/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:10:16 2017 No.3118982 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

OLD THREAD: >>3116189

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:10:27 2017 No.3118983
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ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:13:48 2017 No.3118988 >>3118876 Pls help

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:15:00 2017 No.3118990 File: 74 KB, 720x1200, DIidsHJUEAAB_fJ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:18:17 2017 No.3118996 >>3118988 by my inexperienced eye I see too little difference of values between the trees

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:26:58 2017 No.3119009 >>3118996 You're right. Didn't see that before. I checked another piece I did and it had the same problem. I will post a new painting soon

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:31:51 2017 No.3119014 >>3118990 Cranium too small

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:34:33 2017 No.3119015 File: 30 KB, 304x895, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I doing this right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:37:47 2017 No.3119017 File: 93 KB, 961x366, 1494009875540.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:38:39 2017 No.3119018 >>3119015 actually yes it looks decent. looks like she holds weight and form, but what pose is she doing? looks natural though, just awkward the calfs probably too big though

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:40:19 2017 No.3119020 >>3119017 ok for a gesture, but even still too inaccurate for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:41:47 2017 No.3119021 >>3119017 n e c c

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:43:24 2017 No.3119022 >>3119018 I just tried to do a generic contrapposto, like a greek statue or whatever

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 03:47:58 2017 No.3119025 >>3118990 finally fix that shit goodness.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:02:32 2017 No.3119033 File: 156 KB, 730x1020, ab.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Feet again. Can't stop won't stop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:03:08 2017 No.3119035 File: 113 KB, 816x666, c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] More feet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:04:28 2017 No.3119036 >>3119035 the most bizarre method of construction i have seen it doesnt look like 3d space so its probably bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:05:10 2017 No.3119037 >>3119036 well it looks like it works as far as I can tell

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:05:48 2017 No.3119039 >>3119036 I had the same thoughts too. I had a little trouble comprehending how these flat shapes somehow translated as 3d objects, so I just assumed that the person who created these had it in their mind already to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:06:14 2017 No.3119041 >>3119037 its ok, does it have the potential for higher accuracy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:26:31 2017 No.3119053 File: 171 KB, 1600x733, 46 - qUHLj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119041 Well it does seem like a rather simple method, it might need help constructing how the foot connects to the lower leg

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:27:50 2017 No.3119054 File: 8 KB, 472x538, 3d2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119039 >I had a little trouble comprehending how these flat shapes somehow translated as 3d objects Nigga...

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 04:59:55 2017 No.3119077 >>3119053 Compare this method to >>3119035 One uses organic forms and the other doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 05:09:13 2017 No.3119086 >>3119054 with the two triangles being next to each other in >>3119033 on the bottom right, I wouldn't have guessed that's why it's strange to me

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>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 06:35:23 2017 No.3119149 File: 1.66 MB, 1440x972, Gestures.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone here know how i could improve my gesture drawing? these are all 30 sec

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 06:44:23 2017 No.3119150 File: 72 KB, 832x767, File_000-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tips?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 06:45:38 2017 No.3119151 >>3119150 He's too skinny lengthwise. Use a reference.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 07:20:16 2017 No.3119156
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>>3119150
His head + neck is pretty big compared to the rest of his body and the torso seems big compared to the hands. The hand outstretched is usually as big as the bottom of the chin to the hairline, though this depends on age

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 07:27:25 2017 No.3119159 >>3119151 >>3119156 tnx senpai, got any tips on finding good references?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 07:32:41 2017 No.3119168 >>3119159 Google, a mirror or those virtual modelling softwares.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 07:57:34 2017 No.3119203 >>3119053 These doesn't look like construction, wouldn't they be more akin to "abstraction"? Such as the Reilly method?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 07:59:56 2017 No.3119208 File: 303 KB, 862x971, IMG_20170831_073835_905.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] halp what the fukk am i doin

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 08:00:31 2017 No.3119209 File: 1.08 MB, 639x1060, 1504156659982.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119208

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 08:08:20 2017 No.3119227

>>3119209
You made his face look wider. Also... It looks too tilted. And his hair looks too... Voluminously upward?

I'm not sure if I can give you this advice but when I copy from portraits I measure stuffs autistically with plumb lines/outward angles like Bargue. I get great results from it but it's pretty slow and tiresome. It works, but /ic/ tells me that it's autistic.

Granted my level of eyeballing isn't that accurate so I do it. I don't know if there's a better method but doing observational studies rely on relative proportions so...

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 08:37:56 2017 No.3119250
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>>3118545
here is what i drew today. sorry that the teeth are in more detail than the rest but It got boring.
and forgive me for copying the way >>3118344 drew but I admire it and wanted to try it.
Please give criticism it is appreciated

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 08:41:57 2017 No.3119253 File: 32 KB, 480x720, TVYGVREFS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119250 source

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 08:47:10 2017 No.3119258 File: 46 KB, 705x829, IMG_0379.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119150 Better anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 08:48:01 2017 No.3119259 >>3119258 Really no. You have great lineart but you need to do a lot more gestures.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 08:51:39 2017 No.3119262 >>3119258 Specifically the limbs look a bit funky and loose without as much energy as I think that the movement would naturally require.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:01:45 2017 No.3119268 >>3119258 if you're graced with self awareness please consider creating comic strips. these are so funny. not meant in a demeaning way

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:03:14 2017 No.3119269 File: 340 KB, 558x852, WznEyUm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kill me now

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>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:08:46 2017 No.3119273 >>3119269 Have you tried actually reading loomis?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:09:38 2017 No.3119275 >>3119273 Yes hence the construction I'm trying to do

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:19:57 2017 No.3119283 >>3119275 Which plate are you at?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:22:16 2017 No.3119286 >>3119283 I've been trying to practise the stuff at plate 1-2. Haven't really moved on since my drawings are still horseshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:35:53 2017 No.3119301 >>3119286 Keep reading.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 09:40:55 2017 No.3119307 File: 204 KB, 1316x860, 31_08_17.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some cube practice which turned into something else. I guess i'll start cylinders then.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 10:03:39 2017 No.3119319

>>3119301
I really think that these kinds of advice isn't good for newbies, especially not this Loomis book since it's badly organised; he/she is obviously stuck because they are doing the exercise badly. Making them go further will fuck up their foundations if they can't manage to understand how the most basic of the exercises works. Doing shit that they don't even know why they're doing them may lead them internalising bad habits.

It's like in maths, don't play with algebra before mastering arithmetics or you'll be in for a tough time.

