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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Previous Thread >>>>3741154

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:
1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead
2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller
3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

REMEMBER, if you've just started out you work will not be good, it doesn't need to be, just get in to the swing of actually drawing, and learning how to study. Most of all, enjoy it.

"Success is no accident. It is hard work, perseverance, learning, studying, sacrifice and most of all, love of what you are doing or learning to do."

>> No.3749274

>>3749272
Join this thread
>>3744900

>> No.3749275
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3749275

>>3749272
>Emma Watson

Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng!

>> No.3749278
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>>3749272
Did this study of a lady face, idk why it turned out so bad. Any tips?

>> No.3749281

>>3749272
>not even linking to the currently active /beg/ thread.
You trolls are just lazy.

>> No.3749314

wtf is goin on?

>> No.3749323

>>3749314
Lazy mods not doing their job.

>> No.3749326

>>3749323
Not lazy, but mods are on /gif/ most at the time.

>> No.3749328
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3749328

Need pointers. Still cleaning up. Oil on canvas

>> No.3749466

>>3749328
that forehead sticks out too much
hair/beard left to the ear are messed up
other than that looks good but kinda bland - >>3749457
>>3749340

>> No.3749484
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>>3749272
>>3749272

>> No.3749493
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3749493

Made the hand from imagination, actually started to stick since I draw my hand so often -- gives me confidence in eventually improving my imagination :)

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3749515

Strange question but directed at digital illustrators/fine arts types, what would you say are the best brush sizes to use for a piece? I have this constant issue where I can't find a good combination of sizes so I have a small brush for fine details and a thicker brush for major linework without it looking too thick, I can't seem to get that balance and I figure this would be the best place to ask so any help, online tutorials, images, anything to help me with this issue so I can get closer to pic related would be absolutely invaluable to me and much appreciated.

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>>3749272
>twf shoops and deepfakes have completely depersonalized celebrities so you don't even know if you're fapping to the actual person and not a frankenstein's creature made in photoshop
certified nudes when

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Been in a funk so drawing sum tidders.

>> No.3749578

What's a good resource for 'today I wanna draw a fuckton of hands?' The sticky has a dozen links I just need one

>> No.3749579

>>3749578
get spoonfed fucktard.

https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice

>> No.3749586

>>3749579
you are a good person and should feel good

>> No.3749599

>>3749515
show me your art

>> No.3749601

>>3749534
Low effort "practice"
You can do better than that
Instead of having fun with titties how about you work on how the neck, shoulders and the head look in relation to titties
Titties themselves are soft balls of fat, once you get how they mold over ribcage you are fine, but your heads are all fucked and your necks are basically a symbol

>> No.3749620

>>3749601
>scare quotes around "practice"
Don't put words in his mouth. No need to crawl up his ass because he drew titties.

>> No.3749633

>>3749620
>>3749601
Hey, my work. He was helpful, though it was intentionally low effort to unwind from photo studies kicking my ass and the faces are anime shit cuz I didnt want to draw them properly, I still appreciate the feedback and I do need to work on the chest/neck area a lot, I always draw the sternum too short and the clavicle too high up.

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>>3749599

>> No.3750402
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3750402

is 'keys to drawing' the place to be?

>> No.3750413
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3750413

i started grinding hands guys

>> No.3751011
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So anyways, have a butt

>> No.3751023

>>3751011
I can barely see it

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3751047

I really didn't simplify the forms nearly as much as I should have. Too much wasted time but at least it looks kinda nice so far.

>> No.3751061

>>3750413
Good job, keep at it! At least 10-20 each day for a week!

>> No.3751813 [DELETED] 

Any recommended books for good face construction?

>> No.3751885

>>3750402
If you care more about sight drawing, yes. If you want to learn construction, read FWAP.

>> No.3751975

>>3751011
Draw from life, i.e. creepshots.

>> No.3751983
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>> No.3752153

>>3751047
fuck simplifying forms, straighten up the position of the moth and nose its skewed, flip the image

>> No.3752177

why is there 2 beg threads

>> No.3752222
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>>3751047
try to flip the picture often and you can see things are wrong with her face, heres rearranged by me, not perfect but much better imo
learn the basic looks of a face, where things go

>> No.3752228

>>3752222
she still looks like a midget

>> No.3752230

>>3752228
a cuter midget

>> No.3752250

>>3752222
Now widen the shoulders.

>> No.3752252

>>3750402
yes, then huston figure drawing book once you get to about chapter 4. i don't remember the exact number but i think chapter 6 or 7 is the last thing you need in keys, his drawing objects part isn't the most productive.

>> No.3752255

>>3752250
i think just making the head smaller would be enough

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3752301

hend

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3753134

how bad is this and is it worth finishing?

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3753167

Drew this without really using any anatomy or muscle reference. Should I study muscle groups, Loomis, Bridgman etc... or should I focus more on the fundamentals (shapes, movement...) ?

>> No.3753201

>>3753134
ok well the first thing i would say is that thats two drawings not one and finish the first before you start the second, the next is that your background isn't a midtone its a bit too dark, and the last thing would be that you seriously need to work on the face, since its in photoshop you can cheat and do all kinds of things to the composition so just look at reference and do what you need to to make that face not look shit. the good part of this drawing is the hips and thighs.

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3753208

What is keeping my art from gathering at least some online attention? This is my fourth year in the hobby, and even though my art has been improving, the website receives just about equal attention as it did starting out.
Art is just a hobby for me, not going full career.
https://www.deviantart.com/genuinesongbird

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>> No.3753245

>>3753208
not aesthetically pleasing

>> No.3753276

The process of drawing makes me happy but when I draw like shit makes me feel like crap
When I feel like crap I give up art for the rest of the day then I wake up the next morning and repeat the cycle.

>> No.3753281

>>3753167
Fundamentals. The figures look very stiff and lack form. Decent anatomy though.

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I keep trying to revisit figure drawing but it all turns out like pic related. Even after getting some helpful advice it still turns out looking the same so I guess I lost what little talent I had since leaving high school a couple years ago. What should I be studying up on? These past few months I've made nearly no progress in improving.

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>>3753288
You've gotta block in the figure to see some progress. What I usually do is to try and "contain" the figure by seeing the figure as an irregular object. From there you break it down into simple shapes and compare the angels

>> No.3753492

How exactly should I go about practicing things like anatomy and muscles and such? Should I just copy what I see in books about said subjects, or try to draw out each muscle while doing figure drawings? Sorry if this is bad question im kinda lost on the subject

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3753550

Wow screen toning in krita is complete and utter aids. Doesn't help that there aren't any tutorials for it either.

