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3225681 No.3225681 [Reply] [Original]

This is the world we live in now, art is slowly upsetting people.

https://nypost.com/2017/12/03/new-yorkers-call-for-removal-of-met-painting-that-sexualizes-girl/

>> No.3225686

>>3225681
Art has always upset people, from the beginning of time. Since the first fucking caveman doodled on his wall, some other fucker didn't like it and wanted it gone. What is it with people like you always trying to victimize themselves or paint the world a certain way? This isn't some new revelation, it's always been like this and it will always be like this, till the end of time.

>> No.3225690

Balthus has always been a controversial artist and art has always been controversial as far as the fucking renaissance. So not exactly anything new, anyways it's not coming down which is good.
>But a rep for the museum said it won’t remove the painting because art is meant to reflect many time periods — not just the current one.

>> No.3225691

>>3225681
fuck new york.

>> No.3225694

>>3225686
This "art is controversial" crap is bullshit. If someone interprets your art as racist, it gets shutdown but pedophilia is okay.

>> No.3225696

>>3225694
You either don't know shit about art history or you just wanted to have your /pol/bait.

>> No.3225697

>>3225694
There you go victimizing yourself again lad...

>> No.3225698

>>3225696
>>3225697
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/10/13/a-chinese-museum-paired-africans-with-animals-prompting-charges-of-racism-and-then-theres-this-translation-app/?utm_term=.c011a086504b
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN, children in compromising positions however is art.

>> No.3225700

>>3225698
I think the saddest part is that people can't even have a conversation with you. All you do is regurgitate someone else's thoughts or post memes.

>> No.3225704

>>3225691
/pol/ played you like a goddamned fiddle, anon. you are literally sucking a cock right now.

>> No.3225705

>>3225698
A small exhibit in china takes down some photographs after they use the word nigger and what exactly does this prove? Yeah art often makes people upset its not new.

>> No.3225709

>>3225700
says the person who is mindlessly outsourcing their judgement to political correctness

>> No.3225712

Art has always been making people upset. This isn't news.

>> No.3225713

>>3225709
This is what I mean you retard. No one is talking about political correctness but you. Jesus fucking christ.

>> No.3225715

>>3225713
>hurrdurr U R wrong cuz its not PC
that was literally all you said, try considering factual correctness next time you ejit.

>> No.3225719

>>3225715
nvm. I'm now convinced you're trolling. I'm the retard.

>> No.3225725

OP just wants to bait his sjw/race bullshit. He opens up his post with the implication that offended new yorkers want to take down a piece of art because of its sexual nature, then he complains that pedoart is fine but art about race isn't. Maybe it would have been an interesting thread but he doesn't want to talk art he wants to talk 4chan politics.

>> No.3225734

>>3225681
Anyone who can pick up a brush can paint what they want, it's their 'right'. But the 'right' to invade a Public space with 'art' that contravenes agreed societal norms damages society. There is no 'right' to make the public look at sexualised material of under-aged children.

>> No.3225759

>>3225681
good job new york

>> No.3225760

>>3225681
Balthus is the shit.

But check out these paintings in the background:
http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1512307488765.webm
I'm just infuriated by what people hang on their walls at home! We is art going?

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3225787

>>3225681
his face doesnt help lol
Although he had nice taste going for that nipon pussy nomsayin

>> No.3225805

>>3225760
What paintings?

>> No.3225807
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3225807

>>3225681
>the pedos on this board won't be able to sell their work to anyone in public by the time they git gud

>> No.3225817

>>3225734
That is happening nowhere but in your own mind, anon. You are the pedos.

>> No.3225832

>>3225817
>im just going to plug my ears and keep pretending /pol/ stuff isnt real

>> No.3225833

>>3225694
Isn't pedophilia the reason why people have a problem with this.

>> No.3225927

>>3225817
Once I was in the supermarket with my daughter, she was about 8 or 9. Two men were discussing her in lewd terms. After a minute or so, they realised I was listening to them over shoulders, AND I was the mother.
Of course pedos are all in my mind, anon. People never have 'bad' thoughts about young children based on an image in front of them.

