Volen CK is back

[Anonymous No.3824405]

He's alive!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqV0WZPVehw

[Anonymous No.3824407]

>>3824405
holy shit
>hour long vid
tl;dw, has he made it?

[Anonymous No.3824409]

>>3824405
Nice. I didn't even follow him and I was worried he was fucking dead lol

[Anonymous No.3824413]

>1 year
>10 000 drawings
>27 drawings a day

[Anonymous No.3824429]

>>3824405

Holy crap, he's still garbage.

He is living proof that hard work means nothing. Its all talent. In a years time he probably going to post again telling people the truth, that he will always been bad even through he works hard.

[Anonymous No.3824433]

>he wasn't feeling the form

[Anonymous No.3824434]

>>3824405
>took 4 years to realise

[Anonymous No.3824437]

I'm just happy to see he isn't dead.

[Anonymous No.3824441]

>>3824405
>>3824433
>"and he's like "feel the form, feel the back" dude I can't even feel my own back
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.3824447]

>>3824429
>>3824433
>>3824434

[Anonymous No.3824448]

>>3824441
yeah laughed at that, still watching it it's really good.

[Anonymous No.3824449]

>>3824405
Still shit honestly.

[Anonymous No.3824451]

>>3824429
>>3824449
It’s only been a year and a half since he read the sticky. Better than 86% of ic

[Anonymous No.3824458]

Is he the male Rebecca Rand?

I’m glad we have living RECORDED proofs now that hard work in art means nothing if you do not have the natural talent for it.

[Anonymous No.3824459]

>>3824451

That because 99% of ic will not make it. Like saying an athlete who trained for 1 year and half is better than special olympics athletes.

I feel his approach is flawed. All he has is copying exercise, he should have switched to what FZD and Peter Han teaches.

FZD students work a year and get much better results.

[Anonymous No.3824464]

>>3824459
FZD has produced some shit, worse than what he has shown.

[Anonymous No.3824466]

who exactly is this guy?

[Anonymous No.3824470]

Unironically a well informed video that shows good progress through a year. I don't get yall be talking shit while drawing /beg/ tier anime manga garbage. Even though his "preferred" works are 3D rendered cliche' dead looking scenes, some of the study drawings and paintings definitely show huge improvement and understandings.
pipe the fuck down and go draw lol.

[Anonymous No.3824471]

>>3824466
A guy that's been trying to become a self-taught master since 2013.

[Anonymous No.3824472]

>>3824466
It's Volen CK

[Anonymous No.3824473]

>>3824437

[Anonymous No.3824476]

>>3824473
kek

[Anonymous No.3824479]

>>3824473

[Anonymous No.3824484]

>>3824470
Unironically this. It's too bad his aesthetic sense is so yucky

[Anonymous No.3824490]

>>3824413
It's not really that much, but he's probably counting doodles/gestures.

[Anonymous No.3824493]

>>3824484
He needs to study color and gesture like really badly.

All his work looks dull and lifeless. His colors are muddy and his figure stiff.

[Anonymous No.3824510]

>>3824493
?? He’s been doing exactly that for a year and a half

[Anonymous No.3824512]

>>3824429
>>3824449
>>3824458
>>3824484
>>3824493
post your work

[Anonymous No.3824526]

>>3824512
You spend a year off the Internet and the first place you come back to is bloody /ic/. Git gud, Volen.

[Anonymous No.3824553]

>>3824512

[Anonymous No.3824576]

>>3824405
Came here to post this, the legend is true.

[containercore !o3a0NktvbA No.3824580]

>>3824429
Talent is a component of it, but it really just shows the ineffectiveness of grinding.

[Anonymous No.3824594]

>>3824580
wew you shouldn't be namefagging with posts like that ahahaha are you mad that he's better than you

[containercore !o3a0NktvbA No.3824600]

>>3824594
I started namefagging because I got tired of people telling me to post my work. Keep spending your time grinding out those boxes and gestures if you like, though.

[Anonymous No.3824602]

>>3824600
pyw

[Anonymous No.3824603]

>>3824600
Oh good, now I can just directly look up your deviantart and tell you that your work is shit.