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>>3749746
>>3753304
updated ass

>> No.3753613

>>3753492
Depends on how you learn, but the best bet would to do internals of each muscle so you know what they look like/their form. Ideally draw their range of movement too so you get down how the muscles shift and move depending on "x" movement. But I'm also a beginner so take it with a grain of salt.

>> No.3753614

Anybody have advice on what to look out for while going through perspective made easy

>> No.3753647 [DELETED] 

>>3750413
gj but some of these poses are questionable
specifically the 3rd pose from the left, your thumb can't bend facing that way

>> No.3753650

You're lacking serious fundies,
stop pushing forward and learn them on paper

>> No.3753654

>>3753650
Are you talking to everyone lmao. No shit its the /beg thread.

>> No.3753655

>>3753654
rip it didn't link the post

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3753670

So i was trying to find the vanishing point in this photo and the lines in the roof dont match, am i doing anything wrong?
maybe im blind or something

>> No.3753697

How important is a stylus tech? I know EMR is the best but the only decent one that's a laptop is wacom AES for lenovo yoga stuff.

Is that still good enough to draw with or am I going ot deal with jitter as fuck lines like the Surface series?

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i'm a turbo virgin who has never seen a titty in his life and i need help drawing these titties

>> No.3753755

What happened to based Nazi /beg/?

>> No.3753765
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I wanna know what should improve with my watercolor technique
This is the latest of my drawings

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3753779

I am drawing boxes. In the last thread, someone posted some awesome characters made out of boxes, can someone post that or tell me if my boxes are good? I dunno.

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My first attempt at landscapes and perspective, I haven't drawn before, this took me like 3 hours.
I really like Copic Multiliner and how it makes things pop.

Please tell me what you think /beg/

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3753809

>>3753806
>>3753806
Pleasse answer this, thank you.

>> No.3753816

>>3753809
At least 2 years if you practice everyday.

>> No.3753819

>>3753816
Well if they only practice like an hour everyday it would likely take 7-10 years.

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I forgot the foreshortening on the lower body, damn I was liking this one.

>> No.3753825

>>3753765
Color pallet is to saturate together. Needs more stark contrast between things.

>> No.3753827

>>3753825
How can i add more contrast between the objects in this case?
The first thing i am going to improve is to make everything less saturated

>> No.3753839

>>3753816
>>3753819
Well I wanted the time frames for each of the 3 points separately.

>> No.3753841

>>3749272
In all the time I have been drawing it feels as if I am bullshitting my way through it and hoping it works out through constant milage. Does anyone else feel a similar way?

>> No.3753850

>>3753596
I came

>> No.3753855

>>3753841
took me like three years of practice to get that feeling to go away even a little bit. Just keep trying different ways of doing things and once you have enough ground to stand on you'll be better off

>> No.3753860

>>3753855
Thank anon. I will have to keep that in mind.

>> No.3753870

>>3753670
the roof is probably slanted.

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If your drawing doesn't recieve replies it means you're doing a good job!
Keep up the good work! :)

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>>3753208
Much of it is boring, some is just unappealing.
You seem to be focusing on training your perspective, which in all of your pieces is your best attribute. However, good perspective doesn't do diddly if you don't train your understanding of composition, color theory, lighting, or organic forms.
"a gathering" is your best piece so far since you actually attempted to explore light/dark contrasts, with an okay color scheme. Even the composition is better than all your other pieces as it kinda leads my eye around. All that said, it's still pretty shit compared to what you need to get noticed.
Practice drawing small thumbnails with basic shapes filling the space instead of explicitly drawing in objects or details. You're eye for composition will benefit from this.
Practice making many fast paintings with strict color schemes, and paint with those colors with a large textured brush utilizing only less saturated (grey toned) versions of your colors in most of the canvas, while reserving the saturated versions for the focal points of the image. Communicate your idea abstractly with your use color, and composition, and only then define it with details.
I scratched out a simplified version of one of your other pieces. While the rendering of detail is not as advanced as in your original, pay attention to how I used less to communicate more. The circular lighting that leads the eye around the character, back to the face, and how I remove distractions from the viewer. This took me 10 minutes, and you should be painting these kind of fast easy color keys to see if your piece is visually appealing when viewed at a glance before you commit to defining any detail in the scene.

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Didn’t get a single piece of advice last thread, so trying my luck again.
I know I still need to work on my fundies to improve my anatomy, and probably my shading, but is there anything else that I blatantly need to work on?

>> No.3753879

should I look at black and white photos and try to copy them literally(not trace) to learn to share? all my life I never shade at all amd the problem is I kinda have 0 idea how to because most of the things I see when i observer stuff say a chair, I just focus on the shape i never mind the shading so i have no data.
and all my attempts feel weird when copying I dont feel like I'm going about it right.
How do i become a shading master?

>> No.3753882

>>3753809
It honestly depends how fast you realize the big ideas, people practice for years without understanding drawing 3d forms, gesture, and perspective. All of them can be learned in a month or so for someone who understands and practices them effectively.

The best way to practice is to learn the 3 mentioned topics above, and keep attempting to put them into practice from simple to complex. After that, learning to draw things takes a few days of study to do passably. You wont be a master for years, but it doesn't sound like you're asking for that.

>> No.3753883

>>3753879
>share
>amd
goddamn it kek

>> No.3753887

>>3753877
Perspective.
The eyes don't wrap around properly and appear as though they are 2D and glued on.

>> No.3753889

>>3753879
There's no shame in tracing. Try making a shitty light box and tracing the values from any picture with a wide piece of graphite, you may learn a thing or two.

The most recommended way to practice is drawing from life, and learning to draw what you actually see. Observe and draw explicitly how shadows work on a surface and attempt to draw them exactly how they are.

>> No.3753892

>>3751983
Looks nice, but a bit unfinished.

>> No.3753896
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>>3753779

Try making complex structures with several boxes. By trying to align them and keep the perspective, you'll improve much more than by doing "single" boxes. Get creative! twist them, bend them, stack them...

>> No.3753902

>>3753809
give pic source

>> No.3753905

>>3753821
don't draw on grid-paper next time. You could have still edited the legs in Photoshop.

