/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:25:03 2016 No.2666699 [Reply] [Original]

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.

AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead (also images shouldn't come out accidentally sideways with this method)

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit

>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Old Thread: >>2663585

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:28:23 2016 No.2666711 File: 75 KB, 402x600, 041968229bbb03dedfd13a9a80eb0779.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:37:15 2016 No.2666720 >>2666683 To me this picture looks totally fine! I'm now so fucking concerned about myself. Could someone please elaborate more what's wrong with the proportions?

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:38:51 2016 No.2666724

>>2666720
I'm not the artist just to clear it out but just curious and concerned. For example I can't see how the eyes are too far apart from each other and how can the guy know about the ear if it's not visible? I mean the picture isn't a exact copy of the photo (comparing atm) but I can't see the things the critic pointed out right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:50:39 2016 No.2666741 >>2666724 I'm that anon, sorry for any confusion. I was talking about your face, not the one I drew, lol..

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:52:32 2016 No.2666746

>>2666694
I'm the guy before that said you don't have good brush work.
It's more obvious now that I can see your work process that you do a lot of back and forth, so that the line direction is a little bit muddled.
From what I see in van gogh's work does is use his brush strokes to flesh out shapes so I would try avoid zipzag lines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:58:28 2016 No.2666755 >>2666741 Ahhh so you were the one who painted and you were critiquing the the guy who painted this: >>2666694 Somehow I saw it like the guy who painted >>2666694 was critiquing >>2666683 →

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:59:48 2016 No.2666758
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>>2666683
Be careful of your values. You are doing too much contrast and extreme values where it's not needed. For example, on the hair, the highlights are actually a middle grey but you put them almost white. Try to separate your lights and your shadows, then keep each of those sections relatively close value-wise within themselves. So in the shadows don't go jumping from dark shadow to bright reflected light--that difference in value is more subtle than you might expect.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 15:59:55 2016 No.2666759
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I still want to polish it some more, but what do you lads think

Is the brushing/shading inherently bad and should I actually search of better ways or can this be improved?
If so, what thoughts can you share that can aid me in improving? Thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:02:40 2016 No.2666764 File: 2.63 MB, 6984x5400, share2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666759 Second I did, very mediocre I guess, but I'm still trying to find and discover what works.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:03:00 2016 No.2666766

>>2666759
Post your ref. It looks like it is a very ambient lighting scenario so there needs to be very careful control of values and edges to show the form. Right now you are painting it with a hard brush and the strokes are all these small hard shapes or even lines. Try to use tones and larger masses rather than small details.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:04:19 2016 No.2666769 File: 646 KB, 2000x2272, 1465614242815.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666766

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:10:49 2016 No.2666779 >>2666766 >tones and larger masses Do you mean mostly for the hair? And use larger masses of brushes so it makes the details more uniform and more natural looking?

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:13:52 2016 No.2666784

>>2666779
Yeah like rather than trying to paint each strand of hair or eyelash instead try to paint what all those hairs added together looks like. Instead of painting lots of small brushstrokes over the face creating a weird texture try to get the main forms and planes of the head and face.

Anyways, for started you need to stop tracing and actually try to draw it yourself. Once you can copy the shapes learn to see the accurate values. Look at how bright your painting is compared to the reference image. Rather than start on white and moving darker, try starting with a middle grey and then creep towards the extremes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:16:11 2016 No.2666787 File: 119 KB, 832x668, 1336327602872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666784 >for started you need to stop tracing It's not traced, friend, but I'll take that as a compliment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:23:35 2016 No.2666798 Has anyone worked through Rapid Viz? It looks great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:28:47 2016 No.2666804 >>2666758 Ahh, that helps a lot. I'll fix those, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:32:06 2016 No.2666808 >>2666759 Other anons hit the nail on the head. You seem to be treating digital painting like colored pencil/graphite drawings; work from larger masses into smaller details instead of trying to get the details just right instantly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:34:44 2016 No.2666810 >>2666808 Yeah, this is exactly what I needed I will work on this and try to practice it in my next drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:46:35 2016 No.2666820 File: 141 KB, 1440x810, 4dabbbea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I haven't drawn for like three days straight I will NEVER be good

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:48:18 2016 No.2666822 >>2666820 Draw that annoying cute anime girl you keep avatarfagging with a couple of times to get started and while you're at it kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:48:20 2016 No.2666823 File: 82 KB, 446x451, 1444291312468.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666820 I hope you stay around, you retarded avatarfag. Your tears about how much you suck shit at drawing is what I use both as motivation and lube

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:51:11 2016 No.2666829 I don't know if I'm holding the pen wrong. But, my pigment liner only last for about 3 days and it gone. I'm drawing about 8-10 hours a day. I would hate to have to buy a pack a week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:53:57 2016 No.2666831 >>2666758 Not him but What's a good shading tool to blend those colors on photoshop? Perhaps there's a good video on how to do that on youtube that you know of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:54:10 2016 No.2666833 >>2666829 Don't you read your pen? They only last 18 hours without a cap aka when you're drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 16:59:20 2016 No.2666840 File: 21 KB, 441x396, 1471735150333.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666829 >8-10 hours a day

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:02:07 2016 No.2666843 Small question Why are artists so quick to accuse you of tracing by the way? I got accused so many times even though I didn't I honestly don't even feel like showing my stuff to people...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:04:04 2016 No.2666846 >>2666843 They're jealous that it's possible for someone else to be that accurate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:05:02 2016 No.2666849 >>2666820 i love you please dont give up ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:05:43 2016 No.2666850 >>2666833 You are not lying. What fucking jews. Thank god I'm not neet scum so could afford the $15 dollar a week on pens. >>2666840 I would draw 16 hours a day if I could. The only way to get good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:05:44 2016 No.2666851 >>2666820 I have never seen your work. Blog?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:07:14 2016 No.2666854 >>2666851 he doesn't draw he posts for attention and he got four fucking (You)s from it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:08:54 2016 No.2666856 >>2666704 this is racist >:(

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:14:03 2016 No.2666861 >>2666856 You're racist for thinking that that shit is racist, racist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:22:32 2016 No.2666869 File: 2.93 MB, 4128x2322, 20160905_231513.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666709 be harsh with me senpais.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:26:32 2016 No.2666876 >>2666869 Resize your images to be max 1000 pixels on the long side. Make sure it isn't posted sideways. Take better photos of your work. Don't draw on lined paper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:29:36 2016 No.2666878 >>2666851 I'm an absolute beginner there's no way i deserve a blog

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:31:30 2016 No.2666881 >>2666878 You really should make one! Seeing progress is the greatest motivator! Keep at it! Even if I can't see your work, I believe in you! We're all gonna make it!

