/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.2177348]

Progress thread?
Progress thread.
Be it meme progress or your own, post'em

[Anonymous No.2177368]

Get Cancer Op.
Go work on your fucking progress.

[Anonymous No.2177369]

>>2177348

[Anonymous No.2177382]

>>2177369
every fucking time

[Anonymous No.2177402]

>>2177382
There is no end, this is highly unavoidable

[Anonymous No.2177403]

>>2177348

[Anonymous No.2177410]

[Anonymous No.2177426]

>>2177410
Something about their work still bothers me...like it seems...weird?

[Anonymous No.2177439]

>>2177410

I saw someone shittily take your GoT piece trace it and claim it as their own.

I didn't call them out on it because I couldn't find your piece again. Link me to that piece?

[Anonymous No.2177455]

>>2177410

http://www.disneyanimation.com/careers/open-positions

[Anonymous No.2177457]

>>2177455
>thinking he can work professionally at that level
hahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahah

[Anonymous No.2177467]

>>2177369
It looks like ZERO progress at all if I'm honest

[Anonymous No.2177469]

>>2177410
You were better in 2013 and 2012 lol

[Anonymous No.2177487]

>>2177457
?? Hell yeah they could, dude. I know tons of people that aren't at his level that are working in the industry with steady jobs. All the stuff he's posted here feels very concept-arty, and I'll agree that it'd be tough for them to get a job in that field (though it's tough for everyone) but he could certainly find work elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.2177501]

>>2177410
>>2177426
ikr,like he/she learned decent fundamentals but still sucks? just plain and simple?

[Anonymous No.2177507]

only one I've ever done,progress throughout 2014

[Anonymous No.2177677]

>>2177426
>>2177469
>>2177457
>>2177501

y'all jelly as fuck

[Anonymous No.2177734]

>>2177368
How am i supposed to work on my progress if i go and get cancer? Wouldnt be very productive now would it?

[Anonymous No.2177737]

>>2177369
this is pretty depressing

[Anonymous No.2177765]

>>2177348
this from 2008 compared to early 2015

[Anonymous No.2177766]

>>2177487
>I know tons of people that aren't at his level that are working in the industry with steady jobs
Can you give an example?

[Anonymous No.2177767]

>>2177765
oh god

[Anonymous No.2177769]

[Anonymous No.2177768]

>>2177734
You wouldn't progress anyways.

[Anonymous No.2177773]

>>2177410
Hey dude whatever your name is.
Congratulations on reaching the point where /ic/ as a collective hivemind of jealous children will try to break you apart.

Is your art perfect? No, Ofcourse not it never will be. I can see that you are doing a great job at self critiqueing or listening to critiques you get. You have outgrown this place.

Were you better in 2013 and 2012?
Ofcourse not, Look at how many characters you managed to put into those scenes and they all work together. It's time to leave this place and you know it.

You can have a Non-Mech John Park art for your troubles.

Just so you know I'm not white knighting you:
I dislike fan art so so much, God it's so bland...
Worst thing is I probably need to do some myself to gain attention... Stop posting your art here man, Nothing good will ever come off it.
Just keep on doing what you are doing it's working fine.

[Anonymous No.2177774]

>>2177766
Jazza.
Not really in the industry, but still living rather comfortably

[Anonymous No.2177781]

>>2177677
That's not true though.

In >>2177410 I feel that their best pieces are the portraits done from life. There's a life in them. They seem like real people, especially that blond next to the dragon. Though, when it comes to their full on painted works from imagination afterwards...I don't know...it seems kind of...I don't know...awkward? Like their figures don't seem don't seem natural? Maybe they stick out too much from the backgrounds?

It would be like seeing a polygon 3d character with a flatyt 2D background? Or maybe they are going into uncanny valley? I don't know what it is...it just seems unsettling a bit.

It's not about being jelly though. It's just a honest observation. If anything, out of the new stuff, I feel that the night scene with all of the animals look the least awkward? Like it seems to be match a bit more?

[Anonymous No.2177818]

>>2177769
all those complex drawings yet after 2 years you are still chicken scratching. kek

[Anonymous No.2177823]

Something base on Jollyjack's one

[Anonymous No.2177826]

>>2177818
Wouldnt really call what i am doing currently chicken scratching, rather just being lazy and sloppy af

[Anonymous No.2177859]

>>2177348
updated mine.

[Anonymous No.2177867]

>>2177859
Still looking forward to you.

[Anonymous No.2177899]

>>2177765
this is good for 1 months worth.

[Anonymous No.2177912]

>>2177859
Pretty cool. Keep it up

[Anonymous No.2177915]

>>2177773
You are an unbelievably insufferable faggot. Why don't YOU leave this board instead of suggesting anyone who isn't complete shit should leave?

[Anonymous No.2177917]

>>2177410
I noticed what bothers me about your work, some of the poses are still awkward as fuck and lot of the standing people aren't grounded properly.
That is easily fixable tough just do a lot of basic gestures.

[Anonymous No.2177918]

>>2177439
>I saw someone shittily take your GoT piece trace it and claim it as their own.

You realize the person who made that GoT piece took a screenshot from the newest Jurassic Park movie, copied it, replaced Chris Pratt with Daenerys, the raptors with dragons and called it their own, right? Chances are whoever you think copied that garbage was also copying that scene from the movie.

[Anonymous No.2177922]

>>2177917
I don't think it is a gesture thing, looks like a rendering thing.

[Anonymous No.2177923]

>>2177859
Man stop hiding your legs and feet.

[Anonymous No.2177924]

>>2177918
>copied it
>implying it looks anything like the original photo beyond composition and posing

Are you really that dense?

[Anonymous No.2177930]

>>2177924
Obviously the scenery and characters look different, but it's still instantly recognizable as that one scene from the new Jurrassic Park movie. It is kind of absurd to cry plagiarism when someone copied the same scene from a huge summer blockbuster movie that you copied.

[Anonymous No.2177932]

>>2177930
Dude, I think that was like... the point of the picture. It was supposed to be a crossover reference thing, lmao.

[Anonymous No.2177939]

>>2177922
Definitely not a rendering thing, Just look at the hands and feet of everyone in the last pic.

[Anonymous No.2177940]

ALL THESE SALTY POSTES

Can /ic/ even draw?

[Anonymous No.2177947]

[Anonymous No.2177953]

>>2177915
He should leave because of retards like you.
A decent artist posts here and gets torn to shreds for trivial shit. He shouldn't have to take that from you cunts when he could be getting praise and valuable feedback and contacts on pages like Polycount.

You are infact the problem.

[Anonymous No.2177959]

>>2177773
As if patronizing makes you the better person.

[Anonymous No.2177971]

>>2177959
stay jelly

[Anonymous No.2177981]

>>2177765
it took you 7 years for...that?

[Anonymous No.2177985]

>>2177947
I see you found your giantess fetish

[Anonymous No.2177999]

i hate people who color their shitty drawings instead of looking at it and trying to see whats off about it

[Anonymous No.2178016]

>>2177999
>trying to see whats off about it
maybe they can't? wtf

[Anonymous No.2178018]

>>2178016
thats a good reason to hate them though, fuck those people, theyll never make it, delusional fuckers, pic related you should be this good before you think about coloring, afterwards you can go back drawing shitty cartoons

[Anonymous No.2178024]

>>2178018

[Anonymous No.2178028]

>>2178024
why? what has that to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.2178051]

>>2178028
everything anon. everything.
begin.
art battle.

