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Here you can ask questions regarding graphic tablets.
Post here if you want recommandations or advices regarding what you should buy. Also, if you have issues regarding the drivers or fixing some issues in certain softwares.

>> No.3157096
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>>3157095
I recently ordered a HUION GT190 . Is there anyone on this board that has this tablet ? Did you have any issues with it ? Some advice? I already searched some reviews and stuff. But i was more curious in your experience if you had any tehnical issues and how did you fix them .

>> No.3157100

bump

>> No.3157104
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3157104

I was used to drawing by hand and now I bought myself an intuos small tablet, can't draw from the shoulder or find it very difficult, recommendations to draw on this thing? I feel like my carpal tunnel is starting to hurt, drawing from my wrist.

>> No.3157109

>>3157104
Drawing from the shoulder is easier on an elevated surface. Still fucked with the size.

>> No.3157123

no store in my small town sells drawing tablets and I'm too affraid to buy one on the internet.

>> No.3157134
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Got the Huion H610 Pro recently, great reviews and tried it myself before buying.

Tablet itself is great, but after installing the drivers and charging the pen for well over an hour, the pen still won't work on the tablet unless it's plugged in. Not a common issue from what I've researched. I've tried reinstalling the drivers from their website, but no luck.

Anyone else had issues with this model?

>> No.3157147

>>3157134
have you charged the pen ?

>> No.3157276

bump

>> No.3157278

>>3157134
>>3157147
Wait , i haven't read the post properly. Sorry.

>> No.3157280

>>3157123
youre too afraid to use amazon?

>> No.3157346

Huion GT191 coming tomorrow, I'm hype

>> No.3157445

>>3157346
Would you be kind enough to do a quick review for annons that would like to buy one ? especially pen accuracy and all that jazz?

>> No.3157491

currently using intuos pro medium new model. thinking of getting ipad pro 12.9 with pencil.

>> No.3157507

>>3157445
its pretty decent, the parallax is a bit annoying but compared to the wacom babmoo pen its a whole new world

>> No.3157508

>>3157104
Drawing from the shoulder on a tablet that small is a complete waste of time, and fucking idiotic. Drawing from the shoulder is for painting large pieces on canvas, or drawing on large paper. For smaller work, you draw from the elbow, and the wrist.
If you have carpal tunnel, see a fucking doctor, that shit won't go away on it's own, or buying a different table. IF it's carpal tunnel.

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>>3157346
Literally the same, except I might have to wait a day or two. Old ass tablet is slowly ceasing various buttons and shit, it´s not that fun anymore working with half the buttons. It held up very well though.

>> No.3157643

Is there any Cintiq alternative that supports touch gestures?

>> No.3157650

Anyone has a Cintiq pro 13 could you give some impressions?

I have a Cintiq pro 16 but the noise fan is annoying, has light bleed and probably a yellow tint so I'm probably going to get rid of it and buy me the smaller model also because it can actually fit in my bagpack

>> No.3157680

>>3157554
what brushes are these senpai?

>> No.3158044
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I recently bought an intuos pro small to use on win10 (forced to upgrade from my beloved graphire 4 CTE-640 which was serving me well on Win7) and found the bare drawing face very uncomfortable to use. I don't like the feeling of it at all.
I found out the medium and large size models have texture sheets available for them, but not the small.

Does anyone think buying a medium sheet to macgyver it onto the small model would be fine?
I don't use the buttons or the ring so if those got covered I won't really care.

At the moment I have taped a large ziploc bag over the tablet which is nice and smooth and feels so much nicer, but, it's a fuckin ziploc bag.

>> No.3158055

>>3157445
Hasn't arrived yet just waiting on delivery, anything specific you want to know?

>> No.3158409

>>3157680
Should be these https://gumroad.com/medders, also it´s only one brush

>> No.3158417

>>3158409
thanks!
this should work

>> No.3158429

>>3158417
np dude

>my Huion GT191 will actually take until friday
>feelsbadman

>> No.3158835

If you are getting your first tablet and youre serious about drawing and dont know what to get just get an Intuos Pro Medium.

>> No.3158860

>>3157096
personally didn't really have any issues with it, had a friend that did but pretty much all of the issues can be solved with updates and whatnot, and in rare cases, RMA

>> No.3159231

>>3157095
im a poorfag hobbyist planning to upgrade from a bamboo to an intuos. Is there a big difference between the two?
Currently drawing from bamboo feels like drawing on glass. How much of an improvement will there be if i switch to an intuos?

>> No.3159712

>>3158835
that's a little out of my budget fella, but thanks

>> No.3160576

Been using a bamboo CTL470 for years now, but wear and tear are starting to take it's toll, what's the good shit these days?

>> No.3160579

What's the principal points I have to look when I'll buy a tablet?

I'm searching and I have some itens

- Size (medium size, big only with display, never buy a small)
- Jitter
- Pressure level

What else can I add?
ps: except price

>> No.3161080

>>3158044
Those sheets are super overpriced. Theoretically, if the holes fit over the buttons, the rest could be cut into the right measurements. But no idea really.

I fucking hate Wacom for becoming such incredible Jews. I still use my Intuos2 from almost 15 years ago with the same stock nib it came with. (!!!) And it works great. Forward to today and they sell cheaply produced, flimsy iterations for which you NEED to buy an extra smooth sheet and even then the nibs disintegrate like a wet cookie + all the horror stories with their drivers I hear all the time.

>> No.3161098

>>3158044
If the surface is too smooth, sand it. It's just plastic. Tape off the drawing area, and start with a really smooth grit, and work your way courser until it feels right. I did the opposite to my old pad, it got scratched and worn from years of use, so i resanded it flat and got the scratches out. I think I stopped at 200 grit, as I liked that surface.
That, or just buy a film protector for an iPad/tablet, that's larger than the drawing size, and cut it down. They also sell sheets of film with adhesive, for other applications. It's like window tint film, but clear, and a lot thinner.

>> No.3161202

>>3161080
>>3161098
I don't disagree about them being overpriced, but in the end $30 isn't going to dent my wallet.
My graphire 4 came with a hard, super smooth plastic shell that I drew on top of. I never changed my stock nib pen either, it never wore down. It was great. So the smoother the smooth sheet is, the better.
But yeah I was thinking about other solutions, but I wasn't sure if film protectors would be good because they're so much thinner. I wouldn't want my pen to accidentally grind a tear into it or something.
Hmm... thank you for responding though!

>> No.3162311

>>3157123
If you use amazon and your tablet arrives broken you just need to call them and they'll send you another one for free.
At this day and age there really is NO reason to be afraid to buy online unless you're buying from shady sources. I only buy groceries out nowadays and just order anything I need over the internet and only ever had 1 problem in the past two years (on amazon, problem which was resolved after a 2min call).

>> No.3162474

Is there much of a difference between the New 1060 Plus and the H610 from Huion?

>> No.3162974

I use the XP-Pen 22HD for a year now ask me anything about it

>> No.3163573

>>3157096
Does a GT190 have brush rotation (direction)?

>> No.3164153

I'm interested in the Huion New 1060 Plus as my first drawing tablet.

Does 35,8 x 23,9 x 1 cm count as small, medium or big for a drawing tablet's size?

>> No.3164154

>>3164153
Active area is 25cm x 15,8cm.

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am i autistic for being a cintiq pro 13 at launch?

I'm seeing all these new tablets having better features and at a much lower price point.

I'm tempted to just sell it and get those tablets instead.

I already have an ipad pro 12.9 but that's only for portable use.

>> No.3165924

I have a intuos pro 4. How do I make it so that the area on the screen that my tablet covers is the same as the area I draw on?

>> No.3165949

>>3165920
What are the other tablets you are talking about?

>> No.3166037

>>3158860
What's it like compared to a Wacom display tablet?

I want to 'upgrade' from my Cintiq 13", but I've always been really hesitant against these off-brand display tablets.

>> No.3166041

>>3157650
Stay away from tablet computers.

I've yet to find a tablet computer that satisfies all of my needs--probably the closest was one of the initial Lenovo ones before they cheaped out.

>> No.3167523

I don't care if it's too shit, but I'm looking for a laptop with a Wacom digitizer.
Not planning to do any serious work on it, I already have a graphics tablet at home, I just need to get some basic illustrations done at school and the like. Not really up for the task of getting a Cintiq or the like just yet.
I have about $700 CAD to play with, don't mind going into the used or Chinese market.
Currently looking at the Lenovo Yoga 14 and Lenovo Flex 5.
Gonna be using Photoshop CC and illustrator CC, maybe Lightroom in the future, so no shitty Atom or Celeron CPU's.
And can anyone tell how a Surface pro 3 or 4 holds up? I'm seeing a good bit of those on the used market

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I got a Wacom feel (not sure if that's the correct name) compatible tablet (penable). Cube Mix Plus. I use it with a Samsung note pen, but it's very in-accurate and every calibration makes it even worse. Is there any solution or a download-able calibration to reset things to factory defaults or any other solution? Neither samsung or wacom devices are supported in my country so I'd like to avoid buying a new pen if that's possible.

There's a literal almost 1cm wide dead zone near its borders; 1cm away from borders the pointer is already so much away from the pens tip.

>> No.3168744

>>3168735
I'm not sure but I think it's called "offset";
The biggest issue is that its somewhat random even if it's on spot near the center, but around the with of start menu from the edges it's almost 1cm.

I'd really would like to reset to the factory calibration it was much better.

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Anyone tried one of these Ugee 1910Bs?

You can find them as cheap as 270€ and the Youtube reviews seem to be alright. I don't think there is anything else like it for the price.

Honestly I just can't get my head around drawing on a pad without a display. Plus, analog is still my favourite method, I just want something to try out and experiment with colors and pretend to paint with cause I can't actually afford paints.

>> No.3169004

Is medium (256gb) storage size big enough for animation on an iPad Pro?

>> No.3169469

>>3168777
It took me a few days to learn how to use a graphics tablet. After that, it became second nature. I think you should give the pad another chance. Like with any other skill, learning the hand-eye coordination with a tablet takes time. I personally have a "Huion New 1060 Plus" (Yes that really is the model name).