>> No.3225943

>>3225681
this won't stop with balthus: half the old masters were into nymphets. probably the most common subject in all art history.

>> No.3225957

They should take it down it’s an underage girl showing way too much skin. It’s disgustig and shouldn’t be in a public place let alone a museum.

>> No.3225983

Is it weird that I think balthus did nothing wrong but that bougeraougerau was a disgusting literal child pornographer

>> No.3225992
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3225992

All those sjw comments. Jesus, the western art community is so dead. Government doesn't even need to censor anymore, all these brainwashed idiots do it themself.

>> No.3225999

>>3225957
>I find it disgusting so this kind of art should be banned for everyone

>> No.3226013 [DELETED] 

>>3225992
It’s just a New York thing. Take for example these comments, look at the comment section from the beyond super liberal HuffPost. People are saying its art.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a260869e4b0f9f0203ec645

>> No.3226016

New York is the worse city in the world it’s a proven fact at this point.

>> No.3226028

>>3225992
>more unrelated buzzwords
>this is the absolute state of /pol/fags

>> No.3226044

>>3225992
that was the goal

>> No.3226045

>>3226028
>X group is offended by y content.
>STOP SPOUTING UNRELATED BUZZWORDS
YOU [RIGHT-WING BUZZWORD]

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>>3226045
There he goes again...

>> No.3226064

>>3225927
Maybe you should dress your daughter more properly. Stop enabling the pedos.

>> No.3226067

>>3225992
It's just trolls trolling trolls.

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3226090

>>3225681
"clarification, The Met is, perhaps unintentionally, supporting voye"
>trying to ban something with a 'perhaps'

>> No.3226093

>>3225681
These kind of people have existed forever you spazz. Their retarded complaints never had any weight until the internet enabled them to.

>> No.3226105

>>3225681
>"But a rep for the museum said it won’t remove the painting because art is meant to reflect many time periods — not just the current one."
Just like it should be.
Don't worry anon, nothing will happen.
Liberals will be laugh at like always and everything will be right in the world.

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3226131

>amerimongrels

>> No.3226135

>>3226064
My daughter used to dress like a frump, she still does. And you can fuck off with making excuses for you & your mates.

>> No.3226142
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3226142

>>3226105
remember this is the same country where angry mobs were successfully destroying 100+ years old statues because they somehow offended them

>> No.3226157

>>3226142
What surprises me is that there were never any "statue defenders" keeping the rioters at bay or something.
Hell, there wasn't even a fistfight.
Talk about defending American history.

>> No.3226163

>>3225681

Those evil old white cis males ! Burn all their works !

Serebriakova is fine though.

Thought crimes, here we go.

>> No.3226164

So are people itt upset that some New Yorkers wanted the girl painting down? Or are people upset that the painting will stay up and its pedo? Can't tell who is trolling who anymore.

>> No.3226166

>>3226142
>statues with more political than artistic value explicitly erected as a response to abolitionism by the losing side and later as a response to the civil rights movement
They had it coming.

>> No.3226169

>>3225691
Do you hate Germany too?

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3226190

>>3226166
>>as a response to abolitionism by the losing side and later as a response to the civil rights movement
Nigger, lies aren't gonna take you anywhere.

>> No.3226197

>>3225691
You think that this painting would fly in any other city in the US? Idiot.

>> No.3226198

If the artist was intending sexualization, he didn't do a very good job. This just looks like a girl sitting back and relaxing in private.

>> No.3226200

>>3226190
yeah cletus whitey dindu nuffin das just our hisdory we wuz slavers n shit

>> No.3226206

>>3226200
Haha kek

>> No.3226207

>>3226200
Somebody's butthurt.

>> No.3226223

>>3226207
stay wrecked cuck

>> No.3226226

>>3226142
>statues erected decades after the civil war ended put for the sole purpose of reminding black people their place in America
>can't understand how people are somehow 'offended' by them

This is an example of /pol/fag revisionist history.

>> No.3226230

>>3226226
Calm down, anon, it's alright.
Show us on the RadioShack catalog where the conservative hurt your feelies.