[Anonymous No.2178052]

>>2178018
Learning to paint is not a linear process, imbecile.

[Anonymous No.2178067]

>>2178052
no one said anything about painting, what im saying is when youre drawing a figure and your standards are so low that youre ABLE to color it without thinking to yourself how shit you are and how youd rather want to start again and fix the shittyness, then youre a lost cause, especially when youre mostly drawing to get some complete work, finish something instead of wanting to get somewhere, so fuck you, if youre polishing turds and youre unaware youll never make it.

i dont have high standards but if you present me with something finished and i cringe and you dont, you have the wrong mindset.

[Anonymous No.2178072]

>>2177859
well, this is new

[Anonymous No.2178073]

hello

[Anonymous No.2178075]

>>2178067
When you say polishing turds, does this also counts?

[Anonymous No.2178077]

>>2177773
shut the fuck up. /ic/ is great. i posted my self portrait on reddit and got 1400 pleb likes and 80 "Amazing" or "You look like Gordon Freeman"s. I posted it here and got a crit and two good jobs. that's invaluable. /ic/ is very humbling. there's no reason to ever stop posting here unless you lose your humility.

im >>2178073

[Anonymous No.2178080]

>>2178067
You can learn things at all stages in a painting or coloring.
There's also a psychological boost from having completed something, even if it's not very good.
There's no benefit from being so critical that you can't finish something bad. You learn either way, but one way you wallow in frustration for months or years instead of finding drawing something to look forward to.

[Anonymous No.2178083]

>>2178075
Is it bad that I really like the 2015 one

[Anonymous No.2178088]

>>2178075
no it looks good enough, its a stylized person but you can see the fundamentals

>>2178080
its ok if youre using it for yourself for learning purposes and you know what you still need to work on, im not talking about posting your art in a critique thread, im talking about DA for instance, most people dont upload their shit to get critique and then work on your weaknesses, they present your with a finished product that they want you to adore, its the same with a lot of webcomics. They have this unbelievable turd polishing ability that scares me and makes me mad.

[Anonymous No.2178093]

>>2178075
I like the proportions of the first one more. The after has severe jew face going on.

>>2178088
Oh okay I thought you meant actual artists, not people who want to hugbox with other untalented people on dA.
The amount of trash that people try to sell as prints is stomach churning

[Anonymous No.2178098]

>>2177940
No, the people here see the others posting here as somewhat being at the same level as they are in terms of craftsmanship, while ignoring the idea that not established artists "spend time here, too", but the proverbial bottom of the barrel does post here, with them being an established part of this cesspool of failed existences we dwell in.

You wanna know why you will end up working in a job again you couldn't care less for?
Because we all post here, thinking to ourselves that these fine people on 4chan's /ic/ are our peers and that we are halfway between pathetic and awesome as artists.

Shitty skewed perspective, holmes, as if there's room in this world for your art, occupying someone else's minds and enchanting them with your work, skill and vision.

"If it doesn't have to be the Mona Lisa to be good art", then why not try to surpass this portrait, instead of glumly accepting that whatever you create, will be always worse in some way than the Mona Lisa?

Because you look at things wrong, when it comes to art.
We are all failed children in the eyes of both our chosen parents and the ones related by blood or affection to us.
Welcome to Hell, anon.

This is the answer to "wouldn't eternal torture not ever get old soon": no, because all dreams and memories we have are of the only thing we would experience constantly and without respite or distraction.

No, because to you, it would never feel like torture, yet your aspirations will never be satisfied until you die.

Love,
God

PS: long time, no see, eh? Sorry, this guy I currently control to type this was born in 1982, Germany, so his English vocabulary and syntax are really odd.. so, you all good?
Did you get rid of the smart people yet, because, what was it, ah, because making the world nicer for everyone is a shit idea because it is actually making the world worse for everyone?
I can really dumb it down from here and now, in case: 更傻的是?

Ah, it's the other guys, right?

[Anonymous No.2178111]

i used to be a pony faggot no judge

[Anonymous No.2178113]

>>2178111

[Anonymous No.2178115]

>>2178111
Well done. You just crashed someone's mind because to him, he sees no difference in quality between the two images.

Yeah dude, I am talking to you.

[Anonymous No.2178116]

>>2178111
Very cute good work. U need Loomis tho fam just tbh. Also...

(you can't hide what's inside pony boi)

[Anonymous No.2178118]

>>2178073
do you have a tumblr or something? I really like your work.

[Anonymous No.2178120]

>>2178075
I think this looked much better before. The expression in particular was so much more appealing in the 2014 version.

[Anonymous No.2178133]

>>2178116
smh tbh imo fam

[Anonymous No.2178135]

>>2178133
fyi tbh imho LOOMIS fam smh

[Anonymous No.2178137]

>>2178083
Yes.
It's very bad.

[Anonymous No.2178150]

>>2178137
But it looks cool

[Anonymous No.2178160]

>>2178077
>/ic/ is very humbling. there's no reason to ever stop posting here unless you lose your humility.

You did write this post a couple of weeks ago on The Rock thread, didn't you?
>im so fucking good give it a rest. at this rate ill stop posting on /ic/ within a year cause nobody will be able to crit me
from here >>/ic/thread/S2167651

Not trying to start shit, maybe some guy was messing around and impersonating you? Sounds weird if both things came from the same person.

[Anonymous No.2178165]

>>2178116
>>2178135
>>2178135
mup da do dee da tbh dat tum fam smh muh fuggen BIX NOOD

[Anonymous No.2178167]

>>2178160
>Sounds weird if both things came from the same person.
word

[Anonymous No.2178172]

>>2178160
>>2178077
ya dun didely did it now bwoi

[Anonymous No.2178177]

>>2178098
You're awesome

[Anonymous No.2178178]

>>2178098
>I'm God but I can neither speak English worth a damn nor possess someone who can

neato

[Anonymous No.2178190]

>>2178083
Well that's their current style but they've done much better back then, their technical skills are regressing compared to their stylized skills.

[Anonymous No.2178214]

>>2177930
Parody not plagiarism

[Anonymous No.2178238]

>>2177348

This thread is just people trolling.

Shit thread.

[Anonymous No.2178241]

>>2178178
You couldn't notice the sliver of difference between an idiot and a very smart human.

[Anonymous No.2178294]

>>2177410
you're doing fine, you've actually progressed in areas that others are no where near. I admit you've got to go back to the basics. But believe me brother, you're already at a hire-able level.

[Anonymous No.2178343]

>>2177410
Detkef?

[Anonymous No.2178363]

tfw i delete all my shit work and will never have enough to make a compilation like this

[Anonymous No.2178377]

>>2178363
I do the same thing. Wish I hadn't, but when I found a folder of drawings from when I was 13 it made me want to throw up and die from embarrassment

[Anonymous No.2178413]

yeah.

[Anonymous No.2178439]

>>2177348
This is some stuff from this year, it's pretty sporadic because I don't do stuff on the computer too often
Would you say I'm making reasonable progress?

