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[Anonymous No.2776153]

How do you guys hold the pencil? What is the best grip? The tripod grip comes naturally to me, but the overhand grip offers more freedom of movement but I'm really clumsy with it. How much do you think it matters in the long run?

[Anonymous No.2776163]

I do this or overhand with pencils and brushes. Saves my wrist.

[Anonymous No.2776176]

>>2776163
Is it ok to trail the paper with your hand to give it support while you draw or should this be avoided?

[Anonymous No.2776208]

>>2776153
Can we discuss this?
That kind of grip is only appropriate if you're drawing on a large canvas propped on an easel. If you're drawing on paper laid down on a plane it's really uncomfortable.

The rule to save your wrist is to keep it as straight as possible AFAIK

[Anonymous No.2776243]

>>2776208
Should the pencil be the only thing that's touching the paper or can I support it by trailing my fingers on the paper.

[Anonymous No.2776246]

>>2776176

You should always have your hand touching the paper, or your shoulder will give out.

[Anonymous No.2776258]

>>2776243
I personally rest my hand over the paper but I use a glove (or a sheet of paper) to move better and not smudge.

The draw with your elbow thing isn't a meme, if you use your whole arm you're gonna make nicer lines. Also use light pencils, at least in my experience while those heavy drafting pencils feel nice.

Wrist position aside (for health) this is all in the realm of nitpicking though, in the end all that matters is practice. Don't draw in bed

[Anonymous No.2776259]

>not just using a pen and bypassing the meme grip

[Anonymous No.2776260]

>>2776258
>while those heavy drafting pencils feel nice
*they're pretty bad for freehand drawing

I accidentally a sentence

[Anonymous No.2776276]

>>2776208
>a large canvas
If that means any drawing larger than 10 cm, sure.
>a paper laid down on a plane
You really should be drawing on a tilted surface. Otherwise, good luck fighting with distortion and back strain every day, just because you're too lazy to get a piece of laminate board. No need for an easel.
On top of that, you really don't get to say what's better if you only know one grip. I learned both and I reach for the overhand grip 90% of the time, with all dry media, sometimes ink and from time to time even when writing.
It might feel uncomfortable for a couple of weeks until you've trained your scapular muscles for the more precise type of motion, but you really need to take that extra step if you want to move forward.

>>2776243
>>2776176
Feel the paper with your pinkie (tripod) or with the nail of your ring finger (overhand), so you always have a feedback on how close your hand is to the surface.

>>2776259
>neglecting pressure sensitivity and edge control in your practice

[Anonymous No.2776282]

>>2776276
>You really should be drawing on a tilted surface.
Yes of course, I just meant not upright. I usually mount my work on an easel so I use the overhand grip a lot, but I find it really awkward to use when I'm at the desk (which is something like 30° inclination)

[Anonymous No.2776283]

>>2776282
30°, what does that even mean?
The point is to have the surface perpendicular to your line of sight while maintaining good posture.

[Anonymous No.2776295]

>>2776283
I mean yeah it's perpendicular, but since I'm sitting at the desk it's going to be tilted at a lower angle than when it is propped up on a canvas.

[Anonymous No.2776297]