As for the 1910B tablet monitor. I convinced one of my college professors to buy this exact model at full price and he's been very satisfied. He puts onionskin on it to make it feel more natural while drawing his comics. If it means anything, he's a Mac user in his 60's. Just remember to download the drivers directly from their website. And that the 1910B doesn't use DisplayPort or HDMI.

>> No.3171580

Looking at the wacom website to replace my old bamboo. Intuos is the new entry-level offering?

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I've been looking at this Simbans Picasso tablet. I don't want to spend the money on a bigger professional tablet, I just want something for doodling. Anyone have any experience with this thing?

>> No.3171962

talking about what tablet to use wont help you git gud

>> No.3172026

So I've bought this thing about a year ago as my first tablet and I've been using it since, i have no idea what it's called, the box just says intuos but when i google it 12 different things show up. Did i fuck up?

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>>3172026
forgot image

Even the wacom website doesn't think this exact model exists, this picture was off wikimedia and it just call it an intuos as well.

>> No.3172396

>>3172028

That looks like the old Wacom Intuos Pen and Touch Small. I used to have that one too.

>> No.3172421

I was wondering if anyone could help me decide on a tablet. There are three I've been looking at, and if anyone has any experience or knowledge with them, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Huion Inspiroy G10T (2nd gen)
https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Inspiroy-G10T-Wireless-Graphic/dp/B01LXBUI5T

Huion H950P
https://www.huiontablet.com/all-products/graphic-tablets/huion-h950p.html

Huionn New 1060 Plus (8192)
https://www.huiontablet.com/all-products/graphic-tablets/huion-new-1060-plus-155.html

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My gf is in a competition to win a Wacom pro paper edition so she can start developing her tablet drawing skills, she's currently in 3rd place out of 21!!

>> No.3172969

>>3172938
>143 likes

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>>3172938
What competition?
I wanna join in too so she loses :)

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What does everyone think of the current amazon tablets under 30 USD?
>https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Graphics-Drawing-Tablet-Board/dp/B00TB0TTAC
>https://www.amazon.com/Huion-Inches-Tablet-Graphics-Drawing/dp/B00DTPYWBG

Pretty much looking for something to fuck around with since I haven't drawn anything since primary school. And why buy some pen and paper when I know its going to end up in the trash. Atleast with a tablet I could donate it later.

Thanks.
>Also, I'd go up to 50$ but it seems like the only change is the brand name from 35-50...

>> No.3174380

>>3172028
>>3172396
Yes, the Wacom Intuos Pen and Touch, although I think this one is the large as I have the small one of this exact model.

I hate it though because the pressure sensitivity breaks on me a lot/lags a little bit, kind of regret selling my old Intuos 3 for this.

>> No.3174398

>>3174380
Are there scratches on the tablet? Mine never lags.

>> No.3174571

>>3174398
No, it's relatively clean with no scratches. it's been laggy ever since I used it for the first time.

I should've exchanged it for a new one but i moved away from my city. oh well, i'm saving up for a new one anyway.

>> No.3174616

Got an older model intuos pro medium. Noticed the new ones are like 50-100 euros more expensive, what gives? I know they have more pressure sensitivity (even though 2048 layers is already more than enough), but that shouldn't mean a price increase right? New better tech is supposed to be cheaper or the same price as old tech.

>> No.3175414

>>3173893
how big is your screen?
and those two tablets you listed are only meant to play osu with and are therefor tiny as fuck you are just gonna want to end your life trying to draw on a tiny shit like this

>> No.3175437

Are hard felt tip nibs a meme, or does it really make it feel like pencil-on-paper? I need more nibs because i've ran out of the 3 that came with the intuos draw.

>> No.3175509

>>3175414
>Screen resolution: 1920 pixels wide & 1080 pixels tall
>Color depth: 24 bits
>Pixel ratio: 1

>> No.3175536

Hey /ic/, has the presence of a graphic tablet helped you making more gains? The same? No difference?

Thinking of shelling money for a 21 inch Huion but poor.

>> No.3175705

>>3175437
I enjoy those nibs. They do feel closer to pencil on paper and when I switched to regular nibs it felt like I was slipping and sliding everywhere. I wouldn't buy them at the price Wacom offers them at though. I q

>> No.3175760
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Is a tablet with screen a must have if you're serious about drawing digital? It feels like it to me because I've owned a normal tablet for quite a while but I still can't get good results from it. And overall it seems like a waste of time, having to adapt to a screenless tablet when you could just get one with a screen and get started right away

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>Literally chinkshit general
Get a real Wacom tablets you fucking poorfags.

>> No.3176269

>>3175760
A lot of people in /ic/ recommend it but outside of this board everyone seems to prefer screened tablets like it's obvious and logical. I don't get ic personally. It seems fucking tedious to draw without a screen. Screenless tablets are better in a way because your hand never blocks your vision of what you're drawing but I just rotate my art so my hand's not in the way of anything important

>> No.3176279

>>3175760
no, some professional digital artist prefer non screen tablets cause first the hand isn't in the way and second cause you don't have to hunch forward like a retard cavemen and get a sore neck and back problems

>> No.3176312

>>3175993
Chink products are 5 times cheaper and like 30% worse. If you have infinite money then yeah every ricenigger product is shit but artists are notoriously poor

>> No.3176377

>>3176269
>>3175760
The main benefit of a nonscreen tablet is unobstructed vision and proper posture. Even if you have an easel, a monitor at eye level causes much less posture strain (especially if you're "serious" about drawing, meaning you're sitting there for 6-8 hours a day). The main drawback is it takes longer to get used to, and some retards never get the hang of it.

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i'm fucking done with this tablet.
it just fucking terrible
>pen pressure turns off without any touch often
>terrible connection and compatibility
>now opacity fucked up

so first i buy new usb cable, if it doesn't fix problem i will transfer to Huion or crappy wacom, anyway what the fuck is Hanvon? i never heard selling shit to outside cuckrea or chinkland

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>>3176880
Should have researched on the reviews. Probably a rebrand: https://www.parkablogs.com/content/which-graphics-drawing-tablet-buy-2015-non-display-types


On a side note, I hope that parka-sempai will review pic related Gaomon. It's a display tablet for 193 USD at 16" x 9.9". Looks like a steal but I'm weary of quality/driver issues.

>> No.3177074

>>3176377
Problem solved as the display tablets can also be used as a non display tablet, no?

I for one, welcome a larger drawing canvas. Less strains on my wrist, more on my arms so it balances things out.

>> No.3177084

>>3177074
>problem solved
What? You're paying 8 times the amount for the screen feature, turning it off isn't problem solved, it's retarded. Switching back and forth is not ideal either, as getting used to one to the point of drawing being second nature is critical to flow state.

>> No.3177093

>>3177072
you niggers need to just save up the extra money and not buy chink shit that'll break in a year

>> No.3177137

>>3177084
I once brought a new monitor which turned out to be of a different ratio than the tablet itself during the 4:3 to 16:9 shift. What's to say it wouldn't happen again? I went back to paper after my tablet broke then every thing I drew felt bloated as hell. Took time to unlearn that bad habit.

>>3177093
Had an intuos 3 who broke on me after 1 year, wacom's support isn't the best either so I wouldn't count on them that much. Eating their shit up isn't going to solve their atrocious support. With the amount of competition wacom received the last few years, it wouldn't be surprising if affordable display tablets were to come. The technology plateaued already, but the price haven't due to the lack of competition. A lower floor is always welcome for the healthy customers. I for one welcome our new overlords.

>> No.3178092

>>3176880
forget it problem solved

>> No.3178537

I have an wacom Intuos CTL-490 and keep getting the dreaded "tablet driver is not responding" problem.
I googled a fix for it and found the "restart the wacom services" solution.
It worked...until recently.
Now the driver is not detected at all unless I completely uninstall and reinstall the driver. And it always suddenly becomes not found eventually anyways.
How do I permanently fix this? Just buy a different tablet not from wacom?

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are intuos3s the last good graphics tablets wacom will ever make? seems like their newer intuos tablets are are not much of an upgrade from older models and are just bloated with features like wireless connection and a surface that is designed to destroy nibs

>> No.3179209
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3179209

My Huion pen died, and even after trying to solder it back, nothing worked.
So I decided to step up and bought my first Wacom, Intuos Pro M Paper (it was surprisingly cheaper than the regular and I prefer sketching on paper).
Is it really going to be much of an upgrade from the H610 Pro ?

>> No.3179215

>>3179209
Have you considered using it and forming your own opinion?

>> No.3179220

>>3179215
I receive it tommorow.

>> No.3179273

>>3157095

Tablet finally broke after owning it for a longass time.

Any recommendations for what to get? I'm used to using Smaller size, about 6x4.Is it worth upgrading size or not? Much of an improvement in feel? Kind of worried it'll throw me out of whack but if it's worth it in the longrun to adjust to a bigger size than I guess I will.

I don't care about it having a screen, I like looking at the monitor anyway.

>> No.3179281

>>3179273

Also what the fuck is the point of a tablet glove?

>> No.3179302

>>3159231
The pen's tip is made of rubber, it's going to be much smoother. For the same reason it won't scratch the tablet so it'll last longer

>> No.3179304

>>3179281
I made my own tablet glove out of scotch tape. Sweat and skin create a thin layer that feels unnatural when gliding bare hands across the surface.

>> No.3179328

Fucking intuos pro m broke. Bought a huion q11k, has anyone tried it? I feel like a fucking poorfag now, I've been using wacom for over 10 years.

>> No.3179391

>>3157104
>intous small
>small

Anon, anon, anon... If you can return it, I'd highly advice you to. Save up until you can afford a Medium size. It's a great tablet, but small in any tablet is just crap for drawing.

>> No.3179398

>>3158044
Anon, buy your self some crafts carboard! The thinnest you can find of the kind that has one kind of shiny white surface and one slightly more paper-feeling surface on the other side. Cut them up to the size of the tablets active area and use masking tape to tape it to the tablet with the most matte/papery side up (leave the bottom edge of the cardboard un-taped, so the paper can expand in that direction if it needs to cause of humidity changes in the air... or hand sweat)

I've tried many different papers and cardboards and this cheap crafts paper is the best stuff. Good surface that's not so gritty it will wear your nibs down fast and thick enough to not expand and "bubble" from the sweat of your hand. You need to change it now and then, but it's so cheap it's not an issue.

