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Tell me /ic/, why are Russians so good at drawing? What is it about the slavs that churns out great artists? What are their secrets

>> No.3794523

Their art schools haven't been corrupted.

>> No.3794559

Based on my very limited understanding, I'll guess this:

Ironically, communist countries, in spite of supposedly being revolutionary, have a streak of social and artistic conservatism in them, so they tend to cling to traditional modes of art, which means their artists are strongly trained in the traditional art skills, in a way that many modern western artists are not.

Unfortunately, that same conservative streak tends to limit the creativity and imagination that the artists display, so you end up with a lot of technically competent, but dull pieces.

You see a similar thing with post-communist Chinese art.

The exception that I have noticed is Soviet Animated films. They're much more experimental, and, dare I say it, artistic, than most western animations, probably because they didn't have to worry about box-office profits like western filmmakers do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8rVp9rwaS0

>> No.3794561

>>3794520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-PfLRyvxI

>> No.3794573

>>3794520
>>3794523
somebody post the instagram of that nu-nazi russian girl who drinks piss and wants to fuck her brother

>> No.3794584

>>3794520
In colder regions, people will often turn to the arts, because the alternative is once the weather goes below freezing and no one wants to go out, you'll go crazy just sitting around the house.

Russia is merely one example of many "Too cold today; gonna make art" nations. See also all of Scandinavia, The Pacific northwest, England, and Japan.

>> No.3794620

>>3794584
And... Italy? Perhaps the country most famous for its art?

>> No.3794622

>>3794620

Exception that proves the rule, geography dictates art. That was a product of pre-modern trade being heavily Mediterranean and therefore being an easily accessible place to congregate

Once Mediterranean trade was less relevant and the rest of the world took over both trade and the baseline societal level of art production, Italy predictably slipped into the background, while countries and parts of countries with a geographical reason to bust ass making art for some portion of the year predictably did exactly that.

>> No.3794625

>>3794573
Big if true.

>> No.3794790

I always found it weird that even stupid shit like gay anime fanart that is most expressive, has unique style and is simultaneously pleasant too look at usually turns out to be made by Russians or Ukrainians.
I guess their culture gives them some kind of advantage.

>> No.3794816

I’m half Russian/Ukrainian slav. I have to say for me it’s simply a genetic talent to accurately see & envision light and proportion. I don’t even do art right now bc ive been busy with software, soon though.

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3794980

Repin is fucking amazing

>> No.3794993

>>3794520
Always thought russian art was overrated as fuck

>> No.3795046

>>3794520
Not this shit again. Russians aint good or better than others, quit the cherrypicking of old painters.

>> No.3795456
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3795456

I'd guess it has to do with russians realizing there are so few jobs in the arts that the only ones who get a chance to go to art schools are the ones with natural talent, vs Americans supporting everyone and anyone who doodles in class to go into art.

In Asian cultures (china/ korea.etc) parents actively discourage their kids from drawing because they know there is almost no money in art unless you are at the top of your craft.

>> No.3795472

>>3794559
Everything's correct
t. cyka

>> No.3795844
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>>3794584
Lol.
The time and energy spent to keep warm and fed surely eats into your time at an easel. Not to mention racing against the sun to see it.

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>>3794523
>tfw russian art education is so pure that even if you study design in university you learn nothing but traditional drawing and painting

>> No.3795874

>>3795456
>Americans support anyone who doodles
Wow I wish this was true. I'd be staring my art education at age 8 and not age 22. I can't even draw a box.

>> No.3795883

>>3795844

is that your work anon

>> No.3795894
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>>3794520
>why are Russians so good at drawing?
Because they haven't forgotten that art is important to society. Nobody values art in America. All the standards were thrown out in the 70s and now art just another consumable thing to be mass produced. That's why dog portraits and calarts-looking garbage will get you thousands of followers. That's why colleges teach you to draw 'your feelings' instead of the fundamentals. Nobody wants to think anymore, they just want to be spoon fed entertainment. Academic art is too slow for that purpose.

>> No.3795986

>>3795867
Without that 'corruption' you wouldn't be able to use that reaction image

>> No.3796086

>>3795472
Thank you. I was piecing it together from scraps of information and observation. I have not disappointed my slavic ancestors.

>> No.3796135

>>3795883
Roberto Ferri.
Living master in Italy.