[Anonymous No.3824606]

>>3824576
>Came here to post this
Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.3824609]

>>3824458
If they're both single they'd make the cutest couple oh my god. 2 blokes who spent over a year with a training regime only to not get as good as they thought.

[Anonymous No.3824612]

>>3824606
Suck my dick nigger.

[Anonymous No.3824622]

>>3824612

Cuff my balls, junior.

[Anonymous No.3824624]

>>3824612
Shut the fuck up nigger, you should know better than to talk back. Came here to post this.

[Anonymous No.3824632]

friends, please, we don't have to fight each other, we can make it together, in harmony, love and peace!

[containercore !o3a0NktvbA No.3824641]

>>3824602
Ok.

>>3824603
That's what I said.

[Anonymous No.3824643]

>>3824641
Haven't you been here for years? I mean a good while? I think you were in LAS too. Is this seriously the best you've got?

How pathetic. I'll give you that you posted your work, but honestly that's some weak shit my dude.

[Anonymous No.3824645]

>>3824641
You might want to type an extra # and use a secure tripcode if you care about it, cause an anon here was able to crack unsecure tripcodes within a few minutes.

[containercore !o3a0NktvbA No.3824647]

>>3824643
I've been posting regularly since 2011, but I've been here on and off since 2006. But I'm not here to prove that my work is any good, I only pointed out that the amount improvement in the OP video does not seem equal to the amount of work that was put in (10, 000 drawings).

[Anonymous No.3824649]

>>3824647
>2006

[Anonymous No.3824699]

It's tiem to MAKE /IC/ GREAT AGAIN
THE SIGN FROM ABOVE
LOOMIS BLESS US ALL

[Anonymous No.3824751]

>>3824641
neat

[Anonymous No.3824812]

tl;dw, did he actually draw anything or just wasted entire year making "studies" and copying shit?

[Anonymous No.3824824]

>>3824405
>i never understood the reason for figure drawing because there are Daz, 3d, model so you could just literally cut and paste
granted that he changed his mind but how can any beginner even unironically think this

[Anonymous No.3824838]

>>3824812
He spent an entire year doing 6000+ studies, everything was done from reference

[Anonymous No.3824855]

>>3824838

[Anonymous No.3824859]

>>3824405
i cant tell if his recent progress fills me with hope or despair

[Anonymous No.3824880]

>>3824859
Another's progress is not your progress

[Anonymous No.3824885]

>>3824838
So that’s how you get good?

[Anonymous No.3824888]

>>3824641
wew that's shit

[Anonymous No.3825023]

>>3824405
head like a fucking orange

[Anonymous No.3825053]

>>3824512

[Anonymous No.3825178]

>>3824405
>i disappear when i notice something massive that i haven't been working on but is so fundamental
what a retard

[Anonymous No.3825184]

>>3825178
He’s a genius you mean. There’s no point in more criticism if you already know what to work on.

[Anonymous No.3825213]

>>3825053
bro, i saw this like a year ago

[Anonymous No.3825218]

>>3825213
Imagine how far anon has gotten now after 6000 studies

[Anonymous No.3825250]

>>3825184
have fun never making it because you only get feedback once every few years. this is an unhealthy way to improve, his work and attitude should show it

[Anonymous No.3825370]

>>3824632

[Anonymous No.3825405]

>>3824405
I'm glad he's ok and not dead like they said on instagram.
As for his 'progress'... I don't think he's progressed very well, especially not as much as you'd expect for someone after six years of study. Some of the post-apocalyptic stuff looks decent, but overall there's too much mindless photocopying and using industry specific techniques (photobashing, matte painting, etc.) without the fundamentals to back it up.

[Anonymous No.3825654]

>>3824407
jesus christ no lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqV0WZPVehw&t=28m40s

>>3824429
no, he's an idiot /beg/ stuck on mount stupid because he has no self-awareness.

[Anonymous No.3825660]

>>3825654
>drawing every day and no social media for a year
How did he do it? You would for sure go crazy.

[Anonymous No.3825711]

This dude's discipline is commendable, and all you pieces of shit can do is shit on him? No wonder none of you will ever make it.

[Anonymous No.3825721]

>>3824405
Who?