>> No.3179402

>>3159231
Look here
>>3179398
But yes, I have an Intous Medium and it's a great tablet, wouldn't switch it for anything else.

>> No.3179403

>>3162974
How's the parallax? Had driver issues with it?

>> No.3179406

>>3164153
I think it's closest to a Medium. If your monitor is no bigger then 24 inches, it should be good.

>> No.3179410

>>3179281
Keeps your tablet surface clean and makes your hand slide smoothly over the surface.

>> No.3179873

>>3179398
But it still feels like some kind of paper, won't it? If I could be drawing on plastic or glass that would be ideal.
Hmm, well, thank you for responding! I'll still consider this. I'm still using the ziploc bag atm lol

>>3179402
I think you replied to the wrong person.

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Gaomon M106K OR Huion New 1060 Plus?
i need some help on deciding which to get. both seem good for the price. i know the huion is a lot more popular though, so im leaning towards that.

>> No.3180607

>>3179328
Well I've tried it now and it's pretty dope.

>> No.3180682

>>3174571
I have one that's scratched to hell and back and it literally never lags

>> No.3180721

>>3157095
Should I get the new Wacom DTH1620k0 Cintiq Pro 16 or the old Cintiq 13HD DTK1300?

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A few months ago I bought a Huion 1060 Plus. Few days ago I gave it to my sister but forgot to put the pen charger inside. Now I can't find it in my house. But I found an old Nokia phone charger that has an end which looks the same. Is it safe to use it? Pic related,

>> No.3180805

>>3157095
I'm thinking of selling my Cintiq 13HD for something portable, considering maybe just get an apple pencil for my 10.5" iPad Pro.

Any suggestions in the $400-500 range?

>> No.3181273

I currently have a intuos draw and a monitor at 2736x1824, 267 PPI. Should I continue to use the tablet or is it better to upgrade to a intuos pro medium?

>> No.3181367

>>3179209
Ok I got it.
It's fucking night and day.
The paper gimmick is really nice.
I now understand why people go for Wacom.

>> No.3181368

For years I've thought I'd buy a tablet intuos pro medium (industry standard as far as I knew) to upgrade from my bamboo medium, but now that I'm about to do it I checked on it and realized the active surface is barely a few centimers larger than what I already have. Is there really a point in upgrading ? Are there other things that will be improved other than surface area (that was the only thing that interested me)

>> No.3181739

>>3180778
depends on the output voltage and amperage of the charger, if it is similar to the original there will be no problem, but if it is higher you run the risk of damaging the battery.

>> No.3181810

Is there any real difference between the Huion H610 and the H610 Pro other than price?

>> No.3182536

>>3181368
ive got a bamboo medium and intuos pro medium - intuos has more levels of pressure sensitivity - the pen is MUCH nicer -has real weight to it plus changeable tips to get the feel you want.
the extra area around the active space works wonders and actually lets you rest your wrist properly.

>> No.3182723

>>3182536
thanks for the feedback bro

>> No.3184393

>>3181739
Thanks for the help. The charger I found charged the pen without problems. And I already found the original cable.

>> No.3184414

I'm poor as fuck but want to get started drawing digitally; the Wacom Draw I have right now is way too small to draw comfortably, so I was looking into more the 10x6in range. Is the Huion 610 or Turcon something a good investment? I'm worried abut driver issues

>> No.3185608
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Has anyone tried the SenseL Morph?

Apparently it has so many pressure sensors that you can even use a normal brush on it. Also modular buttons for shortcuts.

>> No.3185622

Nobody will probably know this but does any monitor tablet work decently on Ubuntu?

>> No.3185880
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Is it normal that the nibs of the newest Intuos Pro Pen 2 wear down so fast ?
I got this tablet on saturday and it seems like I have used it for months.

>> No.3185885

ordered s pen for 70 USD + 40$ import tax and shipping. can't wait!!!

>> No.3185923

>>3185880
they put a texture or smth and the nib wears off really fast
i recommend you to use a skin protector , that way the tablet will work and the nib won't wear off that fast.
You can replace the nibs with thick wire so you don't have to buy new ones. Search on google.

>> No.3185926

I've got a cintiq 13hd tab but I never use it.

>> No.3185932

>>3185923
I was considering buying a protector. I absolutely love the feeling of the tablet as it is right now (super smooth, miles ahead of my old Huion) but I don't feel like buying a 5 nibs pack every month.
Thanks for the tips I'll take a look.

>> No.3185996

>>3168777
I bought one from gear best, it was my first screened tablet. But for whatever reason, there was jitter in the lines that I would draw, in some cases it was really bad. I could not fix it and I even got some people who own tablets like it (though not the same make or model) and they couldn't figure it out either.
I sent it back and managed to get a full refund after the return period was over and decided not to test my luck and just learn a simple $100 tablet.

If it helps, a few designers at my college would tape paper to the tablet to get a paper feeling.

>> No.3186009

Are there any large monitor tablets that double as a computer?

>> No.3186029

>>3186009
I don't mean to sound pedantic, but it depends on what you mean by "large" and it depends on what you mean by "computer". How large? By computer do you mean having parity with a desktop or laptop or just being a standalone device? By tablet do you mean something like an ipad or a 2-in-1?

>> No.3186048

>>3186029
>2-in-1

Most likely this, and by large I mean not ipad size.

I thought I saw someone have a drawing tablet that doubled as a computer so that I wouldn't have to buy a good tablet and a good computer to combine.

as I write this I found a small list containing a 'Wacom Cintiq Companion 2' which is something I was going for.

>> No.3186058
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>>3157095
What graphic tablet is this guy using?

>> No.3187051

i'm about to get the huion gt 191. do you guys think i should just go all the way and get the gt 220? i don't care about hot keys and 19" is more than enough for me. is there some difference in performance that i should know about?

>> No.3187181

>>3186058
I would say intous 3 a4 size.

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Does a screen tablet match the feeling of pencil and paper in terms of direct control?

>> No.3187846

>>3186058

That grip pen is a large Intuos 3 from like 10 years ago.

Best tablet.

>> No.3188844

Is an on screen tablet worth it or is it a meme i got 500 dollars to spare i've decided to get into drawing instead of wasting it on an xbox one

>> No.3189285

Anyone with art pen and\or airbrush pen?
Did it wort the money? How much do you use these pen features?

>> No.3189428

>>3188844

as someone who started off using a intuos then moving to off brand on screen tablet , using an on screen tablet is a world of difference.

Using a on screen tablet with parallax is like using a pencil with a bent tip, annoying but perfectly usable once you get used to it. Using an intuos feels like your drawing with a piece of soap compared to it.

That said some people like intuos tablets better than cintiqs , I don't understand these people but they exist.

>> No.3189519

I only have 50 euros is there even something at thia range?

>> No.3189918

Tax refund season is coming up and I'm in the msrket for a portable digital drawing solution

I know i have a few options;
Microsoft Surface Pro (newest model doesnt come with pen)
Wacom MobileStudio Pro
HP zBook X2

I don't think the zBook X2 is out quite yet but does anyone know much about the other options?

>> No.3189978

>>3189519
If you´re willing to take the risk of getting broke stuff, then I would advice you to look for used Wacom tablets on eBay. For example: You can get an Intuos3 in good condition for around 30 euros and sometimes even cheaper in an auction.

If it has to be something new and you can wait a bit, try to look at rice-sites like Fasttech or Gearbest and look for their Huions and Ugees and whatever else stuff. Be sure to look at reviews somewhere else first before ordering and never trust the reviews on the shopping sites.

If it has to be new and a bit quicker, order what you found on the chink pages on eBay or Amazon. Maybe 10-20 bucks more then, but faster at your home.

Anyway, try to get an used Wacom, if possible, try it before buying. They´re nearly indestructible and if a bit newer, they´ll get supported softwarewise.

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3191490

I ordered the Huion h640p, mainly for solidworks, but I'd like to get started into this whole artsy thingy, used to be pretty creative and draw a ton until technical high school were that creativity was stomped out of me by the scientific method and shit.
What can I expect?
Anybody's got any experience with it? Youtube reviews praise it, but then again, they all got it for free. Guessed it'd be a nice starting tablet.

>> No.3191494

>>3191490
why would you need a tablet for solidworks?

>> No.3191616
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>>3191494
Fucked that up, meant to write product design, which is what I do.
That includes Solidworks, AutoCAD, Rhinoceros, illustrator and sometimes Photoshop, so I figured a tablet would help. I sketch a lot, and I like designing with ink and paper before 3D modeling stuff, I'm hoping digital sketching will become a part of my design method/enriches it, figured a pen like interface will feel more natural to me.
If anything, I'll draw as a hobby.

>> No.3192181

At what screen size should one use a large tablet instead of a medium one, and at which resolution? For example I've got a 27'' screen with a resolution of 3840 x 2160. Is this already large enough to warrant a large tablet? Or will a medium one work just fine?

>> No.3192188

anyone having problems with photoshop cc 2018 and wacom?

>> No.3192195

>>3161080
I use intuos 3
what driver are you using?
I think WacomTablet_6.3.15-3 is the last one who supports old tablets

>> No.3192225

How much better is an Intuos Pro compared to a regular Intuos?

>> No.3193360
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I've never used a tablet before in my life and have always relied on traditional media, but I've come to a point where I'm starting to realise that there are simply some things I can't accomplish in traditional mediums as well as you can with digital.

Does anybody happen to have any recommendations for a decent tablet within the price range of £119 (which I think is about $155?)?

I also wanted to ask, what are the primary components/aspects of a tablet I should be looking for when searching? Like, is there a kind of "must have" or "highly recommended" specs/addons? I saw that something come with digital erasers on the bottom of the pen which sounds neat, but idk if that's considered a meme tool or not.

Picture unrelated.

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3193418

Does anyone have one of these new models? is it noticeable the difference between 8192 and 2048 levels of pressure?

>> No.3193737

>>3193418
Pressure is massively overrated.

You're probably using a brush that's less than 100px, so the difference between two pressure levels on a 2048 tablet is in the decimals.

Pressure sensitivity is a very "diminishing returns" kind of spec, where anything above 512 barely makes a difference.

