Feel Thread

[Anonymous No.3201874]

Got a confession that's art related or affects your art? Need to get something off your chest and maybe get advice on it?
Post here.

This thread is being made to give advice and keep blogposts contained.

[Anonymous No.3201878]

fuk my ass hole

[Anonymous No.3201981]

I've been considering it for awhile now, but I've decided I want to be a comic book artist, a penciler, specifically. I'm studying the ideas and thoughts behind visual art/storytelling right now along side my art, and I've also been planning to go a vocational school like SVA or the Kubert School in a few years when I get out of the service. That being said, I feel somewhat hesitant deciding to do this because I've only gotten into comic books in the last few years, but I love them and talking to several artists and writers has done nothing but reinforce that. That being said, I feel kinda like an illegitimate wannabe artist. I didn't grow up with comics, least of all art, and deciding to to it at 27 professionally having liked them for such a short time makes me feel like a fake. I'm still going to go for it though. I was never pushed towards anything and don't have much else I want to do with my life

[Anonymous No.3202001]

>tfw motivated but old and your brain is telling you everyday that you should invest your energy in finding a stable situation and relationship instead of investing in your dreams specially when you're not even good.

I wonder if I should push and believe something will happen with time or chose basic comfort and maybe keep on regretting I never made anything with my life besides consuming.

[Anonymous No.3202006]

>>3202001
iktf

Thank god im a socially rejected retarded. The choice was already made for me.

[Anonymous No.3202020]

>Accidentally make something look lewd
>"Why did you draw that chick giving an invisible handjob?"
>Can't unsee that shit anymore

[Anonymous No.3202027]

i miss when i was like 13-14 and had a bunch of friends on deviantart and youtube and whatever ever since depression people have stopped talking to me and i think it's one of the things hindering my progress it's just not fun anymore

[Anonymous No.3202033]

>>3202027
>Have people you looked up to on dA 10 years ago
>Eventually moved on to other sites
>Sometimes think about those artists you liked
>I wonder what they are up to now
>Can't find half of them
>The other half seriously stagnated and never improved in those ten years when you were gone

[Anonymous No.3202046]

>>3202001
I'm in this situation and it's fucking tearing me apart. I've been drawing for 5 years now and I'm 30, not nearly as good as I want to be, I've always been doing this completely alone on my own and my willpower is running out.
I'm starting to think I really don't have the talent since I still struggle way too much to pull off a decent looking comic to publish, I don't have that enthusiasm anymore and sometimes I straight up don't want to draw. It's like these years have completely hollowed out drawing for me, I'm starting to see it as completely pointless drudgery.

I want to get back into it, I wasn't always like this... it really sucks. Age is such a tight rope around my neck I can't ignore it and I'm starting to feel like a completely delusional loser. I think about this career and my first thought is who am I kidding. I took a break but it only made things worse. Now I complain on 4chan about it while scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I'm severely depressed / suicidal because of this shit and I'm doing therapy, maybe it's just part of feeling like I failed at everything in life, I dunno really. I just want to get the pleasure of drawing back, I used to almost get a chill while drawing in pencil because I liked drawing forms so much.

[Anonymous No.3202047]

>>3202001
>>3202046
why cant you start a family, have a job, and do art as a hobby

[Anonymous No.3202056]

>>3202047
I don't care about having a family at all and I want to make comics for a living. Maybe not today, not tomorrow, but it will still be my end goal. Even if I just scrape by.

[Anonymous No.3202061]

>>3202047
I understand having a job+ committing all free time to doing art but having a family will literally kill your fucking time

[Anonymous No.3202076]

>>3202061
>>3202056
t. cucks

[Anonymous No.3202078]

>>3202046
I want to hug you

[Anonymous No.3202113]

>>3202076
i'd literally rather eat shit and die then spend the rest of my life raising a fucking gay ass family
fuck off

[Anonymous No.3202244]

>>3202047
I'm not him but for me it's all or nothing. That might sounds pretentious/millenial but I only want to live through art, I have a basic job I had for 10 years and it's eating me on the inside, this feeling of wasting time with my life.

[Anonymous No.3202248]

Sometimes the only way for me to try drawing something I haven't done before is to pretend that I'm some asshole who already knows how that works, and it gives me the courage to practice that new thing

[Anonymous No.3202252]

>>3202076
Why do you want burnouts and deadbeats in the white gene pool anyway

[Anonymous No.3202253]

>>3202001
Yo it's me again. I just wanna say something that might not be that meaningful but might reassure some people thinking like I do. I'm 37. There are high chances that everyone here is younger, so I have a message : you're here and thinking about this for a reason. You love art. Don't wait. Don't push it back. Do it as soon as you can. I'm convinced that working and a bit of thinking can top any problem. Thing is, it's way harder for me with my beginner level ( been drawing my whole life in and out but just started making my first actual progress this year because I finally started insisting on weaknesses and not just draw without a goal and give up when I didn't knew something) and my age doesn't help. Add to drawing the pressure of all of my friend married/having kids/in happy couple. So yeah, All my life, I waited, hoped, flew over my problems. Don't be like me. Do shit. We all know how to do it. There is no shortcut. Repeat until it works and analyze inbetween.
As for marketing yourself, not sure how this works, but I'm pretty sure everyone can find a niche nowadays.


Sorry for tl;dr and ESL. Should've just posted "DO IT". It's overused but so true and you only understand at some point how important and true this truly is.

[Anonymous No.3202283]

It's fucking hard and I want to kill my self but we're gonna make it guys

back to drawing

[Anonymous No.3202332]

>no real reason to live other than to grind until I am master artist/animator
fellow art hollows where are you?

[Anonymous No.3202334]

>>3202253
>>3202283
I fucking love you guys

[Anonymous No.3202346]

>>3201981
you don't have to grow up with something to be passionate about it. if you're worried that people will consider you a fake, prove them wrong with your art. or just ignore them. we're all going to die. do what you love to do.

[Anonymous No.3202361]

>>3202334
Love you too m8, let's nekketsu that shit and do it. Back to drawing.

[Anonymous No.3202367]

I don't even fucking like drawing to be honest. Coloring is my fucking shit though, I draw for the sake of getting to color and shade my art. It's the funnest thing in the world for me. Drawing is hell, though. I'd kill to work as a colorist on some comic

[Anonymous No.3202370]

>>3202367
Maybe find someone to work with, or do super simple illustrations/comics so the drawing part can be over faster? Children books or yonkoma for example...

[Anonymous No.3202371]

>>3202332
im here, brother. My sign is down, summon me will you.. i could really use the souls..

[Anonymous No.3202378]

>>3202367
I'm almost the complete opposite. I only enjoy the sketching and inking part then stop the inking just before it's finished so I never have to colour it. My sense of colour is really off and everything looks wrong, maybe I need to study colour theory but I doubt it will help much

[Anonymous No.3202636]

My art slumps usually last a day where I have really no inspiration or anything on non-study days. Nothing comes to mind no matter what I do, and I've accepted that as a thing that happens every couple weeks. But it's lasting for 3-4 days now to the extent that my studies are getting sloppy as well. It feels like I'm becoming retarded although I know that isn't the case. The blank canvas is truly the most terrifying thing. The only thing more terrifying is a blank canvas for an hour.

[Anonymous No.3202645]

It feels good to reach the point that my art isnt as absolute trash anymore so that i dont get a pity "nice" every time i post it. Rather discussion on such art piece instead.

it feels good to reach the next level, but theres still more to climb up upon

[Anonymous No.3202651]

I don't know how to begin a routine of drawing and how to draw. Even all this time practicing I feel like I haven't been doing it right and I haven't been getting better but keep on getting worse.

[Anonymous No.3202704]

>>3202651
Make a folder of art that inspires you and look at it every time you feel uninspired.

[Anonymous No.3202727]

I hate getting weird messages on Tumblr just because I draw porn

>People I've never talked to before hit me up on Tumblr chat
>"Hi! I really like your art, and wanted to ask you how you're doing. i got my period today"
>"Can you draw me getting fucked by these cartoon characters? You can find my photo on my blog on my selfie tag"

[Anonymous No.3202788]

>>3202727
don't draw porn then

[Anonymous No.3202857]

>>3202727
Is this bait? What did you expect? This is why when I get better I'm going to make a separate blog for porn. Might not even post it since I'll mainly be drawing it for myself anyway.