[Anonymous No.2178446]

>>2178439
definitely, keep going, but jesus christ man, 5808x1240 is way too big

[Anonymous No.2178457]

>>2177487
You realize that maybe only 2 out of all the pieces posted could even be considered concept art in the first place? Getting a job with that level of work is actually very difficult. Maybe some kickstarter project may hire you because they are strapped for cash, but no actual company would think twice about hiring this dude yet. To think that Disney of all places would even look at him is actually hilarious. They only take the best of the best who have minimum 10 years experience on AAA titles. Hell, they won't even look at you unless you have 5 years experience or are just coming out of Art Center at the top of your class.

I'm also curious to know the "tons" of people you know that are worse than that and in the industry that are worse than this dude. Surely, they could be janitors, secretaries, or the occasional code monkey.. But I promise you that they are not considered concept artists. You know theres like only a small team of concept artists on each project right? Mass Effect had like 3 concept artists. Blizzard has like 4 main dudes that have been there for 15 years. Star Wars has like 4 dudes. All of which were some of the best of the best with 10+ years experience. There's no way he could get a concept art job with that shit portfolio.

TLDR: You're a fucking idiot and you don't know shit.

[Anonymous No.2178466]

>>2178413
vinesauce

[Anonymous No.2178499]

>>2178457
Do you work for Disney or something and know this? You sound like you're just pulling numbers and claims out of your ass because you got told you were not good enough by them lol

[Anonymous No.2178507]

>>2178439
Eh -> Pretty decent -> The fuck is this tumblr shit -> Oh that's pretty good -> What happened -> Seriously what happened.
Also I'm 95% sure you are a girl. 5% chance to be a gigantic faggot.

[Anonymous No.2178534]

>>2178499
Do you work at disney to be able to refute this?
He can't work at AAA level with that level of technical ability while also having very few original ideas (see all his drawings of existing characters)

[Anonymous No.2178539]

>>2178534
>implying originality is a desired trait for prospective Disney artists

[Anonymous No.2178624]

>>2178457
Are you fucking insane? Where did this outburst about Disney come from, my man? I even said in my post that the dude's probably gonna have a rough time finding a concept art job, but that's not the only art related job that exists. I am well aware of the low availabilities in the concept art field, which is why I said that he'd be able to find jobs elsewhere, for sure.

How did you extrapolate all this shit from my post? Like I hate to use argumentative buzzwords but you sound like you're hella projecting, like you tried for concept art and got denied everywhere and are now justifying it with all this "Star Wars only had four dudes, concept art is impossible!!"

Here are some folks that are working professionally right now:

http://melsartmausoleum.blogspot.ca/
http://ericapittanimation.blogspot.ca/
http://volambrys.tumblr.com/
http://kait-lines.tumblr.com/
http://adamisntreal.tumblr.com/
http://jordanshereck.com/

[Anonymous No.2178629]

>>2177507
The poses got noticeably more solid. I don't give a fuck about coloring tbh

[Anonymous No.2178637]

>>2178067
I agree but you can learn stuff by polishing shit. Though with the common attitude that comes with that behavior it's likely that this person won't ever progress

[Anonymous No.2178667]

>>2178075
Face of 2014 and body of 2015 also colors from 14.

[Anonymous No.2178821]

>>2177369
The sprites are surpringly way too good looking compared to the rest.

[Anonymous No.2178836]

>>2178457
Capitalism, you don't understand it, it's going to be more competence and game projects, it's already happening, obviously there will not be a massive amount of triple A games, but that's just a small part of the growing cake

[Anonymous No.2178843]

[Anonymous No.2178847]

swapped out some of the older drawings
>10/13-8/14 were unbiasedly chosen from the 5th of each month
>cherry picked the rest

gotta work on making more OC and backgrounds next...

[Anonymous No.2178848]

>>2177859

It has become easy now to recognize your art, I think that speaks for itself. Keep it up, bro

[Anonymous No.2178849]

>>2177947

I always forget to ask for your blog man,
say it now!

[Anonymous No.2178860]

>>2178847
I know you! You're the anon that posted those marker sketches of the Gurren last year.
You're fucking beasting it bro. Blog?

[Anonymous No.2178874]

I must acquire gains

[Anonymous No.2178881]

>>2177348
>Didn't learn anatomy/gesture/perspective just learned how to paint
How horrifying.

[Anonymous No.2178916]

>tfw no style

>>2178874
You improve a lot , I love 2015 work , nice job ,keep going !
>>2178847
god this is awesome.
>>2178843
that's better , much better , but the hand on the right one scared me.
>>2178413
Awesome style , a blog ?

[Anonymous No.2178947]

Here is my progress from 2011 to 2015

[Anonymous No.2178948]

>>2178947
unf, I love your work
Have you ever tried digital stuff, I'd love to see how it translates

[Anonymous No.2178952]

>>2178948
Thank you so much! Yes, the first pic from 2014 is digital. Here is a different digital work!

[Anonymous No.2178979]

>>2177781
i think i get it,

from the girl
the simplistic character one isnt bad because they are just standing around
the viking is a bit stiff, probably a pure imagination and he didn't know what details should or shouldn't be there,
the fight... there is no weight in those characters,
the animal dancing one isn't bad
the dragons are fantastic, but that girls again has no weight and is an really awkward pose.

the last one is kind of good, but again, stiff as fuck focal point character.

[Anonymous No.2179008]

>>2178847
How many of those are copies from other artists and how many did you do from imagination?

[Anonymous No.2179070]

>>2179008
Red dots are copies or studies. Blue dots used multiple references. Green dots are from imagination with minor reference usage

>>2178916
>>2178860
Thanks!
>marker sketches of the Gurren last year.
Did you mean pic attached? Can't wait for inktober again this year! Blog is here
>>2169953

[Anonymous No.2179148]

>>2179070
That's exactly what I meant.
I've got my eye on you.

[Anonymous No.2179155]

>>2179070
I've been watching you for awhile now, you've been improving; now get back to studying.

[Anonymous No.2179174]

>>2178947
I really dont like your stuff, but I respect you and I think its pretty interesting that people like >>2178948 actually likes it, gives me hope

[Anonymous No.2179175]

>>2178916
Hole shit you improved a bunch from 2014 to 2015, mind sharing some tips?

[Anonymous No.2179243]

>>2178075
All I can say is that if you take away the fancy coloring, the drawing itself is just "meh", they put too much effort with style to the point that they lost focus on general skills, it's obvious that 2015 is really heavy on symbols. The artist's attitude is also pretty poor towards criticism, realism and practicing.

In the end doesn't matter how long you've been drawing, it matters how much you've worked on your craft and how much skill you've gain over time. I understand that they can draw whatever they want but using "it's my style" or "I'm satisfied with what I'm doing" as an excuse for lack of skill and hiding laziness, it also shows that you don't have any intention of doing much, much more than what you usually do. This is why I use artist like them as future reference to not end up like that, when you're on an art high or your ego blinds you.

[Anonymous No.2179270]

>>2178847
Tableguy you need to work on your anatomy ffs
I love your lines and your rendering but fucks sake man study some perspective and loomis

[Anonymous No.2179287]

What is next for me? I'm starting to plateu. someone give me some drills to help me get back on the improvement track. /ic/ decides what do?

[Anonymous No.2179288]

>>2179287 samefag here BTW left April,2015 Right July, 2015

[Anonymous No.2179333]

>>2179287
are you fucking blind
you got gud
stay there

[Anonymous No.2179359]

>>2179174
Thanks. Respect is important. I respect you too.

[Anonymous No.2179366]

>>2179287

What's your practice like right now?