>> No.3193818

>>3193418
>>3193737
I just got one of those, definitely the line width control is much better, it's more noticeable when you're an illustrator who uses line variation. But I don't think it's due to the levels, I feel that it's because the tip retracts more than the previous ones, it gets in almost completely inside if you push hard, this gives a much more controllable range of pressure than the hard tips of past pen models.

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3193917

I have no knowledge of tablets or how to do anything digitally but I'd like to get one if there's an affordable display tablet on the market. Right now I have trouble seeing colors on my current monitor so blending values is a pain in the ass. What should I look for and should I just get a regular tablet instead? Pic related is last thing I worked on more than an hour digitally. I'm /beg/ and still grinding but digital is a lotta fun.

>> No.3193941

>>3193917
Cintiqs are usually the most reliable. You can try a microsoft surface book but they fall apart at the seams after a while. Yiynova also has a MSP19U that is similar to a cintiq, cheaper, some people like it others don't. Ugee 2150 comes to mind as well, probably better than a yiynova but again still not as reliable as wacom.

If you're looking for one with a screen it will run you anywhere from $300 to $2500, easy. If you are very tech savvy you can make your own cintiq, I believe there's an instructable for that if you google for it.

Honestly because of your budget you should probably get a regular tablet, wacom intuos pro medium is what I have, they're solid and last a long time. If you can't afford it online you can look on facebook tablet selling pages, craigslist or ebay and see if anyone is selling theirs for cheap.

>> No.3193991

>>3193418
Pen tips are getting absolutely annihilated on the default surface. 2-3 days of 8h work and it's fucking unusable. Smooth surface will make it 1-1.5 month per tip, but still nowhere near where older models were.

Avoid this model, go for pth-651 instead.

>> No.3194206

>>3193941
The problem for me is that I'd need a new monitor to do digital anyway and getting a display tablet gives me a 2 monitor setup which is much easier to work with.

>> No.3194236

>>3193917
trust me its not your monitor. monitor dont magically give you good edges or forms, to fix that monstrosity you painted. or value for that matter. all of those come from understanding them, not grinding them.

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>>3194236
when i did my first digital portrait i thought a lot of areas that were darker actually came out lighter and vice versa. it would be nice to have 2 monitors so i could use one as a ref for studies anyway.

>> No.3194339

>tfw scratches on my tablet

H-how do I fix it lads?

>> No.3194419

>>3194339
with lots of kisses and hugs (:

>> No.3194459

>>3194339
Change your nible on the pen

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>>3194260
yeah but your're missing the point here. its not the monitors thats gonna barely do anything for you. like pic related your ears are too high, the eye socket is wrong especially with the direction of the eye brow it looks like she has a dent on her face. the lips are too low , ect ect i mean what even is that hair brah

to me it looks like u dont understand the first few things about digital painting, because for one you're painting with a brush you have no idea how to use. you need a basic opacity on pressure(no flow) with 8% spacing and a manual brush(no pen pressure) with possible 50% opacity, that way you can control your edges. get your basics first before you start worrying about equipment

the only way youre gonna use flow correctly like youre trying to on ur drawing is by know how to control it correctly like ruan jia does. look at how meaningful his brush strokes are

pic related is a really old piece but he knows what he is doing.

>> No.3194493

>>3194478
i think the stuff you're talking about is too advanced for me. i have no idea what most of the things you said mean. im just a beginner that started learning in july and i didn't do ctrl paint or any digital tutorials yet. those two were the only things i painted longer than an hour.
progress here:
https://gs95.tumblr.com/

i just want a bigger tablet so i can actually draw comfortably, and i need a second monitor anyway if i want to do studies and stuff. i think a display tablet would be good in that case since it could solve both my problems. i know another beginner has the huion display one, so maybe i'll get that or something.

>> No.3194501

Cintiq Pro 24 when?? It's like they don't want me to give them money...

>> No.3194508

>>3194493
The guy you're talking to is an asshole and you're probably way better than him desu.

You do need to learn more about edge control and digital brushes, I'd recommend watching videos of artists you like and want to learn from, and focus on what brushes they're using and why. It's just a matter of time before you grasp much of it.

Monitors will definitely have an effect on things as well, especially when it comes to color and chroma. The saturation on my display tablet is higher than my monitor, no matter how much fiddling I do with the settings, so I end up doing most of the sketching and layout on the tablet. Then combine the screens and paint while looking at the monitor.

As far as tablets in general go, I'd say having a good size is most important. Small tablets like the bamboo are absolutely awful for your wrist and for solid brushwork and lines. Wacom will have the most reliable and quality stuff albeit a much higher price, whereas some of the Chinese brands are generally pretty good when they work but sometimes you run into trouble with software and drivers, and just all around a lower reliability.

>> No.3194512

>>3194508
yeah i know i have to actually study digital cause i just drew those two in csp with transparent and opaque brushes. i promise i'll get back to it after learning some stuff about drawing bodies and other fundies. i have an old bamboo fun tablet that has the drawing surface of about a sketchbook page and i'd like the surface to be at least double that. is there any tablet store or something where you can just try out different brands in person or should i just go to best buy?

>> No.3194517

>>3163573
No, only wacom tablets currently support tilt/rotation

>> No.3194518

Is it a bad idea for completely beginners at drawing to start learning on a tablet to draw, rather than a paper and pencil? Or is it just objectively better to get a grasp on things physically that way before moving on to a tablet?

>> No.3194522

>>3193991
Protip: Get a screen protector for a touch screen, put it on the active area, and voila. Problem solved. Nibs don't wear down as quickly and if you ever scratch into the screen protector from hamfisted drawing, you can just change it out.

The most important thing is that it is for a touch screen, though. Other screen protectors will mess with your pen pressure and accuracy sometimes.

>> No.3194530

>>3194206
That makes total sense, I had the same issue with seeing values on my last laptop (the contrast ratio was atrocious, black showed as a mid-grey on that thing) but since I already had a tablet I just got an IPS monitor that was on sale. Black friday is coming up, keep an eye out on amazon if you're going for a new monitor.

>>3194512
I don't know of any tablet stores where they let you try them out. I'd suggest staying away from best buy if you can, they're very overpriced. If you find someone to buy from in person, they should be willing to let you try a tablet out and see if you like it before you buy it from them.

I understand the pain in the ass a bamboo fun is. You probably want something similar to wacom's medium sized intuos pro tablets, or one of the knock-off cintiqs that actually works. Those should be around the same price anyways.

>> No.3194538

>>3194530
that's real good advice, thanks a ton buddy. i'll keep an eye out for black friday deals and ask around if anyone'll sell me a tablet irl lol

>> No.3194549

>>3189918
A lot of people have been reporting that their Surface Pros are falling apart at the seams, coming unglued, and are FUBAR after about a year or two. If you want something that will last you a long time, that's probably not the best option. Also if you work on big canvases make sure you get the i7 version because it will fucking lag.

Wacom Mobile Studio Pro is at least better than the surface in terms of durability, but battery life sucks (you will be stuck near an outlet anyways for long drawing sessions) and it's expensive as fuck.

I haven't heard anything about the HP zBook X2 yet.

Other options to research could be: Galaxy Tab, Ipad Pro (with Apple Pencil), Lenovo Yoga 14

>> No.3194554

>>3194538
Yeah man. Check craigslist and facebook marketplace if you don't know anyone selling a tablet. Good luck and keep up the good work, you're on the right track with your art.

>> No.3194561

>>3194554
thanks that means a lot!

>> No.3194566

>>3194518
It is a bad idea to start with digital, since digital art mimics traditional. You need to train your hand-eye coordination, muscle memory, and pressure control with pencil and paper first. Drawing digitally just exacerbates beginner issues like focusing too hard on rendering one small area instead of the entire picture progressing at once, and can reinforce bad habits like scratchy/bad draftsmanship.

Please actually heed this advice and learn with traditional first before you jump into digital...

>> No.3194568

>>3194339
Change your nib, and if the scratches are so deep that they catch your nib and make it dig in deeper, either put a screen protector on top of the active area or go to wacom's website and buy a new tablet surface.

>> No.3194584

>>3194518
guy who posted the blog and portraits here, i started out with pencil on paper and did a bunch of portraits traditionally first and some still life after. moving to digital after that felt kinda weird but the results are alright considering. line grinding and that kind of stuff is probably best done traditionally. messing around in digital is a lot of fun though, so i think it's ok to own a tablet as a beginner. just don't neglect to study what you're weak on and stuff.

>> No.3194627

>>3193360
I don't know of any tablet that is decent or that I'd even feel comfortable recommending in that price range.

Things to look for in a tablet:

>Pressure Sensitivity
Pressure level refers to the sensitivity to pressure on the surface of the tablet. Most tablets have either 256, 512, or 1024 pressure levels. The pressure-sensitivity can control line thickness, transparency, and/or color.

512 levels is just fine for most, but I find myself most comfortable with 2048 levels of pen pressure for some reason. I am personally very light-handed, so 512 just felt like I was being forced to push too hard on the surface and I didn't like it. Anything higher just feels the same though so don't think that just because it's ultra sensitive it's automatically better.

>Active Area Size
The active area is the part of the tablet that you'll be drawing on with the stylus. I'm going to use wacom tablet sizes for reference as that's what I'm familiar with.

Small size tends to be very restrictive and are a pain in the ass especially if you are a traditional artist used to moving more with your shoulder and elbow. It forces you to draw small and move your wrist too much, and can lead to carpal tunnel. Some people like them, though.

Medium seems to be the average that people go for. It's usually around the size of a piece of paper, so you have the room to maneuver with your shoulder and elbow, and they don't take up too much desk space.

Large to extra large... It's alright if you are used to working on huge pads of paper or canvases, but most people find that these take up way too much desk space, and that they really only use a small portion of the tablet in the first place. However if you like to sling your arm around like a madman and have a big 4k screen to work on, go for it.

>Interface
How does the tablet connect to your computer?
Is it a USB cable? Is it hard-wired in to the tablet or does it have ports for a cable? How sturdy are they? Do you want wireless?

>> No.3194634

>>3194508
youre clearly retarded if you think new equipment is necessary. if you have a working tablet or monitor youll be fine. calibration doesnt mean anything because everyone has different monitors anyways so everyone is calibrated differently. again your fucking equipment doesnt define you. you also dont need 2 FUCKING monitors to do studies, jesus christ you idiots. keep it simple stupid.

