Why is all feminist art based on vaginas?

[Anonymous No.2544143]

So i'm new to the art community so forgive my ignorance but every time i see the words feminist and art in the same sentence it is a sculpture or drawing or innuendo about the vagina. I really don't care because if i don't like it i dont look at it but it just seems that every feminist art piece is vagina-centric. Do they simply not have anything else to draw or are they too wrapped up in their own gender to think about anything else besides for Vagina.

[Anonymous No.2544145]

>>2544143
I am also including Periods and Uterus' among the items of vagina related content

[Anonymous No.2544148]

>>2544143
Examples

[Anonymous No.2544149]

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[Anonymous No.2544151]

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[Anonymous No.2544152]

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[Anonymous No.2544153]

>>2544143
/r/ing the "congratulations for doing what everybody else but with a vagina" pic

[Anonymous No.2544154]

>>2544152

[Anonymous No.2544157]

BECAUSE IT GETS THE CONVERSATION GOING ABOUT HOW EXACTLY A WOMAN'S REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS CONSTITUTE A THREAT TO A SOCIETY'S MORES AND HOW THAT REFLECTS BACK ON WHETHER OR NOT IT IS SHAMEFUL TO SEE A PUSSY WHERE NO PUSSY IS ACTUALLY SHOWN AND WHO SHOULD BE ASHAMED, IF AT ALL.

[Anonymous No.2544159]

>>2544157
Ok, I can understand that. But why so angry?

[Anonymous No.2544162]

>>2544143
Yes

[Anonymous No.2544169]

>>2544159
PEOPLE LIKE ME ENJOY TYPING IN CAPS. SINCE I AM LIKE THESE PEOPLE, I ENJOY TYPING IN CAPS AS WELL.
HAVE A NICE DAY.

[Anonymous No.2544172]

>>2544169
Ok, whatever floats your boat sir.

[Anonymous No.2544262]

>>2544157
Although I do have a Question. Although there is nothing extraordinary about the vagoo the question of why is the penis not treated the same way. it to is a threat to society but it is never quite put on the same pustule.

[Anonymous No.2544324]

>>2544143
>>2544148
>>2544149
>>2544150
>>2544152

Because the vagina is inherently powerless. It can be penetrated and cannot even try to force closed like an anus. It is easy to take, to hurt, to wound forever. Etc etc and all this can be done by a penis.

It needs penis to be useful because without it the vagina is a disgusting smelly hole that sinful blood falls from as punishment for womankinds stupidity.

Not that I believe that shit. But I'm sure it nags at the back of a lot of ugly jaded white girls minds that because they don't have the hottest twat they are worthless so they do dumb shit like this to empower themselves when in reality education in real college pathways and monetary success make them equals as men. Not this idiocy.

[Anonymous No.2544372]

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[Anonymous No.2544434]

>>2544372
thanks

[Anonymous No.2544503]

>>2544262
Depicting penises (although flaccid and often understated) has been perfectly acceptable for centuries, with some particularly prude eras being the exception. On the other hand, vaginas are virtually nonexistant in classical Western art.

Even fertility motives have been mostly about hips and tits, while the male fertility motif is the phallus.

I personally don't think vaginas are particularly offensive or anything the like, but if you look at the kind of reactions you still get these days to L'Origine du Monde, it does definitely seem like vaginas are still offensive to a lot of people. And this makes feminist art depicting vaginas actually very relevant. It poses the question "why can't the vagina be art?" and "Why is this part of the body more offensive than others?". While you may disagree with it being particularly artistic, and you have good reason to, it's definitely valid and relevant.

Please note, this post is talking strictly about Western art.

[Anonymous No.2544639]

>>2544503
The reason is that in the case of the penis, sexual arousal is clearly visible. You can show a flaccid penis in art, but an erect penis is considered porn. But in the case of the vulva, sexual arousal is not visibly obvious, so you can never be sure if the depiction is porn or not. For this reason it is generally not accepted.

[Anonymous No.2544810]

>>2544639
It's also based on the context of the maker. Of course homosexuality exists but with heterosexuality as the norm, a guy drawing another dude's flacid penis doesn't make it horny. It's understood the artist does it to observe nature and natural form. The viewer of a lot of art for most of the time was supposed to be male because women don't understand that shit and should be at home cooking and having babies.
Depicting a vulva would be understood as having both enraptured the person depicting it and would lure the viewer to lewd thoughts. Sexual arousal wasn't seen as something very good for quite a long time.