[Anonymous No.2179369]

>>2179287
How about you start making some career goals involving getting paid to work?

You don't have to stay in a limbo of practice and studies forever.

[Anonymous No.2179390]

>>2178849
not him but i found his deviantart
http://yilx.deviantart.com/gallery/

[Anonymous No.2179433]

>>2179175
Thanks ,that's really nice!
Well I'm sorry ,the only tip I can give you is to draw a lot ..
Even if it's shit ,draw ,draw ,draw.

[Anonymous No.2179447]

>>2178073
I like the aeroplane one.

[Anonymous No.2179460]

>>2177369
First time I saw this.

Fuckin Kek'd

[Anonymous No.2179466]

>>2179175
Looks like he stopped being a brony.

Thank god and good riddance.

[Anonymous No.2179473]

>>2177467
>>2177737
>>2179460
That guy is literally retarded iirc.

[Anonymous No.2179475]

>>2179473
So the average Deviant Art user?

[Anonymous No.2179480]

>>2177410

I like the progress but the Daenerys one cracks me up every time.

[Anonymous No.2179484]

>>2178018

>pic related you should be this good before you think about coloring

That's fucking retarded. Getting to that level won't make you any better at coloring, the only way to improve is to practice fucking coloring.

You could be an awesome colorist and not be able to actually draw anything at all.

[Anonymous No.2179486]

>>2178028

You're either at that level where you said people should begin to color, or beneath it.

You are most definitely beneath it, meaning you haven't touched color yet meaning you're below noob tier or are just hypocritical and should shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.2179487]

>>2179484
For fucks sake, this.
Also when you paint something irl you will use colors right away.

[Anonymous No.2179488]

>>2178028

To show you're not one of many armchair artists on this board who can't draw worth shit but thinks they know what they're talking about because they've read a book on it.

[Anonymous No.2179516]

>>2179487
>tfw a friend checked my bloc
>'well I'm tired of watching you draw, paint some shit'
>'heh, I'll see'
>days pass
>she comes with a fucking canvas she made by herself, acrylics, brushes
>points at a classmate
>'paint that guy'
>'b-but'
>'now'
>'but I'm shit mixing colors'
>'just grab the biggest brush and do what you see'
>JUST
and it felt amazing

[Anonymous No.2179527]

4 Months Ago

[Anonymous No.2179528]

Today.

[Anonymous No.2179530]

>>2179527
>>2179528
What have you been doing during those 4 months if I may ask?

[Anonymous No.2179533]

>>2179530
trying to learn anatomy, get better at cel shading which is the style i enjoy the most. i honestly dont know, just drew a fuck ton and got better. I just practiced different stuff everyday like hair, hands etc and i got better.

[Anonymous No.2179538]

>>2179533
heres somewhere in the middle

[Anonymous No.2179544]

>>2177348

[Anonymous No.2179563]

The ride never ends lads

[Anonymous No.2179565]

>>2179563
I think you like dragons

[Anonymous No.2179574]

>>2179563
The last two look professional. Are you a professional?

[Anonymous No.2179664]

>>2179563
Nr 6 is heavily "inspired " by Ruan Jia, composition, colors and the body are almost the same as in this other piece.

You have good skills though.

[Anonymous No.2179670]

>>2179484
>>2179487

Are you fucking retarded? If you're only good with paint, what good does it do if you cannot draw? You will never make good pieces because you only know how to render something, but have no fundamentals, do you think the old masters were are just guys who started painting?

Fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.2179674]

>>2179333
Lol, nice way to waste those trips.

If you consider this gud then you must suck ass pretty hard.

Look at those noses, those ears those lips, and after all its only a fucking study of a photo, or maybe even a copy.

He is certainly not mediocre anymore, but gud in my mind means stuff way better than this

[Anonymous No.2179681]

>>2178624
>hella
Just stop using this word, it makes me cringe.

[Anonymous No.2179692]

>>2179681

[Anonymous No.2179698]

>>2179670
I don't understand why you're making this difference between 'drawing' and 'painting'

When you paint you're drawing with colors

[Anonymous No.2179700]

>>2179670
>If you're only good with paint, what good does it do if you cannot draw?

>implying anyone thought this
>implying everyone wasn't just jumping on your ass for saying that people shouldn't work in color until they reach chink-level academic tier drawing skills.
>muh fundamentals
>muh buzzwords

Just shut the fuck up. You don't know shit and you're just parroting stuff you hear on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.2179711]

>>2178624
kek. I misread and went on a tangent. WOOPS. Sorry m8

[Mum !!Mzj8lkTrRKr No.2179737]

I just got my tablet in 2012 btw.

[Anonymous No.2179756]

[Anonymous No.2179760]

>>2179737
you went from shit to shit-ish. Get back to your studies.

[Anonymous No.2179801]

>>2179698
Painting and Drawing are not the same!
With on you block in values and with the other you set down lines, thank you for proving my point.
Of course you can "draw" with a brush, but then it's still considered a drawing because you're still blocking in values or a single one, with painting you have to know how to go about all this, how to render, how to use the brushes to their best effect, what colors do and how they react next to each other, how to mix them.

That is certainly more than the decision between a thick line and a thin line, wouldn't you say?

>>2179700
>fundamentals
>is a buzzword
First off, the word buzzword itself is a buzzword, so fuck off you little redditard.

If you cannot draw a human head with a very good precision and expertise your painting will suck, that is what I consider a fundamental trait among every good painter, do you think Ruan Jia or those digital artists didnt learn how to draw?
Of course you don't need to shade every fucking drawing to the max but it is the knowledge of bone structure, muscle movement and the alignment of both that dictates how you go about painting, because for example, a painter follows muscles and tissue with his brush, like a good chef does not go against the fibre in meat with his knife, but cuts following the strands of fibre.

If you don't know how to cook macaroni and cheese(I chose a stupid amerifat dish for you to feel welcome here) nor any other complex recipe, I don't expect you to be able to be good at making a nice entrecote.

TL;DReddit: fuck off to you where you came from

[Anonymous No.2179812]

>>2179801
I don't agree. Would you say that a portrait done on pencils/charcoal is a drawing or a painting? It has both shades and lines

Something being monochrome has nothing to do with it being a painting or a drawing

[Anonymous No.2179814]

>>2179812
PS: Maybe we're arguing semantics. But to me not all drawings are paintings, but all paintings are drawing. When you put on clothes you're re-drawing your silouette. When you do a mosaic, design, collage, low relief, even sculpture, setting a scene for a movie, you're drawing.

That's why if you're able to solve one of those things it's likely that it won't be a hard effort to solve the others once you get past the technical limitations.

tl;dr: Do you need to handle a pencil like a god to sculpt? Do you need to rek canvases to design? No. But it overlaps and it's extremely useful. You don't need to be a god of the pencil to do anything, you need to git gud and there are many other ways to do so.

[Anonymous No.2179824]

>>2179814
P.P.S: We could argue that it's the most direct, cheap and time effective way, and it probably is true. But if you never grab a pencil and just paint you will become good too, same as if you just sculpt, take photos or whatever.

[Anonymous No.2179837]

Here again.

[Anonymous No.2179850]

i've been shit this year

[Anonymous No.2179852]

>>2179850

Man and to think I started out drawing pone just like you.

Holy shit we are in a different spots right now.