>> No.3194635

>>3194634
You sound salty bro #rekt

>> No.3194644

>>3194635
alright while youre at it, go grab a 1000 watt power supply, 2x3k res predator monitor, a gaming chair, a keypad and hell why not throw in a powerful GTX graphics card to run photoshop at full throttle. by the time you waited for all your equipment to arrive you have made 0 progress on your shit art

>> No.3194647

>>3194634
it's just a pain to draw if your tablet is small and studies of stuff that's in like a landscape orientation is a hard to see on a single monitor. i just want things to be easier to see and for drawing to be more comfortable, i don't think there's anything wrong with that. messing around in digital is fun, so i don't think beginners should be totally barred from trying it. drawing's all about having fun after all

>> No.3194651

>>3194627
>Drivers
Make sure that the drivers are going to work with your computer, and that they are updated regularly. This is going to be a main issue with any kind of off-brand tablets. If they haven't updated their drivers in a long time then don't trust it.

>Responsiveness
How responsive is the tablet? Is there a slight lag behind where you're drawing or is the cursor moving precisely wih your stylus? This will happen with any wireless models, so be aware of that. Some people get used to it, others hate it. Wired models are less likely to have that issue. Some knock-off brands are wired but are still laggy so look into them as much as you can if that's what you're aiming for.

>Stylus
Wacom has a patent on battery-free styluses with eraser. They are light and responsive, and never require charging. Other tablets may have a battery inside the stylus which adds weight to it and must be changed out when it dies. Some have a rechargable stylus, but watch out for these as they can die on you and fail to recharge after a while if it's poorly made. Try to find a stylus that is ergonomically made or you can alternatively put a pencil grip on it if it doesn't feel right.

>Tilt/Rotation
Wacom tablets are the only ones I know of that can detect this (again they hold the patent), but in photoshop there are brushes that change with the way you tilt or rotate the stylus. This means you can use a brush that mimics a stick of charcoal or paint brush and draw on the tip or the side, as well as rotate it without having to fuck with the brush menu in photoshop. Most people don't use it, it's really not necessary but can be a nice feature if you find yourself wanting to draw that way.

>Programmable Features
Some tablets will give you the ability to customize the two side buttons on the pen, as well as any shortcut keys on the tablet itself if present. It's up to you whether these are a necessity or not. You can always use a gaming mini keyboard for the same purpose.

>> No.3194659

>>3194647
ok, you keep going in circles bud. if you want to come up with a good rebuttal you need to tell me exactly why having a small tablet and 1 monitor is not preferable to a bigger tablet and 2 monitors.

a small tablet is the best way to start digital drawing why? because it weeds out the ones who have potential and those who just want to fail. it starts with how you control your pressure of not your pen, but your wrist.with such a small space you are forced to control your wrist for fine lines, stabilizers are shit. keep it =< 3 this is the part that takes the most to train. because youre developing muscles. if you start with a bigger tablet you have no define space and too big a canvas that you are forced to draw with your entire arm practically. line control doesnt come from that, it comes from wrists. ultimately it shows how you take care of your tablet with your nibs, if you go thru even one nib in a year, youre doing some wrong. chill the fuck out and apply reasonable pressure, learn control.

as for one monitor, it keeps you in check. if you need two to do work, then your more than likely going to procrastinate, "ill just play a game on this second monitor while i draw" definetely being productive. focus on one thing, and YOU WILL PROGRESS.

>> No.3194664

>>3194644
Lol you don't know shit from shinola, boy. Go scamper back into your little cave collecting terabytes of art books you never read. At least that way you're being useful archiving resources for the people that use them, rather than letting your insecurities control your actions, making you shitpost and spout nonsense in places where people are actually trying to solve problems and learn.

>inb4 anon gets mad and wastes his time trying to argue when he could be working on his shit art

Hurting people hurt people, buddy. Work on your shit and come back when you've got thick skin, eh? Being so sensitive doesn't work out in your favor here.

>> No.3194671

>>3194664
you're the one whos getting triggered and attacking people. im trying to offer real advice while you fell for the shitty memes everyone els here offered you, sorry m8

>> No.3194674

>>3194659
Not that anon. I have two monitors and work just fine, however that's because I was trained in an atelier and am used to looking at the reference next to or in front of me, rather than on the same screen. Having all your reference on a second monitor also gives you your entire first screen for your canvas, which is great.

But then again, when I work I sit down and work until time's up. If you're prone to fucking around and procrastinating, or never use reference (or a whole monitor full of reference) then stick to one monitor until you learn some self control and discipline.

>> No.3194676

>>3194671
>inb4 anon gets mad and wastes his time trying to argue when he could be working on his shit art

called it

>> No.3194678

>>3194659
i don't understand what you're talking about with stabilizers and stuff and i posted my blog with my progress til now already. i think you're taking yourself too seriously, people draw because it's fun. making it easier to draw means you can have more fun drawing. i want to draw lots of things, so a comfortable workspace is important to me.

>> No.3194679

>>3194674
yeah, obviously there are exceptions, but were talking about beginners here.

>> No.3194681
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27QHD review from yaboy

Now I can say that I've used pretty much everything worth using so I can be 100% sure-and I can pass that on to you. This is the Cintiq 27QHD. I set up earlier this morning and I've been using it all day since. So it's no longer about what I think, but what I know about how it is to work directly on the screen, from the very worst models to the very best-I've seen things you moulinyans wouldn't believe.

In the past I'd suggested that perhaps a Cintiq was worthwhile at the highest levels, but I'm here to tell you that I was mostly wrong.

First off I'm having a wonderful time with the drivers. Typically I use Photoshop CS 5, but almost immediately I received the same errors I had with the Cintiq 12WX (pretty impressive considering it was separated by 3 or 4 computer upgrades and at least 2 operating systems): random pressure sensitivity spikes. Chalking it up to outdated software I went to Adobe's page and downloaded CC instead thinking that would solve the issue, but that wasn't happening. Using Photoshop CC the sensitivity was jacked no matter what settings I had enabled or what brush I was using (even the aptly-named "Hard Round Pressure Size") brush. I would get no sensitivity feedback at all.

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Okay, so eventually I moved on to ToonBoom where I'll be doing most of my work anyways, it wouldn't be fair for me to write it off on driver issues alone. Thankfully there was no pressure sensitivity problem, but in the end having worked with it a bit the fact is there's no mystique about drawing on a screen and you should stop entertaining the idea that there is. Apart from losing the ergonomic comfort of the traditional tablet one way or another, because of the need for calibration and the distance between the glass shell and the touchscreen itself you are actually less accurate than you'd be otherwise, and yes, not having your hand obscuring what you draw is nice regardless of how it works with traditional media.

>the "Good"

If you lay it flat on your desk it is accurate and more comfortable for your arm than it is if you leave it vertical like you're doing some Sight-Size shit at an Atelier or whatever, but your neck won't be too happy with you after a while. It is kind of cool to be right up in whatever you're working on's ass just like you were drawing on traditional media, but it's not the revolutionary way to work that some (Wacom especially) would have you believe, especially when it's burning your eyes out of their sockets.

>> No.3194685

>>3193360
By the way, erasers at the back of the pen aren't necessary, most people don't even use them. Just switch between eraser and pen with your keyboard shortcuts, tablet buttons, or pen buttons. The pen nib is more accurate than the eraser ends anyways. So, not a meme tool but definitely not 100% necessary.

>> No.3194686

>>3191490
seconding for input on this tablet, it's cheap enough that i can afford it

>> No.3194687

>>3194676
>argument
you're not the brightest are you

>> No.3194688

>>3194679
I'm just saying if they're a diligent beginner then they could go for it and rock the shit out of a 2 screen setup. Procrastinators though? Waste of money for them.

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(not sure where the fuck that picture for ants came from but w/e)

Verdict:

Something like this won't make you draw faster
Something like this won't make you draw better
Something like this definitely won't make drawing for an extended period of time more comfortable
Something like this isn't worth having, and neither are any of the smaller models, or the Huion/Monoprice/etc. knock offs. Period.

This tablet's distinguishing features are that it's a big ass monitor, and that it's better than a Bamboo or something like that. That's it. Save your money. Upgrade your computer. Buy a second or third monitor. Whatever you do don't buy this, and don't buy anything like it excluding perhaps the Mobile Studio or an Ipad with the Apple Pencil.

Get an Intuos Large, get a Huion Giano, or get fucked one way or another. It's as simple as that. With the Medium-sized tablets and lower you're wasting your time, with the screen tablets you're wasting your money.

I'm here to tell you once and for all, conclusively, that you will never buy your way out of not being able to draw, so stop falling for the marketing bullshit or the people that don't know any better because there's a hell of a lot of them. Probably 95+% of the people on the closed review sites either aren't artists at all or aren't very experienced ones-and even if they are they probably haven't done what I've done as far as this kind of research goes. Listen to your boy Giovanni because I just want what's best for youse.

>> No.3194691

>>3194678
alright im done with you, you clearly have a thick skull if you think anything ive offered is hard to comprehend, go get your big tablet and two monitors and have fun drawing YAY!

>> No.3194693

>>3194681
>>3194683
>>3194690

Thanks for the review

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>>3194691
sorry man im just a beginner. i usually don't do digital because its physically painful and i don't know the terms or techniques and stuff. heres a page from yesterday pls cheer up

>> No.3194695

>>3194690
>says to stop falling for the marketing meme
>further contradicts himself by recommending shitty products
nice b8 yo

>> No.3194696

>>3194634
I'm not the original guy, but I can see clearly that your anger is the only thing that's retarded. How depressed must you be? Try to argue less. Calm down man, you're going to hurt yourself. This dude is going to walk away, get his tablets, have fun drawing. Smile. Enjoy himself. And you're going to keep posting angry arguments to /ic/ and feel like crap.

Is that what you really want?

>> No.3194698

>>3192181
Medium should work just fine, large tablets usually take up too much space anyways, but it all comes down to personal preference.

>> No.3194701

>>3194693
NP

>>3194695
I said "perhaps" and the only reason being that you can take those devices anywhere. If you don't travel frequently or have any intention to I wouldn't recommend those, either. Some people might be able to get away with drawing at work with a tablet like that, but wouldn't be able to bring their entire laptop and separate drawing tablet with them like I can. It's a case-by-case sort of thing.

