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Have a confession to make as an artist or a d/ic/k? Air your dirty laundry here.

Keep it art related, or related to the hobby/lifestyle/career/education of art.

>> No.3693970

>>3693967
In 5yrs I’ve never read the sticky

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>>3693967
I have been drawing for like 3 years and I’m still too insecure about my basic skills to begin coloring and dedicated lighting
I just really like drawing basic stuff ok

>> No.3694026

I autistically spend time reading art books and drawing videos when i had planned to grind figures and gestures. i don't know why, then i end up not practicing much and i feel bad.

>> No.3694038

>>3693973
Do dine with an alien who emits light from her very skin often?

>> No.3694045

>>3693967
i use a tablet but i still ink and do the final brushwork with a mouse

>> No.3694067

Most people just want fame, that’s why we’ll never make it.

Wanting fame is not the same as true expression, and true expressionists don’t make//care about the money- it’s the artless dodger that always wins.

>> No.3694075

>>3694067
>being said, choosing to not care about money will not suddenly give you insight to true expression.

>> No.3694090

>>3693967
I bought like 6 art books (like education ones) and I have yet to finish 1

I have countless more books on my hard drive plus video lectures I haven’t watched

Feelsbadman

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>>3694090
Close 4chan and get to work.

>> No.3694109

>>3694094
Actually it’s 4:43 am where I am and I’m on here procrastinating my college supplemental essays. I already drew today and that’s usually not the issue, I just don’t read the shit I buy. Thanks for motivation though, will read more framed perspective tomorrow

>> No.3694117

>>3694109
Godspeed anon, I hope you improve and succeed.

>> No.3694298

>>3693970
you dont need to its shit anyway

>> No.3694300

>>3694090
what books do you have?

i had read mine, i need to crack open my anatomy books again tho. want to buy some new ones too

>> No.3694305

I've never read Loomis or any tutorial artists. I only take advice from anons.

>> No.3694307

>>3693967
After 5 years does my artstyle is beginning to stabilise and starting to get a more regular audience.
Though I'm also starting to feel that I am only drawing for the attention lately.

>> No.3694310

>>3694305
>how to spot a NGMI

>> No.3694329

>>3694090
I bought 4 cgma courses and 2 other $500 courses and have yet to finish any of them.

>> No.3694332

>>3694329
That's $3800 - $4000 spent on this shitty hobby and I'm still shit. Not including art supplies, the cintiq I bought, and physical books estimates my spending to $5000 to $6000.

>> No.3694335

>>3693967
It's been a year since I really started working on my art but I've only gotten through a couple of small practice books and my art is still not even /beg/ level, at this rate I'll be dead before I get anywhere.

>> No.3694336

>>3694045
Jesus Christ, why would you do that?

>> No.3694339

>>3693967
I have an extra kimjunggi book and an acquaintance wanted to have it despite not being an artist at all

>> No.3694351

i keep trying to copy other people artsyle but when im close, i just go for the next artist.

>> No.3694353

>>3693967
I got good enough to understand and draw things in 3 dimensional space, my understanding in color is still below good; I feel that I could get better if I had time to draw, but I waste all my free time of vidya. help

>> No.3694358

Confess now, do you fap to your drawings?

>> No.3694360

>>3694358
Nah, I'm frigid

>> No.3694369

Sorry for late reply, woke up from slep

>>3694117
Than you very much.

>>3694300
I have Framed Perspective vols 1 and 2, Steve Huston's figure drawing book, Pen and Ink Drawing by Alphonso Dunn, and both of Scott Robertson's books. Yes I know some of these are in the artbook thread, I just like reading physical copies more.
On my hard drive I have the usual (Loomis, Hampton, Bridgman, etc) plus video courses from Vilppu, Watts Atelier, and Hampton. I don't know what books you read but Huston, Vilppu. and Bridgman are all good. Hampton is actually a bit harder for beginners which was why I kind of dropped after the muscles part started. Might be good for you though since you already know anatomy.

>> No.3694372

>>3694358
the occasional half-chub when its better than my usual shitpiles, but then i fuck it up one way or another

>> No.3694500

I've never read a book or followed a tutorial or anything since starting in 2014, and while I managed to slowly feel my way around drawing to a decent level, I never managed to learn all that much about color and now my pride gets in the way of actually reading books about it

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>>3693967
i don't pay taxes

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If someone thinks I have aptitude/talent in something, despite it just being me working hard, I don't even correct them. It feels embarrassing to admit it even though it should be something I should be proud of. Feels like I'm disappointing them if I correct it.

But in reality no one actually gives a shit.

>> No.3694730

i feel like practice books are shit. the only way to become an interesting artist is if you develop your own individual style and don't get it from a practice book. Find out what artists, and what specifically you like about their art, and make your own version of it that exaggerates what you find is good in other art.

>> No.3694737

>>3694358
No, but they turn me on.

>> No.3694786

I have spent almost 4 years only autisticly practicing and studying art (almost) every day, and I have completely surpassed a lot of my artist friends who I met when I was complete shit. I'm afraid this makes them super jealous and resent me for finding secret art gains or something so I don't talk to them much anymore because when I do they just say my art looks really good and that they are jealous of how good it looks.

Secretly I revel in the compliments and secretly thrive on the nature of competition and feel like I'm winning. I shame them for not trying as hard as me to be better, but I'm deadly afraid that they will catch up and be better than me.

>> No.3694794

>>3694786
post your work

>> No.3694797

>>3694358
they're my babies, i can't

>> No.3694799

>>3694730
Your probably reading the books wrong because they don't teach style, they teach foundation. Perspective, composition, anatomy, color theory are the sponge base of a cake, the style is the icing that gives it flavor. If all you have is icing your cake lacks substance.

>> No.3694801

>>3694794
I'm just here to confess my feels

>> No.3694803

>>3694801

But I wanted to congratumatate you. Didn't you get off on the complemenations?

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>>3694786
>I shame them for not trying as hard as me to be better
Cringe. Judging people by your own goals. Kys, npc scum.

>> No.3695244

I want to make a comic but I dont have any writing skill because I only read books for school classes and never for fun because "I would rather be drawing" but my drawing is shit because I never study, and I also have a nasty habit of drawing just to get attention from people. I'm the worst of both worlds but I dont know if this desire is one of genuine art for myself or just to please some illusion of being a famous and rich comic artist.

