Traditional General

[Anonymous No.3468067]

Post traditional work. Ask questions. Whatever. Digital art done plein air doesn't count for anything so don't post it.

[Anonymous No.3468070]

>>3468067
made this one today too, both of these are oil paintings

[Anonymous No.3468076]

>>3468067
whats wrong with plein air?

[Anonymous No.3468078]

>>3468067
About a year in, critique?

[Anonymous No.3468079]

>>3468067
>Ask questions
what do you mean by "traditional"
>Digital art done plein air doesn't count for anything so don't post it.
who does this but rich hipster kids in coffee shops

[Anonymous No.3468089]

>>3468079
>what do you mean by "traditional"
physical objects. Paintings, sculptures, drawings, anything done using traditional medium.

Basically just not digital art. Sorry if that excludes you.

[Anonymous No.3468095]

>>3468078
you need to level up your drawing skills more, do you have any examples of recent pencil, pen, or charcoal work?

[Anonymous No.3468124]

stop hating me, people

[Anonymous No.3468126]

>>3468095
These would be my most presentable. Havent spent much time learning as I do studying reference. Think All I do is sketch tho not sure.

[Anonymous No.3468131]

>>3468095
>>3468126
And my more recent painting progress.

[Anonymous No.3468135]

>>3468126
>>3468131
in my opinion bro don't ever stop cause you're gmi

[Anonymous No.3468140]

>>3468135
Thats great to hear. Just moved into my truck to move to part-time work and renting a garage starting next month in a house to set up a proper work area.

[Anonymous No.3468272]

One of my first attempts to paint something with gouache. I'm really loving this medium.

[Anonymous No.3468357]

>>3468272
good example on use of detail, this is very nice.
>>3468067
>>3468070
also very nice brian. I like the last one best.
>>3468131
Looks pretty good. are these photo refs?

picrelated is wip plein air. adding detail next time.

question: I'm going for a 3 day hike in the mountains, anyone gone camping with painting equipment? carrying wet paintings around etc.

[Anonymous No.3468366]

WIP, it takes me forever to get anything done. Currently being reworked cause I "fixed it" till I fucked it up again.

[Anonymous No.3468367]

>>3468272
p. cool and relaxing, good job anon

>>3468131
good choice of colors, very expressive

>>3468078
bot left is nice

pic related is a new style I'm practicing, rip me up

[Anonymous No.3468370]

>>3468367
>rip me up
bunch of random stuff thrown together to look like art. The sky is interesting, tho.
>>3468366
I like it, but with different colors and more blurred edges it would look more refined.

[Anonymous No.3468373]

>>3468367
I kind of like the square lines too
>>3468370

[Anonymous No.3468379]

>>3468370
>and more blurred edges it would look more refined.

I keep going back and forth on that. On one hand I want the impression for fabric (ergo the crispish lines on the folds), but i see also where smoothing the lines might improve it a bit too.

I agree about the color, it is a little ham fisted, but it is still in progress. The important thing to me is to get it finished, and keep painting.

[Anonymous No.3468401]

>>3468379
I think you have to blur to make it look interesting and more refined. The colors aren't that bad, really, they work pretty good together.

>>3468357
this is mine, it's way too blurry. It's not a good example of what I'm trying to say.

[Anonymous No.3468419]

>>3468401
Thanks for the feedback, I've got some time this weekend to do a spate of painting (wage slave), and I'll definitely keep in mind your suggestions.

By ham-fisted, I mean that they are fairly saturated, and I think I could get some variation of light and dark in there to increase visiual interest.

Also are you using a pallet knife? Just curious cause I like the kind of scraped texture on the trees.

[Illastrat No.3468438]

I am the best on the forums

[Illastrat No.3468443]

>>3468124
Chun, that’s your first paint I genuinely like by u in a while. Colors are on point, anatomy is good, forms are good, values good. Love the black with the saturated colors. This is good. I see your classes are paying off.

[Anonymous No.3468444]

>>3468443
hahahaha what

[Illastrat No.3468451]

>>3468444
It is good. Y’all hating on chun disingenuously if you don’t like this painting

[Anonymous No.3468472]

>>3468367
pretty cool, reminds me of the cars in the desert that stand straight up. If you are a schizo I bet you could sell this on the streets of San Fransisco .

[Illastrat No.3468478]

>>3468472
I don’t really like it. Too “deviant”

[Anonymous No.3468497]

Couple dumb things from a depressing weekend

[Anonymous No.3468500]

>>3468497
Gonna attempt to turn this into a graphic

[Anonymous No.3468503]

>>3468500
Last one, starting a painting pls crit, pretty early on but im feeling a bit directionless with it. Maybe try some vertical brush strokes to balance out or contrast the diagonal strokes in the sky

[Illastrat No.3468507]

>>3468497
I like the rendering. Very Toulouse-lautrecequse.

[Anonymous No.3468518]

>>3468419
yes, I used the knife for scraping and also for applying and blending. I'm having trouble with brushes being too "accurate"

[Anonymous No.3468667]

>>3468124
Chun i'll trade you this painting for that one. I want to hang it in my room

[Anonymous No.3468676]

>>3468067
>>3468078
>>3468126
i'm gonna be straight forward with you and it's probably going to come across harsh. But you are on /ic/, because you paint like you paint, if you know what I mean. You also need the attention of that anonymous autistic crowd on here, for some reason. You have a style that is off the chart, not in a good way.

I don't think it is good for you to expose yourself to the /ic/ crowd, because of the level you are on and because /ic/ simply isn't open for artists in traditional media that are trying to find a way for themselves that isn't just "grinding fundies" or, in you case, artists that are stuck in a phase and running in circles style-wise.

[Anonymous No.3468677]

I haven't painted anything in years and usually just draw digitally. Does something this resonate with you guys at all?

[Anonymous No.3468690]

>>3468676
I'm not sure what you mean?