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Made this, but I want to fill the rest of the page. Any ideas?

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>>3753905
Thank you for this advice. I am still new (around two months) and in this one I tried to fuck around with them a bit more out of curiosity. It has given me a bit of insight into perspective and other things, but I don't know how I am going to apply it.

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>>3753779
Don't just distort your boxes randomly on a blank canvas. Draw some 3d grids and put your object in perspective, then you can distort it as much as you want.
The point of drawing boxes, and other 3d shapes is to be learn how to place a 3 dimensional object in a 3 dimensional space. Drawing on blank paper (when you're just beginning) will lead to you distorting your objects, and worse, you will not learn how to believably place your objects in an environment.

>> No.3753920

>>3753803
It's very childish looking yet charming. Have you checked out any of the books recommended in the sticky? They can help with your perspective.

>> No.3753921

>>3753887
noted

>> No.3753931

>>3753910
Take LSD.

>> No.3753943

>>3753920
Yeah I'm going through a few books.
I wanted to draw a tree, knew that I got the shapes wrong, but kept drawing anyway, glad I did though.
I'm 26 years old and have a lot of catching up to do.

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>>3753911

Did you mean to reply to >>3753896 ?

Anyway, most artbooks have examples of using cubes and spheres to draw.

A good grasp of perspective and geometry will help you tons so keep up the good work!

>> No.3753950

>>3753208
Doing one point perspective out of frame look bad.

>> No.3753988

>>3753911
This is the same symbol of a one point perspective box over and over again, flipped once in a while for variety.

>> No.3754013

>>3753670
>am i doing anything wrong
You're assuming everything is at the right angle to each other. You'd be surprised how fucked up buildings can get in this aspect.

>> No.3754016

>>3753779
Your boxes are not good, none of them follow proper perspective and are warped for no rhyme or reason.
Learn about how a box works the 3 vanishing points that every box has.

>> No.3754017

>>3753910
Amazing stuff, maybe draw a tree skeleton bark humanoid figure underneath it all covered in leaves or something.
Why are you in /beg/ this is totally not /beg/

>> No.3754019

>>3754017
I couldn't find an advice thread and didn't want to make a new thread

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aahhhhh wtff am i doing

>> No.3754036

>>3749278
idk what you mean, apart from the nose being kind of wonky/too wide to the left(ours) its not that bad

the reason looks kinda uncanny is bc youre not using any lineweight as far as i can tell

do you not do lineart? bc a lone face without hair etc is gonna look weird if its not stylised

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How do i blend better and cleaner ? I know it's sakimichan and everybody hates her here but idc i like that clean blending but mine looks strange.

>> No.3754052

>>3754040
There are a ton of tutorials on skin blending, you can also look up speed painting to see the techniques

Yours just look like it's been done quick, even for a pro like sakimichan it takes a long time to blend as opposed to blocking in colors

>> No.3754063

>>3753208
I actually really like this, good job anon.

>> No.3754073
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In order to become a casual drawer who will only spend a few hours max a week on drawing, which is the best way: life drawing or anatomy grinding? The idea would be to quickly see results that could lead me to continue enjoying this little hobby

>> No.3754080

>>3754073
Stop being in a hurry.

>> No.3754086

>>3754073
Too much Botox

>> No.3754089

>>3754028
you are symbol drawing

>> No.3754094

>>3754028
Wish I knew.

>> No.3754097

>>3754028
Stop shitposting

>> No.3754112

>>3754052
understood ye actually i have done them pretty quick like 1 hour each sketch included

>> No.3754113

>>3754089
how is my shit symbol drawing but the sakimichingchong below me isnt?
>>3754094
im venting my frustration. maybe that will help tou answer my question
>>3754097
fuck you, you fucking gay ass retard

>> No.3754116

Friendly reminder that you should be drawing the things you want to draw while you are practicing and learning.
And if you mess it up try to fix it and continue, even if the end result sucks.

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>>3754116
This man speaks the truth but you could also be like me and just draw whatever even if it makes you feel dirty, i have no idea why i made this.

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>>3753596
YOU’RE NOT BEG!!!!! GET THE FUUUUCK OUT OF HERE!!!!! GEEEET OUUUUUTT!!!!!

>> No.3754143

>>3754113
>>3754028
You should try working on your brushwork. nothing wrong with staccato brushwork but you aren't using it in a way that helps to clearly define the form of what you're drawing, so it just looks haphazard and lazy. Its' probably symptomatic of you overall line confidence while drawing in general. It doesn't look like your sure enough about the information your'e trying to put down, or your ability to record it, to make any long, accurate and impressive strokes.
Those eyes look like straight up symbols, instead, keep in mind the folds, peaks, valleys and the 3D sphere underneath the skin that make up an eye. The same thing goes for the lips, think about the forms and planes , less about the fact that this is a mouth, or these are lips or this is an eye.
Measure your reference more accurately, that neck looks like a tree trunk compared to the rest of the drawing, especially in comparison to the body.
Work on your forms, keep in mind that everything in your drawing should have a front, sides, a bottom, a top. I can see that in the overall from of the head, for the most part, but everything from the chin down is a flat mess.

Good luck anon.

>> No.3754167
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3754167

>>3754133
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUUUUUCK WHY CAN’T I GET GOOOD!!??

>> No.3754172

>>3753911
Do drawabox lesson 1 or something equivalent. You seem to be at a stage where it would help you immensely

>> No.3754173

>>3754167
What have you tried?

>> No.3754179

>>3754173
EVERYTHING YOU FUUUCKINGG RETARDED FUCKING INCELL!!!!!!

>> No.3754209

I don't have any talent. Should I give up?

>> No.3754212

>>3754209
>>3754113
NGMI

>> No.3754213

>>3754209
Did you ever really start?

>> No.3754215
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3754215

I can only draw like this

>> No.3754217

>>3753877
Although I'd advice just using a photo and blurring it for a background if you must do that then at least run it through a filter so it matches your art a bit more then blur it.

>> No.3754218

>>3754179
>EVERYTHING
Tried everything for 2min

>> No.3754219

>>3754215
mkay.

>> No.3754224

>>3754215
I like drawing abstract stuff like that too, but ultimately it won't help you improve. You have to actually try to draw something concrete so that you have a measuring stick. What you are doing is equivalent to trying to learn math by writing down a bunch of random numbers and symbols.