>> No.3194703

I disagree with mediums being fine, but in either case you should build your workspace around your drawing equipment rather than the reverse to be honest. I know dealing with desks, tables and chairs etc. isn't fun but ergonomics are important.

>> No.3194705

>>3187282
Almost. Depending on the tablet and the angle you are viewing at, as well as how it's calibrated, there will always be some distance between the screen and the glass drawing surface. That means your cursor on the screen and stylus will be offset slightly. This takes some getting used to, and depending on the model of tablet (and how thick the glass is, how well the drivers play with your computer) can be ignored for the most part or will drive you absolutely insane.

Aside from that yes it feels about the same as drawing traditionally. There is not the total feeling of disconnect and re-training of hand-eye coordination that comes with tablets without screens.

>> No.3194706

>>3194696
what makes you think im arguing? because i called someone off? stop being a baby. having a rebuttal isnt an argument, its a debate. pretty cute that you can assume people are angry thru text.

>> No.3194707

>>3194703
meant for
>>3194698

>> No.3194708

>>3186048
What you're looking for is called a tablet pc. Make sure you find one with pen pressure sensitivity, though. Some digitizers in tablet pcs are even made by wacom, so keep an eye out.

>> No.3194715

>>3194703
Yeah, I travel a lot so it has to fit in my laptop bag.

Do you really use the entire area on the large tablet or do you find yourself mostly using a small section of it? And how do you set up your workspace ergonamically around a huge tablet like that?

>> No.3194717

>>3192225
Wacom did a name-change with the brands, so an Intuos is now the equivalent of a Bamboo, and Intuos Pro is the new name for the Intuos line.

So the new Intuos tablets are going to not have shortcut buttons (or not have very many), they are smaller, and have less pressure sensitivity. Generally they're your basic beginners tablets, I guess. Intuos pro has all the bells and whistles and whatnot - higher pressure sensitivity, bigger size, shortcut buttons and dials, wireless, capacative touch screen, etc.

>> No.3194718

>>3194706
>replies with an argument.

lol

>> No.3194720 [DELETED] 

>>3194715
Not him but it's not entirely uncommon to use a relatively small portion of it. Personally I draw from the shoulder more often than not so I do make pretty good use of a good portion of the surface area. However, the accuracy of the larger tablets comes from the space that's there, not the space you use. With any tablet like that you're compressing your monitor's screen onto your tablet's drawing surface, so relative size is paramount. You might use most of the drawing surface of your Medium but it will still feel quite slippery and often require many "restatements" to get an accurate line depending on how large your monitor is in relation to it.

>> No.3194728

>>3194715

It's not entirely uncommon to use a relatively small portion of it. Personally I draw from the shoulder more often than not so I do make pretty good use of a good portion of the surface area. However, the accuracy of the larger tablets comes from the space that's there, not the space you use. With any tablet like that you're compressing your monitor's screen onto your tablet's drawing surface, so relative size is paramount. You might use most of the drawing surface of your Medium but it will still feel quite slippery and often require many "restatements" to get an accurate line depending on how large your monitor is in relation to it.

If you're using a Medium in conjunction with something like a Microsoft Surface or something else with like a 10-12 inch screen it's actually pretty pleasant and fairly comparable to what you get with a Large on a screen that's between 15-20 inches.

>> No.3194729

A final test, I'm going to plug my Intuos Large into my 27 QHD and see how the Large handles this huge monitor. I suspect it's going to be pretty shitty. Here goes.

>> No.3194730

>>3194718
if thats an argument then you probably did't go to primary school, sorry lad.

>> No.3194731

>>3194728
That makes sense. Thanks!

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To the anons that have non-Wacom tablets:

What model tablet do you have and how long have you used it for? Is it unusable, acceptable, or stellar, and why? Have any parts of your tablet broken yet, or is it still in one piece?

I have a hard time trusting the reviews I'm seeing, they seem like shills or people who review the tablet after an hour of using it, and never update when they have a major issue. So any experiences you've had are appreciated.

pic unrelated

>> No.3194743

>>3194730
>resorts to insults desprate for an argument

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>>3194730
Yo just popping back in to tell you that ad-hominem is a logical fallacy and isn't accepted in any kind of legitimate debate I've ever heard of.

You can return to wasting your time just like I predicted, though. It's been very entertaining during my breaks from drawing.

:^)

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>>3194729
I'm surprised it actually works. As I suspected it doesn't feel quite as tight as it does when I use it in conjunction with my 17inch laptop screen, but it's not as bad as I thought. I suppose the QHD isn't a hell of a lot bigger than my secondary monitor.

>>3194740

Get the Huion Giano. Huion's drivers are no more troublesome than Wacom's are, in my experience. See: My review above of a $2000 Wacom Cintiq with a $500 ergo-stand.

This <$200 tablet is nearly as good as my $400~ Intuos Large. I'd still say the extra money is worth it for the Large if you can hoof it, though.

>> No.3194763

>>3194760
>Huion Giano
How long have you had yours for?

I've read that buyers have had issues with the drawing surface peeling off from the middle, the tablet suddenly breaking, etc, after a few months to a year.

>> No.3194769 [DELETED] 

>>3194763
Seeing as it hasn't been out a year I don't think guess I'm not sure. I haven't had any problems though. The surface feels identical to the Wacom Intuos 3 surface which is, in my opinion, great. The only shortcoming of the Giano in my experience is the stylus which has marginally worse pressure sensitivity than its Wacom equivalents, no eraser, can't have a button and pen input at the same time and needs to be charged from time to time. All forgivable flaws if you really don't want to spend an extra couple hundred dollars, but I personally think the extra cost for the Intuos Large is worth it, begrudgingly.

OH one thing I do remember is that my Giano got fucked up by being left out in the cold; bubbles had formed on its drawing surface. However with exposure to room temperature for a while they disappeared and it continued to function as normal.

>> No.3194772

>>3194763
Seeing as it hasn't been out for quite a year I guess I'm not sure. I haven't had any problems though. The surface feels identical to the Wacom Intuos 3 surface which is, in my opinion, great. The only shortcoming of the Giano in my experience is the stylus which has marginally worse pressure sensitivity than its Wacom equivalents, no eraser, can't have a button and pen input at the same time and needs to be charged from time to time. All forgivable flaws if you really don't want to spend an extra couple hundred dollars, but I personally think the extra cost for the Intuos Large is worth it, begrudgingly.

OH one thing I do remember is that my Giano got fucked up by being left out in the cold; bubbles had formed on its drawing surface. However with exposure to room temperature for a while they disappeared and it continued to function as normal. Still, I wouldn't recommend leaving it out in your car during winter lmoa

>> No.3194774

>>3194772
One problem I had heard was people having stylus pens with bad batteries. While I think if you buy one and have that problem they'd probably send you a new one for free, luckily they're only $20 so it's not a huge loss in either case, unlike the Wacom stylus which I think is 70 or 80.

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I'm so delirious from staring into this monstrous thing that my writing is getting incoherent. Part of me wants to put it through its paces a bit more but I really don't see the point. It's a big, clumsy turd of a device and if I didn't think I could truly help somebody by actually going out of my way to buy it I never would have. Never let anyone tell you you don't have a Cintiq because "you're jealous" or "you can't afford it" again because you're the person I'm speaking to and did this for.

Once more, here's what an honest-if-inarticulate review for a $3000 drawing tablet looks like:

>>3194681
>>3194683
>>3194690

Arrivederci for now.

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Let's talk ergonomics. How do you set up your battlestation to be the most comfortable and ergonomic?

>> No.3195004

>>3194854
Is this infographic saying there's no ergonomic way to use a screen tablet?

>> No.3195099

>>3194705
Thanks!

>> No.3195178

How's the q11k

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>>3194854
I don't think one exists that's better than mine to be honest. This $50 Ikea table makes an awesome desk, and its adjustable feet are pretty much essential in case your floors are a little uneven (I wouldn't use a folding table or something like that). I've got a stand so the top of my monitor is about eye level and a little folded towel I can rest my elbow on.

>>3195004
I had a hard time finding one on the QHD. I tried it completely vertical atelier-style, angled and flat like those shown in the pic. Laying it flat was by far the most accurate because your arm and elbow aren't working against gravity-but you won't be comfortable doing that either because of your neck.

Because of the parallax between the glass protector screen and the actual monitor you really have to get directly over your drawing and right up in its corn hole to see what you're doing. When you get there it's kind of cool but it's also uncomfortable as hell. It's actually not as similar to drawing on paper as I'd have thought previously from the outside. When drawing in pencil I can maintain a pretty high angle with my shoulders and just kind of look downwards and still draw fairly well. I didn't feel I could do that with the Cintiq because there's like a solid centimeter's difference between your pen and the drawing surface when you look at it from anywhere other than straight on.

>> No.3195399

Do Huion drivers play nice with Mac? I recently got a New 1060 and it works fine on my Win7 desktop but the input is terrible. It goes to 100% intensity every few inches and registers the brush much after I've picked it off the tablet. I've downloaded the newest drivers, installed and reinstalled the drivers, removed old Wacom drivers, and still can't get it to work how it does on my desktop.

>> No.3196198

so I got a Wacom Inutos Pro PTH660.

My first tablet, never had one before. My computer uses Windows 7, and has never had a Tablet hooked up to it before.

No matter what I do, I can't get it to work.

I've done exactly as Wacom suggested on their start page.

>Connected tablet to PC via USB
>Installed the latest drivers
>Restarted every time I got prompted to do so
>Ran Wacom Desktop Center
>Tell me no device connected, and the pen/tablet don't work at all.

I've tried removing the drivers, reinstalling, and doing everything people have suggested but for the life of me I can't get this damn thing to work.

Anyone got any suggestions, tips, or ideas on what to do?

>> No.3196215

>>3196198
has your computer ever recognized it at all? it should be able to function like a mouse even without drivers. if not, it sounds like a hardware problem.

>> No.3196381

>>3172028
Damn, I have one right in front of me.

Sucks though, given how you can't do much with it without constant scratchiness.

>> No.3196452

Anyone have any good exercises for training hand-eye coordination with a screenless tablet?