[Anonymous No.3468693]

>>3468667
it's quite flattering Brian that you would want to hang my painting in your room.

I want to submit it to a competition, so probably not right now, but I can see us two exchanging works in the future. Thank you!

[Anonymous No.3468695]

>>3468690
it's like a first year painting student tries to shove his paintings into everyones face in a pedestrian area. you have so much to learn, so little self-reflection and poor self-assessment. it isn't good for you to upload each picture you (haven't even) finished on here. it is only confusing you. you need more time finding what you want to achieve.

[Anonymous No.3468701]

>>3468695
>you need more time finding what you want to achieve.
I want to achieve a style that looks like I'm painting Claymation. That's the style I've been trying to achieve forever. Not much more to it than that. Occasionally I succeed.

[Anonymous No.3468724]

>>3468676
I'm using this board mainly to find harsh critique. In a couple years I am confident that I will have a set style that will hopefully be palletable to normies as well as fine artists. I don't need an autistic following, but people are usually honest here.

[Anonymous No.3468728]

>>3468701
If that is what you wanted to achieve, I have to say I was never reminded of claymation in any way. It lacks the plasticity, thickness and peculiarity of the look of clay. all that shows is that you have a mannerism going of painting the same face over and over again (circle cheeks, also circle tits by the way, thin eyes, flat). you are often content with a rough brush stroke that isn't doing anything for the painting except for "color it in, so the background isn't coming through". the composition in your paintings is all over the place, non-harmonic and the paintings feel cut off. for instance, in that one with the three or more nude women, the brush strokes in the background seem timid and "careful not to paint over the edge" in a way.

there are just too many beginners mistakes at this point, most of which you don't even register as such. either it was you or someone else, but someone defended their work because "the teachers at my uni loved it". this is only showing everyone that a school can't turn you into an artist, if you haven't got the base for it worked out.

[Anonymous No.3468753]

>>3468728
I'm the guy that posted the first two in the thread... not chun. This is an example of what I mean with claymation, the way I painted the house in the background is pretty close to the style I'd like across a whole painting. I'd actually say I'm pretty versatile

[Anonymous No.3468820]

Oil on canvas

[Anonymous No.3469150]

>>3468070
hey I've used this pic as reference before

[Anonymous No.3469164]

>>3468677
tight shit, love it alot

>>3468753
you are really talented, anon. keep up the good work!

[Anonymous No.3469266]

>>3469164
thanks, painted this today too
>>3469150
must be popular, I thought she took it herself

[Anonymous No.3469612]

[Anonymous No.3469628]

>>3469612
you should do more figures

[Anonymous No.3469635]

>>3469266
Do you use references?

[Anonymous No.3469656]

>>3469628
I always do figures

[Anonymous No.3469832]

Acrylic on canvas

[Anonymous No.3469834]

>>3468677
Wow, I like it anon, keep working

[Anonymous No.3470084]

>>3468677
I feel like this would be better with another medium, like serigraphy or something

[Anonymous No.3470231]

>>3469832
That's amazing, do you do alot of commisions? Have much exposure?

[Anonymous No.3470238]

>>3470084
>serigraphy
TIL serigraphy is the more formal name for screen printing. The issue with screen printing is that it's a lot more involved and I can't really be arsed to do all that. >>3468677 is made fairly quickly & easily with acrylics, sharpie & paint markers.

[Anonymous No.3470296]

>>3470231
No, not much desu, but i’m working hard. Thanks for feedback.

[Anonymous No.3470552]

I studied Courbet’s landscapes while working on this one

[Anonymous No.3470560]

>>3468753
I remember you. Why don’t You post more often, and try to crowd out Illustrat’s shit?

[Anonymous No.3470570]

>>3468124
You don’t even post that often anymore.

[Anonymous No.3470753]

>>3470560
I post in the generals. just finished this self portrait

[Anonymous No.3470907]

>>3470753
Are you perusing art as a career or hobby?

[Anonymous No.3470915]

>>3470907
A relatively low key career. Not trying to be famous, just make a living at it

[Anonymous No.3470923]

Been doing a bunch of acrylic landscapes lately.

[Anonymous No.3470979]

>>3470915
Cool well good luck. Thats my goal as well, I figure I could live on 20k (been living on 17 in western Washington near Seattle). How are you feeling about the feasibility of you making a living off it?

[Anonymous No.3471049]

>>3470923
that is really nice. do you use photo refs?

[Anonymous No.3471080]

>>3469612
revised

[Anonymous No.3471374]

Any of you guys had luck selling? I don't even know where to start.

[Anonymous No.3471396]

>>3471080
You should abandon this impasto-multicolor shit style and focus on the other style you have. This doesn’t get you anywhere at all. It is chaotic in the unflattering sense.
I have a friend who used to work at a care home for the insane and this “style” reminds me of what they used to paint and draw there. So please stop this madness and return to the sane style you have.

[Anonymous No.3471601]

plein air, oil on board, worked out the composition from several watercolour sketches first

[Anonymous No.3471702]

>>3471374
This is really interesting. The factory doesn't seem to be our focus though.

[Anonymous No.3471721]

Painted this apple. Not super happy with it. About to start another one.

[Anonymous No.3471878]

>>3471721
nice, i find values very difficult.

[Anonymous No.3471885]

>>3471702
Ya, I got carried away with the idea of what i was doing and didn't think about composition. I wanted to paint something multiple times, and have it be complex enough that you can compare and contrast mistakes.

[Anonymous No.3471928]

>>3471885
>and have it be complex enough that you can compare and contrast mistakes.
no mistakes, only rules, of which there are none, and tools

[Anonymous No.3472032]

Painted this

[Anonymous No.3472034]

>>3471878
Thanks.

just finished pic related. Different apple, light b/g. I'm happier with this one but not satisfied

[Anonymous No.3472069]

>>3471049
Yeah, I'm always taking pictures for paintings. My library grows over time while I try to keep a perpetual state of painting, so I'm always planning for the next.

