/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7075925
oh my god, nigga GOOSEb got the OP.

>>7075925
From last thread.

Using the cognitive drawing technique from Jason Brubaker that redline anon recommended. Find it interesting that you get instant feedback and long term memory of the little details, but I'm still finding it hard to get the proportions right. I keep drawing wide and the angle feels off... Also I forgot to finish the damn hat. How many attempts should I give this before trying something else do you think? What other mistakes am I not seeing?

I’m not going to be drawing in this thread, either.

I've never used the sexy beautiful women board but I finally have a practical use: hot models to use as references/practice
no worries of being eye offended by some old or obese ladies in regular pose sites

Today's wacky pose.

what kind of skirt would look best for this kind of outfit?

>>7075967
seems like a waste to practice memory drawings if what you're committing to memory is wrong
first improve your observation/accuracy

>>7075983
What would you recommend? Grid drawings?

>>7075925
I was wondering if the different objects in the composition(cliffsides, plants, trees, leaves, the figures in the center, etc.) are easy to identify just with the textures I used, or if I do need to add value and keep the linework in order for the forms of each object to be recognizable.

>>7075993
the grass is recognisable, the cliffside or whatever looks kind of abstract

>>7075925
Where can I masturbate to more of this anon's work?
>>7074567
>>7075394
Watashi ni ataete kudasai.

Can I start studying art now after reading keys to drawing?

how the fuck do you draw an appealing butt.
Theres something off about it. I can't really tell what.
The right side just looks, not as good.

>>7076014
Nice.

>>7076014

>>7076014
left cheek looks bigger

>>7075925
>my study got into the op
nevermind im no longer ngmi, we're so back

>>7075925
my gobbo made it in, yippee.

>>7075993
just my personal beg opinion, but if you show the battle from this side, mayhaps i would zoom in and detail the clothing of the gentleman. and on another, zoomed out photo show the viewer that the two dues are engaging in life or death battle in a serene landscape of the nature, as if I am calmly observing the incoming bloodbath from the branches of an old tree.

Sup beg, i failed to draw yesterday. It is over.

>>7076014
step 1: read keys to drawing, then perspective made easy
step 2: realize the cheek further away must be foreshortened
step 3: draw from reference
>>7076009
i like how you are implying KtD isnt about studying art. anyway yes, you can. there are no rules, only tools and fools
>>7076001
cute
>>7075987
keys to drawing is all about the observation gains (plus fundies)
>>7075930
cute anime thot

how do i get a girlfriend with my drawings.

>>7076031
all that gooning paid off!

>>7075972
keep em coming king

some fwaps

>>7076031
How did my OC made it in the OP when it was posted almost as the previous thread dying?

>>7075972
Last thread's cool drawings

>>7076014
you need feel ze forms sweaty, and also learn anatomy

>>7076078
>>7076029
>>7076022
Thank you kindly.

>>7076078
pussy looks weird

>>7075972
What a hard pose!
>>7076044
Don't give advice my dude.
>>7076060
I like the buff one.
>>7076068
Ooh that one is mine.

Could anybody tell me how I’m getting on with this?

>>7076044

Hips and stuff look okay?

>>7075972
maybe I should have tried this sober

>>7075972
nice boobs miss

I've been drawing for 14 days straight now and I think that I have fun, but I know there's going to be a time where I have to study another fucking artist, or read a Loomis book. I already know perspective because I read perspective made easy but I don't know advanced perspective even though I have how to draw by Scott Robertson.

so the general question is when is it time to study? I know it's going to happen eventually but when that's really it

I retried it

>>7076205
>so the general question is when is it time to study?
when you notice something is consistently off in your drawings, and want to improve it
>I've been drawing for 14 days
I'd wait a couple of months, until drawing becomes a habit

>>7076044
Hello pawell, as someone who used to study and recommend vilppu a lot, I have some thoughts for you

First thing is the actual exercises of drawing beans, boxes, beans + boxes, ellipses... I feel like these exercises are more important than actually copying the drawings in his book. It might be heresy, but I feel like Vilppu's drawings are kind of ugly and wobbly, and it might not be a good source for learning, if that's what you're going for.

I remember getting an entire clean ream of printer paper, and finishing the whole thing, doing only beans on it. My dexterity and ability to put down lines at literally any length and angle improved so much from that. I feel like if you actually want to learn from vilppu, that could be one of the most beneficial things to do.

The second thing is that doing vilppu requires knowing proportions. I know your favorite book is keys to drawing, but I don't think you can draw references accurately enough yet. Working on the skill of measuring angles and proportions and plumb lines, continuing to drill this sense of observation, would be really beneficial for you.

I used to shill Vilppu a lot, but really, I kinda don't like him anymore. The several years I studied Vilppu, resulted in a very long plateau for my own growth. I only started improving again, after ~5-6 of aimlessly drawing, was when I started the masters studies thread and started making exact copies. Yes, even after all these years of drawing, I found out I still sucked at observation. Even now, I still suck, and most artists should continue working on observation, even if they think they're good at it. When I do an exact copy of an anime head, it takes me more than 30 minutes, to get it right. I think, spending that long on a single copy, trying to get it perfect, is the best thing you can do to improve.