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:32:41 2016 No.2666882
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>>2666876
Thanks for the tip, dudio. Photo quality is as good as it'll get, as I don't have a better camera on me right now. Also is there any reason why I'm not supposed to draw on lined paper?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:50:49 2016 No.2666900 >>2666878 >I'm an absolute beginner there's no way i deserve a blog How about a thread, then? It needn't even be about you, specifically- you could make it a thread for Absolute Beginners.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 17:51:35 2016 No.2666902 File: 173 KB, 754x872, asdfjkl;.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i'll post this here, too. is it ok

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 18:38:57 2016 No.2666984 >>2666900 Who started the beginner thread anyways?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 18:43:50 2016 No.2666998 File: 206 KB, 1083x1080, Cyborg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based on that one guy kill me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 18:47:39 2016 No.2667012 File: 193 KB, 826x864, 5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666902 never mind i finished the whole thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 19:12:46 2016 No.2667045 >>2666823 i must say initially i got mad at him but i've also turned it around like so >tfw stupid auitistic neets will forever be worse than me (despite being three of those myself)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 19:15:43 2016 No.2667046 File: 277 KB, 750x445, 9 5 16 Figure Study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Crits?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:27:18 2016 No.2667120 Is it better to study with lines or paint directly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:29:21 2016 No.2667122 is there any place where I can download each video from vilppu's course separately? I had the entire thing on my dead computer and my internet is too slow to download 17gb all over again

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:43:05 2016 No.2667136 File: 148 KB, 712x425, FireShot Screen Capture #150 - '_ic_ - Artwork_Critique - 4chan' - boards_4chan_org_i.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667046 shit m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:49:00 2016 No.2667145 >>2667046 Watch this or kill yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzDGO0LssEM

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:53:01 2016 No.2667152 >>2667122 >acquire torrent >select which file you want >start download

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:57:03 2016 No.2667154 File: 16 KB, 275x290, BNvwDCr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >doing drawabox >it's boring as fuck and putting me off drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:59:39 2016 No.2667159 >>2667154 drop it an draw what you like instead, then you'll make it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 20:59:40 2016 No.2667160 >>2667154 You should probably stop doing it then unless you really understand what it's for. Once I understood what drawabox was doing for me, it didn't put me off at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:02:21 2016 No.2667168 >>2667154 prepare to be ridiculed by /ic/ for not enjoying spending hours filling pages with straight lines

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:03:23 2016 No.2667171 >>2667154 Really? I'm the total opposite. My drawings put me off from drawing so I do drawabox because it's more fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:06:03 2016 No.2667176 File: 706 KB, 794x1018, Screen Shot 2016-09-05 at 3.16.46 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666758 Progress I kinda want to draw birbs flying out of her cleavage or some other deep shit so I won't just be copying a photo

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:10:47 2016 No.2667184 >>2667154 drawabox was fun until i ran out of lessons

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:21:00 2016 No.2667201 >>2666049 You're welcome. If you need to take macros, find a big lens from a car/motorbike headlight and hold it in front of the camera until you find the right spot for it to focus. I can snap objects a few millimeters in size with that compact camera.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:29:35 2016 No.2667215

>>2666869
Yup, racism is in the eyes of those who see it everywhere.

>>2666900
How to hold a pencil
Setting paper on a desk - complete guide
Sharpening 101
Intro to erasers

Neat.

>>2666981
I like your style Anon, unique.
How many trypophobic people has it triggered thus far?

>>2666984
And who makes the new threads, also.

>>2667154
The first lesson is boring as fuck, I agree.
But I learnt about the ghosting technique and using my whole arm to draw, and I've improved a lot.
Also I understood boxes in perspective... hopefully I will have to draw boxes sooner or later.
I'm looking forward to the next lessons, they look much more interesting, so I'll hold onto it for the last few exercises.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:30:31 2016 No.2667217
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Decided to learn to draw not too long ago, apologies, I don't have enough money for a scanner, so I just snapped it with my phone. Right now I'm doing absolutely terrible, my shading barely looks like it's a part of the thing it's trying to shade, and making the shapes non-flat is hard. But hey, I've at least progressed passed the way I did doodle....some.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:33:25 2016 No.2667225 >>2667217 You could use some drawabox. Keep at it though, I like the progress.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:38:15 2016 No.2667235 >>2667225 I've heard a few mentions of that here, thanks for the suggestion. Checking it out, it seems nice enough, exercise based learning fits me great, so I'll try some of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 21:48:52 2016 No.2667253 File: 79 KB, 1000x707, edit1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is what I've been working on. There's a few things that seem off but i'm not sure what.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:27:24 2016 No.2667302

What are some good tutorials/books on learning perspective and constructing bodies

I was able to get through loomis head construction easily but the jump from stick figures to actual bodies with little to no explanation really fucked me up and made me spend days drawing proportionally inaccurate figures, especially on how hands relate to the body

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:36:45 2016 No.2667315 >>2667302 Just keep trying. It's not the material, don't worry. It's more of a physical process than theory. Draw more and you'll eventually get it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:37:36 2016 No.2667316 i'm assuming it's normal to spend an hour on a head only to have it look wonky and awful in every way?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:38:18 2016 No.2667317 >>2667316 It's normal for beginners to spend much more time than a person who's good at it, yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:42:58 2016 No.2667327 >>2667253 I instantly noticed the hip, it's more flat and slanted in the ref.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:44:46 2016 No.2667329 >>2667253 The hair looks like a blanket, it's like shes a lewd nun or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:48:47 2016 No.2667337 Don't fucking give advice when you're a beginner yourself Fucking jesus

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:50:08 2016 No.2667339 File: 56 KB, 380x621, damn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667315 How long does that honestly take I have 2 pages of trash like this and it's killing my motivation to keep going

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:53:04 2016 No.2667344 >>2667337 you don't have to be a professional to see when something looks wrong also theres a bunch of people here who think they're still shit despite not being beginners

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:54:05 2016 No.2667348 >>2667339 Use boxes and cylinders for now imo

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:54:48 2016 No.2667350

>>2667339
I couldn't give you an honest answer. At least a week, if it could be mastered in a day, everyone could do it. Just take it one step at a time and you'll get better with each iteration. A good example to see how far you are is, think about whether you've done something a hundred times yet. If you haven't then you haven't really done it long enough yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 22:56:40 2016 No.2667352 >>2667337 LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:02:36 2016 No.2667356 >>2667302 figure drawing design and invention - michael hampton