[Anonymous No.3202863]

>>3202001
>tfw old and does not have this mindset

What makes people have this mindset where they "think" they need to be in a relationship or find some type of "stable situation"?

[Anonymous No.3202870]

>>3202863
evolution

[Anonymous No.3202875]

>>3201874
>Dont want to be a casual hobbyist, want art to be something i can use as a reason to live

>Being a professional seems risky/unreliable . Dont want to be broke and living with the family all my life

Not sure where to go from here.

[Anonymous No.3203151]

I know they say you shouldn't make comparisons, that you should "just draw" and "just make things" but I feel so fucking dejected when I look at excellent work. I want my work to be like this but I'm fucking miles away from it. I'm so frustrated at myself, I want to be good goddammit. I've already spent too many years, why am I still not good?

[Anonymous No.3203152]

>>3202875
Be a professional obviously.

[Anonymous No.3203276]

>>3202863
At some point your body/brain just go feel like "it's time to settle down/I should already have a family and share love". Even without the family aspect, love is still something important. I refused this for a long time considering myself as a loner, but after having a taste of it, I get it know. Fortunately I had enough training being alone in my hard shell so I only cry once in a while and try to get back to work so I can at least make something of my life.
[/my journal]

>>3203151
Maybe try to change your mindset to "holy shit this page/illustration is so cool, it inspires me" instead of negative thoughts. Also I believe that those artists you admire usually invested a thousand more hours in drawing than you did. The difference between them and the people that give up is that they pushed through not being good (seriously, this is true of everything, falling and getting back again is the only way to learn) and admiring people better than them. But yeah most generally I'd say we have to use this envious feelings we have as a fuel, not as something that stops us.
Also remember that nobody has to see your failures. Accept them as ugly as they are, that's the best way I found to evolve. Fall in the most violent way but then take a step back and think about how not to fall next time. Little by little, you should learn some stuff. I'm honestly learning so slowly you'd laugh, but I'm learning and that's what matters.

Also, consider that maybe you're not someone that would draw in the style of Shirow to take this example. What you like is not necessarily entirely what you like to do and what is best for you to do. So unless you're super sure you want X style and only X style, reconsider your goals, and if you really want a specific style, then observe it, study it, and grind.

(Jesus fuck one day I'll manage to get my points across without writing a novel)

[Anonymous No.3203284]

>>3202332
Honestly we need a discord just for people like us.

[Anonymous No.3203342]

>>3202636
Find one of those generators (color, animal. prompt, etc.) and just do something based off that. Even if it's boring as shit, it's still something.

[Anonymous No.3203359]

>tfw im trash and i make zero effort to get better
brehs why is it so hard to git gud

[Anonymous No.3203371]

I've been on a kick of rediscovering artists and general content creators that I used to love when I was young. Turns out that all of them progressed very slowly, and struggled like fuck with all sorts of mental, financial, familial and social problems the whole way. Every single one.

I know every human has problems but there seems to be a distinct difference in the mindset, the depressive self-loathing, the dragging and fighting tooth and nail against every moment's desire to give up trying among certain people. Sometimes I wonder if maybe there really is some cosmic or otherwise force which draws people like me to admire or group together with people like them without ever knowing more about their life or selves until later. Maybe it shows subconsciously in their work.

If I wanted to play armchair psychologist, I might suggest that our feelings of powerlessness in the myriad facets of our lives drive us to a point of necessity for creation regardless of whether there is any skill or ingenuity involved. Do you ever get this feeling, this nervous impulse, especially when you've been slacking, that you have to produce something or your whole life will have been wasted?

I'm obviously severely mentally ill but I guess what I'm getting at is that it seems I have always been among my fellows without realizing it. And now I'm here, so

At least we aren't alone in that sense

[Anonymous No.3203389]

>Finally finish a drawing for the first time in months
>I myself am very proud of this and can see the gains compared to pieces from stuff earlier in the year
>Share it and get ignored

I mean damn I know I haven't always been the most popular in my circle of artists and friends but I was completely slept on today.
Anyone else have a hard time being noticed? Normally I wouldn't care about the attention but considering I want art to be my career I sadly sort of do need people to take notice of my work and that isn't happening.

[Anonymous No.3203440]

>tfw one of my moral tenets is to never give up
>tfw it gets harder everyday to believe in myself

>but that single anon/follower that hopes you create more art
I'll make it just for you buddy I swear I will.

[Anonymous No.3203444]

>>3203389
hate that feel

[Anonymous No.3203445]

>>3203389
It's generally harder to get your hard noticed if you're not doing fanart of popular shit or drawings involving aesthetic elements that appeal to the Tumblr teen audience. Where do you share your drawings?

[Anonymous No.3203450]

>>3203440
>that follower who is really happy that you drew them fetish art involving an obscure character that you also like
>get a reply back about how they're really happy, and how they were afraid that I was going to judge them because the fetish is not something everyone likes, and they wish me a good day
>feels good man

[Anonymous No.3203478]

I need an internet art friend to hold me accountable for doing my practice/studies for 8 hours every day and talk to me during my breaks (in my schedule I have 2 breaks, one of 1 hour and other of half hour) but I'm very shy, no way I'm ever going to show my face or talk with a mic. I'm also not really good at talking about most of things, I don't really watch netflix, keep up with world news, go to movies, or anything like that. I just play old games, read comics sometimes and of course, draw. ...And my english is kinda bad. I want someone who's down with just typing like in skype or something but I'm afraid this is too specific. Why I have to be such a pussy.

[Anonymous No.3203508]

>>3203440
ill follow u too

[Anonymous No.3203510]

>>3203478
Kind of going through similar situation.
Few weeks ago met a girl through mutual friend who wants to be concept artist and we're more or less around same level in terms of art, though her coloring inches ahead of me just a bit.
She's first person I've met in person who has a similar style to me, we have similar goals and we're practically same level, I wish we could be much closer and be like art rivals or some shit
But sadly she always seems disinterested hanging out outside of campus and is always playing video games or talking to her discord friends
>Tfw never gonna have art rival to constantly push you forward and encourage you to make gainz

[Anonymous No.3203511]

I don't have the personality or mindset of an artist. I only started learning to draw because I like anime and video games.

[Anonymous No.3203512]

>>3203284
>>3202332
>>3203478

we have a small google hangout, 4-5~ people on good days 2-3~ on avergae. all we do is grind. discord is gay with the channels so no one focuses. we like it simple if yall want in drop me an email

[Anonymous No.3203527]

>>3203512
Fuck I don't use google services can we pls discord?

[Anonymous No.3203528]

Email?

[Anonymous No.3203529]

>>3203478
i’m interested. what’s your skype?

[Anonymous No.3203530]

>>3203510
>Tfw never gonna have art rival to constantly push you forward and encourage you to make gainz
Tell me about it. In my case, I wish I had a buddy who also want to make a comic and would be okay with us talking for 1-3 (max) hours every day. But really, any kind of friendly art rival would be great.

>>3203512
I'll think about it, but I tend to "fade" in groups. I just never say anything because they usually are talking about something I don't know about. I think it would be easier if it was just me and someone else. But thanks for the offer. Maybe I'll drop an email later.

[Anonymous No.3203536]

https://discord.gg/z8Nkp3

I made this, whoever wanna joins.
I'm like >>3203478, relatively shy and terrible spoken english so I might not use mic until some time.

[Anonymous No.3203537]

>>3203276
Successful people became successful early.

[Anonymous No.3203539]

>>3203512
>>3203528
Seconding, Or temp mail if you don't want to expose your identity on the 4chins.

[Anonymous No.3203542]

>>3203539
>>3203528
i meant drop me your email so i can send you the link

[Anonymous No.3203545]

>>3203537
Why?
That's probably what we've been taught, but nothing says we can't be successful if we work hard.

[Anonymous No.3203559]

>>3203529
I used my gmail to make a skype account: [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.3203732]

>>3203537
How early is "early" and how late is too late?