>> No.3754227

>>3754213
I don't even know where to start. I'm awful at everything. Every book and video I've tried looking at always starts off way above anything I can produce. I just wanted to draw cool characters and fill requests on /v/ or /co/ and maybe take commissions someday but that's never going to happen.

>> No.3754228
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3754228

>>3754218
FUCK YOUUU INCEL!!!!! YOUR NOT GONNA MAKE IT EITHER!!!! SHOW YOU’RE WORK INCEL!!!!!!

>> No.3754233

>>3754228
damn these sketches are epic, instagram?

>> No.3754234

>>3754228
are you having a stroke, anon?

>> No.3754240

>>3754234
NOOO IM FUCKING NOT!!!

>> No.3754243
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3754243

>>3754228
>best one! Good job

>> No.3754244

>>3754228
blog ?

>> No.3754247

>>3754233>>3754244

I DONT KNOW HOW TO USE INSTAGRAM!!!>>3754243
SHOW YOUR WORK INCEL!!!!!!

>> No.3754253

>>3754228
literally me

>> No.3754266

>>3749278
unfinished faces may look awkward, when i was a beginner i was drawing a woman and i felt disgusted (feelsbadman.jpg)...she looked good at the end

>> No.3754285
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3754285

>>3754228
ARGHGHGHHHGHH!!! FUUCKING HELLLK!!! WHHHYYYY.

>> No.3754287
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3754287

>>3754073
>>3754080
>>3754086
I agree but, considering I'd like to get better in portrait without investing to many hours, what do I need to do to become better? Is copying enough?

>> No.3754289

So is drawabox actually good for beginners or is it a meme like Loomis

>> No.3754293
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3754293

Finished. Feedback please.

>> No.3754302

>>3754287
>enjoying this little hobby
i mean u said it yourself. If u just want to casually draw, do it.
If you want to do something in your life with art then you need to start studying.

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>> No.3754304
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>> No.3754308

>>3754293
Focus on using a full rage of values. Right now your drawing only reaches a ~60% grey instead of black, so it lacks depth.
The shadows in her face lack nuance. Most of it is the same value as the background gray, with little variation, so her face sort of disappears into the background. This may have to do with the lighting of your reference picture.
You also depend on using lines to convey detail in her facial features in hair, rather than nuanced shadows. It's jarring and detracts from the feeling of form.

>> No.3754313

>>3754302
You're right. Then what kind of studies would be better to begin with? Drawing separately face features using the recommendend books (I prefer the academic Russian stuff though) or studying using real life pictures? I think doing both would be a good idea, but which one would be better to begin with?

Also, if you have any specific remark concerning the two drawings above, please don't hesistate

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3754320

>>3754308
I don't know if it's the scanner or something. Here's the same drawing from my phone. Reference is definitely flat in value. https://i.4cdn.org/ic/1546296394909.jpg

Thanks for feedback, I'll keep on trying to go darker and I do need to work on my hair, I don't know how to draw it.

>> No.3754343

>>3754320
When it comes to referenced work, there's no special technique for hair. It's all observation, shapes, value, and edges. Make sure to simplify it into "chunks" and blocky shapes before adding lots of individual strands, though. Makes it more cohesive

>> No.3754359

>>3754293
Looks a little like Nicolas Cage.

>> No.3754361

>>3754285
you are going to have a stroke anytime soon if you keep this attitude

>> No.3754363
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3754363

>>3754285
I CANT FUCKING DO THIS SHIT ANYMORE!!! I’M FUCKING CRYING RIGHT FUUUUUUUUUCK!!!! WHY THE FUCK ARENT I TALENTED!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! FUCK YOU INBRED INCELS!!!! IT’S YOUR FAULT FOR NOT HELPING MEEEEEEE!!!!

>> No.3754364
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3754364

>>3754289
Why don't you just try it.

>> No.3754371

>>3754361
WHY DONT YOU FUCK OFF RIGHT INTO YOUR MOTHERS BASEMENT YOU FUCK!!!! FUUUCK OFFFF!!!

>> No.3754372
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3754372

>>3754285
>>3754363
Good Job! You're gonna make it!

Draw swastikas when in doubt

>> No.3754376

>>3754372
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I DRAW THAT ALT-RIGHT NAZI SHIT, INCEL?!!!FUCKING RETARD

>> No.3754379

>>3754376
Because your drawings will improve silly. You want to get good, draw Nazi's. It's the secret.

>> No.3754382

>>3754379
IM NOT A FUCKING IDIOT, YOU FUCKING NAZI INCEL!!!!

>> No.3754384

>>3754218
I clicked on the wrong board, is it always like this here?

>> No.3754388

>>3754384
yep

>> No.3754390

>>3754384
no

>> No.3754396

>>3754382
Don't knock it till you try it.

>> No.3754410

IM NOT GOING TO TALK TO ANY NAZI INCELS NO MORE!!!!

>> No.3754427

>>3754384
yes

>> No.3754433

>>3754363
FUUUUCKING HELL I DONT HAVE ANYMORE FUCKING PENCILS!!!! WHY THE FUCK DIDNT YOU FUCKS FUCKING HELP ME!!!!!

>> No.3754438

>>3749517
This is very obviously fake

>> No.3754455
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3754455

Those are drawings that I did using clipstudio with a brush with maximum stability, altough my quality worsened I am trying drawing without stability now.
The style I'am trying to get is of those like Takehiko Inoue, Michael Chang... A semi-realistic manga look.
Right now I need tips to get a better linework.

>> No.3754505

>>3753596
What type of brush did you use?

>> No.3754538
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Did this a while ago, art is just a hobby, how bad am i? (Its watercolors)

>> No.3754545
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3754545

Figure drawing practice. No idea if this is working and I'm getting anything out of it.

>> No.3754550

What order would you recommend a beginner learn things in? I keep trying to approach art but have no idea what to learn first, and everything I draw looks like a blob vaguely molded into the shape of what I want.

>> No.3754553

What do some of you guys do for daily practice? What's a good routine of practices to fall into?

>> No.3754572
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3754572

Gonna finish this off tomorrow.

>> No.3754592

>>3754550
It depends on where your weaknesses are. Everyone figures out different pieces at a different rate. I would suggest doing life/referenced drawings until you know what trips you up there, and then repeat the process with drawings done from imagination, & go back and forth, etc. You can pick and choose what to work on.

