2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3878532 Don't take it the wrong way anon, i just get anxious talking to other people outside the chins and i'm also boring as hell

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:13:58 2019 No.3878566 >>3878540 blog?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 22:25:03 2019 No.3878579 >missed another thread with cuteboy and husbando posting God damn it, not again.

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 00:51:47 2019 No.3878712
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>>3878532
>>3877088
sent
>>3877137
loose styles like this always look so nice and effortless. wish i could draw like that.
>>3878579
it's never too late for cuteboys, anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:11:33 2019 No.3878735 File: 521 KB, 1153x956, 22746.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3878712 >>3878579 >>3876969 I didn't think there's more cm artists lurking in ic. Wish I could hang out with you anons but I'm really awkward as fuck to talk to

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 01:36:53 2019 No.3878750 >>3878540 I'm nice and understanding. Offer is still there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 02:24:15 2019 No.3878781 >>3878735 lots of artists are pretty awkward lol. it's not a big deal at all

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 03:11:45 2019 No.3878820

Alright, gonna vent for the first time in a long time.
I know the thread is going to 404 some time soon, but I guess I'll copy and paste this shit in the new one. I just need to post it now.

I'm in my mid 20s. Been into drawing back and forth, starting in my early teens. I wasn't really guided when I was younger, but I really wished I sought my art teacher in high school, who really wanted people to flourish. But I was stuck doing shitty manga shit. Although my anatomy is shit, I feel like I have some confident lines going on at the very least, and know how to draw with my arm- I just need to be sent in the right direction. Getting older, I've had less time to dab into art- actually more like my motivation isn't constant and my hiatuses are just long. But I want to make a change with that. Bought some supplies, books (can't work with PDF's, I need the real thing), and bought a decent light to shine atop my desk.

Though, there's one huge fucking issue- I have bad anxiety getting into art. I think it's because being into art, you get a bunch of critics either warranted or unwarranted- I've been shoved left and right- seen the constructive and unconstructive- especially in /ic/. I joined the /ic/ discord so I can be surrounded by people trying to get good. But I haven't even posted anything aside from a shitty 3min sketch I did in February. My anxiety is terrible. I just know people are going to say shit, and I just gotta suck it up. My anxiety is so prominent regarding art that I sometimes I just can't start drawing or continue because I get so ashamed of myself to the point that I give up. Sometimes I unncessarily complicate things more than things really are and I get frustrated. I actually gave up for some time because I just felt really depressed about my work. I'm just one of those fragile people- at least regarding art. (1/2)

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 03:14:54 2019 No.3878822

>>3878820
(2/2)
I'm a traditional artist at heart. But last year for the first time, I drew digitally (in MSpaint) and realize I can go much further with it. But I'm not interested in pursuing it.

There are a bunch of pursuits I want to do with art. I want to get good with human anatomy, perspective, and environments, drawing in pencil, pen, and get back into pursuing oil painting. I used to oil paint, but it's been years. But at the very least I know the basics of working with oil paint since I was taught under a professor- one that actually paints on the side for a living. My endgame is to paint faces, capture their emotion, and put my stuff up in a gallery. Have a graphic novel finished. And draw people, environments, my imagination. One thing about me is that my imagination is vivid and all over the place- and drawing is the only way I can express it. I also want to help people around me who have a vision, but don't have to skill to express it.

The books I have I know will send me in the right place. I just wish I had someone to push me in real life. I've realized what flaws I have right now, and what I can manage with the references, books, and the tools I have. I just need to get working.

Gonna go to sleep now- planning to wake up at 7AM and start practicing. Been waking up at 1-2PM like a degen recently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 05:38:14 2019 No.3878984 File: 156 KB, 429x223, 1540684019273.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >only way to get good is to practice a shit ton

Anonymous Fri Apr 5 08:13:32 2019 No.3880234
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>>3870320
>I'm starting to believe that talent exists.

Goku had a power level of 10 in the pilaf saga.

It's not all about the grind, but what you consciously take from a grind. If you can't figure something out with the way that you're thinking then alter the way that you think.

Anonymous Sat Apr 6 00:31:30 2019 No.3881252

The thread is on sage so w/e
My art is impossible to pitch. I'll never make it.
I can only do art for myself and I'm attached to weird subject matter and an outdated drawing style so I'm screwed. I can't fit my art in any community. It doesn't even matter if I become god tier at drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 6 00:41:09 2019 No.3881261 >>3867311 >>3881252 This too. I practice painting sometimes but I don't like rendering stuff. I prefer flat colors and maybe cel shading but my shades are at like 25% opacity so really really faint. I like understated colors.

Anonymous Sat Apr 6 03:14:56 2019 No.3881410
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>>3874636
Obviously draw MORE Chika. I think the people want more Chika, I think you should only draw Chika-- and lots of her. Like Creayus with C.C., you with Chika. And her two sisters of course.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 6 04:34:00 2019 No.3881480 Bump

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