[Anonymous No.3203741]

>>3203732
Early twenties at most, because they're talented and they peaked early

[Anonymous No.3203915]

>Tell a mutual that I'm disgusted about how many loli/underage requests I've been getting
>"oh but what is wrong with that? it's just fictional bro"

Into the trash

[Anonymous No.3203925]

Probably no one actually cares but just in case, I deleted the Discord serv cause I believe it's actually only a distraction and won't be much more useful than posting around here for feedback. Feel free to make another one or something if needed. Back to work.

[Anonymous No.3203926]

>>3203925
You faggot, why would you do that? Other people were still on there and using it.

[Anonymous No.3203959]

>>3203915
more work for me.

[Anonymous No.3203985]

>>3203915
They're right though.

[Anonymous No.3203988]

>>3203915
Maybe you shouldn't draw them so much then

[Anonymous No.3203991]

>>3203915
Porn in general is trash

[Anonymous No.3203992]

>>3203991
Wrong post?

[Anonymous No.3203997]

>>3203926
Chill, just make a new one.

[Anonymous No.3204003]

>>3203992
What?

[Anonymous No.3204005]

>>3203988
Problem is that I've never drawn any loli or underage, but I keep on getting requests asking me to draw it

>"Your style is lovely, I'd love to see Mabel from Gravity Falls getting pounded in the pussy, please!"
>"Can you draw Connie from Steven Universe getting fucked by an enemy after losing to them"

[Anonymous No.3204054]

>>3204005
I never got any creepy request, but this shit is why I quit posting funny animals a la Don Bluth. I just want to attract the least amount of creeps as possible and that was giving me furry followers.

[puts No.3204089]

Not so new server that is changing directions
The focus is bullying people into drawing and getting bullied into drawing:
https://discord.gg/T37ch

[Anonymous No.3204095]

HELLO PLEASE STOP THE DISCORDs
thank you

[Anonymous No.3204196]

>4 years out of high school
>living with girlfriend
>Parents paying for expensive art school because I want a career in film and animation
>Stress every day about how unreliable that is as a career and the amount of debt I'll end up having due to student loans
>Fight the desire to give up dreams and become a plumber or electrical engineer
>Feel like no matter what option I take, I'll be miserable

am I depressed

[Anonymous No.3204211]

>been getting noticed by a lot of artists who are better than me the last couple of months
I feel so blessed, but my art is shit so I can't help but feel I don't deserve this luck at the same time. Some kind of imposter syndrome.

[Anonymous No.3204431]

>>3203530
>Comic
What kind of comic?

[Anonymous No.3204438]

>>3201874
>That feel when some doodle you made when not even trying is easily the best thing you have ever drawn and you can't reproduce it if you try.

[Anonymous No.3204449]

>>3204089
>man makes a server
>man steps down or vanishes
>woman takes over and changes things

That is the 2nd server in /ic/ history to do this.

[Anonymous No.3204453]

>>3203732
Most people don't start their actual career until their 30's, in all areas of work. Your 20's are for learning, experimenting, and exploring. If you're still in your 20's, and are anxious about not making it, slow the fuck down. Relax.
Yes, there are people who make it earlier. That's them. Focus on you. Your story is going to be yours. Just because someone else "makes it" earlier, doesn't mean you can't. The world doesn't work that way.

[Anonymous No.3204455]

>>3204453
>Most people don't start their actual career until their 30's
Source? Everyone I know started in their twenties or right after they graduate school.

[Anonymous No.3204460]

>>3202875
Good god you people are so black and white

[Anonymous No.3204471]

>>3204455
He's saying your solid career won't doesn't tend to start until your 30s. Lots of people in their 20s still bounce between jobs and seeing what they like best.

[Anonymous No.3204473]

>>3204460
It's not like they ever taught about the in-betweens, they just say you don't want to be in there.

[Anonymous No.3204504]

>>3204449

[TLDR drawings/belongings/every(...) No.3204612]

I have a terrible feel to share.
Today, in the morning, after a 12 hour overnight someone stole my work bag, in which I keep major references for my work, my lecture notes, my wallet, and other important personal items. All in all I lost my credit card, debit card, $300 calculator, two pencil sets, my first comic that I drew, references for said project, reference photos for my art midterm, new sharpener and eraser, a water bottle, my old gifts from a Japanese student I use as motivation, and my dignity.

I work as a security guard, and I'm broken now. My midterm is due in a few hours I'm not even halfway done, haven't started the art homework assignment, the animation I was working on is now not even at square 1. Its behind square 1, because square 1 came with references. I have nothing, I lost it all, it was my main giant sketchbook.

Don't care for the other belongings, just give me my art back, it feels like I've been punched in the gut, I lost a part of me, and I'm sitting here smoking at 2AM with no drive, no soul, just despair and anguish over the lost. Inb4 "lmao cant change the past" yes, thats great, but imagine someone took a part of your history and deleted it.

Imagine someone deleted your major works for the last year and only YOU remember their existence, all else is forgotten. It hurts anons. It hurts so bad. I just want to see my work again.

[Anonymous No.3204615]

>>3204612
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/mastering-the-art-of-letting-go

[Anonymous No.3204619]

>>3204612
Isn't there surveillance

[Anonymous No.3204658]

>>3204612
I stole it.

eat shit faggot!!

[Anonymous No.3204687]

>>3204612
Shit that actually pisses me off.
My art sucks donkey dick and I don't even go to art school even still if that happened I would be pissed off.

[Anonymous No.3204732]

>Drawing in the metro everyday since I have 5 minutes to get to class
>Cute grill sits diagonally to me, with her friend in front of her while they chat
>I process to sketch her face
>EYE CONTACT
>She gets back to her friend and says something in polish
>I'm studing abroad, so I speak no polish
>They both get up and move to another wagon
>Tfw I'm a creep stalker

I thought when you draw on the metro people approched you, but I had 0 people asking me to see anything in 2 months. Am I that ugly and creepy?

[Anonymous No.3204740]

>>3204732
Maybe they weren't moving but getting off the metro instead? Also you shouldn't care, you were just sketching a face you thought interesting.

[Anonymous No.3204743]

>>3204732
I find that the best way to go about sketching is to be open about it, without leering ofc or insisting too much on a single person. When I'm sitting I just hunt for heads and make half a minute / one minute sketches. If someone makes eye contact I just look away and finish the drawing. Sometimes I joke about the people I'm drawing with the person sitting next to me if I see them leaning, or I tell them who I'm drawing and I draw them as a caricature to see if I can make 'em chuckle

But in any case you're just sketching people, it's nothing to be ashamed about

[Anonymous No.3204745]

>>3204740
Why would you go to another wagon to get out of the metro? There's doors on every wagon

[Anonymous No.3204747]

>>3204211
>Get followed by an artist I like
>They unfollow me a month later

I'm sorry

[Anonymous No.3204750]

>>3204745
I used to change wagons before the stop so I'd end up closer to the exit without having to push through tons of people marching out

[Anonymous No.3205193]

>Some stranger starts up a chat with me on Tumblr
>I'm a fucking pussy who thinks it'd be rude to ignore someone
>Reply to them
>Already know where this is gonna head towards
>After a few days of talking it finally hits that moment
>"so um i know your requests are closed, but i was wondering if you could do me a request anyway, since we're mutuals"
>every fucking time

How do I learn to be more assertive?

[Anonymous No.3205207]

>>3205193

>doing requests

that's your problem right there, anon

[Anonymous No.3205275]

>>3204732
Maybe she was just shy. Most people here either don't give a fuck, don't want to be a nuisance or are too shy to approach

[Anonymous No.3205343]

I contacted an amazing artist who's in the comic industry and he accepted to look at my comic art.

I always had ideas for stories but now that I have someone who's willing to check my work I can't think of ANYTHING.

SOMEONE HELP

[Anonymous No.3205384]

>>3205193
What are requests? Free work?

[Anonymous No.3205394]

>>3205384

Yep, just like in drawthreads were people request their fav characters to be drawn

[Anonymous No.3205439]

>>3204612
I know it must be hard but at leastt the art you had in here (if that's what worries you the most) can be replaced with a better version, because you're better now.
Also if it was digital, you probably should learn to make copies on clouds or something from now on just in case you lost it for whatever reason. (even if it was traditional, actually making a copy on digital can save you)

>>3204732
Stop acting creepy, ashamed/like you've been caught in the act. Most of the time if you're confident, grills will at least be nice.