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>>3694336
using a mouse is literally easier for me and more precise, some strokes i cant do at all with my hand
aka im ngmi and retarded

>> No.3695524

>>3694332
ridiculous. you should only need 100 dollars worth of materials as a beginner, maximum. pencil, charcoal, ruler, paper, eraser, something to draw on like a board, and maybe a book of technical stuff. you should never have spent that much money when almost everything required to become skilled is free. thats a toxic investment.

>> No.3695538

>>3694500
Just do it, no one needs to know. Or if someone you know will see, just say you're 'considering some different perspectives' or 'looking into alternative representations of moods' or whatever the fuck make something up. Even to your own mind.

>> No.3695549

>>3693967
i'm an architecture student but my perspective is still shit

>> No.3695555

I spent $100 in proko's anatomy curse and now I feel like shit becuase it's free everywhere here... and I understand hampton way more.

>> No.3695566

The one book that has helped me the most I've yet to actually purchase

>> No.3695570

>>3695555
>proko’s anatomy curse
Based quads of truth

>> No.3695589

>>3695555
where it's free?

>> No.3695623

>>3695549
>architecture student
>perspective is shit
how did you even pass the entrance exam, perspective is one of the fundies where im studying at

>> No.3695627

>>3694358
yes, I do, on a regular basis in fact

>> No.3695643

>>3693967
My friends and artists who are younger than me are all slowly passing me and im starting to really realize that im not going to make it and I never had a plan B because I was so dedicated I thought I would for sure be one of the ones who succeeded. I want to fucking die.

>> No.3695890

I'm about to start drawing 1 in college but I'm scared I'll fail because I naturally suck

>> No.3695910

>>3693967
i dont practice as much as i should because im better than 99% of this board so i just call people out then BTFO them with my art but i cant compete with the truly skilled artists, i have big fish small pond syndrome

>> No.3695946

>>3695910
Post your work so I can laugh at you

>> No.3695994

I stopped drawing porn to be more appealing to "industry" positions, the 2 chances i had lined up both fell through AND my social media presence stagnated

>> No.3696007

>>3695946
yOu FirSt

>> No.3696659
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I must admit today was the first time in my life I woke up and realized I deeply regret making illustration my career choice. I used to think: hey, whatever I pick up I’d always end up regretting I hadn’t pursued what I’d truely loved… Well, I am finally ready to admit: it was a MISTAKE. I should have kept doing art as a hobby and put my mind to studying something useful like chemistry or mathematics. I could be in my fifth year of bio-engineering, instead I struggle every day to get my ass from bed to desk to produce something half-decent for people to judge. I don’t know how much money I’m gonna make this month, or next month, or the month after that. I wish I had lived my life differently, but high school is over, college is over, the only good professional opportunity I had went to waste, and I’m still a nobody

>> No.3696664

>>3696659
get good

>> No.3696674

>>3696664
There will always be a million people who are better than me and even if I get good, there's a million people who are already at this level There is no point in trying anymore.

>> No.3696680

>>3696674
yeah people got better than you by trying a little and then giving up. youre right where you belong i hope you stay bad forever

>> No.3696687

I suck and i know i'm the only one to blame for it and it makes me want to kill myself for my laziness and my lack of passion
yet i want to get praised for being mediocre
why? i don't fucking deserve it

>> No.3696827

I've been a neet since age 18, I'm 24 now but haven't studied a single art book and haven't even picked up a pencil in like 3 years. I come here sometimes to make myself feel bad about wasting 6 years I could have been getting good, but every time I feel like I should force myself to study even if I wont ever be great, I think about how much time I wasted and how good I might have been and give up

>> No.3696856

>>3696674
That's literally the case in any field, unless you're some kind of genius innovator prodigy which is something you shouldn't bet on

>> No.3696862

>>3696674
Each day you work on your art that millions of people number will drastically decrease

>> No.3696878

>>3693967
I'll never kick using art materials that I've basically scavenged despite being crap until I stop sucking at art but I'll probably never stop sucking at art unless I stop using crap I find on the ground.

>> No.3696887

>>3696674
there are also millions of people worse than you that feel the same way and with they could at least be as decent as you

>> No.3697028

I'm extremely paranoid about getting a art job because I don't want people to connect the dots between my real life portfolio and casual online account(s).

>> No.3697067

>>3694067
>tfw don't care about money or fame and just about getting gud
>this is already such a crippling weight that "self expression" is completely out of the picture
Sadfaec

>> No.3697112

>>3697028
Damn, I feel the same way.

I'm actually kind of worried about 'making it' one day because of that reason. Not to meantion the pressure of the spotlight and having 'fans'. I don't know if the recognition is worth ultimately losing your private life.

>> No.3697123

>>3693973
3 years and still at that level. Seems like you're going about learning completely wrong. Not to be mean, but you could make a ton of improvement in a month if you applied yourself to learning properly.

>> No.3697144

>>3697123
>instead of doing it wrong, just do it right
Nice advice

>> No.3697157

>>3697144
Exactly. It's not rocket science. The anon just needs to go to the sticky and apply themselves. It's obvious from the drawing that they've not even started.

>> No.3697188

>>3697112
It's comforting to see I'm not alone.
I'm planning on asking for advice from other anons as to how to avoid such a fate.
I don't want to lose my almost decade long time of being a somewhat anonymous online artist and then suddenly have people know my real name or something. Really puts me over the edge.

>> No.3697275

>>3697188
Anon you replied to here.
Some advice I've heard over the years is to create separate art styles. One for your personal account and one for your professional account. Also try not posting anything specific (like OCs) on both accounts, as it could link them together.
And on your personal account, try avoiding disclosing any personal information if possible; be as anonymous as you can. Use a pseudonym or even a fake persona if you'd like.

Hope this helped a bit. Good luck anon.

>> No.3697276

i want to draw cunny

>> No.3697282

>>3693967
I started drawing just to make pretty pictures of my waifu. At some point I got rolled up into drawing porn and now that’s all I’ve drawn for the past month. My ‘porn style’ isn’t suitable for drawing her at all. Each day I feel myself getting more and more locked into drawing porn and slipping further and further away from my initial goal...

