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>Pixiv/dlsite/fantia buckling to western politicians demands to censor art
>Twitter following right behind

Where do we go? Where can we go?

>> No.7143250

extinct?

>> No.7143251

Looks like you're going to have to work the streets.

>> No.7143252

>>7143243
just dont draw porn?
seems easy enough no?

>> No.7143253

Coom isn't art.

>> No.7143258

>>7143243
>people seriously believe that this will be enough to stop degenerate coomers

>> No.7143265

>>7143258
Who thinks that? Though it is evidently an issue, hence this thread. But it’s best to push out and remove the worst parts of society.

>> No.7143269

>>7143253
Erotica is the essence of art.

>> No.7143272

>>7143269
Erotica is the essence of shooting strings of cum, Jackson pollock ass mf

>> No.7143273

>>7143272
And this is why you will always be a braindead amateur who crab grabs others.

>> No.7143275

>>7143273
Alteast I spend my time doing something and not wasting time jorking it 4 times a day contributing nothing but adding more cum to the waste management system

>> No.7143278

>>7143243
coomers need to be wiped out
shrimple as

>> No.7143304

>>7143252
>>7143253
>>7143278
Freedom of speech absolutionists when they see something they don't like

>> No.7143305

>>7143304
Hey, it isn't against their principles if you're dead and therefore have no speech to infringe.

>> No.7143306

>>7143269
Is erotica the same thing as pornography? And if not who decides what's erotica and what's porn?

>> No.7143307

>>7143304
coomers when told they're a waste of biology

>> No.7143317

>>7143307
The next in line for censorship will be you, that if, you actually draw or create something in your worthless life. Now go crab somewhere else.

>> No.7143328

>>7143317
>rrr I'm so vitriolic why is gooning to disgusting porn frowned down upon I'm so angry rrr
Don't jerk off for a week, you'll feel a lot better

>> No.7143329

should have stood up for kiwi farms and stormfront when you had the chance, those were the first people to get fucked with by the banks, this is just a '
"And then they came for me" moment.

>> No.7143330
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>>7143317
They might come for me but you'll never cum again.

>> No.7143331

>>7143329
By the banks? I thought kiwifarms was getting fucked by isps and cloudflare. But yes this type of thing will affect 4chan considering more than half the site is fucking porn

>> No.7143361

>>7143243
Payoneer and cash.
The government will force them to accept us back when they realize how much money is no longer leaving a digital footprint they can trace easily to make us pay taxes.

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>>7143306
It's not. Erotic imagery makes your mind jump to sex but it still doesn't explicitly show people having sex which is the definition of pornography.

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>>7143243
>platforms & payment processors suppressing artistic freedom
>what now?
it's time

>> No.7143483

>>7143252
just die

>> No.7143541

>>7143243
>Pixiv
Pixiv just blocked its R-18 to US and UK residents. It's doing ok.
>DLsite
They banned Visa, MasterCard and AmEx because they wanted the site to ban a lot of stuff. It's doing ok.

>Where do we go?
Either the americans and the british stop being faggots and fight back against their progressive neo-puritan overlords, or japanese and anime sties will have to keep banning their payment processors. Or, you know, buy DLsite points, use VPNs and ultimately proxies (e.g. buying points or credit from third parties who can directly buy them).

>What would be an alternative to allow people from cucked countries to buy stuff again?
To have MORE payment processors (so that websites don't have to depend as much on cucked ones) and MORE payment methods and options to REPLACE Visa, MasterCard and AmEx.

>> No.7143552

With an already-establish patreon following of hundreds, at this point, what does it even matter?
I make mildly nsfw stuff, just as a hobby, and everyone everywhere is too scared of it to engage if there's even a little bit of cleavage showing or, god forbid, a bare ankle.
Honestly, if anyone knows of an internet community that isn't infested with neo-puritans, I would love to know about it.