(I would appreciate if you didn't paste this on your website btw. i just want to help)

>>7075972
AAAAAAAAA

doing finger doodles on my phone while watching TV.

>>7075972

>>7076121
stop chiken scratching faggot

>>7076209
thanks bro. Is this the time where you say PYW?

>>7076218
The first one to get the proportion right, especially the head. Really hard pose.

>>7076221
most of artists will stop doing it when they get more confident. He's a beginner, and those are searching lines though.

>>7076060
That picture is so Italian my blood turned to tomato sauce

>>7076222
if you think I'm crabbing then you're free to tell me that
but I don't mind posting my work >>7071949 , flawed as it is

If you found a reference of a person you wanted to use but the reference was wearing clothing much different than the character you're trying to draw, should you do? Use the ref anyway and try to draw the type of clothing you want over it or just find a different reference?

>>7076208
redo the face 37 more times

>>7076224
>and those are searching lines though.
based gigabeg

>>7076234
nah I don't care I was just wondering if you forgot to say "PWY" (usually a lot of people do that >_>) I don't think you're crabbing at all and I appreciate your advice. I don't know how to link replies from last threads, but I'm the day 14 guy in the progress thread. You could probably find my image in the thread if you scroll enough.

>>7076247 (me)
I also kneel to your work

>>7076244
pyw nigger

how do i stop myself from feeling mad at myself when i dont draw? like sometimes ill be into something else, suddenly its sleep time and i end up pissed off at myself the entire next day

:]

give me your thoughts

>>7076261
what's with the black shit on her cheeks

>>7076262
i probably incorrectly interpreted the reference. it's a guys OC.

>>7076263
I think that's some kind of blush? not sure. also just noticed you missed a bit of the hair

>>7076264
SHIT ill fix that lol

>>7076259

Something turbo fucked besides the face?
Also, are the lines following the breasts properly?

What motivates crabs?

>>7076268
I don't think sweater fabric works like that, face makes her look kinda chubby

>>7076270
there are no crabs, only bad artists allergic to criticism

>>7076259
>boobs eating into the ribs and lats muscles
Boobs do not work like that
Source: I watch a lot of porn.

What kind of jetpen mechanical pencil do i need to make things work?

>>7076268

>>7076270
tough love

>>7075976

>>7076223
I think some parts are still off..
Very hard indeed
it's good tho, u learn more when u push yrself

>>7075925
not sure if it's the correct place to ask but:
what's a good drawing app for Android phones? I'd like to sketch while on the bus and stuff. the ones I looked into were Medibang paint and Au*desk Sketchbook
pic unrelated

>>7076303
what’s wrong with autodesk sketchbook?

>>7076307
not a fan of their datamining but most apps will do that I guess
do you have any favorites?

Now it all makes sense, can't believe it took this long for me to fully grasp perspective until I just randomly studied it again. Then again I don't actually draw that often unless I'm bored.

>>7075972
Requesting crits (It took ~20 mins)

>>7075972
This uses 4th perspective btw.

>>7076273
I knew it was silly but did it anyway. :]

>>7076314
>(It took ~20 mins)
time it takes makes no difference
for example, if you had taken more time to set up the perspective correctly it would be better

>>7076303
>what's a good drawing app for Android phones?
medibang paint has a mobile app, its like a paint tool sai cousin, has everything you need to draw and paint without much bloat

>>7076291
>Boob pockets
Is it bad?

>>7076314
spend more than 20 minutes

is this less silly? :)

>>7076272
>t. crab

>>7076352
>>7076328
>less silly
Yup blue ballpoint pen anon :)

>>7075644
>feel ze forms study ze forms, learn ze forms, use ze forms, using manequins is only for NGMI's

Damn you're good, how do I start with learning this ? vilppu manual ?

>>7076311
I don't understand this , in one point usually all horizontal lines would be towards that pt but your walls are diverging but still looks fine ? send video/explanation pls

This is my first time actually painting something in 2 years.

Parody of the leper virtue pose.

>>7075972
Quick and dirty

wip. getting tired of animu girls on white void so i tried this but it looks unappealing

>>7076427
I think it looks really pretty! Perhaps just making her react better to the environment will make it feel better, bouncelight from the blue flowers would certainly catch the edges of her case if not her leggings and white dress

Whats so wrong with the head? Can someone do a redline or something? I am so bothered that from a distance this looks so bizarre, and when I zoom in I can't see an issue, but I know its there because the small/thumbnail version of this image to me looks so off.

>>7076434
my thought it that the face is too sunken in to the head? Not enough forehead and not enough room between the left eye and the ear.