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:04:24 2016 No.2667361 >>2667356 Isn't that the book that gives people nightmares?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:06:59 2016 No.2667367 >>2667316 For a beginner sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:07:39 2016 No.2667368 >>2667361 why would it give people nightmares? it's a good book and the cgma videos that go with it are good too if you can find them.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:11:17 2016 No.2667374

Michael Hampton's Figure drawing design and invention is in my opinion a very good introduction to figure drawing, however it's probobly unuseable until you already have a semi competent understanding of form and perspective

If I would grind still lifes for a week or 4 before even worrying about drawing something as stupidly complex as a person. It will develop you form perspective and ability to draw what you want to.

https://mangodrawingsatuni.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:12:19 2016 No.2667379 >>2667339 4u >>2667374

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:12:20 2016 No.2667381 >>2667374 Grind still lifes for a month, alright. I can do that. So that's like chairs and shit right? Cars probably? Day to day objects?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:15:38 2016 No.2667388 >>2667368 There's cgma videos that come along with them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:17:10 2016 No.2667393 >>2667388 there's an associated cgma course called "analytical figure drawing" which michael hampton used to lecture, you can find the videos online

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:19:42 2016 No.2667403 >>2667381 Dynamic Sketching brah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:23:29 2016 No.2667407 >>2667403 Oh, really? That's easier than humans? Interesting.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:23:49 2016 No.2667408
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>>2667374
>>2667379
Thanks,I'm practicing it right now
I feel like I understand the basics of form and perspective in theory but just the practice of it is what kills me so I think this is actually perfect for me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:24:46 2016 No.2667409 How do I know when I have a good understanding of form?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:25:24 2016 No.2667410 >>2667408 That's an interesting way of saving files.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:29:32 2016 No.2667417

>Check the sticky
>"Do you draw like this? You're not that good"

Nigga I can't draw a stick figure half well and you're bringing in what's art in comparison

I feel like there is some barrier to enty in art where everyone has this prior knowledge and experience that I lack.

Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:32:44 2016 No.2667419

>>2667417
There isn't, It's all imaginary. Made up. You think everyone is ahead of you, but that's only because people never show how far behind they are. It doesn't matter where other people are as long as you improve anyways. I don't even really compare unless I'm studying something. It's pointless when progression is a long term process.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:43:10 2016 No.2667429 File: 49 KB, 800x1035, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I realize this is sloppy (first attempt at rendering in digital) can someone give me any pointers? I'm going through ctrl paint atm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:44:23 2016 No.2667430 >>2666882 The lined paper obscures things and gives off the whole 'schoolgirl doodling her crush's name in her homework' vibe which is rather unprofessional.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:46:36 2016 No.2667433 >>2667429 Use a harder brush

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:47:47 2016 No.2667434 File: 307 KB, 1024x616, 20160906_054003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] finally finished it c:

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:49:30 2016 No.2667440 >>2667434 and made those one. My phone is too poor to folow what some anon said with the image quality, sorry. Currently copying some pencil masters (do you think it's okay to do that ?)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:50:04 2016 No.2667441 File: 168 KB, 555x922, 20160906_053716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667440 >>2667434 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:51:35 2016 No.2667445 >>2667434 I'm not really sure what I'm looking at, but it's pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:57:07 2016 No.2667452 File: 347 KB, 1332x801, 20160906_055325.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667445 Thanks, have a tree of mine as a token of gratitude !

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 5 23:59:55 2016 No.2667454 >>2667452 Is this all done with pen? I kind of enjoy it really.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:06:34 2016 No.2667456 File: 652 KB, 2000x2000, q3 p3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] day 3, trying to wrap my head around gesture and some faces from ref because I enjoy that

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:11:07 2016 No.2667461 >>2667456 Damn, your observational skills are amazing. How long have you been drawing or at least just purely observational drawing?

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:15:01 2016 No.2667465

>>2667461
90% of my art practice during high school before trying to actually learn the fundies like I am now was drawing heads from ref because it was what I was able to do mildly well and it became my comfy zone. That and still lifes. And you wouldn't say that if you saw the refs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:20:20 2016 No.2667477 File: 164 KB, 1000x600, not gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Watched Vilppu's 1.5 hour Gesture video tonight and I understand what he is saying and drawing but I can't get it on paper. I can't feel the flow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:23:20 2016 No.2667480 >>2667477 Pretty sure it comes with practice. I think line economy and understanding which parts of the pose are the most essential to it's "essence" are the things you're trying to figure out while grinding gesture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:24:57 2016 No.2667482 >>2667433 Always makes my rendering look sloppy, line over line. Not smooth. Maybe that's a brush setting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:26:44 2016 No.2667486 >>2667482 Your rendering is already super sloppy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:36:21 2016 No.2667491 >>2667454 yeah all pen, it's a tree i drew with my head turned face to the sky, thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:38:23 2016 No.2667494 >>2667491 It's amazing that I can feel some type of mood and emotion from just that drawing. It might also be because of whatever lighting you have, but it adds a nice touch to your work even if unintended.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:41:16 2016 No.2667496 >>2667494 Oh wow, even unintended i really appreciate the fact that you felt something watching my drawing. Really appreciate, you made my day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:55:30 2016 No.2667507 File: 60 KB, 532x613, Q60pLVZ[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666709 I know the head is completely off-angle. Where can I get material on foreshortening? Also general crits pls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 00:56:45 2016 No.2667509 >>2667507 His left leg is a mess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:00:24 2016 No.2667512 File: 63 KB, 554x643, EQUEhXc[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667509 God fucking dammit. It does look like a shrimp, As you can see I don't deal with foreshortening very well. Is this any better?

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:09:04 2016 No.2667521

>>2667512
Different anon - it's better and looks like an actual leg, but it doesn't look like the photo. You made the thigh too long.
His right leg is too short though, and his right arm should be longer to match that. The head is tilted wrong, but you know that already.
There are a lot of inconsistencies and it'll be hell trying to fix this one. Just know the next one will be a lot easier since you'll have experience comparing your drawing to the proportions in a photo.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:15:00 2016 No.2667527

>>2667521
Thanks, I didn't put as much effort into recreating the picture as I did into recreating the pose and it really show. But your critique does tell me that I should spend more time on the foundation, since that's good practice either way. Again, thank you very much!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:23:13 2016 No.2667540 File: 36 KB, 699x611, foreverinthebeginnerthread.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I transition from this thread to the alt/style thread?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:27:09 2016 No.2667543 >>2667527 >>2667521 Actually I remembered I can't do measurements for shit, tips?