>> No.7143555

>>7143552
Without and establish patreon*
Goddamnit

>> No.7143556

>>7143541
>its R-18 section
Fix'd

>> No.7143585

>>7143541
>Where do we go?
Ban nsfw on twitter

>> No.7143603

>>7143585
On the contrary, keep allowing NSFW on Twitter.
Kill all puritans.

>> No.7143730

>>7143317
>seething coomer thinks people are going to ban generic knights and elves fighting generic dragons
lol seethe harder fagtron
besides there are millions of other things you could draw but you waste your pathetic existence on porn like the fuming subhuman that you are
cope
sneethe
get that ass banned

>> No.7143736

>>7143329
Kiwifarms is not only still up, but the fags on there support doxing over artistic freedom.

>> No.7143766

>>7143243
Jews run both banking and love to push pornography so i can't understand why they are taking a stance against this.... curious

>> No.7143773

>>7143541
Bullish for crypto

>> No.7143776

>>7143766
They push real pornography, not drawn pornography. All of the major porn industry giants are owned by Jewish businesses.
Individual artists, just like amateur porn stars, are being pushed out to make way for corporatization. Coom artists are basically amateur porn stars, these companies don't want them working for themselves, they want them working through their system. It's why porn platforms algorithmically favor and push Jewish owned porn studio work while burying amateurs and independent models.

>> No.7143780

>>7143406
that’s a small banana

>>7143603
>Kill all puritans.
Seems a bit puritanical

>> No.7143784

They don't care about nsfw art. Real life porn is the problem.

>> No.7143795

>>7143776
>Coom artists are basically amateur porn stars
I know 3 ladies that draw nsfw art on Patreon and have an Onlyfans so that check out.

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>>7143552
This shit pisses me off even more because I don't make any money, probably never will, and I'm still forced to give a fuck about what MasterCard thinks.

Imagine you drew fanart of some obscure Anime character and of all people who could take issue you got a C&D by Epic games because there are rumours about them being in fortnite by 2029 and you might lose them 8 V-bucks, that's the scale of retarded overreach I'm perceiving.

>> No.7143808

>>7143780
It's self-defense at this point.
They could just stay in their puritan corner and enjoy their Ned Flanders or Anti-Porn Progressive utopia while us degens stay in our own, but no. They have to censor our shit instead of just ignoring it.

If you don't like porn, don't buy it/watch it. It's that simple.

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>if you don't want me to spam porn in public you must hate freedom of speech
Your freedom of porn addiction shouldn't trample my freedom of not wanting to see porn everywhere.
>..... and if you don't want to see porn everywhere you must be a puritan and hate sex and minorities... just close your eyes lol lmao
This is exactly why kids should not be allowed to be on the internet.

>> No.7143815

>>7143810
Can you imagine if their pornographic "free speech" mentality was normalized in meatspace?
There are laws that prevent billboards and stores from displaying nudity and sex acts because people genuinely just don't want to see it everywhere.
It has its place, and that place is not in public.
Why the fuck should porn be sprayed everywhere in virtually every online public space?

What these guys really want is exposure. That's it. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech, that's just an excuse. What they really are bemoaning is the fact that they can no longer wave their dicks in the public square since they think "fewer people will engage" with them.

>> No.7143818

>>7143810
>if you don't want me to spam porn in public
Where did that happen?

People's Twitter/X's pages aren't a public space, they're the private pages of people that you can choose to follow or not (and you can even block them from your sight if you want).
If your feed has porn is because Twitter's algorithm recommended it to you based on YOUR OWN browsing habits and whose accounts YOU follow.

>> No.7143823

>>7143815
>It has its place, and that place is not in public
Yes. Good thing internet sites are not public spaces.

>> No.7143826

>>7143818
>searches for anime illustrations on twitter
>softcore porn
>porn
>softcore porn
>porn
>porn
>cosplay porn
>porn

>go to any fandom subreddit or any place online in general
>porn of characters
>softcore porn of characters
>porn
>cosplay porn

Compare to the average bookstore. You aren't forced to look at porn when you're browsing art books.