[Anonymous No.3472077]

>>3472032
made the sand look like sand and took a better photo

[Anonymous No.3472085]

>>3471080
where that style is now, is nowhere. either you take it somewhere / to the nextlevel, or you pop it in the bin.

[Anonymous No.3472088]

>>3472077
You should use a lighter blue instead of removing the blue all together. Also, maybe use heavier brush strokes leading into lighter as you lead into background to help with perceived depth.

[Anonymous No.3472102]

>>3472088
Usually I tend towards form for fading into the background. Same size brush, but direction of strokes changing from vertical to horizontal as it gets farther back, but you're right I could probably exaggerate that effect more by changing brush size too as I recede

[Anonymous No.3472120]

>>3471396
>>3472085
this style is my greatest asset

[Anonymous No.3472134]

>>3472102
Alternately, you could warm up the foreground too.

[Anonymous No.3472146]

>>3472134
Because warm colors come forward? That's pretty smart, anon

[Anonymous No.3472158]

>>3472069
If I'm being brutally honest I think using photo ref more or less invalidates the painting. You're good at it though.

[Anonymous No.3472193]

I did more to this older painting of mine

[Anonymous No.3472215]

>>3472146
I'm not that smart, but I do have a bachelors in painting if that makes you feel better.

[Anonymous No.3472225]

>>3472193
my favorite so far brian

I'm the guy who usually comments on the realism in your paintings and this one is kind of incredible

[Anonymous No.3472300]

>>3472193
How do you achieve the long thin outlines? Wait till the paint is tacked up?

[Anonymous No.3472308]

>>3468753
eat a bullet brian

[Anonymous No.3472323]

>>3472225
>>3472300
>>3472308
thanks. yeah you gotta wait for it to dry, im going into all my old paintings and sprucing them up. also no sir I will not eat a bullet.

here's a small update to it compositionally

[Anonymous No.3472358]

>>3472323
Your work looks like Gaugin’s would have if he had actually learned to paint.

[Anonymous No.3472362]

>>3472358
also im not a pedophile

just updated this painting

[Anonymous No.3472367]

>>3472362
I like your work. I would never think to us color the way you do. Keep it up

[Anonymous No.3472452]

>>3472367
thanks. last one for tonight

[Anonymous No.3472455]

>>3468366
i don't like the blue haze that you've washed around the drapery, especially how it interacts with the background.
But I do really like the feeling of the piece. You should look at how Dali paints his backgrounds. I think if you could get that kind of crispyness in your pieces it would really stand out.

[Anonymous No.3472514]

Trying to start drawing again after taking a long break and I'm having a hard time loosening the grip on my pencil. I think it's because my drawing surface is small and my pencil is waxy and light so I'm overcompensating but if anyone knows of any ways to loosen up I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to use my elbow more.
Also if anyone knows of any good alternatives to col erase pencils, which I'm currently using, let me know.

[Anonymous No.3472522]

>>3472514
hold it like this

[Anonymous No.3472558]

>>3472452
pretty nice painting, awesome colors.

[Anonymous No.3472619]

>>3468667
>>3472193
>>3472323
have you ever looked at odilon redon's work? the way you outline things really reminds me of him.

[Anonymous No.3472654]

>>3472619
>>3472323
>>3472362
As someone that oil paints and doesn't outline, can someone explain why these black lines are being added? They're a conscious choice, but for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.3472664]

>>3472034
try playing with your edges more, especially oftening them a bit in the shadow side. also i think the reflected light in the shadow side might be a tiny bit too high value. looks good tho senpai nice shapes

[Anonymous No.3472667]

>>3472158
snib snab

[Anonymous No.3472672]

>>3472654
it's just a design choice
in the redon piece i posted the hardness of the line contrasts with the softness of the pinks and yellows of the shell, highlighting both the subtlety of the color and the careful confidence of the linework. At the same time it creates an almost photographic flatness, as if the shell were illuminated by a camera flash, which given the painterly nature of the work gives it an especially dreamy quality.

[Anonymous No.3472714]

>>3472120
You need to ask yourself why you do this. You add more and more layers of paint. It doesn’t improve the painting, instead the face is like a clown mask.

You say this is your greatest asset? Come on. If you are this delusional you are never gonna make it as an artist.

[Anonymous No.3472718]

>>3472452
I like your use of colors. Keep working.

[Anonymous No.3472719]

>>3472714
not him but i don't think the layering or style itself is a problem, it reminds me a bit of willem de kooning.
however i do agree that the clown mask face is extremely distracting and makes it impossible to actually look at the rest of the painting, which is unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.3472721]

>>3468367
looks like a shallow imitation of basquiat.

[Anonymous No.3472730]

>>3472719
Yes, but de Kooning blended and worked his colors in a way that worked. Chun’s style doesn’t.

[Anonymous No.3472734]

>>3472730
my friend who is an artist says the painting (anna i) is one of best i did in a long while and i should do more in this style

[Anonymous No.3472737]

>>3472734
I have a bachelor in Fine Arts and I disagree.

[Anonymous No.3472747]

>>3472730
i agree with you
>>3472734
it would be so much better if you just didn't put flat dots on the eyes and nose. anon was right, it looks clownish
like just looking at the thumbnail the values are decent but looking at it fullsize the dots on the face soak up all the focus and look very juvenile

[Anonymous No.3472927]

>>3472323
not a fan of how the outlines are done in this painting, while it works for the other 2, there is something about them here that completely grabs my eye and I cant look past them

[Anonymous No.3473274]

unicorn

[Anonymous No.3473360]

did more to this

[Anonymous No.3473372]

>>3472927
how about this one?