[Anonymous No.3205540]

>>3205343
Post ur work.

[Anonymous No.3205576]

Do you actually enjoy drawing the better you get at it?

Because as a complete beginner "draw what you like" feels like a fucking meme.If I hate drawing because I'm bad at it then h ow am I going to enjoy drawing stuff I actually care about?

[Anonymous No.3205579]

I don't know what my goals in art are.
I just started drawing awhile back. Its fun, I do sorta want to get better but I can't find the effort and the desire isn't particularly strong.
Lately I've been feeling pretty shitty so I've been doodling more again but it's still pretty much all shit and that just fuels the shitty feelings killing motivation even more.

And to brighten the day of anyone else. This is the current skill level of someone who's been drawing for years.

[Anonymous No.3205680]

>>3205540
I'm garbage. I have a lot to learn.

[Anonymous No.3205686]

>>3204449
what's the other server?

[Anonymous No.3205702]

>>3205579
i think thats really cute be my art friend

[Anonymous No.3205704]

>>3205576

I know the feel.

I used to have a pretty strong urge to draw, but hated actually drawing because I sucked. I tried tutorials and followed a lot of well intentioned advice from various blogs and websites. It all made me more miserable.

The key is to say fuck it. Fuck the tutorials. Fuck DeviantArt and Tumblr (or wherever kids post art these days). Draw what you want, the way you want and don't take any of it too seriously. Draw something, laugh at it and just keep drawing. Stop trying to make 'good' drawings and start making 'enjoyable' drawings.

You WILL get better. It's all about putting the time in. The most important thing is to make sure you actually want to put that time in. Eventually you'll start caring about perspective and light sources and shit, but at that point it's because you want to, not because you feel like you should.

[Anonymous No.3205706]

>>3202020
Here's the drawing referenced in the comic, in case anyone's curious.

[Anonymous No.3205708]

>Read all the loomis books
>still don't know how to draw

[Anonymous No.3205750]

>>3202253
fukkin saved thanks amigo

[Anonymous No.3205769]

>>3205576
>Do you actually enjoy drawing the better you get at it?
it gets worse when you start hitting plateaus

[Anonymous No.3205797]

>>3203151
It's worse when you see something and have the sudden realization that someone created something/did something in the work that you never even thought was possible. You realize this isn't just about grinding skills up to a point that you can see in the distance, you realize that there are whole other worlds of creative potential that you aren't even aware of.

[Anonymous No.3205799]

>>3204196
At least you have a gf you retarded faggot. A relationship will help you stave off insanity and depression and you will probably be more successful because of it.

[Anonymous No.3205804]

>>3205680
You are garbage, but that's okay. You could be hireable in as little as 2 years if you really put in the effort. But realistically it will take you 7-10 from where you're at.

I don't get it though, you wanted to show him your art, so you had art to show him to begin with, right? So what are you not coming up with? Why do you need story ideas?

Also, if you are smart, you should be able to come up with lots of concepts with a few days of thinking. Further, if you live your life and grind for 5 years, you will have plenty of ideas to work on hahaha :D

[Anonymous No.3205839]

>>3203536
>https://discord.gg/z8Nkp3

Pls new link

[Anonymous No.3205870]

I got sick and tired of the low quality, low brow garbage, people were drawing on the bathroom stalls at my work. So I tried to raise the standard

[Anonymous No.3205873]

I got sick and tired of the low quality, low brow garbage, people were drawing on the bathroom stalls at my work. So I tried to raise the standard while staying on theme

[Anonymous No.3205965]

>>3205804
>But realistically it will take you 7-10 from where you're at.
I don't have all this time. I'll make it next year. Somehow.

>hahaha :D
Or you just shitting on me.

[Anonymous No.3206108]

>>3205702
thanks 'non, 'preciate it

[Anonymous No.3206198]

>gesture and line confidence when making quick doodles is alright but the drawing itself is riddled with mistakes and often unreadable
>when trying to make things look proper retrogress back to chicken scratching and stiffness
How to fix this?

[Anonymous No.3206204]

>>3206198
>unreadable
That might be your problem. You need a somewhat clean sketch to know where your lines are supposed to go. Some artists don't need it and can make quick lineart out of a mess, but if your own sketches are unreadble to you chances you get confused by it and question every line.

[Anonymous No.3206300]

>>3205965
That was insane laughter, not mocking laughter. You really will come up with lots of ideas in that time if you aren't a complete idiot.

I've been doing illustration for about 8 years and I have a huge backlog of ideas to work on. I just can't do the work as fast as I can come up with ideas, mostly beause I'm lazy and slow and like to finish things properly.

[Anonymous No.3206309]

>>3206300
>That was insane laughter, not mocking laughter.
Ah, alright.

It's amazing you been working on this field for 8 years. Can I see your work, man?

[Anonymous No.3206312]

I want to get into drawing so I can support my favorite artist who's inspired me, but I struggle to find and maintain the motivation to actually git gud at art. The guy being so obscure makes it hurt even more. It makes me feel powerless.

[Anonymous No.3206320]

>>3205873
Good job anon. Now you have more probabilities to get fired, so you will have more time to Neet and grind those anatomy fundies that you lack

[Anonymous No.3206324]

>>3206312
Suppport them with your money and reblog the shit outta them.

[Anonymous No.3206333]

>>3206324
>Implying I don't do that already

[Anonymous No.3206366]

>>3206320
I can only hope

[Anonymous No.3206426]

>draw character
>everyone says it's good
>turns out you drew the wrong character and no-one noticed.

[Anonymous No.3206429]

>>3206333
Is he actually ill

[Anonymous No.3206434]

>>3206429
Find out for yourself, if you're interested
https://bato.to/comic/_/comics/hana-no-kishi-dakini-r22494

[Anonymous No.3206441]

>>3206434
Is this /ic/ the manga

[Anonymous No.3206445]

>>3206441
>claims to have drawn SO MUCH
>actually barely touched his sketchbook
>depressedfag
>lolicon

It’s uncanny.

[Anonymous No.3206484]

>>3206441
>>3206445
You'd be pretty bummed out too if one minute you're painting and the next you're standing over the rubble of the building you were just in

[Anonymous No.3207005]

Scared to start drawing/sketching a pose cuz I know it won't turn out good

[Anonymous No.3207074]

>>3203450
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.3207192]

>>3205708
you are supposed to draw to learn how to draw anon

[Anonymous No.3207216]

>tfw I drew today after being scared to go back to it for a long time
It's not a big accomplishment, but I drew a couple of sketch type things. I'm glad I did.

[Anonymous No.3207222]

>>3203539
[e-mail]

Please deliver

[Anonymous No.3207232]

>>3206300
>>3206309
Hmm... Anon? Can I see your work?

[Anonymous No.3207273]

>>3207232
>>3206309
Oh hi. Ok.

http://christianfrederiksen.com/

Actually getting work for 6 years, the first two were just me doing personal work.

[Anonymous No.3207274]

toxic masculinity will actually hold you back as an artist. too much worrying.

accept that artists are best as gamma males. outliers. not masculine, not feminine. you shitlord.

[Anonymous No.3207283]

>>3203389
make more drawings in a month anon

[Anonymous No.3207288]

>>3203389
I make half my income with illustration, but all my shit gets ignored too.

I've noticed the fastest way to get noticed is to make fan art or refer to something in culture. I've had a couple blog posts reach thousands of notes that way on the odd occasions where I did something like that, but most of my shit gets 0-20. You could probably do well by gaining thousands of followers by using some kind of follow back strategy, but you would do much better to directly contact people who might hire you.

Honestly, just forget about social media and focus on art.

[Anonymous No.3207289]

>tfw never satisfied with the quality of work so you rarely update blogs and such

[Anonymous No.3207295]

>can't get my commission work done fast enough to really be making enough profit
>tell everyone I'm living off my illustrator's wages
>im only making like 300-600 dollars a month and living off my boyfriend and foodstamps

[Anonymous No.3207299]

>>3207295
Haha, stop lying to people and your soul will be set right. $300 a mo. is a great start. Give your bf lots of nice blowjobs.