Porn has gone from background radiation online to the front fucking page of everything. It doesn't even mean anything anymore it's so over abundant. What am I just supposed to browse the internet with my eyes closed?

>> No.7143829

>>7143823
The internet is a public space, you absolute fucking coom addled retard.
Kids can access this shit MORE EASILY than they can access most actual public spaces.
It's easier for a five year old child to "incidentally see" hardcore pornography online than it is for them to find it anywhere in a public space.
You are a groomer. You want kids to see this shit because you're passing on your own disease to a new generation. You are the scum of the earth.

>> No.7143830

>>7143815
Pretty much.
The ultimate from of the degenerate is the "exhibitionist". They need to expose and groom others to their fetishes because it validates them and they will come up with any excuse to do that like 7143818
>UUUHM TWITTER PROFILES ARE PRIVATE SWEAR ON ME MUM IF YOU SEE PORN GUESS ITS AN ALGORITHM ISSUE LOL LMAO
Ok, set your tweets to private then?
What your tweets is getting shared and being pushed by the algorithm? No way, it must be an algorithm issue.

You just cannot criticize porn, because even if you're objectively correct,.... you just aren't lmao

This absolute retardation and mental illness is why internet ID verification will become a thing with the excuse of filtering out russian and chinese spies and bad actors.
I wouldn't be surprised if this porn push and damage control whenever someone points out how porn is everywhere, is done by foreign shills.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BLjIUbzMeV8

>> No.7143832

>>7143243
People get mad at me for being pro crypto but it is objectively a solution to this problem.

Unfortunately most artists are insufferable sjws and would rather follow a smug breadtuber than actually considering alternatives

>> No.7143838

>>7143832
How do I use crypto when my clients use Paypal?

>> No.7143841

>>7143243
So from what I'm getting Pixiv is only banning porn on US/UK? Shit is really getting grim.

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>>7143810
>>7143815
>>7143829
>>7143830
First conservatives are like, "You gotta work hard and make your own money," but then they're like, "reeeeeeeeee you're not making money they way I want you to, stop it! Stop it! Stop it!"

So anyway, Trump lost and thanks to your horny fourteen year old for supporting my drug habit.

>> No.7143846

>>7143838
That’s the issue. Crypto needs more use cases to attain more adoption. Nsfw art should be a huge use case for crypto but a combination of politics and ignorance won’t allow it.

In my case I just leave the option open in my commission document, i’ve only received 6-7 crypto commissions unfortunately

>> No.7143848

>>7143818
Same with porn websites.

If you choose to enter a private website that is expressely NSFW and can have porn you can't complain when NSFW and porn stuff is posted.
Pixiv, DLsite, Fantia, etc are not a public space and you have to AGREE YOURSELF to enter their 18+ sections after being informed that they've porn.

>>7143826
You won't see porn unless you click Show on the sensitive content button.
>softcore porn
Not really porn.

>go to any fandom subreddit or any place online in general
Only if they allow NSFW material. Safebooru and Google Images (with the filter on by default) exist.

>Compare to the average bookstore. You aren't forced to look at porn when you're browsing art books.
Unless you go for the smut books section. You won't immediately notice it since smut literature is aimed at women but it's there.

>> No.7143850

>>7143275
They don't cum into toilets or trash cans, you retard. They just blow their loads onto the bottoms of their desks and let them turn into hard yellow stalagmites.
It would be a mercy if they actually disposed of their cum properly, their rooms wouldn't reek and they would smell better in public.

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7143808
>while us degens stay in our own
7143843
>politics out of nowhere

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7143855

>everyone that is pro-porn argues exactly like a mentally ill unironical shill trying to do legit psyops as in just hurling insults, branding the opposition as "le bad politics", lying and gaslighting

You just know

>> No.7143858

>>7143829
>The internet is a public space
The fuck it is. They're private websites.

It's not the internet's job to raise kids. It's the PARENTS responsibility to teach them what to do, what not do to and what places to avoid.