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:36:59 2016 No.2667556
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Top - used sighting techniques from KtD

Bottom - used sighting techniques + Loomis construction from FwaP. Struggled with this one, especially with trying to discern simpler forms from the ref and getting the constructions to match what's in the ref.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:38:42 2016 No.2667557 >>2667374 >If I would grind still lifes for a week or 4 before even worrying about drawing something as stupidly complex as a person How do I still lifes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:39:37 2016 No.2667558 >>2667477 It's going to click. I was drawing shit like that until I eventually kept at it. What helped me was to keep taking into consideration aspects of gestures from multiple teachers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:42:49 2016 No.2667562 >>2667540 >"transitioning" into the alt thread pretend to be Kyle and draw really well rendered anime titties, or colorful little "quick doodles" of your favorite anime characters, alt-threaders love that shit, they'll beg for your blog like crazy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:46:44 2016 No.2667567 >>2667557 Dynamic Sketching 1

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 01:51:05 2016 No.2667570 >>2667567 Dynamic Sketching doesn't focus on still life...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:05:45 2016 No.2667583 >>2667327 >>2667329 Thanks I see the hip and the hair issues now, I'll fix those up before I render the rest

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:09:35 2016 No.2667588

>>2666850
You can draw 16 hours a day and still be shit at it. This board likes to equate time to progression, but that's not at all necessarily true. It depends on what you take away from the time you draw and if you actually get better.

You should also probably just use a fuckin bic unless you feel you really need $20 worth of microns a week.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:11:07 2016 No.2667589

>>2667588
>This board likes to equate time to progression
I like to equate time to progression, because the more physically invested I am, the more I feel like I have progressed. It's more of a mental game than anything, maybe? It can't really be ever figured out since I always work long hours and don't want to spend only 3 hours a day to draw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:11:34 2016 No.2667590 >>2667430 when you're learning, you're not a professional. It's an eyesore, but drawing is drawing and you can draw something amazing on lined paper

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:19:32 2016 No.2667593

>>2667589
It depends on you and how you learn things. For me it's like running vs interval training. You can run for half an hour at 6 mph and that's great, but your body gets accustomed to it, you don't burn many calories, etc. If you do interval training and really push yourself, it's like forcing yourself to think critically about what you want to learn out of your art and makes you aware of your strengths and weaknesses.

But I'm one of those evil "hobbyists" around here who sometimes gets an hour a day to work on art and will still end up being better than most here because I don't take it so seriously, haha

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:28:14 2016 No.2667602 >>2667593 there's no way you'll ever be better than me after i spend 10 hours drawing superimposed straight lines

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:29:11 2016 No.2667604 >>2667602 I will concede in my straight line drawing skills

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:49:37 2016 No.2667615 File: 840 KB, 994x928, monk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] help.

>>	Nose Bro Tue Sep 6 02:51:40 2016 No.2667620 >>2667556 nigga how long does his nose fucking look?

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 02:57:21 2016 No.2667627
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>tfw just got perspective made easy
>doing perspective is fun
>slowly losing my fear of making mistakes and having fun making attempts and seeing how it goes

we're all gonna make it friends

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 03:03:00 2016 No.2667631 >>2667627 >tfw working on perspective too but with Aguri's guide We'll make it!

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 03:33:12 2016 No.2667653

>>2667012
Don't be afraid to come out of the midtone. Occlusion shadows and highlights would really make this malfoy pop. For personal reference, in nearly every photo I've studied, the highlight of the eye is pure white or extremely close to it. In every photo there is always at least 1 pixel with a value of 0 (white) and 1 pixel with a value of 100 (black). usually the 0 is in the yes or sometimes it's a bright light or a reflective button, and the black is usually in the nostrils, pupils, corners of mouth, areas like that. If you don't use the entire value range for a portrait you'll get a muddy, clay look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 07:27:02 2016 No.2667758 My loomis'es look like mongoloids and I can't, for the love of my life, comprehend how eyes work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 07:35:09 2016 No.2667764 File: 191 KB, 1366x768, 1470593505870.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667758 Forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 07:44:19 2016 No.2667768 >>2667562 Nothing wrong with anime tiddies you faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 08:37:50 2016 No.2667813 >>2667764 your noses and mouths are bad too, you arent thinking in 3d. for the easiest way to learn how to draw eyes was to to stop drawing the eyeballs all together, and to draw the brow ridge, glabella, and depressions of the eye sockets first

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 09:29:59 2016 No.2667887 File: 68 KB, 1148x1374, devil frutish.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I best learn "good enough" anatomy, I intend to stylize the shit out of everything but don't have the time to go through loomis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 09:33:56 2016 No.2667890 >>2667887 >but don't have the time to go through loomis. Yes you do, if you had the time to discover such a niche place like /ic/ and lurk, you have the time to read and put something in a piece of paper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 09:57:36 2016 No.2667903 Hi /ic, does anyone have successful lifestyle advice to share? I'm a 20yo NEET seriously considering dedicating all my life to drawing What do you do when you're not drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 09:59:40 2016 No.2667905 >>2667903 >What do you do when you're not drawing? Hol on, are there other things?

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:04:15 2016 No.2667907

>>2666831
Use a hard round brush with pen pressure and the color picker to blend.

You can also use the smudge tool and mixer brush.

http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt1
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt2
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt3

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:05:26 2016 No.2667908 >>2667903 Normal subhumans pretty much eat and sleep, am I wrong?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:19:26 2016 No.2667915 >>2667903 Work out, the NEET lyfe will fuck your health up something fierce. Trust me, I was NEET for five years and got up to 26 percent body fat despite being jacked as fuck when I started.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:39:32 2016 No.2667924 File: 2.87 MB, 3276x2254, justfuckmyproportionsup.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel like im polishing a turd at this point, I have no idea how you're supposed to get the proportions perfect when referencing a photograph like this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:41:23 2016 No.2667925 File: 642 KB, 1507x1037, resize.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667924 forgot to resize

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:50:11 2016 No.2667929 File: 32 KB, 480x454, 1449317802116.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >day 3 of my journey >start session >a couple of minutes in, vision suddenly doubles It's nothing serious right? I'll still be able to make it, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:53:15 2016 No.2667933 >>2667929 You're just straining your eyes, rest them every hour while doing your wrist exercises.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 10:59:37 2016 No.2667934 >>2667924 >>2667925 Learn construction and read the sticky my dude

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 11:01:49 2016 No.2667936
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I decided to go back right to the beginning and run through the fundamentals because I am having a hard time creating the things I need to make.

