/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3807665]

digital art is soulless

[Anonymous No.3807669]

>>3807665
ilya kuvshinov is soulless

[Anonymous No.3807671]

this world is soulless

[Anonymous No.3807676]

>>3807665
Nobody cares, it's still the future.

[Anonymous No.3807685]

>>3807665
Having or showing soul is not mandatory or even relevant.

[Anonymous No.3807695]

>>3807665
>digital art is soulless
>posts soulful art
okay, i guess...

[Anonymous No.3807720]

u must be 13. janitor pls ban this scrub

[Anonymous No.3807724]

>>3807665
go work on art instead of complaining about other peoples art, you might become decent and less salty

[Anonymous No.3807802]

this >>3807720
Why did you make this retarded thread, OP?

[Anonymous No.3807926]

>>3807665
>Pick worst example ever.
Ilya Kushinov is trash

[Anonymous No.3807931]

>>3807665
Souls don't exist Anon, are you religious or something?

[Anonymous No.3807933]

>>3807676
>it's still the future.
how long is it going to be "the future"? Is it "the future" right now? when do we reach this "future"?

oh wait, never no and never

[Anonymous No.3808589]

>>3807933
The sperging of a tradfag.

[Anonymous No.3808703]

>>3807665
only if you use generic smooth brushes and pussy ass rendering

[Anonymous No.3808705]

>>3807933
>how long is it going to be "the future"? Is it "the future" right now? when do we reach this "future"?
now its yesterday future, tomorrow will be today's future

[Anonymous No.3808709]

>>3807931
Soulless means "Lacking sensitivity or the capacity for deep feeling" semantically ignorant returd.

[Anonymous No.3808787]

>>3807695
It's literally the same angle of head with a different expression. Dude he just copy pastes a face on a model. Like not even the chin is pushed down because her mouth is open. also the eyes are seen from below but her head isn't tilting upwards.

[Anonymous No.3808802]

>>3808709
so basically it means "I don't like it 'casue I am jealous of the artist's success." right Anon?

[Anonymous No.3808808]

>>3807665
disagree

[Anonymous No.3808819]

>>3807665
Imagine being so stupid you don't realize you are looking at art displayed on a digital monitor and being so impressed by that art you don't think it can be reproduced on a machine.

[Anonymous No.3808847]

>>3807665
And then a hero comes along...

[Anonymous No.3808855]

no

[Anonymous No.3808856]

it isn't

[Anonymous No.3808858]

>>3807665
pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.3808863]

>>3808847
master..

[Anonymous No.3808891]

>>3808808
>animegame fanart

[Anonymous No.3808925]

>>3808808
Pic unrelated, i hope

[Anonymous No.3808933]

>>3808891
>abrahamic fairytale fanart

[Anonymous No.3810434]

It is, digital is an approximation, it's close enough to fool you but it's always an inferior product. We trade quality for convenience.

[Anonymous No.3810436]

There's a lot of soulless traditional are like airbrush which I don't have examples.

[Anonymous No.3810438]

In digital art even when they try to emulate traditional techniques, there's always something missing.

[Anonymous No.3810445]

Digital, it's almost there.

[Anonymous No.3810457]

>>3808808
thanks for sharing, i love it

[Anonymous No.3810542]

>>3810438
Fucking luv that 70’s pulp illustration gouache style

[Anonymous No.3810555]

>>3810436
>Most soulless trad example he could find has more soul than any digital art ever created

[Anonymous No.3810556]

>>3810542
I wish there were a better term for it and that it was easier to find

[Anonymous No.3811034]

>>3810438
>>3810445
Something about the brush strokes always gives it that lifeless look that digital tends to have. Ii think the brushes are too consistent and "perfect". Not to mention the actual art style gives it away as a modern piece.

[Anonymous No.3811042]

>>3808855
This is nice but would look nicer if it were traditional.

[Anonymous No.3811076]

>>3808802
fucking hate when people call art soulless, be it music or illustrations. usually used as a lame way of discrediting work without actually explaining what it is you find unappealing.

[Anonymous No.3811106]

>>3807933
The anon you responded too, look i started art with watercolor and brushes, was amazing and digital art can never give you feeling of wetting your brush outside in a warm spring day and paint your nice textured thick watercolor paper with quality, soft color pans. All the metallic, wooden equipment and being in a quiet place in nature painting the scenery was an amazing experience. But let's face it, you will never be succesful with traditional art, the big money lays in digital art, period.

[Anonymous No.3811129]

Digital art has a lot of potential, beyond the control paint shit.
Look up Andrey Surnov for instance

[Anonymous No.3811835]

How many of you retards say this idiocy just because you cant afford a good pc and a wacom tablet?

Feels good to be rich :)

[Anonymous No.3811923]

sorry anons, but i dont want to stain myself with paint, gonna stay on tablet

[Anonymous No.3811938]

>>3811835
>being able to afford a pc and tablet makes you rich
t. third world shitter

[Anonymous No.3812060]

>>3811938
scathing commentary on tradfags

[Anonymous No.3812326]

>>3811835
>How many of you retards say this idiocy just because you cant afford a good pc and a wacom tablet?
>Feels good to be rich :)

I have these things but can't imagine being this much of a prick :)

Anyway this thread is dumb, the medium doesn't determine the level of souls the art has obtained.