[Anonymous No.3473409]

>>3473372
dang b. how often do you paint?
the lighting works well on her arm, but the entire lower two thirds look so lazily done
love you anyways

[Anonymous No.3473461]

>>3473409
im just going into older paintings and finishing them, I usually wait a few months before I finish stuff cause I have a better idea of what I want to do with a piece. I finished this one, someone said they want to buy it so hopefully I can make a sale

[Anonymous No.3473511]

>>3472158
I'm from a place that happens to have a long history of plein air painting / hudson river school influence and having passed through the anus of academia, I've heard that using photo refs aren't real painting a million times. I don't intend to justify whether my reffed paintings do in fact stand as legitimate paintings, because to me in my experience there is no difference between life drawing and using a photo reference.That's not to say that I have anything against painting from observation, but when I get home from work, I would rather spend more time thinking about the painting itself over the subject that I am painting. For me, a photograph is a way of resolving just about any problem that stands before me and the subject.

I work at a place that has artists/collectors/enthusiasts coming in every day and I like to talk to these people about art and often times it leads to how they make it. The best working-artists paint from life / observation. They'll go out on a hike early in the morning and get to where the light is just right for the perfect view, or they'll run out to a favorite spot when the clouds are just right, and they'll just to a shit ton of predatory paintings and sketches without even touching a final piece. In the evening they'll go back to their home studio where they will stitch it all together over the coarse of weeks or months, often returning to their space for more sketches or studies. Betsy Shmoe on the other hand will just snap a picture and go home and paint it. She doesn't really have the time to commit to such an endeavor, nor does she have the training. It's not so much a question of her commitment to art, or if she is making legitimate art pieces. She just wants to make a pretty picture and do her best. In that regard, I am Joe Shmoe. I gotta go to work and at the end of the day I need to paint. I'm going to take the quickest route from A to Acrylic Painting, and if that's using photographs, then i'm using photographs.

[Anonymous No.3473539]

>>3473511
It's very difficult to pinpoint exactly what my problem is with using photo ref. I can't put my finger on what I don't like about it. A lot of times I can tell there was a photo being used by a certain realism in perspective etc that just doesn't sit right with me. But if that is what works best for you, I think that's perfectly fine. People do things differently.

[Anonymous No.3473621]

>>3473461
did this plein air today

[Anonymous No.3473800]

>>3473372
You like to paint midgets?

[Anonymous No.3473801]

>>3473800
>shortstack

[Anonymous No.3473825]

>>3468367
Thanks for th input. Gonna work on it tonight and tomorrow, and if this thread is still up on sunday afternoon I'll post an update.

As it is before starting with the un-fucking.

[Anonymous No.3473855]

>>3473800
yes

I fixed up this old portrait I did of a girl from tinder

[Anonymous No.3473866]

>>3473409
Not the guy you replied to but can you explain what about it looks bad? I have an untrained eye and I'm trying to figure it out

[Anonymous No.3473872]

>>3473855
did more to this too

[Anonymous No.3473941]

>>3473855
Did she pose for that?

[Anonymous No.3473949]

>>3473941
yeah, that's the only one she sat for though

[Illastrat No.3473955]

Step it up brian

[Anonymous No.3474272]

anons ... what do you think of this watercolor? I like watercolor a lot but it's always good to see my mistakes.
thanks in advance and if you fancy this is my devianart

https://vascku.deviantart.com

[Anonymous No.3474346]

>>3473955

this looks like shit mate

[Anonymous No.3474426]

>>3474272
I hate how the sky is painted, too saturated. and why are the brush strokes diagonal? you could've easily painted the whole sky with a single brush stroke/ a lot of water.

[Anonymous No.3474449]

A work in progress. Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3474452]

>>3474449
there's no direction and it's too flat overall. something needs to happen in the foreground to create more interest and depth.

[Anonymous No.3474466]

>>3474449
more contrast. lighter value where the light source hits in the background. the composition is unbalanced with the trunks of the trees starting so high up in the frame.

[Anonymous No.3474467]

>>3473855
Good portrait for a live one desu but what are those freudian spermtails in the background

[Anonymous No.3474469]

>>3474466
Shit

[Anonymous No.3474648]

>>3474449
Think of painting as carving. You need to create depth and light should be your tool to do so. Also, you need harder edges to define your objects in the foreground. It's ok to do that to the leaves, but the trees should feel like solid objects.

[Anonymous No.3474700]

>>3473621 did more to this, gonna try to finish it tomorrow

[Anonymous No.3474774]

>>3474648
Thanks. Should I add a bush or something in the foreground?

[Anonymous No.3474779]

>>3474774
YOU NEED TO LEARN TO BE MORE PATIENT if you're thinking of adding it today, anon. Let it dry. Then paint on top of it. If you need to make an area darker, make it darker, then wait for it to dry again, and put the light on top of it. Light should always go over dark, and for that you need to wait between layers. Nobody is telling you you need to finish a painting in a day, and it looks like you are trying to do everything in as few layers and as fast as you can. Work with the oils, not against them, there's no rush.

[Anonymous No.3474794]

Just tried a nib pen, absolutely in love.

Gonna get a second holder with maru nibs, are there any affordable fountain pens that let me change the nib to g-pen? Along with being refillable? I'd like to use my own ink ( platinum carbon ink). Dipping ink all the time is fine at home but on the go I want all that g-pen goodness

[Anonymous No.3474796]

>>3474779
This painting is three weeks old. Dry to the touch as of this moment. I am very conservative with how much paint I apply.

[Anonymous No.3474986]

>>3473372
progress on this, trying to bring out the form and anatomy of the body a bit more cause it was a bit of a mushy mess before. probably going to do one more layer tomorrow and be done with it

[Anonymous No.3475037]

>>3474794
there is one that you can rip the nib off of a jinhao x750 and it fits a g-nib but its not that great .nothing works like the dipping. but it does work.