Today since we totally live with the idea that "men are visual creatures", it's strange when a guy would draw a visible vulva, we would be highly suspicious of his motivations, even if he would be able to mentally totally divorce his libido from his art, many people wouldn't believe him.

I think it casts an interesting light on the problem, how only women are supposed to be able to paint or draw a vagina properly.

[Anonymous No.2544815]

>>2544143
The "art" you mean in this case is "modern art" which is creatively bankrupt.

Hence, "feminist art" is also creatively bankrupt.

[Anonymous No.2544857]

>>2544815
Modern and contemporary art are a million times more creative than the centuries before it, what are you even talking about. I mean, I get it if people say that contemporary art doesn't require skill or whatever, but not being creative is fucking bullshit.

[Anonymous No.2545167]

If I were to use a vagina as subject matter, it would be to reframe or repurpose an inconvenient and painful source of monthly emotional inconsistently. Like eating something you don't like until you develop a taste for it. But for the most part it's prob just used for the shock value (because, as mentioned above, vaginas are still offensive to a lot of people), to attract attention towards a feminist agenda. Vagina propaganda.

[Anonymous No.2545187]

>>2544815
Yea I can respect that.

[Anonymous No.2545193]

why do men draw so many dicks? why do they use images of dicks for crude vandalism?

[Anonymous No.2545199]

>>2544857
t. Modern """""artist"""""

[Anonymous No.2545206]

>>2545193
Huh

[Anonymous No.2545211]

>>2545199
Nice modern reply.

[Anonymous No.2545213]

>>2544143
umm im sorry but you are being heavily mysoginistic.
Not all feminist art based on vagina. Some of us appreciate menstrual blood based art.

[Anonymous No.2545217]

>>2545193
>why do men draw so many dicks?
literally...WHAT.
Please quit autism.

[Anonymous No.2545238]

>>2544815
Yes anon
/thread

[Anonymous No.2545241]

Feminist art is shit.
Work is worth glorying in when it deserves it, not because of the sex of the artist.

[Anonymous No.2545281]

>>2544143
There's a lot of phallic imagery in artists by males too, I mean, really?

>http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/phallic-symbols-found-hidden-in-famous-pre-raphaelite-painting-isabella-by-john-everett-millais-8121958.html#gallery

>http://www.gastronomica.org/fruits-vegetables-sexual-metaphor-late-renaissance-rome/

>http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/food/hd_food.htm

Dicks are fucking everywhere in paintings done by, guess what? Men! Do men simply have nothing else to draw or are they too wrapped up in their own gender to think about anything else besides Penis?

Why aren't images of dicks given a particular name rather than just being referred as 'art.' Meanwhile anything with a vagina symbolism is referred to as 'feminist art'?

[Anonymous No.2545284]

>>2545217
explain.

[Anonymous No.2545285]

>>2545284
if men draw penises it's for comedy/shock value
nothing else

there is not supposed to be some deeper meaning or 'social commentary'
women think painting a vagina is making an artistic statement LOL

[Anonymous No.2545289]

>>2545285
explain why it's comedy.

[Anonymous No.2545292]

>>2545285
how is that any different though. like you can justify it however you want but dicks are everywhere too man. i would know, i fuckin like dick. there are just as many pompous beta males painting with their own feces and flailing around the floor as there women painting with menstrual blood. modern art a shit.

[Anonymous No.2545297]

>>2544143
Confirmation bias, everytime you see an image of a vagina thats associated with feminist art you think "this is dumb, this is what all feminist art is", yet when you see a vagina that is not feminist art or feminist art that is not a vagina you forget about it.
Georgia O'Keeffe never described her paintings as feminist, for example. And pic related is one of the best known pieces of feminist artwork, and is in fact not a vagina.

[Anonymous No.2545301]

>>2545297
>it's an installation

That's almost as vapid as O'Queef's vagina flowers by default.

[Anonymous No.2545304]

>>2545301
>completely missing the point
Only men could be so stuck up their own ass...

[Anonymous No.2545309]

>>2544324
>and cannot even try to force closed like an anus
You don't have any IRL experience with vaginas, huh?

[Anonymous No.2545387]

>>2545284
>explain.
>>2545289
>explain why it's comedy.
Im not explaining anything for another retarded vagina that feels butthurt after relaity crushes her pathethic little mind.