>> No.7143861

>all these newfags who don't know this website used to proudly host lolicon and guro art
American politics and women who live to impress males were a mistake

>> No.7143864

>"ban kids from the internet"
>NOOOO ITS THE PARENTS FAULT
>"only allow adult content on adult sites that require genuine age verification"
>NOOOOO WHY DO YOU HATE PORN
>"public platforms anyone can easily access and allows users at a age of 13+ to join, shouldn't be overrun with adult content"
>NOOOOO WHY DO YOU HATE PORN SO MUCH ITS THE PARENTS FAULT
>adult content should only be on adult sites
>NOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAH WHY DO YOU HATE PORN SO MUCH FUCKING PURITAN TRUMP LOST CHUDDY ARE U MAD
this isn't even a good troll, it's just mental illness

>> No.7143865

>>7143861
Anon, remind me which board got deleted in 2003 due to users uploading cheesepizza

>> No.7143867

>>7143829
>>7143830
It's always funny seeing people, on 4chan and in a red board nonetheless, arguing in favor of turning the internet kid friendly and censoring everything. Maybe, just maybe, parents shouldn't let their kids use the internet unsupervised? Or are you also in favor of also making every movie, book, any piece of media available on the internet, every image boards and social media, kid friendly? No more blood, violence, racism, guns, uncovered ankles and so on, or the poor children might get traumatized.

>> No.7143868

>>7143864
>"only allow adult content on adult sites that require genuine age verification"
Then as soon there's a leak/a site gets hacked said adults get doxxed and fired from their jobs for liking the """"""wrong"""""" kind of adult content according to HR Karens even if it's entirely legal.

>> No.7143875

>>7143864
educating children about the risks of the internet, their parents supervising them, and the creation of properly run adult communities on the internet, with anonymity and the possibility to build a following, while treating porn as a normal form of entertainment exclusive to people, would solve things, but that requires common sense. Instead, what we're getting is the internet becoming more and more sanitized and censored, like YouTube, that despite YouTube kids existing, the normal website is still treated like the kids version to avoid backlash and losing advertisers, and you can't even fucking swear in your videos anymore.

>> No.7143882

>>7143868
And now imagine this with the SFW part of the internet.
Right Wingers and Conservatives would be immediatly blacklisted forever for their opinions even if they didn't watch porn (which they do, just like every man).

You better be careful with what you wish for. Digital IDs for internet access WILL be abused by the current government to witch hunt its opposition.

>> No.7143885

>>7143867
>Or are you also in favor of also making every movie, book, any piece of media available on the internet, every image boards and social media, kid friendly? No more blood, violence, racism, guns, uncovered ankles and so on, or the poor children might get traumatized.
Disingenious argument from a disingenous piece of shit. I'm all in favor of seeing your blood, though.

Children should not be allowed to see hardcore pornography. It's just that simple. The parents are no longer able to control their children's internet access because the tech companies have shoved this shit so far down the world's throat that it's as inescapable as any other space now.
The game changes and the rules need to change to adapt to them. It's that simple. A parent cannot feasibly supervise their child 24/7 while working 2 jobs. Teachers can't even supervise kids at school, they have hours and hours unaccounted for to stare mindlessly into their phones and browse porn.
The average age that kids get hooked on porn today is eleven. If you think this is a good thing, you are a subhuman tranny and there is no hope for you. You are mentally ill beyond repair, and your only goal is to drag us all down with you.
We fucking refuse. Die alone.

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>>7143867
7143868
7143868
7143875
>pls reply r u trolled yet hehe lmao the drug dealer cant say that drugs are bad because... they just cant ok? fucking puritan bigots what if we get doxxed? we should just allow porn on sites where minors can log in and see because---- hmm fuck you!
You read this shit once, you read them all

>> No.7143888

>>7143882
Funny how it's never about the children in the end, it's just a way to find how to control your citizens more

>> No.7143890

>>7143882
It'll be worth it to see coom artists neck themselves enmasse.