>> No.3697317

>>3697282

Draw cute shit and porn on different blogs, it's what I do

>> No.3698916

I Trace

>> No.3698919

>>3693967
i waste more hours here than drawing

>> No.3698926

>>3698919
This is except it's not just with art. I spend more time on /v/, /a/, and /ic/ then actually doing the activities associated with those boards. Are lurk drawthreads and offer to draw for people only to drop the idea completely once the pencil is actually in hand

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Tl:Dr I’m a resentful bitch that isn’t getting gud because I’m too busy being jealous of my ex who’s more successful than I am.
I just want to be free of this horrible poison. I don’t like hating anybody. Ultimately I just want to make something that I can be proud of, that other people love.
But there’s a gross side of me that wants fame and success just so I can prove to my ex that they were wrong about everything about me. They said things to make me feel so worthless. When I finally accepted that there was nothing to hold on to, they wouldn’t let me move on. They wouldn’t leave me alone to heal, they’d just keep saying things to make me feel like a worthless piece of shit that they threw away because they were better than me. Telling me how hard I failed, who they were dating now, how good their life was.
I feel like I’ve left that attack on my soul unanswered, and because I’m not a successful artist I feel like absolute garbage, which just makes me even more of a resentful and damaged person.
I can’t become a good artist if I’m haunted by my own hatred for this person. It takes up too much space in my mind.

How do I overcome my own ego and humble myself to become a good artist? How do I keep my dreams and ambitions realistic?

>> No.3699686

>>3696827
Are you still planning on art as a career?

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>>3693967
I'm 24 going on 25 in a week and a bit. I've been painting for 4 years or so and am stuck in a loop. I work a typical fast food job where I spend almost the entire day thinking about painting, replaying videos and lessons I have learned in my mind, trying to break down my environment and how lighting acts in it using my imagination and dreaming about just going home to be alone in the dark and to draw. I push away from social invites and alienate anyone out of my immediate circle of family and one long-time friend because all I ever want to do is draw. I spend my time listening to audiobooks on productivity and altering my life for the better, so I can try to learn how to clearly focus in on doing the thing that I love and have the energy and drive to succeed

and then, when I sit down after working a long shitty day and I go to draw, I freeze up. Either I don't paint anything at all or I paint and it's a quality that I deem unacceptable and get pissed. My social media had all but died and any followers have more than forgotten about my existence. In the last 3 months, I have posted 5 things

I paint the same stupid shit over and over with the same flaws and never expand to the level I want to be to illustrate what I want to.

I'm just so angry and tired. I wouldn't have ever called myself an angry person before but something has gone bitter at the core of me where I am just so upset at my progress and the circumstance I've put myself in.

There you go, blog post over. I can't even tell whether I feel better or worse after writing this all out. Here's the latest garbage I didn't post

>> No.3699867

>>3699858
>I push away from social invites and alienate anyone out of my immediate circle of family and one long-time friend because all I ever want to do is draw.
Bad idea. Your brain needs social interaction to work at its best.
>latest garbage I didn't post
Post it, silly. Post everything. People aren't artists and they don't notice flaws. They like sketches. Most of the value of a piece, to the average joe, is what's in it. that will be there whether you like the piece or not.

>> No.3699871

Sometimes I feel like my art is so much shit I keep relearning and learning the fundimentals untill my hands hurt. Also I spent about 300$-400$ on copics and never use them

>> No.3699874

>>3699871
>Sometimes I feel like my art is so much shit I keep relearning and learning the fundimentals untill my hands hurt
This is OK. Don't blame yourself.
>Also I spent about 300$-400$ on copics and never use them
Dude, use them.

>> No.3699879

>>3699858
It isn’t garbage Anon. I think it’s really good. Is there something or a number of things in particular about it that you aren’t satisfied with?
I’m a tad younger than you but I’m in a similar boat. One thing I’ve learned in the last 6 months is that if you socially isolate yourself, you will be miserable, and if you’re that miserable you will drop the ball on everything. Slogging through days or weeks without seeing one friendly face is brutal for even introverted people, let alone artists who do the majority of their creative work alone.
I’d also say that having a game plan prepared one day before helps a lot. Pick no more than 3 things, and do the most important thing first. When you sit down and you freeze up, you’ll have a guiding document that tells you what you need to do next. Honor your past self by fulfilling your agreement to yourself to do your work. If the quality of your work is what’s killing you, identify your problem areas and make a plan to tackle those problems with intention.
As for posting, I have no idea myself. I do the whole posting regularly thing for two weeks before burning out. I’ll find a solution that doesn’t burn me out eventually.
I hope things get better Anon. Don’t slander yourself.

>> No.3699882

yah I have to agree with >>3699879

>> No.3699887

>>3693967

I have smashed 3 laptops 2 of which were above 1200 dollars, art related rage, and i have smashed 3 wacom tablets, 2 were $400 dollars and one was $200. All because I became frustrated with the slow tedious progression of becoming a true artist, reaching that level you dreamed of.

all of that shit i smashed was my hard earned cash.

>> No.3700019

>>3699867
yea but why force more social interaction when I'm stuck out all day. If anything I should maybe just invest myself in the people around me/my job instead of painting over and over in my head. But then I remember reading a thing about mental rehearsal having physical effects so why compromise that as well?

>>3699879
thank you for the compliment. There Is a whole bunch of issues in it that leave me unsatisfied. mostly how poorly conceived and rendered it is. I seem to have fallen into a rut where my comfort zone is just doing things like this But the issue with pointing this out is the answer is so clear. I should just do better.

All things said though, thank you for the tips. To-do lists have worked for me before so I really do need to start doing it again. Your optimism is contagious anon. Good luck on your journey and enjoy your head start. the younger you start, the better

>> No.3700022

>>3693967
I never had a gf

>> No.3700028

>>3699887
Jesus it's sure nice to have a lot of disposable income

>> No.3700032

>>3699667
Just fucking get over it and get gud fuck me you women are fucking blind.

>hurr I wanna make my ex feel bad by getting gud
>sjdhjisus I wanna make nice picture that people like

The answer is clearly get fucking good, get over yourself or get kill yourself.

>> No.3700047

>>3693967
i hate my appearance so much i learned to draw to live vicariously through my work

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>>3700032
Confession.
>I’m not a woman
>just very hurt

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i just can't take it the pain anymore and i feel like giving up but i really don't wanna give up
the struggle never ends

>> No.3700056

>>3700047

you're beautiful anon. idc what you look like.

>> No.3700057

i've been drawing for 3 years and haven't had an original idea the entire time

>> No.3700105

>>3700053
Then my post applies twice as hard. Go do the thing or forever suffer your whore ex.

>> No.3700119

>>3695281
Just use a mouse if it gets the job done

>> No.3700122

>>3695555
Free? I haven't seen anyone share

>> No.3700131

>>3699879
different fag here with similar issues and age (26 in few months). I go through the 9-5 work day just thinking about painting, listening podcasts, I can have an imaginary Steve Huston lecture going inside my head for solid 8 hours. Then I get home, go to grocery store, walk my dog, warm up some dinner and it's 7pm. - I sit on my computer / drawing table and just feel so tired and don't know where to begin and what to do. On weekends it's a bit better.