[Anonymous No.2545391]

>>2545387
>he's so pathetic he can't even spell it

[Anonymous No.2545394]

>>2545391
>she is do dumb she can't even imagine foreign people visiting 4chan
Finish that hamburger Tiffany.

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[Anonymous No.2545410]

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[Anonymous No.2545442]

>>2545387
>i'm not going to explain because le girls r dumb not because I'm wrong
Men are literally retarded dildo's

[Anonymous No.2545447]

>>2545289
Two common ingredients of comedy are the unexpected, and the boundaries of social acceptability.

Drawing a dick on the school whiteboard is both these things to teenaged kids. Drawing a dick on your passed out drunk friend's face is both these things to a college aged kid. Etc.

Drawing a pair of boobs is just about equally common for the same reasons, but usually also done by men. The reason women don't usually do this (and the reason the stereotype of women not being funny exists), is because they have no need to be.
Humour is a sign of intelligence and being social, because it requires an understanding of your environment to know what's unexpected and on the boundary of social acceptability in a funny way. That's why many women cite "humour" as one of the most important character traits in a potential partner.
Men rarely cite this. Men have other preferences in female partners, thus women don't have a need to be funny, and that's why they don't draw vaginas on things.

Does that explain it?

[Anonymous No.2545566]

>>2545285

Yeah, I don't know anything about modern art, but it bugs me how dicks are treated as funny but vag is treated as either unspeakable or sacred. Instead of killing that stigma by making vag nonthreatening and amusing and easy to talk about, feminists just go the other way and put it on a pedestal only to create another kind of discomfort.

But maybe it's not their fault. Are vaginas just inherently unfunny? Maybe. I mean, dicks flop around, they emote, they hurt when squeezed, you can work with that.
I guess boobs have a bit of that going for them, but they're still mostly only used for comedy through the lens of being something men want, so the comedy comes more from that reaction than from boobs themselves.

But then, pisstaking dicks also seems like a good feminist activity, because it takes away their power. It takes something that can be very threatening (rape etc) and exploits the fact that it's actually the most vulnerable and precious part of a man's body.
So maybe the thinking is that making vaginas humerous is an attack on female power.

idk I'm just bullshitting, but it's kinda interesting to think about.

[Anonymous No.2545570]

>>2545447

I drew dicks on things all the time as a teenager. I'm a woman and have known plenty of other women to do the same.
People don't draw vaginas because that's just seen as weird and perverted, while dicks are a comedy staple and fun for the whole family.

[Anonymous No.2545578]

>>2545570
That's why I said it's a stereotype. Not all women, etc.

[Anonymous No.2545589]

>>2545578

Yeah, I'm just saying, women who fuck around like that don't draw vaginas, they just draw dicks like everyone else. The female equivalent of drawing dicks isn't drawing vaginas, it's just drawing more dicks.

[Anonymous No.2545613]

>>2545442

>>why is this?
>>why is that?
>>why that is that?

yeah, 3 years old little girl trying to understand how world spin and we have to explain...

[Anonymous No.2545617]

>>2544143

Because women are self absorbed.
Mix in the kind of pretentiousness that is encouraged in art school and you get vagina art, the vag is just the visual representation of womanhood it's not very sophisticated stuff.

[Anonymous No.2545624]

>>2545217
Men draw penises everywhere. Notebooks, walls, bathroom stalls, drunk passed out people. Seriously, if you think men don't draw dicks all the time you are delusional.

[Anonymous No.2545625]

>>2545301
>Installations are not art.
Literally get off my art board.

[Anonymous No.2545632]

>>2545566
Good post, interesting thoughts.

>dicks are treated as funny but vag is treated as either unspeakable or sacred
>Are vaginas just inherently unfunny?
Isn't the act of featuring vaginas in art a way of making vaginas more socially acceptable? In order to be able to laugh about something harmlessly (like we can about penises flopping around, someone getting a football in their privates, unfortunate erections, etc.) we need to first eliminate the forbidden-ness of it by confronting people with it. As long as something is unacceptable, the only possible comedy is shock value. There is so much humour potential in vaginas: Queefs, stuff getting stuck, unfortunate periods, women getting a football in their privates, etc. But these things are only ever getting used for shock value or embarrassment.