[Anonymous No.3475131]

>>3472323
alright im done with this

[Anonymous No.3475303]

>>3474774
>>3474779

He can paint wet on wet if he wants to. Just cake that shit on. Paint fast and fuck things up. It's a great way to learn quickly. At his skill level and with the current subject, his process won't be that big of a deal. He just has to focus on his ref and bang it out.

[Anonymous No.3475305]

>>3475303
Painting fast is only a good way to make bad paintings and learn fuck all. Reversed learning curve not good.

[Anonymous No.3475368]

[Anonymous No.3475403]

>>3475368
uhhh this painting is not mine

[Anonymous No.3475420]

>>3475403
Sure it is ;) who else paints like that

[Anonymous No.3475447]

How do I into oil if I'm a poorfag?

[Anonymous No.3475476]

>>3475131
finished this

[Anonymous No.3475478]

>>3475476
and I touched this one up, this'd be a cheaper painting

[Anonymous No.3475529]

>>3473872
fuck,

This is great, ive saved some of your works into inspo folders before

You've definitely improved

[Anonymous No.3475536]

>>3473955
Dude nice, you should be posting on deviantArt, there's a lot of similar artists there. /ic/ is full of crabs

[Anonymous No.3475803]

>>3475447
Buy watercolours and mix them with olive oil instead of water.

[Anonymous No.3475966]

Any of you anons have recommendations for gouache sets for a beginner to the medium?

[Anonymous No.3476177]

>>3475529
thanks!

here's progress on this

[Anonymous No.3476195]

Any recommendations for this one? The walnuts aren’t finished.

[Anonymous No.3476201]

>>3476195
Don't make highlights white, even if the light source is a white lightbulb. Nothing in nature is pure white, the same way nothing in nature is pure black

[Anonymous No.3476216]

>>3476195
Composition is nonexistent - that curve you have going on is lazy as all fuck, and you know it.

Value range is nonexistent, and as a result the color range is very limited.

Start with expanding your value range a bit more, and spend time really getting your shadows to move towards the light in a pleasant way, alternating between warms and cools along the way.

[Anonymous No.3476223]

>>3476216
The painting isn’t worth working on again. Might as well start a new one.

[Anonymous No.3476238]

>>3476223
If you're just starting out do not work with food, flowers or other things that change with time.

Take objects that have at least two different kind of materials - ie. fabrics, metals, glass, ceramics, whatever.

Look at still life paintings that have arrangements that appeal to you. Go for something like that.

Use a single light source. Multiple light sources are a recipe for fucking things up.

Take your time. Your objects won't degrade so you have the time to work. Paint in stages, using oil diluted with mineral spirits at first, and as you build your layers up use your oil medium.

If you want a more step-by-step approach, look at the Watts Atelier video tutorial on cgpeers.

[Anonymous No.3476240]

>>3476238
>Take objects that have at least two different kind of materials
Slight reword: get at least two objects of different material.

[Anonymous No.3476241]

>>3476201
bad advice. worse than "don't make shadows gray" theres a time and a place for everything when used with care. also highlights can easily be white depending how reflective the object is. in this case, the surface of an apple is very fucking reflective. put a white lightbulb next to an apple irl and see what happens

[Anonymous No.3476248]

>>3476241
White light is cool though, and in OP's picture all the highlights are warm, so either he saw a highlight and went "it's probably white", or he's not properly observing the color of the light that's surrounding his still life.

[Anonymous No.3476305]

>>3476248
Regarding my painting. I had planned to model the surface after a stone slab, an object that I do not own. Decided to change it to wood. I do not own a highly polished wooden table either. All but the center apple and the one on the left was mostly guess work. I did not own a lamp for consistent lighting. What do you think I should do about that?

[Anonymous No.3476310]

>>3476238
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3476312]

>>3476305
you should either get a lightstand or you should move your still life next to a window and work on it over the course of a few days when the light is in the proper place, maybe start multiple still lifes for different times of day. Quantity is what you need most desperately right now, quality will come with time.

As far as your table situation, that's completely fine. I have a drafting table that I set up my still lifes on and depending on my mood I'll paint the surface the still life is on whatever color I'm feeling that day (especially because the table is covered in paint and I don't have the energy to paint a paint splattered table every time). I'd stick with trying to make it a simple three value wood if you're reinterpreting the surface it is on though, don't try to imagine too much of what you are painting or there will be a disconnect between the realism of your objects and the imagined surface they are resting on. I'd recommend looking at Odilon Redon's still lifes of flowers and see how he handled making a simple surface for his objects to rest on with only a midtone and a lighter highlight. You can do a lot with a few layers, you just need to have the patience to start doing layers in the first place.

[Anonymous No.3476380]

finished this older self portrait

[Anonymous No.3476592]

>>3475305
MFW you will never learn to paint intuitively. Turn off your targeting computer, use the force. Confidence is an aspect of improving.

[Anonymous No.3476608]

>>3476380
did more to this

[Anonymous No.3476609]

>>3476608
and I finished this one too

[Anonymous No.3476682]

revised an old painting

[Anonymous No.3476687]

>>3476682
damn bro

[Anonymous No.3476716]

>>3476687
ah the photo was too dark

[Anonymous No.3476723]

>>3476716
dude at some point you need to learn how to draw. Do a normal still life, or a normal landscape, or a normal portrait. Just... come on man... you're wasting a lot of time here.

[Anonymous No.3476729]

>>3476723
normal still life, normal landscape or normal portrait?

why?

those stuffs bore me.

[Anonymous No.3476789]

>>3476729
I really don't give a fuck if they bore you, you aren't going to become a better artist unless you do them. They stop being boring when you get good at them

[Anonymous No.3476793]

>>3476789
No. I already did plenty of those.

I am past that stage of learning fundamentals. It seems that you are stuck with exploring "normal still life, normal landscape or normal portrait" all your life.

I move on, carrying what I learned with me. This is the type of art that I want to make. I don't want to make art that you want to make.

And the art that I make has great merits. Already I am achieving what I want to achieve.