Thanks for the tips and optimism.

>> No.3700137

>>3699858
>I push away from social invites and alienate anyone out of my immediate circle of family and one long-time friend
That may end up being a mistake. When you tunnel vision your life in that way towards only one thing, you also narrow down the source of creative inspiration. This is the cause of your art block.

You need stimulation to be creative. You need experiences, good and the bad, to have something to draw from. Art is a form of expression, but what will you express? What story will you tell? If you don't go out there and have experiences.

If you focus merely on productivity, you won't be happy. You're not a machine. Your best asset as an artist is your imagination. Don't try to starve that thing by putting yourself on rails between work and grind.

>> No.3700158

>>3693967
I love drawing extremely objectified women with either dark or caucasian skin with perfect abs. There I said it.

>> No.3700160

I have considered drawing porn of men in an effort to not appear sexist because of all my porn drawn of women.

>> No.3700162

I own a $500 huion Kamvas and spent less than 3 hours using it total. It felt awkward compared to an ipad and now I just use it as a second monitor.

>> No.3700177

>>3700022
How do I get over this?

>> No.3700199

>>3700177
Get a bf.

>> No.3700210

>>3700199
Where do I meet new people?
Right now I don't meet anyone at all and I don't know how to change that.

>> No.3700212

>>3700019
>yea but why force more social interaction when I'm stuck out all day.

Because hoomins are social animals. Isolation is bad for us on a chemical level. It doesn't matter if we like it or not.

If you had the self-discipline to make art (whether you feel like it or not) ingrained at to a subconscious level since childhood, you'd be making art right now since you wouldn't have these particular hangups. Since you've missed that boat and don't have anything FORCING you to do it (like you would, say, schoolwork), you have to work around that.

If you make positive emotional connections with people, your brain is going to get more feel-good chemicals. If you have more feel-good chemicals in your brain, you're going to feel at least a little bit better. If you feel at least a little bit better, you're more likely to actually try out things you'd like to do instead of just fantasizing about it.

I guess another way to put it is that people who gorge on pleasures like food, 4chan, fucking, and/or fdrugs are not happy people. The monotony makes their misery comfy. Comfy misery means no reason to leave that comfiness since then you'd have to put in actual effort. Stagnancy is the biggest motivation killer of all. Forming actual bonds helps get you out of that misery. Become addicted to friendship instead of /ic/ and you'll want to art more.

After you have friends and start arting, make it a stronger habit. Prioritize your time so your gainz are efficient as possible (having less time ironically makes you do more since you have to make the most of the time you do have). And keep going until you have some real discipline. Then hopefully if you lapse back into a friendless depression you'll still have that motivation and can keep arting.

>> No.3700225

>>3700158
you degenerate fucker!

>> No.3700268

>>3694298
What do you recommend?

Confession: I don't take the time to practice drawing even though I like it, my free time is scarce and I prefer sharpening knives.

>> No.3700321

>>3700162

Total beta who can't distinguish good tech, trash the iPad or noose yourself w the power cord you use for charging the pen

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I have all the free time in the world at the moment but I can't seem to do anything. Not art, not writing, not vidya, nothing.

>> No.3700356

>>3700348
start by having goals friend

>> No.3700547

>>3700348
That's called depression, Anon. Get your ass into therapy.

>> No.3700573

>>3700348
go talk to a therapist. you will learn things about yourself you never knew and your life will change.

clean your roooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmm!

>> No.3700590

I admire two artists but deep down I know I'm envious of them because they're infinitely better than myself and I just feel I won't be as good them

>> No.3700609

>>3700590
I used to be friends with a budding artist, but we lost contact.

Now they're really fucking good, and I see that as how good I could have potentially been had I not just sat around for a decade doing nothing.

It hurts.

>> No.3700651

>>3693967
I know I lack dedication and dont put enough time but I do nothing to adress it

>> No.3700654

>>3700348
get rid of the internet

>> No.3700697

>>3694026
I feel this on a spiritual level.

>> No.3700705

>>3700356
>>3700654
I'll try. Setting closer goals sounds like solid advice, and I do waste a lot of time on the Internet.
>>3700547
>>3700573
Perhaps. Maybe I should. I don't really feel depressed or anything, but at the same time I don't feel much to begin with. /blog

Thanks anons.

>> No.3700706

I collab'd with a 13 year old. Their line art is better than mine. =/

>> No.3700846

>>3699858
This anon, back again to say; venting in this thread literally gave me a second life. Like, Idk what it was but just expelling all my feelings let me process a lot that I was internalizing. I painted for hours last night in the dead silence after posing to my social, and it is some of the best work I've done in a long time. today I got the chance to relax with a friend and now I feel like charging back at it and putting out more awesome work

thank you based thread

>> No.3700882

I feel like I have the opposite problem of most. I'm highly driven and when I don't get the results I want I'm prone to bouts of depression. I grinded through colour theory and gesture and for years each and now have a solid grasp on them. Maybe colour more than gesture. But there's so much information available on both it's pretty easy to pick up and have friends crit you. What's pissing me off is just getting any meager grasp on storyboarding, Especially for comics. I'm studying films, I'm watching animation. But there's nothing I've found material wise other than "duh worms eye view makes duh person look big and scawey" extremely generic statements that lack any context. I had people tell me they look at webcomics to learn from and I'm sorry, just. No. A lot of them are the epitome of laziness and general amateurism. Where the hell do I go to learn how to actually compose frames and shots and explains all the proper hows and whys? I don't even know what to search. I should add, I know how to write, I write my own stories and work with a writer. It's translating this into pictures that I'm stuck on. I do have Scott MacLeod's books on making comics though I feel like where they gave me a basis now I need something more advanced.

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>>3696659
Weird, I am studying a STEM and dream with leaving it all for a drawing career all day from like 2 year now. When I draw time flies by and I dont feel hunger nor thirst. Maybe if you would have studied some STEM you would be feeling the same now. Think about it, you knew it would be like that because when you want to be an artist everybody make sure you know that you are gonna starve to death, yet you chose it because you love it so hard that you didn't let anyone to convince you. I was told that from child and I ended fearing to study art. Now I am trapped here, you at least are free.

Street dogs may not eat 3 meals a day but at least they are not caged in a house for the rest of their lives.