[Anonymous No.2179855]

>>2179852
lemme see your stuff

[Anonymous No.2179858]

>>2179855

No disrespect m8 I just got blown away by nostalgia and how our work is different now.

Pic related is one of the very first things I drew and the reason why I ended up in /ic/ to begin with. Someone called it cringeworthy and I decided to toughen up by heading over to 4chan for art.

My tumblr is http://bulldogclips.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2179873]

>>2179858
>Someone called it cringeworthy and I decided to toughen up by heading over to 4chan for art.

Spoken like a true 14-year-old.

Your art is outstandingly boring, btw. Why not share something more interesting than apple studies and half-assed B&W concept silhouettes?

[Anonymous No.2179874]

>>2179858
Hey man, most of your color palettes are very satisfying to look at. Cool stuff man. Keep working hard.

[Anonymous No.2179877]

>>2179873
lol that dude wasn't rude to you at all. He was being friendly with you. Dang, the things jelly can do. Immediate 180, that's funny

[Anonymous No.2179881]

>>2179873
>something more interesting..

I haven't done any sort of full illustration in long time but I'm planning on it right now with one of the character silhouettes I designed.

>spoken like a true 14 year old

I was/am right though, your post itself is proof and the fact that I'm not personally offended in the least is something I'm vaguely satisfied with.

>>2179874
cheers cunt

>>2179877
probably not the same guy

[Anonymous No.2179888]

>>2179850
4 years and this is all you got? Holy shit, there is a god

[Anonymous No.2179891]

>>2179756
you got pretty good, but that is still a shitty progress to be honest.

4 years for those results...I dont know.

[Anonymous No.2179905]

>>2179858
cool here's mine, it sucks and i made it 10 minutes ago http://placefordrawings.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.2179906]

>>2179888
i started at the very end of 2012 so its more like 2,5 years.

[Anonymous No.2179908]

>>2179881
>probably not the same guy
Yeah, you're right. It read as unnecessarily pissy for some reason.

>>2179850
Sorry for saying that you were jelly. My mistake.

[Anonymous No.2179911]

>>2179905
followed m8

[Anonymous No.2179929]

>>2179908
you never called me jelly though, im not the guy that called his art boring.

[Anonymous No.2179956]

>>2179891
I've heard a lot of hard critique for 3 years being here but your post is the only one that made me sad.

[Anonymous No.2179959]

>>2179956
git gud.

[Anonymous No.2179968]

>>2179956
Hey depressed anon, what was your schedule like during those four years? How many days a week did you draw? I'm just curious. Would you consider yourself disciplined well, in terms of how well you spend your time and if you work often enough for your liking?

[Anonymous No.2179978]

>>2177765
SEVEN YEARS

[Anonymous No.2179982]

I know it says 2011-2015, but I've only been trying to improve for 10 months or so, so i was as good as the left side almost a year ago.

Am I wasting my life? not that it will stop me if I am. that's all I've really been doing all my existance

[Anonymous No.2179988]

[Anonymous No.2179990]

>>2179988

[Anonymous No.2180021]

>>2179956
I was the one you responded to. I didnt want to make you feel bad (well maybe a little) I mean I have no knowledge of your routine and how much you did, but me for example Ive been at it for 5-6 months and I am already way way better than when I started. I was always a good human photocopier but now I am really learning, I am drawing every day, for at least 1-2 hours since 3 months or so (usually draw/paint 25 hours a week at least).

You on the other hand could probably be way better, if you would either stick to it more or trained better (I dont know what you do so...)

There are people who practice for a year and are better than your results now. You are good though, dont worry, apply yourself more and you will be golden in another 4 years. I will look forward to it :)

[Anonymous No.2180025]

>>2180021
also, that sargent and sculpture study(the guy) are fucking awesome, especially the sculpture, really great, dont feel bad, I usually asume that everyone here is so hardend already that they feel only a slight bit of feels

[Anonymous No.2180032]

I might have some mistakes in text, not a native speaker.
>>2179968
I don't think I've spent much enough. At first it was like a hobby, drawing anime and etc., then I started to take it seriously and spend time on studies and such, but still maybe 1-2 hours a day(not everyday). There was also months of procrastination. I don't consider myself as disciplined hardworker, but gradually I started to get interested more and more. Gamedev becomes my golden dream where people actually create something (and fight with souvenir swords) and have worthy lives.
I've never attended any art courses or schools, completely self-taught. I also have a specialty that has nothing to do with art. A year ago got a full-time office job so it also affected my progress. I lost my job and finally gathered money to attend an Art School but don't expect much because of external education.

[Anonymous No.2180039]

>>2179563

hey i'm glad you're still at it. your colors have improved greatly between 2012 and 2013, got anything specific you wanna share on how you got there?

[Anonymous No.2180040]

>>2178160
rekt

[Anonymous No.2180043]

>>2178343
I also recognize zombiewaffe here

[Anonymous No.2180209]

>>2178073
you can't progress, your airplane painting was the best.

[Anonymous No.2180227]

>>2179982
you're not investing your time properly

[Anonymous No.2180232]

>>2180021
>apply yourself more and you will be golden in another 4 years. I will look forward to it :)
ayy that's so mean

[Anonymous No.2180241]

>>2177348

for the record im not "back" and this doesnt count as posting art to /ic/

there is just no place to post this on /co/ thats the only reason im here, and not for long, so dont get comfortable with me being here

this is the only thread im posting in

[Anonymous No.2180242]

>>2180241

more proof ive improved

[Anonymous No.2180252]

>>2180242

40 as in page 40 of DEMON JUICE which you can read here for free: http://demonjuice.thecomicseries.com/

[Anonymous No.2180290]

[Anonymous No.2180303]

>>2177410
>Making so fucking fast progress
just end me already

[Anonymous No.2180308]

>>2179837
Love the early 2012 Rose, and that recent Waluigi is glorious. Link to the full sized WAH?

[Anonymous No.2180333]

>>2177507
Pretty good, but try making more pieces with dynamic poses, it will make your work a lot more interesting.

[Anonymous No.2180336]

>tfw I have ideas I want to put on paper, but no skills
>tfw when still can't draw from imagination
Pic is my progress of 1 month of drawing (from beginning of June to now), 1 hour a day (read up-down). Last image is (attempted) from imagination, the rest are from pose image websites. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, not being able to draw what I want is like a cigarette burn through my wrist.

[Anonymous No.2180338]

>>2180336
*July

[Anonymous No.2180343]

>>2180336
Art has a slow learning curve. Expect it to take years, not a month or two.

[Anonymous No.2180347]

>>2177426
>>2177439
>>2177455
>>2177469
>>2177501
>>2177917
>>2178294
>>2179480

Thanks for the replies and critiques, I am aware that I am lacking in a lot of areas, and I still have a long way to go before I can get picked up by any of the studios I want to work for.

Lately I don't think I am putting in enough effort, but I am also very tired after 3 hard years at my current art college. It's been very demanding, and a lot of the naive and hopeful attitude I had when I started college has gone away (this is why I think a lot of people like the 2012-2013 stuff more). I still love drawing more than anything, but now I am starting to realize reality, and that I have to really fight to get to the level I have to be at to get hired. I get reminded of that often, and it helps that you guys remind me too.

so yes, I will have to go over the fundamentals again, probably take up way more figure drawing and traditional painting. It really shows that I haven't being doing much of this lately.

[Anonymous No.2180352]

>>2179873
Why is /ic/ so full of bitter cunts like yourself?