>>3119286
Anon, the point is not to copy 1-1 of the plates. Plate 1 tells you how and why to construct the head from the ball and then the crosspoint, then how the middle line extends through the ball in order to create the chin. It didn't teach you about the facial features placement? Because that's not what you're supposed to do. You're going to learn that later. If Loomis made no comment about it, don't do it.

I assume the reason Loomis put in facial features is because he wanted to showcase you how the ball will be used later on. He always does that and it's confusing a fuck I know. Just a reminder that you should following the text while analysing and copying the plates on the go. If there's no text for a plate? Don't do it and go to the next plate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 10:06:40 2017 No.3119320 >>3119286 So in a way... You overdid it. If you want more feedback putting in the number of plate you're doing so I can have an easier time checking how well you did. The most essential skill for Loomis' books is actually reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 10:33:29 2017 No.3119346 >>3119150 >>3119258 Study anatomy. Hands at a side position stop at about the middle of the thigh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 10:46:35 2017 No.3119359 >>3118982 How do you make yourself draw when you don't want to?

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 10:58:49 2017 No.3119367

>>3119359
Why would you want to draw if you don't want to? Is it to get good, but to what end?

If you don't find it fun then don't do it; drawing is a hobby. Never forget that if you want to keep it enjoyable.

Some might have more fun drawing while talking to someone, others when they join a group or a challenge, some are more motivated if they had been given a task like an assignment. The answer? It depends.

And drawing mindlessly won't make you improve, so forcing yourself to doodle isn't a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:04:11 2017 No.3119370 >>3119367 I used to avoid making drawings cuz I hated the way they turned out. but once is got better and my drawing became "nicer" I really started enjoying drawing

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:10:19 2017 No.3119373 >>3119359 I remind myself failing to improve means I'll never achieve my dreams and be stuck in a dead end job.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:14:08 2017 No.3119375

>>3119370
Find out the cause of why you're not willing to draw. Is it because you're stagnating in terms of skills/design? Is it because you haven't been given enough attention?

Sometimes when these two happens to me I lose my motivation, I normally regain my motivation when I suddenly gain an inspiration to create; and when those moments do happen they do so spontaneously.

For problem 1, I try to figure out what was wrong with my drawing and try to correct it, sometimes by asking advice/critique and at other times checking in the anatomy reference books (I personally use Goldfinger's book and online references for mistake checking).

Of course, the process isn't always pleasant but once it's done I feel the curse of frustration has been undone.

If I don't do it what happens is a stack of shitty, uncorrected drawing forms by itself, making me feel like crap.

I always remind myself of that, and that in order to avoid that happening, I've made a habit to always learn to correct my own drawings. Of course, I don't do it for every drawings I've made, especially not random doodles but mostly for the serious ones.

Doing this gives me gains and my motivation drops more slowly. Good luck!

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:22:17 2017 No.3119380
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first try in a long time, been doing studies tho
what do you guys think? would like comments on how i can better myself, but i guess i already now the answer.. fundamentals.. proportion especially

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:26:48 2017 No.3119386 >>3119375 Tnx bro, I'm currently loving drawing on my new ipad, so no worries. but I think >>3119359 should really take a look at that post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:30:16 2017 No.3119388 File: 29 KB, 572x960, pic7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119380 heres an updated version

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:38:23 2017 No.3119400 File: 108 KB, 968x903, draw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 11:44:54 2017 No.3119408 File: 152 KB, 925x694, draw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119400 i tried to do a face

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:01:32 2017 No.3119436 >>3119258 Lift your arm over your head and see how far your hand extends away from you.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:02:35 2017 No.3119437

>>3119367
Not him, but for me most of the time drawing feels like a chore because I hate almost everything I draw. It's disappointing, frustrating and embarrassing, and it can really drain any motivation I have if it goes on for too long. But on the occasion I actually draw something I'm proud of, even if it's just a fluke, it feels amazing. I'm just hoping that I can get past this shitty amateur phase and feel that more often than not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:05:48 2017 No.3119439 >>3119388 He's on fire but he doesn't seem to mind

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:05:55 2017 No.3119440 >>3119359 >How do you make yourself draw when you don't want to? The ability is called "discipline" and it's something you actually train. Motivation is a fluke. You need it for anything new and unexplored.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:07:12 2017 No.3119441 >>3119440 Wtf life isn't just fun all the time? Whatever dude

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:10:58 2017 No.3119445 File: 291 KB, 1240x1324, boring.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119250 Here is the next one, this stuff is so boring to paint. criticism appreciated

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:13:22 2017 No.3119446

>>3119445
I think you should be more thoughtful about picking colour. At first glance it looks way over saturated.
It is okay to guess the colour then colour pick your reference to see how close you are, we are just practicing, it isn't cheating or anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:13:50 2017 No.3119447 File: 97 KB, 640x570, MESLP20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119445 source

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 12:24:23 2017 No.3119453
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>>3119445
>this stuff is so boring to paint.
Maybe consider making larger, elaborate pieces instead of sticking five small objects together?
I enjoyed grinding out these charcoal drawings for hours in my intro to drawing class, tho that's just me

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:09:33 2017 No.3119497
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>>3119447
why would you do still life from photos? this is one of those instances where drawing from life really is better. get some random fruit and knick knacks from your house and paint that instead.

also, your painting clearly shows a massive lack of patience. those kinds of paintings take many hours, days, weeks even for elite artists. it's not just cell-shading a bottle and calling it done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:10:54 2017 No.3119499 File: 101 KB, 569x590, draw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I felt like adding more to this.

>>	NoseBro Thu Aug 31 13:12:21 2017 No.3119500 File: 1.68 MB, 2479x967, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119209

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:18:06 2017 No.3119507 >>3119500 leave /beg/

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:28:33 2017 No.3119515 >>3118990 you're the guy who draws the knife-ear pron right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:29:44 2017 No.3119516 >>3119499 looks good imo

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:32:34 2017 No.3119517 >>3119258 aww, he's got little babby arms :D

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:49:42 2017 No.3119526 File: 88 KB, 1238x1565, File_000-6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119346 >>3119436 >>3119517 arms to short?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:54:51 2017 No.3119532 File: 48 KB, 791x1000, File_000-6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119526

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 13:57:06 2017 No.3119534 File: 9 KB, 354x199, dfsgdfgk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119532 fucking kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 14:40:20 2017 No.3119553 >>3119507 not me

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 14:51:11 2017 No.3119567 File: 1.09 MB, 2560x1440, 20170830_191445.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Last time ill post this I promise lookin for crits specifically on anatomy. Sorry about no arms not done yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 14:58:10 2017 No.3119580 File: 133 KB, 310x499, Ryuk_DN_Coloured.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119567 Source