>> No.3700909

>>3699667
Stop letting your ex have power over you. And fucking block them everywhere jesus christ. Just try to let the whole thing go and focus on bettering yourself for your own self-worth rather than your ex's. Accept that you're not going to magically improve at art overnight and keep chipping away at it.

Also if she keeps pestering you and not leaving you be, that probably means you have as much of a hold over her as she does you. Honestly this shit is why I stay single.

>> No.3700989

I focused so much in learning how to paint my drawing skilss are way behind and even /beg level.

No I'm practicing learning to draw without color or rendering to catch up. I find frustrating knowing how to render but not drawing like shit.

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So... I'm doing my fundies and I just noticed that Loomi's ribcage simplificaton seems to be wrong.

It actually gets wider at the top yet a real ricage should get thiner. This is supposed to be a simplified skeleton, right? So what's going?

>> No.3701011

>>3699867
>Your brain needs social interaction to work at its best.
How do you know? Mine most definitely doesn't

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>>3693967
>look down on an artist everytime I ran across their art about 4 years ago
>see their art now the faces and color has improved so much
I'm so lost

>> No.3701126

>>3699667
Anon you need to learn how to be happy with where you are and what you have now, or you still won’t be satisfied even if/when you become “more successful” than them. Delete them from your life and move on.

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i draw porn of old men (60+) and post it in a fairly remote place and im somehow starting to gain a niche audience
help i dont know what to do

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>>3701157
>i draw porn of old men (60+) and post it in a fairly remote place and im somehow starting to gain a niche audience
elaborate

>> No.3701180

>>3700882
Assuming you're not larping, sometimes the reason you can't find material on a subject is because those with the knowledge intentionally (or unintentionally) obscure it so others cannot reach their levels. If you're as driven and skilled as you say you are, you have to transition into a mindset where you actively deconstruct what other's do from what they actually do and not what they publish. Some things you need to just jump in, experiment and make some mistakes. (And make sure to keep the best stuff for yourself).

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>>3701178
i think old men are hot (gay and hetero)
and apparently other people do too

>> No.3701188

>>3701187
...Blog?

>> No.3701201

>>3701188
not in a lifetime
considering shutting down whats up now

>> No.3701203

>>3701201
God damn it Anon my fetish is for dudes like 40+
You can't do this to me

>> No.3701245

>>3701157
Is that not the audience you want?

>> No.3701361

>>3700348
I feel very similar. But started working out recently, now i'm setting goals to improve my art skills or develop. Gl

>> No.3701365

Is using rotate tool a crutch?

>> No.3701387

>>3694799
Nicely put, anon.

>> No.3701396

>>3695643
You should stop masochistically comparing yourself to other people and their progress, anon.
Focus on what you excel at the most, only occasionally going out from your comfort zone to learn new things too.

>> No.3701397

>>3700705
>I don't feel much to begin with

Depression is mostly apathy after you've hit adulthood. Constant sadness is mostly a teen thing (with the hormones and all),

>> No.3701399

>>3701365
No, you can rotate the paper in traditional as well, it's just utilizing the optimal angle for your arm.

>> No.3701400

>>3701011
That's because you're autistic and don't have positive connections with anyone.

>> No.3701406

>>3701399
Never thought of that really. Is there a pic when to use your wrist, shoulder or elbow for efficiency?

>> No.3701417

>>3700905
not that anon but don't give up your STEM for a silly art course you moron. A STEM carreer will give you 10x stable job than being an artist unless you're sakimichan's patreon tier which I doubt you are. Keep art as a hobby, you won't regret it
>t. senior programmerfag

>> No.3701420

>>3701187
>>3701201
fuck you anon give me your blog

>> No.3701421

>>3693967
i sold my car to pay for a powerful enough pc to draw on

>> No.3701449

>>3700158
P-pls post.

>> No.3701461

>>3700160
Fucking kek, are fans really this sjw or why?

>> No.3701511

>>3700846
Bless you anon
I hope things keep getting better bit by bit

>> No.3702428

I started out drawing SFW and then slowly but surely entered the NSFW realm. It began as relatively 'vanilla' lewds, but now it's degraded into niche degenate fetishes. I don't think even the people who are into those fetishes would like my stuff.
So far I haven't posted my art/writing anywhere, and I don't think I ever will. The post-fap shame is too great.

>> No.3702715

I didn't get into a show/ contest thing. I know, the judge doesn't owe me anything, and it's not personal. It really just comes down to them not liking my submissions, hell even I wasn't entirely happy with what I submitted. And who even cares whether I get in or not, it doesn't detract from what art means to me, and what compels me to do it. But I don't know, even though I logically understand this, it still hurts. I can't help it. I've been feeling tons of self doubt recently, and I think deep down I really needed and wanted this affirmation that I was on the right path, that this was actually a noble pursuit. That I could prove to myself that I could I actually do this thing. But I have nothing to show for it. It hurts. And I know it's because I put all these expectations into it. I'm just going to try even harder. That's all I can do.

>> No.3703371

I haven't drawn in 6 months since my art buddy left and now I'm going to the priest

>> No.3703428

I feel bad for anyone that wants to make money with art. I've been there and done that. Changed to a profession where I like what I do and also have steady pay and I can draw whatever, whenever like I did when I was a kid. I come here to laugh at people.

>> No.3703663

>>3702428
>says Anon on the anonymous imageboard where anonymous users can post images and not have said images traced back to them unless they're retarded
>says Anon, when the internet allows them to post written works with pure anonymity

Clean the exif data and use a VPN if you're really that paranoid, but no one's going to bother digging up personal info on some rando that posts stuff without even trying to have a social media presence.

>> No.3703706

>>3694358
plenty, I fantasize with them sometimes.

>> No.3703901

I can't replicate my work from digital to traditional

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>>3693967
ive become too normie and hang out too much with art friends and im not spending enough time getting gud

im trying to remedy by doing schoolism courses alongside my art frenz and i rechannel the discipline and schedule i had years ago

>> No.3703907

>>3703905
also FUCK i have to get an insta/any social media account to regularly post my studies and use it as a journal for studying

>> No.3703918

>>3703907
I know it may seem appealing to do so, but I would be wary. If you do do it make sure you don't slip into mindless studying in an attempt to please a crowd rather than the sole intent of learning and getting better.