>>7076440
That already looks a lot better. Thank you! I will do that and also reduce that microcephaly hes got goin on

Bless you, anon o/\

>>7076441
>>7076434
>>7076440
cont.
How does this look? I also dont wanna be that ass and say this but: you'll have to excuse the neck because hes a ff14 elf and the males have creepy long necks like that. But what about the head for this ?

just a copy but I had fun

>>7076328

>>7076442
Already looks way better! No worries about the neck, the long slender neck fit the character even before you mentioned it. I figured it was some fantasy funny stuff. The one thing is maybe on the left side define the trapezius a bit more? That's honestly the only thing I can think of that I am mixed about with this art now that the face is positioned properly :) great job!!

>>7076401
Looks like you shook the rust off pretty quickly

>>7076402
interesting hatch choice

>>7076442
nta but Nice fix, the neck doesn't jut forward anymore at that ever so slight angle/contour

>>7076427
Realy smooth rendering on her clothes, I'de add a cast shadow from her hand to her face when you render that area

>>7076328
honestly if it's a stylistic choice and not an unconscious mistake you should do it how you like, I'de say you're far better than anyone trying to crab and correct you in this thread at least.

>>7076273
>>7076449
Yup he's better than me, but I think my crit is very polite and on point.
He agree and correct it >>7076352
What make you think that this is crabbing?

>>7076449
>Looks like you shook the rust off pretty quickly
thank you!

>>7076428
thanks! maybe that's it. she looks disattached from the environment yet.
>>7076449
> I'd add a cast shadow from her hand to her face when you render that area
that's the idea but i'm not sure if I will nail the shadow lol

>>7076452
You aren't really crabbing
was referring to >>7076266
lol but both of you were funny with it so I wouldn't tell either of you to stop either, just gave my two cents

>>7076466
It's cool to see you draw guys in your style, don't think I've ever seen you do that, nice work, keep exploring new things it'll increase the visual library

working my way through bridgman memory copies and convinced ill never make it. this shit is fucking impossible to learn fuck it.

I haven't showered all week, but I've drawn everyday

>>7076479
Bridgman is for /int/. It's about learning Aesthetic not annatomy.
Proof:
https://youtu.be/FupeKX4NQsQ?si=bXtbRtdZosT4zh67
Only touch it when you feel the forms and have decent anatomy knowledge.

>>7076388
The 1, 2 and 3 point perspective is per object. You can have multiple objects in a scene and they can all have their own different vanishing points

Book: dong ho Kim - space drawing perspective

>>7076502
thx makes sense

>>7076388
>All horizontal lines
All PARALLEL lines my man.

I used Reilly method and put features on it as best I could. Improvable areas, things to study? I recognize the amateur vibes and flatness but why specifically?

>>7076512
>My name is Skyler White yo!

>>7076516

>>7076512
hair

Got a long way to go. I feel like proportions are my main issue right now - I always ending up making the legs too long. I should take more effort to properly measure the figure before moving on from the construction phase, maybe?

>>7076516
holy shit how did you get this good, teach me your ways onegaishimasu

>>7076516
>>7076466
>>7076443
>>7076402
>>7076401
>>7076352
>>7076218
>>7076182
>>7076169
Get the fuck out of /beg/.

>>7076541
Sir this is /beg/ & /int/

>>7075925
I got a couple questions
1. Did I shade with these genga colors correctly?
2. Does anyone have any tips for getting better at sketching? I couldn't even make a proper circle.

>>7076541
I will take this as a compliment

>>7075987
>Grid drawings?
No, timed drawings.
Just copy, BUT drawing with a short timer, and then stop.
That will force you to pay attention to line economy, improving observation skills, line accuracy, and most importantly, to stop drawing and "complete" your pieces even if they aren't perfect.

>>7076401
#2

i know everything about this sucks but what are the big things that need to change? some red lines would be nice. sorry im really new.

>>7076579

>>7076579
>>7076590
basically there are so many mistakes, but I think its because you're diving off into the deep end. Try tracing some art you like and make notes of what you notice. Practice the parts you don't understand. Start with fundamentals.

>>7076243

>>7076579
it readable and works but very schematic . it not some big thing need to be changed but you learn more and observe more and be more structural about what you do but this is controversial

He's just a little guy

>>7076502
>>7076508
>>7076388
>>7076311
what the fuck? Thanks for the sharing this. I've been through all of perspective made easy and it didn't show this. Literally why?

>>7076427
add 6 gorillian of effects

>>7076637
cute
the cast shadow of the hand on the face reads more like a burn scar, so you might want to fiddle with that

>>7076616
mf thats a big guy right there

>>7076659
meat goes hard, nice job!!

bros..........
>>7076253
just think of it as a break, and resolve yourself to at least do some scribbles the next day (and actually follow through with it)

<over>

I draw lil guy

>>7076634
because it's a 90 yr old book retard kun

>>7076044
you are making me doubt ktd

/beg/ currently mainly going through Drawabox and liking it so far.
Would I be able to get something out of Loomis Drawing the Head & Hands already? Or is it a bit too soon still?

Quick and rough study
>>7076667
Good
Now draw what you really want to draw
>>7076674
Its never over..
>>7076443
Nice, I like it

Do the rest of you have other creative hobbies or is it just drawing?