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 15:13:40 2017 No.3119597 File: 580 KB, 639x831, SHU_RY77yW.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can someone give me some advice how to abs, oblique and serratus better? i always draw whole muscle but i dont know how to make it looks good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 15:14:20 2017 No.3119598 File: 433 KB, 640x1136, 4cdff8d0d25b52795aa50e6dbc48fcb0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119597 ref

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 15:15:58 2017 No.3119600 >>3119597 Shade

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 15:18:13 2017 No.3119601 >>3119497 How the fuck do you be this good? >just draw anon >practice Cut the bull and tell me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 15:27:22 2017 No.3119609 >>3119517 Don't mock the dwarf. He's like us. He's beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 15:42:34 2017 No.3119616 >>3119515 yes, i posted in here on accident cause i thought it was the new style thread, oops

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 15:55:00 2017 No.3119620 >>3119580 Do you think we live under a rock. Also you should only be using photos or photorealistic art as reference. Or better yet, life.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 16:01:05 2017 No.3119627

>>3119445
Here is my last drawing for today, I went back to doing drawings with no reference again and it's so much more fun
Criticism is appreciated greatly
also how can I make it look like his skin is reflecting in The light of a fire / Oil lamps?
>>3119601
whoa I thought that was a photo

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 16:02:10 2017 No.3119628 >>3119601 Spend 40 hours on one drawing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 16:02:27 2017 No.3119630 File: 442 KB, 1240x1328, sketch of a character.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] forgot picture

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 16:07:32 2017 No.3119635 File: 363 KB, 1000x1000, Untitled_Artwork-8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] where did I go wrong... >>3119258 ^lastwork

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 16:11:42 2017 No.3119637 >>3119635 I think the blood tank at the back looks a bit off but looks cool though

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 16:18:08 2017 No.3119647 >>3119620 I get it but this was fun and ive been doing portraits every single time and I wanted to change it up. All work no play and all that thank you though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 16:39:51 2017 No.3119665 File: 69 KB, 408x557, asiank.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey its legs and boobs in focus again, what a surprise

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>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 17:07:03 2017 No.3119683 >>3119270 Sheeit, that's fucking nice

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 17:07:14 2017 No.3119684

>>3119601
photo studies, life studies, fundamental learning books, and applying what you learned from your studies by drawing from imagination. do this for many hours (at least 3+ bare fucking minimum) everyday, for about 3-6 years, depending how many hours you choose to do.

that's it. that's how you achieve that. just remember, in your life you've probably done maybe 200 serious drawings, out of those probably 10 serious observational studies. while that artist probably did 5,000 serious drawings, and 1,000 observational studies. that's the only difference between you. fucking draw. a lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 17:15:51 2017 No.3119693 File: 853 KB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I prevent chicken scratching and how do I improve my lines?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 17:42:33 2017 No.3119701 >>3119497 Holy shit this is a painting. This blows my fucking mind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:13:41 2017 No.3119729 File: 142 KB, 350x546, asian k 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119665 more

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:16:39 2017 No.3119735 >>3119729 Blog?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:19:45 2017 No.3119738 >>3119735 >Blog? -blush- https://www.tumblr.com/blog/tiredfallingcat

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:24:02 2017 No.3119743 File: 90 KB, 678x628, animoo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3118982 study from h-gals arm looks bad crit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:40:14 2017 No.3119757 >>3119729 dude get control of your colors. you cant just smash blue all over. only in the shadows or from light sources.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:40:35 2017 No.3119758 File: 446 KB, 1920x1200, protonmail_request_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] porn thread is too slow. feedback welcome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:41:51 2017 No.3119760 >>3119758 w-what is is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:43:04 2017 No.3119762 File: 176 KB, 397x588, asian k 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119729 final pic before sleep

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:43:19 2017 No.3119763 File: 309 KB, 1920x1080, Reisen Touhou Art.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there anything I could Improve upon my piece

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:45:59 2017 No.3119764 >>3119763 How do I get as good as you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:49:53 2017 No.3119772 >>3119743 Chicken scratching. Study parts and study gesture and construction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:49:54 2017 No.3119773 File: 89 KB, 1984x636, Protonmail-tan_v2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119758 this but being fucked by a unicorn. Is it hard to read?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:50:56 2017 No.3119774 >>3119773 ups, meant to >>3119760

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:52:17 2017 No.3119775 >>3119693 think about your line before you make it. ghost. practice drawing with your elbow.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 18:58:15 2017 No.3119780
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>>3119763
Your painting is dead. What time of day is it suppose to be? It looks like you made a new layer at 10% opacity and smeared black all over the shadow side of that building. Saturate your colors. Those light sources in the windows need to be really bright. Foreground needs more contrast. Think there is too much atmospheric perspective, it gets foggy really quick. Study how light works from cityscape photographs and hudson river school paintings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 19:03:23 2017 No.3119782 File: 431 KB, 1210x855, fgsghgh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any advice??

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 19:05:48 2017 No.3119783 File: 3.28 MB, 3541x5016, josie rizal v2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119782 Also here's something I colored months ago. Adding color really seems to fuck up my art more, not sure what I need to change.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 19:16:10 2017 No.3119789 File: 806 KB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119775 This is what I got after trying out some lines, shapes, and a couple mannequins with my elbow

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 19:45:41 2017 No.3119801 File: 399 KB, 2370x1277, pursepecktea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I winning at perspective yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 19:56:42 2017 No.3119810 >>3119762 >>3119763 >>3119782 >>3119783 >any advice You can start off by getting the fuck out of here you smurfs. Anyway, josie's colors are generic da fanart tier. Color her with values and form like mr boobs and ass above you

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 19:57:33 2017 No.3119812

>>3119373
There are an endless number of jobs that aren't "dead end", that aren't creative jobs. If you have to force yourself to draw in the early stages, you're not going to make it. Art is a calling, it's something people sacrifice other things in life, to be able to do it. Any decent artist I've ever met never had to force themselves to draw - they drew all the time, without even thinking about it, loved it, and did it every opportunity they could.
If you're using art as a means to an end, ie. "get a job", I would HIGHLY suggest you find something else as a career. Something you actually LIKE doing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 19:58:43 2017 No.3119813 File: 67 KB, 1336x577, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119801 Just noticed why the tv cabinet looked so fucked

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:00:15 2017 No.3119816 >>3119758 is that genji being fucked by a horse

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:00:30 2017 No.3119817 >>3119763 Do another level of detail and polish. It's rather loose, you could tweak your contrasts, and refine your textures, edges, and colors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:01:36 2017 No.3119819 >>3119782 Develop some more line confidence. This is a good foundation to do a finished, refined drawing on top of.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:20:56 2017 No.3119836

>>3119810
Thanks for the advice, I'll take a look for some value/form tutorials. Now that you mentioned it I'm starting to see where I went wrong, especially with the shading.