[Anonymous No.3207302]

>>3207295
How do I make 300-600$ a month?

[Anonymous No.3207336]

>tfw I now have the writing and drawing skills for a webcomic, but I just really don't want to share my story with anyone because I've been working on getting the skills to make this thing for over 10 years and it's a bit like exposing myself to the public at this point
I...am not quite sure what the journey was for, but it was a fun one! I think I'm going to do a couple of short story comics. Maybe one day I'll be brave enough to share my big, grand story with others. Probably not. I really do want to draw it though, even if I'm the only one who sees it in the end.

[Anonymous No.3207349]

>worked really hard through august and september
>been improving gradually since I decided to take drawing seriously back in january
>yet the progress feels so slow I just get demotivated
>recent news that I won't be able to study animation due to money are hitting me hard
>slowly getting back into it after not drawing for like three weeks
Slumps are hard, and I don't know how am I going to do with the non-art career I'm taking next January. Right now I just hope I can get to a good enough level to start doing commissions sometime next year, I don't have many friends and it seems this new year's is going to be lonely. The future is scary but even if it's hard I feel like I can pull through, I hope I'm right.

[Anonymous No.3207396]

I don't think I'll ever be able to make art friends, or even friends at all. Maybe it's because I think this way that it manifests in reality, but whenever I do try to interact with people I'm usually disappointed. I think I'm just an asshole.

[Anonymous No.3207410]

>>3207396
>tfw make "art friends" all the time
>ghost them because it's too much effort
>become lonely again
>deal with the fact that it's likely more worth it this way

[Anonymous No.3207411]

>>3204612
NOT THE WATER BOTTLE

[Anonymous No.3207415]

>>3204612
Definitely try to speak to your prof/teacher about this anon. I'm sure they'll understand and grant you some sort of extension or exemption. Just explain it to them like you did on here, it's not your fault my man. It's a really shitty situation that I wouldn't wish on anyone, can't imagine how you must feel lad. Best of luck.

[Anonymous No.3207443]

>start drawing porn for those assbucks
>still new to it, figuring stuff out
>its going well

and then

>SO and I get into a blazing argument (not about the porn)
>neighbors call the cops
>god fucking dammit we fucked up
>they take us in separate rooms and try to make us say we hit each other or whatever
>then comes my crucial mistake
>I go and sit down at my desk, cop follows
>I forgot I was in the middle of drawing Mercy sucking Pharah's huge cock in my sketchbook
>its sitting there open for at least a minute and I don't notice
>cop keeps looking at my desk and eventually I REMEMBER
>I look over in horror and make a far-too-quick effort to turn over the sketchbook
>its too late, he's seen everything
>he kind of clears his throat and says "its fine"
>MFW

today was pretty shitty.

[Anonymous No.3207445]

>>3207443
A man of patrician taste. Probably wouldn't have been the same with a woman cop.

[Anonymous No.3207448]

>>3207443
>just minding your own business
>SO decides to start shit for no reason whatsoever and doesn't stop
>just continues to fuel the flames and provoke you
Every single time

[Anonymous No.3207480]

>Get many chances to show my sketchbook to industry professionals
>Stand in line, ready to show
>Look back at my art
>Panic
>Feel unqualified for the eyes of these pros
>Chicken out
>Walk out of line and go home
>Regret it every time

[Anonymous No.3207602]

>>3207480
This is how you'll never make it. Success is a lot of things, but one of the big things is taking opportunities, when they come up. You could have had a pivotal moment with a professional, but you gave it up.
The pros aren't expecting professional quality work. They know it's going to range from absolute beginner to polished work. They aren't goiing to make fun of you, they're going to give you advice. You blew a valuable interaction, because you're scared.

That's the difference between making it, and not making it. Stop being afraid, take chances, and follow opportunities. Or sit here for 10 years and post despair threads.

[Anonymous No.3207606]

>drawing got boring and frustrating
>feelings of never going to make it
>diagnosed with dysthimia
I'm gonna start taking pills soon. I hope things get better from here
Also I need a new pair of glasses

[Anonymous No.3207624]

I don't even know what I hope to achieve with drawing. It's something I want to do, but something I'm not having fun with. I don't even know how to explain this feeling

[Anonymous No.3207634]

I started drawing in high school in 2012 and I kept it up for about a year and a half. Then I drew only intermittently. Then a few months ago I started really drawing again. I wish I didn't make the retarded fucking choice of not keeping it up the whole time. I think I could have been okay by now with 5 years of solid experience under my belt.

[Anonymous No.3207674]

>>3205193
I've had this happen. This is an example from what I said:
"Thanks! And please don't take this the wrong way, but with how things are, I can't exactly stay for a chat. I would prefer to keep everything strictly business. I hope you understand."

[Anonymous No.3207710]

>>3207443
Serves you right for being a degenerate

[Anonymous No.3207714]

>Used to draw a lot but became more and more anxious because of pressure and NGMI
>Become suicidal and shit
>Taking lots of pills for therapy
>Now feeling fine but I'm always sleepy and I can't draw
fml

[Anonymous No.3207717]

>>3205193
here just copy paste this every time someone ask

"sorry, I can't take your request"

[Anonymous No.3207726]

>>3207717
But why not?

[Anonymous No.3207730]

>>3207726
here just copy paste this next

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.3207746]

>>3204612
If it helps, Hemingway had a big portmanteau full of unpublished manuscripts stolen at one point earlier in his life. He kept living, and made something out of himself too. Maybe this example will encourage you, maybe not.

[Anonymous No.3207754]

>>3207710
do you know where you are?

[Anonymous No.3207789]

you guys are too real, I come here to suppress my problems

[Anonymous No.3207793]

>>3203478
>literally me
>but too beta to contact you

[Anonymous No.3207799]

>>3203512
If you ever decide to switch over to Discord, then I'd love to join

[Anonymous No.3207815]

>finally find a cute black grilling who draws cute things
>embarrassed to friend her

How do I find the courage to send a friend request?

[Anonymous No.3207817]

>>3207815
>finally
have you been fantasizing about having a black girlfriend?

[Anonymous No.3207821]

>>3207817

No, I just want a friend who is a girl who is black who draws things I like and is actually good looking and not a fatty.

[Anonymous No.3207824]

>>3207821
why?

[Anonymous No.3207825]

>>3207824

so she can pretend shes my sister and she can give me tips on drawing

[Anonymous No.3207830]

>>3207825
give me her profile, ima steal her

[Anonymous No.3207831]

>>3207825
Well if you're black, she won't need to pretend anything

[Anonymous No.3207833]

>>3207830
back off buddy
>>3207831
well that's true

[Anonymous No.3207835]

>>3207833
we both know you're just gonna pussyfoot around her for months, let's save us both the trouble

[Anonymous No.3207837]

>>3207835
Even if I do I will feel better not giving my imouto to you.

[Anonymous No.3207855]

>>3201874
did someone say obscure feels thread?
>be me
>draw every single day for 3 years
>do acid 2017 new years
>trip tells me that art is a dead end and wont result in anything
>get psychosis
>get diagnosed schizophrenic
>pills make it hard to draw
>get on different pills but still don't draw for 11 months
>just now getting back into drawing
>still know deep down that I'm wasting my time but still do it because it was literally the only thing keeping me from killing myself and I'm getting really depressed now

sure is looking d e p r e s s i n g in here

[Anonymous No.3207861]

>>3207855
post work

[Anonymous No.3207869]

>>3207855
You are not even slightly enlightened

[Anonymous No.3207880]

>>3207861
Kms
>>3207869
What

[Anonymous No.3207883]

>>3207861
for record, this is how I used to be doing

[Anonymous No.3207894]

>>3207880

Are you sure you've been drawing every day? That looks like a months practice out of /beg/.

[Anonymous No.3207895]

>>3207894
well if you could read you'd know that I haven't drawn for the past 11 months

[Anonymous No.3207901]

>>3207895

Your skill shouldn't have deteriorated that badly.

[Anonymous No.3207904]

>>3207901
well psychosis and antipsychotics fuck with you a lot. antipsychotics deteriorate your grey matter which is a big thing for memory. I'm only taking them because I have to by law or else I'll get sent back to the hospital and be force fed pills.
tl;dr pills and schizo are deteriorating brain, art skills fall.
/blog

[Anonymous No.3207905]

>>3207904

And this is why I don't trust (((medication))), you're the example no offense.