[Anonymous No.2180353]

>>2180308
Please rip my timeline work to shreds and point out what I should work on most and if possible, how? I need direction. A harsh shove, if you will. I'd also gladly take a pummeling. /ic/'s been too gentle or stayed quiet entirely and I hate it.
Here's your wah though.

[Anonymous No.2180354]

>>2180343
Yeah, I figured as much. Back to the grind I guess, hopefully one day I can look back on this and laugh

[Anonymous No.2180378]

[Anonymous No.2180393]

i think its good progress, what you think guys?

[Anonymous No.2180401]

>>2179466
you right.

[Anonymous No.2180409]

>>2180227
What should I be focusing more on?

PS. in retrospect, I should have done a more up to date one, that comparison is 2 months old, and since then I have been working on color, light and values. this is more recent

[Anonymous No.2180410]

>>2180409
stop bumping the thread with your shit art

[Anonymous No.2180412]

>>2180410
calm down, I asked a question

[Anonymous No.2180413]

>>2180378
Is this supposed to be good progress?

[mayo No.2180457]

my year so far.

university is a helluva drug.

[Anonymous No.2180458]

>>2180393
Its alright, it wouldve been a lot better if you focussed on actual tudying instead of personal work (at this stage).

[Anonymous No.2180462]

>>2180209
was this van gogh's best painting?

[Anonymous No.2180466]

>>2180462
almond blossoms in bloom

[Anonymous No.2180478]

>>2180466
was just responding to that anon. it's hard to live down good ideas. it sets expectations for future work incredibly high.

i've tried on and off for the past 3 years to get close to that one's appeal. it's hard. it's a good combination of a good joke and a composition that tells the joke well.

pic related is something i thought came close but the execution might not quite be there, and it looks better when your in front of it compared to looking at a photo because it looks like i just took the photo wrong.

[Anonymous No.2180483]

>>2180209

heres another idea of mine that probably has too many moving parts to have the appeal that plane one has, but it's one of the better written jokes i've ever done

>>2179605

[Anonymous No.2180499]

>>2180393
Still shit, but less shit. Keep going

[Anonymous No.2180501]

>>2177348
ayy lmou

[Anonymous No.2180527]

>>2180483

ugh hopeless/disappointing

[Anonymous No.2180529]

>>2180527
everybodys a critic

[Anonymous No.2180545]

>>2179988

Looking good, anon.

[Anonymous No.2180546]

>>2179956

Half of /ic/ is stuck in the idea that everyone should be on a strict 8 to 10 hour daily regime and seems to measure progress by that standard. I wouldn't worry about some guy saying your progress wasn't great with zero substance to his post.

[Anonymous No.2180561]

>>2177501
he/she does not "suck." Maybe they aren't professional level but they are far beyond "suck" tier. Holy shit.

Harsh comments like that, which are not constructive, are why there are really really good artists out there who have little to no confidence in their ability.

>>2180347

Anon, don't forget that there are professional Marvel/DC artists who are infamous for sucking, yet they still have careers. You have a shot at a career for sure as long as you don't give up.

[Anonymous No.2180567]

both are pretty rough and shitty, havent really practiced much digital art. about a year apart.

[Anonymous No.2180592]

>>2180546
If you think that this progress is worth 4 years then you're deluded and probably suck ass yourself.

Now I know he maybe not disciplined and not working hard during those 4 years, it's still no justification in my opinion, time is the only thing that we as humans run out of, and very quickly at that, 4 years are 2 years too many in that case, he could be scratching at catbib levels right now.

I don't think anyone on /ic/ is working on an 8(AM) to 10 (PM) schedule on a daily basis, and I never said that, but 1-2 hours a day should definitely be there for you to make good progress

[Anonymous No.2180594]

>>2180409
Your "progress" is close to nothing to be honest, shitty colors, no composition, no anatomy, no perspective, nothing to be honest. I would feel like total shit for wasting a whole year away.

[Anonymous No.2180596]

>>2180378
>15 years
This guy could be doing Ruan Jia style stuff if he would've made the right choices

[Anonymous No.2180597]

Why the fuck do people just change their style in minute ways or alter their rendering technique and call it progress? "I can polish a turd better than I could a month ago, I'm getting better!"

[Anonymous No.2180599]

>>2180597
>"I can polish a turd better than I could a month ago, I'm getting better!"

This annoys me, too. It looks less like improvement and more like they learned some Photoshop settings.

This problem is solved when artists realize they should use more than one example of their work for each improvement stage, and that if they're going to count progress by month then they should document MORE THAN ONE FUCKING MONTH

[Anonymous No.2180610]

>>2180032
well you keep it up, I'm sucking at my career cause I've been spending too much time drawing lately, but it's gotta be worth it someday. just have faith in your talent.

[Anonymous No.2180612]

>>2180378
I was only 7 when this guy started drawing and i'm already better than him.

[Anonymous No.2180613]

>>2180612
correction, I was 2. i'm 22.

[Anonymous No.2180615]

>>2180612
>>2180613
Drawing as a child isn't really something to brag about, it's when you start to study and develop fundies and whatnot that really starts to count I'd say. When do you think you got serious?

[Anonymous No.2180618]

>>2179990
lmao

[Anonymous No.2180619]

>>2180615
>>2180612
>>2180613
Wait, fuck me, I'm sorry. Misinterpereted your post.

[Anonymous No.2180621]

>>2179563
marry me anon <3

[Anonymous No.2180625]

>>2179837
lokki-lokki?
your hands and feet could still use some work
some general anatomy issues

do more photograph/screenshot studies without stylizing the humans

you've clearly improved though, so not much to comment on

[Anonymous No.2180631]

just started to take art seriously like 6 weeks ago hopefully i can get better at backgrounds and human anatomy
any book rec for gestures and drawing people?

[Anonymous No.2180636]

>>2179563
I love the angel picture.

[mayo No.2180665]

>>2180457
>when no one even notices your progress pic
>Okay.tiff

[Anonymous No.2180668]

>>2180241
nigger that progress is a matter of just doing the drawing again. if it really took you a year what the fuck were you doing

[Anonymous No.2180670]

>>2180665
the images you selected for your improvement meme aren't great meters for your improvement. they're all mediocre pics in different styles/of different things. the spacecycle at the bottom looks pretty good, but the best figure in your improvement meme is the yellow skull guy, while the quality of your lines/coloring has steadily deteriorated for the rest.
the robots in your meme look like scribbles that were conceived in 2 minutes- and it shows.

you really don't want to hear this, though, and no one want to take the time to write it, which is why you've got no feedback.

[Anonymous No.2180673]

>>2180354
what I did was try to bash my head into a project. not try to fix it on the run or become stuck, just go into it as much as I can

after that leave it to rest for a couple days (it's very likely that at the moment you think it's shit and have a drive to fix it, making it even shittier)

come back and check what I did wrong, what I did right, what I should try about it

example: I want to draw beautiful women, so I tackled a painting from one of my sketches. Face was great, shades were great, expression was great. When I went to add hair it was shit. Tried to add more and it was even shittier. Instead of fixing it I decided to try using charcoal on top of the acrylic

what ended up was something nothing like I expected to do, but learned tons. and it was just a couple of hours. my valuable lessons were some positive: I am noticeably better than I expected at drawing women, mixing colors, levelling the palette and giving strength to the pic. I am shit (talking abysmal here) at hair, pretty bad at centering the pic, chroinc fear of doing figurative backgrounds. Neutral things were that I'd rather use shades than lines for my style, and that I should not be afraid of using a pencil before going into the brush

after this I grinded hair and the following sketches and works got noticeably better

sorry for the length but it may be helpful to anyone stuck. JUST

[Anonymous No.2180674]

>>2180457
You're stuck in tumblr phase and aren't pushing yourself to make anything actually impressive.