Right now I'm failing contours in "Keys To Drawing".

I figure if I don't need a certain fundamental skill along the way, I'll just end up breezing through the book I'm reviewing and I'll just stick to a path of Dodson-Draw a Box-Loomis-Vilppu or whatever. I forgot the order.

Anyway. I'm 32 years old and I feel like I've failed my entire life. Can someone help me out?

The pictures I'm posting are of a webcomic character from the beginning of August to the end of the month. I studied a lot of construction, Proko, and Loomis. Hips still confuse me though. Badly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 11:31:07 2016 No.2667956 What do you lads think of Michael Hampton's Design and Invention? I'm thinking of switching to it after Loomis' heads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 11:43:25 2016 No.2667961 >>2667956 it's good, it's recommended in the sticky, read it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 11:56:29 2016 No.2667966 >>2667956 Its pretty good. Best explanation I've see for gesture

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 12:44:41 2016 No.2667994 How important is it to actually share your work with anyone in your opinion? I have recently just stopped posting any of my artwork and I don't feel any different. I mean these are all just studies.. throw-away's right so who cares?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 12:55:12 2016 No.2668000 File: 236 KB, 1000x902, ter1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any help with the form of the clothes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 12:58:34 2016 No.2668003 >>2667994 It's not important at all, people post here for advice on things they don't understand or to mark milestones. You don't have to do regular updates if you don't want too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 13:04:04 2016 No.2668006 >>2667934 Can you elaborate? Whats wrong with the construction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 13:07:36 2016 No.2668008 File: 1.14 MB, 870x1292, Screen Shot 2016-09-07 at 12.05.34 am.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Feel like i'm going about painting in a fundamentally wrong way, pls help

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 13:09:40 2016 No.2668009 >>2668003 I kind of meant in general, like showing others your art at all. I feel like your answer applies.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 13:26:58 2016 No.2668022

>>2668000

You working from a reference to compare the two or is this original?

Cause you have an unrealistically amount of folds going on. If it's from reference and I don't know what's up, then that's cool. Otherwise you folds are going to be more complex around the joints and a more scarce and large away from them.

Like, your folds are a lot like how you did her hair. The hair's fine, btw. Just you went pretty all-out there.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 13:36:35 2016 No.2668034

>>2668009
Posting your work helps to build a following, which isn't a bad thing to have.
it also lets you show off and receive praise, which boosts the ego and makes art more enjoyable.

Of course that last part only applies if you don't post on /ic/, which is famously not a hug box.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 13:39:35 2016 No.2668038 >>2668022 no reference, i have not much experience with the folds, maybe the line of the folds have to be more homogeneous, and less saturated from random lines. in the chest zone they looks really weird.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 13:54:12 2016 No.2668058 >>2668008 Looks like a normal block-in. At this stage you just need to clean it up. Get some cleaner and more precise shapes in important areas, and in other areas you can start to blend things together a bit more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 14:20:58 2016 No.2668080 >>2668058 ok thank you, i'll simplify it then blend.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 14:26:23 2016 No.2668088
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Its been a while since I last posted a pic. I grew a dick, bought some soft pencils and started practicing value instead of doing some light shading with a 2H.

Hopefully you can give me some more advice while I keep going at it.

Cheers /ic/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 14:35:03 2016 No.2668093 File: 327 KB, 1500x1016, not gestures 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667558 >>2667480 Did a few more after watching more videos. These are 2 minutes. I guess I'll keep at it for a few weeks and then compare.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 16:44:24 2016 No.2668188 File: 61 KB, 558x670, photo_2016-09-06_22-41-49.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2666700 Tips for doing the hair ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 16:47:07 2016 No.2668191 >>2668188 Shading is too messy or smeared. Try working from light to dark with the values.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 16:53:37 2016 No.2668200 >>2668191 thanks, i'll try

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 17:04:40 2016 No.2668221 File: 77 KB, 1440x810, 1459682977394-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] drawabox is far too hard

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 17:06:51 2016 No.2668223 Any online resources for pose/gesture drawing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 17:31:50 2016 No.2668253 >>2668221 No

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 17:42:32 2016 No.2668264

>>2667477
I was getting frustrated when i was doing this with his video, but i kept trying and trying, slowly understanding, and then i got that eureka moment and made huge leap in understanding. This shit just takes time. Watch his video, draw alng with him, then go and try on your own. Next day repeat, you don't have to watch whole thing just parts you think are crucial. Very helpful are gesture he does at hte end, try to copy every line he do, eventually you will understand enough to do them by yourself. I myself watched only this video many, many times, sometimes whole, sometimes jus parts of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 17:47:44 2016 No.2668268 >>2668221 you're gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 17:48:36 2016 No.2668270 >>2668268 *not

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 17:57:27 2016 No.2668281 >>2667567 can i use dynamic sketching 1 instead of draw a box?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:17:45 2016 No.2668302 File: 216 KB, 345x574, 1461919566995.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If I try really hard at Drawabox but still do disgustingly shamefully terribly bad, is it still worth my time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:18:36 2016 No.2668304 >>2668302 You'll suck at everything the first times you do it, cuteanon. Just keep at it and you'll be as successful as me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:19:17 2016 No.2668307 >>2668302 What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:21:45 2016 No.2668312 >>2668302 Draw a box will teach you the tools you need to draw, you actually have to use them by drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:28:52 2016 No.2668318 >>2667217 you can draw better cylinders than me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:30:40 2016 No.2668323 >>2667120 pls guys

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:32:16 2016 No.2668328 >>2667120 Both. You have to study both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:36:47 2016 No.2668334 >>2668312 >tfw always doing drawabox because don't know what to draw

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 18:43:06 2016 No.2668343 >>2666882 you really should focus on using less lines to draw, actually think before you put a line down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:21:40 2016 No.2668401 >>2668334 Just draw naked women, like everyone else here does. Use the texture and cylinder exercises to give them scaled dicks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:26:10 2016 No.2668410 >>2668401 I can't draw people, anon. Unless abstract is okay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:36:23 2016 No.2668420 >>2668410 You can draw people anon, just keep doing it until the result isn't poor looking. Start with gestures to get an understanding of the human body and motion/ form.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:39:30 2016 No.2668428 File: 122 KB, 640x1136, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Halp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:40:30 2016 No.2668430 File: 1001 KB, 800x1176, Screen Shot 2016-09-07 at 6.39.49 am.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] alright this is the lot

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:41:40 2016 No.2668433

>>2668088
I also got my pencils today, I had a 2H and an HB only.
I hope I can give some depth and more intense values to my drawings now, I even got a 12B wtf.
Can't wait to try them out.