[Anonymous No.3207907]

>>3207905
What do the (((brackets))) mean?

[Anonymous No.3207909]

>>3207905
I know I'm the example but at least I get to use it as an advantage and get the govt. to pay for me to just exist and never have to work a day in my life, and get to focus on what I really enjoy doing. on the downside, I get to slowly rot away and watch myself become a shell of my former self

>>3207907
da joos

[Anonymous No.3207908]

>>3207855
>drugs
>ever

[Anonymous No.3207911]

>>3207907
You're already psychotic, no need for your sake to go down that rabbit hole

[Anonymous No.3207912]

>>3207911
that wasn't me, also have already gone down that rabbit hole

[Anonymous No.3207930]

>>3207909
Anon have you ever considered that the greatest impediment against your progress isn't the funny pills but your assertion that they make you incapable of learning? I doubt that no one who takes antipsychotics has gotten good at something, but I don't know of anyone who got good at something when they had absolutely no confidence in their ability to improve at it. You know by having unlimited free time AND financial independence you're in a much better situation than a lot of aspiring artists despite your illness, but even then people love an "insane" artist so that will work well for you once you get good

[Anonymous No.3207933]

>>3207930
I don't think I can't git guud just that it's going to be a difficult road that'll most likely end in failure just like almost everybody else on this board

[Anonymous No.3207940]

>>3207933
>that'll most likely end in failure

If you draw intensively for 10,000 hours your odds of being good is 100% unless you're retarded which you're not

[Anonymous No.3207981]

I'm upset with myself because my limit is 10 hours drawing (i take breaks of 1 hour or 30 minutes every 4 hours). In this 10 hours I was able to draw 23 poses. How I draw faster?

[Anonymous No.3207985]

>>3207981
post work. how finished is each "pose"

[Anonymous No.3207990]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FUCK

ART
FUUUUUUUCKKKK

[Anonymous No.3207996]

>>3207985
Here's 9 of them. I need to scan the rest.

[Anonymous No.3208008]

>>3207996
are these from reference or imagination? either way you seem to be getting diminishing returns, you gotta hit your fundies a bit more. work through some /beg/ books

[Anonymous No.3208009]

>>3207996
Pick up Vilppu's drawing manual. I feel it'd help you become more efficient in creating poses, from reference or not, and help you become a bit faster in doing them.

[Anonymous No.3208014]

>Open porn blog some months ago
>End up developing a different style for lewd drawings so none of my friends from my casual main art blog would recognize me
>Different expressions, coloring, shading, more variety in line widths, etc.
>Months later compare my sfw casual style and porn blog style
>lewd style looks a lot better

Where did I fuck up

[Anonymous No.3208021]

>>3207940
Define "good".

If you spend 10k hours drawing the same thing, over and over, you're good at drawing that one thing, not everything.

If you spend 10k hours on line work, you won't be good at shading.

the 10k thing only applies to the skill of draftsmanship. It doesn't automatically give you the reward of inspiration, talent, and passion.

What you do during those 10k hours is just as important as doing the hours. But since so many here don't understand, they focus on the hours alone, and now it's become this strange, twisted race to log hours, which only ensures burnout, not mastery. And, of course, the attempts to cheese the hours, and no reflection on the actual work being done.

If I hammer nails for 10k hours, all I am is good at hammering nails, doesn't mean I can build a house.

[Anonymous No.3208034]

>>3208008
Reference, I'm using posemaniacs. Please explain what you mean by "diminishing returns" and tell me what /beg/ books I should pick up.

>>3208009
I will.

[Anonymous No.3208046]

>>3208014
should have just embraced your lewd side without separating it.

[Anonymous No.3208048]

>tfw you stay in your room grinding fundies but to your parents you're just "sitting on that damn computer all day doing nothing"

damn I wish I could move out

[Anonymous No.3208049]

>>3208048
Why can't you?

[Anonymous No.3208056]

>>3208048

same but technically our parents are right

for if they were right we'd be able to cut them rent money each month or better yet, move out.

[Anonymous No.3208057]

>>3208048
show them your work then retard

[Anonymous No.3208059]

>>3208056
weren't right*

[Anonymous No.3208078]

>>3208021
>he thinks he knows as if he's done 10k hours before
ngmi

[Anonymous No.3208083]

>>3208021
The 10k number is a rule of thumb for not complete autists. No normal human spends 10k hours hammering nails over and over, the vast majority would try to seek new challenges due to being bored of the tedium.

[Anonymous No.3208282]

damn you guys are real fucking problematic hm?
Thank god I just draw as a hobby

[Anonymous No.3208287]

>>3208282
/ic/ wants to draw as a hobby, but they are so autisticly obsessed with getting gud that they just sit here and talk about drawing instead of actually drawing
like me :/

[Anonymous No.3208290]

>>3208282
Consider yourself lucky

[Anonymous No.3208303]

>>3201874
How humans went from painting Gods in a photorealistic to drawing shitty anime girls?

[Anonymous No.3208306]

>>3208303
not sure but I'm glad it happened. I love anime

[Anonymous No.3208311]

>>3208303
in 100 years humans will be wondering how did we go form painting anime girls to whatever is the fancy of the future

[Anonymous No.3208313]

>>3208311
my typos shit I need to go to take a nap

[Anonymous No.3208317]

>>3208311
The Renaissance artists certainly didn't think that way about middle age art

[Anonymous No.3208360]

>>3207883
>>3207880
Anon that's really not bad. I don't know why that person is giving you a hard time. You do look really amateur though when you post studies that arn't scanend or even flipped the right way instead of beginner work. Keep that in mind.
it sounds like you've been through hell, I'm sorry to hear that.

[Anonymous No.3208373]

>>3201874
I have severe OCD and sometimes I'll get piss scared I'll never be able to draw again.

Just tonight I deleted some old crappy drawing due to some OCD and now I'm afraid again for some reason

It borders on schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.3208402]

>>3202001
>>3202006
>pursuing relationships also takes a lot out of your time too
fuck

[Anonymous No.3208417]

How do I cope being in a relationship when the person I have doesn't care about artwork or appreciate anything remotely creative. I want someone to build ideas with.

Have any other anons had this problem?

[Anonymous No.3208500]

This gesture bullshit makes my life a living hell.

[Anonymous No.3208722]

>That one autist who reblogs your nsfw art with commentary like "mmmmm i'd love for them to come over and ram that dick into my pussy!!" and "i'm starting to get horny and wet, so sexy!! time for some alone time... x3"
>How old is this fucker
>30 year old woman who writes long fanfics of getting impregnated by their favorite fictional characters

I regret reading comments on my lewds

[Anonymous No.3208744]

>>3208722
>kink shaming your biggest fans
Shit form brah

[Anonymous No.3208755]

>>3208722
Be grateful it's not some old fag talking about his dick

[Anonymous No.3208780]

>>3208744
She only reblogs the few every once in a while that has her favorite character. I don't think I'd really mind the comments if she only left them to reblogs, but she also has the tendency to message me about her bizarre fantasies, and she tries to '''sneakily''' ask me whether I want to draw pictures of her getting fucked as freebies

[Anonymous No.3209156]

>tfw for the first time in months I'll be alone at home
>tfw I'm tied between masturbating or killing myself so I can end my suffering of sucking at art

[Anonymous No.3209526]

>>3201981
I'm going to assume that you are in the service at least partly because you are from a lower socioeconomic background (no shame in it, I'm a veteran myself) and it's unlikely that you have a commission.

That said, I would strongly urge you to reconsider this goal. use your GI Bill to study something that will pay the bills and draw shit in your off time.

you're correct in assessing that deciding on this career path at a late stage could be a problem. unless you've been drawing for decades and are exceptionally talented, there's just not enough time in the day (week, month, year) for you to start cranking them out now and not be broke and miserable for the next decade.

[Anonymous No.3209658]

>>3201874

I've feel so stagnated with my Art, I've lost the passion for it. Since months i've been drawing every day whitout actually knowing what i wanna reach, im drawing for the sake of drawing.
Asking myself often what i wanna reach, like who i wanna be, why am I even doing this.
But i couldnt answer even one of those questions. Because I dont know anymore.
I havent improved alot in the last 5 months.
And my future is so blurred.