>>3119819
Thank you, I'll try out some exercises for that. I always end up guessing which lines to draw over for the final image, so having a cleaner sketch would definitely help with that.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:21:36 2017 No.3119838
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I worked on my midtones more this time.
I think that my problem was that I was just finding areas of extreme darkness and light and then blending them together, while forgetting about inbeetwen values.
Tell me if it's any better than my previous studies.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:21:43 2017 No.3119839

>>3119783
Get out of the beginner thread, but since you're here.

It's definitely a good drawing but the color looks pretty flat and unsure. I think you need to push your values more. Darker shading, brighter highlights. Maybe consider touching up the line work as well. More variety of thickness.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:44:45 2017 No.3119862

>>3119838
They're still a little off - if you squint your eyes and look at them, so they're blurry, you can see areas where you're using the same values, especially the middle image - there's a lot of contrast missing in yours. You need to try working tighter, too - you're getting in the ballpark for some of the values, but because the paintings are so loose, you're losing volume and shape. I think you're on the right track, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:51:19 2017 No.3119868 File: 76 KB, 1600x900, carlos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:57:07 2017 No.3119878 File: 878 KB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I improve on drawing the mannequin, and how can I have cleaner lines?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 20:58:06 2017 No.3119880 >>3119878 Draw full figures. Think before you draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 21:10:05 2017 No.3119893 File: 3.09 MB, 2450x3265, shut up (1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What am I doing right and what am I doing wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 21:51:45 2017 No.3119919 >>3119880 That sounds a bit vague, could you please be more specific?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 22:00:40 2017 No.3119924 >>3118990 I think about a dozen different people have told you a human-sized brain would not fit inside that cranium. You draw the same faces over and over again. Are you trying to improve?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 22:27:33 2017 No.3119937 File: 37 KB, 293x365, loomis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is it good to trace loomis to feel the construction? i want to build muscle memory for getting the angles right.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 22:37:42 2017 No.3119944
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>>3119937
What I do is I draw it first then when I'm down I will go back and overlay them and on my paper I will write in red ink where I went bad.

It doesn't answer your question but maybe you can consider doing that instead. I feel it is at least slightly better than tracing and probably easier to do going digital since you can just have the reference underneath and overlay on the fly.

Anonymous Thu Aug 31 22:44:20 2017 No.3119948
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keys to drawing exercise 1a and 1b
the shoes were the ones from the image in the book as i was to lazy to put on shoes but the hand was my own

(this is my first time drawing and i'm going by the guide in the sticky)

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 23:31:11 2017 No.3119968 >>3119948 stick to pencil and paper

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 31 23:50:46 2017 No.3119973 >>3119789 keep at it. work bigger and continue to practice drawing with your elbow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 00:41:00 2017 No.3119992 File: 78 KB, 1312x795, handstand022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 15 or 20 minute sketch

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 00:43:30 2017 No.3119994 File: 1.86 MB, 1920x1200, protonmail_request_2_2_001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119816 who >>3119758 >>3119773 I think I'm done Criticism welcomed and encouraged. rip me a new one

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 00:47:59 2017 No.3119996 File: 109 KB, 795x1312, handstand022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 15/20 minute sketch

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 00:48:36 2017 No.3119997 File: 82 KB, 500x918, 5576217921324fabbf740bed440b66ef.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119996 ref

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 00:59:29 2017 No.3120007 >>3119994 I can't really tell if it's a male or female; I'm guessing female from the ref, but the pic looks like a dude. I'm pretty bad, so I can't immediately point out whats wrong, but I think the hands, feet and legs are too masculine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 01:01:14 2017 No.3120009 >>3120007 It's also too restrictive of an angle. I would look at some similar poses on sankaku, gelbooru, or whatever. Good luck!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 01:08:34 2017 No.3120013 >>3119937 I'm not sure, but you should watch that Proko video on drawing the basic Loomy head. Also, turn on pressure detection with size; your lines look too hard. You can also turn pressure on with opacity, but it's up to you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 01:15:06 2017 No.3120015 >>3119994 Ah one more thing, the right foot seems to be focus of the pic, which I'm going to assume is wrong. All the colors behind the horse should be darker and more attention should be put on the party zone (with brighter colors or something i dunno)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 01:44:24 2017 No.3120042 File: 148 KB, 900x523, IMG_20170901_142822.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I see what I did wrong but I'm still kind of happy with this one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 02:06:29 2017 No.3120066 File: 113 KB, 620x877, Bridal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 02:06:46 2017 No.3120068 >>3120066 Blog?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 02:24:38 2017 No.3120082 File: 545 KB, 1600x971, penis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could I get some advice on how to improve at gestures? Here is where I'm at now. I posted some a few days ago as well and I still feel pretty lost

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 02:37:19 2017 No.3120090 >>3120082 vilppu aka loomis

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 02:38:33 2017 No.3120092
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Wanted to practice lines and coloring. I posted in a previous thread about a breakthrough with my lines and now I wanna show how I've gotten. What do you think of them and my coloring of it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 02:39:12 2017 No.3120093 File: 889 KB, 1007x1337, study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120092

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 03:01:56 2017 No.3120113 File: 73 KB, 834x800, goool.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 03:20:32 2017 No.3120126 File: 67 KB, 800x800, heare.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm in pain.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 04:15:56 2017 No.3120148 File: 1.13 MB, 1920x787, practice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying to focus more on head shapes than anything, but i fucked up the width + length for this one anyone know any good head reference sites?

>>	NoseBro Fri Sep 1 04:16:33 2017 No.3120149 >>3120148 you know thats someones child right?