>> No.3703929

>>3703918
that is very true and a very real threat...

i'll do my best to uphold the integrity and importance of study - i just feel like i need accountability

>> No.3703952

I used to draw a lot of self-insert porn of myself doing shit with my now ex-gf
a LOT
did like a 15 page comic two years ago

>> No.3703954

I want to marry my artist bf but I secretly wonder how we are gonna feed our future kids

>> No.3703959

>>3703954
dont have children ecksdee

>> No.3703962

>>3703954
just draw food lmao

>> No.3703964

>>3693967
I find more joy reading and studying economics, history, philosophy and sociology than reading and drawing art now. The latter is more of a chore while I can't get enough of the former.

>> No.3703977

>>3693967
im not good with talking to people, not even online. in person or in text. When i get a compliment idk how to react and i overcompensate with '!' and emoticons

>> No.3704043

>>3703954
Sell your art materials lmao. If you marry an artist, you should accept that his/her income/commission monies can never sustain a single person in a month. I know this shit because i married my painter wife. I managed to loan and get her manage my printing/graphic design business so Shell be busy enough not to resort to camwhore on the net when her art thing doesn't sell more than a month.

>> No.3704377

>>3703959
is being an artist an evolutionary dead end?

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I tried drawing my own porn a few months ago. I made a four panel comic. It's in a sketchbook I planned on destroying, but haven't gotten around to doing so. I'm afraid something will happen and someone will find the sketchbook.

>> No.3705159

>>3703954
By cheating on him with me. You can come to me when you need comfort of a real man with 6 figures. I'll do things to you while he is busy thinking what brushes and strokes to make on a canvas.

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>>3693967
I understand that at my current pace and with my current motivations, level of output etc I am genuinely NGMI.
But I can't accept this and quit art and get a real job again, I've worked real jobs before and I don't think I'd last two years before ending everything.
I keep trying to build up momentum but it's like trying to start an engine that just won't stay going for long enough. On the rare occasions that I've got all cylinders firing, I burn out after a few months and get sick, insomnia, and other things.

I don't know what to do.
I don't know how much longer I can do this, I'm an adult now and I can feel my parents quiet disappointment and it crushes me. I don't think they'd kick me out, but being stuck here and feeling like this is slowly killing me.
I don't know what to do.

>> No.3705201

>>3703428
based

>> No.3705202

i lack the attention to read comics but im working on one

>> No.3705236

>>3695549
>tfw the computer does it for your working
>no one does it for you when your drawing
I felt that feel

>> No.3706863

>>3704043
Why'd you marry someone who would consider ho'ing herself if she has a real man who can take care of her (unless you're a poorfag cuck then nvm)

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I dont like my art

>> No.3706930

I've been on this board for 2 months now. I haven't even bought a pencil.

>> No.3706951

>>3703952
>having sex with girlfriend
bluepilled and cringed

>drawing yourself having sex with girlfriend and jacking off to that
redpilled and based

>> No.3706965

I am a christian, yet I drew lesbian porn in my ipad and I liked it. I havent' showed anyone tho.

>> No.3707168

I'm pro. I'm good at all trad media. If I see something another artist did that I really like, I just copy it for my own private collection.

I also post my copied versions and don't give credit. Lots of likes/follows. If somebody calls me out, they get blocked immediately.

>> No.3707173

>>3707168
Same. Feels good

>> No.3707176

>>3707168
Do you copy from good artists?

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I want to make art friends who don't mind my terrible skill level and want to do collabs and work together despite it, maybe even help eachother improve and generally be friendly. Not like the harsh art critics and general negative assholes you can get on here.

>> No.3707296

>>3707168
>>3707173
Are these shitposts or do you guys really do this?

>> No.3707664

>>3707176
Yes, but not necessarily famous for even professional artists.

Right now I'm painting a direct swipe of a huge George Condo painting that is going up in the main hall of my house.

But I have copied from some instagram tier fan artist who may have happened to get lucky with their composition on one particular day...

>> No.3707871

I asked someone for permission to use their picture as reference for something no one will ever see and they said no, so I did it anyway.

I don't know why I even ask anymore. It's like the ones that say yes ask about royalties, as if that's real lmao, and the ones that say no feel ugly and don't want people looking at a photo of them for too long.

>> No.3707878

>>3706882
Me neither.

>> No.3710005

>>3693967
in my many years of here ive never read the sticky and all i draw is a combination of shameful anime and tits. my visual library is so stagnate.

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>>3695066

Ngmi unironically.

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>>3699858

You sound like me like me before I went to gnomon, my advice, get these 3 books and do them daily/weekly in conjunction with draw a box.

1 how to draw Scott robertson
2 how to render Scott as well
3 Simplyfying perspective by Bob Pastrana

Number 3 is VERY Good, Bob is a great guy and most importantly a great teacher.

After you finish these 3 you can supplement your weaknesses buy buying books that relate (anatomy, animation, color theory whatever).

Always challenge yourself, but don't burn yourself, if you start hating art it defeats the purpose of doing it.

Don't push those close to you away for a shitty career, there is no honor in the (professional) art industry, people won't value you for your great skill or personality/loyalty, the second you are not profitable they will throw you out like a stray dog, your family won't.

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>>3693967
I've never finished reading a book I've started. The farthest I've been is half through fun with a pencil. I would read Vilppu but studying is boring as fuck and makes me sad. Don't want to go back to the grind

>> No.3710057

Tl;Dr dirty noob complains about boring commissions.
I hate commission work because it takes me away from my passion project, but when I work on my passion project I’m crushed by how far away I am from my goal.
The comms I’m getting aren’t particularly creative either, it’s mostly portraits or scenes of a client’s OCs for some kind of highschool drama thing she’s working on. I don’t feel motivated so the process drags on a lot longer than it otherwise would.
I’ve never published a commission sheet so what I think I should do is learn to draw faster and bump my prices up before I announce to all my followers that comms are open. I agreed to doing 5 “characters,” medium detail for $90. I’ll definitely be bumping my prices in the future, starting with double. Lessons learned and shit.

>> No.3710402

I fap to my drawings sometimes.

>> No.3710403

>>3710402
>>3694358

>> No.3710413

>>3700321
You clearly have never used an ipad pro.
It shits all over huion tablets.
Same software as my desktop (csp) with tech that is way more natural and convenient.

>> No.3710414

>>3694358
Not possible for me.
I see everything wrong with it as I go.
I sometimes get an erection when working on a drawing because the mental image I have as I draw is hot, but I can’t fap at that point. Gotta use the sexual energy to channel into my drawing.

>> No.3710415

>>3710414
Why not just fap after drawing?

>> No.3710573

>>3707168
Fucking based.

>> No.3711116

>>3700160
Fuck the people who oppose what gender you choose. If you find women bodys amazing and something you love drawing, do it.