>>7076253
Is this Krekkov's?

>>7076674
Practice drawing the hips connecting to the body and feet more. The shape of the soles and toes are rlly bad and unappetizing

Something new. Gonna post some warmups below. :3

>>7076692
thanks anon, your lines are so clean!

Not sure if NSFW warmups are allowed, but here goes.

>>7076722
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sketch
brainrot
was about to compliment you but forget it

>>7076729
It's not a sketch at all, I just name all my works as sketch(number).

>>7076726
Mods, can we ban this guy plz?
Thnx
….jokes aside you realize that people post full nude figures here as well as post shit outside of generals right? The Jannie’s don’t give a fuck

>>7076729
Lol imagine crabbing for filenames

Need some help with his left leg that is going back, also his right arm looks kinda out of proportion

I made an amateur sprite with amateur beam effect.

>>7076729
>>7076730

Here's the OG sketch for your viewing pleasure. It's super old, I just reworked the finalized product.

>>7076681
>I HATE SPHERES I HATE SPHERE I HATE SPHERE

>>7076722
Amazing line work.

Very much a beginner , working on anatomy and style. Enjoy?

>>7076737
I remeber your stuff who's it going?
Did you get a job somewhere?

>>7076753

Haha, nice. Going super well! Still no work, although I've only sent like 2 application since the last time we spoke (I think it's you, you always ask me if I've gotten any work xD). But yeah, drawing feels awesome. Finally put all my mental health issues into remission, so drawing consistently isn't that though anymore. Feels good man. How are you doing?`

Moar sketches.

>>7076748
Something feels off about that mid torso

Moar sketches.

>>7076692
i'm learning so i CAN do that you silly goose

>>7076759
Any idea what? Probably the ribcage having a weird angle reflecting the mid torso. If not do tell! Trying to improve!

>>7076735
sketch a side and overhead view, then draw it placing the feet first

>>7076735

practicing hands

>>7076695
I play guitar, another deadbeat hobby I have

>>7076270
Every force has an equal opposite force: for every beg attempting to escape the beg pit, there is a minimum of one crab attempting to push them back. For the vast majority of begs, the crab represents a "concept" that exists only in their own heads: weariness, doubts, laziness, low IQ, etc.

However, there are instances when a beg is so self-determined that their whole being gives birth to an actual distinct entity: their own personal crab, who follows them around endlessly while they attempt to escape this begpit.

One could argue that you aren't truly trying hard enough if you don't have your own crab pestering you!

>>7076809
whoa those are literally me..

>>7076757
>I think it's you, you always ask me if I've gotten any work xD
Hehe yeah
>Finally put all my mental health issues into remission
Based, yeah I've noticed too that your mental health and health in general plays a big part in drawing well and getting better at it!
I'm glad you're doing well I like your drawings.
>How are you doing?
Doing alright, picked up a course on unity so I can start putting my drawings in a game we'll see how that goes but it's a nice break from drawing all the time makes me happier to draw and to learn the unity thing.
Kinda the motivation I was looking for I think.

>>7076539

>>7076748

more hands

i had better days

wip of upcoming star rail character

>>7076851
Drop the airbrush for shading. Use a harder brush. You'll notice your mistakes right away and it will look better too when you do it right

I'm a beginner very new to drawing. I find drawing lines towards northeast and southwest(assuming north is towards the top of the page) quite comfortable and easy. However, drawing either north/south/northwest/southeast is really challenging as my elbow is not assisting in the motion at all. Is this something I simply have to practice or is it unreasonable to expect my line quality to be equal regardless of direction?

pic related is what i'm talking about with regards to directions

>>7076832
thats actually so good, could you redline mine for me?

>>7076855
i think it's natural i also have to reposition my arm and grip for some angles to draw it well

>>7076855
also yes i got E and W backwards dont make fun of me plz

>>7076854
to be honest i have enourmous problems with faces and portraits at all, airbrushed it just for fun. i guess i should spend next weeks just grinding portraits

>>7076855
that's normal, you can always rotate your drawing surface if you need to
that said, it's not a bad idea to practice lines from all angles, it can be useful when sketching, to avoid breaking your flow with canvas rotations

>>7076692
More studies, just having fun
Although next time I'll choose paper that isn't as thin and cheap

>>7076866
>>7076858
Makes sense. Whenever I see artists draw they do rotate a bunch and leverage their elbow. They avoid drawing vertical lines as much as possible without rotating.

>>7076855
>>7076860
never weed sea eat

I found this guide on here that looks cool and useful, but I'm curious, how do I know when i've passed a mastery level/gone up?

>>7076883
WTHAT GUY IS AFUCKING BEG LMAO

Top drawing 16 days ago
Bottom one i did 2 days
Improvement or just different approach?

>>7076890
Stop counting. Keep drawing. Experiment a lot.

>>7076890
画力アップしました!

>>7076857
im acc so braindead, brightness on my monitor was too high so didnt see the redline...