>> No.3196480

>>3196452
fps games? strategy?

>> No.3196717

How good would the note 8 be for drawing

>> No.3196745

>>3196452
I played Osu! a lot

>> No.3196787

How about a Surface Pro 4? Kinda want to draw on the go. Is that any good? Planning to get the i7 one soon.

>> No.3196802

>>3168777
I use this one every day for hours. It was very easy to install, and works perfectly. The colors of the screen are not the best though, and since it's not IPS, the colors you see vary depending on the angle. I do mostly b&w so I don't mind.

>> No.3196867

>>3196215
It didn't recognize it at all, didn't work as a mouse or anything.

I tried it out with a different computer and the tablet worked fine.

I decided to remove all the drives, everything related to the tablet, and then ran through Windows Updates.

After Windows updated enough times, I tried again and the tablet works fine now.

Thought I'd post that in case anyone else has any problems with Wacom Intuos Pro. My problem stems from skipping out on Windows Upate one too many times.

>> No.3197297
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Any of you have any experience with Wacom Cintiq Pro 13? I recently bought one and I can't get it to display anything. Otherwise it works fine and recognizes the pen and touch, Only NO SIGNAL box hovers on the screen.
This is a first drawing tablet for me and I just afterwards discovered the bad reputation it has with connection and cable difficulties.
I of course updated my drivers (Nvidia GTX950) and any drivers and updates what the Cintiq itself needed.

So I think the issue for me is this new USB-C and mini DisplayPort what the Cintiq Pro has. I have never encountered these two until now.
My PC is somewhere from 2015 so it doesn't have either of these ports, only HDMI (2x) and regular DisplayPort (3x).
These USB-C and mini DisplayPorts are something what Macs use?

First I got my hands on mini DisplayPort to HDMI cable but surprisingly it didn't have any effect. Still my PC couldn't recognize the Cintiq as second screen.
After this I discovered that there are special manufacturers whose products are compatible with Pro 13 (and recommended by Wacom) but I thought that it can't be that retarded. Does it really count that much who made the damn cable?

After that I tried USB-c to USB cable but it didn't work either. I figured as much since it was something designed for mobile phones but why not.
Last thing I had was Mini DisplayPort to HDMI converter which I hooked from Wacom Link to the PC via HDMI cable. No luck.

Only now I went through every nook of the interned related to this thing and it seems many other customer has similar kind of issues, although I didn't find any universal solution to these problems.
Lastly I ordered DisplayPort to mini DisplayPort converter (what was recommended in some Youtube video) and that can be the final push I am willing to do. If that doesn't work, I will send the fucker back to depths of hell where it came from.

Thanks for reading.

>> No.3197322

>>3172938
>this garbage
>winning something at all
the state of our society

>> No.3197324

>>3178713
I have the exact same model.Props to you tabletbro

>> No.3197329

>>3197297
You posted the same thing yesterday, told you those adapters are shit and the tablet is kinda fucked by Wacom's stupid choices. Good luck with your new adapter, there's not much you could do in that situation - Wacom aren't willing to help much for people who carelessly buy their products without checking connections beforehand (this is also mentioned over and over in Amazon reviews as well). I still don't understand how you bought something so expensive without checking the most basic things first.

If it doesn't work I recommend you get the older models, again. They will work perfectly - they only need HDMI + USB.

>> No.3197331

So I'm contacting a government youth program to give me a fancy tablet. I want a tablet that's comfortably wide, and portable at the same time. Price is not in issue.

>> No.3197354

>>3179209
>my $20 huion stylus broke so I wasted hours trying to fix it and, failing to do so, decided to purchase a $300 tablet to replace the entire thing instead. I am a genius!

>>3181367
>the paper gimmick is really nice

Explain how.

>> No.3197358

>>3185932
>"Super Smooth"

What?

The current Intuos models are NOT smooth at all. Their surfaces are like sandpaper which is why you're having to replace the expensive nibs literally two days after buying the thing begin with. I also notice you're not using the paper clip there. Why not? It's "really nice" isn't it?

>> No.3197361

What makes wacoms $3000 tablet monitor better than huions $800 one?

>> No.3197536

>>3197361
more than anything, brand-name recognition. With Wacom Cintiq, you know you're gonna get (or not, what with the the weird 2 day nib wear-down with the new cintiq.)

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>>3197361
If it's anything in comparison to the difference between the regular Wacom and Huion tablets it would be that the stylus for the Huion is worse when it comes to both its overall feel and pressure sensitivity recognition.

Is the difference in the stylus worth considering when comparing the $160 Giano vs a <$400 Intuos Large? Maybe. Is it worth spending an extra $1200 or whatever between a QHD and Huion's display tablet offerings? Probably not, but I don't think display tablets are worth investing in regardless so I'll leave that to someone else's discretion while I throw this 27 QHD in the garbage where it belongs lmoa

>> No.3197697

>>3195399
So I fixed it by downloading the drivers again and reinstalling. They were seemingly a different set of drivers than the ones I downloaded the first time. Works flawlessly now.

>> No.3197794

>>3157096
I've order the GT191 it supposet to have 8000+ levels like a wacom so will see how it goes

>> No.3197812

>>3197794
Don't take their advertised pressure levels too seriously. In realistic terms you can only make consistent use of around a dozen. As an example the Huion Giano has the same number of pressure levels as an Intuos Pro (2048) but it feels completely different to draw with-worse I might add-the Huion reaching its peak pressure with a fairly light touch. Perhaps their newer models have better pens though, hell if I know.

>> No.3197844

I can't use a drawing programs unless the stabilizer is turned all the way up. Tablets are almost unusable for me without it. What should I do?

>> No.3197849

>>3197844
What tablet are you using? Stabilizers don't do dick

>> No.3197862

>>3157109
Drawing from the shoulder, on a tablet? Is this fucking meme still a thing?

Drawing from the shoulder is ONE way to draw, not the only way. Drawing from the shoulder is only applicable for large drawing/painting surfaces. Drawing from the elbow and wrist is fine for smaller areas. And, before some neckbeard starts mooing about carpal tunnel, I've been painting from the wrist longer than most of you have been alive, and I have no issues whatsoever.

You pick an appropriate method of drawing, determined by what you're working on. Drawing detail is from the wrist. Drawing long flowing lines and filling large canvases is from the shoulder. You don't paint a wall from the wrist, and you don't write a sentence from the shoulder.

>> No.3197881

>>3197844
A bamboo. It slows down the curser.

>> No.3197905

>>3197881
Meant for
>>3197849

>> No.3198352

Should I blow half of my uni maintenance loans on a Cintiq or nah?

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I've been having constant issues with my Ugee 1910b ever since I got it over a year ago, to the point where I've hardly used it and it's basically just a 400$ secondary monitor.

Constantly after a restart the tablet settings won't show up in the system tray, which also means the pen isn't detected on the tablet. There's no shortcut anywhere, opening PLaunch.exe from the tablet folder in program files (x86) does nothing- even if I try "run as administrator"- same with WTClient from both System32 and SysWOW64. Wintab Service is running according to my settings under administrative tools. According to Ugee’s troubleshooting page everything is working, but clearly it’s not (yes, the pens are charged).

It works after uninstalling the driver, deleting wintab.dll, and reinstalling the driver (I do have the latest version from the Ugee site), but then the process repeats after a couple more restarts or waking my computer from Sleep mode. If this can’t be fixed, I’m fine with the constant uninstall -> reinstall process, but then there’s another issue.

Almost every time I reinstall the driver, there's new pen issues. It was working fine last month, but after a restart whenever I brought the pen to the screen the cursor would always go to the far edge and move horizontally but not vertically. I repeated the process of wiping everything and getting the latest driver update, and now the X Y offset is off. I’ve messed around in the Pen Tablet controls’ Monitor Setting and my monitor Display Settings and tried multiple options. So far the only thing that seems to work is restarting my computer with only the tablet monitor connected and keeping it that way until I’m done drawing. As you can see in the picture, the X and Y offset doesn’t match the monitor dimensions, but I can’t click the arrows to manually change that.

So any help on either of these issues would be appreciated. I'm running Windows 10 Pro, 64bit.

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>>3198352
No

>> No.3198948

>>3198352
That's a fucking terrible idea. Get a cheap but similar one if you absolutely must right now. Huion have good reviews but I haven't used any personally. Otherwise be areasonable adult, put that money aside for school and put a bit of every pay you get (and/or get a job ya nong) and save that way.

Think of it this way anon - cintiqs will get cheaper but your loans will get more expensive. You get better value in the long term if you don't buy the cintiq.

>> No.3199006

Is $675 USD a good deal for a 13.3" Cintiq?

Currently using a New 1060 Plus Huion and thinking about upgrading.

>> No.3199007

>>3196717
Bump

>> No.3199016

Is 8192 levels of smart sensitivity a meme?

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>>3157095
While we are on this topic, is there a sceen tablet I can use to draw that doesn't need a computer? I basically just want a digitla pad I can draw on while at a park/street/bus... does such a thing exist?????

kinda like pic related???

>> No.3199291

>>3197358
I don't know but it FEELS super smooth, great and all. It eats the nibs but the feeling is still here.
>I also notice you're not using the paper clip there.
Well I'm not drawing with a pen so no, why would I ?

>> No.3199293

>>3199275
Unless you're willing to settle for an iPad or can afford Wacom's Mobilestudio Pro tablet computers, no there isn't.

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>>3197354
Didn't see you answered all my posts.
>my $20 huion stylus broke so I wasted hours trying to fix it and, failing to do so, decided to purchase a $300 tablet to replace the entire thing instead. I am a genius!
Ok.
Are you retarded ?
I mean my stylus broke, I tried to repair it, without wasting hours because I quickly understood I couldn't, then I decided it was time to change and ordered a proper tablet.
How is that difficult to understand ?

The paper thing works really well, why would I shit on it ?
I'm not using it daily but it's cool for some quick sketches, signatures and some other shits.

>> No.3199295

>>3199293
>Wacom's Mobilestudio Pro
Let's say I can pay it, is it worth it ?
Or am I going to sacrifice quality over the comfort of taking my shit anywere?