As for your drawing, I'm a noob so it looks nice.
Maybe the tip of the nose is a bit weird, and doesn't seem to align with the mouth too well.
Got a ref?

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:51:12 2016 No.2668448
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>start off with some gestures
>want to try actually drawing something
>start with head
>going good
>just about to start on body
>family members come in and start saying I need to do X because they do Y
>they always do this when I'm in the middle of drawing during the day
>become ultra salty and lose all motivation and get frustrated

Fucking annoying as shit, there is a reason I lock my fucking door. Anyways enough ranting.

I can't seem to get my head around drawing the torso with an oval. Like it just does't click and I don't see it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 19:56:00 2016 No.2668453 >>2668448 Because it's not an oval. It's a sphere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 20:56:46 2016 No.2668522 File: 1.34 MB, 640x480, 1346998525043.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668453 b-but they always say draw an oval. I am so confused now

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:04:16 2016 No.2668532 >>2668522 Think of it in 3D instead of 2D, an oval is a 2D shape.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:08:45 2016 No.2668539 >>2668522 It's more like an egg. You might want to check outt Proko's robo bean and rib cage video.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:10:52 2016 No.2668541 File: 275 KB, 641x427, 02 - xFlllsZ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm fucking shite at making drawabox blobs looks 3D just bully me for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:11:38 2016 No.2668542 >>2668541 Keep at it anon! I believe in you! You can do it!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:12:49 2016 No.2668544 File: 315 KB, 633x425, 07 - EwVOCqg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668542

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:17:20 2016 No.2668548 Is it common to have headaches when learning perspective?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:21:53 2016 No.2668550 >>2668548 Yeah. Once you start seeing in 3d it gets a little easier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:26:39 2016 No.2668551 >>2666699 Is OP pic real exercises or just dicking around?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:28:32 2016 No.2668553 File: 105 KB, 283x302, 094095094.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw lazy eye >very little depth perception fuck

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:29:06 2016 No.2668554

>>2668541

Me too, dude. I can't fucking.. Well, I can do it, but I'm not convinced.

What I'm thinking might help is to, say, draw a pear or something in life and then add contours to it to learn how to get a real feel for the depth and form. Then making ones from imagination may turn out better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:31:37 2016 No.2668556 >tfw you've done drawabox exercises and feel sore in your shoulder Feels good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:33:05 2016 No.2668559 File: 666 KB, 1600x1200, pg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:33:43 2016 No.2668561 File: 47 KB, 1600x1600, boxes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:35:23 2016 No.2668564 File: 217 KB, 1600x1200, the hand and foot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] and this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:36:52 2016 No.2668565 >>2668564 Whoa, is this a tutorial, this seems interesting.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:40:24 2016 No.2668567
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I did an abstract painting on my leg, trying to explore how colors behave and their relationships to eachother.

I like how it turned out and am thinking about refining it and maybe making it into a watercolor type abstract tattoo someday. Any advice on how to start refining something like this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:40:38 2016 No.2668568 >>2668551 Some of them are Drawabox exercises. They really do help, even at the least as a warmup every day. Helped my circles and boxes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:42:47 2016 No.2668570 >>2668551 It's from dynamic sketching with Peter Han. There's texture studies, organic form practice, ellipse practice, and line practice in there. Why that anon decided to put them all on one page is above me.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:57:38 2016 No.2668589

i feel like im lacking direction. i practice the same shit every day and draw bad images. some days i make small improvements when i stumble across a good technique or method of thinking but i cant shake the feeling that im doing things wrong. its only natural to draw bad things when you are bad, by drawing more you get better. but is it not also true that practicing something badly will only make you better at doing it badly?

sometimes i make improvements but a lot of the time i dont. i feel like im lacking direction. if only i had a higher skilled version of myself to tell me exactly what to do.

i dont mean to be so self deprecating, i do draw good things sometimes and i do make improvements. i just cant help but think i have some holes in the way i look at things. its really not too large a problem and i only feel like this occasionally, its just now is one of those occasions.

guys, how do i get better?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:58:08 2016 No.2668590 File: 75 KB, 640x553, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some photo manipulatipn I was messing around with (robot 1/4)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:58:59 2016 No.2668594 File: 88 KB, 640x595, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668590 2/4 I am looking for critiques, if anyone wants to give. Thanks so much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:59:44 2016 No.2668595 >>2668589 You are getting better. As long as you know what's "perfect", you're probably striving for that and so you never can really do anything wrong unless you're trying to copy a bad example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 21:59:58 2016 No.2668596 File: 72 KB, 640x576, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668594 3/4

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 22:01:48 2016 No.2668599 perspective made easy was a very enjoyable break from grinding anatomy and heads are there any similar recommendations for enjoyable useful books?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 22:02:19 2016 No.2668601 >>2668595 i feel like i know there are better ways to practice but i dont know them. sometimes i improve like a rocket but sometimes its really slow, i dont know exactly and perfectly how to practice efficiently, i think thats what im worried about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 22:04:29 2016 No.2668604 File: 537 KB, 1600x1200, feet2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668565 yeah its a tutorial I made because someone was asking how to draw hands.

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 22:04:38 2016 No.2668606
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>>2668596
And here's the original photo.

I made them all just using instagram and other really basic/free apps on my phone, which I know is not awesome.

Is photoshop or another legitimate digital art program like it that worth the purchase if I want to make more things like this? I've just been fucking around on my phone so far and am thinking about trying to be more legit. So expensive though...

Anonymous Tue Sep 6 22:05:32 2016 No.2668608

>>2668601
You don't need to. Just keep at what you're doing. It's not wrong. It feels wrong, but we all feel that way. It's later when you get better, your confidence will build up and you'll realize what you need to do.