[Anonymous No.3825852]

>>3825721
Volen CK

[Anonymous No.3826080]

If I draw 10,000 Loomis heads, will I make it?

[Anonymous No.3826082]

>>3826080
You will be good at Loomis heads.

[Anonymous No.3826086]

>>3826080
You will become very good at drawing Loomis heads.

[Anonymous No.3826204]

>>3825852
And why should i care?

[Anonymous No.3826219]

>>3826080
10,000 is not a lot and you won't make it

[Anonymous No.3826241]

>>3826204
There's no reason for you to care, you've already outted yourself as a cunt

[Anonymous No.3826253]

>>3826241
Sorry for not knowing and not caring about your boyfriend

[Anonymous No.3826264]

>>3824405
>"one of the first times that I was starting to think abou volume"
>uploaded a video 2 years ago about having done art for 4 years daily

[Anonymous No.3826267]

>>3826264
You can't grasp form overnight anon. Maybe I'm a brainlet but there are days in which I grasp it worse than others

[Anonymous No.3827129]

>>3825711
>This dude's discipline is commendable

>guy bashes his head against a wall for six years
>wow such discipline!

[Anonymous No.3827130]

>>3827129
Yes. It really is.

[Anonymous No.3827168]

>>3827129
>>bashes his head against a wall for six years
lmao, can't wait to see what you're like after 6 years

[Anonymous No.3827184]

>>3827168
I can't wait either, anon. I'm already selling art and will increase my prices over time. can you or volen say as much?

[Anonymous No.3827189]

>>3827184
If money is the only thing you value out of art then I guess not

[Anonymous No.3827191]

>>3827184
Post your actual art if you're that cocky, faggot. People like Sakimichan make way more.

[Anonymous No.3827199]

>>3827189
>being this salty
>believing you can't make money off the things you like to do

[Anonymous No.3827219]

>>3827191
lol post my art so you can make a shitty redline over it to feel better about the fact that nobody wants to buy your shit? I don't care what sakimichan makes because 1) we're not competing for the same customers and 2) I'm not a crab like you who spends more time worrying what others are doing instead of making work.

stay salty!

[Anonymous No.3827225]

>>3827219
And I'm not competing with you either lol. I don't care how much you make.
>I'm not a crab like you who spends more time worrying what others are doing instead of making work.
Uh huh, which is why you're here shitting on the guy.

[Anonymous No.3827260]

>>3824405
this should be on the sticky

[Anonymous No.3827651]

>>3826267
Okay, that's BS. That's like the first thing you learn even without any tutorials. It's arguable the most important thing. Without form all the other shit doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.3827808]

He's a perfect example of someone who works hard but not smart.

[Anonymous No.3827892]

>>3827808
>works hard
Procrastinates hard.

[Anonymous No.3828232]

>>3827651
another anon here. It took me years before Ive learned to feel the forms and even now I have some problems. Not everybody is as healthy

[Anonymous No.3828237]

>>3828232
In the video he said it was his first time _thinking_ about form when drawing. Completely different from understanding/feeling the form.

[Anonymous No.3828695]

>>3828237
Wow, it took him 6 years for that. Dude really needs to study up on what to study.

[Anonymous No.3828699]

>>3827225
>>3827189
>>3827191
ngmi

[Anonymous No.3829064]

>>3824405
is he a NEET?
living off savings?

what's the story?

[Anonymous No.3829069]

>>3829064
He worked, saved up cash, trained at art, couldn't get hired with his art in time before running out of cash, went back to work. Still studying, but also working because needs more cash.

[Anonymous No.3829079]

>>3829069
>couldn't get hired with his art in time before running out of cash
Volen has been trying for six years and still can't get hired. Algenpfleger went from zero to pro in just over a year

gee, i wonder why...

[Anonymous No.3829186]

>>3829079.
Algenpfleger didn't start from 'zero'. His starting point was miles ahead of where Volen started from.

Volen was a literal /beg/ that never touched a pencil past childhood, Algenpfleger was your standard art fag who doodled in his free time for years.

[Anonymous No.3829373]

>>3829186
algen's earliest paintings and sketches are alot worse than what volen has put up. i've followed both of them online and watched their progress. the fact that volen still can't make work good enough to get him a job or commission after six fucking years is proof that talent is real.