Why isn’t Pawell sticking to his thread?

>>7076890
Just did this one

>>7076900
Who is pawell?

>>7076449
Its because of the site i drew it in.

>>7076541
Where else can i go if not the beginner thread?

>>7076915
Pawell is from what i got some beg who draws and studies everyday with little to no progress for god knows how long and keeps getting trashed

>>7076919
I thought this specific thread was for beginners, why trashing on a beginner then?

>>7076935
you aren't free of criticsm just because you are beg, mexitard.

>>7076937
i hope pawell breaks through then if this is true, his dedication must be commendable.

>>7076911
I have erased the facial features beacuse i want to try and make then fit more person. I made his cheeks too round

wip

Anything that looks horribly off or wrong? Any criticism would be appreciated

>>7076871
Love the faces. I think the girl in the top right's shoulder and arm looks a bit weird to me, but i know arms behave weirdly when turned or in a forced position, so if you referenced it, it could be that and I could be wrong.

>>7076890
>>7076911
You are not going to see significant changes in a few weeks, progress is slow, however once months pass you'll start noticing big changes.

I would consider adding more shading since faces have a lot of intrincate bumps and details

>>7076853
Looks great to me. Doing that pose irl makes me think her right breast should be getting noticeably squished(and thats a good thing). But other than that, its a very good sketch.

>>7076835
Nice hands. Better than mine so I dont have much to say.

>>7076953
I have never drawn a horse but they say they are really hard, and since it looks good to me then, I kneel.

>>7076963
Thanks!
>Love the faces. I think the girl in the top right's shoulder and arm looks a bit weird to me
Yeah I mostly just focused on the head and face for this study, not so much for the arms and torso (they're basically just extra)

>>7076911
nose and eyes are okish, the lips flattens everything thats why you keep erasing the cheeks. You are drawing what you think lips are, do a small study on lips.

>>7075925
Started warming up with Vilppu’s exercise and it’s been tremendously helpful in helping me understand form. I never Genuinely wish I started this much earlier in my art journey

>>7076971
No problem, i'll do some lips before sleeping and tomorrow more before coming back to face

I take so long to make a fucking line art piece.
I do like 20-30 mins and then fuck around like 3 hours
help.

Been following vandruff's 2020 bridgeman bootcamp and in the 4th session from 10-40 minutes in (feel free to skip around for the general gist), he goes over one of the assignment and showcases some of the submissions:
https://youtu.be/8Gg_ofUz2Mw?t=616

After seeing them for myself, I realized my perspective skills are lacking; I feel like a have a basic idea of how to rotate and translate boxes, that I can use a box to map out the general placement of the pose, and I can use perpendicular slices to estimate the separation between the head, torso, and pelvis, but I still struggle in actually placing down the 3 shapes at the correct angles and positions. Does anyone know of any demonstration and/or resources for learning this, especially for checking correctness?

>>7076998
for not extreme perspectives
https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-Persp-Week-7-b8f258a5559d4d24ba6077869767b0af
learn to draw cube grid in mid-low distortion and then copy-paste blocks

>>7076078
>sea nigger at it again
Hisashiburi ne, SEA nigga.
Where can I masturbate to more of your work, sea nigga kun?

>>7076998
I’m sure you thought of this already but copying the picture you posted would be a great way to learn. Also just looking at /drawing references like picrel in extreme poses makes seeing the placement of the boxes much easier.

>>7076998
Also this website

https://openprocessing.org/sketch/128715/

Is great for learning how to draw a box in space. I also feel like you shouldn’t stress too much about making the angles 100% correct, just convincing. The more you do it the more you’ll understand how they should and should not look

>>7076963
pose looks stiff as fuck

>>7077019
>>7076963

....

>>7077003
>>7077011
>>7077017
thanks for the advice, I'll make sure to look at all of these

Sup beg

>>7076984
perfectionism is death of a drawer, but nobody can help if you dont pyw. personally i never had any issues with lines and even once i got praised for line confidence yet i never really trained it. i believe it simply comes with mileage
>>7076953
nice Don Quijote
>>7076883
trying to make guides like these with levels is autism. there is a good reason why books about observation or perspective or composition are 100+ pages, so when you try to sum it all up in a few pages it results in one big mess
>>7076871
cute thots
>>7076855
some drawers rotate the canvas a lot, some never do. less overthinking, more drawing
>>7076853
booba
>>7076736
before PYW resize your pixel art to like 1000pixels width with linear filter/nearest neighbor (to preserve the pixels sharp), like this it is unviewable on the web
>>7076726
booba
>>7076722
pro
>>7076616
>when the background is more visually interesting than the foreground
take your background layer, set it to funny mode like hard light and then put it on top and play with opacity. it will give the bug crazy texture on top of him
>>7076528
keeping proportions is nonstop annoyance: you either need to remember that leg is 3 heads tall or working with ref and nonstop compare
>>7076479
welcome to my world (of pain), except i suffer vilppu at the moment
>>7076303
krita, Paintstorm Studio
>>7076128
kek, it is prebeg. though the eyes placement isnt bad, the line is curved + angled, the ear placement is really bad

>>7077020
Answer my question sea nigga

should I hold drawing tablet pen vertical or horizontal when on a screen tablet? I know conventional wisdom is vertical to let your hand weight control pressure, but thats with regular tablets that lay flat so is it different with a screen thats at an angle? Or am I overthinking it and should just draw more

>>7077114
For questions like that, I try to look up videos of famous artists working and experiment with what they do (e.g. documentaries with yoneyama mai for grip, angle, etc).