As well as with progress, it is like a rocket sometimes with long plateaus. It's weird like that. You go up in increments instead of steady progress. I guess you can say your brain just suddenly understands the information after a while and clicks so improvement is all jumpy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 22:09:33 2016 No.2668614 >>2668608 its frustrating, friend. but maybe im just complaining childishly. ill keep at it and see if this feeling changes. ty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 22:42:52 2016 No.2668649 File: 546 KB, 2000x2000, sept6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Didn't get to spend as much time drawing today as I would have liked, but it's something. Day 4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:12:26 2016 No.2668684 File: 423 KB, 1301x1297, Gesture+1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2667956 >>2667966

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:16:16 2016 No.2668692 >>2668684 >tfw it looks so much more easier than it is done

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:19:08 2016 No.2668700 File: 306 KB, 593x540, smug anime girl 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668692 It's just a couple wavy lines bro how hard can it be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:24:10 2016 No.2668709 >>2668700 Smug-chan, it's not just a couple wavy lines. It's a couple wavy lines placed in the most efficient way of conveying the form and releasing the energy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:40:27 2016 No.2668735 File: 99 KB, 685x740, z1263c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:41:45 2016 No.2668737 >>2668709 draw-a-box = ISIS guy just sayin

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:46:51 2016 No.2668738 File: 161 KB, 1280x1024, wolf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How am i doing guys ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:47:40 2016 No.2668739 >>2668738 Whoa, how long you been drawing? If you can do it, I can do it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:49:03 2016 No.2668741 >>2668739 like one week, my tablet got here this month

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:50:08 2016 No.2668744 >>2668741 >one week W-well, I guess you can do anything if you put the time in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:50:17 2016 No.2668745 File: 119 KB, 1280x1024, cat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668739 got here and i found a book called Keys of Drawing by Bert Dodson drew this shit first

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:52:02 2016 No.2668748 >>2668745 Is this off a reference? Either way, you have a surprisingly good hand for form.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:55:24 2016 No.2668750 File: 404 KB, 856x522, Sin título.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668748 kinda that, then started to improve with the tips the book has on it. I'd totally recommend it, search for it, Keys of Drawing By bert dodson

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 6 23:59:00 2016 No.2668756 File: 454 KB, 799x488, Sin título2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] heres more shit from delacroix mixed with some shit i like

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 00:04:16 2016 No.2668762 >>2668750 >>2668756 You're pretty inspirational to me now. Hope to see you around. I have the book on hand, but I've been working on another skillset lately.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 00:08:34 2016 No.2668766 >>2668762 Just follow the book and look for tutorials on youtube, If you get bored doing what the book says, leave it aside and draw something you like, and pick the book some time later!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 00:09:37 2016 No.2668768 >>2668766 side note: I draw like shit on real paper, maybe becouse i dont have good pencils :l

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 00:36:39 2016 No.2668808 File: 7 KB, 1033x530, z1262.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 00:40:53 2016 No.2668818 >>2668738 >>2668745 >>2668750 >>2668756 i refuse to believe you've only been drawing one week

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 00:48:56 2016 No.2668824 File: 77 KB, 849x509, Sin título3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668818 look at the creation date, man. Im not lying xd, just read books and have a lot of patience

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:01:34 2016 No.2668831 >>2668738 >>2668745 >>2668750

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:02:11 2016 No.2668832 File: 279 KB, 1671x1746, DSC_0144 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to draw bodies in perspective

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:02:26 2016 No.2668833 File: 20 KB, 480x479, final destination.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668831

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:02:35 2016 No.2668834 File: 1.78 MB, 4032x3024, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got lazy with the eyelashes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:08:46 2016 No.2668838 File: 230 KB, 540x431, boi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this young nigga is actually doing Loomis sh*t instead of just saying he does while doing absolutely nothing like the rest of us

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:13:36 2016 No.2668843 File: 9 KB, 250x246, 1466490847662.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668838 why are you censoring yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:36:23 2016 No.2668860 File: 2.51 MB, 286x258, laughing nigger-guy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668843 >he isn't aware of the ironically censoring yourself meme It's like it's 2015 all over again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:49:19 2016 No.2668869 File: 13 KB, 822x580, z1264c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 01:54:29 2016 No.2668871

>>2668824
The reason people are sounding so impressed is because they probably haven't determined the time they "truly" started drawing with the intent to get better. Looking at your one week display reminded me the one semester in art class where I managed to produce my first moderate level drawings

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:11:23 2016 No.2668878 File: 246 KB, 782x786, critic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Going for a cartoony look (I suck at Beanies and Hats)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:13:16 2016 No.2668880 >>2668878 I think you need to work on fundies a lot more before attempting cartoons

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:13:19 2016 No.2668881 File: 491 KB, 848x1733, 1472026148587.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668878

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:15:15 2016 No.2668882 >>2668881 This triggers me. Brings back bad memories of Loomis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:16:14 2016 No.2668883 >tfw you're never going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:16:26 2016 No.2668884 File: 496 KB, 800x619, loomis of the north star.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668882 are you mocking loomis-senpai?

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:17:23 2016 No.2668885

>>2668878
Sorry bud, but you're pretty bad all around. That hand you've drawn shows me that you don't quite know how to draw from observation yet, so to start with you'll need to study from a book (Keys to Drawing or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain for starters) to improve there and then move on to Fun With a Pencil. You can do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-sfG8BV8wU

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:17:52 2016 No.2668886 File: 256 KB, 1920x1080, sigh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:18:44 2016 No.2668887

>>2668884
Not even close. It's more like he was mocking me.
>try Fun with a Pencil
>Loomis tells you to do a sphere and put features on it
>Okay, easy enough
>Except it isn't
>Loomis just casually pulling out all different variations like I can even do it correct once

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:19:28 2016 No.2668888 What's the best way to study Michael Hamptons figure drawing design and invention, is it just to apply the techniques to your own drawings or is it like loomis where you have to draw whats shown on every page

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:21:04 2016 No.2668889 >>2668888 Do both? Like what kind weird ass question is that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:23:06 2016 No.2668891 File: 72 KB, 940x782, analytical_figure_drawing_homework.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2668888 nice digits, friend

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:23:21 2016 No.2668892 >>2668889 He dosen't state (hey draw this) like loomis, it's instead just a bunch of gesture drawings with some tips and tricks on the side

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:24:50 2016 No.2668893 >>2668891 >the course is only 8 weeks long I gotta step up my game or else I'll fall behind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:26:10 2016 No.2668895 >>2668893 he normally teaches it over 10 weeks, but shortened it for CGMA

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:27:49 2016 No.2668900 >>2668891 >100 Gesture Drawings for Week 1 Hah, I do that for warm up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:30:29 2016 No.2668903 >>2668895 Any before afters from the course takers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:36:42 2016 No.2668910 >>2668903 can't find any, but i'll make one when i take it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:38:56 2016 No.2668912 >>2668910 Cool, when will that be?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 02:42:27 2016 No.2668915 >>2668912 sometime next year, i suspect