[Anonymous No.3209671]

I'm a type of person who has to show their art to everyone and gets actually sad if it doesn't get much recognition since my artistic 'skill' is the one thing that I am somewhat good at. I feel so bad about these emotions and if I just told someone they would call me an attention whore. I feel like a child trying to show their drawing to a drunken parent and when I get somewhat views or favourites or likes or comments, I feel like that drunken parent noticed my fine work and likes it.

[Anonymous No.3209676]

>going broke 6-8 months ago
>start doing comissions
>end up doing comissions for furries
>now semi-popular furry artist in 6 or so months
>furries are literal cancer but I need the $$$

end it

[Anonymous No.3209678]

>>3209676
get a job u faggot

[Anonymous No.3209685]

>>3209671
it's not wrong to like the attention you get for art. it does seem like you want the approval without actually liking it. you might want to examine yourself to see what psychological distress you're trying to dull with likes and comments. and try to enjoy drawing just for yourself.

[Anonymous No.3209727]

last night one of my friends told me that they loved my art and linked some piece of shit I drew. this has never happened before but for some reason that set me off. I started to cry lmao. I just said thanks and then logged off.
I think I have some kind of depression or something and it's partially due to my feelings of inadequacy with art on top of many other things. I accepted the fact that I'll never become popular or anything because I don't care about doing fanart or whoring myself on social media and that hurts a bit. but I'm starting to get this idea in my head, that the only reason I have the friends I do or the support I'm getting is because I initially approached other people in a friendly way. like either with gift art or just to chat. that's how I've made all of my friends no one has ever approached me. they are pretty much obligated to talk to me right?? because I forced them into it with gift art or w/e.
idk I've been having incredibly intrusive thoughts lately. I just can't get that feeling out of my head.
these feelings are getting perpetually worse. I'm crying over nothing so often. man idk

[Anonymous No.3209731]

>>3209526
Solid advice.

[Anonymous No.3209736]

>>3209676
It kinda feels reassuring to know that if I get desperate, I can fall back on furry/porn commissions.

[Anonymous No.3209738]

>>3209727
>I'm crying over nothing so often
Are you on medication?

[Anonymous No.3209742]

>>3209738
nothing at all and I don't plan on hopefully

[Anonymous No.3209780]

>>3204612

What kind of security guard has his bag stolen?

[Anonymous No.3209931]

>>3209780
One who is too focused on watching others people's shit to not watch his own. Must be very dedicated to his job, enough to sacrifice his own life.

[Anonymous No.3210072]

>>3209727
You're depressed. Get medical help, it's going to be better. I've been feeling like shit for years and now thankfully I'm starting to recover.

[Anonymous No.3210093]

>have no mental image of what I want to draw outside of "cute girls"
>cant image poses, hairstyles, anything
>cant focus on doing fundamentals because they bore me and all I want to do is draw cute girls
>stare at blank page and don't draw because I'd rather not draw than put in effort on something shitty
>whenever I draw something good I get really happy and it's a great feeling
Sometimes I wonder why I'm even alive.

[Anonymous No.3210356]

>>3210093
get back to grinding out your fundies, faggot. do it for her. every new fundie you learn, wonder "how can I apply this to cute girls." the longer you wait the further you'll be from them

[Anonymous No.3210376]

I'll contribute some:
>Senior year
>Flew right by both mandatory art classes from previous years
>Decided to take advanced art despite not needing to anymore
>In a shit school so I didn't expect any stress
>Class is full of ghetto kids who've never drawn in their lives
>Class also has two retarded kids who spew about Undertale 24/7
>I call them the Dumpy Duo
>Despite that, I still expected to learn about anatomy/art motivation
>All we do is baby-tier art assignments
>"""Advanced art class"""
>Current project is basket weavings of animals
>The fuck?
>Teacher gives us low-grade weaves and yarn
>I can't tie a knot for fucking shit
>One month left and I haven't even started it
>Most already have their basics done for the project
>Tell teacher that I am too stressed and want to get a schedule change
>It's like keyed her car or something
>"You're an artist, you shouldn't hate art class!"

Should I stay in that fuckhole or get out asap?

[Anonymous No.3210380]

>>3210093
Why not just do photo studies of cute girls until the appeal of advancing yourself further through raw fundies draws you in?

[Anonymous No.3210426]

>>3210376
befriend some of the nerds and get them to make your basket

[Anonymous No.3210431]

>>3210376
run

[Anonymous No.3210467]

>>3210356
>>3210380
What do I even grind though? Do I try to learn gesture, construction, what?
It's all confusing because I don't even know what it takes to make cute girls outside of "fundamentals" but that's such a wide variety of things.

[Anonymous No.3210475]

Visiting here

My biggest regret in life is never learning to draw

At this point it's too late to learn
I'd trade my academic success for drawing talent

[Anonymous No.3210483]

>>3210467
whatever your figures are lacking, go study that. proportions, perspective, proportions in perspective, basic figure construction, anatomy advanced construction, gesture, etc

>>3210475
It's never too late

[Anonymous No.3210485]

>>3210483
>it's never too late

I wouldn't know where to start. I wish a lot of things about me weren't true.

[Anonymous No.3210498]

My fear of art has intensified the last year and all my progress has halted to a stop and even atrophied.

Also I'm in community college and art students intimidate me even if they're less technically and aesthetically versed than me. I wish I could show my art to them without feeling like I'm being judged and torn apart (not talking critiques, but "oh, you really think you can pursue art?") or that I'm trying to show off. I can't even network because I feel like I'm a human impersonation.

[Anonymous No.3210581]

Fucking 3/4 views

[Anonymous No.3210584]

I really like my art but after just a few moments of appreciation, I realised all the flaws and awful mistakes ive made in the process and how the shading doesnt correspond with the light source and the line art is wack and all the layers are merged and I cant back out and I'm descending to hell.

[Anonymous No.3210587]

I give up. I could have made it if I weren't that old, or if I were that old but not that depressive.
It pains me so much to give up art. It's not fhe first time, but this one's for good.
I'll be happy for a few months not having the burden of working hard, but I know it'll end up come back haunting me.
Why the hell can't I just be a consumer, but not solid enough to be a creator either? This is hell.

[Anonymous No.3210712]

I had a secret homosexual lifestyle for 10 years. Deep inside I feel I have no future in that world and lifestyle. I never felt emotionally satisfied. I got rid of everything gay related (former college friends, gay friends etc) Thought I have quitted homosexuality since almost a year. I still have some vestiges of homosexual desires,random thoughts etc.
Sometimes I feel some sort of "sadness" inside me then it pass after a while comes back etc. I trying to star my life over I just wished I wasn´t so old (now 30).

[Anonymous No.3210715]

>>3210712
This is a feel thread but your posts should still be /ic/ related. Your post is better fit for /lgbt/ or /adv/ man. This has nothing to do with art

[Anonymous No.3210868]

>>3210584
The fact that you're able to recognize your mistakes is a good thing, and part of the artistic process. You'll learn to fix them, anon!

[Anonymous No.3210869]

>Run a small porn blog
>Half of it is popular stuff, the other half is more obscure stuff
>Fans of the obscure series are happy about having lewds of their favorites
>Feeling happy
>Also at the same time my brain is telling me to delete the blog

what the fuck

[Anonymous No.3210881]

>>3210712
>homosexual lifestyle
Why does this mean "being an STI ridden anal whore" 100% of the time?

[Anonymous No.3210885]

>>3210869
People who delete their blogs are worse than subhumans

[Anonymous No.3211183]

I'm sure this has been written here over 300 times already, but I'm all alone with my art persuit (everyone that I show things just say the normalfag approved "hey, it's great", which means literally nothing) and I need to vent a little

It's been about five months since I've began drawing seriously and a lot of progress has been made, but for about a month of so I'm feeling this dread that I'll never be better than a certain, very mediocre, point. These last few weeks all I've been doing is trying to find a style, and wondering about many, many technical problems, and I just can't draw anymore, because everyting to me it's shit, even if people say to me with smiles "damn, you drew that? :))"
I watch videos online trying to understand how pros go about their workflow, and even copying it 1:1, it comes out terrible, and I don't really know what to do. I can't enroll into an art school because I'm already studying neurobiology at college, which I also love, and all my art is done with the little free time I have between the lab and class duties. It's a terrible feeling.