[Anonymous No.3815117]

>>3807665
nah

[Anonymous No.3817956]

Digital art is just a medium of art. Personally I learn to paint and colors for traditional painting from doing lots of digital art. Plus digital art is budget friendly medium for many people, as paints are ridiculously expensive for quality.

[Anonymous No.3817999]

>>3811938
Pigskin dog fucking degenerate

[Anonymous No.3818004]

>>3808855
Only soulful digital piece itt but still btfo by the trad pieces. Digital is still relatively young tho, I hope it grows out of this soulless concept art/illustration + photobash bubble and people actually start making art with it.

[Anonymous No.3818171]

>>3818004
See, the only good digital art looks like it was made traditionally.

[Anonymous No.3818187]

Digital art is still very new. Which artists are just trending and which will genuinely make history (= have soul) haven't been sorted out yet, when that sorting has been made already for traditionnal art. There is plenty of souless traditional paintings, they just have been forgotten because it's shit. With time only soulful digital art will remain.

[Anonymous No.3818207]

>>3807665
wish tradfags would just end themselves already if they are so constantly assblasted that they cant keep it to themselves anymore.
you are detestable. someone who truly appreciates art doesnt give a damn about ilyas or photobashers or whatever. theres a real process to digital art. there are things to digital art that are different and unique to it, as there are to traditional. both are such fantastic ways to make art. we get so much amazing work in this world from both sources. but you are a childish little weasle who doesnt care to look behind his own misconceptions. you dont care to learn something about a topic that youve already decided to hate. thats what makes you truly cancerous and entirely anti-art. you are pretentious, full of shit and the definition of dunning-krueger. shitty trad artists who think they have some unearned sense of superiority over people who have spent years working and think they share a seat on some "throne" next to the actual master trad painters. you are nothing, to either side. the rest of the artist world is busy trying out new techniques, technology, paints.. while you are sitting in your room painting the same still life for the thirtieth time. you are the most reductive trash the art world has ever produced. even worse than ilya and his ilk.

[Anonymous No.3818230]

Would traditional art that looks digital be considered soul or soulless? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3aplJ_rR4c&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous No.3818231]

>>3818207
1. Stop being triggered, being this assblasted over nothing is embarrassing not just for you but everyone around you.
2. Digital art is still in it's infancy so it has tons of room to grow, however, as it is currently, there is not much truly good digital work being produced. 99.99% of it is bland and generic shit like a random photobashed environment or some character holding a staff with some oriental shit tacked on. There is no real depth of emotion to it and the vast majority of it is extremely shallow. Now that is not to say that digital art will always be this way, it will definitely grow and I look forward to seeing what the new masters of the medium will come up with. As it stands though, there really isn't anyone producing digital art at a truly high level. You have technical masters like Ruan but most of his stuff is just bland shit like a hot chick in skimpy clothing, an environment with a character in the foreground, some random character with a sword/gun/weapon/etc. It's like they're posing action figures and coming up with cool scenarios but unable to imbue their works with raw emotion or soul. So traditional is unquestionably superior at the moment. You can't post even one digital piece that could rightfully be considered a masterpiece so it's only natural for people to be a little weary about digital as opposed to traditional art.

[Anonymous No.3818236]

>>3818230
Here's something more recent from this artist. I'm not into the style but I still think she's very skilled to be able to do this all traditionally.

[Anonymous No.3818239]

>>3807665
>insert any art here is soulless.
just stfu my man

[Anonymous No.3818240]

>>3818231
>there is no depth or emotion to it
its not everyone elses fault that you are an autist, anon
>im not triggered, youre triggered, because you wrote a lot of meanie words
try harder, autist

also again. youre talking as if you have any sort of professional authority. you dont. you are an autist on a chinese cartoon website.
you clearly dont really look into the world of digital art. you clearly dont give a shit. you are set out to hate it and so you continue to do so. keep shitting yourself, tradfag. the rest of the world moves on

[Anonymous No.3818252]

>>3818240
Please post one good digital piece and you'll BTFO me. You can't tho.

[Anonymous No.3818257]

>>3818230
>looks like it has more soul than digital what is this magic

[Anonymous No.3818264]

>>3818252
are you an actual autist?
no matter what i post, you will reject it. because you think your personal subjective feelings are the arbiter of the definition of "masterpiece"
i could throw hundreds of amazing pieces at you and you would say you dont feel anything. because you are an empty robot human. you cling to your paints and brushes like a child, because at least you can pretend that you are making something unique. even though every traditional artist has done it before. i wont play your retarded game.

[Anonymous No.3818277]

>>3818264
>i could throw hundreds of amazing pieces at you
Stop projecting random shit and post a piece. The rest of /ic/ will be able to decide if it's good or not as well, it's not like I'll be the only one looking at it. It's really that simple, you're saying there's hundreds of masterpiece level digital pieces and yet you're too afraid to post one, instead making up excuses. If I make fun of an actual digital masterpiece then I'll look like a retard anyways.