But of course, none of this is technically needed, everything really just comes down to what you're comfortable with and experience.

did some quick cloth studies before going back to normal draws

>>7077020
Thanks for the redline! That does look better, although my intention wasn't drawing her tripping, but standing and embarassed, it does fit really well. I was having trouble especially with the position of the legs and arm behind, so it's good help

>>7077114
Whichever way makes you draw more.

is it normal not to notice gradual improvement and instead just have sudden astronomical spikes of ability instead?

I'm posting these a few days early. I tried to take the advice I received last month to heart. The following images are compilations of every drawing I produced in February (up to this point) File A contains mostly sketches and lineart and file B contains more polished drawings.

>>7077208
See you next month.

>>7076764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5orI-eYOPys&list=PLMXbAPr21di8DjTKCE3EoS4KFtNZ-FDnP&index=15

Follow along with this video

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>>7075972
what set is this from?

>>7077208
The files are too big and the colors are posting strangely.

>>7077221
Apologies for the multiple post attempts. Hopefully I have it figured out now.

What's a good way to measure digitally? On traditional when doing studies, I would draw with the image in front of me on a screen, hold my pencil up to it for reference, and make a series of marks on the paper to measure out the length and width of everything and then go from there. However, I haven't figured out a way to measure on digital so everything I do digitally turns out inaccurate.

>>7077237
most digital programs have an integer or percent for the zoom tool. remember where it is at and its just like measuring normally. remember to always draw as zoomed out as possible. also what you can do is lower the opacity of your reference and pass it over your art here and there to see what you don't like about it.

Maybe this should go in the stupid questions thread


But how do you CONSTRUCT a body in perspective? Its one thing to draw a building (a box) in perspective. But without just xerox copying a reference how do you go about doing it?


Example in pic related, how the fuck do you even start with setting up how big the face will be etc

>>7077258
anon it's all just boxes and shapes... always has been...

>>7077261
>>7077258
Ignore the retard with his incorrect box. Just because you can draw the box doesnt mean you can draw the ribcage or the anatomy at that angle, which you need to learn from xeroxing from references anyway. Best thing to do is just to draw and study the body from as many angles as possible, as accurately as possible. While technically possible to do in reverse, simply using boxes wont actually help you while keeping gesture, weight and other things. Only thing it solves is the perspective and orientation

>>7077264
Is it worth setting up the scenes I want in perspective like that pick in Blender? By simply searching for similar perspective poses i waste 30, 50 mins or more and dont even find what I want

Gobo sketch

>>7077258
>>7077261
>>7077264
in my experience, boxes suck for bodies in perspective. I always found balls, beans, and ellipses to be much better. Sycra has that coil technique

But the thing that has taught me the most about figures in perspective is actually drawing figures in perspective. Joe Kubert recommended people learn foreshortening by drawing reclining figures at life drawing sessions. today, we can just get photos of olympic gymnasts or whatever.

>>7077077
Stop giving advice

>>7077258
Observation and practice. It's likely the artist has studied a similar pose from reference before creating this. >>7077264 "draw and study the body from as many angles as possible" is the correct advice. I would recommend using cross contour lines to help you visualize volume and depth if it's a particularly challenging form. There is no shame in trying to redraw another artists work to learn from them either.

>>7077258
Use a 3d model for reference. Literally everyone uses them now.

>>7077208
>>7077232
very cool use of line weight, especially in your sketches
your rendered/painted drawings would benefit from pushing your value range and contrast
the way you stylize faces is not very appealing imo, but disregard me if you are ok with them
but besides that I think it's great work

x8 resized

>>7076970
fellow BLAME! Enjoyer, nice work

Hey everybody!

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>>7077258
Use AI for reference. Literally everyone uses it now.

>>7076338
>>7077077
>krita, Paintstorm Studio
thanmks for the recs but shamefully Krita isn't available on phones
guess I'll give medibang a try

>>7076674
°°

>>7077129
Where'd you learn how to paint? These are awesome.

>>7075972
the biggest beg trap ever created was ugly references, if the ref doesnt look good, the drawing will never look good, dont use bad refs like this, there are plenty of fisheye stuff that looks pleasing

>>7076637
thanks for this! it gave me ideas

>Someone who started later is getting ahead of you

What's the absolute cheapest drawing tablet worth buying? Something that won't feel like a waste of money if I give up next week
>a pad of paper!!
Very funny, anon

>>7077374
The XP-Pen deco line is very good and accessible.