[Anonymous No.3476802]

>>3476793
Enjoy being poor

[Anonymous No.3476815]

>>3476802
why?

i am not poor. my art is not poor.

It seems that the delusional person here is you. You don't understand the merits of my art. You seem to think "normal still life, normal landscape, and normal portrait" are important and meaningful.

They are definitely not. Academicism is not my style.

And I will prove you wrong. Easily.

[Anonymous No.3476843]

>>3476815
Wait hold up you're not poor? Do you make a living off your art? How do you support yourself?

[Anonymous No.3476851]

>>3476843
i am currently a student. i will need to support myself after i graduate

[Anonymous No.3476852]

>>3476843
the bank of mommy and daddy

[Anonymous No.3476854]

>>3476852
right on

[Anonymous No.3476959]

>>3476852
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.3476970]

>>3476959
you try to live independently and work full time with non art related jobs while being unable to make art that satisfies you

i will take full advantage of all the resources and time to make and promote my art, and getting my degrees.

[Anonymous No.3476973]

>>3476970
Well you're right about one thing chun, you sure are taking your sweet fucking time

[Anonymous No.3477183]

im not super happy with how this came out... but a lot of that has to do with the drawing for it is incredibly old, and if I'd drawn this girl now it would be much less cartoonish. Otherwise I'm happy with how childishly sexual the skin tones are. If I ever got to do a nude painting of Catt this is more or less how I'd like the skin tones to look. A lot of pink.

[Anonymous No.3477198]

>>3477183
also finished this. I'm really tired of chun and illastrat lumping me in with them when they work about .1% as hard as me, btw.

[Anonymous No.3477220]

>>3477183
on second thought it just looks like she got into a box of powdered donuts but you guys get what I was going for, right?

[Anonymous No.3477508]

finished this. gonna restrain myself from doing more layers on this, gonna leave it how it is.

[Anonymous No.3477509]

>>3477508
and I finished this

[Anonymous No.3477522]

>>3477509
I call this "WAAAAAAAAH!"

[Anonymous No.3477729]

>>3473825
In the end this all went to shit, so I nixed the whole works and started fresh. On the bright side I learned a bit about order of operations (at least what works for me). How it sits currently.

[Anonymous No.3478025]

>>3468357
anyone got any thoughts on this style?

[Anonymous No.3478052]

>>3478025
You suck. Very generic. Honestly.

[Anonymous No.3478433]

what camera do you guys use to take photos of your paintings? I've been using my phone's camera but its pretty bad

[Anonymous No.3478449]

>>3478433
just my iPhone 6's camera... it's not some crazy megapixel nothing, it's just a regular iPhone 6.

Here's a plein air thing I've been working on the past 3 days. Only three layers on it so far, probably gonna need like 3 more days.

[Anonymous No.3478493]

>>3478433
I use a Nikon D610

[Anonymous No.3478505]

>>3478449
Sucks

[Anonymous No.3478589]

>>3477220
I like it, Brian; I know blending isn't always your thing but maybe give that white a hue?

[Wills No.3478694]

Copy of an "atlier" portrait study, don't know by whom.

[Anonymous No.3478723]

Small charcoal study after Velazquez

[Wills No.3478725]

>>3478723
Charcoal portrait.

[Anonymous No.3478739]

>>3478694
>>3478725
post refs

how long did you spend on these?

[Wills No.3478763]

>>3478739
Here is ref for Velazquez study, will need to get to computer to post other refs.

I have no clue how much time I spend. I would guess 4 hours per drawing? I'm very inefficient with studio time. Will say that since I have been pretty much only focused on values when drawing things have speed up a lot.

[Anonymous No.3479890]

>>3478763
Have you tried pastel or chalk?

[Anonymous No.3480069]

>>3476195
learn to take a picture, don't use flash, make sure the light source isn't directly behind the camera
ideally you want it to be above the image shining down on the image at a 45 degree angle.

[Anonymous No.3480174]

>>3478505
is it looking better?

[Anonymous No.3480266]

>>3480174
this painting has absolutely zero depth. Why did you make the new brush strokes on the background as bright as you did on the foreground?
does the thumbnail look alright to you?

[Anonymous No.3480279]

>>3480266
some people aren't as good as you are okay jerk??

[Anonymous No.3480284]

>>3480266
I can always add more layers of highlights to push the other things farther back, nothing that can't be fixed with more layers. I'm doing this one much more restrained

[Anonymous No.3480367]

What does /ic/ think about my art?
I'm new here. Not new to painting tho.

[Anonymous No.3480419]

>>3480279
how was I a jerk? I just said it had zero depth, I could've just said "sucks" like the previous anon.

[Anonymous No.3480429]

>>3477508
holy shit mate what the absolute fuck are you doing.
dont even hit me with that "style" shit either, its like someone hit his entire body with a cartoon mallet that made him swell up.
also, how would the bottom of the foot be flat in perspective to us at all here, that just isnt possible.

[Anonymous No.3480450]

>>3480429
That painting is a year old I just wanted to change the colors

[Anonymous No.3480466]

>>3480367
your art is not bad

[Anonymous No.3480489]

>>3480429
Critiquing the drawing in a painting is the most nonsensical thing you can do. The only thing you can change about a painting after the fact is the colors, the drawing is what it is. How do you expect me to go back and change the perspective on the foot, or shrink the proportions on the body? Do you have a critique about the colors? Cause I can actually change that.

[Anonymous No.3480565]

>>3471601
Honestly the top right is my favorite part of this, I like the way you blobbed the trees out and the colors in the sky

[Anonymous No.3480653]

>>3480489
>Yeah I can't use any of this, it can't help me in the future

you are hopeless man

>>3480450
So you are acknowledging its bad and you still spend time on it instead of making something new?