>> No.3754601

>>3753949
Yeah, I replied to the wrong person. Thank you!
>>3754172
I actually never knew about this website!
>Drawabox is my attempt at providing the information beginners need before they dig into the fun stuff. Rather than providing flashy "look what you'll draw in 10 easy steps!" promises, it's about introducing you to solid, proven exercises that work - given patience and determination.
This actually sounds like EXACTLY what I want. I have no problem "grinding" the fundamentals, as I had to when I got good at fighting games. Thank you, when I get home from work I will try going through this website.

>> No.3754605

>>3754550
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy/page/n15

>> No.3754620
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>>3753779
I'm wondering the same thing.

>> No.3754632

>>3754620
Why are you head boxes so freaking wide? The human head is not wider than deep.

>> No.3754635

>>3754632
Because this is my first time doing this, but thanks, I'll try to improve that.

>> No.3754654

>>3754073
Can you post the left picture please

>> No.3754760

>>3753670

The camera has a fairly wide lens in order to capture this much of the room. Projecting a curved focal plane onto a flat sensor will always result in distortion.

Doing your perspective lines the way a camera would capture them is possible, but very hard. It would involve subtle curves in your "straight" lines, and other issues.

>> No.3754769

>>3754620
I'm new to constructing bodies too, but try to add a few more sphere elements for joints/connectors. These boxes make your construction look disconnected

>> No.3754776

>>3754505
Real Pencil on Clip Studio Paint

>> No.3754826
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3754826

OK, let me put it this way, out of this 2 shitty drawings which one is the LEAST shitty?

>> No.3754843

>>3754826
never draw again

>> No.3754858

I can't draw humans so not even gonna post any of that here. Can I post non-human stuff even if it sucks?

>> No.3754873

>>3754858
Yes

>> No.3754875

Here goes nothing.

>> No.3754876
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3754876

>>3754875
I am a moron and forgot the pic

>> No.3754878

>>3754826
Neck yourself pedo.

>> No.3754880

>>3754826
christ you're still on this

>> No.3754895
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3754895

First time doing a "lineart" style drawing without a pencil or pen lines.

Feels good even if a study. I fucked up her right shoulder I know.

>> No.3754900
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3754900

Hows this so far? Im going for that 90s anime girl look. Main question would be, did I get the crotch right or would there be no gap visible?

>> No.3754916
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>>3754167
invest in good paper. B leads. a sharpener with a cap on it.

>> No.3754922
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3754922

Cant seem to find the porn thread. Thoughts on this one?

>> No.3754925

>>3754167
Why the paintbrush?

>> No.3754927

>>3754922
does your mom know you are drawing this kind of stuff?

>> No.3754931

>>3754927
I don't have a mom

>> No.3754942
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>>3754916
Bullshit. For their level of stuff and arguable even for pros if you aren't selling it this is all you need for studies. 28lb is enough that I can paint on it with gouache and it doesn't really buckle that much.

So for pencils, you won't need more than that. >>3754895
was done on that.

has a smooth hot press texture.

>> No.3754957

>>3754538
I LIKE IT

>> No.3754960
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3754960

More boxes!

>> No.3754969

>>3754960
try this exercise https://youtu.be/2XF5YuAK63I?t=120
if you can do that without looking at the video and you're happy with the result, move on from drawing boxes, you got it covered.

>> No.3755011
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3755011

I know this is asking a lot, but is there any chance someone might be able to do a paint-over or a redline of this please?

I'm having kind of a hard time dissecting where I went wrong on this one, especially in the face.

General critique is fine too btw, please and thank

>> No.3755056

>>3754363
-clean up your paper, if you draw like a caveman you're going to get stressed out.
-Draw small first(thumbnail drawing) it makes it easier to work out ideas and get a good composition so you don't waste time, energy, paper/materials on a large drawing just for it to suck.
- practice line exercises
- don't erase or use a pen especially starting off, forces you to think before you draw instead of throwing random lines down erasing all the time.
- stop drawing from imagination off the bat, practice blind contour and learn to draw what you see (book: keys to drawing). Learn about construction at the same time so you can learn to draw from imagination(books:perspective made easy and fun with a pencil).

learn to draw what you see and learn construction and you'll be on your way.

>> No.3755073

>>3754942
I need 9x12s because I file everything in plastic binders so I don't want loose paper shaking around inside. Good find on your part though

>> No.3755081
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3755081

How the fuck do I draw legs? I can draw hands and feet no problem but legs mystify me.

>> No.3755157

For fun with a pencil, should I be copying his examples, coming up with new ones, or both?

>> No.3755192

>>3755011
I think maybe the left (forward) shoulder is what is throwing it off. Details for fingers too. The arms are too noodly. They look like there is no bones in them.

>> No.3755195
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More gouche study bits. idk what I am doing Just glad to be doing anything I guess.

>> No.3755276
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3755276

gotta keep drawing the cinnamon roll

>> No.3755283

>>3754960
Those boxes aren't quite right. They don't have enough foreshortening, i.e. in real life they'd not be perfect cubes.
Remember that every cube should have it's vanishing points and always be constructed towards said vanishing points.

Bottom left cube is perfect, the 3 in the middle still look like impossible cubes (especially the on bang in the middle, it's basically all parallel).

>> No.3755288

>>3754900
> would there be no gap visible?
Depends on genetics whether a "thigh gap" exists, but more wrong with the picture if insertion points.

On her right (your left) leg, the hamstring should insert at the hip bone, not at the bottom of the butt.
On the other leg the thigh should insert closer to the abdomen.

Chest insertion should connect to the front deltoid, not the collar bone. Neck is too short, traps are therefore too small.
Bones get longer are the ends of arms/legs, not shorter.
Even for 90s anime eyes are too big.

TLDR; learn more anatomy.

>> No.3755290

>>3754876
Holy lack of contrast.

Make the wolf a different colour to the background. Either saturate the wolf with more bright colours or make the ground a warm colour.

The actual detailing seems fine.
Maybe redo the blood too, the blood should follow the contours of the fur, not be splatted flatly on top.

>> No.3755291

>>3754382
Well drawing some complex, especially fractal, ornaments will be good for your lines in the long run. Technically they don't need to be swastikas.

>> No.3755294

>>3754545
Have you tried drawing real people first?

Proportions and perspective are way off.

>> No.3755295

>>3754433
Stop eating them. HB pencil should be enough for like 2 months if you don't try to gobble up chunks of it.

