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currently using PS, but how long before i get comfy on this?

any tips how can migrate my PS workflow quick?

>> No.3837727

ya

>> No.3837734

>>3837726
CSP is really intuitive and easy to pickup, especially if you know PS. No tips needed, you'll get comfy in no time.

>> No.3838115

CSP > PS
Go ahead and switch, PS is an photo editor with digital drawing/painting capabilities tacked on as an afterthought.

>> No.3838121

>>3837726
>tips to swap oer workflow
yeah just do what you did in ps in csp dummy. if you get stuck with trying to find something like a ps thing google it.

>> No.3838125

What does CSP stand for?

>> No.3838129

>>3838125
Chad Software for Painting

>> No.3838131

>>3838125
c___ s____ p_____

>> No.3838137

>>3838125
I found it out. For anyone else that's wondering what it is, it's Clip Studio Paint.

>> No.3838138

>>3838137
Congratulations genius

>> No.3838142

>>3838138
>hurr u hav tü nUw aVry loKo

>> No.3838150

>>3837726
Would say a week or two depending on how much time you want to invest in. CSP is quite intuitive and is more than often only so complicated as you want it to be with its adjustability
A little tip: pressing <Tab> will minimize all the opened tool windows, press it again to open them up again. Wish i had known this earlier.
Press <shift>+<Tab> to cycle through what you want to see from the menus and window upper corner for even a little more drawing space.

>>3838125
Clip Studio Paint

>> No.3838153

>>3838125
>>3838137
based

>> No.3838172

>>3837726
PS vs CSP vs Sai (1 or 2), who wins?

>> No.3838179

>>3837726
Been using CSP over photoshop for about two years and a half now, and i'm mostly positive about it.
My main interest is drawing comics and line art, so that's a big factor in why i find CSP better for my needs.
It has good perspective tools/rulers, it has page flip that doesn't actually re-render the whole image, and a whole bunch of other small things that add up to a much better experience.

For more painting endeavors though, it lacks a brush engine as intricate, and the ability to tinker with colors through filters and menus is limited, you don't get stuff like Content Aware, which can be useful to create random, interesting textures.

So i'd say depends on what you do, in terms of art.
Even then though, i'd sooner give a look into other stuff like Sketchbook Pro, before going back to photoshop, given its pricetag.

>> No.3838180

>>3838172
CSP, sai fell behind in the period CSP went from being a purely manga thing that kinda worked to having the best pen and an okay brush engine alongside a mountain of artist focused tools. Photoshop is and has always only been good for photomanipulation and effects.

>> No.3838200

>>3837726
best digital comic tool on the market. there is nothing else so completely dedicated to comics, illustration, and animation.

>> No.3838201

>>3838172
Would go for CSP, best of all worlds and more than often you can get it discounted for like 15~20 bucks.
PS: When you are planing to work professionally in the field with a buisness backround. It simply is the industry standard. (Little tip: Photoshop CS2 is unofficially free, look it up)
Sai: When you want it simple and effective, and the fast workflow with that, while you are okay that it can do the the least of all three.
CSP: 80% of what PS can do art related. I would say weaker hardware acceleration than PS, while at the same time not so resource hungry, there are certain scenarios where one if better than the other. Got additional focus on creating comics. Can do picture per picture frame animations with the later versions.

>> No.3838210

>>3837726
is there a way to make csp's brushes feel less shitty? they're all so syrupy and weird compared to photoshop

>> No.3838216

>>3838210
there should be brush downloads from other users around the web, but going into brush settings has its advantages to customize to you preferred feel.

>> No.3838217

>>3838210
Hours upon hours reading the engrish manual and learning how to create and edit brushes. It's a pretty powerful engine that takes a lot of work to adjust. Download some off Clip Studio to see what they're set at and edit other brushes into them. Eventually you end up making all your own brushes on the fly.

>> No.3838982

>>3838210
Make it bigger.

>> No.3839049

>>3837726
>Still no liquify
bye

>> No.3839089

>>3839049
This is my biggest bummer, PS's liquify tool is quite simply fantastic

>> No.3839214

>>3838210
Fuck with settings, https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/, set a hotkey for turning on and off mix ground, turn down stabilizers. Not sure what you mean by syruppy. The only thing really missing for me with the brushes is lack of dual texture like photoshop but even then CSP has some features PS doesn't.

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3839231

>>3839049
>>3839089

>needing liquify to draw and paint

>> No.3839240

>>3839214

Just a heads up, they renamed it to "color mixing" in the latest update.

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3839252

>>3839240
thanks, had no idea there were two recent updates.
https://www.clipstudio.net/en/dl/release_note

really excited to try those gouache brushes as i tend to prefer and download those.

>> No.3839393

>>3839049
>>3839089
I don't even know what liquify does, sounds like a crutch for /beg/s

>> No.3839394

>>3838210
I just use the default brushes for everything. They work fine. People who complain about brushes are just making excuses about how shit they are at art

>> No.3839722

Does LazyNezumi work with CSP?

>> No.3839749

>>3839722
You can set stabilization in every brush on CSP, so you don't need Lazy Nezumi. I like having very little on my sketching/painting brushes and a good amount on inking ones.

>> No.3839755

>>3839722

It has a built in stabilizer and perspective tools.

>> No.3839773

>>3839749
>>3839755
Neat, thanks.

>> No.3841493

>>3837726
i pretty good. i use it for doing line art and it does the stuff well. im sure its great for coloring too specially on anime styles

>> No.3844103

>>3839755
The only thing would be fish eye perspective tools, which are in LN i think, but not in CSP.

>> No.3845069

>>3837726
Some people like this, some people like that. Most of the talks are memes though, it doesn't matter what you use. Give it a shot though. If you like it, use it.

>> No.3845073

>>3837726
Csp is way more accessible than Photoshop and you can customize the interface as you wish

>> No.3845076

>>3839393
It lets you push and pull parts of a painting, it's basicly the ultimate digital cheat

>> No.3845078

>>3844103
https://shop.dnhills.com/collections/clip-studio-paint-manga-studio-5/products/manga-studio-5-curvilinear-rulers

>> No.3845131

>>3845078
Thanks, will get it and give it a shot later!