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 04:07:26 2016 No.2668962 File: 238 KB, 1136x852, 3452.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] :/

>>	Nose Bro Wed Sep 7 04:20:56 2016 No.2668970 >>2668962 nice job bud

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 04:26:52 2016 No.2668973 >>2666981 horrifying

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 04:29:22 2016 No.2668974 >>2668268 >>2668270 Now I need an evangelion edit with loomis in it >You're (not) gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 05:07:41 2016 No.2668992 >>2668878 >cartoony look aka I don't know what I'm doing and reading books is for fags look

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 05:27:41 2016 No.2668998 >>2667417 Nope. Some of the books in the sticky are legit. I'd recommend Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain to demystify the process, followed by Keys to Drawing to build a fundamental base. From there, let interest guide you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 05:40:57 2016 No.2669001 Loomis/Proko/Vilppu aren't doing it for me, and I learn best by video anyway. So how do I go about learning how to draw people correctly? I have tons of anatomy books/etc but they seem to not be helping.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 05:42:32 2016 No.2669002 >>2668561 work on a higher resolution and lower your brush size

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 06:00:52 2016 No.2669011 >>2668553 I think I have lazy eye too. People have asked if I have it and I sometimes feel like my left eye is starting to go in different direction and I need to ''keep it in check''.. How can I know if it's affecting my depth perception?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 06:05:12 2016 No.2669015 >>2669011 Hey at least you can keep an eye on your drawing and one on the streets

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 06:07:36 2016 No.2669017 >>2668974 I had that idea a while ago but never knew the font the posters used.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 06:11:29 2016 No.2669019 >>2669015 lol. Doesn't seem hard to fix though, just play a pirate ~3hrs a day and do some exercises. Guess I have to just go get diagnosed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 06:50:37 2016 No.2669034 >>2668869 next level

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 08:27:58 2016 No.2669080 Lazy eye anon here, how can I check if my perception is fucked or not?

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 08:41:30 2016 No.2669084
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>>2669080
Nvm, found an internet test and according to it I need to go to see optrometrist. FUCK my life.

I have been depressed for a while and this drawing thing is the only thing that has given me hope. Of COURSE I have some bullshit condition that affects the only thing I'm into in this world. Fuck. My. Life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 09:56:29 2016 No.2669132 File: 225 KB, 900x1200, shitty drawing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to draw Mikey's Rebellious Slave. Pretty shit ain't it?

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 10:09:56 2016 No.2669140

>>2669132

On a technical level, yeah, it isn't good. But it's not all that bad for a beginner's observational drawing. That's a good direction you're going in.

There's a definite lack of anatomy knowledge or form going on. Those come with time and differing study anyway.

If you have negative feelings about your skills, you shouldn't. Counter productive. This is pretty much what you're going to be turning out. The idea is to see that what you made is flawed, find those flaws, and fix them in your next drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 10:14:46 2016 No.2669147 >>2669001 This is a weird question. Proko and Vilppu have videos. What exactly is your problem with drawing people? The anatomy books aren't going to help at all if you can't fundamentally draw to begin with.

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 10:50:38 2016 No.2669181
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>>2669140
Eh I just feel disappointed whenever I finish a drawing, knowing that there is much more to be improved and feel bad over small mistakes I don't notice. I should probably stop doing that.

Also here's another quickie I made right now. This time it's the Dying Slave.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 11:25:27 2016 No.2669211 >>2668088 The eye in the centre of her face has a subtly wrong angle. It's easy to pass over the first time but it keeps drawing you back to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 11:25:56 2016 No.2669212 >>2668962 Lines are a little sloppy but the form is good. The one on the right middle almost looks human; did you abort a child and are currently projecting?

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 11:27:21 2016 No.2669214

>>2668428
Tim Curry?

The eye on the right has some messed up eye shadow. You might have combined the eye lashes with some make-up / shadow to make one super shape. This makes it really confusing to look at. Try differentiating the shapes through values or something to give that eye more definition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 11:28:26 2016 No.2669215 >>2668553 Doesn't affect you drawing from a 2D screen man, don't worry about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 12:15:10 2016 No.2669239 hoooooooo makes wondeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 15:09:39 2016 No.2669473 Is it normal to feel overwhelmed? I signed up for classes and started looking at the Keys to Drawing and jeez, it feels like a bottomless pit of despair

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 15:20:32 2016 No.2669503 >>2669473 No anon, you don't understand. You have to become the despair, just looking won't do. How many hours did you practice today?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 15:23:45 2016 No.2669517 >>2669503 I've been trying to draw this upside down man for like an hour it feels like and I'm pretty frustrated, but that's nothing I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 15:25:35 2016 No.2669525 >>2669499 >>2669499 >>2669499 NEW THREAD >>2669499 >>2669499 >>2669499

Anonymous Wed Sep 7 23:51:55 2016 No.2670215

>>2668750
pretty okay shit desu.

but when trying to study from another's drawing, pay attention to the angle of the lines/shading. you can very clearly see how the marks on the right drawing were placed/imagine the hand movements involved, but you seem to be scribbling in any direction when you shade.

also work on your shape recognition, your kitty (while recognizable and pretty damn good from a layman's perspective) looks all wonky and stretched. draw from life more and practice replicating shapes a couple of times on your paper. a good way to do this is to draw/imagine a perpendicular "grid" on the reference, and sketch them lightly into your drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 7 23:56:10 2016 No.2670217 >>2670215 Thanks man!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 8 00:10:20 2016 No.2670234 >>2670215 >stretched just resized it on paint so it looks out of its shit, but maybe it looks a bit stretched at the end

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 8 01:03:58 2016 No.2670270 >>2668834 It shows. Broaden your horizons, stop drawing single eyes. It's incredibly boring and done by every artist who likes to think of it as proof that they're "good".

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 8 05:01:53 2016 No.2670449 >>2669147 What I mean is, Vilppus videos suck, and Proko is cringeworthy and not very helpful.

Anonymous Thu Sep 8 19:30:14 2016 No.2671369

>>2670449
you're probably not at the level where you can understand villpu's video's yet. I too still have a hard time understanding them. Just draw whatever you want for now and get better by simply drawing everyday. In time you will get at a level where you can begin to understand and appreciate his video's

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 9 07:13:25 2016 No.2672038 So I've been drawing for about a year and I need a really good book to start learning how to paint. Any suggestions my fellow /beg/s ?

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