[Anonymous No.3818278]

>>3818264
t. retard too lazy to learn real art

[Anonymous No.3818280]

>>3818264
Why do you cope this hard?

[Anonymous No.3818283]

>>3818278
>my mom says my 60 still lives are great youre all just fake artists XD

>>3818277
you dont even understand the point im making
this thread is full of tradfags who already blindly agree with you. you want to sit in an echochamber and repeat your own shit until it comes out of your ears. ill post some work for the few people here who actually want to think about it. but you dont care anyways.
also... just to remind you, /ic/ isnt much of an amazing judge in general if youve looked into the art threads recently.

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[Anonymous No.3818289]

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[Anonymous No.3818294]

[Anonymous No.3818296]

>>3818283
wow another digital painting that looks like every other

[Anonymous No.3818298]

inb4
>i dont like any of these XD you failed my test!!! im the superior art genius

because the thing youre missing is that its not a competition which medium is better for most artists
just for dumb autists like you lmao
and even if this is great work, you will never acknowledge it because you dont want to let it into your mind to even think about it .

[Anonymous No.3818310]

>>3818283
>>3818284
>>3818285
>>3818287
>>3818292
>>3818294
Soulless
>>3818289
Soul
>>3818298
My dude stop being so defensive. You are literally posting concept art, promotional art. Do these really inspire emotion in you? Like this >>3818294 what emotion does this inspire within you? It's not even an actual finished piece, it's just exploring ideas. Half the stuff you posted is what I already complained about, (random chick in skimpy clothing, some static character holding a knife, some character in the foreground staring at an environment, etc) Do you really consider these to be masterpieces? If so that's embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.3818311]

>>3818298
it's a niche
there is no universally acclaimed digital masterpiece

[Anonymous No.3818314]

>>3818310
the amount of arrogance you have is actually astonishing. if you were someone who respected the craft that is art, you would not be talking like the absolute king of dunning-kruegers right now. lmao

[Anonymous No.3818318]

>>3818311
yeah but andy warhols shit is universally seen as masterful so what does that standard even mean
you are pathetic

[Anonymous No.3818322]

>>3818314
Hi pot.

[Anonymous No.3818329]

>>3818314
>the amount of arrogance you have is actually astonishing.
I mean feel free to educate me. All you're doing is hurling insults while reiterating that you're right, at least I'm trying to explain myself. desu I think the main difference in our views is that you view art as a "craft" whereas I care about what it is that the art is actually supposed to be expressing. It is not enough for a piece to be fundamentally sound or well executed technically, it actually has to say something or present some sort of emotion. The stuff you posted works as "craft" as in the fundamentals are there but again, it's soulless and devoid of emotion. Feel free to explain to me what something like this >>3818294 >>3818287 >>3818284 actually makes you feel. I'm genuinely asking because I don't really see anything being expressed here.

[Anonymous No.3818345]

>>3818207
Yeah but how do you consider the fact that Art Market has no real value for digital/reproductible pieces and will probably never acquire a place until it's mixed with another medium ?

[Anonymous No.3818370]

Tradfags who can't draw a straightline trying to cling to it for validation because they can't afford tablets lol

[Anonymous No.3819769]

>>3811835
>rich
A med wacom tablet is literally 200 bucks, I specifically never touched oils because THAT shit is expensive.

I bought a small set of pastels I never use because it feels like I'm painting with 20€ bills. Fuck traditional man, I do drawing studies on traditional, but fuck ever trying to paint / color that shit.

[Anonymous No.3820640]

>>3808855
this is my phones wallpaper. always assumed it was traditional, will have to change it now.

[Anonymous No.3820955]

Digital paint strokes are too even and identical. Most don't even use texturing to add some organics and break up monotony. However, most artists will only ever use digital because
>it's easier to use
>cheaper
>layering and ctrl + z
It will only ever stop just being a pipeline tool when artists put in the extra effort required to put the soul back into the art that isn't inherently there due to the medium. As of now, digital is mostly just good for porn (no one will pay attention to anything but the pussy and ass), production pipeline shit like concept art, and shitting pieces out for patreon bux.

[Anonymous No.3820964]

>>3820955
ahhhhhh soul
REAL ART
HIGH ART

[Anonymous No.3821052]

>>3818207
based and redpilled.

[Anonymous No.3821058]

>>3820955
saying digital is not real art is like saying only propeller planes are real planes you are close minded and ignorant.

digital art makes things easier and helps people to improve quicker, the results are of the exact same worth as traditional art

[Anonymous No.3821110]

>>3820964
>>3821058
Where did I say digital wasn't art? Most of what I said was referring to the general sterile look of digital art.

[Anonymous No.3821190]

>>3811034
>doesn't know how to use dual brush: the post

[Anonymous No.3821348]

>>3818310
>>3818289
why is this more soulful than the other pic your calm to be "soulless"?

[Anonymous No.3821543]

>>3818289
kino