>> No.3755299

who was in the wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UggDcU3UPGY

>> No.3755305

>>3754538
I like the palate, seems to be a decent understanding of light and shadow (some still missing).

Missed some 3D forms I'd say. Eye should be closer to the nose and slightly rotated more to form that strong contour from the nose to brow.

Apart from placement, eye still isn't 3D. Deeper shadow under brow ridge and below the eye + painting in the bottom of the top eyelid would make it "pop".

Potential here for sure.

>> No.3755310

>>3754363
Read and apply at least 1/4 of the sticky and stop sucking + stop complaining.

If you can't read, then go to an English school.
If you still suck after going through at least one of the suggested starter books, you can't read or didn't do the exercises.

Now get off 4chan and start drawing.

>> No.3755313

>>3754304
Darker darks, Loomis, construction, perspective...

All the normal shit people say.

>> No.3755314

>>3755299
no shilling, please

>> No.3755324

>>3754287
> I agree but, considering I'd like to get better in portrait without investing to many hours...

It normal takes hours to draw a single portrait so kind fucked there my friend.

> Is copying enough?
If you want to get good at copying I guess (you're not btw).

For starters in the future pick a picture that's not been awkwardly resized (entire thing is squished horizontally).

If you want to invest the MINIMAL amount of eyes, you need to MAXIMISE the time by working smart.

This means basically you don't draw for fun, you spend your extremely limited time doing studies on 3D forms, construction and lighting.

That is, if you have 5 hours in a week, spend half an hour learning/reviewing theory, 2 1/2 hours grinding studies, 2 hours doing a portrait, repeat.
It's boring af.

>> No.3755328

>>3755324
Ignore terrible spelling

MINIMAL amount of hours*

>> No.3755333

>>3755310
The sticky is useless, It is clearly made by people that already know how to draw and just try to rationalize it, but is useless to someone who has no idea of what he is doing. YOU CANT KNOW HOW SOMETHING YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN LOOKS LIKE this is a fact.

>> No.3755345

>>3755333
>YOU CANT KNOW HOW SOMETHING YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN LOOKS LIKE

If only Google and/or real life existed.

> It is clearly made by people that already know how to draw and just try to rationalize it
I guess that explains all the infants born with the ability to draw then. Couldn't be that they learnt it, just born a master.

Done answering a troll who can't (or doesn't want to) take criticism or advice.

>> No.3755347

>>3755299
>Manlet pedophile

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>> No.3755360

>>3755358
his legs are way to short

>> No.3755364

>>3755358
Learn construction.
Even when copying from something, draw boxes/cylinders/spheres to approximate before trying to draw the final form.

>> No.3755378
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3755378

This feels like the artistic equivalent of skipping leg day. I think my upper body game is ahead of the lower one, I couldn't make it look good. Still grid paper since it's practice.

>> No.3755380

>>3755314
i'm not sure what the debate is even supposed to be or what the point really is
but sbn3 says film school is a waste but destiny thinks its a good resource
is music more cultural than film?
should people who don't have their feet wet be allowed to be critical on subjects?
worship CHRISTina aguilera
bonus tl;dr - comments hate the guy for having an ego

>> No.3755386

>>3755378
>I think my upper body game is ahead of the lower one
Bad news friend.

>Still grid paper since it's practice.
How in any way (apart from copying a grided picture) do grids help?

Fun with Pencil then a book on perspective.

>> No.3755413
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3755413

okay i finished. please, please, please, do a paintover of the eyes if they are still too symbolish

>> No.3755420
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3755420

I struggle with trying to do hair like this so badly. my shapes never end up looking organic. (this isn't mine, just an example of what I would like to do.)

>> No.3755428
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3755428

this is too hard

>> No.3755431

>>3755413
I still think your understanding of lighting has a ways to go.

Between the lips and nose, those ridges should have soft shading (not hard white lines).

If the bottom of the nose is fully lit, everything in the same plane should be lit too.

It seems like you're mixing shadow and light values which makes it not appear 3D.

Her right eye (viewers left) is still too large.

You're right, both eyes are still missing the 3D affect. Should be able to see the bottom of the top lid and top of bottom lid.

Also that "V" down her neck seems wrong.

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>>3755420
same anon. I tried it quickly before bed after... I got lazy near the end but you can likely see what i mean.

>> No.3755506

>>3755428
I'd hit it so I think you're on the right track. What methods are you using?

>> No.3755508

As a beginner should I be learning with ink or pencil? both? I've been given too much contradictory advice

>> No.3755513

>>3755508
pencil and mechanical pencil

>> No.3755516

>>3755413
post the ref?

>> No.3755524

>>3755513
ok. though I've heard that learning with ink first helps with learning to draw lines well and construct in my head easier. I'm not sure. I've just been doing both at different times

>> No.3755531

>>3755524
its like this
when you want your kid to learn how to swim, do you give him floaties and like float around by the stairs so nothing bad happens, or do you just throw him into the deep end and hope instinct will kick in

>> No.3755545

>>3755531
Why not both?

It's not always mutually exclusive

>> No.3755549

>>3755531
Throwing your kid in works wonders I've heard. Makes them immune to panic from the start

>> No.3755551

Been following the Drawabox lesson guides for about a couple hours. Have these really helped a ton of people here? Like is this a PROVEN way to git gud?

>> No.3755553

>>3755551
Just keep learning. Don't question it and keep drawing.

>> No.3755568
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3755568

>>3755516
i didnt use any. just looked for ideas for the hair

>>3755431
so i worked on it a bit more addressing the issues you brought up. plus a couple that i noticed like the side of the head being to light and a lack of bounce light. i also lightened up the face overall since its vales were about the same as the upper chest and should have been lighter as its closer to the light. still not sure how well i did with the eyes

>> No.3755592

>>3753902
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4399929

>> No.3755623

>>3755551
Like there is such a thing as a "proven" way to improve. My opinion is if you really want to improve decide what you want your goal to be and then lay out the steps to get there yourself. No point walking someone else's path if you're not a 100% sure it's where you want to go. Point is, you should be smart enough to set you're own milestones to accomplish whatever it is you want. So if you want to be able to draw realistically, break that skill down into its general components like perspective, form, light, ect and then break those individual parts down to something your able to study and practice. That way your artwork and studying will have direction and clear signs of what you need to improve like if you notice your lines are shaky you can shift focus to fix it; plus you'll hopefully wont be unhappy because you aren't aimlessly trying to do what others say is the "best" way to improve in an attempt to "just get good".