[Anonymous No.3829374]

>>3829373
>pic related
Better than 62% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.3829376]

>>3829373
Or he's an idiot.

[Anonymous No.3829382]

>>3829373
did you actually look at volen's early work or are you just shitting me?

[Anonymous No.3829391]

>>3829382
Better than .97% of /ic/

[Anonymous No.3829396]

>>3829382
algen was doing work on the same level when he started anon. i don't see what your point is.

[Anonymous No.3829404]

>>3829396
you must be blind, algen was ahead of volen by miles. especially if you consider the fact that volen only did studies and algen posted a ton of stuff from imagination.

talent exists but using these two guys as an example is retarded. volen never drew in his life and stumbled around randomly only doing studies like a retard. he drew about ~5.5hours/day for the first year and then progressively less and less(until recently).

algen drew 12hours/day for a straight year he also had a basic art background since he did it as a hobby as a kid, posted on CA which was the best art community you can find, getting critique from industry pros.

you really can't compare these two, since they come from different environments. if you want to find out if talent exists rather compare the people on CA. there's like ~10 noteworthy sketchbooks of people going from scrubs to getting jobs in the industry.

[Anonymous No.3830087]

>>3824641
This is good stuff man, you really got the crabs snipping.

[Anonymous No.3830304]

>>3829404
which CA skbooks?

[Anonymous No.3830855]

Why does ic think you get to craig mullins level just because you grind for a year? How fucking retarded are all of you? Where the fuck did the idea even come from in the first place that you're supposed to show amazing progress in just a year?

[Anonymous No.3830857]

>>3829396

is that wojak? kek

[Anonymous No.3831844]

>>3830855
It's possible to show amazing progress in just a year with the right resources and discipline. Not craig mullins level of course. But certainly better than volen ck's 6 years of progress.

[Anonymous No.3831846]

>>3830855
FZD literally started the one year meme and drawing 16 hours a day. Deviantart does have 1 year progression pics too. Other than that I do think you can make a great deal of progress in a year that would seem quite unexpected. Like that one Atelier that has you focusing on Bargue plates, measurements, rendering for just one whole year before moving on to busts and painting the next year.

[Anonymous No.3831881]

>>3830855
Because everyone here is lazy and doesn't draw, so they need to tell themselves they could pull it off in a year, if they really tried.

[Anonymous No.3832028]

So guys, i think we are all agree to said he didn't make it, and he's progress are very low.

But what's the good way to progress alone in art ?

[Anonymous No.3832197]

>>3832028
Firstly, find good learning resources. Not sure what Volen used but him saying that it's his first time thinking in basic forms tells me that his learning materials are awful. He also just subscribed to NMA. Should have done that ages ago.

[Anonymous No.3832488]

>>3830304
here u go

[Anonymous No.3832662]

>>3830855
people usually make the greatest improvements in the first year of learning a new skill. after that you're building on the fundamentals and developing you're own technique/style.

>>3832028
don't do what he's doing which is: nonstop photo studies, using advanced techniques (matte painting, photobashing, etc.) before he learned fundamentals, drawing over 3D models instead of learning construction.

grind on construction techniques and use reference to correct your mistakes. you should work 60% from imagination and 40% from reference. you have to train your mind to see forms and mold them in your mind. it is very difficult but it keep going. drawing from life helps a lot too.

[Anonymous No.3832765]

>>3831844
>6 years of progress.
wait it is only by the fifth year he realize figure drawing is important and sub to NMA?

[Anonymous No.3832883]

>>3832765
>wait it is only by the fifth year he realize figure drawing is important and sub to NMA
despite what normies and STEM-fags believe, you actually need to be somewhat intelligent to be a good artist. the "art is about feelings" bullshit only happened to make it 'accessible' to retards who can't draw a person with decent accuracy to save their lives. Up to the early 1950's it was a serious career choice and art schools cared about their reputations and took pride in teaching.

[Anonymous No.3832903]

>>3832488
What's the timespan for these progress pics? how many years?

[Anonymous No.3833420]

>>3832903
average around 2.5 years. some of them weren't practicing exactly every day all day all the time.

[Anonymous No.3833430]

>>3833420
insane gains