>> No.3226239
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3226239

that immigrant bitch who started it should be burn at the stake like the good ol' times.

>> No.3226243
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3226243

>>3226230
right here doc :((

>> No.3226348

>>3226239
the irony, most probably lost on you, is that the pedo-hysteria and the "alt-right" persecution are precisely the modern equivalents of the medieval witch hunting, or the most recent mcCarthyism

>> No.3228830

>>3225681
Giving women the vote was a mistake.

>> No.3228858
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3228858

>>3226226
>>3226142

I guess this isn't revisionism when you just say monuments were aimed AGAINST someone instead of pro identity, as they explicitly are, even though all you have is pure leftist conjecture?

>southern identity a eeveel
>confederate flag a eeveel
>confederation was just eeveel eeveel natzies fighting for slavery and nothing else
>le punch natzies

They were right to built those, seeing how the narrative developed. They probably anticipated it from what they were hearing from you about the confederates at the time.

The civil war was ultimately an imperialist crackdown on separatists, as attested by Lincoln himself. Abolition came everywhere eventually. Hell, the US war of independence was also triggered chiefly by fears of abolition - which by the way brings us to the logical conclusion: by the same standard US flag is a slaver flag and you can bet it and the identity associated with it will get stamped out when the opportunity arises. Lets say when NAFTA turns to NAU, which will happen, considering the future demographics and the constand drive of the politcal class to expand its reach.

>> No.3228860

>it's another /pol/ shit board sliding """""""honest thread"""""""

>> No.3228874

>>3225681
Should loli doujinshi be forbidden too?

>> No.3228890

>>3225681
>biggest enemies of modern nu-man
>shitty doodles and words

i always knew new york was full of petty assholes who have no natural sex drive anymore. they respect women so much they´re turning gay to leave women more space

>> No.3228901

>>3228874
Yes, only pedoshitters whomst are compensating for their small dicks read that shit.

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3230515

>>3225681
if this triggers people, i dont think they have seen his other paintings.

>> No.3230537

>>3228901
t. sand filled roastie.

>> No.3231361

>>3225704
what does his post or the picture have to do with pol it's just retarded to be outraged by a woman's panties we literally have full on naked statues of men with smol cute dicks in museums and people are outraged by some innocent picture

>> No.3231364

>>3231361
wait I just realised that was a child and we live in a pedo world or w.e

>> No.3231481
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3231481

>>3225681
hail naked beauty of man and woman

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3233782

>>3225704
You're literaly looking at a mirror right now.

>> No.3233789

I've been thinking about a question for a while:

What if somebody took a photo of a naked child in a sexualized pose and painstakingly painted the same image, pixel by pixel to look exactly like the original except changing ie. 2 or 3? Would it be child porn? What constitutes an image being illegal? What if I just paint a 90% realistic image of a naked kid? Where do they draw the line?

>> No.3233802

>>3233789
Technically no but since nobody likes technicalities the cops will still bust your balls for possession and distribution of CP and they'll make an example out of your smart ass for future reference.

>> No.3234668

>>3233789
You can draw naked kids. The problem is when you put them in sexual situations, even if just a sexual pose. So drawing a naked kid on a skateboard is fine, proof? The Simpions movie. In the uk one of the judges said something along the lines of "these characters are still people" when someone drew Simpsons porn and charged the guy.

With that said You can get away with kids in sexual situations if it's apart of a story that blatantly isn't porn but you can't cut out the rest of movie and keep sexual parts with the kids that would count as child porn if it's separated.

Don't bother with it unless your in a country where it's clearly allowed like us and jp.

>> No.3234675

>But a rep for the museum said it won’t remove the painting because art is meant to reflect many time periods — not just the current one.
why is this this thread even here

>> No.3234721

>>3234668
>>3233802

Yeah dudes. I'm definitely not into porn art and the thought of someone drawing sexualized children kind of disgusts me. Just something I've been wondering about...

>> No.3234733

>>3225686
>implying the people offended by art aren't the self victimizers

>> No.3236984

>>3225725
So what? Lets talk about politics

>> No.3236986

>>3225992
This

>> No.3236995

>>3225681
so what happened in the end?
Nothing

>> No.3237007

>>3225698
Of course they zone in the the photo involving the monkey and not the lion.