Compare to homosexuality: Back in the olden days, you'd use that for shock value. Like in "Some Like it Hot" 's famous ending scene. It's so weird that you can't help but laugh. These days, we can have actual homosexual characters in media and jokes specifically about the gay lifestyle. Hell, we have Drag Race on TV.

>But then, pisstaking dicks also seems like a good feminist activity, because it takes away their power. It takes something that can be very threatening (rape etc) and exploits the fact that it's actually the most vulnerable and precious part of a man's body.
So maybe the thinking is that making vaginas humerous is an attack on female power.
To me it seems more like men base a lot of their self-esteem around their dicks while vaginas are seen as shameful or whatever. So it's more about making women feel comfortable with having one. While for men, taking them down a notch by making fun of it is bringing both on an equal baseline. (At least in theory.) Of course we need to be careful that men don't start being ashamed of their penises, but frankly it's not looking like that could ever happen.

[Anonymous No.2545671]

>>2545625
Well, an installation is not art.
Please tell me how on earth it could be.

[Anonymous No.2545673]

>>2545632
>Of course we need to be careful that men don't start being ashamed of their penises, but frankly it's not looking like that could ever happen.
Yep that just ain't gonna happen. Men associate their 'manliness' with their dicks. Slangs such as grow some balls and etc just shows how most men equate toughness=having penises. It just reinforces what a man's man is. ..Which is ironic considering that the testicles is the most fragile anatomy of a man's body.

[Anonymous No.2545684]

>>2545673
That just makes me feel bad for women for the whole "being a pussy" thing.

[Anonymous No.2545687]

>>2545625
>installations are art
>your board
choose one

[Anonymous No.2545691]

>>2545684
>being a pussy
Another irony considering that during childbirth, vaginas are able to withstand pain levels that could be fatally dangerous. Death from childbirth is unusually common.
In my opinion, "being a pussy" should actually be entirely opposite of its meaning today.

[Anonymous No.2545696]

>>2545673
>toughness=having penises
well, cut a child's balls and he will not produce the testosterone needed to develop manly features,so I wouldn't say that's far fetched

[Anonymous No.2545702]

>>2545673
>Which is ironic considering that the testicles is the most fragile anatomy of a man's body.
Meanwhile vaginas push out entire human beings, but being a pussy is a term of weakness.

[Anonymous No.2545707]

>>2545673
>the testicles is the most fragile anatomy of a man's body.
I would keep that stop for the eyes, or maybe the brain, but that one got a skill protecting him

[Anonymous No.2545708]

>>2545707
spot*

[Anonymous No.2545726]

muh gyna

[Anonymous No.2545837]

>>2545632
>Of course we need to be careful that men don't start being ashamed of their penises, but frankly it's not looking like that could ever happen.
Isn't this exactly what's happening for most people under average dick size?

[Anonymous No.2545855]

>>2545673

The phrase "having balls" is a reference to being masculine/confident, and testosterone (which aids strength and confidence) is produced in the testicles. So I'd say it's pretty spot on if anything.
Likewise, being a "pussy" is a reference to being feminine, which isn't associated with being strong since women are emotionally and physically less robust than men on average.

The expressions makes perfect sense if you have half a brain.

[Anonymous No.2545862]

>>2545632

>Of course we need to be careful that men don't start being ashamed of their penises, but frankly it's not looking like that could ever happen.

Except that their penis size is something that many men are ashamed of. So much in fact that there is a entire industry around growing your dick bigger with penis pills/pump/what not and there is even a huge internet community about a technique called "jelqing" where you use different manual methods that supposedly can make it bigger by a inch or two.

But as typical, when you think of males you think of the kind of men you are attracted to. I.e. confident chads with big dicks.

[Anonymous No.2545913]

>>2545632

That's a really good point. I guess if we went straight from vaginas being shameful to being comedic, the humour would seem very much at womens' expense rather than allowing women in on the fun.
Rather than going off on another extreme, as I initially felt, maybe this sort of celebratory art is just laying the ground work for a society where everyone's genitals can be funny and no one gets hurt.

I mean, it's already starting to turn. Broad City for example has plenty of jokes about vaginas being weed pockets, tampons being too small, wearing period-stained pants to avoid being frisked etc. and all of it feels just as casual and natural as any other joke, rather than simply "ooh, we're saying vagina and vaginas are gross, aren't you shocked!"