[Anonymous No.3211203]

>>3211183
that sucks man. doesn't your college have an art department you can take your stuff to for critiques?

[Anonymous No.3211244]

>>3211203
Nah, I really don't think anybody there would bother with some random showing them his shitty drawings. I hope to eventually, somehow, break through this horrible period and be able to improve past /beg/.

[Anonymous No.3211485]

>>3210485
well, with that mindset, yeah. it is too late. go continue living your pathetic existence wishing you could do the things you want to do.

[Anonymous No.3211486]

>>3210485
obligatory read the fucking sticky.

[Anonymous No.3211513]

>>3211485
>>3211486
Why so mean

[Anonymous No.3211538]

>>3211244
don't make art in a vacuum

Read or study up on the philosophical side of art. Actually study the works of other artists. Identify specific things that they are doing and think about what effect that has. Analyze your own work similarly. Experiment with different ways of drawing. Look for your weak points and improve upon them. Don't be afraid of failure, either.

Since you're a beginner, you probably still need to work on your observational skills and technique, so don't get too caught up about "style".

[Anonymous No.3211540]

>>3211513
you'll understand once you start art-ing

>>3210587
>but this one's for good.
it's not. the itch never goes away. actually it might if you have kids.

>>3210498
just do it anyway, if they shit on it tell them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3211545]

>Make a semi-success game despite having really bad art
>Feel some pride, start improving my art
>People want more of what I produced but I feel like I wasn't good enough so I continuously delay it
>During the time read all sorts of art books
>Money dries up
>I can do human's and poses
>Time passed
>My backgrounds have gotten really good
>Finally decide it's time to make a spin-off
>Awful reviews, Glaring problems. Even the few small fans I have left leave
>Realize I spent too much time on Art and disregarded mechanics and general flow
>Start to hate Art
>Everyone around me who started later has become rich using the same systems I built up
>Cry myself to sleep for falling for the improve meme
>Realize if I just focused on quantity instead of quality like every other shmuck I would be rich now

It really hurts

[Anonymous No.3211558]

>Finally began "production" on comic I've been planning for months two days ago
>Didn't actually do anything besides try to get a better script for first few pages and storyboard on scrap pieces of paper
>Actually sketched out first 3 pages today and they were decent
What a nice feel.
I have to work on getting tighter scripts cause sketching process is so much more faster when I have a solid idea of what it is I'm paneling and drawing.
Hope all you other Anons are making nice progress with your projects. : )

[Anonymous No.3211593]

I’m too drunk to improve, but not drunk enough to improve!

[Anonymous No.3211610]

>>3211540
I don't know how to start

[Anonymous No.3211611]

>>3211540
>it's not. the itch never goes away.
I know ;_;
Make it go away, this shit is a curse and the worst feeling ever when you suck and you're burdened by severe depression
Not sure about the kids/family tho. I know I'd change my mind about it if this happened, but I also feel like I'd regret even more the time when I had free time to try something and didn't.
Sorry I'm such a crybaby, depression is shit.

[Anonymous No.3211948]

>Have a blog dedicated to gay nsfw art
>Long-time follower starts to ask me for women getting banged
>Tell her no, this is a gay blog
>"Why not? :( You could say that it's a pre-op transman, so that would make it ok ??"

I hate it when people do this

[Anonymous No.3211953]

>>3211948
Tell her to pay for it if she really wants to see it

[Anonymous No.3211960]

>>3211953
Suggested that to her a while ago

>"ohhh but i have no monies :("
>Think about suggesting an art trade so in a sense she'd trade some time of hers in exchange for the time I'd spent on the drawing
>Suggest it to her
>"well i dont know how to draw well xD"

[Anonymous No.3212174]

>wake up early to draw
>I'm feeling it. The energy to draw a lot
>9am comes
>I'm losing the energy. Suddenly it feels like I'm forgetting to draw
>can't draw anymore by 12
>barely drew for the day/not satisfied with the results early morning
>cry that I'm behind schedule again
>think of a solution and try tomorrow
>I can draw again! The invigorating energy is back
>>>REPEAT

it won't end

[Anonymous No.3212207]

>>3210072
glad you got better mate.
right now I'm playing it by ear. I don't want to reveal this to some stranger. doing it here just as a sort of release but really talking about it doesn't help. and it only makes others worry. I got to sort this out myself as much as I can before I pass that certain point.

[Anonymous No.3212319]

Should I just go on SSI so I can just draw all day? At this point it's not worth it job hunting.

[Anonymous No.3212398]

> love inio asano's art

> aspire to be able to draw as well as he does some day, especially when it comes to technical buildings

> watch his episode on urasawa's manga show

> the freak photoshops the buildings in and i have been grinding for years to attain a nigh-unattainable goal

[Anonymous No.3212404]

>>3212319
NO:

1. a job gives your day structure so you actually have to leave your house and be a functioning member of society, and shower and eat etc.

2. if you can't draw working only a 5 day work week, if not less, then you're not going to draw when you have everyday free to yourself.

3. don't be a drain on society's resources because you want to draw anime tiddies or whatever bullshit

[Anonymous No.3212416]

>>3212319
If you're a kid you won't get SSI anytime soon, it'll take a while before you're even considered. Better to just get a job someplace, it's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.3212534]

years ago
>be desperate, just want to git gud
>spend my entire time drawing and freaking out about my future
>lonely and depressed, put all that desperation into drawing and painting
>make work that is meaningful

after 6 or so years, make it
>make good living off art, life is good
>get fit and catch up on social skills
>have gf and hobbies, both of which i prefer to art
>have nothing interesting to say
>can't think of anything to draw
>my work is meaningless and changes nothing about the world
>why even draw? no desire to draw
>but it's my job
>look at my old work and wonder why i don't have that soul anymore

fuck

[Anonymous No.3212538]

I've been working on a story idea and comic for what seems like forever, but I never can seem to motivate myself to start it. Or when I start it I take a break that last for several weeks, and when I come back to it I feel like I have to start over. I'm also incapable of understanding how shading works despite reading dozens of tutorials. At this point it's just hobby.

[Anonymous No.3212632]

>>3212404
god damn i feel like this comic is literally directed at me

[Anonymous No.3212745]

>>3212534
Living off of old patterns. A ahell of what was once great, however, things change, and what felt great before might not be the same. What do you want?

[Anonymous No.3212843]

>>3212538
>I'm also incapable of understanding how shading works despite reading dozens of tutorials
because it's a skill to learn, not a trick that can be covered by a tutorial, idiot

[Anonymous No.3213597]

>>3204089
Is it still a thing? Honestly I can't relate to any of the /ic/ discords I joined so far because it was always full of extrovert people orbiting around each other and happily chatting about things I couldn't care less.

I don't want to make acquaintances through shallow chatting, but I would definitely love a more real approach on things like you just described.

[Anonymous No.3213600]

>>3204658
Ha. Had a cute black-ass Liberian girl. Drawing class, cute ass, sexy accent. Muslim, no head cover. Shit draws, dont know why she's in class. Fashion design she says. Hang with her a few times. Drove her home a couple times, picked her up a few on commute to class.
->tfw I just realized she would start telling me about her silk sheets she just paid off, about her absent father, her mother at work, her sister stays at freinds.
I just drop her off and look forward to next class when I get a chance to see her.
>end of term final portfolio, cant find my drawing pad with all my finished draws. Instructor says other students can't find their paints and pencils, everyone is mostly sure the black girl is stealing from everyone.
I believe she stole my drawing pad with all my finished work.
Instructor gives me zeros for not having the work to show. Lets me slide with lowest passing grade possible but says my drawing studies was way above level of class, was a real challenge to other big serious art students. I consistently raised level of other students to work harder.

[Anonymous No.3213686]

>>3213600
>instructor gave you zeroes for something he knows wasn't your fault and affected the entire class
What a bullshit school

[Anonymous No.3214699]

>>3214697
>>3214697
>>3214697