Finally clean the art world of this fetid stain.

>> No.7143894

>>7143888
Governments love to use the "Think of the children" or "Muh Patriotism" to pass bills that fuck their population.

>>7143890
It's all fun and games until the govt expands its usage to all internet and you are forced into homelessness for saying something politically incorrect or that goes against the official narrative.

>> No.7143897

>>7143278
Move to China, freedom hating bugman.

>> No.7143898

>>7143885
you don't want kids to see porn, and I don't want them to also see gore either, and any form of violence, or hear swearwords, so now I want everything on the Internet to be cleaned accordingly, this place included, because I don't want to bother checking on what my own son is doing

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7143899

>coomers do nothing but gaslight and lie
>yo wtf fucking puritan conservatives why do they hate us so? OH I KNOW it's because they want to fuck spiders and hate freedom!!!
pic related is what freedom of coom allows

>> No.7143901

>>7143890
"Sorry, it seems you've posted a message against gender reaffirming surgeries for 3yos. Your credit score is now -1000. You're now prohibited from having a bank account or getting a job again".

>> No.7143902

>>7143894
>It's all fun and games until the govt expands its usage to all internet and you are forced into homelessness for saying something politically incorrect or that goes against the official narrative.
A doomer mindset.

>We can make things better if we just--
>BUT THINK OF HOW BAD IT *COULD* GET. LET'S IGNORE THE PROBLEM ENTIRELY.

You want kids looking at porn. That's all it is. You did the same when you were younger, and now you want to pass the mind virus on to the next generation.
Freaks like you deserve the gas chamber.

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>WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM SO MUCH? TWITTER IS A PRIVATE PLACE AND IF MY PORN TWEETS GET SHARED AND GET PUSHED BY THE ALGORITHM JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES?
Coomers splooged in their own plate and now seethe that they get to slurp up their own cum

>> No.7143905

>>7143885
>My kid could potentially die under a truck just because he was roaming a public space! This is unacceptable, we must ban all vehicles from using the road right now! If you disagree you just want innocent kids to die under a car, do you even know the average number of children getting hit by cars? You murderer.

>> No.7143907

>>7143864
>ban kids from the internet
I want to support this but it sort of feels like how baby boomers pulled up the ladder of success when they got rich in a "Fuck you I got mine", just now it's millennials and gen X. very few people here accessed the internet first when they were an adults, they were kids or teens.

>> No.7143908

>>7143902
>A doomer mindset
A REALISTIC mindset.
China has a social credit score right now and Biden and the Democrafts CAN'T WAIT to have their own version of that in the US.

>b-but I live in Europe
It's the same for the EU and UK, retard.
"Progressive" governments LOVE totalitarianism just as much as the hard right, they just want to be the ones stepping on your neck.
Don't give them the tools, retard.

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>As a parent, i will not allow my children to use the internet
>OMG U FUCKING BOOMER
see? you just can't argue with these straight up unironical groomers

>> No.7143916

>>7143905
Completely disingenuous. There are in fact already rules in place that prevent kids from getting hit by trucks in public spaces. Before there were rules, there were badly organized roads, no warning signs, little public awareness, and cars did routinely run over civilians. Now, with engineering and planning, most of those accidents have been averted. The parent barely even needs to tell their kid how to avoid cars now, they just fucking tell them "stay on the sidewalk."

This is the same thing with the public internet space. We're still laying the groundwork to make it functional and healthy. We're building sidewalks. Sorry, cowboy. Your era is coming to an end (and good riddance to the lot of you.)

The future internet will be one where children do not have access to your shitty drawings. Boo hoo. Cry more.

>> No.7143920

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xETgrsxMgI

btw this is also what """freedom of speech""" generates
>a bunch of kids groomed by furries and allowed to be mentally ill in public
Are these kids puritan albino schizo nazi jews as well because they INSTINCTUALLY know this shit doesn't belong in public?

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the pro-porn trannies here are autistic yifffags as well