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>>3199016
When you look at all of the great art that couldn't have been made with anything greater than 2048 or even 1024 pressure levels what do you think?

the Intuos 3 imho is the best tablet Wacom ever made and it had a limit of 1024 pressure levels. It's an arbitrary number and marketing gimmick that doesn't reflect the reality of our own limitations to consciously apply pressure.

>> No.3199365

>>3199295
>is it worth it?
No. Lugging around a >$3000 tablet outside and in public transportation isn't really practical unless you make enough money to offset the cost and the chances of it being stolen or broken

>> No.3199386

>>3199275
>>3199293
There's the Surface series, I've got the Pro 4 and I don't think I can go back to my graphic pad. It's pretty lightweight, really mobile and runs Windows.
Only downside I can say is the price tag. Maybe you can settle for the Pro 3, I've heard mixed things but there's pretty much not much difference between them for drawing.

>> No.3199438

>>3196452
drawing

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I've got a budget of around £100 GBP and want to liberate myself from my bamboo.
I was thinking of getting a huion Q11K because it has a larger active area in a smaller footprint than a 1060 plus (and fuck express keys lmao) but I'm wondering if there are any other good alternatives?

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>>3199275
iPad Pro, Surface Pro 3 and 4.

I love my Surface Pro 2 for everything other than drawing, but the parallax on the Wacom Feel pen is really, really bad. I tried SP3s and 4s in store and thought they were alright- the pen uses a different technology with much reduced parallax.

Bought a refurbished old model Intuos Pen and Touch recently. Anyone else have it? What's your experience? I miss my Intuos 3 ;~;

>> No.3199713

>>3199300
/3/ told me to avoid 1024 at all costs though (sculpting).

>> No.3199729

>>3199640
This looks kinda nice

https://www.storexppen.com/buy/39.html

>> No.3199730

>>3199640
If you're moving from a Wacom you'll be sorely disappointed with the build quality of offbrand tablets desu
they work okay though

>> No.3199736

>>3199730
Not him but my New cintiq 16 is quite flimsy. The bezels are not flushed and the level of light bleed is unacceptable for a 1.5k USD device.

>> No.3199738

>>3199729
ah yes, I was eyeing that one too. Is it any good? I'm mostly looking at express keys and that rocker ring. Does it compare to the intuos pro rocker ring?

>> No.3199740

>>3199736
Maybe they've gotten worse. RIP Intuos 3.

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I have a galaxy tab a 10.1 right now but I'm thinking of switching to an iPad pro 10.5 with pencil. The thing is I want to be able to use the iPad as a graphics tablet for my desktop as well. I don't have a Mac so astropad isn't an option for me and I read that duet pro still has some tapering/wobble issues with windows. Should I upgrade from the tab a or just keep rocking it and save for a graphics tablet for the desktop?

>> No.3199749

>Clip Studio Paint EX for iPad
nigga what the fuck???

legit no reason to buy any of the smaller cintiqs then lol

>> No.3199769

>>3199713
Take it with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity meant something completely different today then it did back then. I honestly don't remember there being a functional difference between the Intuos 3 stylus and the 2048 level stylii that came later as far as drawing is concerned, but I have heard others in threads like these imply that the more recent Bamboo/Intuos models with 1024 have relatively inconsistent pressure when I'd brought up similar problems I'd had with the 2048 Huion. Without having the two tablets right next to one another I couldn't say for sure though.

>>3199730
This $2500 Wacom paperweight sitting on the ground to my right might have good "build quality" but it also failed to register pressure sensitivity correctly across two generations of photoshop with several driver reinstalls-and arrived without its colors calibrated in order to coerce people into buying an expensive ass hardware accessory. At this point I'm not sure if I should resell it or wait for another driver release and try again. Either way I don't really trust Wacom and their build quality worth a damn at this point personally. It seems like they were better when they maintained a veritable monopoly than now when their competition is bringing itself up.

>> No.3199879

I haven't drawn in years
I used to use an Intuos 3, now I have a Huion Giano, I was always let's say "advanced beginner" but I got used to the tablet pretty well
Is it a good idea ease myself back in by going back to the Intuos? Or should I just go for the new one?

>> No.3199930

>>3199879
If you already have the Giano it should be adequate, frankly you're better off than most of the people in this thread. There isn't much setting the Intuos 3 apart (even the surface feel is similar) other than the pressure sensitivity which despite the lower number of "pressure levels" remains an x-factor.

>> No.3199931

>>3199930
>There isn't much setting the Intuos 3 apart
it's much, much smaller.

>> No.3199938

>>3199931
Nah man. The 3 came in several different models, and the 9 x 12 version is roughly the same size as its contemporaries in the Large category, maybe an inch smaller than the Giano in either direction. I'm tempted to buy one once I sell the 27QHD to see how it stacks up to newer Intuos and the Giano. I suspect it might be just as good or better than either. Everything apart from the supposed pressure levels are essentially identical.

>> No.3199943

Anyone here tried the Huion New 1060 Plus? Thinking about getting it as a first tablet.

>> No.3199964

>>3199938
>The 3 came in several different models
well I guess I have the small one. I know what tablet I have, dude.

>> No.3200068

>>3199964
I'm sorry, for some reason I kind of assumed you'd gotten rid of it and were looking into replacing it with another one. My mistake!

>conflated "used to use" as "used to have"

...but yeah with that said, don't use small tablets dawg lmoa

>>3199943
Man fuck that thing, get a used Intuos Large n*gga.

There's no such thing as a "beginner" tablet or a "first" tablet or whatever-there's only screwing yourself over long term to save an inconsequential amount of money. Even if you bought one of Wacom's latest models now new at $400 or whatever you could sell it for $250-300 easily at any time years later if you take care of it, or pretty much exactly what you paid for it if you buy it used. Don't shit on your drawing accuracy for years because you don't want to spend a couple more days' worth of pay. Gnomesaiyan?

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>>3200068
a huion is not going to shit on his drawing accuracy. back in the day people used to work on these shits with gimp, and still steadily improved. As a complete beginner, your tools don't really matter at this point. a hion new 1060 plus is a perfect "first tablet".

>> No.3200163

Cintiq 13HD for around 400 or 22HD for around 1000?
whats the better choice price/device combo?

>> No.3200178

>>3200163
where are you getting a cintiq 13HD for 400? used on ebay? anyway, obviously the cintiq 22HD is better. If you can, go for that one. It's the tablet all Disney animators use.

>> No.3200179

>>3200151
I'd say a Huion H950P would be better because battery free pen, but yeah.

>> No.3200184

>>3200163
Jesus, a whole 1000 chickens? I wouldn't barter that.

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>>3200151
>a huion is not going to shit on his drawing accuracy.

If it didn't do exactly that then the larger models and Cintiqs wouldn't exist. Tablets like that are on the cusp of being good but they're not, that's why people go right from them to a overpriced and overrated Cintiq of one sort or another all the damn time.

>back in the day people used to work on these shits with gimp, and still steadily improved

They would have improved faster with better software and better hardware, which leads to my next point.

>As a complete beginner, your tools don't really matter at this point

Absolutely disagree. A beginner has every incentive to get the best equipment they can conceivably afford even if they have to save up for it-and I'm definitely not talking about a Cintiq. Intuos Medium-sized tablets like the 1060 are slippery enough on typical computer monitors that the extra couple hundred dollars are well worth it for a Large, or a Giano at the bare minimum. There's basically no reason for the others to exist at this point.

Why you'd commit yourself to drawing hours every day and ever relegate yourself to anything but the best equipment you can get is a mystery to me. Accuracy is time, and time is money-whether in the figurative or literal sense. Gnomesaiyan dawg? Real talk tbhfam.

>>3200163
Probably the 22HD. Just make sure you buy a $250.00 Wacom® Color Manager (sold separately) so you can correctly calibrate it yourself

https://us-store.wacom.com/Product/wacom-color-manager?sku=EODIS3-DCWA

>> No.3200196

>>3200193
>doing roids
>dying from roids
opinion invalidated

>> No.3200202

>>3200193
>A beginner has every incentive to get the best equipment they can conceivably afford
>I'm definitely not talking about a Cintiq

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>>3200196
He didn't die, he left humanity behind.

>>3200202
Cintiqs are a joke. I've now used the worst (12WX) and in this very thread I've used the best (27QHD)

>>3194681
>>3194683
>>3194690

...so I've earned the right to say that. I probably have more experience with tablets than many noteworthy artists do at this point. The screen is a meme. You're still better off with a Cintiq than something like a Intuos Medium, Small or equivalent model though. It's better to waste your money than waste your time (having to zoom in 300% or undo 47 times whenever you decide to lay a mark down). Spend the money now or really pay the price later bro.

>> No.3200214

Is a (barely) used Intuos Pro Medium Paper Ed. for €200 a good deal? I assume you can use it like the normal versions as well?

Just asking because the Paper Ed. is cheaper than other models, otherwise I assume it's a bit of a gimmick.

>> No.3200229

>>3200214
Ok, I saw that you can.

For reference retail is at €420 and non paper mediums go for €250, so 200 for this paper ed. seems really/too good?

Or are 2017 models so crap that I should try to find an older model?

>> No.3200237

>>3198755
Bump. Would really like to get this fixed, especially the second issue.

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>>3200237
>Ugee

Never heard of it. If Wacom can't make a $3000 screen work properly there's no way in hell I'd trust Huion, Ugee, XP-Pen etc. to do so.

>> No.3200317

>>3200237
>>3200251
Sorry that kind of came off as douchey unintentionally. I don't think there's too many people with that tablet here, man. You should call or email Ugee and see if they're able to help.

If it's any consolation, when I bought my 12WX years ago that quickly became a $1,200 paperweight because it had problems similar to what I'm experiencing with the 27 QHD rn. I've spent about $4,000 on paperweights so far.

>> No.3200349

new thread >>3200343

>> No.3201181

>>3157095
Hey, so I'm an aspiring professional concept artist. I still have about $2,000 in Graduation cash to use on a cintiq. For the past five years I used a medium Wacom Intuos pro.

Anybody have recommendation for which cintiq to get? I've been looking at the Wacom 16 inch one, anyone have any experience?

>> No.3201541

>>3157134
>Anyone else had issues with this model?
I have one, the stylus skates across the drawing surface like a duck on ice but I think that may be an issue with all tablets, personally I really enjoy it.
What program are you trying to use the tablet with?