>> No.3711124

I'm not gonna make it.

>> No.3711183
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I swear to God im not working for anyone anymore until they agree to sign this contract. This is getting ridiculous. EVERY MONTH i waste hours composing polite e-mails basically begging for a payment to be made. What the fuck is wrong with people? If you don't have money to pay me, just don't. Hire. Me.

>> No.3711190

>>3711183
Dude, at LEAST 50 percent up front. That's absolutely standard.

>> No.3711200

>>3711183
You need to have them deposit to you x% amount of cash before drawing.

>> No.3711203

>>3711183
what are you going to do if they dont pay?
i also think 30 days is too long, anyone will forget anything in that time period.

and... you probably work with kids, thats whats wrong with those people

>> No.3711208

>>3711190
>>3711200
No one has agreed to this so far
>>3711203
They're "very serious" creative agencies. And 30 days really isn't long to me anymore, I've been receiving payments 60 days overdue. I think the longest I waited was when I did an infographic comission in the beginning of September and only got paid two weeks ago.

Does anyone know some kind of forum for freelancers where I could blacklist those that didn't pay on time?

>> No.3711249

>>3711208
>No one has agreed to this so far
To 50% upfront? Stop taking shit clients. Everyone does it, it's industry standard.

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>>3693967
I fucking hate art and I hate artists.

I just want to be an illustrator or a concept artist, not an "artist". I've been doing an access course for a couple months now, and I'm on a unit focused on "experimental painting". You know, shit like Richter and Pollock. This unit is graded, yet I spent 40+ hours on pic related in a previous unit around drawing, which was actually useful and enjoyable and produced nice-looking work throughout the class, but that was ungraded.

I went into this pro-modern contemporary. I liked its elitism and its vanguardism, but I've reverted back to hating it and gone full Roger Scruton. It's probably why I like this board so much, since you see actual talent producing great stuff alongside people who want to learn a craft that is orderly, refined and takes skill.

>> No.3711256

>>3711253
Most pretentious thing I've ever read on this board.

>> No.3711258

>>3711256
You haven't been here long enough then. Tell me what was pretentious about it.

>> No.3711260

>>3711256
You gonna expand on that then dickhead, or what? You responded pretty quick.

>> No.3711269

>>3711208
See >>3711249 I’ve never had a serious client who didn’t pay me at least 50% up front, the only exception being a restaurant owner for whom I was already on payroll for(anyone here will tell you that hourly isn’t a good idea, so it’s not a preference). Maybe you’re in another league but I jumped from doing $50-60 comms to now taking $80, $150, to even $300 comms from a few regulars.
Clients that don’t pay might as well not be clients at all, literally nothing lost by sticking to standards.

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>>3693967
I have skill and some "talent" cultivated over years of doing art as a kid and adolescent but now I'm late 20s and jobless because of mental illness. (inb4 pyw, I've posted a throwaway male study I haven't posted elsewhere) Making money off of art is tough when you have low af self-esteem and the ngmi attitude built in. I don't have the hustle I should have about it. I started taking anti-depressants a few months ago and I don't have a sex drive at all anymore and my creativity is at an all time low. Imagine a life without orgasms. I sleep more than 12hrs a day because my dreams are way more fun than my real life. I finally applied for a job recently and didn't get it because of an "assessment". I need to start making money because student loans are a bitch. These are not art degree loans. I don't even have *that* much money in student loans, just enough to be a thorn in my side and I can't pay them without an income. I've already asked for a deferment or lower payments or whatever but they give me the run-around because technically I have made SOME money on art (less than 1k in two years) but it's not a predictable income and they want hard numbers I can't give them. I just want to sell some art ffs but I don't know how. I would literally give someone a fair cut of my profits if they could sell it for me but how do I find such people.
>tldr I am in a rut in life, have some skills but lack the motivation to flourish with art. don't bother telling me to kms because anti-depressants prevent me from doing so and I actually want to get better and make a dime or two to keep my head above water.

>> No.3711320

>>3711291

Go where the money is. Draw furries.

>> No.3711336

I finally stopped procrastinating in learning to draw a few days ago because I wanted to draw my waifu perfectly in pretty dresses and also tired of reading good doujins which didn't have certain angles that I find absolutely hot

>> No.3711356

>>3711320
thank you kind anon. I will put dog ears and a dog tail on my nude studies and profit hard.

>> No.3711361

>>3711269
Dude im not talking 50-300$, dafuq do you do? Draw porn? Im talking 500-800€. There's no way those cunts will just give me 250€-400€ in advance straight out of their pockets. Next time I think im gonna try 20% but how exactly does this help in my case, I don't know. I'm hired by agencies, which means I take a percentage of what they're paid by the client. I worked in an agency, I know how this works. First the CEO pays their employees because they have no other form of income and then they pay the freelancers, because they have other clients who can sustain them after all.

Admittedly I had one client who proposed the split payment himself and this was the most wholesome and honest person I've ever worked for, the only one I knew that paid the invoice the very day I sent it to them.

>> No.3711376

>>3711291
Your main problem is your attitude towards life. Only you can change the direction of your life, find anything negative in your life and remove it. Give your life purpose. You blame your problems on mental illness instead taking the blame on yourself. Accept where you are, move on and make every day a day of selfimprovment. Selling is business and nobody's going to buy from some depressed, self loathing faggott. Ie: life was never meant be easy, you can either dwell on your past or move forward to a brighter tomorrow.

>> No.3711379

>>3711376
thank you anon. I needed to hear that.

>> No.3711635

I keep thinking about my cringey attempts at anime before learning the fundamentals and I don't know how to stop judging myself so harshly for something I did in the past.

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>>3711361
I draw portraits and OCs for mostly college kids and small youtubers, not porn. I’m relatively new at this and don’t have a large audience yet, but eventually I’ll get to the point where you’re at.
>mfw $1000 deal to make a 5 page comic
>mfw client agrees eagerly in person but flakes when I send him the invoice
People can be cruel sometimes.

>> No.3711712

>>3711336
I can heavily relate. It's sad how you try to look for perfect porn art bit very little to none exist for characters. Now ill create.

>> No.3711751

>>3694332
1h of grinding for every dollar spent and you will be forgiven, son.

>> No.3711767

>>3711751
>tfw suddenly realize why repenting works for people

thank you based drawing father

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>>3711689
>mfw lied to some retard about paying 200$ a page, didn't sign a contract and the fucker though I would actually pay the invoice

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I didn’t start the comm because the 50% wasn’t paid. Nothing lost except a little bit of innocence. Thanks Sean.