[Anonymous No.2180680]

>>2180665

I vaguely agree with >>2180665 and >>2180674

I like your cool helmet tho, bretty gud.

Got a tumblr?

[Anonymous No.2180681]

>>2180592
>spending an hour or two a day for 4 years makes you a pro
shitters don't even try nowadays

[Anonymous No.2180686]

>>2179988
I suddenly feel more motivated

[Anonymous No.2180689]

I'm still no good but at least I'm getting better.

[mayo No.2180696]

>>2180674
So the advice is to try and churn out more polished pieces rather than many non-polished? I'll try my hand at a full composition then. Thanks anon.

>>2180680
I've got a tumblr I dont really update regularly,
ayelmayo.tumblr.com

>>2180670
I want to hear the harsh shit though. I've got no problem with being ripped apart if it's constructive. Oldmate from uni wont give me constructive criticism if he tried (because they don't want to offend me), and our professors think speed is everything. So thanks, I'll try and get some more detailed, precise stuff out and work on my line quality.

[Anonymous No.2180698]

>>2180696
>ayelmayo.tumblr.com
Draw more traps.

[Anonymous No.2180704]

>>2178075
Left was better (before)

[Anonymous No.2180712]

>>2180696
>So the advice is to try and churn out more polished pieces rather than many non-polished?
no, I'm saying that you should risk doing something out of your comfort zone

something being polished or not is just another aspect of many things you can work on

push the boundaries of what you can do, be it something completely detailed, abstract, tracing a tentacle dickgirl, using different materials, even sculpting or taking photos

do something different or you'll always be stuck

[Anonymous No.2180727]

>>2180561
>Anon, don't forget that there are professional Marvel/DC artists who are infamous for sucking, yet they still have careers

Competition is much harsher now than in the 90's people have to be very good to make it big in the industry.

[Anonymous No.2180746]

>>2180625
Yes. Thank you.
I'll work on this.

[Anonymous No.2180750]

>>2177859
should have killed himself in october 2009

[Anonymous No.2180757]

It's not a coincidence that the biggest jumps in quality in most of those are coincidental with tackling serious studies of still lifes, pictures and so

[Anonymous No.2180777]

almost a year apart

people here keep improving and improving haha

[Anonymous No.2180782]

sorry for the stupid fucking collage with gay opaque shit

[Anonymous No.2180811]

>>2180782
dam son

symbol drawing got so rekt

[Anonymous No.2180813]

>>2180811

[Anonymous No.2180818]

>>2180782
>gay as fuck
>stupid fucking collage
>gay opaque shit
>copying photos

Confirmed for an immature little shit.

[Anonymous No.2180839]

>>2180782
fyi opaque means having solid color, ie no light goes through.
It's the opposite of transparent / translucent (which i think is the word you want there)

Nice work, yeah the photo reliance shows a bit but I still like them a lot. Those contrasts are pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.2180841]

>>2179563
Blog please.

[Anonymous No.2180897]

>>2180818
>>2180839
What's wrong with copying pics if he does it so well? Chances are that if he can solve those so well he must handle portraits and textures really nicely.

If you think that copying pics is the only thing he does, how about asking instead of being asses?

[Anonymous No.2180914]

>>2179850
>howilearnedtotumblrnose.png

[Anonymous No.2180916]

>>2180897
I wish people would include more non-direct reference works in their progress collages, it's really hard to tell where they're are at otherwise.

[Anonymous No.2181012]

>>2180777
First one has nicer edges, second one is just more polished and detailed but also mudd.

[Anonymous No.2181018]

>>2180681
This.

If you want to be really good after 4 years, you will need to work on a fucking schedule and don't skip a day of work.
1-2 hours is the minimum in my opinion.

4 hours should be standard for everyone who wants to accomplish something in a decent timely manner.

[Anonymous No.2181022]

>>2180689
Zero progress, nothing, not even kidding.

Terrible result, I would feel like shit, you even got worse

[Anonymous No.2181024]

>>2181018
I don't agree

It's true that if you don't invest thousands of hours you won't git gud. But doing it without much idea on how to get better won't assure results. You have to be smart and have loads of EFFECTIVE hours

To say an extreme example, if you spend 4 hours a day for 4 years drawing ponies, you'll be shit

If you spend half an hour a day for four years, every day doing a new investigation, be it gesture, live models, different coloring techniques, trying animation, sculpture, photography, and so, and actually challenge yourself and overcome, you'll become pretty fucking good, despite spending 1/8 of those hours. Even moreso, you'll learn how to improve by yourself even better

To git gud you need to reach your limits and overcome. Time is needed, but time is not enough, that's why there's so many guys spending 4+ years with extremely slow progress and some others with incredible progress in a matter of months

[Anonymous No.2181031]

>>2181022
Oh well, I already gave up on being a professional a long time ago anyway.

[Anonymous No.2181040]

>>2179850

In short:
Git gud

Long version:
What you really need is to make mileage, practice from references, on the subjects you have less experience in. Relearn and practice again from the things that benefit you and unlearn the things that don't.

For example I wanted to draw more semi-realistic eyes, at first I just drew realistic eyes from imagination but that obviously didn't get me anywhere, they were only symbols that try to represent realistic eyes (badly), as time progress I decided to look up on anything that looks similar for what I'm going for, things that represents realistic eyes, like doll eyes, artist that draw semi realistic eyes, actual eyes (from photo reference to anatomical graphs), the more resources and reference I have gain and draw from has given me some mileage.

But if you apply this to any subject to what you want to get better at you could be able to carve out your own signature style and get better over time.
The key is to practice a lot , it is an endless and continuos process if you want your art to grow over time, practice hard but also smart.

The imagination is limited compared to actual reference, but blindly copying from reference to the point it becomes a carbon copy, will make it boring and hold you back from working on imagination, just do both.

[Anonymous No.2181041]

>>2179563
You're the only person on /ic/ who's work I legitimately admire. mind sharing what your study schedule was like or tips that helped the most with improvement?

[Anonymous No.2181047]

>>2179801
Post art or fuck off. You sound like a beginner who has no idea what they're talking about and no experience with how learning actually works. Drawing and painting are more similar than they are different. there's nothing wrong with beginners trying to paint and what you're trying to say is a poisonous mentality to shove around. Of course people will study drawing fundamentals at the same time. They improve together when you paint you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.2181050]

I can't draw without references and everything I do draw looks flat. What is the progress you used to really get a hold on that illusion of 3d? I just need something more concrete to practice and work towards that will help me learn. I feel retarded, knowing I live in a 3d space but can't seem to understand how to emulate it and I feel it's the thing holding me back the most.

[Anonymous No.2181051]

>>2179563
Time to go die

Also >>2181041

[Anonymous No.2181063]

>>2181024
of course, I dont mean that x amount of hours spent stupidly result in good progress, but everyone knows this, some people are just too deluded or dont see art as a skill. Art is like a sport or any other thing, you need to gain knowledge and expertise, where you build muscle as a body builder you crunch out studies to help your brain to get on the right tracks. And so on and so forth, but I can tell you that 2 hours a day spent smart or even more than that will result in really fast and good progress, that is not a secret.