[Wills No.3480671]

>>3479890
I Have worked with pastel a little bit, why do you ask?
I am wanting to work pretty much with oils only in the future using the Mark Carder Draw Mic paint method. Using pastels for color value studies does seems like a good idea, I have a few landscapes I want to do.
Here is a study I worked on today.

[Anonymous No.3480697]

>>3480653
>spend time on it instead of making something new?
literally working on three paintings right now you mongrel. two in the thread if you look hard enough.

[Anonymous No.3480950]

>>3480671
I think youhave the skill to use pastels as well. I like your drawings.

[Anonymous No.3481073]

>>3478052
sure, I can handle honest crits. Can you be more specific as to what is wrong? rip it up

[Anonymous No.3481137]

>>3468497
Aaand figure study from yesterday with charcoal
>>3478725
I recognize this one, seems like the jaw is slightly skewed. The Velasquez one, it looks like you turned the head up to the right. Accuracies like that probably come from practice though and it seems like you're producing a lot, keep it up!!

[Anonymous No.3481227]

heres a quick thing I did this morning

[Anonymous No.3481228]

>>3481227
and heres what I landed on for this. a little too busy for my liking.

[Anonymous No.3481355]

I'm trying to do an underwater perspective painting and honestly it just looks terrible, I don't know what to do.
Right now its still wet and I guess it "can" be fixed Idk. All I know is I'm tried of wasting oil paint and oil paper.

[Anonymous No.3481362]

>>3481227
Beautiful. Please never stop studying. This world needs more beauty.

[Anonymous No.3481384]

>>3481355
it looks really awful yeah. the thumbnail looks semi decent, but up close is trash.
Did you look up any "tutorials" on how to paint water / underwater?

[Anonymous No.3481435]

>>3481384
There's nothing wrong it other then it not being done and in need of more detail. I would also suggest to up the value of the surface towards the middle

[Anonymous No.3481463]

>>3468820
kinda looks like ben shapiro if he had aids

[Anonymous No.3482723]

>>3481435
>There's nothing wrong it other then it not being done and in need of more detail
I honestly can't understand how some people can be this dumb.

[Anonymous No.3482927]

>>3481355
Think about the strips of light on the surfaces, they shouldn't be as well defined and even as yours are. I think you've got some good tone going with the base colors, but its the hard lines that are messing with you.

Its actually kinda tough to get it to look right, and I'm still struggling with it myself on a piece I'm trying to finish. Best advice is to look at some photos and think about how the colors are presenting themselves

[Anonymous No.3482995]

>>3480367
I like the crab next to garfield, reminds me of myself

[Anonymous No.3484808]

finished this

[Anonymous No.3484827]

>>3468753

if you weren't so insufferable id enjoy this work to a pretty high degree, the aesthetic of clay in painting is a cool idea, just try not to be a huge cunt so people in the future like you more. a lot of us never forgot your horrible spamming a year or so ago claiming that you would be one of the best painters to ever live.

maybe one day you wont have to be a wici character, at least you stay in this thread most of the time

also use less black outlines, break the cartoony childish habit

[Anonymous No.3484858]

>>3484827
Now if only I could get chun and illastrat to keep my fucking name out of their mouths

[Anonymous No.3484864]

DO YOU LIKE MY PAINTING!?

[Anonymous No.3484866]

>>3484858
the one who keeps saying names is you brian

you keep mentioning my name even though i never mention yours

you dont notice its illastrat who is obsessed with you
not me

why are you obsessed with me?

[Anonymous No.3484872]

>>3481137
Where do you find reference?

[Anonymous No.3484879]

>>3484866
why don't you post what you painted today?

[Anonymous No.3484882]

>>3484879
my technique is so labor intensive that it takes a long long time to finish

[Anonymous No.3484887]

>>3468067
How are you supposed to blend acrylics?

[Anonymous No.3484893]

>>3484887
with water, the nice thing about acrylics is if you do a layer on top of another layer, you can blend it in after the fact with a little water, because the acrylic stays water soluble for a long time even if it dries quickly. Until you put a varnish on the painting that makes it water proof you can manipulate the layers as much as you want for the most part.

[Anonymous No.3484908]

>>3484887
>>3484893
I would also recommend using a gel medium to thin out paints too.
Acrylics will crack if they are thinned out too much.

[Anonymous No.3484910]

>>3484908
also always the option of not blending

[Anonymous No.3485037]

Posting an update on progress with this one.

[Anonymous No.3485038]

>>3485037
Fuck

[Anonymous No.3485044]

>>3484866
btw I don't spell my name with an "i".

[Anonymous No.3485063]

>>3484866
>>3485044
I'm just kiddin guys <3

[Anonymous No.3485103]

>>3480950
>>3480950
Thanks dude, I will fuck around with an old set of landscape pastels I bought about a decade ago, and post here have some time in this weekend

>>3481137 I like the critique, but it's a pretty small charcoal drawing I will correct it when I can find it.

Posting lost wax dental bridge cast in gold and metal finished, not really related to art fag shit.

[Anonymous No.3486399]

finished this

[Anonymous No.3486402]

finished this

[Anonymous No.3486805]

self portrait

[Anonymous No.3486886]

>>3484887
Use a drying retarder and glazing medium. Both Golden and Liquitex have them for really cheap. Just learn to paint fast.

[Anonymous No.3486888]

[Anonymous No.3487750]

Thoughts?
Did this off a photo ref with acrylic and markers

[Anonymous No.3487753]

>>3487750
more

[Anonymous No.3488031]

Any issues?