>>7077373
Why should I care what other people doing, anon?

>>7077365
This nigga is killing my vibe.

fwap

Crayon sketch I did in about 8 minutes or so.

I did this in about 8 minutes. Still trying to get the fundamentals down.

>>7077374
being in the same situation as you with being afraid of wasting money i just bought a lightly used xp-pen deco 1 v2 yesterday for like 30 bucks on ebay.

>>7077243
Thanks, anon.

Can you guys commission me an idea to draw? Just need some external pressure at the moment to actually finish something. No coom, but anything goes. Will reply later, got work.

>>7077419
Draw a girl tenderly embracing the viewer, in first person, offering him (us, the viewer) a nice hot cup of cocoa and a warm smile.

>>7077373
>thinks its a race
NGMI
>>7077385
you make Loomis look good.
>>7076911
finish the work.
>>7076616
best in entire thread. based.

>>7077426
>>thinks its a race
>>7077379
Its just that seeing someone get better than me faster and sooner makes me wonder what the fuck am I doing wrong.

>>7077374
I doubt it will feel like a waste of money, it's way more comfortable than a mouse, you will probably use it on and off through the years (if you quit but not quite) and Im probably forgetting some other reasons why it's a good inversion

>>7077430
i doubt you're doing much of anything wrong!! some people just progress faster at some things than other people do. just take things at your own speed and comfort and don't worry about how fast other people are learning.

>>7077425
He said no coom you freak

>>7077419
Draw a frog.

:,,,,,)

>>7077472
silly

20 minutes. Trying to get back to it after not drawing for a year

I've been seeing a lot of improvement ever since I've been referencing anime and applying construction to them. however, i've also been noticing that a lot of them do lack detail due to the fact that I rush a lot for some reason, nor do I plan my drawings correctly.

but my main question is will I just get good at drawing anime or referencing off of anime? I'm not looking for like "BE 0 TO KIM JUNG GI IN 100 DAYS" because that's impossible and also that's just not what I'm looking for.

but overall what I'm doing is planning. I have to make a habit of drawing everyday than I learn/study

>>7076829

>Based, yeah I've noticed too that your mental health and health in general plays a big part in drawing well and getting better at it!

Haha, yeah! Literal schizoid tier mental health issues, so it did play a huge role xD But hey, that's all behind now. If anyones interested, check Huberman x Chris Palmer interview. Complete remission thanks to his shite. :)

>Doing alright, picked up a course on unity so I can start putting my drawings in a game we'll see how that goes but it's a nice break from drawing all the time makes me happier to draw and to learn the unity thing.
Kinda the motivation I was looking for I think.

Very epic! Glad you are doing well :3

I saw a video online of someone drawing character turnarounds

they recommended for a 3/4 view to draw a sketch of the character's front view from the top, then rotate it 45 degrees or whatever to get a basic idea of where things go.

Does this actually help a good deal? I haven't drawn many full figures yet but I was thinking it might help with drawing heads in 3/4 perspective

daily drawings done. these take around 20-30 minutes each. as I get better and more confident with the human figure i imagine my speed will increase! but for now i'm just taking my time and making sure they look right.

So I tried drawing the actual figure after mannequinization. I chose the Great Gama doing Hindu pushups

Any tips? I think I messed up the proportions and got the torso angle off.

I still can’t paint

drawing a big titty snake wammen

>>7077537
those scales look like they take fucking ages to draw

2 minute warmup faces

>>7077538
yea, it did. im getting paid the big bucks and I love lamias, so its gonna be worth

>>7077531
i'd say one issue is that you're drawing the boxes for the torso too thin - and you've lost some of the curvature of the spine in your final drawing. it means that your drawing vs. the pose has less tension. that's what i've seen - your drawing is by no means bad, though!! you have the general shape and posture down well.

>>7077545
yeah now that you mention it looking at the gesture drawing the curve is not going up steeply enough, and yeah the boxes are a bit thin for that torso. Thanks!

>>7077551
ofc!! wishing you the best luck >:3

>>7077534
It does look ugly :)

>>7077077
Every study you post, there is no improvement and instead just further descent into madness.
You were laid out a path to figure drawing, yet you refuse listen to anyone and do anything, but pointless copies of beg books like an autismo you are.
>draw gestures and simpler figures to understand and memorize general proportions and landmarks of human body
>then focus on features and anatomy
>when you understand both, draw it all together
Instead you are in this middle ground, where you can capture neither proportions nor features. All proportions are fucked, because you don't have visual library and all features are symbol drawn, because you don't really study them. For last months you haven't posted a single drawing that looks remotely human. Maybe you should follow on your own advice and go back to KTD and learn to study and draw what you see.

>>7077077
Vilpuu said that you need to draw from ref. You do exactly the oposite. You are not a genius fucko

>>7077077
my grandparents are insanely orthodox muslims and even they are more in touch with reality than you. stop posting

>>7077077
>take your background layer, set it to funny mode like hard light and then put it on top and play with opacity. it will give the bug crazy texture on top of him
Yeah he could use some texture but not sure if I'll learn something when I don't do it myself you know?
I don't really understand rendering shapes yet so maybe I should do some greyscales first idk.
Thanks for the advice Pawell!
>>7077426
>best in entire thread. based.
Y-you too!
>thinks its a race
>NGMI
This. Persistence and habits are key.