>>	NoseBro Fri Sep 1 04:17:35 2017 No.3120151 >>3120093 black. not coal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 04:17:40 2017 No.3120152 >>3120148 L O O M I S

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 04:29:29 2017 No.3120155 >>3120151 what does that mean

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 04:31:46 2017 No.3120156 >>3120155 You made her too niggerish

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 04:32:43 2017 No.3120157 File: 680 KB, 906x918, 1491319840108.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 04:37:30 2017 No.3120160 >>3120148 I like it. It's cute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 05:29:07 2017 No.3120197 >>3120042 since it is wrong only be happy about it as an opportunity to learn from what you did wrong. At least that is my mindset.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 05:32:35 2017 No.3120200 >>3120042 btw I should add that that picture of all possible reference images is probably not the best to use for practicing linework. use an image that is so obscured by shadow leaves too much guesswork to someone learning anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 05:52:47 2017 No.3120225 >>3120160 Hydrocephalus isn't cute, it's tragic & ruins lives

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 06:01:22 2017 No.3120234 >>3120149 aren't we all? >>3120152 i-im trying, anon

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 06:17:43 2017 No.3120260
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Is tracing really that bad ?
I mean after analyzing the drawing you trace over it to feel the curves and get a better grasp of the thing, and THEN try to do a classic study followed by drawing from memory.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 06:31:29 2017 No.3120280 >>3120260 tracing wont help you feel the forms that built those curves.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 06:35:19 2017 No.3120282 Is it really that bad for me to try and draw heads a bunch instead of doing boring vases and things? I understand the value of doing that stuff but I don't really feel like drawing them usually and just draw what I feel like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 06:37:06 2017 No.3120283 >>3120282 you could learn how to use basic shapes and forms to build heads or whatever and you would still be learning the basics at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 06:38:36 2017 No.3120285 >>3120283 Does doing this with loomis construction and trying to draw the planes and things count? I do think I'm improving a lot since I started though and it's pretty much all I've been doing

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 06:41:45 2017 No.3120290 >>3120285 do fun with a pencil if you haven't that will help you out a lot before the planar type.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 07:50:39 2017 No.3120326 >>3119676 please respond

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 08:34:04 2017 No.3120341 File: 67 KB, 1000x1022, File_000-7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] legs to short? >>3120326 pretty sure most people who look in these threads are /beg/ them self and far below ur level.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 08:49:18 2017 No.3120349 File: 1.16 MB, 1920x787, practice2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120148 fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 08:58:27 2017 No.3120352 >>3120341 Not if it's supposed to be one of those silly looking Titans

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 09:12:39 2017 No.3120355
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Hey /beg/, how do I learn to see values. I notice a few mistakes, like I'm drawing the wrong contours, the hatching is a bit uneven and I still am a little chicken scratchy.

But, those are small potatoes compared to my lack of seeing the actual value and giving volume. I need a new method. Recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 09:14:17 2017 No.3120356 >>3120349 Anon, it's chicken scratchy as fuck. Focus on doing continues lines, in my opinion. Otherwise I'd say you drew it pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 09:19:01 2017 No.3120359 >>3120356 yeah, i really get peeved by that too. i'll get to work on that right away, thanks man

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 10:34:44 2017 No.3120386 >>3120341 Get a reference and copy it precisely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 10:53:21 2017 No.3120394 File: 75 KB, 413x710, 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Apart from the face does everything look like it's supposed to?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 11:09:54 2017 No.3120405 File: 677 KB, 644x858, SHU_gjB0O4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does anyone have some good vid or something about shading? cuz i dont think that im doing it right

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 11:12:04 2017 No.3120408 >>3120405 Do still lives and draw from reference

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 11:23:46 2017 No.3120416 >>3120394 If it's supposed to look like a trap playing with a kids bow (one of those with rubber strings), then yeah, more or less.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 11:32:32 2017 No.3120419 >>3120416 >trap How can you tell?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 11:52:35 2017 No.3120427 >>3120260 it already feels bad enough drawing from an example image (without tracing)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 11:53:18 2017 No.3120429 >>3120355 charcoal

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 11:56:19 2017 No.3120431 File: 70 KB, 700x850, DFv2MbMUAAAHgql.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120156 bruh

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 12:02:05 2017 No.3120433 >>3120419 He has male chest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 12:09:17 2017 No.3120436 >>3120280 >>3120427 Hey the image was just to get attention. I meant tracing in general may it be real life or other drawings, paintings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 12:27:41 2017 No.3120445 >>3119015 looks good to me

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 12:37:22 2017 No.3120449 >>3120431 damn need me a chick like this

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 12:41:46 2017 No.3120450 ive never spent more than 40 minutes on a single drawing

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 12:55:44 2017 No.3120456 File: 314 KB, 742x1100, ktd_master_drawing_copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Projet 2 - A of Keys to Drawing: making a copy of a master drawing Top is Giorgio Morandi, bottom is Edgar Degas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:07:28 2017 No.3120465 >>3120436 I think they were talking about tracing in the general sense. Like, for example, tracing an ass doesn't help you understand the volume of it, or how it connects the leg and the back, or why it's bearing weight, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:14:32 2017 No.3120471 >>3120436 It's bad because you're not thinking about where the lines should go. You might as well be playing connect the dots.

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:19:13 2017 No.3120476
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Guys i want to start drawing and im going to need some motivation .

So i have a discord server, very comfy with few members, it doesnt have any specific topic but im willing to start a drawing channel.

Wether you're a beginner or not, we could all help each other out at improving.

If you want to be pary of this leave a (you).

>inb4 go to an existing ic discord

Any established serevr is either dead or way too full to make sense or care about newcomers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:33:57 2017 No.3120494 >>3120476 Not true, the sticky contributors discord is active and newcomers are welcome.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:36:17 2017 No.3120498 >>3120476 Post your work

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:37:17 2017 No.3120499 >>3120450 You should try it. Builds patience.

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:40:37 2017 No.3120503

>>3120498
My work is mostly doodles that i throw away and i have an old drawing book from when i used to take lessons that i threw away.
But im thinking about going relatively pro and even maybe buy a graphic tablet.
Im thinking of this as motivation to kickstart this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:44:50 2017 No.3120507 >>3119676 crits pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:50:52 2017 No.3120508 File: 250 KB, 919x1162, sholder.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119627 next one, criticism please

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:51:33 2017 No.3120511 File: 196 KB, 900x1200, jgjhg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120508 source

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 13:54:40 2017 No.3120513 >>3120511 Tell me /beg/, if you did a study of this, how would people know it's a photograph and not from life? What would you do to make it not photograph like?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 14:03:23 2017 No.3120520 >>3120513 I dont exactly know what you mean but in photos there is blurs where its out of focus but drawing from life there isn't (I think)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 14:14:22 2017 No.3120529 >>3120341 Chest it way too big, as is the head. You need to spend some time learning basic proportions, and how to measure. Then, spend some time on the shoulder, how it's constructed, and the pelvic region. You keep making the same mistakes, each time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 14:18:16 2017 No.3120533 >>3120513 Eyes work differently from cameras. You can always tell when someone has copied a photo.

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 14:32:43 2017 No.3120545

>>3120513

Lens distortion, contrast, lack of detail and colour in shadows, depth of field, and various other camera effects.

Some obvious stuff is the blown out right foot and lack of light in the hair.

Only real way to deal with that is to be aware of the differences between a camera and your eyes, and to be trained well enough to compensate.

>>3120508

Your drawing is totally off, you need to be much more patient, take as long as it takes to get it right. There's a general lack of understanding of form and construction, and an unfamiliarity with the anatomy of the face.