[Anonymous No.3488053]

>>3488031
anatomy is way off
you dont know how to blend correctly
uninspired conposition
keep it up

[Anonymous No.3488059]

New impression

[Anonymous No.3488063]

>>3488053
blend what correctly? this is the natural result of using palette knife. it's a different style from using a brush.

uninspired? you must feel good trying to stomp down one of the better artists here

[Anonymous No.3488073]

>>3488063
what? do you really thik that the shadows are blend correctly? look that those arms
the tools are not a justification for that
a quick reverse search show hundreds of better paintings in that style
Everyone that starts painting ends up with something like that, ive seen a lot of this crap

[Anonymous No.3488078]

>>3488073

[Anonymous No.3488079]

>>3488073
these

[Anonymous No.3488248]

>>3488073
>>3488079
well i dont know about blending being wrong. i fixed the anatomy

[Anonymous No.3488366]

>>3488059
I like this, anon

[Anonymous No.3488403]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3488454]

>>3468357
I like it. It looks blurry but the white on the hammock makes it look defined in the haze. Looks dream-like.

[Anonymous No.3488456]

>>3470552
Nice painting, terrible picture (glare)

[Anonymous No.3488793]

>>3488456
I use stand oil as a thinner. The painting is glossy and I took the photo with a phone camera. That’s the best I can do with what I have.

[Anonymous No.3488800]

>>3488403
is that supposed to be alien jesus

[Anonymous No.3488809]

>>3488031

Fuck off cumbum

[Anonymous No.3489459]

>>3488454
Thank you, kind anon!

[Post what you are working on No.3489511]

Im working on this vista, im going to add the details tomorrow, any advice to make the windows look more glassy?

[Post what you are working on No.3489518]

>>3488403
Perspective feels a bit odd but i really dig the shadowing

[Anonymous No.3489565]

>>3488809
do you want me to make my own threads? no, right?

i am itching to make my own threads
and using rude language only helps me go in that direction

[Anonymous No.3489627]

Currently working on, crit welcome

I'd like some guidance about shading in the shadows cast from her halo...

[Anonymous No.3489734]

final revision

[Anonymous No.3489741]

>>3475368
sir matthew smith right? familiar feelings

[Anonymous No.3491952]

>>3487753
pretty cool, laid back

[Anonymous No.3493499]

>>3468070
Lookin' good, dude. Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.3493502]

>>3468367
Weird as fuck, nice work. I dig the bizarre line work, colors, and vaguely religious vibe going on.

[Anonymous No.3493508]

Got into Gouache painting recently, all plein air, it has been a fun way to relax. Still trying to get the hand on complex vs simplifying, here are some recent ones:

[Anonymous No.3493509]

>>3493508

[Anonymous No.3493510]

>>3493508
That style really grooves with gouache, friend.

[Anonymous No.3493514]

>>3493510
Thank you my dude!

[Anonymous No.3493529]

>>3493509
Yo this is sweet, reminds me a bit of Nathan Fowkes. What's your process like? Do you start with a wash first or go immediately opaque?

[Anonymous No.3493534]

>>3493529
Thanks man! I love nathan's work, him and Mike hernandez really inspire me with their plein air work.
I always do an under painting in a warm tone, either orange red or yellow, but leave the brightest areas or focal point without the under painting. That is more so that I make a mental note that I want the viewer to focus there, so my detail/color radiates from that area. After that, I always go very heavy on paint, I tend to really like the 'marbling' effect of multiple unmixed paints, but will sometimes do washes for areas that need to be softer edged. I want to get more practice with washes though as I dont feel as comfortable with them.

[Anonymous No.3493574]

[Anonymous No.3493918]

Guitar and Wilting Roses

[Anonymous No.3493989]

Some more progress after the big fuck up, but at least it made me sit down and get back to design basics a bit. Still got a ways to go but it's getting there.

[Anonymous No.3494122]

>Discovered that you can work with liquidpaper on black paper
>Today I went outside and did my first en plein air watercolor
This month has been crazy for me.

[Anonymous No.3494136]

quick plenair study I did

[Anonymous No.3494624]

Plein air today from Ghent , more gouache

[illastrat No.3494742]

Ass

[Anonymous No.3494745]

>>3494742
No need to be so hard on yourself.

[Anonymous No.3494767]

>>3494742
What an ugly bird.

[Anonymous No.3494773]

>>3493509
Got a blog?

[Anonymous No.3494837]

>>3494773
Thank you for the interest!
I dont really post them anywhere besides FB at the moment, but after I get 20 or so that I am happy with I will add them to my artstation! https://www.artstation.com/fmacmanus

[Anonymous No.3495266]

>>3494837
Dude, if this is really you. What are you doing on /ic/ you've already made it.

[Anonymous No.3495269]

>>3495266
Not that guy, but what can you do profession-wise with interesting traditional style and skills in environment drawing? Not mocking, but being curious, because that's the only thing that i'm passionate mostly but I don't see how I could potentially use the skills if i improve them in future.

[Anonymous No.3495293]

>>3495269
Think you should ask the guy if it's actually him cause I'm not working yet, but from what I gather on the entertainment side of things (rather than fine art, which is something you can still pursue if you really want to) I think most people who like painting environments do stuff like color keys or environment design digitally, and then do traditional plein air stuff on the side, which is what I think he's doing. Look up people like Robert Kondo, Dice Tsutsumi, or Nathan Fowkes to name a few. But you can still pursue traditional painting as career as a fine artist I think, I just don't know as much about it.

[Anonymous No.3495900]

>>3482723
>not explaining whats wrong

fuck offffff

[Anonymous No.3495909]

>>3489565
that doesn't make any sense, you'll only get even more rude language ion you make your own thread

[Anonymous No.3495910]

>>3481355
Looks realistic color wise, but I think your foreshortening is off. Looking at the earth surface, I think you started making stripes of color smaller too late. The don't become smaller up until it's almost the horizon. I can't say the same about water surface, because I can attribute lack of foreshortening to that being a wave though. Just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3495913]

>>3495910
> stripes of color
I wanted to say stripes of light. Those light lines.

[Anonymous No.3496368]

>>3495900
all you need to do is look at an underwater pic to tell what's wrong.
I asked anon if he watched any tutorials on how to paint water/underwater, and I got a reply of "there's nothing wrong but he needs to fix this, this and this"