>> No.3239491

>>3230515
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Leave the god damn kids alone
AUUGHGHGHGHGHGHGHG

>> No.3239825

>>3230515
oh my. never even considered there were western lolicons of fine art in public

>> No.3239836

>>3239825
You just lack "seeing" the amount of lolicon fine artists in the past

>> No.3239852

>>3225681
It upsets me because it's not sexy enough.

>> No.3239912

>>3226348
what is truly ironic is that the persecutors are the actual pedos of society.

>> No.3239935

>>3225681
I wish the reasoning for things like this was less about the big bad patriarchy and more about how it's unsettling to fetishize kids.

>> No.3239953

>>3225691
Yeah New York fucking sucks, anon. All major cities suck. You're not wasting your life in an unremarkable, uneventful town where no one likes you and nothing interesting happens to you. People in more population-dense areas arent having more fun, more sex and living more interesting livesthan you in the big cities! Honest!

>> No.3240031

wew judging by this thread /ic/ supports the removal of bougereau works from musea since his girls always looked pretty young too

>> No.3240058

>>3225681
considering the amount of famous paintings of little boys with their dicks out i dont see this as much different

>> No.3241835

>>3240031
>bougereau
Bouguereau*

>> No.3241845 [DELETED] 

>>3225715
you act like such a bitch, Anon. Holy fuck

>> No.3241846

>>3225725
Where lies the problem in doing that?

>> No.3241849

>>3225992
Unironically this

>> No.3241852

>>3226061
Not that anon, but I don't get why you get so offended by the thought of people discussing art in a context of the political climate we are in. It's a legit question to ask if politics are intertwining in a negative way with art

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3241886

>>3226166
>be on 4chan
>act like abolitionism and civil rights were good ideas

lurk moar faget

>> No.3241898

>>3239953
>People in more population-dense areas arent having more fun, more sex and living more interesting livesthan you in the big cities!
how are you supposed to practice fundamentals living like that?

>> No.3241935

>>3230515
whoa what the fuck?

Is there some sort of underlying backstory or theme to these paintings that gives context to why he paints this?

>> No.3241941

>>3241898
this.

>> No.3241963

>>3225681
These self righteous SJWs turning self victimisation into a business arent better than nazis burning books.
The thing is, 7k signatures is a loud minority of mouthbreathing sheep. This painting isn't remotely offensive and I'm glad the museum politely told them to fuck off.

>> No.3241977

>>3241935
look at the painting faggot

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3241993

>>3225681
>"When the erotic realist died in 2001, the lead singer of U2, Bono, sang at his funeral. The president of France and supermodel Elle Macpherson also attended the funeral."
>mirion dorar painting
>united staters who believes in baby jeesus and protested are over 7000
If you´re not from hamburguerland, draw contemporany loli in honor of this great artist.

>> No.3242116

Balthus was a pedo thou

>> No.3242235

We really have come full circle liberals used to be all about sex positivity and pushing art like this and now they're the same as conservatives in this subject. Why are people who 20 years ago were so against censorship now scream to remove things that offend them today?

>> No.3242255

>>3239953
Is this how they roped you in? How do you like getting freezed out + noise pollution?

>> No.3242262

>>3242235
>This
I'm a Bernie bro and I always tell my Liberal peers this shit is killing us. Free speech should not be infringed EVER. It's why I love Bill Maher, he's what Dems should be listening to.

>> No.3242278

>>3225694

That's because the BIG BLACK COCK is sacred you retard! they are the genetically superior human beings after all!

>> No.3242280

>>3234668

>these characters are still people


Then why make fun of waists who have said this same thing and love superiorly drawn Japanese Anime girls?

>> No.3242283

>>3242278
kek imagine being this delusional

you d/ic/ks should be drawing not bitching about irrelevant shit

>> No.3242443

I mean people can be offended by that if they want. People would probably as or more offended by a movie with similar content

>> No.3243435

>>3225681
>art is slowly upsetting people.
There is literally nothing in the world that upsets the commoner more than art.