>> No.3711816

>>3711812 at >>3711787

>> No.3711826

I literally only draw anime. I'm nowhere near good at it and it takes me forever to shit out even the most basic, crude sketch because I never went through any artbooks to learn construction. I never went through any tutorials on how to use and operate SAI or CSP either. I jumped straight into digital and started copying artists I like, using the default brushes.

Im basically a retard

>> No.3711912

>>3700905
Well if you're going to regret your choices either way, you might as well eat well in the meantime.

>> No.3712116

>>3693967
I have the sekrits to animu art and no one really believes it, but I can't share it anyway. Sharing it with my friends might have done nothing but recently I saw two of them doing higher quality work so maybe it finally clicked. I want you guys to draw the same shit over and over, you don't know what you're doing at all and that's going to make my life as an artist easier. The less competition the better.

>> No.3712125

>>3700177
look up how to make a fleshlight or buy one

>> No.3712153
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>>3693967
I haven't posted anything in my blog for more than 1 month. 4-5 drawings per month was an average.

>> No.3712174

>>3711826
Bro use proko. He has great videos that can help you start out. He uses the loomis approach. You can take what you know from there and look up other artists with yt tuts and maybe find a simplified version.

>> No.3712332

>>3711712
That was the feeling here too, I'm currently learning the fundamentals from that right side of the brain book and at negative space drawing chapter where I have been stuck practicing a lot because of severe case of perfectionistic autism mindset. The only thing that's making me work this hard after a long time is because I don't want to be in the mercy of other artists fanart for my waifu and doujins with angles that don't make me cum.

>> No.3712352

I've purchased cintiq 27 qhd year and a half ago and have barely used it, I'm too lazy to set it down so its used as monitor all the time...
I also find it too big and cumbersome, should have gotten a Cintiq16 pro instead..

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>>3703962

>> No.3712736

>>3712116
Pls gib I just want to draw things for myself not other people

>> No.3712739

>>3712352
I think I'd use my cintiq 50x more if I had a egrotron attached to it. Its such a pain to have to shift my chair and back to my desk to draw on it. But I'd have to by a table also because my desk is glass.

>> No.3712765

>>3712739
Mine is attached to an arm too, which is why it's so comfy to use as monitor

>> No.3713501

>>3712765

I'm afraid of that happening...

I think the worst offender is the keyboard placement. I either have to tuck the keyboard behind the stand and it's just awkward and hard to reach, just so I can push the tablet forward or keep they keyboard in front but push the tablet backward which hurts my back.

https://cintweak.com/ I went ahead and bought a tray as the final solution.

>> No.3713601

>>3694358
It turns me on but not enough to stop what i'm doing and plow myself

>> No.3713611

>>3693967
I'm a retarded college student going into a general visual arts major and idk what i'm gonna do yet. I have a p good resume but it's stressful to think about sometimes because idk if I'll be able to support myself. I tried applying to jobs in my area but all turned me down when they realized i'm rarded. I don't want my s/o to have to support me but i'm not good at much else besides art. Maybe being a teacher, but it's times like this that make me wish I could be the good-at-math retard. The future scares me.

>> No.3714907

I'm practicing I guess but I think my imagination is malfunctioning or something because I cant conjure up images of stuff I actually want to draw. I can only draw from reference right now. I just wanna be able to take any shape and have enough creativity to make something out of it but I just cant. I dont even know why I'm doing this anymore....

>> No.3714940

I hate when people compliment my art. I always feel like they're lying to be nice or get free art

>> No.3716306

>>3706882
are you HC Brown

>> No.3716363

>>3706882
Blog?

>> No.3717484

>In secondary school
>awkward kid, too retarded to keep friends
>had a really cool english teacher, everyone liked him, saw the good in everyone
>got good grades in him class.. would always play characters in what i would write
>I'd go red and shy every time he sat near me to mark my book. I couldn't help myself.
>I wanted to be like him... to be him. So I tried to make more friends, be more sociable.
>one day we had to research some feminist bullshit and read a really long essay
>I, obsessed with impressing him, read the whole thing and made some over the top article
>he thought i was being serious and not just playing another character
>kept thinking i was a manhater for the rest of the year, until he left
>now the teacher I had a crush on thinks i'm a tumblr degenerate
>stuck here with you incels as self-flagellation.

>> No.3717493

>>3717484
>had crush on
O nigga u gey

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>>3693967
I started drawing porn with MLP
and now a friend of mine got me into scalies

>> No.3718184

>>3711361
>There's no way those cunts will just give me 250€-400€ in advance straight out of their pockets
but they will if that's the only way to get you started and they're serious

the only person keeping you from money is you for taking clients that you think are serious enough to give you a large sum in the end but peanuts at the beginning

>> No.3719571

>>3696674
Everything's been said as well, is that a reason never to open your mouth?

>> No.3720093

I'm shit and can't improve

>> No.3720427

i'm great

>> No.3720484

>>3693967
I don't start off with basic shapes and lines when I'm drawing. I just "go with the flow."

>> No.3722849

>>3707871
I know reddit is hated here and that's fine, I get it, but there's a subreddit called "reddit gets drawn" where people post pics of themselves asking artists to use them for reference. So there's that, in case you haven't heard of it.

>> No.3723035

I've been repeating 'Tomorrow for sure' for 3 years now.

>> No.3723042

>>3694358
That's a sin. You don't have sex with your child right?

>> No.3723046

>>3723042
Depends if I make an ugly child or not.

>> No.3723052

>>3693967
when someone says "I would love x thing in your art style!" I never draw it so I may commissioned to do it :X

>> No.3723056

I thought writers always had it stupid easy and it wasn't important. Then I tried writing for my own thing.

>> No.3723064

>>3693967
I used to be a serial tracer when it came to making art. I'd find the most obscure references possible and go through so many hoops just to make sure nobody would even suspect that it was traced. Sometimes I'd change so much about what I would copy that it'd arguably be easier to start from scratch.
Eventually one day I got caught. Not a callout post or anything, just a single comment that recognized the artist I'd stolen from. I felt so much shame that just a few minutes after that comment I deleted my entire gallery without saying anything. I spent the rest of the time since then vowing to not take the easy way out and actually working towards improving my artistic skill.

>> No.3723074

>>3723064
Holy fuck lmao. That guy will remember forever the time a single comment made an artist tear down his entire social media presence.

>> No.3723174

i'm gonna make it :)