I can see you're trying to tile some value steps in, but you don't understand the form well enough to properly represent the planes and you're filling in the blanks with your imagination, which doesn't work. Your jumps in value and choice of hue are way off too. She has a very smooth, complex lighting which can be very subtle and hard to design without an understanding of what you're trying to represent.

My advice to you is to work on basic drawing skills, study construction, get some practice by copying pictures out of stuff like Loomis and Bridgman. If you want to practice painting, try something beginner friendly. A simple, well-lit still life, with one hard light source is ideal, so you have well defined shadow shapes to copy. Like an apple or a vase or something. Paint some cubes and cylinders or whatnot too, you really need to understand basic 3D forms if you want to paint. Do mostly monochrome/greyscale stuff too. Value and edge are the key to painting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 14:58:21 2017 No.3120559 File: 33 KB, 618x618, 20170901_115526.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How are these?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:02:00 2017 No.3120562 why wont anyone crit my fucking post

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:19:07 2017 No.3120570 File: 499 KB, 2370x1277, room.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119801 progress. Is it irredeemably fucked yet in terms or perspective?

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:20:48 2017 No.3120572

>>3120562
You lack basic fundamentals for completing a sentence, moreover you forgot to start with a capital letter and not to mention your style of adding profanity is distasteful and not at all pleasant. Stop using abbreviations for words, instead of "crit" complete the word by using Critique and do not forget your punctuation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:24:48 2017 No.3120576 >>3120572 you missed a comma after "instead of "crit"" that signals the end of that clause

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:24:54 2017 No.3120577 >>3120572 imagine being this guy going through life

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:45:39 2017 No.3120597 >>3119676 2gud4me to crit

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:48:07 2017 No.3120599 >>3119763 bg is too blue imo, the rest of the photo is dark but then its bright at the back

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:49:34 2017 No.3120601 >>3119819 I don't get this line confidence, it's digital. It will be polish in the later stage. The only time I don't so chicken scratch is when I do architectural/design sketch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:50:57 2017 No.3120604 >>3120476 https://discord.gg/rjmNeq Well heres the address anyways. Whoever's interested us welcome.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:51:19 2017 No.3120606 >>3120066 cute

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:52:38 2017 No.3120607 >>3120431 chocolate orange liqueur

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 15:57:42 2017 No.3120613

>>3120601
Line confidence is drawing a line purposefully and carefully, so it doesn't have to be replaced later. You should leave chicken scratching behind as you progress, if you're still doing it, you're not progressing. But hey, if you want to waste time and effort every time you pick up a pencil, go for it. Just don't expect to bring that bad habit into a professional context.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:03:11 2017 No.3120621 >>3119015 Yeah! Just a little problem. The head might be a littlw bit too small for the body. I'd recommend you to scale it up and move it a little bit upwards too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:17:53 2017 No.3120643 File: 470 KB, 800x1200, asian k 5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm one with this one, tried to intensify the shadows and purple, plus fixing the face and adding hair details, though I mostly hate the hair

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:24:51 2017 No.3120646 >>3120621 alright, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:28:28 2017 No.3120652 >>3120643 Looks like a doll's head on a woman's body, very unnerving

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:28:37 2017 No.3120653 File: 827 KB, 1067x1011, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dont ever stop doing studies. i did for like three weeks and my eyes have regressed

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:31:52 2017 No.3120661 >>3119763 What is she looking at? What is so interesting that she leans forward?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:33:20 2017 No.3120664 >>3119839 Post your work

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:35:20 2017 No.3120667 >>3120653 i dont think you ever internalized anything if this is what you call regression. regress from what, exactly? I see a flawed thinking process, is all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:38:04 2017 No.3120671 >>3120653 also this is a "masterstudy." left is mine and right is a sargent painting

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 16:39:47 2017 No.3120676

>>3120667
im saying it just took me longer to get to this point in the painting, also while i was doing it i was fucking up a lot more and felt lost and fumbled around too much. I think it's also because i haven't painted something not-from-life before, but hopefully next study it will feel more natural again.

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 17:01:24 2017 No.3120696

>>3120676

What >>3120667 said...

You didn't apply what you've learn or you think that study is just meant to be 1:1 copy. It's not. Study is studying a certain part of the painting whether it's form, value, color, or style.

And then you apply that knowledge to your own work. I think what you've doing so far is just observation practice. You're not really doing any "studying".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 17:10:32 2017 No.3120700 >>3120431 NOW I'VE LOST IT

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 17:13:35 2017 No.3120702 File: 3.78 MB, 4160x3120, 20170901_170353.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a page of a few gestures i did as someone who wants to work in animation as a storyboard artist, how can i improve?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 17:14:33 2017 No.3120703 >>3120562 Answer this

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 17:24:07 2017 No.3120706 File: 34 KB, 886x499, 2s93otg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120700

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 17:26:10 2017 No.3120707 >>3120702 do a thousand more. Also pay more attention to rythm and proportion. You might want to do one or two slowly to really analyze the rythm and proportions or the figure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 17:27:13 2017 No.3120709 >>3120707 of*

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 18:48:47 2017 No.3120759 [DELETED]

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I need a bit of help with coloring in these steampunk characters, specifically with what base colors would look well together on each of these characters.

Any help is appreciated.

>>3119408
>>3119499
I like this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 18:57:03 2017 No.3120766 File: 1.03 MB, 640x1136, IMG_4438.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey, totally new here and want tips on how to make this glass look less of a mess... any advice is appreciated!

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 18:58:08 2017 No.3120767
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>Hey guys, /o/tist here.

Made this guy as a character for my Murican version of Initial-D I'm making
I know it's shit, I haven't drawn "manga" style in yrs, and I haven't drawn ppl in yrs, mostly draw graffiti, cartoon characters, and traditional tattoo flash, and fashion

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 18:59:55 2017 No.3120771 >>3120572 good shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 19:22:58 2017 No.3120785 >>3120767 Good. And?