>>7077077
>525
LMAO

>>7077264
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>>7077277
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>>7077327
thanks for the serious replies, perhaps I should browse here more then ASG

>>7077556
Do you like it better now, anon?

>>7075925
thoughts on this? made using a reference I made in gmod, but I really hate myself for using references and can't draw proportions properly

>>7077589
Just kidding because I thought that you were humble brag. I have never paint a picture in m entier life :)

>>7077591
it's looking really cool, i love the style :3 and there's nothing wrong with using references as long as you aren't tracing, since tracing doesn't really help you improve at all.

I'm struggling to get over this line where you can recognise the subject of my drawing to some degree but it's just off slightly and I don't know how to fix it to get it completely accurate to the picture

>>7077591
it looks pretty good. The camo looks time consuming to draw

The guy's left arm looks a little flat and blocky though. I think it would look a bit better if the crease of the inner elbow was a bit deeper.

>>7077589
looks good

>>7075976
I added cancer like this skirt..

>>7075972
Really weird for me, once again if anyone has any tips for a /beg/ when it comes to referencing and understanding the anatomy, please do share.

>>7077678
Wow, holy fuck am I retarded.

Got a cheap ass lamp off amazon, time to finally start the lighting chapter to KtD

>>7075972
i would love to see this one box-mannequined if anyone who's actually able to do it is up for it, my attempt was garbage and even when i tried to do it ontop of the ref i couldn't work the pelvis out at all

>>7077426
Loomis is bad?

Worth taking some drawing classes at a local community college? I have the money and a career already, so it'd just be for fun/study structure

>>7077734
i don't see why not :3 having a professional/teacher being able to critique what you make is super valuable!

>>7077724
Local retard who has a hate boner for Fun with Pencil and anything Loomis + Vilpuu. Why? Because he get filtered by them. Yep he can't make the funny chibi old man heads look good. LOL.

>>7077734
I got a certification in drawing at my local cc for fun (basically means you just took some core classes in a subject). Having deadlines and being forced to draw things outside your comfort zone (slightly angled anime girls) is super helpful.

>>7077742
Never heard of Vilpuu until i visited /ic/. How known is he?
I don't have anything against loomis. I tried drawing and sometimes it worked. It's just i prefer the way Stephen Bauman does.

>>7075925
some one help me with this and awkward poses in general

>>7077757
>Vilpuu
OG artist/teacher. Worked for Disney, Marvel Warner Bros. Feel the forms and all that jazz. Famous enough to have a wiki
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Vilppu
Give it 5 mins read

>>7077766
Holy shit didn't know he was that big.
Thought he was just some old professional that showcases their techniques not a staple

>>7077757

>>7077772
I saw that book at Barnes and Nobles once and stole it

>>7077768
The local stuborn retarded autist - Pawell is trying to learn from Vilpuu and failing. Vilpuu haters love posting these >>7076044 >>7077077 to discredit this teaching method.

new slop
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>>7075925
I know how to draw shortstack front, but in back, I don't how I will draw shortstack in back, any tips?

Trying to get back into the groove.

>>7077285
Literally every hack

>>7077627
Stodar?

If I have fun drawing does that mean I'm gmi?

>>7077861
No you must hate art with every fibre of your being to be gmi

>>7077873
*gulp* I was hoping you wouldn't say that

AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7077877
ANON your observation, why are you even thinking about face details before you have posture

Hello 4chan, how do i make this pixelart work? i feel stuck.

>>7077997
I want to make a tropical lizard wedding but im not sure how to make the rocks cool and prehistoric.
Im not sure if i should go foward with what i got now or go back with my previous rock surroundings design.

How do I approach painting puffy/wavey hair?
Starting with the darkest color and lighten as I go? or mid done and darken/lighten?

Hi, are there any 4chan or notable R18 (Eastern/mixed styles) discord servers around? Looked through the entire catalog and found nothing, I don't think it warrants its own thread so I'm asking here.
(My question is genuine and I'm not trying to stir unnecessary drama.)

sketc

>>7076221
Okay, this should look cleaner

>>7077857
what is stodar ?

>>7077857
ahh yes i have written it into name lol... i just name things like autist whatever comes to my mind.

What level of skill, and time put in should I have before posting here?

any feedback on this?

Been doing FWAP recently and i'm not feeling the form at all.
Any tips besides just doing more of it?
I'm not deep in yet but i'm just not feeling it at all

>>7078971 not sure if it was supposed to be a profile shot but I tried to improve it keeping the original style and both eyes visible. I'm not good with words but the original feels a bit squashed

>>7080249
nta but extremely based work anon, lovely correction while maintaining the original pose/vision

We're lucky to have people like you on this board