[Anonymous No.2181066]

>>2181012
Wut

[Anonymous No.2181068]

>>2181050
you'll have to force yourself to draw from imagination. It's going to suck and your ego will most likely take a hit, but you're never going to make progress until you do. It's okay to suck. You don't have to show your suckiness to anyone, you just have to get past it.

To think in 3D space, you have to observe 3D space. Constantly examine your environment and take note of how perspective interacts with everything around you. Study atmospheric perspective. Use contour line. Break down everything into basic shapes (cylinders, spheres, cubes, pyramids, rectangles) and learn how all of those shapes change with distance and perspective.

If you do this enough without relying on reference, you will improve.

[Anonymous No.2181082]

>>2181066
I think your edges are missing, too soft brush

[Anonymous No.2181154]

>>2180727
Of course you have to be very good to make it big and be famous. I'm saying there are a lot of people out there who still manage to find work even though they aren't "the best of the best."
I went to Barnes and Noble a few weeks ago and flipped through the graphic novels, and honestly I was really not impressed with about half of them.

[Anonymous No.2181162]

>>2179270
>>2179155
>now get back to studying
Aye aye captain!

[Anonymous No.2181246]

>>2180673
Thanks for the advice anon. I guess I'm just expecting too much too soon. But it is frustrating to have certain ideas but have it come out as something ridiculous. I'll try what you've suggested.

[Anonymous No.2181405]

[Anonymous No.2181413]

>>2177765
Better than 90% of art here guaranteed,

[Anonymous No.2181414]

>>2179563
H-Hax...

[Anonymous No.2181429]

>>2179563
I saw you streaming the last painting. nice.

[Anonymous No.2181448]

>>2180594
thank goodness I'm 3 months off

working through gurneys light and color, any other material I should go through and focus more heavily on? creating more of an environment in my work?

[Anonymous No.2181469]

>>2177947
Solid work, but you could probably work on your city debris, in the drawings with giant women breaking cities the debris looks like overflowing water.

[Anonymous No.2181484]

>>2180501
Your comic scares me and confuses me.

[Anonymous No.2181485]

>>2181022
Except his colors aren't as muddy. There's more detail, he's learning how to paint a bit better and there's obvious progress. Stop self projecting, damn.

[Anonymous No.2181496]

5 years of compositionless fanart plateauing. At least these kind of posts make me feel bad enough to get some real work in for a few minutes until I wander off to go render more crap on tumblr.

So thanks for the motivation I guess.

[Anonymous No.2181547]

>>2179982
I think 2011 looks better, but continue to improve your skill

[Anonymous No.2181553]

>>2180596
People like you are the reason /ic/ is such shit. Not everyone has to paint like Ruan Jia or Jamie Jones to be "good". That artist's stuff is fine for what it intends to be.

[Anonymous No.2181559]

>>2180242
Have you had a 14th birthday yet, by any chance?

[Anonymous No.2181577]

>>2177410
If you are able to animate what you did from 2013 onward and do it somewhat fast, I might have a job for you.

[Anonymous No.2181671]

>>2181405
pls. I'm trying not to become a furry here.

[Anonymous No.2181804]

>>2181553
I chose Ruan Jia because he is like the god of the plebs here, there are way better artists, especially dead ones, compared to him.
15 years is enough time to get someone in the league of old masters if he is smart and dedicated, that image shows nothing that would justify 15 years.

Sorry to pop your bubble kid.

[Anonymous No.2181809]

>>2181047
>show your art
No you go first fuck face, what would put your opinion above mine? I think that most of those
>I AM A STRONG INDEPENDENT ARTIST WHO DONT NEED NO PEN OR LOOMIS
Guys are mostly polishing turds, which doesn't help them with anything except for polishing. There are millions of those out there and believe me, if they, for one second even tried to study a human body they would fail without doubt, because they have never actually worked on drawing, on lines, on anatomy and construction because that's "for suckers" who have no style o their own and can't even make fan art.

Fuck off, you must be one of those guys, all of those guys who shout around "show your art" are just faggy little no show losers who are mediocre at best, and if someone delivers you all get salty as fuck and try to downplay it.

[Anonymous No.2181813]

>>2181485
Lol, I don't even know which one of those is the before and what is after, that Is how bad he is.

I drew better than that when I was 13.

[Anonymous No.2181816]

>>2181553
To add to that, his intentions are >vidya fanart
Please, tell me how good he is compared to others who do the same shit, there are plenty of guys around who do vidya concept art and fan art, who were better than that in 5 years.

[Anonymous No.2181993]

Help me.

[Anonymous No.2182038]

[Anonymous No.2182256]

Goddang

>>2179574
Well I guess, I've done some stuff for Poxnora and just got into the artist database for FFG. I'm no where near being able to live off my art though.

>>2179664
Oh yeah, it was actually kind of a study of pic related that went cray

>>2180039
Yeah, looking back it seems like something just clicked during the summer of 2013. That summer I had the biggest jump in skill so far, I think mostly due to putting in crazy amounts of time, and not doing strictly grayscale to color. Also being extremely observant and just studying everything around you and reverse engineering how light plays on objects. You can seriously improve by doing this diligently and not even putting pen to pad.

>>2180841
alexbrockart.com has links to all my blogz

>>2181041
I mentioned above the summer of 2013 was probably the best. I just had a part time job at Target and no homework. I spent all the time I wasn't fucking around/partying/playing vidya/sleeping or working, drawing. Right now I just finished school and have no job or schedule whatsoever, and I've found it much harder to be productive. I think having some amount of structure and constrictions on time and resources really helps you prioritize and get stuff done. As for more technical stuff, I never really did studies (you should still do them tho!!), I would just get an awesome idea, then when I got stuck I'd grab some reference and basically do dozens of little studies within the piece.

Hope that helps, and thanks guys. Dunno why I'm still here. You may not see me, but I'm always lurking...

Also some awesome resources: This is pretty much all I listen to when drawing
seanwes.com/podcast
One Fantastic Week Podcast
The Collective Podcast

[Anonymous No.2182260]

>>2182256
Also my deviantart (frrruuussstraation.devianart.com) probably has the best documentation/progress of almost everything I've ever done up until maybe this last year..

[Anonymous No.2182381]

>>2180777
definitely less cartoony, but really muddy, you should try cleaning up the edges a little

[Anonymous No.2182615]

>>2180689
two years..i mean... hey, you're still going!..stop using a white canvas..

[Anonymous No.2183286]

>>2182615
Not that guy, but what sort of values/colors should a canvas be? I see a lot of people using greys but I can't quite figure what purpose it serves just yet.

[Anonymous No.2183492]

>>2183286
it can be anything, just not white, its so that your eyes don't strain plush it fucks with your values, i know people who use sycras paper texture and people who draw in a violet canvas its up to you but don't use white.

[Anonymous No.2184228]

Shit, I seriously need to learn how hands work. And arms. Srsly, look at Jasper's arm, how did I not notice that?

[Anonymous No.2185067]

>>2184228
>I seriously need to learn how hands work
It kinda looks like you need a lot more than that, friendo. Have you met our lord and savior, Fundies?