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 19:27:30 2017 No.3120792
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>>3120785
Doesn't seem good to me, feels like I did something wrong

Also the MC will drive a Foxbody Mustang GT, that he got for cheap at a scrap yard, and fixes up and delivers pizza and races around his small town in around Colorado

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 20:21:46 2017 No.3120843 >>3120792 Well, you are rusty as fuck, it was to be expected. You have a lot of tiny mistakes, like the arms being too small, the pose being too stiff, the muscles not being where they are.....Next time use references, or practice more beforehand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 20:28:04 2017 No.3120851 How do I create fundamental forms? boxes are fine but I'm struggling with ellipses. Are they just circles confined on a plane? Does anyone have any tips? >the catalogue isn't fixed yet wtf 4chan

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 21:35:31 2017 No.3120886 File: 69 KB, 603x421, 1475582558358.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] retard tier imagination shit

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 22:08:07 2017 No.3120907

>>3119996
i like the foot, looks dope, but one important thing: your guy would fall forward

straighten his chest area more and bring his butt out a little bit to balance it out.. his right thigh is also too small, you can't see cause of the black undie but that top part of his leg connects with his waist.. feel up your own leg to see what im talking about, while in your drawing it seems as though it's heading towards his crotch, like you confused the top of his thigh for the inner right side of it..

bretty good for 15/20 min, better than I could do, but i'd like to see it finished

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 22:10:00 2017 No.3120909
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>>3119968
can't do that anon sorry

>>3119948
did the rest of chapter1 today spent 4 hours on them total, i noticed my shading is really retarded i hope i'm gonna learn proper shading somewhere in the guide soon

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 23:19:05 2017 No.3120957

>>3118982
Hey guys I just admitted to myself for being a retard, I want to know if you guys know any good art books on drawing people or topics related to the anatomy. And also how do I build goals for myself because I feel I've been doing the same damn thing for a long time on drawing

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 23:41:05 2017 No.3120995

>>3120909
i don't understand the circlejerk around starting with digital

your line quality is so pitying that it's embarassing, using a medium that's easier to hone your dexterity with will help you learn more efficiently compared to something you picked up a week ago. but it's your choice, make sure to read the sticky

Anonymous Fri Sep 1 23:52:09 2017 No.3121012

>>3120995
i don't know any circlejerk i just live in an environment where it's impossible to draw traditionally.

and what do you mean by using a medium i only just picked up? i have never drawn before and i have never drawn in my childhood either except for middle school forced "art"classes one hour once a week.

i have no fucking experience in traditional at all nor "digital" i don't use any fucking fancy tools for my "digital" work i don't ever press the undo button nor do i use any pen stabilizer i literally handle it as if i would draw "traditionally" so it literally doesn't make any fucking difference (i have a display tablet)

and i will never work "traditionally" ever in my life anyways i just want to create fart fetishes or something for commisions so i can make 100$ a month which is enough for me to survive

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 1 23:59:39 2017 No.3121019 >>3120851 Watch Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching. He teaches you about how to do forms and ellipses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 00:04:29 2017 No.3121021 >>3120092 need feedback please

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 02:40:21 2017 No.3121183

>>3120766
Stop using soft lead on pieces that have a high degree of detail, like reflections in glass. Try using a 1b and a 1s, to establish the value range, and use the harder lead for the details and delicate areas. Work on your edges. Work on your gradients. Glass is challenging because of it's smooth gradients and subtlties.

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 02:45:30 2017 No.3121189

>>3121183
Sorry, make that a 1b and 1h.

Using a 2b and a 4b is great for gesture work, or any kind of expressive work, like figure studies, but for realistic drawings, you want to use harder leads, and establish your range ahead of time, like using on pencil only, which will limit your values, or using two pencils, which are a couple steps away from each other, which expands your tonal range. You're not doing photorealism here, so your darkest value can be a grey, not an absolute black.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 02:46:37 2017 No.3121190 >>3121189 Mind posting an example done in the manner you explained?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 02:51:35 2017 No.3121197 >>3120767 study anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 02:51:51 2017 No.3121198 >>3121190 https://www.google.com/search?q=pencil+drawing+of+glass&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS727US728&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjm7s_v9IXWAhXpqVQKHXkgDekQ_AUICigB&biw=977&bih=902

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 02:53:45 2017 No.3121200 >>3120562 I showed you my art now answer me

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:08:10 2017 No.3121223 File: 187 KB, 1300x732, 2_08_17.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jesus, it's so hard to draw an actual ellipse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:11:08 2017 No.3121224 >>3121223 shouldn't the bottom circle of 4 match the top?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:23:40 2017 No.3121236 File: 41 KB, 415x524, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3121224 Oh yeah, i didn't see that. Is this better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:28:16 2017 No.3121239 >>3121236 yes, #2 is similarly inconsistent (raise the bottom corner)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:28:56 2017 No.3121240 >>3121239 although it could work depending on the perspective

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:29:45 2017 No.3121241 File: 28 KB, 540x720, tumblr_ovn638BMGH1wztc9uo1_540[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3120511

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:33:26 2017 No.3121243 anyone ever felt their eye socket on their eyebrow/cheek and get creeped out?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:57:20 2017 No.3121259 >>3121012 >it's impossible to draw traditionally. where

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:59:05 2017 No.3121263 >>3121259 Anon must live in India or something. No paper, but got a ton of technology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 04:08:22 2017 No.3121270 File: 56 KB, 316x202, crit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3119676

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 04:14:51 2017 No.3121274 >>3119676 >>3121270 does it look like your ref?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 04:28:37 2017 No.3121279 >>3121274 somewhat

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 04:32:37 2017 No.3121285 >>3121279 Post your work from imagination

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 04:34:15 2017 No.3121291 >>3119676 it looks good as line art it'll be a challenge bring in the values and shading

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 05:40:05 2017 No.3121343 File: 202 KB, 1920x787, head_help.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] need some help with the perspective of the head at an angle, lads. just can't seem to loomify this the one on the left is supposed to be looking up, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 05:52:25 2017 No.3121355 File: 441 KB, 532x802, SHU_6gm6A5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i think i understand how does it work now

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 06:37:39 2017 No.3121390

>>3119729
Your palette is too limited/ You have all cool colors, you need warms in there as well. Basic white skin tone is more peach than anything, you need warm oranges and yellows and pinks in the warm areas (highlights and lit areas). The colors you have are fine for the cool parts (shadows).

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 06:56:42 2017 No.3121411 File: 169 KB, 573x847, gestures.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] good gestures?

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 07:01:47 2017 No.3121415
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>>3121411
Nice dimensions to them but focus more on the rhythm. You'll find more forceful, elegant lines by slowing down your pencil and thinking before you put each one. Think of gestures less on a time crunch and more on a line crunch at first, you'll get more bang for your buck. These aren't bad for quick studies - you're moving towards capturing and framing the form - but with gestures movement is key. Let loose simplicity speak for itself on gestures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 08:11:14 2017 No.3121444 >>3121415 I'm doing Vilppu technique but i cant draw good rhythm of gesture. I always start from head, shoulders and lines in the middle, where spine is and then draw the same rhythm by sides and correct.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 08:19:10 2017 No.3121447 >>3119782 is that paz? teach me f-am

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 10:32:07 2017 No.3121569 File: 52 KB, 1000x1063, File_000-8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 10:35:21 2017 No.3121573 >>3121569 You're making the chin too elongated, which in turn makes it seem like the cranium is too small. I'd say look at some tutorials about head proportions.