>> No.3755630
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3755630

>>3755568
i recommend painting one portrait with no opacity, start with something like cellshading and get more complex from there

>> No.3755642

>>3755630
omfg so mine is just complete dogshit? but that sounds like a fun idea

>> No.3755649

>>3755623
>like if you notice your lines are shaky you can shift focus to fix it
Not that guy, but does anyone have any exercises to help on this besides what's in the dynamic sketching video in the google doc? It's not that it hasn't been helping, I just want something else to alternate it with or something. Variety is the spice of life and all that.

>> No.3755652

>>3754505
>ngmi - the post

>> No.3755666

>>3755649
I believe the dynamic exercises are pretty much where it's at when it comes to proactive practice. I'd probably say just do a few practice DS warmups everyday before you start then move on to your actually drawing/studying practice. Like going to the gym you aren't going to see any amazing gains immediately, they're kinda there to keep you "fit" in a sense and you wont be able to graph your progress of straight improvement right away but when you look back a month, 6 months, a year from now you'll definitely be able to see a difference. But on the subject of alternatives there should be enough variance in exercises in dynamic sketching/i think drawabox that you can cycle through each day, you probably don't want to be trying to do every exercise everyday unless that's really something your super autistic about.

>> No.3755713
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3755713

doing natural way yo draw this is a cross countor of a shark

>> No.3755885

>>3755428
bushes are a bit hard for skin. Unless you're going for a painted look, soften your transitions.
Skin isn't just flat warm tan and pinks, it has blues and greens as well. Your colors are too superficial and flat.
You need reflected light plains on the underside of the ass curve.
Ass silhouette is denty and pointy in spots, smooth those curved edges.
Labia crease is lopsided to begin with, but you pushed it farther. It looks like a mistake because yours is not a photo, push it more towards the ideal center.
A warm light source means you need cool shadows, you have warm light and warm shadows making it feel muddy and gross.

>> No.3755886

>>3755885
Brushes, fuck me.

>> No.3755894

>>3755713

apply yourself

>> No.3755901
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3755901

Keyboard Wrist is fucked so im in the sketchbook today lads.

>> No.3755904

>>3753596
>>3755428
What are the main differences between these two? I really don’t get what I can do to transition into the first one.

>> No.3755930

>>3755506
"wing it" method, im using some anime brushes that I downloaded for hair use to paint since they feel better.

I mostly jusst lay in whatever tone lookss right then add what I think i need to add, mainly dark shadows first;i didnt do linework for this one as a foundation

>>3755885
Thank you, its not intentional i just have no idea how to color skin nicely tool wise, or color wise obviously. i cant even see any cool colors in the picture, is my eye not trained enough?

>> No.3755952

>>3754363
Shit's so bad its almost impossible to figure out what you are trying to so.

>> No.3755960
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>>3755930
Shadows in real life reverse the color temperature of the light source. The light source in your image is warm, and it creates a cooler color in the shadow plain.

Colors are relative, so they can be very close together due to having similar saturation, but it's important to pay attention and start seeing the distinction between color temperatures on an object across light to shadow plains.

This video from Marco Bucci explains it well. The whole series is worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhcNbFMkTw

>> No.3756054
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3756054

Some composition stuff. Which one should I do though? I like them all.

>> No.3756061

>>3755894
3-4 hours every day. am still shit as you can see

>> No.3756062

>>3755453
It's likely that you suck horse cock

>> No.3756063

>>3755952
What he's doing is trying to fuck with the board, like really? Snapped pencils, shitty drawings, crumpled and ripped papers, he smudges everything and he has a fucking paintbrush. The fact the board is giving him even a modicum of attention with this lazy ass bait is quite infuriating, but i guess that's the point so i guess he got me.

>> No.3756108

>>3756054
do all of them

>> No.3756112

>>3754826
Both are wrong on a fundamental level.

>> No.3756170

>>3756054
Personally i'd attempt 5 cause it seems like the one with the most potential to improve in its composition. It's just my opinion and they may be pretty simply changes in terms of composition theory or whatever but i think it would be interesting if you added a person in front of the crab all the way up close to it(real small) to show its incredible size and then make the people in the foreground larger relative to the crab to show some amount of contrast.

>> No.3756208 [DELETED] 
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3756208

Drew this from imagination, please give me some critiques.

>> No.3756214
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3756214

Drew this from imagination, please give some critiques.

>> No.3756282

>>3755960
thanks, ive seen some of his videos but not this one. i understood/understand the inverse rules but i cant seem to apply it. i noticed you used a purple but i always think blues, i tried adding both to the shadows of my study to see what happens but it didnt look right. i think i am just stupid. is it considered "going oppisite/cool" if youre just moving closer to grey

>> No.3756292

>>3756214
It looks like shit obviously. You probably posted it thinking people will validate your garbage art like your family and friends do. Go learn how to draw you fucking mongoloid.

>> No.3756299

>>3756292
>"please give critiques"
>trying to be validated

you what

>> No.3756309

Can someone post that infographic with the recommended reading list and the order the books are to be read in.

>> No.3756311

>>3756214
It's better if you will post a study

>> No.3756317

>>3755056
Is there any book I could read that's below keys to drawing?
it seems a little advanced

>> No.3756348

>>3755364
>draw boxes/cylinders/spheres to approximate before trying to draw the final form
Not him, but this shit doesn't work at all.

>> No.3756352
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3756352

what artist to copy so I can learn how to draw in this style?

>> No.3756354

>>3755630
b-blog?

>> No.3756370

>>3756348
Oh sorry anon are you too retarded to make simple shapes and rotate them in 3D space?

>> No.3756374

>>3756370
Apparently, because I can't see anything in shapes.

>> No.3756384

>>3756370
You're confusing shape with form.

>> No.3756388

>>3756352
Luca Cambiasi

>> No.3756392

>>3756374
Because you're a worthless idiot. Why are you even here? You're prime NGMI.

>> No.3756398

>>3756370
See >>3754568
>>conflating Shape and Form

>> No.3756406

>>3756392
>You're prime NGMI.
I know.

>> No.3756410

>>3756384
Other way around.