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 10:40:15 2017 No.3121577
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Here's a cat.
Have been practicing cartooning for years, have just decided to start doing it seriously.
I still have to brush up on my Preston Blair exercises, but this is also my first digital art and I could use feedback on both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 10:47:27 2017 No.3121581 >>3121573 >had to google elongated and cranium. :( alright, got any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 10:48:43 2017 No.3121584 >>3121581 Read loomis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 10:54:00 2017 No.3121589 >>3119270 eyes to close

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 11:13:00 2017 No.3121604 When you look at a blank page, can you see what you want to draw at all? I can see colours but not shapes or lines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 11:21:50 2017 No.3121612 >>3121604 Nope. But making some squiggly lines and some circles helps me get started.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 11:42:00 2017 No.3121625 I can't get past Keys to Drawing. For some reason I stop after 3 or 4 chapters and can't do it. Life or something will interupt me for a day or 2 then I'll never do it again. Can I ever learn to draw?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 11:45:12 2017 No.3121628 File: 102 KB, 840x840, JPEG_20170902_114338~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw I suck at imagination heads

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:12:10 2017 No.3121649 >>3121625 You don't have a drawing problem. You have a discipline problem.

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:12:27 2017 No.3121650

Is there a point to reading literally any of those art books in the sticky? Pretty much all those books, from what I've skimmed, say "draw from real life" but rewritten a thousand different times. Psychobabble doesn't even begin to describe it.

What books actually have the stones to tell me how to draw correctly? As in going step by step how I should be drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:18:20 2017 No.3121657 >>3121650 do you want the book to describe line for line what you should draw or what. Keys to drawing has a lot of excellent lessons for how to see and draw what you see, and some others cover the construction (and therefore imagination) aspect.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:22:36 2017 No.3121661 >>3121650 What do you think drawing is? Drawing from nothing? Obviously it's going to tell you to draw from real life, you can't avoid it. Your imagination is still weak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:30:28 2017 No.3121671 >>3121649 How can I fix it?

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:30:55 2017 No.3121672

>>3121657
>>3121661
Yeah but I mean like "start with the head" level stuff. "Draw an outline first" "Try use thin lines for clothes" shit like that. These books at a glance are 300 pages of preachy "It's just a gift" bullshit. They keep going on that it's skill and then never actually start saying how to start that skill.

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:32:09 2017 No.3121674

>>3121671
not that anon but I have a serious discipline problem thanks to a lot of reasons
but I am slowly, but surely, fixing it by dedicating x amount of time a day, and each week increasing that amount of time.
some days I really don't wanna, just want to play video games all day or some shit, but I hammer it into my head every single day I need to DRAW.
write sticky notes, chuck em places, set a note on your phone saying "DRAW". make sure you don't forget.

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:38:20 2017 No.3121683

>>3121672
you didn't read hard enough then because lots of books in the sticky go exactly through that. Since keys to drawing is the one I have the most experience with, I can tell you for example that it has stuff like "start with the outer countour", or "focus on an area of the drawing that you want to emphasize". Of course, it varies because each book will focus on a different method of drawing, and mixing them will make you a more complete artist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:39:29 2017 No.3121685 >>3121683 I'm asking which ones go through that, I glanced through a few they it was all the same shit for the first 50 pages. Which ones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 12:41:16 2017 No.3121689 >>3121685 I'd say starting with keys to drawing is a very good approach.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 14:32:39 2017 No.3121770 File: 206 KB, 1455x933, draw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do i get good at drawing as fast as possible?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 14:34:10 2017 No.3121773 >>3121770 practice

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 14:44:57 2017 No.3121788 >>3121770 You already know the answer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 15:07:09 2017 No.3121810 >>3121770 you don't, just take your time doing the work and learning or you will regret it later talking from experience btw

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 15:18:05 2017 No.3121828 File: 49 KB, 634x687, draw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3121810 time is mana

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 15:22:05 2017 No.3121831 >>3121828 then go all out and burn out nigga i don't care lmoa

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 15:23:48 2017 No.3121832 >>3121770 Draw as fast as possible obviously

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 15:33:19 2017 No.3121835 >>3121770 Just figure out a process that works and slowly improve it as you learn more stuff.

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 15:47:08 2017 No.3121843
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Damn i got a flawless method for drawing faces and other thing. You just gotta connect the dots bro. even with a mouse this drawing looks pretty good
really makes you realise that drawing is all about your perception skills, your ability to see. you can do beutiful ms paint drawing with just the line tool if you are good at seeing relationships and measuring distance and angles

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 15:48:54 2017 No.3121845 >>3121843 >flawless method >literally a method from Keys to Drawing It's like people here don't even read the book. Much less use the techniques described.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 16:46:57 2017 No.3121891 I've asked numerous drawfags what they use to draw bodies, and they all say Vilppu. Is there any image guides to Vilppu or will I need to go through videos?

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 16:50:38 2017 No.3121895

>>3121685
You don't glance through them. You do studies from their plates. If you aren't seeing that make sense after a few pages, skim to later in the book and try from there. You're not getting anything from them because you think they're books where the words are what teach you.

Art texts are the opposite of other textbooks. Instead of the pictures being there to supplement the words the words supplement the pictures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 17:11:50 2017 No.3121911 >>3119400 -his head is tilted down to much, the reference looks at the viewver -the mustache isnt supposed to go off the face -ear seems to small -you added shading to the left side of his face even tho there is none in the reference

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 14:49:53 2017 No.3122945 File: 77 KB, 560x800, lil.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just started drawing a month ago i need help with shading and finding a method of shading that isnt cell shading

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 15:04:53 2017 No.3122966 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 19:47:54 2017 No.3123293 >>3122945 You need to keep focusing on propotions

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 21:09:42 2017 No.3123382 Any book recommendations on shading for beginners. Particularly one that goes over shading on the human form.

Anonymous Sun Sep 3 21:34:30 2017 No.3123401 [DELETED]

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What skill level do I need to be at to earn about $5000 in my first year?

Just want to see what I need to accomplish. I assume most of the money will come from small-time commissions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 22:18:21 2017 No.3123447 >>3123401 From observation it seems that you need to be better at rendering than anything else. Of course you still need to be decent in everything else. But above all else it appears to me that rendering is king.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 23:01:41 2017 No.3123505 circles are fucking impossible to draw

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 01:56:48 2017 No.3123692 >>3123505 stop trying to make them perfect, retard

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