>> No.3756418
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3756418

>>3756352
Akihiko Yoshida

>> No.3756435

>>3756418
thanks, I'll trace him for a month or so until I understand the style.

>> No.3756448

>>3756398
What's the difference?

>> No.3756473

>>3756448
Shape refers to 2d objects while forms refer to 3d objects. A square is a shape, a cube is a form. A triangle is a shape, a pyramid is a form. Etc.
Lines make up shapes, shapes make up forms. 1d (line) builds 2d (shape), 2d builds 3d (form).

>> No.3756478
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3756478

>>3756435
How much do you think you're going to learn by just tracing some random artist?

>> No.3756482

>>3756170
>>3756108
I ended up rolling on a random number generator and got 6. I've already learned quite a bit, I didn't really consider the relation between the lobsters background and the light tower itself. I think I need to make the light tower bigger

>> No.3756483
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3756483

>>3756482

>> No.3756486
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3756486

>>3756448
Shape is flat 2D, Form is 3D. Different artstyles emphasize either one or the other. Pic related is shape dominant, even though there’s depth in the landscapes it’s achieved simply by overlapping flat shapes

>> No.3756494

>have aphantasia
Can I still make it?

>> No.3756496

>>3756486
I'm having trouble seeing the difference between shape dominant and form dominant art. Can you post more examples or explain further?

>> No.3756498

>>3756062
Such constructive criticism.

Also don't project your feitshes bro. No judgement for what you do in your own time, to each his own/horse.

>> No.3756520

>>3756478
a lot

>> No.3756530

>>3756062
hahaha this

>> No.3756532
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3756532

>>3756486
>>3756496
This pic is an example of form dominance. Look at how the light affects objects, so that their forms are apparent. Unlike the previous pic, the edges here are fluid - see the dark areas of the figures, how they blend into the shadows. European styles, starting from the Renaissance, became largely form-dominant, while other styles like Japanese Ukiyo-e, anime, Persian miniature, Medieval illuminations, are shape-dominant

>> No.3756534 [DELETED] 

>>3756494
I wish you didn't have to respond to an insult with another insult but since you're going to do it anyway can you please come up with something a little more creative then a glorified "no u" or even just say "no u" instead of waterboarding me with words.
>>3756520
Can you elaborate? How long have you been seriously drawing and how far have you actually gotten? I cant imagine you've made much progress if your solution to wanting to learn is tracing.

>> No.3756538

>>3756534
I never seriously draw, I just draw for fun.

>> No.3756545
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3756545

>>3749272
How is this one anons

>> No.3756561

>>3756538
I see, well then just do whatever but expect your results to be proportionate to your effort. So since you aren't serious and since humans like to overestimate, you should take whatever you think the outcome of your practice is going to be and then lowball it by like 40% and that's probably what will come out of it. That way you aren't wildly disappointed and immediate discouraged from continuing to draw but also don't expect to get significantly better without effort.

>> No.3756574
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3756574

Was doing some studies from a book on fashion and on the same shelf was one on orangutans so I made this.

>> No.3756577

>>3756498
I wish you didn't have to respond to an insult with another insult but since you're going to do it anyway can you please come up with something a little more creative then a glorified "no u" or even just say "no u" instead of waterboarding me with words
>>3756494
Yes if you do in fact have aphantasia it's possible to draw and subsequently "make it" but you're going to need to be smarter than the average bear or at least more hardworking then one.

>> No.3756615
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3756615

Never really drawn much before and I thought I could give it a go. Did the upside down Stravinsky from the guide and hands are completely fucked, but I guess otherwise it's okay.

I just wanna draw anime tiddies like probably half the thread, but I downloaded the Loomis pack now.

>> No.3756619
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3756619

>>3756615
Other random stuff I did from reference.

>> No.3756664

>>3756577
Cute.

You've still not actually said anything... If you're the original poster how does slinging insults first then getting sensitive after make that on me lol?

Subject was drawing hair for the literately challenged.

>> No.3756852
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3756852

>>3756483
Trying out lots of new things with this piece, but I'm done for tonight. Any feedback is much appreciated.

>> No.3757081

Are there any ways to make practicing not incredibly boring? Feels like I always end up doodling some anime bullshit whenever I sit down to try and improve

>> No.3757110

>>3757081
draw anime and copy from anime then. Do what makes you interested in drawing.

>> No.3757239
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3757239

Something is fucky with the legs and I'm debating just slapping on a robe to cover the shame

>> No.3757251

>>3757239
>tops of thighs are too far back and dislocated from the hip joints. Draw where the bones would be and you'll see it.
>Legs dont follow the line of the body, so they dont look like they carry any weight.
>Posing is stiff, no one stands with their legs at 90 degrees from each other.
>your pose implies the right leg is further back, but it looks pushed forward where it's creasing the hip incorrectly. This make it look like a gimpy shorter leg jutting off the side of the bottom of the hip, rather than distorted by distance.
>neck is too long.
>chin is very sunken in given the angle your trying to draw it at.
>belt is literally killing her.
>Sword is off angle
There, go fix all that before you make another knife eared fuck wear a dress.

>> No.3757255

>>3757251
I draw ONE ELF and this is what I get
thank you

>> No.3757334
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3757334

i want this suffering to end i dont get it

>> No.3757351
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3757351

WTF is drawing like asanagi so hard.

>> No.3757414

fyi the guide on finding reference on the sticky is dead

>> No.3757507
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3757507

>>3757334
Is this more what you're trying to do?

>> No.3757511

>>3757351
>Because you didn't lightly lay out your forms before diving into detail
If you took the time to lay out your forms lightly, you would have clearly seen how broken most of this piece is, and from there corrected it.
I was gonna critique more, but that's literally the solution to everything problem I see, so just do that and don't make me type more.

>> No.3757552

I feel like a complete mongoloid retard using a pencil but do okay using pens. Am I actually retarded?

>> No.3757563
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3757563

Made a NEW THREAD we are almost bottom

>>3757555

Hope skellington is fine to use for a new OP

>> No.3757856

>>3757507
its a lot better than mine, i just dont get "cool" shadows when even colorpick turns them all dark red

>> No.3758183
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3758183

For frame of refrence,I've been drawing for 8 months and used sketchbook pro on the iPad for this and used my finger to draw it

>> No.3758428

>>3758183
keep trying anon, don't give up!

>> No.3758478
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3758478

Recent set of studies I did, mixed with a bit of imagination work.

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